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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Shop Talk number fifty seven. Welcome into the shop.

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Speaker 1: Hey Alex Ada, I'm doing great. Bill. You're looking at

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Speaker 1: anything particular, just hanging around taking up space.

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Speaker 2: I need to buy some cigars before I go on

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Speaker 2: a two week trip.

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Speaker 1: I thought that that that's a good call. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a good call. They're back in the humidor. You can

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Speaker 1: pick about in a minute today, Everyboddy, we're Shop Talk

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Speaker 1: number fifty seven. We're going to talk about experimenting with

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Speaker 1: local chapters, and we hope to inspire and encourage some

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Speaker 1: of you guys to get involved. So Alex and I

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Speaker 1: are going to have a little chat in front of

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Speaker 1: you guys with talking about experimenting with local chapters, an

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Speaker 1: idea that I think some of you might be interested in.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that right after these brief messages from our

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Speaker 1: general sponsors. Everybody, Welcome back to the Shop number fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: experimenting with local chapters. As everybody knows that listens to regularly,

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Speaker 1: Alex Cortez, our producer, is a wonderful guy and he

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Speaker 1: does a beautiful job preparing me for all the interviews

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Speaker 1: and doing all the work and getting all the guests

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Speaker 1: into a studio here Memphis and all that we do.

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Speaker 1: But he's also kind of nuts, and you are your

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Speaker 1: little nut. And he has come up with an idea

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Speaker 1: that seems to be getting some traction with a lot

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Speaker 1: of listeners, and so we're going to toss it out

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Speaker 1: there for some of you to consider as well. So

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Speaker 1: shop Talk number fifty seven, Alex experimenting with local chapters.

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Speaker 1: What in God's green earth that's going between your ears?

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Speaker 2: I hate these kind of episodes where I have to

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Speaker 2: talk a lot, but oh, bless your here we go,

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Speaker 2: you know, not everyone's wont an oscar and is you know,

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Speaker 2: a paid speaker and like does yeah?

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Speaker 1: But I keep getting these emails about how people feel

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Speaker 1: sorry for you because I pick on you too much.

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Speaker 1: So now's your redemption time? Oh man?

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Speaker 2: All right? So, as you guys know, most of our

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Speaker 2: impact to date, it's been by people listening to the podcast,

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Speaker 2: consuming the content on social media, our email list, and

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Speaker 2: then deciding to take action on your own. But what

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Speaker 2: if we can do more than that too? And so

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Speaker 2: the idea is to launch local chapters where Army members

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Speaker 2: can get together in a community and take action together.

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Speaker 2: And if some folks are probably familiar with, there's been

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Speaker 2: a huge decline of civic clubs like this in the country.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was going to.

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Speaker 1: Say, it almost feels like the Optimist Club or the

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Speaker 1: Moose Club or something. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I made Rotary, Lions Club, Lions all these yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're not trying to do exactly what everybody

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Speaker 2: else has done, So that's not you know, the point

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Speaker 2: of it too, and bigger picture in the country. Some

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Speaker 2: people probably know about Robert Putnam's book Bowling Alone. Have

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Speaker 2: you ever actually read it? Bill, No, you need to,

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Speaker 2: though it very much relates to I know, I know

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Speaker 2: you got a lot on your play right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't talk about that on the air.

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Speaker 1: Don't care, but go ahead mister Putnham's book.

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Speaker 2: His idea was, we used to be in all these

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Speaker 2: bowling leagues together, and now we are not. We bowl alone,

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Speaker 2: and the decline of associations in America like Alexis to Tulkville,

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Speaker 2: you know, talked about a democracy in America, So having

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Speaker 2: these local chapters can reinvigorate that. But what I think

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Speaker 2: would be really cool is, you know, imagine like here

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Speaker 2: these army members here, what if we got together and

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Speaker 1: And maybe it maybe chose like a story of one

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Speaker 2: So I got a whole plan here. Now you're just

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Speaker 2: riffing off the cuff and I'm on huge. I know

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Speaker 2: I mean I'll give you a fun example. So two

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Speaker 1: Everybody listening if you hadn't heard the episode. These guys

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Speaker 1: I hope you're listening. Come up with your own stuff.

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Speaker 2: type of thing army activations. So you have these army

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then maybe every week when you do something

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Speaker 2: second thing we're especially excited about is giving circles. So

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Speaker 1: Each donor gets to vote on where the money goes.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and some people can still give a thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: of what that pool of money raised goes to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you can choose from any of our guests things

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Speaker 2: And as normal folks, you get to do something really

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Speaker 2: given you know, so the models out there in the country,

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Speaker 2: And I love Wendy's model too, But also it's you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, people can joined at ten dollars a month,

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Speaker 1: By having local chapters, you hopefully inspire a giving circle

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Speaker 2: Each chapter will have their own giving circle.

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Speaker 2: bring these models here in these local chapters exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's really cool, I do.

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Speaker 2: And we were thinking about potlucks too, as we've recently

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Speaker 1: Potlucks just have to be part of every chapter, I know,

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Speaker 2: Mentorship matching is something else we're thinking about too, So

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Speaker 2: trying to set a cultural norm that each of us

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Speaker 2: should be mentoring at least one other person you know

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Speaker 1: So do you envision like these chapters to have like

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Speaker 1: like a club, but it's an army and normal folks

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Speaker 1: five initiatives you've talked about.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Bill. We really what you really need, though,

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Speaker 2: to do any of these things is one strong leader.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there needs to be somebody who really owns

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Speaker 2: Memphis you're running you know, big business. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: in Oxford, Like, it can't be us from a distance

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Speaker 2: community who's really going to I mean you know this

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Speaker 2: from coaching too, right, I mean you need somebody who's

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Speaker 1: And do the work and recruit and grow it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And you can start you know small and scale it

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Speaker 1: Can the local chapter identification cards that everybody's gonna have

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Speaker 2: It, and that seems a little arrogant, but no, we.

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Speaker 1: Would destroy it before it ever started. Who was to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fat, redheaded. So anyway, we have four people

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Speaker 1: It's literally growing the army, and each chapter is a

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it makes service more fun too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: something I'm sure as you felt, you know, coaching and

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Speaker 1: No, they're they're that's awesome. So shot talk number fifty seven. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: Email Alex right Army at normal Folks dot us.

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Speaker 1: Why is it not Alex at normal Folks on us.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've had other email addresses from you know,

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Speaker 1: But you can email me and I'll send it to them,

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Speaker 1: it whatever. But these these local chapters or sound like

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Speaker 2: And it makes a lot of sense, makes Bill, that's

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Speaker 1: And look at all the talking you did. And I

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Speaker 2: I think you did, did I? Yeah, you said I

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Speaker 1: Weird, but I'm weird too, weird and goofy and all

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Speaker 2: I actually like to say we're all messed up in

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Speaker 1: A bit. I'm going through. I'm messed up as a

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Speaker 1: Alex at Army at normal folks dot us. Share this

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Speaker 1: this little podcast, this little movement we got into tangible

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Speaker 1: gatherings of people making impacts in their community. That's shop

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Speaker 1: Talk number fifty seven. Everybody, let's think about joining on

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Speaker 1: local chapters and actually moving the needle and having impact

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Speaker 2: That's it. Let's wrap this baby up, all right.

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Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.