WEBVTT - Destination LOVE with Peter Weber 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.800 This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:04.680 with on our radio. 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.760 Hey everyone, welcome back to the almost Famous podcast. I 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:13.360 am flying solo today. You'll get the pun in a second. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.599 So I am here with pilot Pete. So I guess 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.880 I'm not flying solo. You are my co captain. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:21.200 I'm your copilot. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:25.640 Let's do it, Peter, are you Are you captain yet 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:26.640 or are you co captain? 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.560 Still? No, I'm still first officer. So I am three stripes. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.559 Hopefully in the near future. I'd say, like maybe the 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.200 next two to three years. I probably plan on trying 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.000 to put my upgrade in and then that's all dependent 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.200 on it. There's open positions like in la Is where 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.640 I probably want to stay. So uh yeah, two the 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.360 three year mark is kind of what I have. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.560 My site said on has all the shows that you've 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.959 done over the past couple of years kind of put 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:54.040 you back in your career. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.280 No, no, So it's what's really nice about the airline 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.800 industry is everything's predicated office seniority. So the day I 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.400 was hired, like and since I was hired May twenty fifth, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.800 twenty twenty one, so that date will follow me my 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.399 entire career. Until I turned sixty five and I have 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:13.240 to retire, and then so I can. Essentially, you can 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.880 pick up a full schedule, you can pick up overtime 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.319 if it's within your far limits, or I can drop trips, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.759 but that doesn't have any bearing on career progression. All 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.880 that matters is your seniority number, and if it's senior 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.160 enough to take an open position, you can get it. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.639 Okay, that's great. I'm glad that you've been literally able 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:36.160 to become a reality star on so many different platforms. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.040 Now we're going to talk about your new show, Destination 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.959 X in a minute. It's on NBC and it's hosted 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.600 by Jeffrey Dean Morgan, which is really really cool. But 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.800 first we have we have some juicy stuff. So we 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.240 recently had Rachel Rekia, a fellow pilot, on our podcast 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.720 and the question was, if you can go on any 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.400 Bachelor's season that wasn't the one that you came from Clayton, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:06.280 what would your choice be? And let's roll the audio anyway. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:06.800 I'll start. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:13.320 I would be on Peter Webber season because he's sexy 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:19.720 and we're both pilots. Let's Rachel, you know it's funny. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.080 I heard something about that. That's that's cool. Well, I 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.160 appreciate that. It's very sweet of her to say so, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:24.760 because you. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.120 Guys have that in common and you do follow each 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.560 other on Instagram. Have you gotten back and forth at 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:30.200 all about that. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.440 No, We've never had like a discussion like that. The 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.800 only I've only we only hung out like a handful 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.840 of times in person. I think the last time I 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.560 saw Rachel was I want to say it was in 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.560 Miami for our babble. I think it was our buzzle. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.240 I saw her out there, but uh, yeah, we gotta 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.239 we gotta connect out in LA. I think she's still 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.079 flying her. She kind of like. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.799 Put that, I think she still flies. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.640 She is okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.760 So when you guys have I've seen each other in 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.880 real life, like, has she called you sexy? 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.200 No? To be honest, no, all that stayed very very platonic. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.160 I think it's. Yeah, that's not to start any rumor. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.679 That's all been very very platonic. But I do appreciate that. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:15.720 It's very sweet to say. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.440 I do feel like you could be asked by ABC 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:26.360 The Bachelor again to be Bachelor, because you know, in 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.839 recent history, I think that you and Joey have been 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.760 the ones that have garnered the most attention. And Joey 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.400 seems I think he's going to make it down the 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:41.200 aisle with Kelsey and you are still single. So what 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:42.680 would you think if they were to come to you 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.680 again this is like five years removed. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.560 Well, of course would come out here. I actually am 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.080 not single anymore, so. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.440 We're bringing Yes, this. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.800 Is uh, I guess kind of yeah, this is very 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.600 very very new, like blessing right now. You know, I 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.960 love it. Yeah, I mean to be very honest and like, 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.280 I'm really blessing right now. Oh my god. Yeah, it's 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.880 very very new, very very fresh. Obviously gonna you know, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.920 want to keep it very private, and you know, kind 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.520 of figured we probably get into a little bit of that, 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.960 but put any like, yeah, rumors, I guess aside for 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.640 any any bachelor type comeback. Hopefully there is never the 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.720 need for that, because I'm very excited and I am 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.440 very hopeful. So, oh my god, we will see what happens. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.800 You just moved back to LA. Did this girl have 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:32.880 anything to do with the move? 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.000 No? No, And it's so funny because I literally so 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.760 I was in New York for the last like four 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.440 years and I, you know, Kelly and I had gone 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.960 back on on and off a little bit during that time, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.760 but majority of it was all single, and you know, 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.279 I always wanted a relationship with It's no no secret obviously, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:53.640 but you know it's never going to be someone of 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.880 course anything. But all my friends, they were so funny. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.680 It was they were like all predicting when I was 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.279 going to come back to La, Like, dude, the second 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.080 you get back, you're it is kind of like we 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:02.960 just know you're going to find someone, You're gonna settle 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.560 down and it's just all gonna work. And I was like, 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.800 I would love that, that would be great, and they 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:11.159 were spot on. They were spot only literally the first day. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.960 The first day, Yeah, first day's not crazy. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:21.760 Okay, so I'm assuming it wasn't an apupdate then, No, No, it. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:27.800 Was in person. It was a beautiful old fashioned meet up. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.600 And yeah, I I really like I would I don't 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.680 want to, like just because it's like so new and 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.960 everything kind of just like keep it more private. But yeah, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.400 definitely really excited. And it's funny how my friends really 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.280 predicted it and they all called it and who would 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.920 have thought. Literally the first day but kind of funny 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:44.920 how life works out that way. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.800 Can you at least tell us where you met her, Like, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.960 was this like a cute a meet cute at a 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.120 coffee shop or something? 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.839 It was not that we met. It was actually on 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.359 a on a trip on a well a trip in 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:00.440 l a kind of thing. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.760 Yeah, okay, all right, well we'll let you have your 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:09.000 privacy now a little a little bit. And maybe that 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.720 makes sense as to why Kelly recently said when you 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.400 guys saw each other at Coachella that you said that 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.920 she was like this sister that you never had. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:26.120 I'm I meant that in the most endearing way, like true, true, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.240 and sure, I mean, what are you gonna do now? 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.120 I can't take it back, But truly it was, and 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.440 she knows that, like I've seen her since and everything 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.760 like it. It was the most endearing I was trying 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.800 to make as a compliment. It was, you know, obviously 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.080 have so much respect for her and obviously love for 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:43.800 her that you know will never go away like that, 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.480 and yeah, we just you know, I try. It wasn't 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.159 for a shortage of try and write. And you know, 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.120 sometimes people work relationship, why sometimes they don't. Sometimes it's 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.160 just friends. And I guess if you want to look 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.080 at it a weird way, you can misconstrue it. But 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.120 it was not anything like that. I was just trying 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:00.599 to it was trying to be in here in comment. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.760 And I say this thinking that you and Kelly that 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.160 truly have a friendship beneath all the romance. Like I 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.520 think that you really have that foundation. So you said 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:15.440 that you've seen her since and you have this girlfriend. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.760 Does the girlfriend at all think this friendship is weird? 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.360 Because I personally, being part of this bachelor world, I 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.880 think that it's totally legit that you would have a 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.679 friend in Kelly first and foremost. Does she feel weird? 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.240 No, I honestly no, just I think just a lot 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:38.560 of like honest communication and you know, just talks. I 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.240 think I've made it like very clear like and then 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.119 you're right, Kelly and I do have like just a solid, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.240 solid friendship. And again that's kind of where that comment 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.120 came from. I guess I know how it can be 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.240 like misconstruer made it look weird, but you know, I 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:55.440 think she she understands and like there's no worries there whatsoever. 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.360 There's no like drama or anything like that, which is 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.679 awesome and like I really appreciate that too. So again, 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.040 we Kelly and I, like we've been broken up for 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.520 a while. You know, she she's had a very serious 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.280 relationship post me and everything, so you know, there's been 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.560 a lot of time to like heal and move on, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.840 and you know, obviously always wish the absolute best for her, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.440 but there's like there's no drama like that and all involved, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.600 like you know, moving forward with my current situation. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:27.040 Okay, that's good. And Kelly was is currently being shipped 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.080 with Jason Tarctic. The fandom wants them to be together. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.200 What do you think about them together? You were in 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.520 the same house as them during Coachella. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:44.200 And I because that's a weird thing to talk about. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.120 I it wouldn't be like weird for me, Like and 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.240 it may sound odd, but it really wouldn't. I both 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:57.000 you know, to be completely crazy, like I, they're both 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.120 very they could work, Like honestly, I could see it. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.160 Like they both are you know, I think similar people 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.360 in like certain regards. And again, like when I think 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.040 of both of them, I think, like the first thought 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.680 that really come into my mind is like it's just 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.040 respect both ways and like I look up to both 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.240 of them in a lot of different aspects of life, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:22.160 and yeah, I zero hard feelings if that, if that 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.599 ever happened, that ever came to be. You know, I 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.560 don't really know where exactly that stands, but yeah, I 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.600 guess I'm happy that I can say that too. Like I, 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.720 you know, I would want everyone to be happy, and 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.079 if if that ends up being the case, you know, great, 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:38.199 If not, I think they'll be great friends. But yeah, zero, 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:39.880 zero hard feelings on the side of it. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.080 When they're together, do they like feel the pressure to 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.000 be flirty together because that's what people are rooting for. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.360 I honestly, like, I don't want to speak for them, 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.199 but I honestly think it's maybe being played up a 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.640 little bit more than it is. Like if if I 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:59.199 had to guess, like that's my impression, so yeah, I don't. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.040 I don't like, No, I don't see them, you know, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.960 turning it on or something or flirting with each other 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.319 feeling they need to do that. But I think it's 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:06.840 being played up a little bit more than it is. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.040 If I had a guess, Yeah. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.840 Has your mom Barb met the new girl? 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:17.920 Not yet? Not yet? Yeah, not yet. This is like so, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.679 like I said, like, we met like very early on, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.280 but you know, getting together has been a much more 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:22.800 recent thing. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.600 So did she watch you on the Bouchelor? 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.679 No, okay, that's probably a good thing. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:31.600 Is she tempted to watch back? 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.559 Now it's not going to. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.800 You're like block like eye to the Apple and well, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.480 I think apples where you can always stream every season. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.719 I don't know where yours Elsier season might be. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.559 But yeah, no, I probably I think the healthiest thing 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.240 is probably not to not to do that. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:11:05.520 But yeah, okay, so you are on this new show 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:11.400 Destination X. I think that there. It seems obvious for 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:15.760 me to think that your wonderful game play on Traders 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.439 played a role in you being on this new show. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.080 I think, so, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised by that. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.760 I you know, obviously same network with NBC and with 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.080 with Peacock. But I mean for me, going on the 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.440 Traders is like, you know, obviously, you know, like going 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.160 on the whole Bachelor experience and whatnot, it was such 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.880 a unique experience in its own right, but I doing 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.839 the whole Traders thing really opened my eyes, like the 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.360 whole gaming world and like how much I really love 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:47.920 that and just it's definitely more my niche. You know, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.040 even if I wasn't with someone I don't, I would 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.760 never really do a love show again. Just that's not 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.280 my thing. And yeah, I think I just found my niche. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.800 I love it. I'm extremely competitive, you know. I think, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.840 you know, some success and traders probably helped me with 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.640 this next opportunity. And this was just one like I 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.720 for sure like never could have said no to is 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:06.960 right up my alley. Just the whole aspect of travel 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.840 and how passionate I am about that. Yeah, it was 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.040 kind of felt like I was like made for this 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:13.840 specific one. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.600 If Ben were here, he would say that Wells was 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.520 too good, has too much of a mind for traders, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.839 and that's why he got eliminated so early. People didn't 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.120 want him. There you and Wells both in the same 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:27.880 trader's house. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.680 What happens ooh ooh, you know what, I really don't. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.600 I gotta like, I gotta meet Wells more. I really 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.079 don't know Wells that well. It's interesting. I think he 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:42.320 obviously was like the bananas of my season, and I 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.800 think coming in as like probably a threat, it obviously is. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.319 You know, if you follow TV and follow stuff that 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.000 well done. You can tell you's the very there's like 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.560 a very intelligent person and very sharp and that is 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.120 that can definitely be kind of maybe a turn off 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.439 for you know, contestants in a castle, you're trying to 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.560 compete with them like that. That seems like competition and 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.920 that seems like I think I think Kim and Bananas 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.800 definitely kind of played a similar role in that. So 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.800 I think if I played with Wells in a future season, 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.560 I would I don't know how I would go about that. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.600 I think my mind's like spending like a million miles 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.120 an hour here. I don't know. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.080 Well, what about Gabby? How are you? How did you 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.680 do you know Gabby at all? Personally? Did you expect 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.440 her to do as well as she did? 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.880 No? Also, honestly, I first I knew the most was 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.200 Dylan that went on that season. We had kind of 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:35.880 he had called me up and we chatted a little 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.280 bit before he left and tried to give him just 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:39.360 any advice that I could. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:40.840 You did you did well? 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.960 You did? He won? Yeah, he killed. He played an 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.360 incredible game. Gabby though, she surprised me like no other. She. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.959 I think she's the perfect blend of just of smarts 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.960 but also flying under the radar, you know, has the 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.360 perfect personality for like reality TV. They can also maybe 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.520 distract the little little bit from how intelligent she really 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.280 is and what kind of a game she's really playing 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.840 under the radar. So she's like, in my opinion, like 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.400 the perfect blend for I mean, obviously she won as well, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.000 so I would love to play with Yeah, with all 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:13.320 of them, it'd be sweet if like to do like, 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.040 you know, an all star kind of season at some point. Yeah, 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.199 cool games, it's a blast. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.280 So you went from that show hosted by Alan coming 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.920 Big Star to Jeffrey Dean Morgan in this show and 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.200 that's cool. So how much interaction did you have with 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:31.320 both of them? 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.000 So Alan's funny, I've gone to aland a little bit 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:38.560 more post show. It was, you know, more after everything 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.560 was already filmed. Like we did a couple of fun 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.520 So he's got this club called Club Coming in the 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.040 Lower East Side in Manhattan, and so he would host 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.760 a bunch of like watch parties. So we'd go there 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:49.600 and it was fun to just like kind of like 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.440 have a couple of nights like just let loose and 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.440 we're not really filming anything and just have fun and show. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.440 So I got to know him a little bit better there, Jeffrey. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.520 It was crazy. We actually bonded and he has a 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.640 bunch of tattoos, and he has like a bunch of 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.760 finger tattoos, and we're like on this one probably the 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:10.160 coolest challenge I think I got to do on the 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.400 show on Destination X. But we're like having some downtime 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.040 and I'm like looking at his tattoos. I'm like, all right, 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:17.960 I'm gonna try to like bond with him, so like, hey, 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:18.920 I have a tattoo as well. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.640 That is the easiest way to start a conversation with 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.280 somebody who's talking about the meeting behind their tattoos. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.880 Yeah, it's so true though, And he had a bunch 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.720 of finger tattos. So I showed him mine and mine's 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.120 like the twelve for the Seahawks and he's from Seattle. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.200 Didn't know it, and he's a diard Seattle Seahawks man. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.240 So we started like connecting over that, and then we 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.880 both got invited. This is post show. Had no idea 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.360 either one of us was going. We got invited to 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.600 the Seahawk game when the Seahawks are playing the Jets 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.040 in New York and we both show up and we're like, 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.280 we're sitting right next to each other, like no freaking way, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.040 like one of the odds of this. So it was 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.520 kind of like a full circle moment. He's a really, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.800 really cool dude. He's the perfect guy, perfect host for 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:56.480 this kind of show. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.680 So tell us about the show. What's the premise and 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.720 how you come into play because people are going to 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.560 have to watch a few episodes to see you come in. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.760 Yes, So premise of this show is it's the ultimate 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.440 adventure game. It's ultimate. Remember like the game like back 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.160 when we were like elementary school, Like where in the 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.960 world is Carmen that computer game? Yeah, Karma Sino, that's 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.160 what I forget our last name. It's it's pretty much 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.240 like that, but you put a game board all across 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.840 Europe and everything's fair game and you get in a 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.840 bus with however many contestants are left at that point, 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.160 the bus has all fogged out windows, you can't see outside. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.080 The only thing you can see is sun. That's the 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.720 only thing you can tell, like from the bright light, 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:41.440 but anything else you can't see. And the whole premise 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.240 is Jeffrey essentially takes us all around Europe and puts 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.960 us in certain cities, you know, for every episode, and 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:49.880 we have to guess where we're at. And how do 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:51.840 you do that. It's you got a couple of challenge 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.320 options throughout that episode that week for that episode, and 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.600 if you win the challenge, you get information. And that 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.440 information obviously is gold, and it's up to you how 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.000 to share it, if you want to share it, but 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.280 also if you want to decipher it, because not all 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.679 the information you're getting this accurate, and that's where the 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.080 twist comes in. So there could be red herrings out 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.480 there that can be a complete distraction, or it could 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.119 be legit information and so puts a lot of different 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.159 kinks in it and twists and turns. But it's all 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.760 about just creating alliances and trusting your gut, using your knowledge, 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.760 using any skills you have to give yourself the most 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.320 educated guess of where you're at in Europe. And then 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.879 at the end of every week, a certain amount of 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.840 people get selected to go to what's called a map room. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.040 It's in the bus and we go to the map room. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.400 We have to put our X down wherever we think 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.439 we are, and the person that's furthest away from that 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.560 from the correct location gets booted for that week, and 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.800 then you go so on and so on until the finale. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:51.160 So Ultimate Guessing Game. It's a little bit of Amazing Race, 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.919 but a whole different twist huge. It's got the travel 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.440 of Amazing Race to like the social social aspect game 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.479 of Traders guessing there too, and just alliances, And honestly 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.840 it's it's I think it's first that it's kind I've 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.760 seen anything out there that's quite like this. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.960 Do your skills as a pilot help you out figuring 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:12.800 out where you are? 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.240 I had, Yeah, there was a couple instances. I honestly 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.359 thought it would have been more. But the main things 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.600 that like I brought from the flying aspect, I used 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.879 them like celestial navigation as much as possible throughout it. 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:29.080 So again that's dependent on having to have a clear 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.800 night and be able to see the north star, but 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.520 and you to be outside at some point. But if 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.960 I could see that, I could measure roughly my latitude 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.560 of where I was. So going into the game, I 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.280 kind of had you know, some key cities marked out 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.240 of what their latitude was and had that memorized, and 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.800 so I would use that information to compare with other 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.240 stuff that i'd gotten and other information I'd gathered from, 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.199 you know, anyone that I was constantly working with to 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.800 like give myself the best guess. So it helped me 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.600 in that aspect, and there was one time where it 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:03.119 came in super clutch. I recognized a anytime we were 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.640 new airports, obviously, I would like, you know, my alert 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.680 would go up a little bit, and I recognize the 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:12.080 departure corridor. We have what's called SIDS Standard Instrument Departure procedures, 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:13.600 so when you take off out of like a big airport, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.199 every airplane follows the same course, and I recognize a 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.200 certain departure procedure I'd done a couple of years prior, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.200 and that was super clutch for me because I at 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.439 that point was very very lost and very confused, and 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.760 so that was that was huge. So I would say 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.680 those are the two biggest ways that the piloting aspect 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:31.480 helped benefit me. 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.360 Oh my gosh, that's so cool. You must have felt 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.840 very like special, and you must have felt like you 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.920 I would have felt like, oh, I'm cool, I'm smart. 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.399 I just felt lucky. At that point, because this the 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.040 hard part about this show is like and there's a 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.200 lot like almost every place you'll go through and you'll 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.560