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Don't forget coming up in about twenty 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: eight minutes. Gary Washburg, one of the best NBA writers 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: in the nation. Of course, he writes for the Boston Globe. 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: He's the national NBA writer. We'll talk with Gary Washburn 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: coming up and of course shop talk. So our number 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: two is under way, keith Man. We got a really 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: good topic coming up here and Rob g is going 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: to get us started on. Steve Kerr had a big 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: interview in the Bay area and he said some things 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: that were pretty interested. 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: That's right, I'll be here. Molly care and Rob no problem. 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: There you go, except for she's a little bit cute. 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: This she is I I'm not gonna laugh. Shout out 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 5: to Molly Kam. Yes, big news coming down in the Bay. 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 5: Were talking about this for a couple of weeks now 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: on the show. You've been saying, Rob, for a long time, 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: you didn't like the way Steve Kerr was handling Johnathan 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: kaminga right like. You didn't like what was going on, 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 5: yo yoing back and forth on the bench. Sometimes he 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 5: play something as he doesn't, so they eventually trade him. 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 6: Right. 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: He goes to Atlanta. 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 5: In three games with the Hawks, he's averaging twenty one 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 5: and seven in twenty seven minutes a game. They're outscoring 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 5: opponents by almost thirty one points per one hundred possessions 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 5: when he plays. So, so far, so good for kaminga 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 5: in Atlanta. I'm not shocked, not shocked at all, which 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 5: led to most recently Steve Kerr appearing on the radio 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 5: ninety five to seven The Game with Mark Willard, who 50 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: shout out to Mark Willard giving us content two weeks 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 5: in a row. 52 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: My first partner here at Fox Sports Radio, Mark Willard. 53 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: So, Mark Willard never missed his show in the Bay Area. 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 4: I know you don't. 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: I've never listened to it, so I've never sorry. 56 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 5: You ain't gonna make it six years, five five years. 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: So Mark had Steve Kerr on his radio program yesterday 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 5: morning and he asked him, point blank, what do you 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 5: say to the fans in the Bay Area who points 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 5: a commander and say, see, you don't know how to 61 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 5: develop young talent. 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: Here's Steve kerr response. 63 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 7: I remember when I got to Chicago, we had a 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 7: couple of drafts and I was in my tenth year, 65 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 7: ninth year, and I asked Phil Jackson, you know what 66 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 7: he thought of the guys we drafted. He said, well, 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 7: it won't matter for a few years. And I said, 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 7: I'll come he well, because grown up grown ups win championships. 69 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 7: And it's true, it's it's really hard to come in 70 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 7: as a young player and be expected to have the 71 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 7: knowledge and skill and feel that you have to have 72 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 7: to be a championship NBA player. I would equate it 73 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 7: to just about anything else on earth. Tell me the 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 7: profession where the guy with the highest test scores of 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 7: Stanford can go and you know, be a CEO or 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 7: you know, be a partner in a firm or so. 77 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 7: It just doesn't life doesn't work that way. And so 78 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 7: I think the when I when I think about any 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 7: frustration from our fans, it's probably just coming from this 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 7: idea that that young players should should get it right away. 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 7: It just doesn't work. 82 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: That in so lame, and I'm not surprised to hear 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: that from Steve Kerr. I would say if I was 84 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Mark Willard, I would have pushed back. Steve Kerr, you're 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: talking about Phil Jackson, who had Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, I was winning championships. So yeah, they got 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: very low rated right draft picks that joined the Bulls. Okay, 88 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: all right, if you're going to do this, Keith and 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: say that adults win championships right, not rookie players, not 90 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: draft picks. Why the hell did you draft Wiseman or 91 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: Moody or Kaminga. 92 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: You should have. 93 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: Traded them right on draft night because they're not going 94 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: to help you win. 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: It's a cop out. 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: How about the idea that Steve, why can't you admit 97 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: that you can't develop young players? 98 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: When they got Weisman, they. 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Were like, oh my god, they're gonna be good for 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: twenty years. 101 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Look at that. 102 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna add them to what they already have, and 103 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: they weren't able to do anything. The more I look 104 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: at Steve Kerr's career coaching and how he's come off, 105 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: it makes me want to throw up in my mouth. 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: He's disrespectful to fans because he says to them when 107 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: he sits down in Stars and they paid four or 108 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, tough luck. I guess you know when 109 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: you just have to suck it up and you bought 110 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: the tickets and you're stuck. Now he doesn't, He isn't 111 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: able to develop lottery picks. 112 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: And then he's an enabler. 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: To Draymond Green, who he talks about adults in the room. 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: Draymond is the biggest baby out there. So what is it? 115 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: Steve Kerr, explain to me? 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: And thank god Mark Jackson got this thing started for 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: you when you picked up Steph. 118 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: And I don't go there with it. That's what it is, Keith. 119 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 8: Everybody has played that game. How many rings does he 120 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 8: have with the with the Warriors? For how many rings 121 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 8: he had with the boy? He could put a He 122 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 8: can put a ring on every hand he's been with 123 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 8: Team USA. Are we talking about Steve Smith or Steve Kerr? 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 8: Put some respect on his name. He's a man, he's sixty. 125 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 8: He's right, Rob, he's right with what he said. Now, 126 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 8: I don't care about Wiseman or Kamingo. You gotta draft 127 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 8: those guys because those are the guys you gotta draft. 128 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 8: They're rated in the draft where they are. You gotta 129 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 8: take them. 130 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: Trade them if they're not gonna hold pill. You don't 131 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: do that, and you're the Warriors. Are the Warriors? Trade 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: them for don't have to have room for. 133 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 8: The guys you have Stephan Clay and Draymond and all 134 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 8: these role players like Iguadala and like listen, Steve Kurr 135 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 8: is right though, let's let's not get too far off 136 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 8: of what he said, because you don't like the man. 137 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: He said, grown up win championships. I have nothing against him. 138 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: I think that it's a lame excuse when you're drafted 139 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: just a lot of repicts, lot of repicks, and you're 140 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: saying you can't figure out a way to get lottery 141 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: picks in the mix with a team that's already winning 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: a cop out on you. 143 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: You're a lot of teams that they don't pan out. 144 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: They don't they don't all. 145 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 8: Work in the situations in the cities and the teams 146 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 8: that they're in. And then he used Phil Jackson and 147 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 8: you didn't even take that, like he went back to 148 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 8: Phil Right and you said all this because he had 149 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 8: Jordan and Pivot. No, he had to coach those teams. 150 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 8: This is a guy that has won. This is a 151 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 8: guy that knows about winning. This is a guy that 152 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 8: knows about coaching, and he probably can identify when a 153 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 8: young guy can't get coached up, can't get developed, Not 154 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 8: gonna work, Not gonna waste my time with that. 155 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 156 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 8: I rock with Steve Kerr. When I was a wee 157 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 8: little lad, I watched Steve Kerr hit that shot. You know, 158 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 8: I think Steve Kurry probably a lot more about this. 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: I covered him when he was playing for the Bulls, 160 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: and I got all that. But there's also where's his 161 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: responsibility as a coach. 162 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: He's coaching, He's one championship. 163 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 8: They're gonna make a statue outside the building outside to 164 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 8: chase seven time. 165 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 2: He's alleged. 166 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: But Steph and Clay were all there and develop him 167 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: when he got there. He never got anybody but no, 168 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: but he They were young leadership, change the coaches, they 169 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: were young players winner, no, and and and it's a 170 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: cop out if you're listening to Steve Kerr, and he's 171 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: gonna put it off on the young kids that they 172 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out. You only win championships with grown 173 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: ups and all that kind of talk. 174 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 8: Championship over there as championship, only a championship or bust 175 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 8: over there. So we don't have time for all this. 176 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 8: We gotta you gotta be ready to play. You gotta 177 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 8: where are they now? They've got Jimmy, you know, one 178 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 8: of that man's got the you know, the knee and jams, 179 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 8: and Draymond's got the podcast and he figure out a 180 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 8: way to play kaminga. 181 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: Everybody knows the kid could play. Come on, Keith, you 182 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: know basketball. That was a fumble. He fumbled all of 183 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: these guys. 184 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 8: He sees a funblas something we don't know behind the scene. 185 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: Everybody always don't play. If you told me it was 186 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: one guy, maybe I could buy. 187 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Oh, it's behind the scenes, But it's every young guy 188 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: that they bring in. 189 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 8: He let Jordan Poole get stole off on at practice. 190 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 8: There's stuff that we don't always see behind the scene. 191 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 8: And that's another one. He didn't even wasn't even man 192 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 8: enough to discipline. Draymond Green coaches this. 193 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 7: I don't even know this. 194 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr really, Steve Carr and Mark Willan let him 195 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: off the hook. Everybody have left them off the hook 196 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: because they won a couple of championships. 197 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 198 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bound down to Steve Kerr because we 199 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: got he done. 200 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: What has he done? 201 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 8: He's got five championships as a player, He's won four 202 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 8: as a coach. He's always been around winning. I think 203 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 8: he knows a thing or two about grown ups winning championships. 204 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 8: I gotta just go back to the quote grown ups 205 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 8: win championships. He ain't got no time for the kiddie stuff. 206 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 8: And then he even put it to every other type 207 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 8: of nobody should draft. 208 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: Nobody should draft young players, right. 209 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 8: So to have to draft them, but you're gonna miss 210 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 8: more than you're gonna hit. 211 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: Okay, can we can? 212 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: I give you this, and then I want to hear 213 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: you stand on this or bow down, because how did 214 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: OKC win last year with a young team that. 215 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: Wasn't took them? No, no, no, it's still a young team. 216 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: They were the youngest team in the NBA. 217 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: So this idea and only grown ups win a championship 218 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: is bull as bull poppy cock Boulder dash. 219 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: It ain't true. 220 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 8: It's a different league now, and they ain't these guys are. 221 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 8: These guys are entering the league a little more ready 222 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 8: now and you know that's a little different comp That 223 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 8: was a one off. 224 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: Can they do it again? He said? Champion show plor No, no, no, 225 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: you're ready it again? 226 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 8: No, it ain't about I was sticking with what the 227 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 8: man said. I was sticking with what the man said, 228 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 8: grown ups win championships. No Stanford kid can come out 229 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 8: and be CEO after right away. 230 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: It takes time. You gotta learn. 231 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: You got forage age last year. Okay, see ready, twenty 232 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: five years old, that was the average. That's not growing up. 233 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Those are young kids now in this nil era. These 234 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: kids now are going to the G League, going back 235 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: to college. 236 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: It's a mess right now. I kind of understand what 237 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: they're veteran. 238 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: Gods off the bench Carusoe and Hartenstein. Come on, man, 239 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, here he is is passing the buck. 240 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: Don't blame me. I didn't do this young kid. They 241 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing. They's got a philosophy. He 242 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: got it. 243 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 8: Proud babies, that's what they are. Ask though it don't 244 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 8: be facts though. You need roman. 245 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: Feed the baby. I gotta change the baby. They don't 246 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: have time to practice. They don't know what they're doing. 247 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: Let me walk them, Let me put them in the 248 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: walker and the baby walker stroller. Come on, Steve Kerr, 249 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: these are lottery pick stop it. 250 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: I'm stopping, like Jordan said, f them kids. That's what 251 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: curR is on. 252 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: Mark Jackson gets the credit for developing the young guys. 253 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: He hasn't have a ring or no, he didn't like 254 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: what it is. 255 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: He didn't develop anybody at Golden State that's the crime 256 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: of it. Those guys were developed before he had to 257 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: develop anybody too. 258 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 8: There are some coaches like Kenny Atkinson who was looked 259 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 8: at as a developmental coach. I'm a Nets fan and 260 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 8: here's the other thing too, and they kicked him to 261 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 8: the curb when they had Katie Kyrie. 262 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: They're like, all right, that's enough, we don't need a 263 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: developmental coach. No, here we go. 264 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: Mark Jackson did all the heavy lifting, put him in 265 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: the situation to get there. And then guess how Steve 266 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Kerr's name really got built off the back of KD 267 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: because he couldn't do it. So that's why he's walking 268 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: around with those extra rings. Steve Kerr is also the 269 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: author of one of the greatest chokes in the history 270 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: of the NBA when they choked down a three to 271 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: one lead Steve Kerr zero. He doesn't develop players, he 272 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: doesn't respect fans, and he's a Draymond Green and abler. 273 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm out on Steve Kerr. 274 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: He's done nothing from me, and to get up there 275 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: and have a lame excuse in the Bay Area on 276 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: the radio is shameful. 277 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 8: He's a champ. He knows a thing or two about winning. 278 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 8: He ain't rocking with them kids. Them kids don't get it. 279 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 8: Grown ups win championships the end. 280 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: I'm with him. I hear you. He's sixty, He's a man. 281 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: Come at me. I'm a man. I'm sixty. Steve Kurtrin 282 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: knows a thing or two about it. It is what 283 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: it is. 284 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 8: He's gonna try and win again, but not with some 285 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 8: young guys coming in the NBA that don't get it. 286 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: Hey, go up eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox 287 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. 288 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: Are you buying these excuses, these lame excuses from Steve Kerr? 289 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: Are you in or out on him as a head coach? 290 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: It is the odd couple on a TV theme song Thursday, 291 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: Rob Parker, Keith McPherson. 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And when cold weather sets in, every 321 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: day aches and pains can linger. 322 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: But the Leaves got your back. 323 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: With up to twelve hours of body pain relief per dose, 324 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Leave keeps you going in the long lasting body pain relief. 325 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: This winner, try and leave use as directed from minor 326 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: aches and pains. I'll telephone number eight seven seven ninety 327 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: nine on Fox talking about Steve Kerr, who says only 328 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: grown ups win championships. He can't be bothered developing lottery 329 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: picks and all that other nonsense. 330 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: Keith is with Steve Kerr. I'm down on Steve Kerr. 331 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: Where are you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox? 332 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones. Keith. 333 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: We got tyro tyron in Tennessee. You're in the odd 334 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: couple of Fox Sports Radio. 335 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: What's up? 336 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 6: How are you ah doing? 337 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 12: Good man? Always a pleasure to be on with you. 338 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 12: Let me just say this, man, Steve, he's a great coach. 339 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 12: For man, it's a disgrace he is. He is hand 340 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 12: on talent. He's lottery picks. The last five six years 341 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 12: with Wiseman and with Kaminica, well no, I know Kamina 342 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 12: could have added something to go to say this nowhere 343 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 12: around it with a hazing Klein, with a haging Raymond 344 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 12: could have. He could have brought something, maybe extended, maybe 345 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 12: made you contenders. Wislin was a complete busser. That was 346 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 12: a top three tops. Don't think it's something for the first, 347 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 12: for the fact that he's had two many thinks the 348 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 12: last thought it years and the god man me say 349 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 12: it for him has not developed him. One's not even 350 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 12: in the land. You know what. 351 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: Don't forget but don't forget Moody. He's had three lottery pictsoy. 352 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 12: Why that's a good point. Let me say this about 353 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 12: this man, Man Johnson doesn't get the credit he desent us. 354 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 12: He may joy mine staff and claim in the gold 355 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 12: Man rock them, he an't like them. Don would have 356 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 12: done a busy were Johnson never got a chance for 357 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 12: nobody Winson. Nobody knows he's got a user. You don't 358 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 12: all gotta wonder the next ship with him and Fauch 359 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 12: and you know what happen? Mind if mat Justin has 360 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 12: got a fair chance, one more tummas, let me say 361 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 12: something cam meam would have been here to talk about 362 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 12: Mike Justin want made the mistakes? 363 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Won't any clever, no doubt man, Thank you. 364 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: I love the passion there. I love it him in Queens. 365 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim, 366 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: what's up? 367 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 7: Brawl? 368 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 13: What's up? 369 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 8: Kids? 370 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: How are you? 371 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 14: I'm just wanted to say you know, Rob, I agree 372 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 14: with you one hundred percent. He's current overrated. I've been 373 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 14: a wordst fans in high school and every every pick 374 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 14: he just throw them away. Don't don't allow them to 375 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 14: make mistakes, grow with the game, none of that. As 376 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 14: soon as they make a mistake, he pull them out 377 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 14: the game. How do you expect the lottery fixed the 378 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 14: Broye he with a young player to bro like that, 379 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 14: You can't. 380 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 6: That's not how you coach basketball. Eric sposure the same way. 381 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 6: That's why the Heat is stuck in that same playing spot. 382 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 6: The Warriors are the same thing with They need these 383 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: old coaches. Man, sometimes they need to get with the arm. 384 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 14: Develop your young players, let them play, let them. 385 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 6: Do you tell them you can't use an athletic fixed 386 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 6: non wing. 387 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: Thank you don't even make sense. It makes no sense. Tim. 388 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 6: The whole old injury, all injury, old injury. 389 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: Poone players on the Warriors, come on, man, terrible good 390 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jim, appreciate it. Andre in Massachusetts, you're on 391 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: the couple of Fox Sports Radio. 392 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: What's up, Drake, what's going on? 393 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 13: Thanks for taking the call. Listen, Steve Kerr, There's no 394 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 13: doubt about it that he was gifted a championship in 395 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 13: twenty fifteen, right, that was Mark Jackson's crew. He is 396 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 13: the one that came, you know, coin the Splash Brothers. 397 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 13: He's the one that stand down, man down, gave them 398 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 13: the mocks, he gave them the confidence, you know. And 399 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 13: Steve Curry just kind of took that team and pushed 400 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 13: them over the finish line. So UH can't give him 401 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 13: credit for the for the first championship the last championship. 402 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 13: I do feel there Steve Kerr did earn his stripes 403 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 13: on the last championship, all. 404 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: Right, But with Dre you know basketball three lottery picks, 405 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: you don't have any of those guys helping me Warriors. 406 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: I mean that that makes the three lottery picks. There 407 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: are a lottery, it's the it's a lot of reas. 408 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: But that means that a guaranteed, I know. But they're 409 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: the best of the best. That's why they're in the line. 410 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: They're the top one championships. Let me guess Katie is 411 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: the reason they wont him. Kde won those two. 412 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 8: L respect to Mark Jackson, but how come nobody else 413 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 8: let him go win him a championship? 414 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: Nobody else hired develop and bring he's. 415 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: Been blackballed out of the NBA. I mean, whether people 416 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: want to acknowledge it or not, it ain't it is, 417 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: but that's the fact. So, uh, that's why by Jacks 418 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: Curve for help man to go do your googles on 419 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr's impact on you. 420 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, I'm. 421 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 8: Just throwing in my last little bit of Steve Kerr. 422 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 8: I'm getting cooked. No, I can't win this battle the callers, 423 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 8: rob the chat. I can't win this battle defender Steve Kerr. 424 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 8: But I feel how I feel. 425 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: It's all good? All right? 426 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Gary Washburn from the Boston Globe, of course, 427 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: the national NBA writer. 428 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: Uh, we'll do that. 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Visit expresspros dot com today, joining 439 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 8: us right now. Like we told you from the Boston Globe. 440 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 8: He's a national NBA writer. It's Gary Washburn. Gary, are 441 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 8: you there? 442 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 15: I am here, guys. 443 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 11: How you doing good? 444 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 8: Gary? 445 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 12: How are you? 446 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: Buddy good? 447 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 12: Rob? 448 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 6: Good to see you. 449 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 12: A couple of weeks ago, Yes, here with the All 450 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 12: Star Game. 451 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: Plenty of seats available, but we were out there. It 452 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: was not pretty. 453 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was unbelievable how many empty seats we 454 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: were there. All Star Saturday night not a pretty picture. 455 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 15: But All Stars Saturday it was like All Stars Saturday afternoon. 456 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: That's true. 457 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 15: With early so I guess everybody was at the beach. 458 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: It was really bad. I'm gonna just jump in here right. 459 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: Let's start off for here. Obviously the news of the 460 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: day with Jason Tatum on his way back. Man, they've 461 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: held the ship together. Talk about Jason Tatum and I'd 462 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: take him at eighty percent. 463 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean he has worked seriously the last ten months. Obviously, 464 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 15: he's you know documented that and you know you can 465 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 15: watch the clips, and he has been close to being 466 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 15: back over the last few weeks and he said he 467 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 15: was going to come back at home, and it seems 468 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 15: like the sixth is the perfect date before a road trip, 469 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 15: and you know they it gives him about twenty games 470 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 15: to acclimate him back into the offense, figure out how 471 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 15: to play with certain guys he's literally never played with, 472 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 15: how to play with certain guys that have new roles 473 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 15: this year, and how to blend as well as possible 474 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 15: with Jalen Brown, who has obviously taken over as kind 475 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 15: of like the primary scores. So there's some work to 476 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 15: be done. But I think for a Celtic organization that 477 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 15: thought this year might be just as people call it, 478 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 15: a gap year or rebuild or kind of retool year 479 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 15: to get ready for next year, that's obviously not the 480 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 15: case anymore. 481 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 8: Gary, Can you speak about what we can expect. I 482 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 8: know he's not a role player, but he's got to 483 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 8: play a role right With about a month and a 484 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 8: half until the playoffs, this is a ramp up. Can 485 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 8: we expect a pitch count of minutes restriction? Like, what 486 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 8: do you expect to see just in this first game 487 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 8: or these first couple games out of him? 488 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 15: I definitely expect to see a minute restriction and probably 489 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 15: you know, a game offer two, no back to backs. 490 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 15: Just monitoring his progress, there's nothing that can compare to 491 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 15: basketball shape. So he's got to take probably five to 492 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 15: ten games of getting the premium basketball shape to get 493 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 15: his win back. So tomorrow is just going to be 494 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 15: the first step in a long road to get himself 495 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 15: ready for basically a playoff series. That's what you're trying 496 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 15: to do. You're trying to lock down the number two 497 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 15: seed in Boston, but you're they're also trying to get 498 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 15: ready and get your lineup and get everything set for 499 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 15: that first round playoff series. Because now this team has 500 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 15: got to, you know, worry about who they're going to play, 501 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 15: and it's a certainly they're likely going to be in 502 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 15: the playoffs and they playing. Maybe there was some projections 503 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 15: for playing at the beginning of the season, but now 504 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 15: they got a chance to get that second seat. So 505 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 15: there's some work to be done. But I think that 506 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 15: the Celtics are encouraged by what they've seen from catum 507 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 15: and practice and they'll bring them along slowly. 508 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Our guest is Gary Washburn, of course, one of the 509 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: best NBA writers out there. Boston Globe National NBA writer, 510 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: and I do want to ask you about Jalen Brown 511 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: and his season that he's had. 512 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: He's got to get some consideration for MVP. 513 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: Most people rode off the Celtics once Tatum was injured 514 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs, that this. 515 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: Would be, you know, a throwaway year. And here we are. 516 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: The Pistons have had this great year that everybody's raving about, 517 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: and the Celtics are only five games out with twenty 518 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: to play. I mean, I'm not saying they're going to 519 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: get the number one seed, but this is an incredible 520 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: season for. 521 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown and the Celtics. Does he get some consideration? 522 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 15: Yeah, Robert, mean you have to think he does. I 523 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 15: mean you're looking at the other candidates obviously jo Kis 524 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 15: Kate Cunningham in Detroit and SGA in Oklahoma City, and 525 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 15: you know, you maybe throwing a Jalen Brunson. But but 526 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 15: to me, he's got to be He's got to get 527 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 15: his share first place votes this team. Not much was 528 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 15: expected from this team. As you said, Tatum is out. 529 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 15: Then remember they also uh traded Christaps for Zingis let out, 530 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 15: Horford go traded through Holiday to Portland. So they cleaned house. 531 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 15: They got rid of their high salary players, they got 532 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 15: rid a lot of veterans. They relying on a lot 533 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 15: of younger guys, Debius Cada, Jordan Walsh, Ugo Gonzalez, you know, 534 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 15: guys that are not household names. And Jalen's kind of 535 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 15: taking these guys and put them on their back, and 536 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 15: then he's had a lot of help. But he's also 537 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 15: been one of those guys that you could rely on 538 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 15: for thirty points a night and maybe eight nine rebounds, 539 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 15: and he's taking care of the ball and kind of 540 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 15: you know, showing up some of his weaknesses in the past. 541 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 15: So you gotta think that he will be get some 542 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 15: real serious MVP consideration considering how well they've played with 543 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 15: him as that primary option. 544 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 8: The last time we saw Tatum on the floor was 545 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 8: against the Knicks. I'm here in New York, they're out 546 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 8: there in LA and there's a lot of conversation always 547 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 8: Knicks versus Celtics. Jalen Brown has been vocal about Knicks 548 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 8: fans and like, you know, how excited would you be 549 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 8: to see a rematch? Right because there's so much unknown 550 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 8: about what would have happened. How excited would you be 551 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 8: to see the rematch play out. If there's somehow we 552 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 8: can get Celtics versus Nicks this year to run it 553 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 8: back from last year after the Knicks kind of stole 554 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 8: that one from him. 555 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's not that outrageous. If the 556 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 15: Celtics kid number two and the Knicks kid number three, 557 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 15: and they both win their first round series, then they 558 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 15: face each other, right, so this could be a potential 559 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 15: second round series, and I think the Celtics would you 560 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 15: would like to think would be more prepared. They gave 561 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 15: away basically Games one and two in Boston and kind 562 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 15: of handed the series to the Knicks, and the Knicks 563 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 15: were the better team. Tom Thibodeaux obviously no longer to 564 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 15: coach in New York. Key out coach so Wazoo in 565 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 15: that series and they outplayed the Celtics. So the Celtics 566 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 15: obviously are looking back at the Knicks and they want 567 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 15: to get back. So I think that would be obviously 568 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 15: one of the more entertaining series Boston and New York 569 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 15: going at it. You know, Robb's been to a bunch 570 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 15: of those games. Yes, you know, they don't like you. 571 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 15: None of those teams like each other. So I think 572 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 15: it would be a great series. So yeah, let's hope 573 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 15: for that. 574 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the Pistons for the 575 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: for the great season that they've had thus far. The 576 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: one thing that scares me is that three point shooting. 577 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: Gary. 578 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: I mean, they're in the bottom third. They struggle with 579 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: the shots from the perimeter. 580 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: Can can that? 581 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: Can they overcome that and really make a playoff run? 582 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: Will let come to bite you, you know at some 583 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: point when you play playoff basketball. 584 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 15: Yeah, I think they can overcome that. I meaning they 585 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 15: got Kevin Herder from the Bulls, they got Duncan Robertson, 586 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 15: They got guys who can shoot. Tobias Harris. Kate is 587 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 15: a better three point shoot than these shows. Like that's 588 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 15: the disappointing part about Kate. The only thing that's kind 589 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 15: of led is Kate. Every time I seen him play 590 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 15: themselves and he hits them threes, but they you know, 591 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 15: his percentage is not that high. But they have shooters. 592 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 15: But I just think if they play that physical brand 593 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 15: of basketball, that jav bickersaff defensive style, that bad boys, 594 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 15: they can beat anybody. I think that's a concern. If 595 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 15: you know, they play the right kind of defensive team 596 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 15: who kind of locks down and kind of can match 597 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 15: them in the paint. But I don't know, Bob, if 598 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 15: there's a team that can match up with Beef Stu 599 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 15: and Jalen Durham. I mean, Jalen duran is a dude 600 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 15: you don't want to see in a dark gallery. I 601 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 15: mean that dude's real Detroit. I mean the same thing 602 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 15: with Beef Stue. I mean, they have a big, physical 603 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 15: team and if they get a hold of you, you know, dephysically, 604 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 15: it's gonna it's gonna be a cat fight. So to me, 605 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 15: I do think it's a concern, but I also think 606 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 15: the Pistons can overcome it. 607 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 8: Question for you after last night's game, I was in 608 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 8: here watching it, but I was live on air SGA 609 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 8: and Jalen Brunton all to talk about flopping and drawing 610 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 8: fouls and a different whistle for SGA, and then Mike 611 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 8: Brown saying, oh yeah, he's a tough cover. 612 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: Do you expect the league to do anything? 613 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 8: I really feel like there's nothing they could do but 614 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 8: down the stretching into the playoffs. Do you think there's 615 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 8: gonna be more of an emphasis on flopping and how 616 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 8: it's called how fouls are called down the stretch because 617 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 8: of this. 618 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 6: Well, also, I think that this is what STA does. 619 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 15: I mean, he gets to the free throw line. I mean, 620 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 15: here's the reason why he scored twenty points for upteam 621 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 15: consecutive games. So he gets to the free throw line. 622 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 15: That's what he does. 623 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 8: You know. 624 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 6: He he knows how to contort his body to draw contacts. 625 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 15: He knows how to yell. You know, God, I mean, 626 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 15: they didn't do that back in the day, Rob They 627 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 15: didn't jail when they took a shot. 628 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: You know, they did not, my god, not do that now. 629 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 6: Ah, you know, it's like what happened to you? 630 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 10: Man? 631 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 6: Like get up? 632 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 12: You know he's like. 633 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 15: Friday ain't even went over there? 634 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: What you're doing? 635 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 12: Like like like what you I mean? 636 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 6: Guys are screaming for the because they're trying to, you know, 637 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 6: get bring the kitchen to the contact. That's what SGJ 638 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 6: has mastered, what the game has become, and. 639 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 15: I cannot blame him for that. But the Brunton is 640 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 15: the same way Brunson uses that little shifty moves. I mean, 641 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 15: I think bruns is an amazing player for his size 642 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 15: to what he brings the table. But One of the 643 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 15: things that he brings is. 644 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 12: I will draw found, I will fall on the ground. 645 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 15: If you touch me, I will collapse. 646 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: But you know what crazy, though, Gary, is they don't 647 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: give James Harden any of that in the postseason. You know, 648 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: like the difference between when he played regular season to 649 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: postseason and and it altered how he's played, you know 650 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he was looking for call that 651 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: he never would get. It's just crazy to me that 652 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: you would change post regular season of postseason. 653 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: But I think you're right. Sga has done it, and 654 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: so is Brunson, and that's how it is. But Gary, 655 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: thank you so much, my man. We always appreciate your knowledge. 656 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 657 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 15: Hey, good to be with you, guys. 658 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: Thank you all right. 659 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: Gary Washburn, Boston Globe National NBA writer, no doubt. 660 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: All right. 661 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: Coming up next, we got a little shop talk and 662 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna be real interesting. It is the odd couple. 663 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: Rob Parker Keith McPherson in for Kelvin Washington right here 664 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, Stick and stay. 665 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 666 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 667 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 668 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: listen live. 669 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: It is the odd couple on a TV theme song. 670 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Thursday, Rob Parker, Keith McPherson in for kelvin Washington. Ready 671 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: to tackle your financial goals. Wee Bowl makes it simple 672 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: to start investing. That's right, Powerful tools, real time data, 673 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: all in one. Get started at wee bowl dot com 674 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: or download the wee Bowl app today. All right, Keith, 675 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: it is now time for shop talk. 676 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 677 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 5: Well, that's right, it is shop talk here in the 678 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 5: OC coup. Let's same when we talk about something happen 679 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 5: outside of the world of sports. 680 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: This week. 681 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: We're cheating a little bit because this story is heavy 682 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: and we had to do it. 683 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: It's right. 684 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 4: It has a sports tie in. 685 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 5: Kevin Mays you might have know who he is, former 686 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 5: Cal State Bakersfield men's basketball player and temporary assistant coach 687 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 5: is the key thing here. Guys is currently awaiting trial 688 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 5: because he is alleged, while he was coaching as a 689 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 5: temporary assistant coach, to have been pimping across four separate 690 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 5: states and is currently facing a rap sheet of eleven 691 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 5: different criminal and misdemeanor charges, including possession of automatic firearms, 692 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 5: possession of methamphetamine, intend to sell, possession of more than 693 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: six hundred images of child pornography. 694 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: Oh my, it is all bad all the time, guys. 695 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 4: Just your thoughts on this story, this bizarre and depressing story. 696 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: Keith, you want to start this one. Yeah, that took 697 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: a turn. That's not good. 698 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 8: It's not something that you can laugh off or make 699 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 8: light of. He's going to jail, and you just, you know, 700 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 8: pray for the people affected. And it's a good thing 701 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 8: that they found it out. But it's crazy. People live 702 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 8: double lives and they could be amongst us and you 703 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 8: don't know what they're doing in the dark, but it 704 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 8: comes to light, comes to light. 705 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: And when you hear the story, it's just mind boggling, 706 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, because on one hand, you're this basketball coach 707 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: and you're around youth, you know, and molding and shaping, uh, 708 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: the youth of tomorrow, right, and the youth of today, 709 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: I should say, And then you have this dark side, 710 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: like you're a pimp on your free time. 711 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 9: Really crazy, Alex you well, you know, being a former 712 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 9: pimp myself. Robin, No, I'm just saying pimpin ain't easy. 713 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 9: But I'll say this, it really is a big testament 714 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 9: to say that people's backgrounds do matter, and especially your history, 715 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 9: because a lot of the time we like to say 716 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 9: people can be reformed, people can change. We don't want 717 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 9: to judge people off their past. But I think there's 718 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 9: also something that has to be said about when you're 719 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 9: coaching youth or children or doing something in some kind 720 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 9: of an authoritive figure. This goes to police officers, et cetera. 721 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 9: I've always had a gripe that things that are so 722 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 9: important are less talked about, or encouraged or actually restrained upon. So, 723 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 9: for example, Rob, did you know like becoming a barber 724 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 9: is harder than becoming a police officer? Like these kind 725 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 9: of things, I question it. So if you're gonna be 726 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 9: a coach for a team, maybe check your background a 727 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 9: little bit, just a little bit. 728 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: It'll be something I hear you about that. Martin Wiss, 729 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: what about you? Just thoughts on this. It's just a 730 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: bizarre story. It's shameful. 731 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: I uh, you guys said a lot. 732 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 16: My thoughts go to the person who hired him as 733 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 16: a temporary head coach. What a decision. It's like, how 734 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 16: do you like, first of all, what was what was 735 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 16: a temporary basis? What was the status in which you 736 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 16: have a temporary coach in general? Right, Like it's not 737 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 16: really a job that you volunteer for that. I read 738 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 16: the story too. The guy was like committing crimes and 739 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 16: rental cars that he had rented from this like on 740 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 16: his work account. 741 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: It's like, but there's somebody not minding the store, like 742 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: I would like, serious, you have to go back and 743 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: go what was the investigation into his background? 744 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 745 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: When they hire people, you know, like like you have 746 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: to vet people to find out something Marre, did he 747 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: have a prior a rust record or something that that I. 748 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 2: Did not see. No, I mean, I'm not sure. I 749 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 2: just you know, I read the story. The details are insane. 750 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 5: They are rob g I think that's primarily the problem 751 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 5: is there was no background check of any kind of stuff. 752 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 5: I think they said, hey, we know him from our 753 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 5: basketball program. We played for us, but we like him, 754 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 5: We're going to bring him on. We got him as 755 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 5: like a player development assistant to start off with, and 756 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 5: so on and so forth. And to think, when I 757 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 5: just read the headline, I said, hey, college basketball coach 758 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 5: was pimping across four states. My first thought was, hey, 759 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 5: let's have fun with this, like, Hey, what's the worst 760 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 5: crime that you'd be willing to overlook to be a 761 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 5: coach for, like a youth team or a high school 762 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 5: team or whatever. And then as you keep reading the story, 763 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 5: you're like, well, this is not funny at all. There's 764 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 5: nothing there's nothing I can do to make this a 765 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 5: lighthearted segment. 766 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: And so I know, whenever you see the word pimping it, 767 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you want to be like 768 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: because it. 769 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 5: Was such a bizarre headline, and that's the headline. And 770 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 5: then I think if they would have put in the 771 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 5: headline temporary coach is also being charged with six hundred 772 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: counts of chop pornography, then that's a totally different conversation 773 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 5: going under the jail. Oh yeah, just I'm I wouldn't 774 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 5: be surprised, and we got a little bit of time here. 775 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 5: I would not be surprised if he ends up being 776 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 5: guilty whatever. But if this basketball program doesn't exist in 777 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 5: like two years. 778 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, whoever hired them and those people, 779 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: they're going to feel the raft as well because they're 780 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: already already done. 781 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 5: Ye article, Because cal State Bakerfield is not exactly a 782 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 5: hotbed for basketball, so they might get at 783 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: A couple our number three stick and Steak America