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Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This this he's Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training camp in Hawksnard, California.

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Speaker 1: Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broms, Rob Phillips, and Bill

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Speaker 1: Jones and welcome end to Talking Cowboys, our final show

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Speaker 1: from Oxnard, California. Rob Phillips Brian brought us a festive

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, I like that look. I love this look.

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Speaker 1: I love that on the eve of the Cowboys journey

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Speaker 1: to Hawaii. These are J C. Penny shirts. I believe

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Speaker 1: they are. Yes, go get you one of those whatever

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Speaker 1: Yanning got for us. Yeah, yeah, sponsors get you tho.

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Speaker 1: I bet Bill Jones jealous of us. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: great look. Micky got the tan going to you know,

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Speaker 1: like you're on your own dive shop. It's Mickey's Dive

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Speaker 1: Shots warmer this morning. Yeah, I don't need long sleeves.

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Speaker 1: Actually good for you. Well, it's you know, it's dive shot,

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Speaker 1: Mickey's dive shot. I'd tell Mickey's bar would probably be

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Speaker 1: even better. A little surfing going on, Mickey surfing conk

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Speaker 1: Chowder I like it ice cold beer. Maybe had maybe

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Speaker 1: have a w gn on. No, I've never surfed Mickey. No,

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Speaker 1: they'd harpooned me on the snarkle. I'll do that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. You guys got a day off on Friday.

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Speaker 1: You could try. I'll tell you a real quick little

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Speaker 1: storkling story about Hawaii Wi. Do you know size fourteen shoes?

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Speaker 1: So I'm so worried we're over this this coral bed.

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Speaker 1: It's like they tell me it's like a million years old,

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Speaker 1: one of those things. And I was so worried about

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Speaker 1: my flippers, like hitting the being too long a bottom

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Speaker 1: and hitting the coral, you know, breaking off pieces. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I was floating around. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: please don't touch the coral. Please don't touch the coral.

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Speaker 1: I was worried that my Finn was gonna knock it. Okay, right, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Snorkeling is the best. It is great. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I would dive, but I can snorkel. How about it? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's always it's sad leaving here every year because the

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Speaker 1: weather is so great, everybody's so hospitable to us. A

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Speaker 1: lot of good work done here, and knocks start a

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Speaker 1: lot of good heart talked about that yesterday. Yeah, selfish

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Speaker 1: say it was selfish about that, you know, I want

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Speaker 1: teams coming to me and for scrimmages whatever. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: I noticed that the intensity and practice. I thought the

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Speaker 1: assistant coaches did a good job of ramping it up,

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Speaker 1: like making sure these players didn't think, Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: over with, we're leaving. I thought these last two days

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Speaker 1: of practice were really really good in the and you

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Speaker 1: can see the assistant coaches were making an effort to like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're not letting up here. We still got work to do,

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Speaker 1: and and they were very vocal, I thought, trying to

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Speaker 1: inspire the guys. So yeah, and even even the little

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Speaker 1: by play in the afternoon practice between Richard and Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure that just happened organically, like

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Speaker 1: I think they had it in their mind, Okay, we

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Speaker 1: gotta jack everybody up. Yeah. I think it was really

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Speaker 1: funny on the the last compete period at the very end,

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Speaker 1: right where they you know, where it was down to

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Speaker 1: the three plays offit scored really like on the first

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Speaker 1: play and Mark Colombo yelled at the defense two extra

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Speaker 1: point two extra points, you know, and like all those

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Speaker 1: defensive coaches were all sitting there and Mark was like

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Speaker 1: two field goal, two field goal indio and he said

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Speaker 1: he was laughing. He was kind of high five and

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Speaker 1: the defense came back. So yeah, I thought when he

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Speaker 1: yelled at that they were going to go for a

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Speaker 1: two point No, he was, he was. He was rubbing it.

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Speaker 1: He was, he was rubbing it in. And by the way, uh,

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Speaker 1: the head coach said, had they scored that touchdown at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game on Saturday, they were going

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Speaker 1: would have really been disappointed in that decision. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: didn't play any of his players. Yeah, that's okay, fair enough,

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Speaker 1: it's preseason, that's right. It was. Brian always say to

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Speaker 1: all I know is I'm working on six of them.

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Speaker 1: So he kind of reiterated the deal about we've got

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Speaker 1: to sign a lot of guys and the market doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean anything to me. What means to me is getting

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Speaker 1: my guys signed as a team. And I think he

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Speaker 1: used the analogy of DeMarcus Ware. Yeah. I was going

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Speaker 1: thought about how he explained that to you, And what

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Speaker 1: was the translation the Jerry whisper on that there. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean he started it off with saying, I don't

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Speaker 1: have the responsibility of dealing with the market. I got

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Speaker 1: to realize I could let a DeMarcus ware out of

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Speaker 1: here because I don't have enough money because I paid

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Speaker 1: it to many others. There you go. And so that's

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Speaker 1: his analogy of I give it all to these guys,

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Speaker 1: then the other guys that I'm trying to sign ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna get done. And he didn't. He and he raised

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Speaker 1: the possibility of one of those other guys getting done

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on who that might be. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: the website, guys that are either restricted or unrestricted after

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Speaker 1: this season currently who are not in the quote unquote

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Speaker 1: he said throughout the offseason was there's no pecking order here.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of guys on this team.

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Speaker 1: We like if if you know, we're not waiting to

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Speaker 1: get one deal done to go get another done. I've

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Speaker 1: I've had I've had guys tell him me, who do

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Speaker 1: these contracts and stuff? You know, they said, listen, there

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Speaker 1: is no order. Rob, you made the exact point. There,

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Speaker 1: like the cap guys have been sitting here the whole

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Speaker 1: doors open for business now. Like Mickey would tell you, you

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Speaker 1: you got to be realistic with me here, don't you know,

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Speaker 1: don't live in fantasyland, you know, live in reality of

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Speaker 1: what like Jerry Jones is talking about, Jerry Jones does

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Speaker 1: not want to go through losing another DeMarcus ware because

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Speaker 1: he overpaid somebody else. That that is a that is

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Speaker 1: but overpay for other people's talent. That that's now in

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Speaker 1: the past. Now they're moving to Okay, let's make sure

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Speaker 1: still keep our team together without wrecking our salary cap

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Speaker 1: and us having to lose players. So that that's a

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Speaker 1: that where his base salary was right, it was a

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Speaker 1: little bit high for their for their blood, how rich

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Speaker 1: And I think it was that it was that philosophy,

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Speaker 1: I think the other part of it was that, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, He basically said, there's there's no leverage

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Speaker 1: leverage is he can lose paychecks, game checks and twenty

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Speaker 1: don't know if that they're playing chicken, but that's the

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Speaker 1: have a really good relationship with Zekiel Elle absolutely, So

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Speaker 1: what the agent's trying to get. And I guess at

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Speaker 1: of like where I mean not where DeMarcus Lawrence. That's

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Speaker 1: I think let's get this done. You and Rob have

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Speaker 1: that before that. In order to get this deal done,

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel and saying, listen, this is what I can do

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Speaker 1: for you. Can you help me here because I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to build and keep a team around you. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to give you one of the best top five offensive

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Speaker 1: to give you a quarterback that we feel like he's

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Speaker 1: on the rise. I'm trying to give you a wide

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Speaker 1: Football League as well. If you can help me a

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Speaker 1: little bit on this, you know, we can work together here.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think I think Zeke could be reasonable.

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Speaker 1: I think Zeke's a prideful guy though too. You know

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Speaker 1: he knows this where this team. I mean he's if

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Speaker 1: if Zeke was in camp and it was a Maury

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you a quarterback on the rise. I'm giving you,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, yeah, trying to keep players around

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Speaker 1: you so you're not going you're not getting beat up

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Speaker 1: and losing football games every week. Deadlines do make deals.

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence's deadline, to a certain extent was I should

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Speaker 1: But I think there's higher level of competition right now,

424
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: and now I think it's for one spot potentially. Potentially,

425
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: I've got Tavon Austin at five. It depends. It depends

426
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: on Noah Brown. Yeah, I think that they haven't They

427
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: haven't rushed him back, and he's ready when they get

428
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: back to the Star, he'll be ready to practice the

429
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: way out of see him running out here, and he's

430
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: finally standing with the guys going through the walkthrough, which

431
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: he hadn't been doing before he had a jersey on. Uh,

432
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: So I think he's getting closed. So I think all

433
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: that depends on what they think of him. So I

434
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: think there's depending on him or Tavon. There's one to

435
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: two spots open unless they go really long. But I

436
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: think the other two guys that we've been taught, actually

437
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: the three guys Reggie Davis. Uh. We were thinking it

438
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: was a three man race. Well it's a five man race,

439
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: right because they really like what Devin Smith did in

440
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: that preseason game. He should have had two touchdown passes

441
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: if Rush had thrown the ball the way he should

442
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: have because he had good protection on the deep one

443
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: and the fact that he missed him wide open across

444
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone, and then he might

445
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: White White rush. Yeah, sorry, Mike White. Yeah, and then

446
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: he missed Darius Jackson underneath. It's fourth down, right, So

447
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: the fear of throwing underneath on first, second, or third

448
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: down is you don't have a time out right, and

449
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: you might burn the clock. But on fourth down, if

450
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: he's open, and he's that wide open, then throw it underneath.

451
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw Troy Aikman dude in the game

452
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: to Jay Novochek and the ball came up like two

453
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: feet short of the goal line Cleveland, I believe it was,

454
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: and they lost the game. Yeah, and everybody's like, what's

455
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: Troy doing? Well, the guy was wide open underneath and

456
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: they came up and made a really good tackle. Bill

457
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: Belichick in uh in company. So I think those guys

458
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: are in the conversation right now. Brian, you said you

459
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: got Tavon at five. I thinking Noah's on. I'm thinking

460
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: Noah's Okay, Okay, I'm thinking Noah's on at four, And

461
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm just going I'm not That's not me, That's that's

462
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm telling you what I think they're gonna do. Yeah,

463
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: I think so it might be one spot. I mean

464
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: we've seen they've this team has kept seven receivers before,

465
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: but it's not easy to do well. So it's a

466
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: matter of who can return punts. Yeah, and you noticed

467
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: in the second half Cedric Wilson was back there returning punts,

468
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: and then yesterday Jordan Lewis was actually fielding a couple

469
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: and we really hadn't seen much of that. So I

470
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: think it's turning in their heads. Well, if we don't

471
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: have Reggie Davis or Tavon, somebody else has got to return,

472
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: somebody we trust catching them. Okay, Okay, let's let's play

473
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: this little game. Gosh, I know you're gonna hate this, Mickey,

474
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: I'll let you know. Okay, of all those guys, of

475
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: the five guys we talked about, who would you hate

476
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: to lose the most of the five? Yeah? Sure, of

477
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: the five of the five guys that Mickey put out there,

478
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: he's Mickey, and we were all thinking maybe it was

479
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: a two or three man race. It's now five man race.

480
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 1: Who would you feel the absolute worst about losing if

481
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: they had to put one of those guys out? John

482
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: By Johnson, I think it's too early day step question.

483
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's john v. Johnson. I think

484
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: he's got I think he's got the most too. Really,

485
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna go with it. I'll answer the question.

486
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: He's got the most natural to me, the most natural

487
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: physical ability out there. Like to me, I look at

488
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: a guy that's got a potential to maybe even be

489
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: a starter in this league just based off of ability.

490
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: Now he's got to be able to finish plays. But

491
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: I just they love the guys makeup. I love his

492
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: his pedigree, his dad played in the league. I don't

493
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: think it's too big for him. Even though he's had

494
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: some drops, it has been too big for him, don't

495
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: you think. I don't know if he doesn't, because he's

496
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: going with him and I appreciate his he's I don't

497
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: think he made a lot of plays too, and he

498
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: plays in the game. This happens in meetings all the time.

499
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: There will be one guy tremendously passionate about a player

500
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: and in potential, and then and then water and then no, no,

501
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: but that's what you do. That's what you do, and

502
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: and it makes and you know what you did the

503
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: right thing by not going off on him. But it

504
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: makes you think like, Okay, I've now I've got to

505
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: really dig in. I've got to really dig in why

506
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: I think this guy needs to be on this football dude,

507
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: because I would fight you. I would fight you thinking like, Okay,

508
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: what does what does Devin what does you know Devin

509
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: Smith look like to me? Or what does Cedric Wilson

510
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: look like to me? You know? Those are those are

511
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: the kinds of I'm thinking of. Okay, here here are

512
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: guys that I know, I know they have this talent.

513
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: And not to say that, not to say that John

514
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: Bay Johnson doesn't have everything you said, but I'm thinking like, Okay,

515
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: what have I seen? And now sending Mickey throws in there. Okay, guys,

516
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. What has he done when

517
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 1: we've thrown him onto the big stage? That? And then

518
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you have to think, Okay,

519
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: how about all those practices, Mickey? How about all you

520
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: know that? Now the arguments really start, and that's where

521
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: it's tough, because you've got six tags on that board

522
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: tilted that you're gonna gift to get rid of one

523
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: of those guys, and so you rank them and you're

524
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: thinking Okay, who who do you feel the absolute the

525
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: guy who they feel the absolute worst about losing? It's

526
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: going to make this team. That's how this one is

527
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna work. Because I don't know. I mean, you're looking

528
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: at diamonds in the rough, right, and now you've got

529
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: to ask yourself if I lose this guy, yeah, is

530
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: there another guy coming around next year? Right? Yeah? Or

531
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: is this guy so special he? I mean, or every

532
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: one of them besides Wilson and Devin Smith fell through

533
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: the draft this right? Can everybody be wrong? Now? Sometimes

534
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: they are right because I think they're wrong on Gifford

535
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: because I think you can pencil in him. He's gonna

536
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: make this team. Okay, he is going to make it.

537
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: He even injured. Jerry Jones mentioned him. Yeah, okay, but

538
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: he also mentioned John Vay Johnson. Okay, are you willing

539
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: to fight in that case? Are you willing to fight

540
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: for Chris Kevington? Are you stand up at the table

541
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: for Chris Kevington. I haven't seen enough for him to

542
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: say I would rather him than Gifford, But you've seen

543
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: enough of Gifford. I've seen enough of Gifford. Okay, he's

544
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: on this team. I think I agree with him on that,

545
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: and he made Mickey makes a good point like coaches

546
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: love consistency, and you can argue there's been other receivers

547
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: in this five we're talking about that have been more consistent. Yeah,

548
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: but it's also about upside. I'll give you a great

549
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: example too, if I could go ahead for Robin No, No,

550
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a combination of both. You gotta go

551
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: off of what your eyes have told you from day

552
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: one through fifteen or whatever many practices they've had out here.

553
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: But then do you have to balance with what do

554
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: we think this guy can be if we can just

555
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: get him to this point? I heard a coach one

556
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: time in a meeting say this about two players. Coach

557
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: said this, Julius Jones is just as good as Steven

558
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Jackson the running backs. Yeah, okay, that and that was

559
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: that was that was the argument. That Nay, that's like, Okay,

560
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: we don't need to pick Steven Jackson, right, if we

561
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: lose Steven Jackson, We're okay because we're gonna get Julius

562
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: Jones two thousand and four draft. That is the That

563
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: is an argument that that was happening in a war

564
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: room that Maurice cath On, the running backs coach, said

565
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: he said, at my evaluation, Julius Jones is better than

566
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: Steven Jackson. Everybody was trying to justify not losing Steven Jackson.

567
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: And when when when Parcels heard that, then everything swayed.

568
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: Now there's your okay, you you get you know, Julius

569
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Jones is a nice player. Stephen Jackson ended up with

570
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: sit you know, twelve thirteen, fourteen thousand yards rush. You

571
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: had a long career, yeah, exactly. So that's the argument

572
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: that you have. That's why when they ask, they say

573
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: who do you feel the worst about losing? Then somebody

574
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: will argue, well, this guy's just as good. So if

575
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: you lose John Vay Johnson, Mickey will tell you We'll

576
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: wait a minute. I think that Devin's I think that

577
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: Devin Smith will be just as good. I think that

578
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Jalen Guiton will be just as good. That's that's the

579
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: problem that you deal with when you're trying to cut

580
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: your team, especially at these spots. But what you have

581
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: to calculate is if I try to get him on

582
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: the practice squad, can I do it? And Jason talked

583
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: a little bit about it yesterday, Right, you got to

584
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: decide can I get him? And then if you lose him,

585
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: if then you say okay, all right, well fine, or

586
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: are you sitting there pulling your hair out because you

587
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: took the shot. That's the thing, if that's that's the

588
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: problem you run into is because you're sitting there thinking

589
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: if you if you're sick about losing the guy, then

590
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: but you can't keep them all. You can't keep them all.

591
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: Matt Matt Moore's the best example. What ten years ago

592
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: or so? Yeah, yeah, they get him on the practice

593
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: squad when they couldn't. And now the guy other teams

594
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: are watching, you'll take two, especially that last preseason game

595
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: which he I mean back then he had a great finale.

596
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: And okay, Dan, I'll ask it in a different way.

597
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Out of that group, who's the best that you've seen

598
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: perform out here? Who would be number one on your list?

599
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: In practice or in games? Both? Whole thing, whole package. Oh,

600
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I think we've seen more from John Vay, but the

601
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: He's two guys are coming on now because they're getting

602
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: more opportunities. No question. Well, I'm not sure anybody knew

603
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: Devin Smith was on this team during no, ta me, right,

604
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: I failed scouting. The only reason I knew it was

605
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: because I was told about his speed and that he

606
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: looks like he's running now the way he did coming

607
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. Uh. And remember I said Ohio State, right,

608
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, heaven second round pick. So if he's running

609
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 1: as well, he's got something. And we never got to

610
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: see Cedric Wilson last year. See right, This is this

611
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: is now a good point. This is to me, if

612
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: you ask me complete package of practicing games, this is

613
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: where I'll fight for Cedric Wilson. I don't argue with

614
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: you on that. This is where I'll fight for Cedric

615
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: Wilson because downside is he's wearing dark glasses because he's

616
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol. The only guy out in practice with

617
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: sunglasses on. But that's wear sidelines. Yeah, but I mean

618
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: on the field, I don't have a jersey. Yeah, so

619
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: um yeah. So you know he he's a again, it's

620
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: a different type of slot receiver, right, He's a little bigger,

621
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: but he's got speed and he seems to get open

622
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, and he's not afraid obviously to

623
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: go over the middle. Now, I don't know if that

624
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: changes after he got jacked up on that pass that

625
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been thrown. Uh, but you know yesterday we

626
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: have to we have to see, I mean, we have

627
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: to see. There's three more preseason games to go. Lance

628
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Lenora was all Frisco, right, yea or Valley Ranch wherever

629
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: he first started. Yeah, and then the lights came on

630
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: and no, he shrunk yeah, uh to the point where

631
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: they waived him injured and you know, and he reverts

632
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: back to the to the injured reserve list because he

633
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: cleared waivers. Is there another position that we're going to

634
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Speaker 1: be talking about that's similar to what we're doing with

635
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Speaker 1: wide receiver? Yeah, Defense, the defensive line. We talked about

636
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: linebacker too though, right or is that just clear cut?

637
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: I think I think that's over. You're calling that you're

638
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: you're waving. It depends how many they're gonna keep. Seven. Well,

639
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: they could six, So then you would have Covington and

640
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Speaker 1: and and and March. Those would be the three guys Covington, March,

641
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: and and and Gifford. And I got this feeling Gifford's

642
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: on this team. Mickey has a gut feeling get defensive

643
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: line is still fascinating to me because we were talking

644
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: about it just sitting out of practice today or yesterday.

645
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: There's guys that are showing up that you kind of

646
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: know aren't gonna make it because there's just not enough

647
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: room at the end. But like the second team defensive

648
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: line yesterday was all rookies. Yeah, it was Jelkes, uh,

649
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: why Walker and Joe Jackson. And that's not even counting

650
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill who was getting first team reps with Malik

651
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: taking a rest day. So I mean they have a

652
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: lot of decisions to make up front there. And and

653
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: don't go to sleep on Christian, Yeah, Christian Christian Christian Covington,

654
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: who's gotten some first team reps on the nickel right,

655
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: he did as a pass rusher, see this is where

656
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: and he did have I think four tackles in that

657
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: game by the way. Okay, another question for Mickey that

658
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna say it's too early, while it is too early, okay,

659
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Speaker 1: But if it's too early for okay, what position of

660
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: the of those of Okay, as we're looking at our team,

661
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: the linebackers, the defensive ends, and the wide receivers, which

662
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: one is going to have the most difficult cuts. It's

663
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: still the defensive line. Yeah, thank you for answering that question, Mickey,

664
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Speaker 1: I agree, do you because because it's sixteen guys in

665
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Speaker 1: a vast majority of them are good enough to make

666
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: an NFL team. So you're gonna you're the likelihood you

667
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: put defensive offensive line out there, they get claimed, right, Yeah,

668
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: especially offensive lineman. Yeah. So all of a sudden, now

669
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: you're looking at these guys, you're saying, Okay, if we

670
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: mess around here and keep an extra wide receiver, that

671
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: means we might have to put an extra line. Okay,

672
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: so let's do it this way. M Carrie Hyder I

673
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: talked to Rod Marnelly about him yesterday. He was really

674
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: excited about him, and in a way that I didn't

675
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: think he would be. That Joe Jackson. He's excited about

676
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Speaker 1: Joe jack and the and the and the head owner. Yeah,

677
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: keeps bringing his name, the owner, general manager. Yeah, that's

678
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: usually pretty good. Sime. Robert Quinn's in. Yeah. Then you

679
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: got Daniel Wise, Shakier Soto and Ricky Walker, who two

680
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: of those guys are kind of stepping out saying you

681
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: put Ricky Walker out on the street from Virginia Tech.

682
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna go back and look at their college scouting

683
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: report and say, man, maybe we were wrong about that,

684
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: but you look at the numbers right now and you're like,

685
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: how do you do it? Oh? No, I know, I

686
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: know that's give Will McClay in that group finished, Jalen

687
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: Jelks see talent, that's practice squad, so practiced. It makes

688
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence Armstrong makes it Daniel Ross be able to be careful.

689
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Ross has got one foot in the

690
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: parking lot much. Christian Covington. I think he's impressing. Yeah,

691
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, he got MALIEK. Collins, Charlton, Crawford, and Woods.

692
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: So that's a that's that's ten. It's really you could

693
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: you could really keep twelve. Yeah yeah, see I think

694
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: they keep ten. So you just named twelve out of

695
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: sixteen that are you think are good enough to make

696
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: this y yea yeah, yeah, that's the guy that you mean.

697
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: You gotta hope, but you're gonna just know this. You

698
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: put guys like Walker out there, he's gonna be gone

699
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: because people will go back. Though he played well enough

700
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: that San Francisco game, He's probably gonna play well against

701
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: the Rams and their backup offensive lineman. You know, he's

702
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: gonna show again, and then he's gonna get to play

703
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: the whole game against Tampa at the end of the

704
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: year or the end of the preseason, and then he'll

705
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: probably show up at that and it's gonna be well,

706
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: can we let him go? And it's like, no, we can't.

707
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: And then you know, now we have to figure out, Okay,

708
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: who else you gonna what veteran guy? I'll tell another

709
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: position to keep an eye on, is safety. I don't think.

710
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think that Cabon Frasier's

711
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: safe here. I don't think Cabon Frasier's safe. And who's

712
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: taking his spot? I think the young man from Texas

713
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: As Wilson. Yeah, absolutely. I think do they love Thompson.

714
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: They will. They rave about Thompson. Oh he's so smart,

715
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: he could do this. Thompson, Darren Thompson. They rave about him.

716
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: But I think that I think that if you talk

717
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: about a veteran that might be in trouble, you know,

718
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: maybe veterans are in trouble. At wide receiver Tavon Austin,

719
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: maybe he's in trouble. Maybe he is, maybe he's not.

720
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: Chris Covington, linebacker, maybe he's in trouble, maybe he's not. Well,

721
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: if you look at the defensive backs, I'll give you

722
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: the if you're including Thompson, yes, okay, as the givens, right, Thompson,

723
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: count him up, Oouzier, Woods, Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown, Byron Jones.

724
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: How we got already the five? You guys were supposed

725
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: to count one? I thought you were okay, Yeah, that's six,

726
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: six okay, okay, and then and then and then uh

727
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath seven, So that's seven. And now you got

728
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe three spots, Yeah, why not for Donovan Wilson, Mike

729
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: Jackson Senior? And then uh, good one alumba okay, and

730
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: I'll throw a lumba in there. So yeah, there's four

731
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: to fit into three. I'm not sure about um what

732
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: they think of C. J. Goodwin good special teams players? Yeah,

733
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: see they'll tell you that. And then, Nicky, you made

734
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: up a great point that if I was in a

735
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: draft room arguing, I would say, why do we have

736
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: all these special teams guys? We punt, We kicked the

737
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: ball out of the end zone. We punt to the sideline.

738
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: I did include Frazier in that. In that That's what

739
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: I said yesterday. How many specialty guys can you? Yeah? Yeah,

740
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean you're keeping one at wide receiver that hadn't

741
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: practiced the whole ye, right, if that's what you want

742
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: to call him. Man, that's pretty his primary roles. He's

743
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: been a blocker. He can catch an occasional pass out

744
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: for you. But yeah, I mean he's I'm not trying

745
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: to make Mickey's point, but I'm just saying he's not

746
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: there you are, Yeah, Okay, there's gonna be Do you

747
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be three guys on this roster that

748
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna go? What do you think? Or do you

749
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: think we got that thing covered with what we just did? Well?

750
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Speaker 1: I think the what's would be if Gifford makes it injured,

751
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Speaker 1: Govern's gonna make it injured. Uh. And and you know

752
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: at this point, if you have to shave, you're gonna go.

753
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's yeah, yeah, you're gonna go

754
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks and and and then um the offensive line

755
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: after eight. I don't see where nine and ten is eight.

756
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: You could, but you don't want, especially with Zach situation.

757
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: Is McGovern your eighth lineman, he's nine, He's nine. Okay.

758
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: I think you have to cover yourself with Sue Philo. Okay,

759
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: because Redmond Looney, Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, that's your eight.

760
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Speaker 1: Get five with the eight, with the threes eight and

761
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: McGovern is nine. Yeah, I think that's and then I'm

762
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: not sure you got ten. Who's the next guy. I

763
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: would rather keep an extra defensive lineman then I would

764
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: an extra offense. Yeah, maybe you can get away with that.

765
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: Those guys will go to the practice war because you've

766
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Speaker 1: got you mentioned Looney, and there's some flex there, so

767
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: maybe you can get away with going to one extra.

768
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: Rob just told me though, if I put offensive linemen

769
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Speaker 1: out there, they get claimed. We have two and a

770
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Speaker 1: half more weeks of practice. Yeah, it's fun. Somebody else

771
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get hurt. These things clear them up. They

772
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Speaker 1: absolutely do. All right, let's take our final break, we

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Speaker 1: Look I'm in Look at this the bottle. Yeah, it's

840
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: like a Yeah, it's like a wine bottle. I'm in

841
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: for that black reserve. We might have to try that, Micky,

842
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: get some of that police. Let's see what we can do,

843
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: all right. A couple other things from Jerry yesterday. Not

844
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: concerned about him Mari's injury, as you said, I mean

845
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: they think if he had a practice, he could practice.

846
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: Right now, he's getting closed. What they don't want to

847
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: do is send him out there and then he's got

848
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: to come back to him. Yeah. They want it totally

849
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: taken care of, healed, uh, and it's basically rest right now.

850
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: The other guys we mentioned that, Jerry. You mentioned a

851
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: couple that Jerry it has caught Jerry's eye, John Vay, Johnson,

852
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: Luke Gifford, Doran's Armstrong, Tristan Hill and Tony some guy

853
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: named Tony pot Tony Pollard. Keep those young guys coming, yeah,

854
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: keep the young guys. Yeah, give them rolling. Some draft

855
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: picks in there, some undrafted guys, and that's good. We

856
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: got a credit to how you know Chris Hall and

857
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: those guys post draft able to go out there and

858
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: and and round up the college free agents post draft

859
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: because they've got some kids that got shots making this

860
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: team right now? All right, I got some categories for you.

861
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I know. Look, you're right, two and a half weeks

862
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: of practice left, three preseason games. Yeah, but we're those

863
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: two come real fast. The last two come real fast.

864
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: But we segment this right. We're a Knox Snard right

865
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: now and we're about to not be so. But we

866
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: still got a week of training camp, actually a week

867
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: and a half, right, Rob, I'm with you on this game.

868
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead, what do you got I'll put my name

869
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: on it. Give me the best player you've seen on offense?

870
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Here a Knox narc for him? Oh wow, best player

871
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: on off Okay, skill guy, Robber or anybody, anybody, lineman whatever.

872
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: The quarterback, why, I just think he's had a really

873
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: good camp and he I like the way he's driving

874
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: the football when he wants to throw it down the seam.

875
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: His feet footwork is feetwork on footwork is really good,

876
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: and he's really getting his legs into the throw. And

877
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: that's what he's got to concentrate on consistently driving the football,

878
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: and you drive the football with your legs, not your arm.

879
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith. Yeah, I just feel like that. Tyren Smith.

880
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: If you know, if if the Good Lord allows him

881
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: to stay healthy the entire year, he's back to that level.

882
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm starting to You see the power, you see the mobility,

883
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: the agility, the just the nastiness in which he plays.

884
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They've tried to throw young guy, old guy.

885
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: He Robert Quinn is a quality rusher. He beat Robert

886
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Quinn up. Robert Quinn I think has the utmost respect

887
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: for him now going against him every day. But they've

888
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: thrown a lot at Tyron Smith and they've given him

889
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: some veteran days hopefully to kind of get him. Just

890
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: don't need him in week six to wake up and

891
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: feel miserable with a back, because he is he is

892
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: of the of like the top three type players. He's

893
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: either one or two for me, Right, these guys are

894
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna start having Tyron Smith flew. Yeah, I'm not the

895
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: next one in line. Oh, Tristan Tristan Hill said that.

896
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I interviewed Triston Hill and I said, I said, What's

897
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: what are you excited about. You know, it's a terrible question,

898
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: but what are you excited about the forty nine er game?

899
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: He says, I don't have to go against Tyron Smith anymore. Yeah.

900
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: That that that's that's what. That's how he thinks. I'm

901
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: with you on Tyro and I'll gallop honorable mention. Gallop

902
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: is but that's a very good get good break out

903
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: player of the year. So he kind of broke out

904
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: the second half last year. Yeah, but he's doing better.

905
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: It's not just everything's not just totally vertical now with

906
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: right there's stuff that you see inside and he's running

907
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: smooth route, catches the ball that every time. That ball

908
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: he caught in the back of the end zone yesterday,

909
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how he caught it because I thought

910
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: it was going to be intercepted, so he couldn't have

911
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: seen it into his hands. Jason Witten had one too

912
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: yet and yeah behind his back. Just Witten just threw

913
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: his right hand up in the air and it went

914
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: into his hand. That's I mean, but that's guys that

915
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: could catch the ball through that guy thinks. Actually, he's

916
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: been pretty good. He's been very good. He's I think

917
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people if they were out here with

918
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: us every single day, would be shocked at how well

919
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: he's practicing now. I think a lot of the evaluation

920
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: then will come down to can he block the way

921
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: he used to when he was younger. They ran a

922
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: couple of plays yesterday where he does enough now that

923
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: ball gets to the touchdown. The touchdown that they had

924
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: where they pulled uh they pulled uh, Suephilo and was

925
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: Pollard Pollard ran in untouched. Yeah, that's a cave down.

926
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: That's a cave from Looney, a cave from Collins, a

927
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: cave from witten Poe. They secure the edge, They get

928
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: the guys in the outside ball up inside, and he

929
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: and from your tight end. You're not looking for pancakes.

930
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: You're looking for a guy just to shield off up,

931
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: shield him off. You don't have to put somebody on

932
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: the ground and and you know, and that's one of

933
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: the things those young guys still I think they have

934
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: to improve. Jarwin and Schultz, for sure. Schultz got better

935
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: towards the end of show yere. Uh. Now they're both

936
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: banged up, but you need them back because if you

937
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: saw what they were doing, they started putting Looney out

938
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: there in too tight end because those guys they just

939
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: got I'm sure McIlroy's not a who's ever asked him

940
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: to block? And uh Marcus, Yeah, but let me tell you, Lucy,

941
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: he's not a block. Let me tell you what is

942
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: there is there a player that's grown more since OTAs

943
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: to where we are today. Think Cody McElroy has made

944
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: himself a legitimate practice squad player. He caught that pass

945
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: and ran. Yes, yeah, yeah, I think I ran. I

946
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: walked by Todd and very sarcastically said, yeah, that guy

947
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: reminds me of Rico. He's he's Rico two point zero.

948
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: He's and he's much better. He's much better, not even

949
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: in the same clock. I'll take Ricky Walker in that

950
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: category of the most improved gay. Yeah, that's on the

951
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: mail bag right now. Actually, who you get that guy?

952
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: They have him playing defensive end Ricky. Yes, they'll kick

953
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: him inside. Mary Nelly knows what I'm playing all over.

954
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're just Mary Nelly's gonna put these guys

955
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: in position to shine. He will the Rams game. You'll

956
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: see him play more of a natural position. So now

957
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: Ricky Walker is the flavor, not Daniel Wise they're both

958
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: been good. But but but I noticed the game. Well

959
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: the other day I noticed Daniel Wise more in the

960
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: off season than I did Ricky Walker and Walker, Yeah,

961
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: I didn't power Ricky Walker's guy. I started memorizing numbers

962
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: to do the Blue White, and I was like, I

963
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: don't need to worry about those two. I mean, he

964
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: had He's had three sacks in the last two days.

965
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: I know wouldn't be sacks. And then but who's he

966
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: going up? I don't care. He showed up in the

967
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: other games, going up against a bunch of guys that

968
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: aren't going to make the practice squad, so he better

969
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: do it in the games fair enough? All right? Uh defense,

970
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: best player you've seen defensively quickly, best player defensively that's

971
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: not quickly Xavier Woods, Xavier Woods, Xavier Woods or either him.

972
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: I was going go the corner, Cheeto. Cheeto has been

973
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: awfully good. Cheeto. I'll go Malik Collins. All those guys

974
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: have really good I don't I don't think that we

975
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: should have picked five. Yeah, yeah, I don't think you're

976
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: wrong about Malik College. Yeah, because you're I mean that one.

977
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: But I was thinking about, Okay, the dominant you've ever

978
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: seen knockdown ball? Yeah, they were, they were. The linemen

979
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: were grateful he wasn't practicing yesterday. Yeah, they they're like, oh,

980
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: day off, thank you. All right. Last one, biggest question

981
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: you've got as they continue camp in preseason, what are

982
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: you still uncertain about the most the kicker? Kicker? Kicker kicker,

983
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: and only because there's no well, I don't think there's

984
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: any alternatives out there. I think they're getting ready to

985
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: have a big workout. But yeah, and that's fine to

986
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: bring them in. But if those guys are out there

987
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: at this point, how good they can be? When the

988
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: Vikings had to use a fifth round, no question to

989
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: trade for one question, because they're still worried about Dan Bailey. Yeah,

990
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: and so if you got a trade for one on

991
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: another team, you would rather bring in a free agent? Right? Well,

992
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: Casey Redfern kicked yesterday. We'll see if Brett Mohurt kicks today.

993
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: Redford wins six of six finally, no, no, four of six?

994
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: Ye excuse me, h, Yeah, he's done. Okay, if we

995
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: had to cut the seventy five, he's gone. All right, Well,

996
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for joining us. Right, Oh,

997
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna increase to four when we get back to

998
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: the Star. Yeah, back on Monday, Monday. Yeah, we'll be

999
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: back home. They'll be all refreshed and ready to go,

1000
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: and we won't know what time zone we're on. Bill,

1001
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: we'll take over the pilot seat. Thank you guys so

1002
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: much for joining us out here. Thanks to Caden for

1003
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: getting us on the air every day, and William really

1004
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And uh enjoy the preseason game. Thanks for

1005
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: the Sandblaster out there too. By the way, we've loved

1006
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: the Sandblaster. We've loved everything. One more one more day.

1007
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: They kick you in the button, right, it's like, okay,

1008
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: it's fine, this with you. Don't even anymore now, it's

1009
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: all good. Drop an fbomb on and the shareh whoa, whoa.

1010
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: My mom told me I need not to do that anymore.

1011
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: By the way, it was fine. You didn't actually do

1012
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: the other three letters, still being scolded by his mama.

1013
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. Love you. We'll talk to

1014
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: him Monday on Talking Cowboys. The break is next. This

1015
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