1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcast. Something 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: new and something hot. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 2: Oh we're coming in hot, Jenna. Okay and a little delayed. 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Sorry late, sorry relate, We'll come in hot and let 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: me tell you the responses. Okay, this is hot takes, sizzling, 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: this is hot takes. We asked you the question on 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Instagram if you had any hot takes for Glee and Lord, 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: we thought this would be one episode. Let me just 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: preface this by saying it will not just be one episode. 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: We can't even go through them all. No, to get 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: through these. Okay, we received hundreds of submissions from you guys, 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: from comments and Dan's and voice notes, So thank you 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: again for writing in like your questions for our Q 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: and a's. You guys rock. This is I don't even 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin. Kevin, I don't either, 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: I think. 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: I mean, right off the bat, we were talking about 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: this idea and it was like we conjured it up 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: and I follow somebody on Twitter called Peter Twinkline, and 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to share I don't know if this is 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: a hot take, but it's something I agree with, okay, 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: and was saying, no research to back this up, which 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: I think is a good start to a hot take, okay, 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: because it can't really be founded in any sort of science, 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: but based on anecdotal data. What connects the TV shows 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: that have been most successful in moving Americans to the 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: left parentheses Glee, Family, Guy, the Wire is the fact 30 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: that they're extremely politically incorrect but very clear in their 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: humanization of minorities. WHOA And I was like, well, yes, WHOA. 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: That feels correct. I hot take Glee was good for America. 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: Hot take America was careful what we say here? 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: Make America Glee again. Oh god, I'm so sorry. 35 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: The merch. 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: The merch right there. 37 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: Actually make America Glee again. There's my hot take. 38 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: We're going to just get start going through because let's go. 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: There's so many and I can't even explain to you. 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: So somebody said I didn't hate Blaineofski. It was cute 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: seeing Blaine get cuddled during homecoming. There I said it. 42 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: I I'm trying not to judge hot takes because that's 43 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: the point of a hot take. 44 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: That's the thing, right, Like, I'm trying not to come 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: at people for their hot takes, but I also like 46 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: there are some that I agree with. 47 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: Hot take. My hot take is that Tina should have 48 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: kept her stutter. 49 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Oh no, that is not that's a. 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: Cold take for me, ice cold, ice bath. 51 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: She wouldn't have been able to do any of the crazy, 52 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: crazy things she did when she became crazy. So but 53 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: I hear you, and I'm not judging you. 54 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: A lot of hot takes, and I don't think this 55 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: is a hot take because I think it's a wide 56 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: held belief that Jenna was severely underappreciated on the show 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: and Tina deserved more solos. 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've read that one a couple of times now 59 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: Kurt not getting into NYATA made complete sense to me, 62 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: since the first half the season three consistently sets up 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have the resume required for admission unless 64 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: he becomes class president early the musical, and he gets neither. 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: It made sense. It makes sense along the curtain line, 66 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: Clay should have stayed broken up after the breakup in 67 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: season four, and they should have not been confirmed back 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: together until the series finale. In the time, I'm jump 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: they are way too young to be engaged at the 70 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: start of season five, which obviously plays into why they 71 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: call off the engagement later on. I think they truly 72 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: needed lots of time apart to grow as their own people, 73 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: explore and find their way. I don't disagree. There's a 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: lot of early young engagements going on in this show, a. 75 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: Lot of babies, a lot of engagements, a lot of weddings. 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: But you know, that's a small town thing. Like I'm 77 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: from a smaller town in Texas, and like so many 78 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: people got married right out of high school. 79 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Plenty of friends got married in their twenties divorced in 80 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: their forties. Yes, Hi, Don and Kevin, this is Michael 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: hot take the song don't Dream It's over as the 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: best that y'all have founded. I think that song is 83 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: just beautiful and doesn't get talked about enough for how 84 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: good it is. Thanks for hearing mine and my fellow 85 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: gleagu's opinions on the lovely and fantastic show you guys 86 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: start in. And lastly, thanks for bringing positivity to my 87 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: Mondays and Thursdays with this great podcast. Well that's so nice, cute. 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: I went back and listened to it, and I agree, 89 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: it's really good right. I also agree you all sound 90 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: really great. Oh, hot take, season six is better than 91 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: season three. 92 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's a real one. 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, neither can confirm or deny. We're not there yet. 94 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: This is a two parter from the same person, so 95 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I and I want to read both. Glee's version of 96 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: Baby Got Back is truly a masterpiece. Wow. Okay, I 97 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not judging you again, but I agree 98 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: luke warm Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this other one is 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: Tina is low key every theater kid that isn't the 100 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: star or the teacher director's favorite. She's still about not 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: getting any solos until she finally has a breaking point 102 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: as that theater kid. I totally relate justice for Tina. Interesting, 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't yes, illness in my bones. 104 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, and I like 105 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: that underrepresented. Yeah, you know that's hot take. Glee should 106 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: have ended at season three. I don't know how hot 107 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: that is. I think a lot of people have said that. 108 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: I don't agree. 109 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't agree either, Given what we've experienced in 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: the last year and a half, Scream is one of, 111 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: if not the best you at on the show, Kevin, 112 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to suck up. Kevin. 113 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: Sure sounds like you are I will say thank you. 114 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Though I agree from the same person. 115 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: Though Bohemian Rhapsty is one of the worst covers on 116 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: the show, Jonathan Groff is the most talented ever. But 117 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: every cover on the show is better than the original 118 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: except for this one. 119 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: This is really really deep and dark and let's get 120 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: into it. Okay, here's my hottest Glee take. The show 121 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: isn't Rachel's success story. It's her villain origin story. Yes, 122 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: she's Ana Skywalker, and all we can do is watch 123 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: her own selfish decisions warp her into something powerful but unrecognizable. 124 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: At the beginning, Rachel was annoying and ambitious, but had 125 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: redeeming moments of kindness, compassion, and friendship which were genuine, 126 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: though occasionally misguided. That's oftened how self centered and blunt 127 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: she could be. By the time she got to Nyata, 128 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: her moral compass had started to point more towards what 129 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: she wanted than what was right, and by the time 130 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: she was casting Funny Girl, what Rachel wanted and the 131 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: right thing to do were treated like the same thing. 132 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: I think Rachel and the pilot would be thrilled by 133 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: what she choose and horrified by who she became to 134 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: get there. 135 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: Wow, hot take ming mingg ming ming ming ming ming 136 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: ming ning. Love love that, love. 137 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: It, I love that. 138 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 139 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. 140 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: Scared to type this, but as a coach myself, Rachel 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: was the right choice to have as the lead of 142 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: the group. Absolutely, Mercedes and Santana have just as good 143 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: as voices, But as a coach, it's Rachel you want 144 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: out there during those competitions. She has the IQ, the 145 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: right drive and perseverance that the other kids just didn't. 146 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: This is not me saying others didn't deserve solos. That's 147 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: in caps. Please don't kill me. No, I get it. 148 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: No, I get it, get it, I get it. 149 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all get it. 150 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Here's the Hottestklee take. As cute as it may be, 151 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: it makes no sense that so many high schools ships 152 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: ended up together. In the long run, they should have 153 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: kept clean and Britanna endgame. Maybe tardy, but ever the 154 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: rest love like most young adults, or keep them single. 155 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: That's also an option. Yeah, yeah, it's not realistic. Yeah, 156 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: but who's to say where they are now? 157 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: That's right, they could have all fallen apart, totally, totally 158 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: my hot take, Rachel, Santana and Kurt is the best 159 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: friendship in the on the whole show. Their dynamic in 160 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: New York is hilarious, and I wish we had gotten 161 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: more of them as a trio. Rachel and Santana's feud 162 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: in season five was just a lazy excuse to pitch 163 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: two strong women against each other and live up to 164 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: some crazy rumors I do. I mean, I think we agree. 165 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: We agree with that. Yeah, with that, the three of 166 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: them together in New York, I think at some of 167 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: the best moments. I also think, though, the storyline that 168 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: we're still watching and continuing of them going at each 169 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: other Rachel and Santana, Yeah, sort of brings out the 170 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: best in both of them in a number of ways. 171 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: And I'm really enjoying that storyline because it feels it 172 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: doesn't feel high school anymore. It feels really real and 173 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: like they're acting out of their mind. They're so good 174 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: at its so good, and I'm all about it. I 175 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: think it's actually really good. I my hot take is 176 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: the feud. I think the feud is really good. I 177 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: think it was really good for the show and everyone 178 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: talks about spin offs. I would have liked to see 179 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: Rachel and Santana spin off. WHOA, I realized I like 180 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: watching those two together. 181 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean, who who doesn't. I totally agree with you. 182 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: I just a spin off is a bold. 183 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: Statement, because during when it was happening, everyone, you know, 184 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: I felt like every week there was like, Oh, there 185 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: should be this spinoff or that spin off. Honestly, Rachel 186 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: and Santana and you are that's. 187 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: The spin off. That's the spin off. Okay, Blaine is Filipino. Obviously. 188 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: Hot take is that Glee should have gotten Leya Salanga 189 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: to play his mom instead of Gina Gershan. Love her, 190 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: but I would have been perfect, and I know she 191 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: was willing. Now I feel like Darren try to get 192 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: Laid on the show, because I was hugely a fan 193 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: of growing up. Darren and I had talked about this, 194 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: and I know that he had met her through the show, 195 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: and then I met her, and so I think there 196 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: was something about him campaigning to get her on, but 197 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: we didn't. She would have been a dream. 198 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: Love her. I met her through both of you, and 199 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: I was just so starstruck. 200 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: She's She's so cool, so nice. 201 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: Stupid talented icon. Sorry Kevin, but Artie wasn't a good 202 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: guy in relationships. He just liked dating popular girls, but 203 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: he was willing to dump any of them for a 204 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: more popular one. Seriously, how could he be willing to 205 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: break up with Kitty for a quickie with missus H. 206 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't disagree. Artie was not great. 207 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: We talked about this before you know this. 208 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Artie was displaying early signs of in cell behavior 209 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: if that sort of what's going on now, you know, 210 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: with a certain type of podcaster and all that. I 211 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: think he'd be into that in high school, which I hate. 212 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know, Kevin, I don't know. 213 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: I don't want him to be. But I mean, if 214 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 2: we look into the things he said and the way 215 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: he behaved, especially in relationships. 216 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: Okay, there's like fifteen different platforms in which these comments 217 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: came through, And I'm looking at the comments on Instagram 218 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: right now, and someone said, I absolutely hate Jesse. 219 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: I get it. No, I think he was an unlikable character. 220 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: And he came through broke up like finchall like it 221 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: was just it was all wrong. But like we loved 222 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: John Grop obviously so and Jesse was very funny, but 223 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: as a character and his intentions and his motives correct, 224 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: like we don't we don't love him. 225 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: I was one of the ones I haven't been able 226 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: to separate the person from the character where I'm like, oh, 227 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: it's just John Graff is the opposite of Jesse. But like, 228 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: I just love John and I love watching John. So 229 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: if I was watching the show and didn't know John personally. 230 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: These comments are on Fia. 231 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: Hi, Kevin and Jenna. I'm Leah and here's my Glee 232 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: hot take. Artie and Kitty should have been endgame. They 233 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: were one of my favorite couples on the show, and 234 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: their relationship really brought out the best in Kitty. What 235 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: is your opinion on this? Also, in case you actually 236 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: see this, I have to say thank you for everything. 237 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: Glee t really changed my life in so many ways. 238 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's so sweet. I do agree that their relationship 239 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: brought out a very positive side of Kitty. I don't 240 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: know if it should have been endgame. 241 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Though, now, and you're talking the wrong audience here. 242 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Listen and do judge. 243 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: Okay, here's my hottest take. Most everything in Glee exists 244 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: only in the head of Sue Sylvester. In real life, 245 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: she's a low level teacher or a pee coach who 246 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: fantasizes about winning national level cheerleading competitions, slugging judges on stage, 247 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: replacing the principal, having a celebrity baby, and being the 248 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: vice president. The glee kids are all real probably have talent, 249 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: though Sue clearly loves Mercedes, Kurt, Blaine Rachel, imagining them 250 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: to fave fantasy characters. All the performances take place in 251 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: the classrooms, and all those elaborate sets we saw, like 252 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: the jungle set, the Toxic set, and Kurt written in 253 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: brick lights are just Sue fantasizing along with the kids performing. 254 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: All the shenanigans like Sue canceling the hotel rooms at 255 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: nationals are more for acting out in her head to 256 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: feel like she has power in a powerless world. And 257 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: maybe that's why Santana, Becky and Sue are allowed to 258 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: say the outrage outrageous, hurtful things they say, because those tirades, 259 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: all in all, are Incu's head. I promise I just 260 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: now thought of this and haven't been thinking about this 261 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: for twenty years. 262 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: Wow, I feel like somebody has said that I love 263 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: it Wasn't that like a joke amongst I feel like 264 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: I've heard that before, And like I don't know if 265 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: like Ian joked about it or something like that. I 266 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: could be making that up, but I feel I've heard 267 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: that before. I or maybe it was like in Rachel's head, 268 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: like it was all in Rachela. I think I've heard 269 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, kind of brilliant. Okay, are you ready 270 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: for something controversial? 271 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 272 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Glee when compared item by item to High School Musical. 273 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: With the musical the series one, what one might say 274 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: is the closest thing we have to Glee in the 275 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: modern age, will almost always fall short. I am talking 276 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: original songs. I'm talking representation both in front of and 277 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: behind the camera in the writer's room. The show's treatment 278 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: of bisexuals, The show's treatment of people of color, specifically Asians, 279 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: but really everyone. The show's ability to satirize theater kids 280 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: and not use the cool kids to boost up or 281 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: make relevant those theater kids. The show's ability to not 282 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: punch down the unhealthy teacher student relationships that are done 283 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: in a tasteful way in High School Musical. The musical 284 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: the series, the dance ability of the cast, both shows 285 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: led by your friend Zach Woodley. Item by item, everything 286 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,479 Speaker 2: about High School Musical is better than Glee. But somehow 287 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: Glee is still the better show. It will be longer lasting, 288 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: it is already more iconic because because of when it 289 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: came out, it forever changed the fabric of America, slash 290 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: the world. Not even joking, Glee is a better show, 291 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: even though it defies the clear science. I have previously 292 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: started an essay about this very topic, but have not finished. 293 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: My outline has side by side comparisons from each show. 294 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: I fear it will be roughly fifteen pages. Wow. 295 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 296 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: I would like to see that when it comes out. 297 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: And I would also like to say, which you did? 298 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: Context matters. When Glee came out, it was a different world, yes, 299 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: and so it was ushering in all of those positive 300 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: changes we saw in High School Musical, the musical, the series. 301 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Hey, that's great, and it was. 302 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: It was a bit different. I mean, one was on 303 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 2: Disney Plus when Disney Plus was like not doing punchy material. 304 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: Glee intentionally was a dark satire that that was supposed 305 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: to be irreverent and make offensive. 306 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, definitely, if you had only read that screenplay 307 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: that Ian wrote. 308 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: You know, yes they were. They were very different tonally, 309 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: but yeah, we did do original music. That was the 310 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: whole conceit of the show. It's like, you know, but 311 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with some of that. What I think is, 312 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: like you see the through line between the two of them, right, 313 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: And what's funny is I think maybe Glee success isn't 314 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: part because of the High School movie franchise, Yes, definitely, 315 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: and then Glee and then High School Musical the musical. 316 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: Serious success is a part success because of Glee. There's 317 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: room for everybody, Yeah, there is, and there's just different 318 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: different styles totally, and I think that show is great. 319 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: I watched it, did you. 320 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, hot take? I audition for the teacher. 321 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a teacher on that show too. 322 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: I okay, here here's a hot take. I do not 323 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: stand for the hate of mister shit talk about it, Okay. 324 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm not here to defend his actions like the week 325 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: of talking, making out with April, to Shelby, to Holly, 326 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: the wrapping, But he was an amazing teacher. You could 327 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: tell that mister Shoe was a stand up guy who 328 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: had the love for the arts and wanted students to 329 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: have a passion for it too. He brought kids from 330 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: all different walks of life and social clicks into one 331 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: glee club. If it wasn't for mister Shoe, Rachel would 332 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: never be friends with Quinn or Santana. Mercetades would have 333 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: never housed a pregnant Quinn. No, Tina and Mike together, 334 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: Finn and Kurt might not have been brothers. He loved 335 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: those students and gave them space to have a creative 336 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: outlet and a just to be their authentic selves. Glee 337 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: wasn't just a club. It was a home to many 338 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: students who wanted to feel like they were loved, special, 339 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: and had some sense of talent. As Mercedes says, Glee 340 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: club will never end, mister Shoe, because you are the 341 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: Greek Club. 342 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 343 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: I look, I agree with that. I think that his 344 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: some of his actions were questionable. I think we also 345 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: did live in a different world where like teachers could 346 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: do some of these things without them being deemed inappropriate 347 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: or uncomfortable or Yeah, I don't know. I don't hate 348 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: mister Shoe. I've never hated mister Shoe that you know, 349 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: But I don't I think when we look back. We 350 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: have to we do have to condemn some of the 351 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: things that he did. 352 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 2: Was both things are true. He was great for all 353 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: of those kids for all of those reasons, but he 354 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: also has a long list of questionable things. Yes, yes, yes, 355 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: this is a real hot take. The best duet in 356 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: Glee is American boy. Oh God clean. 357 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Oh God, no good no, oh God, no, no, no 358 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: no no. 359 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: On a lighter note, I love that canonically Santana had 360 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: slept with both members of the Unholy Trinity. Yea, how 361 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: unholy did it it? Hot take? Quinn Fabray got one 362 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: of the worst trajectories of all the characters, with the 363 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: writers not knowing what direction to take uh to take 364 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: her in and lost sight of who she was. I 365 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: think we said that she was Quinn went through it 366 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: mm hmmm. 367 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean in a very short period of time. Yes, 368 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: Glee was arguably one of the only shows that could 369 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: have had the main cast stay in high school for 370 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: twenty years or sixties, take your pick, and it wouldn't 371 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: have been that crazy. The show was satirical and often 372 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: nature that they could have made jokes about being in 373 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: high school for suspiciously long times and it would have 374 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: been the fourth ball break, like a lot of other things, 375 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: I have to agree. 376 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: I agree, I have to. I think we could have 377 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: gotten away with it. I will. I do think though, 378 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: like shows like Penn fifteen have shown like successful ways 379 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 2: to do that sort of thing. Yeah, even though it's 380 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: a little different. But I don't know if that's like 381 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: Ryan's style to do right. Yes, After Blaine joined New Directions, 382 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: Kurt became his shadow. Chris had just won a Golden 383 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: Globe at twenty one, and all they gave him were 384 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 2: recycled relationships to him. 385 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: Oh hot, Oh. 386 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: Kevin, I love you, But Tina deserved better than already. 387 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: I don't agree. 388 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: Many people talk about Rachel's performances and then they snub 389 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: her and cry season theory like it's kind of one 390 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: of my favorite solos of hers. 391 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Rachel Barry never would leave Broadway for some reality 392 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: TV show. It was so out of character and I 393 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: hated it. And there are a. 394 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Lot of Mercedes Jones deserved better, a lot of justice 395 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: from Mercedes Jones here in these commons. 396 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's a hot take. I think 397 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: everybody agrees. No, you know, I think that's we also got. 398 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: Besides the d MS in the comments. We also got 399 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: some voice notes. I think we should listen to a 400 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: couple of these voice notes to hear the passion and 401 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: the hot take. 402 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: Hey guys, Mike Lee hot take is that at least 403 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: some of the band members in the choir room should 404 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: have had a storyline. There's so many times where it 405 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, we're one member short, and 406 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: I like, you have this group of musicians in the 407 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 4: room with you all the time. So I would have 408 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: loved it if there was some crossover or even like 409 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 4: a relationship between someone in glee club and someone in 410 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 4: the band. I just wanted them to have lines. I 411 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: wanted to know their names. I just feel like those 412 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: were a wasted opportunity that could have been characters. 413 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: Agreed, Yeah, agreed, one hundred percent. Would have loved that. 414 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: A relationship between a band member and one of the 415 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: new directions so real. Yes, I love like during our 416 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: graduation we're just up there with the entire band. It 417 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: made me emotional, was like, oh, they're all graduating too, 418 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: we don't know them. Get to know them. 419 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: Hi, Jenna and Kevin. My name is Annabel and from Australia. 420 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 5: Thank you for being my childhood, young adulthood, and adulthood. Now, 421 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 5: my take on Glee is that everyone who witnessed the 422 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 5: what does the Fox Say? Performance deserves financial reparations for 423 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 5: their mental health appointments. 424 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 425 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 5: I don't know if anyone else will agree, but that 426 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 5: is my opinion. 427 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: Currently filing a class action suit. 428 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 6: But in all seriousness, I would also like to say 429 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: I think David Korowski's storyline is one of the most 430 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 6: underrated character growth arcs of all time in TV history, 431 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 6: and I will stand by that. I think his story 432 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 6: was so important and I didn't really seen anything else 433 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 6: like it on TV before, with the way his story 434 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 6: panned out, and I think it's so underrated. Ah, and 435 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 6: I think we should be talking about it. He's literally 436 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 6: my Sheila, Oh my Godlailor. 437 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree, I agree with all that. 438 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Listen to another one. I love 439 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: this Hi. 440 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 7: So I'm a firmist believer that Tina and Already should 441 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 7: not have ended up together, and I feel like it 442 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 7: was a really lazy part on the writers. But I 443 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 7: think Tina and Mike and Kitty and Larti were like 444 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 7: the perfect Glee relationship, like perfect Frigglee because it was 445 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 7: goth and football player and then it was nerd and cheerleader. 446 00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's. 447 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 7: Just like the point of Glee was to have like 448 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 7: the losers and the popular kids behind friends and form relationships, 449 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 7: and none of the in game relationships were that well, 450 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 7: I don't think they are No. Number one. Like also, 451 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 7: I feel like it was a really big mischidcharacterization on 452 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 7: Tina's part because Tina didn't like whenever Tina and Already 453 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 7: were together, they just did not seem like they liked 454 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 7: each other or they did like each other, but I feel. 455 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: Like they were more like friends. 456 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 7: And I also feel like Tina grew so much whenever 457 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 7: she was with Mike, and I feel like Mike grew 458 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 7: and then also I think Kitty and Already grew together. 459 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 7: But also I could be biased because I am the 460 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 7: biggest Tina Mike sand ever. Like, I just love them 461 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 7: so much, and I also really love Tina, and I'm 462 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 7: I like Artie but he's not my favorite. And this 463 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 7: is past one minute. I am so sorry, thank you, sobody. 464 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: I digs okay, jail, disagree jail my rebuttal to Tina 465 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: and Artie not really liking seeming like they don't really 466 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 3: like each other. 467 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: I think that's just the way they work. I think 468 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: that's the way they they get. They get, they get 469 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: like what is the word I'm looking for? They work. 470 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: You know those couples that are just like toxic for 471 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: each other, but they like love each other, like so 472 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: bad they hate each other. 473 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: Think they were toxic. 474 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: No, no, I don't think they're toxic. But we weren't 475 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: nice to each other always, but we were just like 476 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: so unfiltered. But when I think people were a little 477 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: jarred by that. Yeah, I mean that's how I am 478 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: in a real relationship. Totally. 479 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna get one hundred percent of it. 480 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: I love it. I thought it was very mature. 481 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: You know what I think I do understand, which I 482 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: think is interesting. I haven't thought about this because you 483 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: and I were besties that maybe are acting romantic was 484 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: not really as strong as like the friendship part of 485 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: it because we were just like buds. 486 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: That was like non and they're like whatever, this is boring. 487 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like they're not sexually attracted to each other. 488 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: Oh, people do like tyke. Hey, that's funny. There's a 489 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: few of these hot take Tina and Mike deserved a 490 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: storyline in the breakup episode and should have an endgame. 491 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: There's like a lot of those, I do. I would 492 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: have loved to have seen more of Tina and Mike 493 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: when you're not just arguing about like sort of racist Asian. 494 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: Things totally totally or being called like Asian emberwan age. 495 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what is like obviously there's something beyond that, 496 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: So like, what is that storyline? I felt like it 497 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: was always the punching bag? 498 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: Was that for sure? These are insane? You guys, I'm 499 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: not even sure. There's so many we have to do 500 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: another episode of these, there's so many hot take? Is 501 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: they mistreated Quinn? She deserved more solos, more screen time 502 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: and decent storylines. You know, she's been through, she was 503 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: put through a lot. 504 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that Quinn, Quinn's character. Justice 505 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: for that hot take, Lots more Curt and Carrol scenes. Yeah, Okay, 506 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: let's do one more voice note. 507 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 8: Hi, Kevin and Jenna. By name's RAFFI. I'm a huge 508 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 8: fan Kevin. I saw you at the Kennedy Center. You 509 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 8: were incredible And my hottest Glee take is that at 510 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 8: the end of season three Rachel and Finn should have 511 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 8: gotten married as eighteen year olds. I know it sounds crazy, 512 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 8: but it's not unrealistic. People that age do get married. 513 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 8: And I think it would have been better for their 514 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 8: story if they went to New York together and Finn 515 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 8: had gotten into a school in New York for acting. 516 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 8: And if we're being honest, many more crazy things happened 517 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 8: in this show, so I don't think it would have 518 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 8: been out of line. 519 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: Now, I sort of agree, because when so many more 520 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: couples get engaged later on, it sort of takes away 521 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: the impact. I feel like, because everyone's getting engaged, like, yeah, 522 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: just haven't get married. 523 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: If you're going to go for it, go for it. 524 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I was excited about the wedding. 525 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: I mean, if anyone was gonna get married, like I 526 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: get Yeah, they worked, yeah, I mean they're the best. However, 527 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: that train station scene was also we needed that. 528 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. 529 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: I never forget that. 530 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: One of the best things in the series. 531 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to do this again. This is a 532 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: new new series. 533 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for writing in. We really appreciate it. Keep 534 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: on keep on thinking because we're going to do another one. 535 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: We're going to ask for some more and we'll go 536 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: through some of the ones that we didn't select this time. 537 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: So if we didn't talk about yours and thank you 538 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: to everybody. 539 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: Hot Takes and that's what you really missed. Thanks for listening, 540 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you 541 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review 542 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: and leave us five stars. 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