WEBVTT - Experimenting With Local Chapters 

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody. It's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Shop Talk number fifty seven. Welcome into the shop.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Alex Ada, I'm doing great. Bill. You're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>anything particular, just hanging around taking up space.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to buy some cigars before I go on

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<v Speaker 2>a two week trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that that that's a good call. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good call. They're back in the humidor. You can

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<v Speaker 1>pick about in a minute today, Everyboddy, we're Shop Talk

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<v Speaker 1>number fifty seven. We're going to talk about experimenting with

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<v Speaker 1>local chapters, and we hope to inspire and encourage some

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<v Speaker 1>of you guys to get involved. So Alex and I

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<v Speaker 1>are going to have a little chat in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys with talking about experimenting with local chapters, an

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<v Speaker 1>idea that I think some of you might be interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do that right after these brief messages from our

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<v Speaker 1>general sponsors. Everybody, Welcome back to the Shop number fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting with local chapters. As everybody knows that listens to regularly,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Cortez, our producer, is a wonderful guy and he

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<v Speaker 1>does a beautiful job preparing me for all the interviews

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<v Speaker 1>and doing all the work and getting all the guests

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<v Speaker 1>into a studio here Memphis and all that we do.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's also kind of nuts, and you are your

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<v Speaker 1>little nut. And he has come up with an idea

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be getting some traction with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of listeners, and so we're going to toss it out

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<v Speaker 1>there for some of you to consider as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>shop Talk number fifty seven, Alex experimenting with local chapters.

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<v Speaker 1>What in God's green earth that's going between your ears?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate these kind of episodes where I have to

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<v Speaker 2>talk a lot, but oh, bless your here we go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not everyone's wont an oscar and is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a paid speaker and like does yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But I keep getting these emails about how people feel

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for you because I pick on you too much.

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<v Speaker 1>So now's your redemption time? Oh man?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? So, as you guys know, most of our

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<v Speaker 2>impact to date, it's been by people listening to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>consuming the content on social media, our email list, and

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<v Speaker 2>then deciding to take action on your own. But what

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<v Speaker 2>if we can do more than that too? And so

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<v Speaker 2>the idea is to launch local chapters where Army members

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<v Speaker 2>can get together in a community and take action together.

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<v Speaker 2>And if some folks are probably familiar with, there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a huge decline of civic clubs like this in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, it almost feels like the Optimist Club or the

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<v Speaker 1>Moose Club or something. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I made Rotary, Lions Club, Lions all these yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're not trying to do exactly what everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else has done, So that's not you know, the point

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<v Speaker 2>of it too, and bigger picture in the country. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people probably know about Robert Putnam's book Bowling Alone. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever actually read it? Bill, No, you need to,

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<v Speaker 2>though it very much relates to I know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you got a lot on your play right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can't talk about that on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't care, but go ahead mister Putnham's book.

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<v Speaker 2>His idea was, we used to be in all these

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<v Speaker 2>bowling leagues together, and now we are not. We bowl alone,

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<v Speaker 2>and the decline of associations in America like Alexis to Tulkville,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talked about a democracy in America, So having

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<v Speaker 2>these local chapters can reinvigorate that. But what I think

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<v Speaker 2>would be really cool is, you know, imagine like here

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<v Speaker 2>in Memphis is take an example, and you have all

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<v Speaker 2>these army members here, what if we got together and

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<v Speaker 2>did stuff together once a month, once a month.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe it maybe chose like a story of one

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<v Speaker 1>of our guests that we highlight and once a month

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<v Speaker 1>their body meets and then they get together and do

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got a whole plan here. Now you're just

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<v Speaker 2>riffing off the cuff and I'm on huge. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're right though. Yeah, that's good? Is that right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'll give you a fun example. So two

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<v Speaker 2>months ago Ben and Jess Owen we featured on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>They are taking this huge abandoned building and if you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard about this, and they're making a new recovery center. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a for.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody listening if you hadn't heard the episode. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>were addicts and they have now started buying the very

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<v Speaker 1>trap houses that they were doing drugs in and all

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<v Speaker 1>nefarious kind of activities, and they're turning them into hope houses.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope from dope houses to hope houses.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying now, they bought a whole building.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's it's basically and they're being given it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they still got to raise money and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a huge medical complex. It's been abandoned for

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<v Speaker 2>like ten years in Memphis, in South Memphis, no kid, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really cool. And so they had a clean up

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<v Speaker 2>day because it's been abandoned for ten years, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went and there was like one hundred and fifty people

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<v Speaker 2>there on a Saturday cleaning it up. And honestly, the

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<v Speaker 2>energy you felt doing that with all these people who

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<v Speaker 2>feel like part of the Actually Ben calls it the

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<v Speaker 2>Owen Army. He's got his own, you know, army of

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<v Speaker 2>normal folks going on. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're listening. Come up with your own stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, the energy you felt there was amazing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and so what if we could do that in communities

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<v Speaker 2>across the country. So we're actually thinking about calling that

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<v Speaker 2>type of thing army activations. So you have these army

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<v Speaker 2>activation days that maybe you'd start with with once an

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<v Speaker 2>order and once a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then maybe every week when you do something

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<v Speaker 1>you go to boot camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, all right, I don't know, maybe not, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of us be a horrible idea most of us

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<v Speaker 2>have jobs's yeah, that's sure. Yeah, all right. So the

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<v Speaker 2>second thing we're especially excited about is giving circles. So

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember the with Wendy Steele's episode with an

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<v Speaker 2>Impact one hundred? So the way I put it is,

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<v Speaker 2>say you give ten dollars to something, Say you give

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollars to something. So you give a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars or something, even ten thousand dollars to something, you

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<v Speaker 2>probably really aren't making that much of an impact. You

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea where the money's going. You're basically just

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<v Speaker 2>giving it to their existing stuff. You don't really get

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<v Speaker 2>any reporting back. But if you can make one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars gifts, you can actually do something pretty transformative,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with it. And so what if there was

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<v Speaker 2>a whole army of normal folks who got together and

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<v Speaker 2>each gave ten dollars a month and collectively can make

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars gifts in their community, And you

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<v Speaker 2>basically would have all the nonprofits get together and pitch

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<v Speaker 2>their ideas on what to do with one hundred thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Each donor gets to vote on where the money goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and some people can still give a thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in the giving circle or ten thousand dollars, but setting

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<v Speaker 2>an even lower threshold of ten dollars a month and

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<v Speaker 2>really building this grassroots.

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<v Speaker 1>Army, that's kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>As being giver, you get a vote on the proxy

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<v Speaker 1>of what that pool of money raised goes to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can choose from any of our guests things

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<v Speaker 1>or come up with something else.

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<v Speaker 2>And as normal folks, you get to do something really

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<v Speaker 2>transformational in your community too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we especially see that as a big area

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<v Speaker 2>given you know, so the models out there in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>there's people doing this. But if you go on the

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<v Speaker 2>street and I've tested this out, like ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 2>people have never heard of giving circles.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you mean you did do an episode on

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<v Speaker 2>a note.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we steel, and I'd never heard or even considered

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<v Speaker 1>or fathomed those things. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love Wendy's model too, But also it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only for you know, women only, so we're thinking

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<v Speaker 2>here is you know, obviously you know, including men too,

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<v Speaker 2>and setting an even lower threshold rather than the thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people can joined at ten dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 2>so you too too.

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<v Speaker 1>By having local chapters, you hopefully inspire a giving circle

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<v Speaker 1>inside each chapter, or maybe all of the chapters cumulative

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<v Speaker 1>are a giving circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Each chapter will have their own giving circle.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, each chapter has on giving circle. And then each

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<v Speaker 1>chapter meets once a month like the Optimist Club or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And their meeting is engaging in the community once a month,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not the same thing every month. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>different thing that they pick. And obviously they've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of episodes of an army and normal vote to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with that, dissipate from or come up with

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<v Speaker 1>their own.

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<v Speaker 2>So another part of it that we're thinking about too,

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<v Speaker 2>is called we're calling imitation and innovation. So think about

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<v Speaker 2>all these models that we featured that are still not

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<v Speaker 2>in most cities. So back on my feet. The Homeless

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<v Speaker 2>Running Clubs is still not in Memphis. In Heavenly Piece

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<v Speaker 2>is still not in Memphis. I mean Axe Housing that

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<v Speaker 2>you're excited about the episode is actually not out yet,

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<v Speaker 2>still not in Memphis. And so there's all these models

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<v Speaker 2>that are out there that are still missing from most

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<v Speaker 2>of our communities, and what if we can come together

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<v Speaker 2>as local army members and figure out how can we

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<v Speaker 2>bring these models here in these local chapters exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cool, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were thinking about potlucks too, as we've recently

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<v Speaker 2>talked about in shot Lucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Potlucks just have to be part of every chapter, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's awesome. Yeah, referring back to an earlier shot deal. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Mentorship matching is something else we're thinking about too, So

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<v Speaker 2>trying to set a cultural norm that each of us

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<v Speaker 2>should be mentoring at least one other person you know

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<v Speaker 2>out there, and we can help facilitate that through a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of our local partners.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you envision like these chapters to have like

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<v Speaker 1>a president and a secretary and a treasurer and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a club, but it's an army and normal folks

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<v Speaker 1>club and specifically getting together to do these four or

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<v Speaker 1>five initiatives you've talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Bill. We really what you really need, though,

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<v Speaker 2>to do any of these things is one strong leader.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there needs to be somebody who really owns

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<v Speaker 2>it in a community and drives it right. I mean, your

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis you're running you know, big business. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in Oxford, Like, it can't be us from a distance

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<v Speaker 2>really running this. There needs to be someone in a

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<v Speaker 2>community who's really going to I mean you know this

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<v Speaker 2>from coaching too, right, I mean you need somebody who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to lead the thing, you know at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And do the work and recruit and grow it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can see how if you got it off

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and grow it and you got fifty hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people together from each community. You're on a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty people with each community, then you actually could do

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<v Speaker 1>some really good stuff and you're investing basically a day.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can start you know small and scale it

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<v Speaker 2>over time. Right, So you start with the giving you

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<v Speaker 2>know circle, And what's cool about that too, is uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so many people are busy, but everybody can

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<v Speaker 2>get ten dollars a month, right, So you could make

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<v Speaker 2>this impact even just doing that. So even if you

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<v Speaker 2>just started the giving circle and did you know an

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<v Speaker 2>army activation once a quarter, I mean, start small and

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<v Speaker 2>then you can build in you know, more of these

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<v Speaker 2>things over time.

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<v Speaker 1>Can the local chapter identification cards that everybody's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to carry you have my picture on.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and that seems a little arrogant, but no, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Would destroy it before it ever started. Who was to

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<v Speaker 1>carry out a card with my bug on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're fat, redheaded. So anyway, we have four people

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<v Speaker 2>already who are interested in doing this in their communities,

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<v Speaker 2>but we love to hear from more folks. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>interested and I'd love to connect on it. We're probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to start with three you know this years, will

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<v Speaker 2>have to choose that, but hopefully it's ten next year,

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<v Speaker 2>and then hopefully it just keeps scaling to one point,

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<v Speaker 2>there's hundreds of these chapters around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally growing the army, and each chapter is a

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<v Speaker 1>little platoon of the army. And you know, I could

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<v Speaker 1>I could see this eventually growing into having an annual

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<v Speaker 1>convention where aybody from the chapters come and they share

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<v Speaker 1>best practices and ideas and how this bottom up service works.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it makes service more fun too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like family doing this together, like part of

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<v Speaker 2>something I'm sure as you felt, you know, coaching and

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<v Speaker 2>part of Sigma Nu fraternity, right, I mean, those bonds

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<v Speaker 2>are there's nothing like it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're they're that's awesome. So shot talk number fifty seven. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to start experimenting with local chapters. And if

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds interesting to you, I e. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>start and lead one or just join one.

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<v Speaker 2>Email Alex right Army at normal Folks dot us.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it not Alex at normal Folks on us.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I've had other email addresses from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my day jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can email me and I'll send it to them,

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<v Speaker 1>or just email Army and normal Folks dot us and

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<v Speaker 1>you can carbon copy me or leave me out of

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<v Speaker 1>it whatever. But these these local chapters or sound like

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<v Speaker 1>something Alex is pretty pretty intent on creating.

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<v Speaker 2>And it makes a lot of sense, makes Bill, that's

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<v Speaker 2>nice here to say, Yeah, it really does.

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<v Speaker 1>And look at all the talking you did. And I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even make fun of you once.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you did, did I? Yeah, you said I

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<v Speaker 2>was weird at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird, but I'm weird too, weird and goofy and all

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<v Speaker 1>those things actually are in terms of endearment.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually like to say we're all messed up in

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<v Speaker 2>our own way. There's a more vulgar version of that

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<v Speaker 2>that I say too.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit. I'm going through. I'm messed up as a

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<v Speaker 1>soup sandwich, so nobody gets it over on me. So

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<v Speaker 1>i'd said, everybody, shop Talk number fifty seven. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to experiment with local chapters and listen, feels like something

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to be a part of, something you

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<v Speaker 1>might want to lead, something. You've got a group of

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<v Speaker 1>friends that you could get together and start one email

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<v Speaker 1>Alex at Army at normal folks dot us. Share this

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<v Speaker 1>information with friends, and let's see if we can't turn

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<v Speaker 1>this little podcast, this little movement we got into tangible

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<v Speaker 1>gatherings of people making impacts in their community. That's shop

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<v Speaker 1>Talk number fifty seven. Everybody, let's think about joining on

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<v Speaker 1>local chapters and actually moving the needle and having impact

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<v Speaker 1>anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Let's wrap this baby up, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see y'all next week.