WEBVTT - Tee-K Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset.

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<v Speaker 2>When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I find my ball in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Brid egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Friday Friday fridag Egg

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Bride Egg.

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<v Speaker 2>Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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<v Speaker 2>FRIDAYGG podcast. UH. This week, our guest is t K Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a Chicago native and recent Ohio State graduate. TK

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<v Speaker 2>just earned status on the Latin American Tour and he

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<v Speaker 2>turned professional after a good amateur career that he won

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<v Speaker 2>a NCAA regional last year, two Illinois state amateur titles,

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<v Speaker 2>beaten up on hacks like me, and you know, his

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<v Speaker 2>senior year he had All American honor and Bowl Mentioned honors.

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<v Speaker 2>So t K, welcome on, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>For having me on. I'm excited to hop on here

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about some stuff and have a full little discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we're diverging. We've been on an architect tear

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<v Speaker 2>and we love kind of the whole going for the

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<v Speaker 2>professional career and the journey and glad to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>catch you on your early part of your journey to

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully the PGA Tour here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely going to be down in Latin America this

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<v Speaker 1>spring and fall playing on that tour and excited, excited

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<v Speaker 1>to just get it going and see what traveling is

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<v Speaker 1>all about, you know, meeting a ton of people and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a bunch of new places. I'm really looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be a it should be a fun time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So why don't you give our listeners a little

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<v Speaker 2>background into you how you got into golf and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of your career this far.

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<v Speaker 1>So my the biggest probably point in my background would

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<v Speaker 1>be that my mom she also played college golf. She

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<v Speaker 1>played at the University of Tulsa, and they actually won

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<v Speaker 1>a national championship in women's golf while she was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and got second two other years, and so she a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of her teammates went on to play on the

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<v Speaker 1>LPGA Tour and she played with the She just played

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<v Speaker 1>with ladies that play at other schools that are on

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<v Speaker 1>the tour now and in broadcasting, and so she has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of friends throughout the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and golf is just kind of something that's always always

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<v Speaker 1>been really big part of our family. My grandfather was

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<v Speaker 1>on the board for the WGA, and was a member

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<v Speaker 1>at Butler back in the day with all the old

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<v Speaker 1>Western Opens that were out there. And he was the

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<v Speaker 1>chairman for the nineteen ninety Senior Open at Madina. So

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<v Speaker 1>just just a big part of And it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Open in ninety, it was the US Open that

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<v Speaker 1>was when Hail Arwin won. But yeah, so golf has

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of been a big part of our family.

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<v Speaker 1>And just got introduced to the game at a very

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<v Speaker 1>young age and took the liking to it and slowly

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<v Speaker 1>started to quit every other sport as I got older,

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<v Speaker 1>to just focus more and more on golf because I

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<v Speaker 1>could just tell that was a sport I love the

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<v Speaker 1>most and that's what I like to do.

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<v Speaker 2>How long did it take you to beat mom on

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<v Speaker 2>the golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was probably around ten or eleven. She

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<v Speaker 1>once she had me and my brother, she didn't She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't quite keep her game up as much. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really practice as much anymore, and the less she practiced,

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<v Speaker 1>the less she wanted to play because it always would

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<v Speaker 1>annoy her or bother her, and that she couldn't play

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<v Speaker 1>as good as she used to be able to she's

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<v Speaker 1>the most competitive person I've ever known, and so she

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten back into it in the last few years

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<v Speaker 1>now that me and my brother I'm through college and

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<v Speaker 1>my brother's in college, so she has more time to

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<v Speaker 1>work on her game and she's definitely taking advantage of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a lot of fun with our family

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<v Speaker 1>for some grudge matches whenever we go on golf trips

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<v Speaker 1>or holidays back home, so it's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, she's getting back the game a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Took play some really good golf in sports. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a summer or two ago. We were up at Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Hills and she convinced being willed to give her one

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<v Speaker 1>too many shots and she ended up shooting the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four on us at Aaron Hills and her dad be

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<v Speaker 1>me and my brother by an absolute landslide. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was a tough loss. But yeah, we all have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun with it as a family.

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<v Speaker 2>Does your dad have game or is he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>dragging down the family handicap?

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<v Speaker 1>He has some game that he doesn't want to let on.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want really anybody to believe the game he has.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's he's always had a pretty smooth swing, hits

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<v Speaker 1>the ball knife. He was a really good rutter putter

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<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, but he seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>been struggling with the flastic a little bit the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. But yeah, no, he can. He could

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<v Speaker 1>play some good golf as well, just not I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say he'll. He would admit that it's not quite the

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<v Speaker 1>level of me and my brother, my mom, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>a He's a dark horse in the family for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably getting some good pops and can sneak up

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<v Speaker 2>on you. Yeah, absolutely, So who were some of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of your favorite golfers grown up? I always think this

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting with the younger guys. I was a big

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger guy. He was kind of huge when I was young.

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<v Speaker 2>But curious with you who was kind of some of

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<v Speaker 2>the big influences.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for me too, it was just far and

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<v Speaker 1>away Tiger, especially growing up out at Madina. One of

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<v Speaker 1>my earliest golf memories is going out to the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine PGA and I was only five years old, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was still walking around with my mom and I

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<v Speaker 1>just can faintly remember watching Tiger. And then in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, I was twelve. Then so I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better recollection of that, and that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>was really getting into golf, and Tiger just blew away

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<v Speaker 1>the field again there, so it was just like watching

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<v Speaker 1>my hero range of my eyes. I would always go

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<v Speaker 1>down to the Western Open at cog Hill and what

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<v Speaker 1>became to BMW to wash Tiger and he was just

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a mythical creature to me. And played all

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<v Speaker 1>the games, video games, Tiger Woods, video games growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that was kind of the heyday of my

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<v Speaker 1>childhood was in video games started to get really big

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<v Speaker 1>like that, so that also played into it. But then

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<v Speaker 1>also some some just other guys. I was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>Camillo fan around the two thousand and six PGA. They

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<v Speaker 1>got called him on Thursday and Friday, like all thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six holes that week. Just I was really into the

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Linberg clothing line back then, and he was rocking

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<v Speaker 1>JL and he was ripped and just hit it forever

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<v Speaker 1>and was kind of a cool guys when he did

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<v Speaker 1>the Spider Man thing on the greens. Looking back at

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<v Speaker 1>it now, it's kind of funny, but just when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a twelve year old kid walk around, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Camillo was on the coolest guys out there, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Early in your junior career where you just decked out

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<v Speaker 2>in jay Lindenburg. Were you that guy?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I had. I had one mock Jaylenburg sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I love to wear. If I look up a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of it now, it is probably the most brutal golf

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<v Speaker 1>shirp I've ever owned. And I regrettingly did have a

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<v Speaker 1>white jay lienbird belt with a big jail buckle that

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<v Speaker 1>has since long been retired. But those were those two

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<v Speaker 1>pieces definitely were two staples of my junior golf wardrobe,

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<v Speaker 1>probably around the age of twelve to thirteen, which they

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<v Speaker 1>they have not seen the light of day probably since then,

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<v Speaker 1>but back then they were definitely two of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>articles I had.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I keep wondering, like when the white belt's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna die, because like there's such strong resentment towards it

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<v Speaker 2>now with a certain aspect of the community golf community.

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<v Speaker 2>But I keep seeing more and more young kids wearing

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<v Speaker 2>white belts, Like what is what's going on? Where's the disconnect?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good question. I if you, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was fourteen or something, someone were to tell me that

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<v Speaker 1>white belts were cool, would probably looks them like they

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<v Speaker 1>were crazy, because I was convinced that white golf belts

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<v Speaker 1>like I would primarily only ever wear white golf belts,

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't think anything else looked good. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I look at an outfit and I'll put a black

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<v Speaker 1>belt on with it, and I'll think, you know, back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, I would have thought this, this looked weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think it's an age thing. I think kids,

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<v Speaker 1>once they get to a certain age, realize that all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I didn't. Probably you did. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you were ever in on them, but just

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<v Speaker 1>like this isn't this just doesn't look good anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got you know, guys on two were wearing

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<v Speaker 1>big white belts, you've got a four year old guy

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<v Speaker 1>at the club wearing a big, flashy white belt, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a real problem there because there's just

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<v Speaker 1>no excuse for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if I dig up the relics, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guilty. I had a white belt that would make

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<v Speaker 2>appearances for like two three years, but it's been long retired,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like yours. It's a you know, it's you

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<v Speaker 2>look back and just shake your head at some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that used to be in for golf. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you had a good high school career and

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<v Speaker 2>then you went to Ohio State. What other schools were

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<v Speaker 2>you looking at and why'd you go to Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at Ohio State, Illinois in Iowa. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are probably my big final three. I like the opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>that the other two schools offered me. Think they both

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<v Speaker 1>have awesome history with their golf programs and have really

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<v Speaker 1>good teams. Obviously, what Illinois has done in the last

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<v Speaker 1>five or six years has been remarkable. Coach Small has

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<v Speaker 1>done an unbelievable job there. But I just stuck out

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<v Speaker 1>to me about Ohio State was just the lure of

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<v Speaker 1>being an athlete at Ohio State and everything that came

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<v Speaker 1>along with it, and just the history of the athletic

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<v Speaker 1>program there and the history of the golf program as well,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Nicholas having played there, and John Cook, Joey Sindelar.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just the even recent guys like Ryan Armer, who

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<v Speaker 1>had a great Web dot Com Tour season last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and bo Hoag's another one who's getting out there now

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<v Speaker 1>and he's starting to play well. So just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of history and just it was the perfect distance away

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<v Speaker 1>from home for me, six hours driving and only an

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<v Speaker 1>hour flight if I needed to get back home from something.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of wanted to go out to Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State and Columbus and kind of have something that was

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<v Speaker 1>my own a little bit. I had no connections to

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<v Speaker 1>the school or anything like that, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good opportunity for me to step away from

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and home and kind of make a name for

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<v Speaker 1>myself somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think, I mean the climate's got a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit better too, so with kind of Jack and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Day calls Columbus home. Did would Jason Day spending

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<v Speaker 2>time around the practice facilities. I saw a shot that

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<v Speaker 2>Nike commercial out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did shoot that Nike commercial out there. And

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<v Speaker 1>he when I was in school at one point my

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<v Speaker 1>last year, he he came to check out the facility

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<v Speaker 1>to see if there was you know, if he had

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<v Speaker 1>any useful order if he wanted to practice out there

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And I believe he has gone out there

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<v Speaker 1>and practiced from time to time. He he never came

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<v Speaker 1>out and practiced with the team per se. He just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, used the facility when we weren't

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<v Speaker 1>out there just to kind of get away and find

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet spot to work on his game when he

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<v Speaker 1>was back home, because I knew he finds his time

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<v Speaker 1>back home really valuable to him and his family, so

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of kept it quiet when he was back

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<v Speaker 1>in Columbus. But every once in a while, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell he was just out there, that he'd

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<v Speaker 1>been around a little bit, which was kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was really cool to see that commercial shot

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<v Speaker 1>at our facility because I had no idea that it

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<v Speaker 1>was and all of a sudden, I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>video on Twitter one day and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's building. What's pretty familiar there, So that was cool

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<v Speaker 1>to see.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably good that he wasn't out there when you

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<v Speaker 2>guys were, because you know, if he was playing in

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<v Speaker 2>front of you as a single, you guys would just

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<v Speaker 2>be standing waiting for him to finish his pre shot routine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. We might get sick too, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>ailments he's catching it. It was good that he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>out there so we wouldn't get those too and get

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<v Speaker 1>the whole team sick.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he might have caught some stuff from you,

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, even being in the facility and being

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<v Speaker 2>you know subjected to you know, college germs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Yeah, that's a good point. It's a really

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<v Speaker 1>good points from the dorms.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, you're in college, you're playing all the

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<v Speaker 2>am stuff. You know what, what's some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll miss most about amateur golf as you now

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<v Speaker 2>head to the Latin American Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest thing to miss about amateur and

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<v Speaker 1>college golf is just the experiences at every tournament that.

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<v Speaker 3>We often got the also just the golf courses that

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<v Speaker 3>we got to play. Like our first tournament of the

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<v Speaker 3>year my senior season was the Carmel Cup at Pebble

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<v Speaker 3>Beach and we stayed in the lodge for four nights

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<v Speaker 3>and got to play at Pebble Beach four days in

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<v Speaker 3>a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I share a room which my best friend at school,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were right off the first piece at Pebble

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<v Speaker 1>Beach and we were just talking like, there's nothing else

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<v Speaker 1>can really top this experience. We're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to, you know, find the cooler buddy golf trips

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<v Speaker 1>than the one we're on right now. Playing at a

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<v Speaker 1>tournament a Pebble for the next four days. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>experiences and the unique tournaments like that that college golf

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<v Speaker 1>and amateur golf lends itself to is really I think

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<v Speaker 1>the best part about it. And just the camaraderie of

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<v Speaker 1>going to these differ amateur events like Sanny Hannah and

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<v Speaker 1>having the membership embrace it so much, and having events

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<v Speaker 1>every night and long drive contests and you know, socials

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<v Speaker 1>with members of the clubs that brought everybody together and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, there was serious during the tournament days,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was also fun at night, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>fun to just hang out and you know, enjoy, enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>each other and have some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Columbus is awesome golf city. Did you guys you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously have the Scarlet course out there that you primarily used,

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<v Speaker 2>But did you guys get to play like Mierfield, Seyota

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<v Speaker 2>Double Eagle out there also?

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<v Speaker 1>We did a little bit. We played Mirefield quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit in the fall my freshman year because we had

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<v Speaker 1>the Jack Nicholas Invitational out there. That was our home

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<v Speaker 1>event that we've hosted that fall, which I believe is

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<v Speaker 1>possibly going back to there in the next couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that for sure. But that that was

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<v Speaker 1>a word on the street a little bit. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we played out there a town that fall to get

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<v Speaker 1>ready for that event, and then we play out there

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<v Speaker 1>here and there every once in a while. There was

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<v Speaker 1>never really much need for us to play at a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of places around Columbus because Scarlett's such a good

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<v Speaker 1>test and such a good place to work under game.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also played out a little bit like if

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<v Speaker 1>high school the state championship was going on that or

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<v Speaker 1>if our course wasn't available during the web event, we

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<v Speaker 1>would play out there a little bit, which is that

0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.600
<v Speaker 1>course is unbelievable, just an awesome club too. We played

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times out at the golf Club in

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<v Speaker 1>New Albany, which is a pretty which is a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>unique spot, one of the very few Pete Dykes verses

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<v Speaker 1>that I enjoy playing. Mm hmm. And then I never played,

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<v Speaker 1>never played double legal. I've always heard great things about

0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that place, but never had the never had. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>our team played there once or twice that I was

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<v Speaker 1>either out of town or back home for the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>or something. But I've heard that's a pretty awesome track

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here pristine conditions, so you know, if you're if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going one through four mirror field of the golf Club,

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<v Speaker 2>Scioto and Scarlet course, what what how do you rank them?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Absolutely? I say question where I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>to put?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you playing the most times out of ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's I'm not a big ranker, but where are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to play the most times out of ten? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you split him up?

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<v Speaker 1>If I was going to play the most times out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten, I would play Sciota first, then I would

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<v Speaker 1>play Merefield next, and then I would play the Golf

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<v Speaker 1>Club and then Scarlett And I say it in those

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<v Speaker 1>order because Siota is the golf that I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>loving in Chicago. It's your classic just kind of push

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<v Speaker 1>you in the face, tough, just classic golf course, long,

0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>great green complexes, good bunkering. It's just a it's just

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<v Speaker 1>an awesome test. And it's just kind of a really

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<v Speaker 1>nice piece of role in property there in Upper Arlington.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just a really fun eating holes of

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<v Speaker 1>golf when you play out there. And then I would

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<v Speaker 1>say Deerfield next, because it's the turn the course. You

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<v Speaker 1>see the memorial. There's some awesome golf holes out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really pretty, it's in perfect shape all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's fun to play out there. And I say

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<v Speaker 1>the golf club third, because it's it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun to play out there when it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>unique experience. It's a I don't know if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>place that I'd want to play every single day, because

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<v Speaker 1>it would kind of lose its mystique to me if

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<v Speaker 1>I played out there every day, because it's a place

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<v Speaker 1>that you played maybe once or twice a year and

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<v Speaker 1>you really enjoy. And then I would just say Scarlet last,

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<v Speaker 1>just because I played there basically five days a week

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<v Speaker 1>for four years. So it's it's really hard. I still

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<v Speaker 1>think it's really hard, but I would much rather play

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<v Speaker 1>the other golf courses in Columbus than Scarlett anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting. I was out at Scarlett for that

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<v Speaker 2>WEB event this year, and it's I mean, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>great golf course to get to play every day, just

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<v Speaker 2>because it tests the crap out of your game. It's interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>like you look at that tournament and you're in year out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's one of the few places of Web

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com plays that's actually like a PGA Tour level

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<v Speaker 2>venue and you get a little bit different of a

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<v Speaker 2>leader board where you got you know, par is actually

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<v Speaker 2>valued as opposed to most of the spots that are

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<v Speaker 2>just pirty fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, and when that place it's firm, some of

0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:20.960
<v Speaker 1>those fairways you're just impossible to hit and the greens

0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 1>are severely undulated. It can just be a place that

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<v Speaker 1>can just give you headaches playing out there, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is it's fun to see that web ban go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and have to be a you know almost us

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 1>o finish like scoring you know, five unders a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good week for a guy, and you know you're good

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<v Speaker 1>chance that you're probably gonna win or finish pretty high

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<v Speaker 1>in the field if you shoot five six hunder.

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<v Speaker 2>So in terms that you touched on Chicago a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>while we're on the golf course subject, what are your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite spots to play in Chicago and maybe give somebody

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<v Speaker 2>and your under the radar gem that not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people know about. Obviously everybody knows about the big names, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my biggest under the radar gem has to be Nowood.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a course that if people were looking at overall

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<v Speaker 1>body of work in Chicago probably leave off the list

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<v Speaker 1>every time and definitely, someone from outside of Chicago would

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<v Speaker 1>probably have never heard of Nowood. I know a lot

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 1>of guys for the Western End last year probably had

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of Nowood and walked away at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the week being like, Wow, that's an awesome track.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't know how many times you've played

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but it's just a cool spot. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just got some unique holes. It's to start, how

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of loops around the clubhouse the first five

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:55.160
<v Speaker 1>holes is really cool and I've just always enjoyed every

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>round of golf I've played out there. But some of

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<v Speaker 1>my other favorites, I think Scopie pops off pretty high

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 1>right out there. My freshman year for next Westerns event.

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<v Speaker 1>Had never known it was a good course before then,

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and probably a little naive at that age, but still

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>I was. It's one of my favorites. Butlers up there

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>as well then another cool place to play. Just I

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<v Speaker 1>think Black Sheep is one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most fun experiences you can have playing golf anywhere, especially

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. You could play out there from from dawn

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<v Speaker 1>to desk every day and never get board. All the

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>different options out there, so those are some of my

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<v Speaker 1>some of my favorite courses in the area.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I grew up working at Noelwood, so I worked

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<v Speaker 2>backroom to junior golf and caddied. So I've walked that

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 2>golf course like probably and played at twenty five hundred

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 2>times or something absurd amount. It's so good. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>best is the membership knows how good it is and

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 2>they don't care what anybody else thinks. Yeah, yeah, they

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 2>could care lots about rankings. The you know, black Sheeps

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 2>have spot. That's I got to get out to this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard nothing but really good things that Dave Westler,

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>guy who did it. He's done some cool work with

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 2>renovations around Chicago area under the rad argument.

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<v Speaker 1>I played Black Sheep with him last summer. He was

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he played golf at Ohio State. Actually around the time

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 1>my mom put out of Tulsa, so he was on

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the IgG A board with my mom, so she kind

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<v Speaker 1>of set that up with him and I was able to.

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<v Speaker 1>I went out there and played with him and his son,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was a cool experience. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I'd ever played a course with the

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<v Speaker 1>golf with the guy who designed it, So I was

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>picking his brain and asking some questions here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was that was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a cool experience. I just did the same

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 2>thing down in Orlando last week with Dad Leyton, who's

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 2>now in charge of Arnold Palmer Design. It's just it's

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 2>interesting to hear them talk about, you know, the like

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 2>little challenges and you know what they were trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's cool. Definitely an experience that everybody should try

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>and get one time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where all the I feel like random stories

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<v Speaker 1>of I actually wanted to build this hole this way,

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>but we couldn't because of this. So this is where

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 1>this this great hole was my plan B for this

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>hole and it actually ends up being, you know, the

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>best hole on the course or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's interesting. It's I think that's one of

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 2>the cool things about architecture is you could give thirty

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.959
<v Speaker 2>architects the same piece of land and you'd get thirty

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 2>completely different golf courses. It's you know, it's really an

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 2>art underappreciated aspect of golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. I think Dave's working on a pretty big

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<v Speaker 1>project out in Oregon, I believe called Pacific Gales that's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to supposed to be done in the next few

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>years that he's been working at for a while. I

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 1>get the land like ten or so years ago, and

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>he's just been He's been involved with every single part

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>of the project. So it's something to look out for.

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<v Speaker 1>That should be a pretty cool design out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that Pacific Northwest has got to have some of

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<v Speaker 2>the best golf of any area. It's like so under

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the radar because I feel like the Pacific Northwest is

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 2>just there, you know, and nobody really pays attention to it.

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's like you've got Bandon, You've got you've got

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Wine Valley, You've got Gamble Sands, You've got Chambers up

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>in Washington. But then you've also got like, you know,

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Dan Hickson's just finishing up a reversible course that's supposed

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 2>to be really cool called Sylvie's Rant. I need to

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 2>spend like two weeks there, I think this summer and

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 2>just knock it out.

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>The uh which Hollow Pumpkin Ridge is also an unbelievable

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>golf course. We played the Nike event out there the

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>fall of my senior year, and I couldn't believe how

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>just cool and unique that golf course was. I mean

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>just in dense forests and nature. It is just this

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of beautifully carved out eighteen hole golf course and

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>there's some really cool Part Three's just a lot of

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.239
<v Speaker 1>unique holes. You never played the same hole twice, it was.

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>It was really a kind of unexpected gem for me

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that I always knew Pumpkin Ridge was nice and obviously

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the USN there with Tiger is a legendary, but I

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't expecting the course of that awesome. It was really cool.

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard of that too. They have that web

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 2>event out there and Vince India was saying he loved

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:10.479
<v Speaker 2>that place. It's it's just I just signed the bucket.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get out there. So you know, obviously you're

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of calling card Win. Was the NCAA regional up

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 2>at coler where you beat you know, great Field. I

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>mean you look down the name and names of that.

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, you had Toasty from Florida. You had Tom

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Deetree who's are a one on the Challenge Tour, top

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>three in his first start on the European Tour as

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 2>a full member. You know, Charlie Danielson and he had

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>four time All American tell us a little bit about

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>that win, and I remember I was playing a tournament

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>that same week and conditions were just brutal.

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was cold out there in color

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>which definitely helped the Midwest teams that were there a

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit because I know UCLA came out there in

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Florida came out there, and Florida State was out there too.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>They're coming from I mean May and Florida is like

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the middle of summer, so I know, but there was

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the conditions were tough. But I we played in snow

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks before at our home event in Columbus,

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>so the cold wasn't really bothering us too much last spring.

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, winning that event, I was just I was

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>just playing really well. It just had my mind pretty clear.

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I was it was either that it was going to

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>be my last event or I was going to play

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>good enough to play one more time for Ohio State

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and just didn't didn't let the situation get too big

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>or anything, and just plugged away and played some really

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>good golf, started petting really well, and the final round

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I started on the back nine and we were the

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>last team to go off for the last groups to

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>go off, because I was there's an individual with another teammate,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Will Grimmer, but yeah, it was I had no idea

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>what the other guy with the you know, Florida toast

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>he get shot on his front nine. I turned a

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>three under and I thought I was still going to

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>need to make a bunch of birdies even have a chance,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and made a couple more, and then I made a

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of bogies and asked my coach after coming off

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>my seventeenth hole what I needed to do, and I

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>just was asked him what I need to do to

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>make a tens of ways because I knew the low

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>guy from a non advancing team made it. And he's like,

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you're leading by one and you're in nscublaze by four

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>right now, And I was like, I just I had

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>no idea. I was like, what I thought, I was

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>still going to be a few behind, and he even wins.

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>So then I just kind of made a couple of

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>good swimmings on the last hole, made to get two cut,

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>and it just kind of happened. I never really had

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>thought about it that much. The whole week just plugged away,

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and you tried to keep playing good golf and was

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>fortunate enough to play good enough buff to win.

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>So you've you know, you won two State ams, you

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 2>won this, you won it was a lone star invitational too.

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Are you do you like to know kind of where

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>everybody's at, and you know, are you are you a

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>leaderboard watcher like or are you somebody that just kind

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>of likes to go about their business obviously you know,

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>winning is a tough thing to do and always curious.

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm definitely a leaderboard watcher. There's there's no way

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>around that. For me. I didn't know what the Florida

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>guy was that at the turn, but when I made

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the turn, I definitely looked and I tried as hard

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>as I could to figure out what he was at,

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>but there was no real leaderboards out there at the

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>State Am. I stare at him just seeing what holes

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>kids are through, you know, if they've got Bertie holes

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>coming up or whatever. When it's and I point out

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that I really want to do this in the final

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>round when it's the back nine, and I always talk

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>about with my coach John Perna that you know, you

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you have you have a strategy to get yourself in a

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>position to be able to contend and when. But when that,

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>when it's the back nine, the final round, whether it

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>be the forces, third round, everything else gets kind of

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>thrown out the window and it's a different game. You

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta you know, you're gonna have to make some different decisions.

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to kind of see what other guys

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>are doing, how low you're gonna have to go, how

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>many burgers you're gonna have to make, And I know

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>some people have a very different opinion on that, but

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that's had the system I've always went with and seemed to,

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of rise to the occasion when it's

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>crunch time like that. So it's a system I'm going

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to stick with moving forward, and it's just kind of

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the way I've always gone about doing it. So yeah,

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I definitely watched the leaderboards and like to like to

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what it is that I need to do,

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and if it puts a little bit more pressure on myself,

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>so be it. It's just what needs to get done to

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to win the event.

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine to get yourself into that position where you

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>have a shot, you have to be playing pretty well

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 2>and have kind of full control of the game. So

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, a place where you can kind of

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 2>push put the pedal to the metal a little bit more,

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and you know you're probably hitting really good golf shots already, right.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, And you know, you get to that point where

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you can even be in position to win an event,

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you have to be playing exceptional golf. So put in

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, put a little bit more pressure on

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>yourself and understand, you to make a couple of birdies,

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>isn't isn't really that big of a deal in the

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>grand scheme of the golf even playing that week to

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>get into that position. So you just got to kind

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of accept it and own up to it and just

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>make it happen.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 2>So outside outside yourself, you know who are who are

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>some guys and some names that you know golf fans

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 2>should be keeping an eye out that are either playing

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:24.919
<v Speaker 2>WEB or Latin America Canadian Tour. You know that could

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>really be great players at the next level, or are

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 2>still in college for that matter.

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, obviously, coming out of Illinois, Nick Hardy is I'm

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>just really good. He just killed everybody at the state

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>down this year. But I played some pretty good golf

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>to shoot what I did and that second place with

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>him by ten, So that was incredible. I may have

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>had great success at Illinois and other amateur events and

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>US Open stuff like that, so.

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I made a joke. I thought I thought I could

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>keep it in if if if I had made the

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 2>cut of the State am I'm pretty confident that I

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 2>would have kept it within forty shots of Hardy.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, he was. He was on a different level

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that week. That was just fun to be to be

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>a part of that because I think me and the

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>even me and the guy who finished in third place,

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>we broke the you know, previous scoring record to par

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 1>for state ams, but we still lost by ten and eleven.

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 2>It was that course set up was I mean, it

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>was just for you guys that hit it and just

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>vomb it, and it was just a wedge and putting

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 2>contest for you guys.

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And he's a he's a really good wedge

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>player and an exceptional cutter. So that was really no

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:59.720
<v Speaker 1>surprise when you think about it. But other guys Jonathan Garrick,

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>he went to u c l A, played the Canadian

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Tour this summer. He's a he's a guy known for

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>a long time. Our samways were old friends and he

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>grew up in California. But he's he's just a really

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>good player, hits it awesome as an awesome short game,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and he's he's definitely a guy to look out for.

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>He's played a couple of web events. I think he

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>played and played in Mexico and Maacoba.

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 2>And.

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 1>He's just a guy that I just think he's he's

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.879
<v Speaker 1>really good and you know when whenever it is that

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 1>he's going to break through and make it to the

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>top level, he's going to do it. And then I mean,

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the guy played with the college Will Grimmer, he's, you know,

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the fifty nine kid. I know he'll get a chuckle

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>out of that. But he played the US Open when

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he was sixteen at Pinehurst and had a pretty exceptional

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>freshman season, making regals as an individual last year and

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 1>just had some had some really good finishes and got

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>second at the Jones Cup last year too, which is

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome achievement. So he's he's always a kid that

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you got to keep your eye on. He knows his

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>game maybe better than anybody else I've ever been around.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Just hits it awesome, throws and darts with his hybrid

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>club and he's just he's gonna be really good for

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a really long time. Absolutely loves the game of golf

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and loves loves golf course architecture and everything else too.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>So he was a fun kid to have on the

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>team and definitely could I learned a lot from Even

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>though he was a freshman. I was a senior last year.

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>It was nice to have a kid on the team

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like that, and I could take his brain a little bit,

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think it made both of us better. M H.

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting the you know, guys that get it done

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 2>in different ways. People always talk about like their dream

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 2>for some I think having guys with different games like

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 2>to watch, you know, it's like you don't want all

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 2>the bombers in there, Like that's a good question. Who

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 2>would you if you were going to pay to watch

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 2>four guys play golf? I'm a PGA tour, which four

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 2>would be in that foursome?

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I would probably have to pay to watch. I want

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Steve Stricker in there because from what I've heard from everybody,

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>his wedge game is just absurd. I've seen him hit

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>one WEG shot in my life, and that was when

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I was randomly at Medna on one Monday and he

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>was playing an outing out there and he hit one

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>into the ninth hole of course one and I like

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of standing right there and it came a flat,

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>It skipped once and it was like three feet behind

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the hole and it was just like, it's a really

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.399
<v Speaker 1>hard wed shot at Madia. It hit that wed shot

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred times growing up, and just that he was,

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, just out there entertaining guys in a corporate

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>and just threw that little wegshot in there. And I

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>played with Daniel Chopra on a Monday qualifier a couple

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of years ago for the John Deere and he said

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 1>his wedge game is just ridiculous, Like he just hits

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>these little balls in there that don't really spin. They

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>just take one hop and stop at whatever yard she

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>wants them to. So I think that'd be cool to watch.

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Dustin Johnson just because he's kind of a freak,

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>even though playing with my little brothers like playing with

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Dustin Johnson, but he'd be a fun guy in there.

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And then I think you'd want to have someone who

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>could just put the absolute eyes out of the ball,

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe even like Lauren Roberts. He just has the silkiest

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>putting stroke. I watched him at the Champions Tour event

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>last year down here in Naples, and it was just

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>even washing. Him patted in like three footers. It's just

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>smoothest putting stroke you've ever seen. It'd be fun to

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>watch a guy like that just poured in from all

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 1>angles all day.

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:08.720
<v Speaker 2>You got, you got one more spot is a big cat.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's uh no, it might be. Oh man, now

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pickle. I would just all to force him,

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>might have to be filled, just so you get the

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>betting angle in there, just so you get to just

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>so you get to watch the money game unlined. And

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 1>having Lauren robertson there too, just chopping some bombs for

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>some big cash would be a pretty pretty fun spectacle

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>to watch.

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like Lauren Roberts would negotiate getting some

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>pops and then he would just you know, drain everything

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>all day. He'd probably fill his teammate, you know the

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>old guys. I mean, I guess Strickers old too. You know.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I like that you got you got a very interesting

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 2>group of personalities in there.

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I think that would if we wanted to

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 1>like have a professional golf money game on ESPN Under

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the Lights. I think your first foursome of DJ Long,

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Robert Stricker and Phil is definitely a head turner. I

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>think I'd get the viewers in for sure.

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know, that's the thing that bugs me is like,

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, they talk about these like you know, made

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 2>for TV things, and they always go for like, you know,

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 2>the big four names, Like, but if you got some

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>different guys with the personality contrast to their games, Like,

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why they're you know, they always want

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to do these made for TV things with just four guys.

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you do like four foursome So there's like

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of golf being played.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they want to. They want to do like

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>an under the Light skins game thing. It's got to

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>be like three or four groups, you know, And that

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>way you could at least have you could have the

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.799
<v Speaker 1>whole field on two holes maybe, but it would be

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>more than just four guys, because then if you got

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>two the guys that are squeezing that you know, made

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 1>for TV event in between a couple other events and

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>aren't that into it or aren't that aren't playing that great,

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>then it's just like it's not even that fun to watch.

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. You know, if they, you know, ever

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 2>put me in charge of something like that, that's what

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm changing. So you know, down in Florida,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>what's it like? Have you gotten to know a lot

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>of the mini tour guys down there? And like, do

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 2>you guys you get regular games down there yet?

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>I've played in a few. I haven't. I moved down

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>just before New Year's uh so I was down a

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks before I left for Columbia and I've

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>only been back two and a half days now. But yeah,

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I've met a few guys. I've gotten in a couple

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>of games and some local courses down here. I went

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and played in a minor league Golf Tour event over

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>by Jupiter before I left for Columbia, just to get

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>some competiti of reps. And that's not some major tagon

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 1>lingo now, but it's all about the reps. But yeah,

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>just I've got some guys at the club I joined too,

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna try to play in a few games

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>like that and so many tour events. But kind of

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.439
<v Speaker 1>that's a nice thing about having full status down there.

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Now I can set up my schedule so when I'm

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>back home, it's more just getting prepared to try to

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>play as play as good as I can when I

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>head down to Latin America. So you know, if I

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 1>play well enough down there, it'll open some more doors

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>down the road and I'll be able to play in

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>some other events and possibly some web dot Com tour stuff.

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So kind of shifted my focus a little bit from

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:50.479
<v Speaker 1>playing and a bunch of the games and mini tour

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff to just kind of use my time down here

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>to get prepared to go play as good as I

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>can on the Latin American Tour.

0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 2>That's smart. So you've finished eleven last week in Bogata,

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 2>so you got full status. You know what, uh what

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 2>country are you most? I mean you're going to be

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>all over Central and South America? Like what are what

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 2>are some of the sites you're most excited to go see?

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Term that I'm really looking forward to. I know that

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>my friends that played on the tour last year said

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>it was awesome. Is the Dominican Republic open at Teeth

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in the Dog, which is much to my chagrin at

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Pete Die Golf Course, but I've heard it's beautiful and

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 1>it's on the ocean, and it's in the Dominican Republic,

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>So put those a couple of things together, you really

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>can't go wrong. So that'll be a fun one. And

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>then some of the some of the more interesting countries,

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's an event in Nicaragua. My cousin out in

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>San Diego is a huge surfer and he's already expressed

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that he wants to come caddy for me and in

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that event because it's twenty minutes away from one of

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>his favorite surf breaks in the world. So I might

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 1>have a surfer slash caddy down there for that event

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that week. And I think there's just some really cool

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I've heard Buenos Aires is just an incredible city, so

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to checking that out. And that's the

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>second event of the season. And yeah, and Antigua is

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>another place that I've heard is pretty awesome. And then

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 1>probably the last one that's gonna be cool to check

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>out is Ecuador. Playing golf right in the equator is

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:40.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be kind of crazy. That's it ten or

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>so thousand feet, which is even higher than bo Guita was,

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 1>so the ball goes even farther there and it's right

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>in the capital city of Quito, which is right on

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 1>the equator. So that'll be just just a unique experience

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that you can honestly really only find on the Latin

0:45:57.880 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 1>American Tour, which is going to be I have never

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.479
<v Speaker 1>traveled out of the country just because I've always played

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>golf tournaments kind of during breaks, and I've always geared

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>all my travel so much towards golf. It would be

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>cool to almost study abroad and be able to play

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>golf at the same time. Like I kind of tell

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 1>people who aren't you don't know too much about golf

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>that I'm almost going down to Latin America's like going

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to grad school for my golf degree, just studying abroad

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 1>and getting more experience and playing some events. So yeah,

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm really looking forward to it. It should be a

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>cool time traveling around down there.

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is cool. I mean I spent like ten

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:41.720
<v Speaker 2>days down in Argentina last year right before I started

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 2>this thing, and it's cool. Man. I got to play

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the Jockey Club down there, which is like a Mackenzie course.

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Really cool. I mean, it's what a great experience to

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 2>get to, you know, travel around down there, learn, you know,

0:46:56.520 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>learn how to be a pro in some pretty cool spots.

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 2>How do you go about figuring out distances that you're

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>hitting the ball when you change altitudes. I've always wondered that.

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a hot topic when we were down

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 1>there or Bogata. Everyone was trying to figure that out. Ogata.

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Was it about eighty seven hundred feet or so? Was

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the course? Was that so it was about twelve to

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>thirteen percent. So we just kind of converted basic yardages

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of you know what two hundred yards was at that

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>elevation and so down So we just we just kind

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of did some old school math like that, me and

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>my dad on the bag. And it was a good

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>thing my dad was on the bag because math is

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>not my forte kind of as a golfer. Unfortunately, I've

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 1>always had a bit of a problem with numbers, never

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 1>really succeeded that much in math classes, So having him

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>on the bag was a help. And I also use

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>this app called flag high Pro, which you can plug

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 1>in at your home course. How fire club goes. You

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>put in all the conditions, like what elevation your home

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>course is at, how far your bawl usually goes. At

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 1>each club, you put in the temperature and the humidity

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 1>and then you can when we were down there, I

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 1>plugged in how warm it was, what the humidity was,

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and what the elevation was, and it was converting my

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>club yard just for me. So I just kind of

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 1>wrote those down to having this reference. But it was

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:37.400
<v Speaker 1>going crazy far down there, you know, me and the

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 1>group I was playing the practice round with the second

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>practice round day on eighteen four eighty yard part four.

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>We all had like foreigner gap, wedge and pitching ledge

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:51.840
<v Speaker 1>into it. Just some one ninety four. There was a

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>part through the last round and I hit pitching ledge

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that landed in the middle of the green and rolled

0:48:56.120 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 1>out a little past the flag, just because when you

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>get a tea box, it's a little elevation there and

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you're already a crazy elevation. It just makes the ball

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>fly that much further, and the higher you get it,

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the further it goes. And you're a pretty high ball

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:16.399
<v Speaker 1>flight players. So yeah, I hit some hit some miron

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>shots that went pretty far and some t shots that

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>went pretty far down there too, which is it's fun

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to play if you can control it. It can get

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a little annoying and aggravating if you're losing control of

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 1>your ball up there and it keeps flying longer than

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you think it's going too, or not as far as

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you think so. But it's definitely a little different. But

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the apps that they have out nowadays with that flag

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>high sploss so definitely makes it easier for us.

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I bet it's are you big like track man guy?

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I use it. I like to use it while

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm in more of my practicing modes. I won't use

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>it a ton this time of the year around tournaments,

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just because all the information. I kind of want to

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>know what everything is and what it's all saying. So

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I kind of can overwhelm myself a little bit this

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>time of the year and get a little too technical

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>if I look at too much. But yeah, it's an

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>awesome tool to use when you're working on your game

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and stuff.

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I bet it's just awesome for like wedge wedges, like

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, okay, this is going exactly this number.

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, absolutely it's I mean you see every week

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 1>on two of those guys all have them lined up

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.319
<v Speaker 1>behind them. And I know from when I've been at

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>some web dot Com events walking with some guys, the

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.280
<v Speaker 1>tracks Man guys just kind of roam around the range

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and asking you need to check anything out, You can

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>have them set up shop and get all your distances

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 1>for that week.

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 2>If you want what you know with your game, you know,

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 2>what would you say your strength is and what where

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 2>do you what are you working on the most to

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of get your game to the next level where

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 2>you can be playing on the web and then eventually

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the tour.

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I think my strength is just always been scrambling and

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>somehow shooting scores around even par, even on my worst

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>ball striking days, and back in the day I had

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:22.919
<v Speaker 1>some heroically bad ball striking days. The last couple of years,

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been grinding with my instructor on getting more consistent

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>with ball striking and driving the ball and just overall

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>my control of the golf ball.

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 3>And we've made some pretty big stride, which has shown

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 3>in the level of golf that I've been improving too

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 3>over the last couple of.

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Years, so we know we're on the right track there

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and we can keep improving. But my strength has always

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>been just my short game and shipping and pitching the

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>ball and putting especially they're just kind of par saving

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:59.240
<v Speaker 1>putts and just kind of grinding my way to shoot,

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever is I need to shoot that day.

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I've always taken pride and knowing that I can miss

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 1>thirteen greens in around but still shoot even par I

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>think help years you got Texas A and M I

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:15.320
<v Speaker 1>hit hit two or three greens in around, still shot

0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:18.399
<v Speaker 1>seventy one. Just had like twenty one pots or twenty

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 1>pots or something like that. So I've always had the

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>short game and I've always been able to grind it out.

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>So I know that as long as my ball striking

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>gets better, that part of my game is never going

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.879
<v Speaker 1>to leave. Some of those two things come together, it's

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good combination and I could shoot some low scores.

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I mean it's it's an art to be

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 2>able to get the ball in the hole and something

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 2>that not everybody can do. It's you know, I think

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 2>my game's opposite. I hit the ball really good and

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 2>people are always like, how do you shoot seventy six?

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:53.719
<v Speaker 2>It's so fucking frustrating.

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>So we got to think another thing go ahead, and

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I just need to keep working on is wedges. You

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:06.760
<v Speaker 1>just see these pros and these web dot com guys

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 1>when they get on courses that have good greens. And

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the conditions are nice. I haven't really seen that on

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the web dot com yet this year, but it's coming.

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you that they'll shoot them just ridiculously low

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>numbers for the week. And that's just because they're so

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>good with their wedges and short irons. They just have

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 1>so much control over them and they can really have

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the ball doing whatever they wanted to do. So just

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>get into that level and getting to the level when

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you know you're playing well and you've got some wedges

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 1>in your hands being able to shoot six, seven, eight

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>under park because you're you know you're going to make

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 1>four or five birdies with your wedges in any given rounds.

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's definitely the thing that I'm working on right

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:53.320
<v Speaker 1>now and kind of grinding on and is just trying

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>to get my get the level with my wedge game

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:59.240
<v Speaker 1>up there too, you know, that pro caliber level.

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think wedges with every single level of golf, Like,

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.279
<v Speaker 2>if you look at somebody that's a tier above you,

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 2>they're probably a lot better with their wedges. I mean,

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:16.279
<v Speaker 2>like it's I don't think it's possible to be too

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.840
<v Speaker 2>good with your wedges. I guess that's kind of the truth.

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 2>With anything in golf. But yeah, it's an area where

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:24.919
<v Speaker 2>you can improve so much.

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like what Dustin Johnson said last year, he

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>just practiced wedges for the first time last offseason. Then

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.399
<v Speaker 1>he came out last year and no one could really

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 1>touch him. I mean, he was playing just at an

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>unbelievably high level of golf and it was just because

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 1>he had just started practicing his wedges. And that's the

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 1>testament to you know, just kind of the freaky is

0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>but also testament to how important wedges are and if

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:56.319
<v Speaker 1>you if you get your wages going good, it just

0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:59.479
<v Speaker 1>and that can make you unstoppable when you start hitting

0:54:59.480 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>everything else.

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, he's just he's a freak. It's just crazy

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.640
<v Speaker 2>to me how little he works and how good he is.

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 2>But I think he works harder than people give him

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 2>credit for. So yeah, we got a ton of quick

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Twitter questions here. You know, there's a lot of a

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of action on your brother who you know. I

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 2>saw it for the first time at the State AUM

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 2>this year. He was on your bag and like I

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 2>did like a triple take because he's like a he

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 2>looks just like you, but it's like seven foot two,

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 2>so you know, who hits it further you or your brother.

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, my brother hits it way farther than I do.

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I like to think it's close sometimes, but it's really

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 1>not close at all. I mean, he it's to the

0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:57.319
<v Speaker 1>point where if I don't hit a good, I don't

0:55:57.400 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>hit my driver. Well, it's two iron up next to

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>my driver, so that always keeps me on my toes.

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 1>He's you off first, and I see he's got the

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>two iron, and I see him hit it well, and

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:09.839
<v Speaker 1>it was put the pressure on me to make sure

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I hit my drive good or else I'm gonna be

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be talking some obviously smack about how he

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 1>drove me again with his two iron. But he's he's

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>insanely long. He's getting a lot better now too. He's

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>his game's getting tighter. He's learned how to put it together,

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's the kid that he can figure out a

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of things in this game. He's gonna be scary

0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:34.880
<v Speaker 1>good because he's got exceptional touch for a guy that

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 1>hits as long as he does too, So I'm waiting

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>for that breakthrough to happen. But yeah, he he bombs

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:42.360
<v Speaker 1>up by me.

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, is he he's at Florida.

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta, off Florida Golf Coast.

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, at that school that had that crazy good basketball

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 2>team for like a year.

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, Dunk City.

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.759
<v Speaker 2>So you know, uh with that, you know too much

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 2>of the chagrin. You know, I saw that Will is

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 2>a member of the push cart mafia.

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he he does. He does push when he has

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to play in tournaments and carry his own back, which

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is it's a little it's a little unfortunate. He cites

0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it on his that he has a scoliosis or something

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 1>because he's too tall and his back screwed up. So

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what he tries to place it on. He's like,

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>my back's too long to be healthy because one liner

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 1>he said to me before. So but yeah, he unfortunately

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 1>he pushes. I'm pretty strong on you know, push cart mafia.

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:52.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's just might feel a little bit of ignorance

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and hard headedness. But I'm sticking to it.

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a recent convert to push kart mafia.

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I hate to admit it, but just you know, in

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:04.840
<v Speaker 2>a tournament doesn't make me any sense to me. Why

0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 2>you would you know, like when you think about like

0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 2>athletic competitions, like, Okay, you know, the shoulders are an

0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 2>integral part of your golf swing. Why would I put

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 2>like thirty pound bag on my shoulders for four hours? Like,

0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>how could that possibly help you.

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Four hours? That's being generous. If we're playing at tournament,

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you're probably carrying it for six Yeah.

0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm thinking that the bags down on the ground

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 2>for most, you know, for long periods.

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's that's definitely. Uh, it's an

0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 3>extremely valid point. And I don't I uh people that

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 3>push that doesn't bother me at all. I completely understand it.

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I just for me, it's just it's such a small thing.

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.919
<v Speaker 3>But having to like walk around every green. I've tried

0:58:59.920 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 3>it before, and that just drives me nuts. And like

0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 3>having to like walk around bunkers and maneuver around and

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 3>when you're playing early in the morning and you're pushing

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 3>your cart and all the dude's spraying up onto you.

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Those are just a couple of things that a couple

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:18.280
<v Speaker 3>of times I tried it. I did use it for

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:19.280
<v Speaker 3>some thirty six all.

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Days in college golf, and I have to admit my

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>back and shoulders felt much better at the end of

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the day. But I'm also kind I have a hardhead sometimes,

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>so I stuck with carrying it. Yeah.

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I like the Sunday bag too, but the problem is,

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:36.960
<v Speaker 2>like I hate putting it down on the ground all

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the time. Like somebody's got to come up with one

0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 2>that's got like a good stand, you know.

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that's like a like a little kick thing

0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that could kick out of the top of it, so

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you could I have like a little steak that keeps

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 1>your club heads. And because the problem with Sunday bag

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:57.200
<v Speaker 1>is the grips get wet because most of the Sunday bags,

0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 1>water just goes right through them.

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and it's just a pain of the ask

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 2>when it's always on the ground. I just I don't know,

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:07.040
<v Speaker 2>but I use that for a couple of tournaments this year.

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I liked it, but I didn't like it, you know.

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:13.200
<v Speaker 2>So uh, you know, passe here has a pretty loaded

1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:19.680
<v Speaker 2>question favorite former Alni and favorite member at Medina. Now

1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:25.520
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind, I'm a former Aliini, so I'm man.

1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:27.960
<v Speaker 1>This is he's put me in a really bad position

1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:32.080
<v Speaker 1>with this question, asked you and I know I know

1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:40.120
<v Speaker 1>he did it maliciously too, I would so favorite member

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:45.080
<v Speaker 1>at Medina. I probably I'll have to go with Patty

1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:48.120
<v Speaker 1>on that one. He's uh, He's always a fun guy

1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:51.439
<v Speaker 1>to see around the club and we've had some really

1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>awesome rounds of golf together. We played I think there

1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:56.440
<v Speaker 1>was two springs to go. We didn't get one in

1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:58.560
<v Speaker 1>last year, which was unfortunate, but we need to get

1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 1>another one like this and again we played. We went

1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:05.800
<v Speaker 1>out on three one afternoon, probably keep off around three

1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:09.080
<v Speaker 1>o'clock and just me and him. We walked eighteen holes

1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and a little under two and a half hours, and

1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it was just the most enjoyable, perfect day, nice brisk

1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:20.680
<v Speaker 1>ground of golf. There was no waste of time or

1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:23.160
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Fortunately there was nobody in front of us.

1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And he was giving me. He's given me some crap

1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:31.000
<v Speaker 1>because I was trying a point at the time, so

1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I was taking a little bit too much time on

1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the green figured out my aim point line and you know,

1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:39.520
<v Speaker 1>doing sign language to myself, figuring out how how much

1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the put was going to break. But we had some

1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:44.320
<v Speaker 1>fun out there, and that was definitely one of the

1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:48.600
<v Speaker 1>most fun guys I've played with around there. And then

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<v Speaker 1>favorite former line, I I'm sorry, I think I have

1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to go with my man Alex Burge on that one.

1:01:57.360 --> 1:02:00.840
<v Speaker 1>We had some we played some great tournaments together and

1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:03.840
<v Speaker 1>we've had a lot of fun to seeing each other

1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:07.520
<v Speaker 1>at events. And we had a great championship match at

1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the CDGA at Mollwood. He beat me on the last hole,

1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:14.040
<v Speaker 1>but it was a great thirty six old final match.

1:02:14.200 --> 1:02:16.520
<v Speaker 1>He played strop play in that event that year together too,

1:02:16.560 --> 1:02:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and he's always been a really fun guy to play

1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:23.560
<v Speaker 1>tournaments with and see around the events. And I know

1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:27.680
<v Speaker 1>he's in the golf industry right now working for Excel Sports,

1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I believe, so I look forward to seeing more of

1:02:30.320 --> 1:02:33.640
<v Speaker 1>him in the future. And he's just he's an awesome guy.

1:02:33.720 --> 1:02:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him at Radis Cup events and stuff too,

1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's just a fun guy to be around. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sorry to you and Papa on that one,

1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:44.400
<v Speaker 1>but I have to go with Burge for favorite former.

1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Alhini's all right, you know, no hard feelings here, but

1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I think mister Mott turtleneck might be a little butt

1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:58.240
<v Speaker 2>hurt from that one. So you know, what are some

1:02:58.280 --> 1:03:04.400
<v Speaker 2>of your favorite holes on MEDNA three And you know

1:03:04.520 --> 1:03:07.240
<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts on Dokes redo of one?

1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:14.000
<v Speaker 1>So my favorite holes on three. I think my favorite,

1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:17.000
<v Speaker 1>my one favorite hole on the golf course is whole twelve.

1:03:19.280 --> 1:03:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just the I know that there's some

1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:25.480
<v Speaker 1>people don't like that hole. I think it's a little weird.

1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the pitch of the fairway is awesome, and

1:03:28.760 --> 1:03:30.720
<v Speaker 1>just the left to right. It's not a dog leg,

1:03:30.760 --> 1:03:32.920
<v Speaker 1>but the whole, the entire hole kind of moves left

1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to right, the ground moves left to right. There's that

1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:39.440
<v Speaker 1>awesome lake right of the green and the holes the

1:03:39.480 --> 1:03:43.120
<v Speaker 1>green's perched above it. I just anytime we're playing evening

1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:45.680
<v Speaker 1>golf out there, whenever we get to twelve, it's just

1:03:46.120 --> 1:03:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a really cool approach shot and you hit some

1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:51.040
<v Speaker 1>good shots in that hole to walk away over the car.

1:03:53.800 --> 1:03:56.520
<v Speaker 1>And then I think one also is one of my

1:03:56.560 --> 1:03:58.960
<v Speaker 1>other favorite holes, just because that's by far the easiest

1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:02.000
<v Speaker 1>hole on the golf course, and it's it's always nice

1:04:02.000 --> 1:04:04.720
<v Speaker 1>when the first hole is a little driver in a wedge,

1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and especially to anyone you're taken out there for the

1:04:07.480 --> 1:04:10.480
<v Speaker 1>first time you play hole one with them and they're thinking, oh,

1:04:10.480 --> 1:04:13.240
<v Speaker 1>this course isn't too bad. It's not too hard, and

1:04:13.280 --> 1:04:16.600
<v Speaker 1>then the course just likes to punch in a face

1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times from two through eighteen. So one's

1:04:20.520 --> 1:04:24.880
<v Speaker 1>just a fun hole because it's a really easy starting hole.

1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:28.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a good way to get the round started. And

1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:33.880
<v Speaker 1>then dope of course one. I think there's definitely some

1:04:34.160 --> 1:04:37.200
<v Speaker 1>quirks about it. There's some interesting things that he did,

1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:41.360
<v Speaker 1>but overall, I think it's it's a really fun golf

1:04:41.400 --> 1:04:47.200
<v Speaker 1>course and the blessing you know. Of course one was

1:04:48.400 --> 1:04:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just a pretty uninspired design before them redo and the

1:04:52.640 --> 1:04:55.400
<v Speaker 1>back then especially was quite boring with a bunch of

1:04:55.400 --> 1:04:58.200
<v Speaker 1>par fours in a row. It felt like you played

1:04:58.240 --> 1:05:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the same hole almost eighteen times out there, and I

1:05:03.440 --> 1:05:05.760
<v Speaker 1>did have a lot of fun matches on that course

1:05:05.800 --> 1:05:08.000
<v Speaker 1>growing up, but it was nice to have him come

1:05:08.040 --> 1:05:10.560
<v Speaker 1>in and spice it up a little bit and give

1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it a lot more character and just make it a

1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:16.560
<v Speaker 1>lot more fun to play. Now there's some the front

1:05:16.640 --> 1:05:19.280
<v Speaker 1>nine's awesome bell for what he said to that whole

1:05:19.320 --> 1:05:24.400
<v Speaker 1>of the great golf will now. So yeah, I mean,

1:05:25.040 --> 1:05:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I really there's a lot of people out there that

1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:29.560
<v Speaker 1>are gonna that don't like what Dog did at all

1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:32.800
<v Speaker 1>with one. I think it's kind of quirky or whatever,

1:05:32.840 --> 1:05:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's not it's not a little course three like

1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Course one had always been. Now it's its own unique

1:05:38.760 --> 1:05:41.040
<v Speaker 1>golf course. And we're in a position now at the

1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:45.720
<v Speaker 1>club where we're gonna have three unique, eighteen whole golf courses,

1:05:45.760 --> 1:05:48.240
<v Speaker 1>which is something not a lot of other clubs in

1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the country can say. So I think that's going to

1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:51.479
<v Speaker 1>be really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's uh, let's say, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Olympia used to be four, which is crazy to think about,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, a Dinah, Yeah, it's I think you've

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<v Speaker 2>got your three is just you know, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's really hard. I think it needs a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of character. I think everybody knows my my feeling

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<v Speaker 2>for the Jones family is not one of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of warm, fuzzy feelings. So I'd love to see that

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<v Speaker 2>one get, you know, a little bit of a facelift

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<v Speaker 2>by someone that you know doesn't believe in just dismantling character.

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<v Speaker 2>But the I'm excited to see one in two when

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<v Speaker 2>it's done. But so let's use a couple of quick

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<v Speaker 2>questions here, and we're running up on our fifteen, so

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<v Speaker 2>we got some rapid fires from Brett. What's your favorite

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<v Speaker 2>golf course? Hot Dog? I know this is an important

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<v Speaker 2>question for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it's I'm gonna put it in the hot dogs

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<v Speaker 1>family because it's not a hot dog done but Olympia

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<v Speaker 1>fields further code Olympic Clubs burger dog is unbelievable to

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<v Speaker 1>transmiss out there last year, and it's a hot dog shaped.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you'd call it Patty on a hot dog bun,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a burger with cheese in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's unbelievable. I had my brother was

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<v Speaker 1>caddy for me out there last year, and he the

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<v Speaker 1>two rounds I put out there he might have had

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<v Speaker 1>in a practice line. I think he had eight or

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<v Speaker 1>nine and I had I had less than that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I only had three or four. But they're incredible. He

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<v Speaker 1>was every time he passed a halfway house, he had

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<v Speaker 1>like one in his bib and one in his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just chowing down him. This I think the

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<v Speaker 1>best food he's ever aten. But uh yeah, for me too,

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<v Speaker 1>that's definitely my best golf course hot dog I've had anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Skokie's got a really good hot dog, I

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<v Speaker 2>think too. They do they split the hot dog, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is like so underrated. You know, they split

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<v Speaker 2>it down the middle and then put it on the grill.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's like the you know, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>key to a good hot dog. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, the guys out at Halfway House at course you'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that too. If you tell him to the butterfly

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<v Speaker 1>it for you, they'll split it and then throw it

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<v Speaker 1>on the girl. That's how my dad because always got

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<v Speaker 1>him done out there. So yeah, absolutely, that's a great call.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh definitely definitely spices it up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and makes it better.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually heard from my fiance who's in the ad

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<v Speaker 2>world and is that hot dogs are gonna be like

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<v Speaker 2>the new Burger, which I don't buy it, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>what she says. So yeah, it's good good news for brus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge I'm a huge burger guy too, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I gravitated towards the burger Dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Club because it combined combine the best you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ninth pole snack and probably my favorite American cuisine of

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<v Speaker 1>a cheeseburger.

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<v Speaker 2>So hit a home run for me there, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic Club, it's on the list just for the burger Dog,

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<v Speaker 2>not just you know, because of the great golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the purest boom tower you've ever hit in

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<v Speaker 2>your life? And how many alarms do you set to

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<v Speaker 2>wake up in the morning. This is from Logan and

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm curious about the purest boom tower.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan he was a teammate of mine at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fun, you got to have on the team. Countless

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<v Speaker 1>great memories from our time together at Ohio State. But

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<v Speaker 1>purest boom tower I've ever hit. I'd like to first

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<v Speaker 1>clarify with a boom tower is my teammate Sean Bush

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<v Speaker 1>came up with boom tower our freshman or sophomore year

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<v Speaker 1>because we have this huge cell tower at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of our range at Ohio State, and depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>we're hitting at on the tee and what the winds

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<v Speaker 1>out that day, if you hit a good enough drive,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually hit the tower on the fly and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes this huge noise of the ball just rattling

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<v Speaker 1>around in all the metal there. So he did it

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<v Speaker 1>one day freshman year and just the all boom power

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<v Speaker 1>and we just it stuck with our whole team and

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<v Speaker 1>whenever a guy hit a big t shot and a

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<v Speaker 1>practice round or anything like that that would always get

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<v Speaker 1>called out. But the purest one I've ever hit was

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<v Speaker 1>probably at Regionals last year on the last hole at

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<v Speaker 1>black Wolf Front on the meadow of course, and I

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<v Speaker 1>poll it was just tough win and tough te shot

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<v Speaker 1>and I just sat up there and bombed a little

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<v Speaker 1>cut out there, and it was it was a tough

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<v Speaker 1>t shot because I knew I had a one shot lead,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a shot I had to navigate around

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<v Speaker 1>and was able to hit one out there pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>and left myself a short iron into the green instead

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<v Speaker 1>of a mid or long iron. So that's definitely the

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<v Speaker 1>one when I saw that question was on the docket,

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<v Speaker 1>stuck out in my mind that I had to bring

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<v Speaker 1>up as my purest boom tower.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, there's nothing better than hidden, just a

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<v Speaker 2>pure golf shot under intense pressure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of why we practice and plays to

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<v Speaker 1>make the most of those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird. I don't know how you feel, but

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<v Speaker 2>I get I'm nerveier early in rounds than later in rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, it definitely can depend on the circumstance a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But yeah, especially what I've always found tough

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<v Speaker 1>is the first day in a big tournament, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just getting those first three or four holes out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way, because those could be you know, you're the

1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:45.680
<v Speaker 1>club maybe feels a little heavy in your hands, or

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<v Speaker 1>when you're walking around at your feet feel a little lighter.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just not fully comfortable in the situation yet, So

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<v Speaker 1>those can be the the most nerve wracking moments of

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest ones to navigate around, just waiting to get

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in the round.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so let's see best Illinois like as a high

1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:09.400
<v Speaker 4>school junior golf tournament, Like, what's the best one that

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<v Speaker 4>you played in?

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<v Speaker 2>And just in the state of Illinois. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>from Derek.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most memorable one for my junior golfer

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<v Speaker 1>in Illinois has to be the the Medina Shriner Tournament

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<v Speaker 1>that was held out at Medina every spring thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>holes when I was growing up. It was on courses

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<v Speaker 1>one and two one in the morning, two in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and which has recently switched that I know they've been

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<v Speaker 1>playing course three the last couple of years, which is

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<v Speaker 1>it made me very jealous, but yeah, just everyone would

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<v Speaker 1>thanks and come out, and obviously it was me going

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<v Speaker 1>out to my home course to playing a tournament, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just the blast, eating lunch in the clubhouse

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<v Speaker 1>in between the rounds and getting to play the two

1:13:01.120 --> 1:13:04.519
<v Speaker 1>courses I grew up on, and it was always Course two.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only sixty three hundred yards and not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of trouble on it. It's tight, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty short and pretty easy. But everyone seemed to play

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<v Speaker 1>better in course one. And everyone got to course too.

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<v Speaker 1>The greens are smaller and a little quicker, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to give people headaches. So it was always it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a lot of fun playing that event with

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<v Speaker 1>all your friends. And you know, back in high school

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<v Speaker 1>and middle school, getting to miss a day of school

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<v Speaker 1>for it too. It's just always good memories.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. It's I mean, I always remember junior whenever you

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<v Speaker 2>got to play a great golf course was the best.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's getting off the local munis and onto

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<v Speaker 2>the country clubs was always fun. So we'll end with

1:13:48.800 --> 1:13:54.000
<v Speaker 2>a couple quick hitters here. So golf tournament you most

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<v Speaker 2>want to play in in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Oh well, if it's a twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>probably the US Open. Okay, I'd love to get through

1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:11.160
<v Speaker 1>qualifying for that. I made it through to sectionals last

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<v Speaker 1>year and didn't play that well a sectionals, but I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to have another chance at that. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm looking at tournaments to play in this year, yeah, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>the US Open sticks out is number one on my list.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Yeah, that's a good one. So if you were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you were in a PGA Tour event,

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<v Speaker 2>who would you most want to be paired with for

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<v Speaker 2>the first two rounds of your first PGA Tour event.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a really good question. Probably guys that would

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<v Speaker 1>that would just be a fun time to play with.

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<v Speaker 1>Random one, but this sticks out, Jerry Kelly. He seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he'd be a super fun guy to have the

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<v Speaker 1>first experience with it. You know, he'd make you feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable and he'd just be a relaxing guy to be

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<v Speaker 1>out there with. You know, it wouldn't It'd be tough

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<v Speaker 1>to play in a first tour event with a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge name or a guy that is super serious

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<v Speaker 1>out there, because whenever you're playing a first event, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was a first big amateur event from here or

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<v Speaker 1>usam or something, it could be you know, a little intimidating.

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<v Speaker 1>So being with guys that would make it easy and

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<v Speaker 1>as enjoyable experience as possible be awesome. So I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Jerry Kelly. And this goes against everything

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<v Speaker 1>I just said too, but it'd also be just sweet

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<v Speaker 1>to play with Tiger Woods in a two event. That

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<v Speaker 1>would just be my dream. So I gave two exact

1:15:42.160 --> 1:15:45.000
<v Speaker 1>opposite answers to the spectrum there. But that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sicking with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have like everything that you don't want with Tiger,

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<v Speaker 2>big crowds. He'd probably be a nice guy. New Tiger

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<v Speaker 2>is a nice guy on the golf course. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 2>then so you know five horses that you most want

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<v Speaker 2>to check out and see in the near future, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of like your five bucket list places

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<v Speaker 2>you want to play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one too, think shore Acres. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>played the Shore Acres for I'll put two Chicago ones

1:16:20.160 --> 1:16:23.320
<v Speaker 1>in their Shore Acres and Old Elms. Those are two

1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:26.160
<v Speaker 1>places that I've never been up to in the Chicago

1:16:26.280 --> 1:16:30.840
<v Speaker 1>land area and that I'd really like to check out for.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to head up to Sand Valley. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>played kind of golf Wisconsin My family's always gone up

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<v Speaker 1>to Kohler and Aaron Hills for some family trips, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think to head up to Sand Valley up there too.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be awesome. Another kind of Midwest one. Crystal Downs.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always I've heard nothing but awesome things about that place,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not too far from Chicago, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of another area course that I'd like to knock out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then other than that, just kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>The I think the biggest one on my list is

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<v Speaker 3>just the Cypress Point. We played out at Pebble in college,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd been out and monerated before, and I played

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of courses in that area, but the one

1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:17.599
<v Speaker 3>that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Always drive by, and you know, we hopped out of

1:17:20.680 --> 1:17:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the car and walked back to the cliffs a couple

1:17:24.080 --> 1:17:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of times to check out sixteen fifteen at Cypress. It

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<v Speaker 1>just looks like it's heaven on earth. So that's that's

1:17:31.840 --> 1:17:33.599
<v Speaker 1>probably at the top of my list right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that place looks so good. My grandpa,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, used to get he'd get this two week

1:17:41.880 --> 1:17:43.559
<v Speaker 2>he knew a member out there, and he'd get a

1:17:43.600 --> 1:17:47.400
<v Speaker 2>two week pass to play out at Cypress. Back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Like I think this was in the sixties

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<v Speaker 2>or seventies, and one time he had a friend come

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<v Speaker 2>out and like he was so pissed because his friend

1:17:55.680 --> 1:17:58.040
<v Speaker 2>really wanted to see pebble, so he had to leave

1:17:58.280 --> 1:18:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Cypress for a day to go play pebble.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's an awesome story. I'm jealous of my mom

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<v Speaker 1>there with Cyprus because I think she played either three

1:18:11.400 --> 1:18:14.080
<v Speaker 1>years in college in an event there, maybe all four years.

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<v Speaker 1>So she says she's played Cyprus around thirteen to fifteen times.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's and you know, Cypress to her, she's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've played out there quite a few times. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>really a big deal to her. She's like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a beautiful golf course, it's a beautiful piece of property.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, it's Cypress Point. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't get really any better than that. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still waiting on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, me too, just got it. It's a place

1:18:42.760 --> 1:18:46.719
<v Speaker 2>you just patiently wait, all right. And last question here,

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<v Speaker 2>who's your favorite architect alive or dead? To play.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheth Rayner. He just there's just something about I can't

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<v Speaker 1>It's just every time I go to a Seth Brainer Place.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm just gonna play a super classic golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to know exactly what a few of the

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<v Speaker 1>holes are going to be like, I'm going to know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the kind of overall strategy of how he

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<v Speaker 1>wants you to play the golf course and where you

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<v Speaker 1>need to attack, and the holes that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be available for you to make some birdies on and

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<v Speaker 1>the holes that you're going to have to navigate around.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've had pretty good success on Seth Rainer courses

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, and I've never really played a Seth

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<v Speaker 1>Rainer course that I haven't loved, so I would have

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<v Speaker 1>to say Rainer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean really good. Everything he said so true.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I got to cross another one off last

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<v Speaker 2>week at Mountain Lake. Just you know, can't go wrong

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<v Speaker 2>when you build a golf course that is centered around

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the greatest golf holes you know of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just if you build your core strategy around there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like really hard to mess up in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely awesome. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, I hope everybody listening got to hear. But

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<v Speaker 2>give TK a follow and add them to your favorite

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<v Speaker 2>players On a Latin American Tour, which kicks off in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks. Tk's really good Twitter follow too,

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<v Speaker 2>so looking forward to following along while you start your journey.

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<v Speaker 2>And best of luck, and we will be uh, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be cheering from the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, absolutely, thanks for having me on. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>everything you're doing with the golf course overviews and the

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<v Speaker 1>template holes all that stuff. It's it's awesome, and love

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<v Speaker 1>reading all about it. So keep doing what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Frida egg. I love falling along and love

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<v Speaker 1>reading your stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man, Well we'll get a game I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>here soon when I'm either down in Florida or up

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<v Speaker 2>here in Chicago, so be well.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, absolutely looking forward to it. Thanks again,