WEBVTT - Coming in Hot

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcast. Something

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<v Speaker 1>new and something hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we're coming in hot, Jenna. Okay and a little delayed.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry late, sorry relate, We'll come in hot and let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you the responses. Okay, this is hot takes, sizzling,

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<v Speaker 2>this is hot takes. We asked you the question on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram if you had any hot takes for Glee and Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>we thought this would be one episode. Let me just

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<v Speaker 2>preface this by saying it will not just be one episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't even go through them all. No, to get

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<v Speaker 1>through these. Okay, we received hundreds of submissions from you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>from comments and Dan's and voice notes, So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>again for writing in like your questions for our Q

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<v Speaker 1>and a's. You guys rock. This is I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know where to begin. Kevin, I don't either,

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, right off the bat, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this idea and it was like we conjured it up

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<v Speaker 2>and I follow somebody on Twitter called Peter Twinkline, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to share I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 2>a hot take, but it's something I agree with, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and was saying, no research to back this up, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is a good start to a hot take, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because it can't really be founded in any sort of science,

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<v Speaker 2>but based on anecdotal data. What connects the TV shows

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<v Speaker 2>that have been most successful in moving Americans to the

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<v Speaker 2>left parentheses Glee, Family, Guy, the Wire is the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they're extremely politically incorrect but very clear in their

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<v Speaker 2>humanization of minorities. WHOA And I was like, well, yes, WHOA.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels correct. I hot take Glee was good for America.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot take America was careful what we say here?

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<v Speaker 2>Make America Glee again. Oh god, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>The merch.

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<v Speaker 1>The merch right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually make America Glee again. There's my hot take.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to just get start going through because let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many and I can't even explain to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So somebody said I didn't hate Blaineofski. It was cute

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Blaine get cuddled during homecoming. There I said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm trying not to judge hot takes because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the point of a hot take.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing, right, Like, I'm trying not to come

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<v Speaker 1>at people for their hot takes, but I also like

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<v Speaker 1>there are some that I agree with.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot take. My hot take is that Tina should have

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<v Speaker 2>kept her stutter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that is not that's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold take for me, ice cold, ice bath.

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<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't have been able to do any of the crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy things she did when she became crazy. So but

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, and I'm not judging you.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of hot takes, and I don't think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a hot take because I think it's a wide

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<v Speaker 2>held belief that Jenna was severely underappreciated on the show

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<v Speaker 2>and Tina deserved more solos.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've read that one a couple of times now

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt not getting into NYATA made complete sense to me,

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<v Speaker 1>since the first half the season three consistently sets up

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have the resume required for admission unless

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes class president early the musical, and he gets neither.

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<v Speaker 2>It made sense. It makes sense along the curtain line,

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<v Speaker 2>Clay should have stayed broken up after the breakup in

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<v Speaker 2>season four, and they should have not been confirmed back

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<v Speaker 2>together until the series finale. In the time, I'm jump

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<v Speaker 2>they are way too young to be engaged at the

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<v Speaker 2>start of season five, which obviously plays into why they

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<v Speaker 2>call off the engagement later on. I think they truly

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<v Speaker 2>needed lots of time apart to grow as their own people,

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<v Speaker 2>explore and find their way. I don't disagree. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of early young engagements going on in this show, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of babies, a lot of engagements, a lot of weddings.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, that's a small town thing. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>from a smaller town in Texas, and like so many

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<v Speaker 2>people got married right out of high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty of friends got married in their twenties divorced in

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<v Speaker 1>their forties. Yes, Hi, Don and Kevin, this is Michael

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<v Speaker 1>hot take the song don't Dream It's over as the

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<v Speaker 1>best that y'all have founded. I think that song is

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<v Speaker 1>just beautiful and doesn't get talked about enough for how

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<v Speaker 1>good it is. Thanks for hearing mine and my fellow

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<v Speaker 1>gleagu's opinions on the lovely and fantastic show you guys

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<v Speaker 1>start in. And lastly, thanks for bringing positivity to my

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<v Speaker 1>Mondays and Thursdays with this great podcast. Well that's so nice, cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I went back and listened to it, and I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really good right. I also agree you all sound

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<v Speaker 2>really great. Oh, hot take, season six is better than

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<v Speaker 2>season three.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a real one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, neither can confirm or deny. We're not there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a two parter from the same person, so

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<v Speaker 1>I and I want to read both. Glee's version of

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<v Speaker 1>Baby Got Back is truly a masterpiece. Wow. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm not judging you again, but I agree

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<v Speaker 1>luke warm Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this other one is

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<v Speaker 1>Tina is low key every theater kid that isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>star or the teacher director's favorite. She's still about not

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<v Speaker 1>getting any solos until she finally has a breaking point

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<v Speaker 1>as that theater kid. I totally relate justice for Tina. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't yes, illness in my bones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, and I like

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<v Speaker 2>that underrepresented. Yeah, you know that's hot take. Glee should

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<v Speaker 2>have ended at season three. I don't know how hot

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<v Speaker 2>that is. I think a lot of people have said that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't agree either, Given what we've experienced in

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<v Speaker 1>the last year and a half, Scream is one of,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the best you at on the show, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not trying to suck up. Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure sounds like you are I will say thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Though I agree from the same person.

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<v Speaker 2>Though Bohemian Rhapsty is one of the worst covers on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, Jonathan Groff is the most talented ever. But

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<v Speaker 2>every cover on the show is better than the original

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<v Speaker 2>except for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really really deep and dark and let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. Okay, here's my hottest Glee take. The show

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<v Speaker 1>isn't Rachel's success story. It's her villain origin story. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she's Ana Skywalker, and all we can do is watch

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<v Speaker 1>her own selfish decisions warp her into something powerful but unrecognizable.

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<v Speaker 1>At the beginning, Rachel was annoying and ambitious, but had

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<v Speaker 1>redeeming moments of kindness, compassion, and friendship which were genuine,

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<v Speaker 1>though occasionally misguided. That's oftened how self centered and blunt

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<v Speaker 1>she could be. By the time she got to Nyata,

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<v Speaker 1>her moral compass had started to point more towards what

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted than what was right, and by the time

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<v Speaker 1>she was casting Funny Girl, what Rachel wanted and the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do were treated like the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Rachel and the pilot would be thrilled by

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<v Speaker 1>what she choose and horrified by who she became to

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<v Speaker 1>get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, hot take ming mingg ming ming ming ming ming

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<v Speaker 2>ming ning. Love love that, love.

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<v Speaker 1>It, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Scared to type this, but as a coach myself, Rachel

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<v Speaker 2>was the right choice to have as the lead of

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<v Speaker 2>the group. Absolutely, Mercedes and Santana have just as good

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<v Speaker 2>as voices, But as a coach, it's Rachel you want

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<v Speaker 2>out there during those competitions. She has the IQ, the

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<v Speaker 2>right drive and perseverance that the other kids just didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not me saying others didn't deserve solos. That's

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<v Speaker 2>in caps. Please don't kill me. No, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I get it, get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we all get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the Hottestklee take. As cute as it may be,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes no sense that so many high schools ships

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<v Speaker 1>ended up together. In the long run, they should have

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<v Speaker 1>kept clean and Britanna endgame. Maybe tardy, but ever the

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<v Speaker 1>rest love like most young adults, or keep them single.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also an option. Yeah, yeah, it's not realistic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but who's to say where they are now?

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, they could have all fallen apart, totally, totally

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<v Speaker 2>my hot take, Rachel, Santana and Kurt is the best

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<v Speaker 2>friendship in the on the whole show. Their dynamic in

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<v Speaker 2>New York is hilarious, and I wish we had gotten

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<v Speaker 2>more of them as a trio. Rachel and Santana's feud

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<v Speaker 2>in season five was just a lazy excuse to pitch

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<v Speaker 2>two strong women against each other and live up to

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<v Speaker 2>some crazy rumors I do. I mean, I think we agree.

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<v Speaker 2>We agree with that. Yeah, with that, the three of

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<v Speaker 2>them together in New York, I think at some of

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<v Speaker 2>the best moments. I also think, though, the storyline that

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<v Speaker 2>we're still watching and continuing of them going at each

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<v Speaker 2>other Rachel and Santana, Yeah, sort of brings out the

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<v Speaker 2>best in both of them in a number of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm really enjoying that storyline because it feels it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel high school anymore. It feels really real and

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<v Speaker 2>like they're acting out of their mind. They're so good

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<v Speaker 2>at its so good, and I'm all about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's actually really good. I my hot take is

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<v Speaker 2>the feud. I think the feud is really good. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was really good for the show and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>talks about spin offs. I would have liked to see

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel and Santana spin off. WHOA, I realized I like

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<v Speaker 2>watching those two together.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who who doesn't. I totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just a spin off is a bold.

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<v Speaker 2>Statement, because during when it was happening, everyone, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like every week there was like, Oh, there

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<v Speaker 2>should be this spinoff or that spin off. Honestly, Rachel

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<v Speaker 2>and Santana and you are that's.

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<v Speaker 1>The spin off. That's the spin off. Okay, Blaine is Filipino. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot take is that Glee should have gotten Leya Salanga

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<v Speaker 1>to play his mom instead of Gina Gershan. Love her,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would have been perfect, and I know she

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<v Speaker 1>was willing. Now I feel like Darren try to get

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<v Speaker 1>Laid on the show, because I was hugely a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of growing up. Darren and I had talked about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that he had met her through the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I met her, and so I think there

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<v Speaker 1>was something about him campaigning to get her on, but

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't. She would have been a dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Love her. I met her through both of you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just so starstruck.

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<v Speaker 1>She's She's so cool, so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Stupid talented icon. Sorry Kevin, but Artie wasn't a good

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<v Speaker 2>guy in relationships. He just liked dating popular girls, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was willing to dump any of them for a

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<v Speaker 2>more popular one. Seriously, how could he be willing to

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<v Speaker 2>break up with Kitty for a quickie with missus H.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree. Artie was not great.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this before you know this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Artie was displaying early signs of in cell behavior

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<v Speaker 2>if that sort of what's going on now, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with a certain type of podcaster and all that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he'd be into that in high school, which I hate.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, Kevin, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want him to be. But I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>we look into the things he said and the way

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<v Speaker 2>he behaved, especially in relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's like fifteen different platforms in which these comments

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<v Speaker 1>came through, And I'm looking at the comments on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and someone said, I absolutely hate Jesse.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. No, I think he was an unlikable character.

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<v Speaker 1>And he came through broke up like finchall like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was all wrong. But like we loved

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<v Speaker 1>John Grop obviously so and Jesse was very funny, but

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<v Speaker 1>as a character and his intentions and his motives correct,

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<v Speaker 1>like we don't we don't love him.

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of the ones I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 2>to separate the person from the character where I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just John Graff is the opposite of Jesse. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just love John and I love watching John. So

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<v Speaker 2>if I was watching the show and didn't know John personally.

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<v Speaker 1>These comments are on Fia.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Kevin and Jenna. I'm Leah and here's my Glee

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<v Speaker 2>hot take. Artie and Kitty should have been endgame. They

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<v Speaker 2>were one of my favorite couples on the show, and

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<v Speaker 2>their relationship really brought out the best in Kitty. What

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<v Speaker 2>is your opinion on this? Also, in case you actually

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<v Speaker 2>see this, I have to say thank you for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Glee t really changed my life in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so sweet. I do agree that their relationship

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<v Speaker 2>brought out a very positive side of Kitty. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it should have been endgame.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, now, and you're talking the wrong audience here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. Listen and do judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's my hottest take. Most everything in Glee exists

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<v Speaker 1>only in the head of Sue Sylvester. In real life,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a low level teacher or a pee coach who

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<v Speaker 1>fantasizes about winning national level cheerleading competitions, slugging judges on stage,

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<v Speaker 1>replacing the principal, having a celebrity baby, and being the

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<v Speaker 1>vice president. The glee kids are all real probably have talent,

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<v Speaker 1>though Sue clearly loves Mercedes, Kurt, Blaine Rachel, imagining them

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<v Speaker 1>to fave fantasy characters. All the performances take place in

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<v Speaker 1>the classrooms, and all those elaborate sets we saw, like

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle set, the Toxic set, and Kurt written in

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<v Speaker 1>brick lights are just Sue fantasizing along with the kids performing.

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<v Speaker 1>All the shenanigans like Sue canceling the hotel rooms at

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<v Speaker 1>nationals are more for acting out in her head to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like she has power in a powerless world. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's why Santana, Becky and Sue are allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>say the outrage outrageous, hurtful things they say, because those tirades,

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<v Speaker 1>all in all, are Incu's head. I promise I just

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<v Speaker 1>now thought of this and haven't been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I feel like somebody has said that I love

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<v Speaker 2>it Wasn't that like a joke amongst I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that before, And like I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>like Ian joked about it or something like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>could be making that up, but I feel I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>that before. I or maybe it was like in Rachel's head,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was all in Rachela. I think I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>that one. Yeah, kind of brilliant. Okay, are you ready

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<v Speaker 2>for something controversial?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Glee when compared item by item to High School Musical.

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<v Speaker 2>With the musical the series one, what one might say

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<v Speaker 2>is the closest thing we have to Glee in the

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<v Speaker 2>modern age, will almost always fall short. I am talking

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<v Speaker 2>original songs. I'm talking representation both in front of and

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<v Speaker 2>behind the camera in the writer's room. The show's treatment

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<v Speaker 2>of bisexuals, The show's treatment of people of color, specifically Asians,

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<v Speaker 2>but really everyone. The show's ability to satirize theater kids

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<v Speaker 2>and not use the cool kids to boost up or

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<v Speaker 2>make relevant those theater kids. The show's ability to not

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<v Speaker 2>punch down the unhealthy teacher student relationships that are done

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<v Speaker 2>in a tasteful way in High School Musical. The musical

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<v Speaker 2>the series, the dance ability of the cast, both shows

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<v Speaker 2>led by your friend Zach Woodley. Item by item, everything

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<v Speaker 2>about High School Musical is better than Glee. But somehow

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<v Speaker 2>Glee is still the better show. It will be longer lasting,

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<v Speaker 2>it is already more iconic because because of when it

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<v Speaker 2>came out, it forever changed the fabric of America, slash

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Not even joking, Glee is a better show,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it defies the clear science. I have previously

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<v Speaker 2>started an essay about this very topic, but have not finished.

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<v Speaker 2>My outline has side by side comparisons from each show.

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<v Speaker 2>I fear it will be roughly fifteen pages. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to see that when it comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would also like to say, which you did?

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<v Speaker 2>Context matters. When Glee came out, it was a different world, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was ushering in all of those positive

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<v Speaker 2>changes we saw in High School Musical, the musical, the series.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's great, and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a bit different. I mean, one was on

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<v Speaker 2>Disney Plus when Disney Plus was like not doing punchy material.

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<v Speaker 2>Glee intentionally was a dark satire that that was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be irreverent and make offensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, definitely, if you had only read that screenplay

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<v Speaker 1>that Ian wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yes they were. They were very different tonally,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, we did do original music. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>whole conceit of the show. It's like, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree with some of that. What I think is,

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<v Speaker 2>like you see the through line between the two of them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And what's funny is I think maybe Glee success isn't

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<v Speaker 2>part because of the High School movie franchise, Yes, definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Glee and then High School Musical the musical.

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<v Speaker 2>Serious success is a part success because of Glee. There's

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<v Speaker 2>room for everybody, Yeah, there is, and there's just different

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<v Speaker 2>different styles totally, and I think that show is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it, did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hot take? I audition for the teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be a teacher on that show too.

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<v Speaker 1>I okay, here here's a hot take. I do not

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<v Speaker 1>stand for the hate of mister shit talk about it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not here to defend his actions like the week

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<v Speaker 1>of talking, making out with April, to Shelby, to Holly,

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<v Speaker 1>the wrapping, But he was an amazing teacher. You could

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<v Speaker 1>tell that mister Shoe was a stand up guy who

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<v Speaker 1>had the love for the arts and wanted students to

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<v Speaker 1>have a passion for it too. He brought kids from

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<v Speaker 1>all different walks of life and social clicks into one

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<v Speaker 1>glee club. If it wasn't for mister Shoe, Rachel would

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<v Speaker 1>never be friends with Quinn or Santana. Mercetades would have

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<v Speaker 1>never housed a pregnant Quinn. No, Tina and Mike together,

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<v Speaker 1>Finn and Kurt might not have been brothers. He loved

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<v Speaker 1>those students and gave them space to have a creative

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<v Speaker 1>outlet and a just to be their authentic selves. Glee

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just a club. It was a home to many

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<v Speaker 1>students who wanted to feel like they were loved, special,

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<v Speaker 1>and had some sense of talent. As Mercedes says, Glee

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<v Speaker 1>club will never end, mister Shoe, because you are the

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<v Speaker 1>Greek Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I look, I agree with that. I think that his

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<v Speaker 1>some of his actions were questionable. I think we also

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<v Speaker 1>did live in a different world where like teachers could

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<v Speaker 1>do some of these things without them being deemed inappropriate

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<v Speaker 1>or uncomfortable or Yeah, I don't know. I don't hate

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<v Speaker 1>mister Shoe. I've never hated mister Shoe that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't I think when we look back. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to we do have to condemn some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Was both things are true. He was great for all

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<v Speaker 2>of those kids for all of those reasons, but he

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<v Speaker 2>also has a long list of questionable things. Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a real hot take. The best duet in

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<v Speaker 2>Glee is American boy. Oh God clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, no good no, oh God, no, no, no

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<v Speaker 1>no no.

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<v Speaker 2>On a lighter note, I love that canonically Santana had

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<v Speaker 2>slept with both members of the Unholy Trinity. Yea, how

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<v Speaker 2>unholy did it it? Hot take? Quinn Fabray got one

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<v Speaker 2>of the worst trajectories of all the characters, with the

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<v Speaker 2>writers not knowing what direction to take uh to take

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<v Speaker 2>her in and lost sight of who she was. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we said that she was Quinn went through it

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<v Speaker 2>mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in a very short period of time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Glee was arguably one of the only shows that could

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<v Speaker 1>have had the main cast stay in high school for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years or sixties, take your pick, and it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been that crazy. The show was satirical and often

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<v Speaker 1>nature that they could have made jokes about being in

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<v Speaker 1>high school for suspiciously long times and it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been the fourth ball break, like a lot of other things,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I have to. I think we could have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten away with it. I will. I do think though,

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<v Speaker 2>like shows like Penn fifteen have shown like successful ways

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<v Speaker 2>to do that sort of thing. Yeah, even though it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little different. But I don't know if that's like

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan's style to do right. Yes, After Blaine joined New Directions,

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt became his shadow. Chris had just won a Golden

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<v Speaker 2>Globe at twenty one, and all they gave him were

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<v Speaker 2>recycled relationships to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hot, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin, I love you, But Tina deserved better than already.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people talk about Rachel's performances and then they snub

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<v Speaker 1>her and cry season theory like it's kind of one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite solos of hers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Rachel Barry never would leave Broadway for some reality

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<v Speaker 2>TV show. It was so out of character and I

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<v Speaker 2>hated it. And there are a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of Mercedes Jones deserved better, a lot of justice

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<v Speaker 1>from Mercedes Jones here in these commons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think that's a hot take. I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody agrees. No, you know, I think that's we also got.

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<v Speaker 2>Besides the d MS in the comments. We also got

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<v Speaker 2>some voice notes. I think we should listen to a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of these voice notes to hear the passion and

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<v Speaker 2>the hot take.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey guys, Mike Lee hot take is that at least

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<v Speaker 4>some of the band members in the choir room should

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<v Speaker 4>have had a storyline. There's so many times where it

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh my gosh, we're one member short, and

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<v Speaker 4>I like, you have this group of musicians in the

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<v Speaker 4>room with you all the time. So I would have

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<v Speaker 4>loved it if there was some crossover or even like

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<v Speaker 4>a relationship between someone in glee club and someone in

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<v Speaker 4>the band. I just wanted them to have lines. I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to know their names. I just feel like those

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<v Speaker 4>were a wasted opportunity that could have been characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed, Yeah, agreed, one hundred percent. Would have loved that.

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<v Speaker 2>A relationship between a band member and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>new directions so real. Yes, I love like during our

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<v Speaker 2>graduation we're just up there with the entire band. It

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<v Speaker 2>made me emotional, was like, oh, they're all graduating too,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know them. Get to know them.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Jenna and Kevin. My name is Annabel and from Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for being my childhood, young adulthood, and adulthood. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>my take on Glee is that everyone who witnessed the

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<v Speaker 5>what does the Fox Say? Performance deserves financial reparations for

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<v Speaker 5>their mental health appointments.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if anyone else will agree, but that

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<v Speaker 5>is my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Currently filing a class action suit.

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<v Speaker 6>But in all seriousness, I would also like to say

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<v Speaker 6>I think David Korowski's storyline is one of the most

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<v Speaker 6>underrated character growth arcs of all time in TV history,

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<v Speaker 6>and I will stand by that. I think his story

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<v Speaker 6>was so important and I didn't really seen anything else

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<v Speaker 6>like it on TV before, with the way his story

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<v Speaker 6>panned out, and I think it's so underrated. Ah, and

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<v Speaker 6>I think we should be talking about it. He's literally

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<v Speaker 6>my Sheila, Oh my Godlailor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, I agree, I agree with all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Listen to another one. I love

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<v Speaker 2>this Hi.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm a firmist believer that Tina and Already should

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<v Speaker 7>not have ended up together, and I feel like it

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<v Speaker 7>was a really lazy part on the writers. But I

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<v Speaker 7>think Tina and Mike and Kitty and Larti were like

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<v Speaker 7>the perfect Glee relationship, like perfect Frigglee because it was

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<v Speaker 7>goth and football player and then it was nerd and cheerleader.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that's.

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<v Speaker 7>Just like the point of Glee was to have like

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<v Speaker 7>the losers and the popular kids behind friends and form relationships,

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<v Speaker 7>and none of the in game relationships were that well,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think they are No. Number one. Like also,

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like it was a really big mischidcharacterization on

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<v Speaker 7>Tina's part because Tina didn't like whenever Tina and Already

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<v Speaker 7>were together, they just did not seem like they liked

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<v Speaker 7>each other or they did like each other, but I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they were more like friends.

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<v Speaker 7>And I also feel like Tina grew so much whenever

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<v Speaker 7>she was with Mike, and I feel like Mike grew

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<v Speaker 7>and then also I think Kitty and Already grew together.

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<v Speaker 7>But also I could be biased because I am the

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<v Speaker 7>biggest Tina Mike sand ever. Like, I just love them

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<v Speaker 7>so much, and I also really love Tina, and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>I like Artie but he's not my favorite. And this

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<v Speaker 7>is past one minute. I am so sorry, thank you, sobody.

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<v Speaker 3>I digs okay, jail, disagree jail my rebuttal to Tina

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<v Speaker 3>and Artie not really liking seeming like they don't really

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<v Speaker 3>like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's just the way they work. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way they they get. They get, they get

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<v Speaker 1>like what is the word I'm looking for? They work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know those couples that are just like toxic for

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<v Speaker 1>each other, but they like love each other, like so

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<v Speaker 1>bad they hate each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Think they were toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't think they're toxic. But we weren't

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<v Speaker 1>nice to each other always, but we were just like

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<v Speaker 1>so unfiltered. But when I think people were a little

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<v Speaker 1>jarred by that. Yeah, I mean that's how I am

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<v Speaker 1>in a real relationship. Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get one hundred percent of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I thought it was very mature.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I think I do understand, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is interesting. I haven't thought about this because you

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<v Speaker 2>and I were besties that maybe are acting romantic was

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<v Speaker 2>not really as strong as like the friendship part of

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<v Speaker 2>it because we were just like buds.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like non and they're like whatever, this is boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they're not sexually attracted to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, people do like tyke. Hey, that's funny. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>few of these hot take Tina and Mike deserved a

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<v Speaker 1>storyline in the breakup episode and should have an endgame.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like a lot of those, I do. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have loved to have seen more of Tina and Mike

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<v Speaker 2>when you're not just arguing about like sort of racist Asian.

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<v Speaker 1>Things totally totally or being called like Asian emberwan age.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like what is like obviously there's something beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>So like, what is that storyline? I felt like it

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<v Speaker 2>was always the punching bag?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that for sure? These are insane? You guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even sure. There's so many we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of these, there's so many hot take? Is

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<v Speaker 1>they mistreated Quinn? She deserved more solos, more screen time

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<v Speaker 1>and decent storylines. You know, she's been through, she was

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<v Speaker 1>put through a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of that Quinn, Quinn's character. Justice

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<v Speaker 2>for that hot take, Lots more Curt and Carrol scenes. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do one more voice note.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, Kevin and Jenna. By name's RAFFI. I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 8>fan Kevin. I saw you at the Kennedy Center. You

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<v Speaker 8>were incredible And my hottest Glee take is that at

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<v Speaker 8>the end of season three Rachel and Finn should have

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<v Speaker 8>gotten married as eighteen year olds. I know it sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's not unrealistic. People that age do get married.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think it would have been better for their

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<v Speaker 8>story if they went to New York together and Finn

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<v Speaker 8>had gotten into a school in New York for acting.

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<v Speaker 8>And if we're being honest, many more crazy things happened

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<v Speaker 8>in this show, so I don't think it would have

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<v Speaker 8>been out of line.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I sort of agree, because when so many more

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<v Speaker 2>couples get engaged later on, it sort of takes away

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<v Speaker 2>the impact. I feel like, because everyone's getting engaged, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just haven't get married.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to go for it, go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was excited about the wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if anyone was gonna get married, like I

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<v Speaker 2>get Yeah, they worked, yeah, I mean they're the best. However,

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<v Speaker 2>that train station scene was also we needed that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget that.

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<v Speaker 2>I never forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best things in the series.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going to do this again. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>new new series.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for writing in. We really appreciate it. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>on keep on thinking because we're going to do another one.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to ask for some more and we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>through some of the ones that we didn't select this time.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we didn't talk about yours and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody.

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