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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 2: FRIDAYGG podcast. UH. This week, our guest is t K Kelly.

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Speaker 2: He's a Chicago native and recent Ohio State graduate. TK

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Speaker 2: just earned status on the Latin American Tour and he

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Speaker 2: a NCAA regional last year, two Illinois state amateur titles,

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Speaker 2: beaten up on hacks like me, and you know, his

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Speaker 2: So t K, welcome on, Thanks.

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Speaker 1: For having me on. I'm excited to hop on here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're diverging. We've been on an architect tear

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely going to be down in Latin America this

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So why don't you give our listeners a little

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I think Dave's working on a pretty big

438
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Speaker 1: project out in Oregon, I believe called Pacific Gales that's

439
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: supposed to supposed to be done in the next few

440
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: years that he's been working at for a while. I

441
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: get the land like ten or so years ago, and

442
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: he's just been He's been involved with every single part

443
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: of the project. So it's something to look out for.

444
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: That should be a pretty cool design out there.

445
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: It's that Pacific Northwest has got to have some of

446
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: the best golf of any area. It's like so under

447
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: the radar because I feel like the Pacific Northwest is

448
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: just there, you know, and nobody really pays attention to it.

449
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: And it's like you've got Bandon, You've got you've got

450
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: Wine Valley, You've got Gamble Sands, You've got Chambers up

451
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: in Washington. But then you've also got like, you know,

452
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: Dan Hickson's just finishing up a reversible course that's supposed

453
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: to be really cool called Sylvie's Rant. I need to

454
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: spend like two weeks there, I think this summer and

455
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: just knock it out.

456
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: The uh which Hollow Pumpkin Ridge is also an unbelievable

457
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: golf course. We played the Nike event out there the

458
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: fall of my senior year, and I couldn't believe how

459
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: just cool and unique that golf course was. I mean

460
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: just in dense forests and nature. It is just this

461
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: kind of beautifully carved out eighteen hole golf course and

462
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: there's some really cool Part Three's just a lot of

463
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 1: unique holes. You never played the same hole twice, it was.

464
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: It was really a kind of unexpected gem for me

465
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: that I always knew Pumpkin Ridge was nice and obviously

466
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: the USN there with Tiger is a legendary, but I

467
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting the course of that awesome. It was really cool.

468
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of that too. They have that web

469
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: event out there and Vince India was saying he loved

470
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 2: that place. It's it's just I just signed the bucket.

471
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: I gotta get out there. So you know, obviously you're

472
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: kind of calling card Win. Was the NCAA regional up

473
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: at coler where you beat you know, great Field. I

474
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: mean you look down the name and names of that.

475
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: You know, you had Toasty from Florida. You had Tom

476
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: Deetree who's are a one on the Challenge Tour, top

477
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: three in his first start on the European Tour as

478
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: a full member. You know, Charlie Danielson and he had

479
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: four time All American tell us a little bit about

480
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: that win, and I remember I was playing a tournament

481
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: that same week and conditions were just brutal.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was cold out there in color

483
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: which definitely helped the Midwest teams that were there a

484
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: little bit because I know UCLA came out there in

485
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Florida came out there, and Florida State was out there too.

486
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: They're coming from I mean May and Florida is like

487
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: the middle of summer, so I know, but there was

488
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: the conditions were tough. But I we played in snow

489
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before at our home event in Columbus,

490
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: so the cold wasn't really bothering us too much last spring.

491
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, winning that event, I was just I was

492
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: just playing really well. It just had my mind pretty clear.

493
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I was it was either that it was going to

494
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: be my last event or I was going to play

495
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: good enough to play one more time for Ohio State

496
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: and just didn't didn't let the situation get too big

497
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: or anything, and just plugged away and played some really

498
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: good golf, started petting really well, and the final round

499
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: I started on the back nine and we were the

500
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: last team to go off for the last groups to

501
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: go off, because I was there's an individual with another teammate,

502
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: Will Grimmer, but yeah, it was I had no idea

503
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: what the other guy with the you know, Florida toast

504
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: he get shot on his front nine. I turned a

505
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: three under and I thought I was still going to

506
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: need to make a bunch of birdies even have a chance,

507
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: and made a couple more, and then I made a

508
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: couple of bogies and asked my coach after coming off

509
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: my seventeenth hole what I needed to do, and I

510
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: just was asked him what I need to do to

511
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: make a tens of ways because I knew the low

512
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: guy from a non advancing team made it. And he's like,

513
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: you're leading by one and you're in nscublaze by four

514
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: right now, And I was like, I just I had

515
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: no idea. I was like, what I thought, I was

516
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: still going to be a few behind, and he even wins.

517
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: So then I just kind of made a couple of

518
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: good swimmings on the last hole, made to get two cut,

519
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: and it just kind of happened. I never really had

520
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: thought about it that much. The whole week just plugged away,

521
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: and you tried to keep playing good golf and was

522
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to play good enough buff to win.

523
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: So you've you know, you won two State ams, you

524
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: won this, you won it was a lone star invitational too.

525
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Are you do you like to know kind of where

526
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: everybody's at, and you know, are you are you a

527
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: leaderboard watcher like or are you somebody that just kind

528
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: of likes to go about their business obviously you know,

529
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: winning is a tough thing to do and always curious.

530
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely a leaderboard watcher. There's there's no way

531
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: around that. For me. I didn't know what the Florida

532
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: guy was that at the turn, but when I made

533
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: the turn, I definitely looked and I tried as hard

534
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: as I could to figure out what he was at,

535
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: but there was no real leaderboards out there at the

536
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: State Am. I stare at him just seeing what holes

537
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: kids are through, you know, if they've got Bertie holes

538
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: coming up or whatever. When it's and I point out

539
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: that I really want to do this in the final

540
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: round when it's the back nine, and I always talk

541
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: about with my coach John Perna that you know, you

542
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: you have you have a strategy to get yourself in a

543
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: position to be able to contend and when. But when that,

544
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: when it's the back nine, the final round, whether it

545
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: be the forces, third round, everything else gets kind of

546
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: thrown out the window and it's a different game. You

547
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: gotta you know, you're gonna have to make some different decisions.

548
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to kind of see what other guys

549
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: are doing, how low you're gonna have to go, how

550
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: many burgers you're gonna have to make, And I know

551
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: some people have a very different opinion on that, but

552
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: that's had the system I've always went with and seemed to,

553
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, kind of rise to the occasion when it's

554
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: crunch time like that. So it's a system I'm going

555
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: to stick with moving forward, and it's just kind of

556
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: the way I've always gone about doing it. So yeah,

557
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: I definitely watched the leaderboards and like to like to

558
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: know exactly what it is that I need to do,

559
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: and if it puts a little bit more pressure on myself,

560
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: so be it. It's just what needs to get done to

561
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: trying to win the event.

562
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine to get yourself into that position where you

563
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: have a shot, you have to be playing pretty well

564
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: and have kind of full control of the game. So

565
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: it's you know, a place where you can kind of

566
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: push put the pedal to the metal a little bit more,

567
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: and you know you're probably hitting really good golf shots already, right.

568
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Exactly, And you know, you get to that point where

569
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: you can even be in position to win an event,

570
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: you have to be playing exceptional golf. So put in

571
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, put a little bit more pressure on

572
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: yourself and understand, you to make a couple of birdies,

573
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: isn't isn't really that big of a deal in the

574
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: grand scheme of the golf even playing that week to

575
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: get into that position. So you just got to kind

576
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: of accept it and own up to it and just

577
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: make it happen.

578
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: So outside outside yourself, you know who are who are

579
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: some guys and some names that you know golf fans

580
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: should be keeping an eye out that are either playing

581
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: WEB or Latin America Canadian Tour. You know that could

582
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: really be great players at the next level, or are

583
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: still in college for that matter.

584
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, coming out of Illinois, Nick Hardy is I'm

585
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: just really good. He just killed everybody at the state

586
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: down this year. But I played some pretty good golf

587
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: to shoot what I did and that second place with

588
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: him by ten, So that was incredible. I may have

589
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: had great success at Illinois and other amateur events and

590
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: US Open stuff like that, so.

591
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: I made a joke. I thought I thought I could

592
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: keep it in if if if I had made the

593
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: cut of the State am I'm pretty confident that I

594
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: would have kept it within forty shots of Hardy.

595
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: Just yeah, he was. He was on a different level

596
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: that week. That was just fun to be to be

597
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: a part of that because I think me and the

598
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: even me and the guy who finished in third place,

599
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: we broke the you know, previous scoring record to par

600
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: for state ams, but we still lost by ten and eleven.

601
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: It was that course set up was I mean, it

602
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: was just for you guys that hit it and just

603
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: vomb it, and it was just a wedge and putting

604
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: contest for you guys.

605
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And he's a he's a really good wedge

606
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: player and an exceptional cutter. So that was really no

607
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: surprise when you think about it. But other guys Jonathan Garrick,

608
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: he went to u c l A, played the Canadian

609
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: Tour this summer. He's a he's a guy known for

610
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: a long time. Our samways were old friends and he

611
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: grew up in California. But he's he's just a really

612
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: good player, hits it awesome as an awesome short game,

613
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: and he's he's definitely a guy to look out for.

614
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: He's played a couple of web events. I think he

615
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: played and played in Mexico and Maacoba.

616
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: And.

617
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: He's just a guy that I just think he's he's

618
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: really good and you know when whenever it is that

619
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: he's going to break through and make it to the

620
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: top level, he's going to do it. And then I mean,

621
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: the guy played with the college Will Grimmer, he's, you know,

622
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: the fifty nine kid. I know he'll get a chuckle

623
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: out of that. But he played the US Open when

624
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: he was sixteen at Pinehurst and had a pretty exceptional

625
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: freshman season, making regals as an individual last year and

626
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: just had some had some really good finishes and got

627
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: second at the Jones Cup last year too, which is

628
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: pretty awesome achievement. So he's he's always a kid that

629
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: you got to keep your eye on. He knows his

630
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: game maybe better than anybody else I've ever been around.

631
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: Just hits it awesome, throws and darts with his hybrid

632
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: club and he's just he's gonna be really good for

633
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: a really long time. Absolutely loves the game of golf

634
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: and loves loves golf course architecture and everything else too.

635
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: So he was a fun kid to have on the

636
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: team and definitely could I learned a lot from Even

637
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: though he was a freshman. I was a senior last year.

638
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: It was nice to have a kid on the team

639
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: like that, and I could take his brain a little bit,

640
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: and I think it made both of us better. M H.

641
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: It's interesting the you know, guys that get it done

642
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: in different ways. People always talk about like their dream

643
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: for some I think having guys with different games like

644
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: to watch, you know, it's like you don't want all

645
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: the bombers in there, Like that's a good question. Who

646
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: would you if you were going to pay to watch

647
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: four guys play golf? I'm a PGA tour, which four

648
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: would be in that foursome?

649
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: I would probably have to pay to watch. I want

650
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Steve Stricker in there because from what I've heard from everybody,

651
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: his wedge game is just absurd. I've seen him hit

652
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: one WEG shot in my life, and that was when

653
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: I was randomly at Medna on one Monday and he

654
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: was playing an outing out there and he hit one

655
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: into the ninth hole of course one and I like

656
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of standing right there and it came a flat,

657
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: It skipped once and it was like three feet behind

658
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: the hole and it was just like, it's a really

659
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: hard wed shot at Madia. It hit that wed shot

660
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: one hundred times growing up, and just that he was,

661
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, just out there entertaining guys in a corporate

662
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: and just threw that little wegshot in there. And I

663
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: played with Daniel Chopra on a Monday qualifier a couple

664
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: of years ago for the John Deere and he said

665
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: his wedge game is just ridiculous, Like he just hits

666
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: these little balls in there that don't really spin. They

667
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: just take one hop and stop at whatever yard she

668
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: wants them to. So I think that'd be cool to watch.

669
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: I think Dustin Johnson just because he's kind of a freak,

670
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: even though playing with my little brothers like playing with

671
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson, but he'd be a fun guy in there.

672
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: And then I think you'd want to have someone who

673
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: could just put the absolute eyes out of the ball,

674
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: maybe even like Lauren Roberts. He just has the silkiest

675
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: putting stroke. I watched him at the Champions Tour event

676
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: last year down here in Naples, and it was just

677
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: even washing. Him patted in like three footers. It's just

678
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: smoothest putting stroke you've ever seen. It'd be fun to

679
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: watch a guy like that just poured in from all

680
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: angles all day.

681
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: You got, you got one more spot is a big cat.

682
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh no, it might be. Oh man, now

683
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pickle. I would just all to force him,

684
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: might have to be filled, just so you get the

685
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: betting angle in there, just so you get to just

686
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: so you get to watch the money game unlined. And

687
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: having Lauren robertson there too, just chopping some bombs for

688
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: some big cash would be a pretty pretty fun spectacle

689
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: to watch.

690
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Lauren Roberts would negotiate getting some

691
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: pops and then he would just you know, drain everything

692
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: all day. He'd probably fill his teammate, you know the

693
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: old guys. I mean, I guess Strickers old too. You know.

694
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: I like that you got you got a very interesting

695
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: group of personalities in there.

696
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that would if we wanted to

697
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: like have a professional golf money game on ESPN Under

698
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: the Lights. I think your first foursome of DJ Long,

699
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: Robert Stricker and Phil is definitely a head turner. I

700
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: think I'd get the viewers in for sure.

701
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, that's the thing that bugs me is like,

702
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: you know, they talk about these like you know, made

703
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: for TV things, and they always go for like, you know,

704
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: the big four names, Like, but if you got some

705
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: different guys with the personality contrast to their games, Like,

706
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand why they're you know, they always want

707
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: to do these made for TV things with just four guys.

708
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: Why don't you do like four foursome So there's like

709
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: a lot of golf being played.

710
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they want to. They want to do like

711
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: an under the Light skins game thing. It's got to

712
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: be like three or four groups, you know, And that

713
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: way you could at least have you could have the

714
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: whole field on two holes maybe, but it would be

715
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: more than just four guys, because then if you got

716
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: two the guys that are squeezing that you know, made

717
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: for TV event in between a couple other events and

718
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: aren't that into it or aren't that aren't playing that great,

719
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: then it's just like it's not even that fun to watch.

720
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. You know, if they, you know, ever

721
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: put me in charge of something like that, that's what

722
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm changing. So you know, down in Florida,

723
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: what's it like? Have you gotten to know a lot

724
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: of the mini tour guys down there? And like, do

725
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: you guys you get regular games down there yet?

726
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: I've played in a few. I haven't. I moved down

727
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: just before New Year's uh so I was down a

728
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before I left for Columbia and I've

729
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: only been back two and a half days now. But yeah,

730
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: I've met a few guys. I've gotten in a couple

731
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: of games and some local courses down here. I went

732
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: and played in a minor league Golf Tour event over

733
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: by Jupiter before I left for Columbia, just to get

734
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: some competiti of reps. And that's not some major tagon

735
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: lingo now, but it's all about the reps. But yeah,

736
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: just I've got some guys at the club I joined too,

737
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try to play in a few games

738
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: like that and so many tour events. But kind of

739
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: that's a nice thing about having full status down there.

740
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: Now I can set up my schedule so when I'm

741
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: back home, it's more just getting prepared to try to

742
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: play as play as good as I can when I

743
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: head down to Latin America. So you know, if I

744
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: play well enough down there, it'll open some more doors

745
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: down the road and I'll be able to play in

746
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: some other events and possibly some web dot Com tour stuff.

747
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: So kind of shifted my focus a little bit from

748
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,479
Speaker 1: playing and a bunch of the games and mini tour

749
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: stuff to just kind of use my time down here

750
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: to get prepared to go play as good as I

751
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: can on the Latin American Tour.

752
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: That's smart. So you've finished eleven last week in Bogata,

753
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: so you got full status. You know what, uh what

754
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: country are you most? I mean you're going to be

755
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: all over Central and South America? Like what are what

756
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: are some of the sites you're most excited to go see?

757
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Term that I'm really looking forward to. I know that

758
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: my friends that played on the tour last year said

759
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: it was awesome. Is the Dominican Republic open at Teeth

760
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: in the Dog, which is much to my chagrin at

761
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: Pete Die Golf Course, but I've heard it's beautiful and

762
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: it's on the ocean, and it's in the Dominican Republic,

763
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: So put those a couple of things together, you really

764
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: can't go wrong. So that'll be a fun one. And

765
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: then some of the some of the more interesting countries,

766
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: like there's an event in Nicaragua. My cousin out in

767
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: San Diego is a huge surfer and he's already expressed

768
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: that he wants to come caddy for me and in

769
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: that event because it's twenty minutes away from one of

770
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: his favorite surf breaks in the world. So I might

771
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: have a surfer slash caddy down there for that event

772
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: that week. And I think there's just some really cool

773
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: I've heard Buenos Aires is just an incredible city, so

774
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to checking that out. And that's the

775
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: second event of the season. And yeah, and Antigua is

776
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: another place that I've heard is pretty awesome. And then

777
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: probably the last one that's gonna be cool to check

778
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: out is Ecuador. Playing golf right in the equator is

779
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: going to be kind of crazy. That's it ten or

780
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: so thousand feet, which is even higher than bo Guita was,

781
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: so the ball goes even farther there and it's right

782
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: in the capital city of Quito, which is right on

783
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: the equator. So that'll be just just a unique experience

784
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: that you can honestly really only find on the Latin

785
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: American Tour, which is going to be I have never

786
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: traveled out of the country just because I've always played

787
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: golf tournaments kind of during breaks, and I've always geared

788
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: all my travel so much towards golf. It would be

789
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: cool to almost study abroad and be able to play

790
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: golf at the same time. Like I kind of tell

791
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: people who aren't you don't know too much about golf

792
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: that I'm almost going down to Latin America's like going

793
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: to grad school for my golf degree, just studying abroad

794
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: and getting more experience and playing some events. So yeah,

795
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it. It should be a

796
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: cool time traveling around down there.

797
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is cool. I mean I spent like ten

798
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: days down in Argentina last year right before I started

799
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: this thing, and it's cool. Man. I got to play

800
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: the Jockey Club down there, which is like a Mackenzie course.

801
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: Really cool. I mean, it's what a great experience to

802
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: get to, you know, travel around down there, learn, you know,

803
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: learn how to be a pro in some pretty cool spots.

804
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: How do you go about figuring out distances that you're

805
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: hitting the ball when you change altitudes. I've always wondered that.

806
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a hot topic when we were down

807
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: there or Bogata. Everyone was trying to figure that out. Ogata.

808
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: Was it about eighty seven hundred feet or so? Was

809
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: the course? Was that so it was about twelve to

810
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: thirteen percent. So we just kind of converted basic yardages

811
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: of you know what two hundred yards was at that

812
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: elevation and so down So we just we just kind

813
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: of did some old school math like that, me and

814
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: my dad on the bag. And it was a good

815
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: thing my dad was on the bag because math is

816
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: not my forte kind of as a golfer. Unfortunately, I've

817
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: always had a bit of a problem with numbers, never

818
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: really succeeded that much in math classes, So having him

819
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: on the bag was a help. And I also use

820
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: this app called flag high Pro, which you can plug

821
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: in at your home course. How fire club goes. You

822
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: put in all the conditions, like what elevation your home

823
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: course is at, how far your bawl usually goes. At

824
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: each club, you put in the temperature and the humidity

825
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: and then you can when we were down there, I

826
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: plugged in how warm it was, what the humidity was,

827
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: and what the elevation was, and it was converting my

828
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: club yard just for me. So I just kind of

829
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: wrote those down to having this reference. But it was

830
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: going crazy far down there, you know, me and the

831
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: group I was playing the practice round with the second

832
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: practice round day on eighteen four eighty yard part four.

833
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: We all had like foreigner gap, wedge and pitching ledge

834
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: into it. Just some one ninety four. There was a

835
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: part through the last round and I hit pitching ledge

836
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: that landed in the middle of the green and rolled

837
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: out a little past the flag, just because when you

838
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: get a tea box, it's a little elevation there and

839
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: you're already a crazy elevation. It just makes the ball

840
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: fly that much further, and the higher you get it,

841
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: the further it goes. And you're a pretty high ball

842
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: flight players. So yeah, I hit some hit some miron

843
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: shots that went pretty far and some t shots that

844
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: went pretty far down there too, which is it's fun

845
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: to play if you can control it. It can get

846
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: a little annoying and aggravating if you're losing control of

847
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: your ball up there and it keeps flying longer than

848
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: you think it's going too, or not as far as

849
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: you think so. But it's definitely a little different. But

850
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: the apps that they have out nowadays with that flag

851
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: high sploss so definitely makes it easier for us.

852
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet it's are you big like track man guy?

853
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I use it. I like to use it while

854
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm in more of my practicing modes. I won't use

855
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: it a ton this time of the year around tournaments,

856
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: just because all the information. I kind of want to

857
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: know what everything is and what it's all saying. So

858
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: I kind of can overwhelm myself a little bit this

859
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: time of the year and get a little too technical

860
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: if I look at too much. But yeah, it's an

861
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: awesome tool to use when you're working on your game

862
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: and stuff.

863
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: I bet it's just awesome for like wedge wedges, like

864
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: you know, okay, this is going exactly this number.

865
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely it's I mean you see every week

866
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: on two of those guys all have them lined up

867
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: behind them. And I know from when I've been at

868
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: some web dot Com events walking with some guys, the

869
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: tracks Man guys just kind of roam around the range

870
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: and asking you need to check anything out, You can

871
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: have them set up shop and get all your distances

872
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: for that week.

873
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: If you want what you know with your game, you know,

874
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: what would you say your strength is and what where

875
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: do you what are you working on the most to

876
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: kind of get your game to the next level where

877
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: you can be playing on the web and then eventually

878
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: the tour.

879
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: I think my strength is just always been scrambling and

880
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: somehow shooting scores around even par, even on my worst

881
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: ball striking days, and back in the day I had

882
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: some heroically bad ball striking days. The last couple of years,

883
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: I've been grinding with my instructor on getting more consistent

884
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: with ball striking and driving the ball and just overall

885
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: my control of the golf ball.

886
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: And we've made some pretty big stride, which has shown

887
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: in the level of golf that I've been improving too

888
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: over the last couple of.

889
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: Years, so we know we're on the right track there

890
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: and we can keep improving. But my strength has always

891
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: been just my short game and shipping and pitching the

892
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: ball and putting especially they're just kind of par saving

893
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: putts and just kind of grinding my way to shoot,

894
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, whatever is I need to shoot that day.

895
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: I've always taken pride and knowing that I can miss

896
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: thirteen greens in around but still shoot even par I

897
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: think help years you got Texas A and M I

898
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: hit hit two or three greens in around, still shot

899
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: seventy one. Just had like twenty one pots or twenty

900
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: pots or something like that. So I've always had the

901
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: short game and I've always been able to grind it out.

902
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: So I know that as long as my ball striking

903
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: gets better, that part of my game is never going

904
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: to leave. Some of those two things come together, it's

905
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: a pretty good combination and I could shoot some low scores.

906
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean it's it's an art to be

907
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: able to get the ball in the hole and something

908
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: that not everybody can do. It's you know, I think

909
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: my game's opposite. I hit the ball really good and

910
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: people are always like, how do you shoot seventy six?

911
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: It's so fucking frustrating.

912
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: So we got to think another thing go ahead, and

913
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: I just need to keep working on is wedges. You

914
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: just see these pros and these web dot com guys

915
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: when they get on courses that have good greens. And

916
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: the conditions are nice. I haven't really seen that on

917
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: the web dot com yet this year, but it's coming.

918
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that they'll shoot them just ridiculously low

919
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: numbers for the week. And that's just because they're so

920
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: good with their wedges and short irons. They just have

921
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: so much control over them and they can really have

922
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: the ball doing whatever they wanted to do. So just

923
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: get into that level and getting to the level when

924
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: you know you're playing well and you've got some wedges

925
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: in your hands being able to shoot six, seven, eight

926
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: under park because you're you know you're going to make

927
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: four or five birdies with your wedges in any given rounds.

928
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: So that's definitely the thing that I'm working on right

929
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: now and kind of grinding on and is just trying

930
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: to get my get the level with my wedge game

931
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: up there too, you know, that pro caliber level.

932
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think wedges with every single level of golf, Like,

933
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: if you look at somebody that's a tier above you,

934
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: they're probably a lot better with their wedges. I mean,

935
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: like it's I don't think it's possible to be too

936
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: good with your wedges. I guess that's kind of the truth.

937
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: With anything in golf. But yeah, it's an area where

938
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: you can improve so much.

939
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like what Dustin Johnson said last year, he

940
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: just practiced wedges for the first time last offseason. Then

941
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: he came out last year and no one could really

942
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: touch him. I mean, he was playing just at an

943
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: unbelievably high level of golf and it was just because

944
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: he had just started practicing his wedges. And that's the

945
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: testament to you know, just kind of the freaky is

946
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: but also testament to how important wedges are and if

947
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: you if you get your wages going good, it just

948
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 1: and that can make you unstoppable when you start hitting

949
00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: everything else.

950
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's just he's a freak. It's just crazy

951
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: to me how little he works and how good he is.

952
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: But I think he works harder than people give him

953
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: credit for. So yeah, we got a ton of quick

954
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: Twitter questions here. You know, there's a lot of a

955
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: lot of action on your brother who you know. I

956
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: saw it for the first time at the State AUM

957
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: this year. He was on your bag and like I

958
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: did like a triple take because he's like a he

959
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: looks just like you, but it's like seven foot two,

960
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: so you know, who hits it further you or your brother.

961
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, my brother hits it way farther than I do.

962
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: I like to think it's close sometimes, but it's really

963
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: not close at all. I mean, he it's to the

964
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: point where if I don't hit a good, I don't

965
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: hit my driver. Well, it's two iron up next to

966
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: my driver, so that always keeps me on my toes.

967
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: He's you off first, and I see he's got the

968
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: two iron, and I see him hit it well, and

969
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: it was put the pressure on me to make sure

970
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: I hit my drive good or else I'm gonna be

971
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: He's gonna be talking some obviously smack about how he

972
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: drove me again with his two iron. But he's he's

973
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: insanely long. He's getting a lot better now too. He's

974
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: his game's getting tighter. He's learned how to put it together,

975
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: and he's the kid that he can figure out a

976
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: couple of things in this game. He's gonna be scary

977
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: good because he's got exceptional touch for a guy that

978
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: hits as long as he does too, So I'm waiting

979
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: for that breakthrough to happen. But yeah, he he bombs

980
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: up by me.

981
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, is he he's at Florida.

982
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta, off Florida Golf Coast.

983
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: Oh, at that school that had that crazy good basketball

984
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: team for like a year.

985
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Dunk City.

986
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: So you know, uh with that, you know too much

987
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: of the chagrin. You know, I saw that Will is

988
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: a member of the push cart mafia.

989
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he does. He does push when he has

990
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: to play in tournaments and carry his own back, which

991
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: is it's a little it's a little unfortunate. He cites

992
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: it on his that he has a scoliosis or something

993
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: because he's too tall and his back screwed up. So

994
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: that's what he tries to place it on. He's like,

995
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: my back's too long to be healthy because one liner

996
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: he said to me before. So but yeah, he unfortunately

997
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: he pushes. I'm pretty strong on you know, push cart mafia.

998
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: But it's just might feel a little bit of ignorance

999
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: and hard headedness. But I'm sticking to it.

1000
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a recent convert to push kart mafia.

1001
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: I hate to admit it, but just you know, in

1002
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: a tournament doesn't make me any sense to me. Why

1003
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: you would you know, like when you think about like

1004
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: athletic competitions, like, Okay, you know, the shoulders are an

1005
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: integral part of your golf swing. Why would I put

1006
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: like thirty pound bag on my shoulders for four hours? Like,

1007
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: how could that possibly help you.

1008
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: Four hours? That's being generous. If we're playing at tournament,

1009
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: you're probably carrying it for six Yeah.

1010
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking that the bags down on the ground

1011
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: for most, you know, for long periods.

1012
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's that's definitely. Uh, it's an

1013
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: extremely valid point. And I don't I uh people that

1014
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: push that doesn't bother me at all. I completely understand it.

1015
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: I just for me, it's just it's such a small thing.

1016
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 3: But having to like walk around every green. I've tried

1017
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: it before, and that just drives me nuts. And like

1018
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 3: having to like walk around bunkers and maneuver around and

1019
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: when you're playing early in the morning and you're pushing

1020
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: your cart and all the dude's spraying up onto you.

1021
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: Those are just a couple of things that a couple

1022
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: of times I tried it. I did use it for

1023
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: some thirty six all.

1024
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: Days in college golf, and I have to admit my

1025
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: back and shoulders felt much better at the end of

1026
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: the day. But I'm also kind I have a hardhead sometimes,

1027
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: so I stuck with carrying it. Yeah.

1028
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: I like the Sunday bag too, but the problem is,

1029
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: like I hate putting it down on the ground all

1030
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: the time. Like somebody's got to come up with one

1031
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: that's got like a good stand, you know.

1032
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's like a like a little kick thing

1033
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: that could kick out of the top of it, so

1034
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: you could I have like a little steak that keeps

1035
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: your club heads. And because the problem with Sunday bag

1036
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: is the grips get wet because most of the Sunday bags,

1037
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: water just goes right through them.

1038
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and it's just a pain of the ask

1039
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: when it's always on the ground. I just I don't know,

1040
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: but I use that for a couple of tournaments this year.

1041
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: I liked it, but I didn't like it, you know.

1042
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: So uh, you know, passe here has a pretty loaded

1043
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: question favorite former Alni and favorite member at Medina. Now

1044
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: keep in mind, I'm a former Aliini, so I'm man.

1045
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: This is he's put me in a really bad position

1046
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: with this question, asked you and I know I know

1047
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: he did it maliciously too, I would so favorite member

1048
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: at Medina. I probably I'll have to go with Patty

1049
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: on that one. He's uh, He's always a fun guy

1050
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: to see around the club and we've had some really

1051
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: awesome rounds of golf together. We played I think there

1052
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: was two springs to go. We didn't get one in

1053
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: last year, which was unfortunate, but we need to get

1054
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: another one like this and again we played. We went

1055
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: out on three one afternoon, probably keep off around three

1056
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: o'clock and just me and him. We walked eighteen holes

1057
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: and a little under two and a half hours, and

1058
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: it was just the most enjoyable, perfect day, nice brisk

1059
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: ground of golf. There was no waste of time or

1060
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: anything like that. Fortunately there was nobody in front of us.

1061
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: And he was giving me. He's given me some crap

1062
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: because I was trying a point at the time, so

1063
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: I was taking a little bit too much time on

1064
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: the green figured out my aim point line and you know,

1065
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: doing sign language to myself, figuring out how how much

1066
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: the put was going to break. But we had some

1067
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: fun out there, and that was definitely one of the

1068
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: most fun guys I've played with around there. And then

1069
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: favorite former line, I I'm sorry, I think I have

1070
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: to go with my man Alex Burge on that one.

1071
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: We had some we played some great tournaments together and

1072
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of fun to seeing each other

1073
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: at events. And we had a great championship match at

1074
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: the CDGA at Mollwood. He beat me on the last hole,

1075
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: but it was a great thirty six old final match.

1076
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: He played strop play in that event that year together too,

1077
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: and he's always been a really fun guy to play

1078
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: tournaments with and see around the events. And I know

1079
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: he's in the golf industry right now working for Excel Sports,

1080
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: I believe, so I look forward to seeing more of

1081
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: him in the future. And he's just he's an awesome guy.

1082
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: I've seen him at Radis Cup events and stuff too,

1083
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: and he's just a fun guy to be around. So

1084
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sorry to you and Papa on that one,

1085
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: but I have to go with Burge for favorite former.

1086
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: Alhini's all right, you know, no hard feelings here, but

1087
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: I think mister Mott turtleneck might be a little butt

1088
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: hurt from that one. So you know, what are some

1089
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: of your favorite holes on MEDNA three And you know

1090
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on Dokes redo of one?

1091
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: So my favorite holes on three. I think my favorite,

1092
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: my one favorite hole on the golf course is whole twelve.

1093
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: I think it's just the I know that there's some

1094
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: people don't like that hole. I think it's a little weird.

1095
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: I think the pitch of the fairway is awesome, and

1096
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: just the left to right. It's not a dog leg,

1097
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: but the whole, the entire hole kind of moves left

1098
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: to right, the ground moves left to right. There's that

1099
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: awesome lake right of the green and the holes the

1100
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: green's perched above it. I just anytime we're playing evening

1101
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: golf out there, whenever we get to twelve, it's just

1102
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: it's a really cool approach shot and you hit some

1103
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: good shots in that hole to walk away over the car.

1104
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: And then I think one also is one of my

1105
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: other favorite holes, just because that's by far the easiest

1106
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: hole on the golf course, and it's it's always nice

1107
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: when the first hole is a little driver in a wedge,

1108
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: and especially to anyone you're taken out there for the

1109
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: first time you play hole one with them and they're thinking, oh,

1110
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: this course isn't too bad. It's not too hard, and

1111
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: then the course just likes to punch in a face

1112
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: a couple of times from two through eighteen. So one's

1113
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: just a fun hole because it's a really easy starting hole.

1114
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: It's a good way to get the round started. And

1115
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: then dope of course one. I think there's definitely some

1116
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: quirks about it. There's some interesting things that he did,

1117
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: but overall, I think it's it's a really fun golf

1118
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: course and the blessing you know. Of course one was

1119
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: just a pretty uninspired design before them redo and the

1120
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: back then especially was quite boring with a bunch of

1121
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: par fours in a row. It felt like you played

1122
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: the same hole almost eighteen times out there, and I

1123
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: did have a lot of fun matches on that course

1124
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: growing up, but it was nice to have him come

1125
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: in and spice it up a little bit and give

1126
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: it a lot more character and just make it a

1127
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: lot more fun to play. Now there's some the front

1128
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: nine's awesome bell for what he said to that whole

1129
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: of the great golf will now. So yeah, I mean,

1130
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: I really there's a lot of people out there that

1131
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: are gonna that don't like what Dog did at all

1132
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: with one. I think it's kind of quirky or whatever,

1133
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: but it's not it's not a little course three like

1134
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: Course one had always been. Now it's its own unique

1135
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: golf course. And we're in a position now at the

1136
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: club where we're gonna have three unique, eighteen whole golf courses,

1137
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: which is something not a lot of other clubs in

1138
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: the country can say. So I think that's going to

1139
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,479
Speaker 1: be really cool.

1140
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, let's say, you know, I think

1141
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: Olympia used to be four, which is crazy to think about,

1142
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 2: but you know, a Dinah, Yeah, it's I think you've

1143
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: got your three is just you know, in my mind,

1144
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: it's it's really hard. I think it needs a little

1145
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: bit of character. I think everybody knows my my feeling

1146
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: for the Jones family is not one of you know,

1147
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: of warm, fuzzy feelings. So I'd love to see that

1148
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: one get, you know, a little bit of a facelift

1149
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: by someone that you know doesn't believe in just dismantling character.

1150
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: But the I'm excited to see one in two when

1151
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: it's done. But so let's use a couple of quick

1152
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: questions here, and we're running up on our fifteen, so

1153
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: we got some rapid fires from Brett. What's your favorite

1154
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: golf course? Hot Dog? I know this is an important

1155
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: question for him.

1156
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: Man, it's I'm gonna put it in the hot dogs

1157
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: family because it's not a hot dog done but Olympia

1158
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: fields further code Olympic Clubs burger dog is unbelievable to

1159
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: transmiss out there last year, and it's a hot dog shaped.

1160
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: I guess you'd call it Patty on a hot dog bun,

1161
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: but it's a burger with cheese in the middle of it,

1162
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: and it's just it's unbelievable. I had my brother was

1163
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: caddy for me out there last year, and he the

1164
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: two rounds I put out there he might have had

1165
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: in a practice line. I think he had eight or

1166
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: nine and I had I had less than that, and

1167
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: I only had three or four. But they're incredible. He

1168
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: was every time he passed a halfway house, he had

1169
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: like one in his bib and one in his hand.

1170
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: He was just chowing down him. This I think the

1171
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: best food he's ever aten. But uh yeah, for me too,

1172
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: that's definitely my best golf course hot dog I've had anywhere.

1173
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: You know, Skokie's got a really good hot dog, I

1174
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: think too. They do they split the hot dog, which

1175
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: I think is like so underrated. You know, they split

1176
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: it down the middle and then put it on the grill.

1177
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: I think that's like the you know, it's it's a

1178
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: key to a good hot dog. Yeah.

1179
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the guys out at Halfway House at course you'll

1180
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: do that too. If you tell him to the butterfly

1181
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: it for you, they'll split it and then throw it

1182
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: on the girl. That's how my dad because always got

1183
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: him done out there. So yeah, absolutely, that's a great call.

1184
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: It's uh definitely definitely spices it up a little bit

1185
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: and makes it better.

1186
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: I actually heard from my fiance who's in the ad

1187
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: world and is that hot dogs are gonna be like

1188
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: the new Burger, which I don't buy it, but that's

1189
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: what she says. So yeah, it's good good news for brus.

1190
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: I'm a huge I'm a huge burger guy too, so

1191
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: I think that's why I gravitated towards the burger Dog.

1192
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: Olympic Club because it combined combine the best you know,

1193
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: ninth pole snack and probably my favorite American cuisine of

1194
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:58,440
Speaker 1: a cheeseburger.

1195
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: So hit a home run for me there, all right,

1196
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: Olympic Club, it's on the list just for the burger Dog,

1197
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 2: not just you know, because of the great golf course.

1198
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: So what's the purest boom tower you've ever hit in

1199
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: your life? And how many alarms do you set to

1200
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning. This is from Logan and

1201
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: I just I'm curious about the purest boom tower.

1202
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: Logan he was a teammate of mine at Ohio State.

1203
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 1: He's fun, you got to have on the team. Countless

1204
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: great memories from our time together at Ohio State. But

1205
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: purest boom tower I've ever hit. I'd like to first

1206
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: clarify with a boom tower is my teammate Sean Bush

1207
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: came up with boom tower our freshman or sophomore year

1208
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: because we have this huge cell tower at the end

1209
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: of our range at Ohio State, and depending on where

1210
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: we're hitting at on the tee and what the winds

1211
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: out that day, if you hit a good enough drive,

1212
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: you can actually hit the tower on the fly and

1213
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: it makes this huge noise of the ball just rattling

1214
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: around in all the metal there. So he did it

1215
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: one day freshman year and just the all boom power

1216
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: and we just it stuck with our whole team and

1217
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: whenever a guy hit a big t shot and a

1218
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: practice round or anything like that that would always get

1219
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: called out. But the purest one I've ever hit was

1220
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: probably at Regionals last year on the last hole at

1221
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: black Wolf Front on the meadow of course, and I

1222
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: poll it was just tough win and tough te shot

1223
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: and I just sat up there and bombed a little

1224
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: cut out there, and it was it was a tough

1225
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: t shot because I knew I had a one shot lead,

1226
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 1: and that was a shot I had to navigate around

1227
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: and was able to hit one out there pretty good

1228
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: and left myself a short iron into the green instead

1229
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: of a mid or long iron. So that's definitely the

1230
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: one when I saw that question was on the docket,

1231
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: stuck out in my mind that I had to bring

1232
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: up as my purest boom tower.

1233
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, there's nothing better than hidden, just a

1234
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 2: pure golf shot under intense pressure. Yeah.

1235
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of why we practice and plays to

1236
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,480
Speaker 1: make the most of those opportunities.

1237
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. I don't know how you feel, but

1238
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: I get I'm nerveier early in rounds than later in rounds.

1239
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it definitely can depend on the circumstance a

1240
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, especially what I've always found tough

1241
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: is the first day in a big tournament, kind of

1242
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: just getting those first three or four holes out of

1243
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: the way, because those could be you know, you're the

1244
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: club maybe feels a little heavy in your hands, or

1245
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: when you're walking around at your feet feel a little lighter.

1246
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: You're just not fully comfortable in the situation yet, So

1247
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: those can be the the most nerve wracking moments of

1248
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: the toughest ones to navigate around, just waiting to get

1249
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: comfortable in the round.

1250
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's see best Illinois like as a high

1251
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 4: school junior golf tournament, Like, what's the best one that

1252
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 4: you played in?

1253
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: And just in the state of Illinois. And this is

1254
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 2: from Derek.

1255
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: I think the most memorable one for my junior golfer

1256
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: in Illinois has to be the the Medina Shriner Tournament

1257
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 1: that was held out at Medina every spring thirty six

1258
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 1: holes when I was growing up. It was on courses

1259
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: one and two one in the morning, two in the afternoon,

1260
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: and which has recently switched that I know they've been

1261
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: playing course three the last couple of years, which is

1262
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: it made me very jealous, but yeah, just everyone would

1263
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: thanks and come out, and obviously it was me going

1264
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: out to my home course to playing a tournament, and

1265
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: it was just the blast, eating lunch in the clubhouse

1266
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: in between the rounds and getting to play the two

1267
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: courses I grew up on, and it was always Course two.

1268
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: It was only sixty three hundred yards and not a

1269
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: lot of trouble on it. It's tight, but it was

1270
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: pretty short and pretty easy. But everyone seemed to play

1271
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: better in course one. And everyone got to course too.

1272
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: The greens are smaller and a little quicker, and it

1273
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: seemed to give people headaches. So it was always it

1274
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: was just a lot of fun playing that event with

1275
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: all your friends. And you know, back in high school

1276
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: and middle school, getting to miss a day of school

1277
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: for it too. It's just always good memories.

1278
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: Cool. It's I mean, I always remember junior whenever you

1279
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: got to play a great golf course was the best.

1280
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: You know, it's getting off the local munis and onto

1281
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: the country clubs was always fun. So we'll end with

1282
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: a couple quick hitters here. So golf tournament you most

1283
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: want to play in in twenty seventeen.

1284
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh well, if it's a twenty seventeen

1285
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: probably the US Open. Okay, I'd love to get through

1286
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: qualifying for that. I made it through to sectionals last

1287
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: year and didn't play that well a sectionals, but I'd

1288
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: love to have another chance at that. And I think

1289
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 1: if I'm looking at tournaments to play in this year, yeah, definitely,

1290
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: the US Open sticks out is number one on my list.

1291
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's a good one. So if you were,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you were in a PGA Tour event,

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Speaker 2: who would you most want to be paired with for

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Speaker 2: the first two rounds of your first PGA Tour event.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a really good question. Probably guys that would

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Speaker 1: that would just be a fun time to play with.

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Speaker 1: Random one, but this sticks out, Jerry Kelly. He seems

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Speaker 1: like he'd be a super fun guy to have the

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Speaker 1: first experience with it. You know, he'd make you feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable and he'd just be a relaxing guy to be

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Speaker 1: out there with. You know, it wouldn't It'd be tough

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Speaker 1: to play in a first tour event with a you know,

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Speaker 1: a huge name or a guy that is super serious

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Speaker 1: out there, because whenever you're playing a first event, whether

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Speaker 1: it was a first big amateur event from here or

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Speaker 1: usam or something, it could be you know, a little intimidating.

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Speaker 1: So being with guys that would make it easy and

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Speaker 1: as enjoyable experience as possible be awesome. So I'd say

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Speaker 1: a guy like Jerry Kelly. And this goes against everything

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Speaker 1: I just said too, but it'd also be just sweet

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Speaker 1: to play with Tiger Woods in a two event. That

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Speaker 1: would just be my dream. So I gave two exact

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Speaker 1: opposite answers to the spectrum there. But that's what I'm

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Speaker 1: sicking with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have like everything that you don't want with Tiger,

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Speaker 2: big crowds. He'd probably be a nice guy. New Tiger

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Speaker 2: is a nice guy on the golf course. Yeah. And

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Speaker 2: then so you know five horses that you most want

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Speaker 2: to check out and see in the near future, so

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of like your five bucket list places

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Speaker 2: you want to play.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one too, think shore Acres. I've never

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Speaker 1: played the Shore Acres for I'll put two Chicago ones

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Speaker 1: in their Shore Acres and Old Elms. Those are two

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Speaker 1: places that I've never been up to in the Chicago

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Speaker 1: land area and that I'd really like to check out for.

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Speaker 1: I want to head up to Sand Valley. I've always

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Speaker 1: played kind of golf Wisconsin My family's always gone up

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Speaker 1: to Kohler and Aaron Hills for some family trips, so

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Speaker 1: I think to head up to Sand Valley up there too.

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Speaker 1: It would be awesome. Another kind of Midwest one. Crystal Downs.

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Speaker 1: I've always I've heard nothing but awesome things about that place,

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Speaker 1: and it's not too far from Chicago, and that's kind

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Speaker 1: of another area course that I'd like to knock out.

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Speaker 1: And then other than that, just kind of.

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Speaker 3: The I think the biggest one on my list is

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Speaker 3: just the Cypress Point. We played out at Pebble in college,

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Speaker 3: and I'd been out and monerated before, and I played

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Speaker 3: a lot of courses in that area, but the one

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Speaker 3: that you.

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Speaker 1: Always drive by, and you know, we hopped out of

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Speaker 1: the car and walked back to the cliffs a couple

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Speaker 1: of times to check out sixteen fifteen at Cypress. It

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Speaker 1: just looks like it's heaven on earth. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: probably at the top of my list right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that place looks so good. My grandpa,

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Speaker 2: I guess, used to get he'd get this two week

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Speaker 2: he knew a member out there, and he'd get a

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Speaker 2: two week pass to play out at Cypress. Back in

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Speaker 2: the day. Like I think this was in the sixties

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Speaker 2: or seventies, and one time he had a friend come

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Speaker 2: out and like he was so pissed because his friend

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Speaker 2: really wanted to see pebble, so he had to leave

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Speaker 2: Cypress for a day to go play pebble.

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Speaker 1: And that's an awesome story. I'm jealous of my mom

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Speaker 1: there with Cyprus because I think she played either three

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Speaker 1: years in college in an event there, maybe all four years.

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Speaker 1: So she says she's played Cyprus around thirteen to fifteen times.

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Speaker 1: So that's and you know, Cypress to her, she's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've played out there quite a few times. It's not

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Speaker 1: really a big deal to her. She's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful golf course, it's a beautiful piece of property.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's Cypress Point. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't get really any better than that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: still waiting on that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too, just got it. It's a place

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Speaker 2: you just patiently wait, all right. And last question here,

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Speaker 2: who's your favorite architect alive or dead? To play.

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Speaker 1: Cheth Rayner. He just there's just something about I can't

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Speaker 1: It's just every time I go to a Seth Brainer Place.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm just gonna play a super classic golf course.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to know exactly what a few of the

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Speaker 1: holes are going to be like, I'm going to know,

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Speaker 1: you know, the kind of overall strategy of how he

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Speaker 1: wants you to play the golf course and where you

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Speaker 1: need to attack, and the holes that are going to

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Speaker 1: be available for you to make some birdies on and

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Speaker 1: the holes that you're going to have to navigate around.

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Speaker 1: So I've had pretty good success on Seth Rainer courses

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Speaker 1: in the past, and I've never really played a Seth

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Speaker 1: Rainer course that I haven't loved, so I would have

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Speaker 1: to say Rainer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean really good. Everything he said so true.

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Speaker 2: I just I got to cross another one off last

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Speaker 2: week at Mountain Lake. Just you know, can't go wrong

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Speaker 2: when you build a golf course that is centered around

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Speaker 2: you know, the greatest golf holes you know of all time.

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Speaker 2: It's just if you build your core strategy around there,

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Speaker 2: it's like really hard to mess up in my mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely awesome. Man.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, I hope everybody listening got to hear. But

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Speaker 2: give TK a follow and add them to your favorite

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Speaker 2: players On a Latin American Tour, which kicks off in

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Tk's really good Twitter follow too,

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Speaker 2: so looking forward to following along while you start your journey.

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Speaker 2: And best of luck, and we will be uh, we'll

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Speaker 2: be cheering from the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: Man, absolutely, thanks for having me on. And I love

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Speaker 1: everything you're doing with the golf course overviews and the

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Speaker 1: template holes all that stuff. It's it's awesome, and love

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Speaker 1: reading all about it. So keep doing what you're doing

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Speaker 1: with the Frida egg. I love falling along and love

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Speaker 1: reading your stuff.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, Well we'll get a game I'm in

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Speaker 2: here soon when I'm either down in Florida or up

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Speaker 2: here in Chicago, so be well.

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Speaker 1: Man, absolutely looking forward to it. Thanks again,