1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with on our radio. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome back to the almost Famous podcast. I 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: am flying solo today. You'll get the pun in a second. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: So I am here with pilot Pete. So I guess 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm not flying solo. You are my co captain. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: I'm your copilot. 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Let's do it, Peter, are you Are you captain yet 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: or are you co captain? 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: Still? No, I'm still first officer. So I am three stripes. 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: Hopefully in the near future. I'd say, like maybe the 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: next two to three years. I probably plan on trying 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: to put my upgrade in and then that's all dependent 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: on it. There's open positions like in la Is where 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: I probably want to stay. So uh yeah, two the 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: three year mark is kind of what I have. 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: My site said on has all the shows that you've 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 2: done over the past couple of years kind of put 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: you back in your career. 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: No, no, So it's what's really nice about the airline 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: industry is everything's predicated office seniority. So the day I 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: was hired, like and since I was hired May twenty fifth, 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, so that date will follow me my 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: entire career. Until I turned sixty five and I have 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: to retire, and then so I can. Essentially, you can 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: pick up a full schedule, you can pick up overtime 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: if it's within your far limits, or I can drop trips, 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 3: but that doesn't have any bearing on career progression. All 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: that matters is your seniority number, and if it's senior 30 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: enough to take an open position, you can get it. 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 2: Okay, that's great. I'm glad that you've been literally able 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: to become a reality star on so many different platforms. 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: Now we're going to talk about your new show, Destination 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: X in a minute. It's on NBC and it's hosted 35 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: by Jeffrey Dean Morgan, which is really really cool. But 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: first we have we have some juicy stuff. So we 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: recently had Rachel Rekia, a fellow pilot, on our podcast 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: and the question was, if you can go on any 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: Bachelor's season that wasn't the one that you came from Clayton, 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: what would your choice be? And let's roll the audio anyway. 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: I'll start. 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: I would be on Peter Webber season because he's sexy 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: and we're both pilots. Let's Rachel, you know it's funny. 44 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: I heard something about that. That's that's cool. Well, I 45 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: appreciate that. It's very sweet of her to say so, 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: because you. 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: Guys have that in common and you do follow each 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: other on Instagram. Have you gotten back and forth at 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: all about that. 50 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: No, We've never had like a discussion like that. The 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: only I've only we only hung out like a handful 52 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: of times in person. I think the last time I 53 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: saw Rachel was I want to say it was in 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: Miami for our babble. I think it was our buzzle. 55 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: I saw her out there, but uh, yeah, we gotta 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 3: we gotta connect out in LA. I think she's still 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: flying her. She kind of like. 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: Put that, I think she still flies. 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: She is okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 60 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: So when you guys have I've seen each other in 61 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: real life, like, has she called you sexy? 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: No? To be honest, no, all that stayed very very platonic. 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: I think it's. Yeah, that's not to start any rumor. 64 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 3: That's all been very very platonic. But I do appreciate that. 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: It's very sweet to say. 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: I do feel like you could be asked by ABC 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: The Bachelor again to be Bachelor, because you know, in 68 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: recent history, I think that you and Joey have been 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: the ones that have garnered the most attention. And Joey 70 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: seems I think he's going to make it down the 71 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: aisle with Kelsey and you are still single. So what 72 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: would you think if they were to come to you 73 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: again this is like five years removed. 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: Well, of course would come out here. I actually am 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: not single anymore, so. 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: We're bringing Yes, this. 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: Is uh, I guess kind of yeah, this is very 78 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: very very new, like blessing right now. You know, I 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: love it. Yeah, I mean to be very honest and like, 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm really blessing right now. Oh my god. Yeah, it's 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: very very new, very very fresh. Obviously gonna you know, 82 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: want to keep it very private, and you know, kind 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: of figured we probably get into a little bit of that, 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: but put any like, yeah, rumors, I guess aside for 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: any any bachelor type comeback. Hopefully there is never the 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: need for that, because I'm very excited and I am 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: very hopeful. So, oh my god, we will see what happens. 88 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: You just moved back to LA. Did this girl have 89 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: anything to do with the move? 90 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: No? No, And it's so funny because I literally so 91 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: I was in New York for the last like four 92 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: years and I, you know, Kelly and I had gone 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: back on on and off a little bit during that time, 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: but majority of it was all single, and you know, 95 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: I always wanted a relationship with It's no no secret obviously, 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: but you know it's never going to be someone of 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: course anything. But all my friends, they were so funny. 98 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: It was they were like all predicting when I was 99 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: going to come back to La, Like, dude, the second 100 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: you get back, you're it is kind of like we 101 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: just know you're going to find someone, You're gonna settle 102 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: down and it's just all gonna work. And I was like, 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: I would love that, that would be great, and they 104 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: were spot on. They were spot only literally the first day. 105 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: The first day, Yeah, first day's not crazy. 106 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm assuming it wasn't an apupdate then, No, No, it. 107 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: Was in person. It was a beautiful old fashioned meet up. 108 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, I I really like I would I don't 109 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: want to, like just because it's like so new and 110 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: everything kind of just like keep it more private. But yeah, 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: definitely really excited. And it's funny how my friends really 112 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: predicted it and they all called it and who would 113 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: have thought. Literally the first day but kind of funny 114 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: how life works out that way. 115 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: Can you at least tell us where you met her, Like, 116 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: was this like a cute a meet cute at a 117 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: coffee shop or something? 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: It was not that we met. It was actually on 119 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: a on a trip on a well a trip in 120 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: l a kind of thing. 121 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, well we'll let you have your 122 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: privacy now a little a little bit. And maybe that 123 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: makes sense as to why Kelly recently said when you 124 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: guys saw each other at Coachella that you said that 125 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: she was like this sister that you never had. 126 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: I'm I meant that in the most endearing way, like true, true, 127 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: and sure, I mean, what are you gonna do now? 128 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: I can't take it back, But truly it was, and 129 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: she knows that, like I've seen her since and everything 130 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: like it. It was the most endearing I was trying 131 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: to make as a compliment. It was, you know, obviously 132 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: have so much respect for her and obviously love for 133 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: her that you know will never go away like that, 134 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: and yeah, we just you know, I try. It wasn't 135 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: for a shortage of try and write. And you know, 136 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: sometimes people work relationship, why sometimes they don't. Sometimes it's 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: just friends. And I guess if you want to look 138 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: at it a weird way, you can misconstrue it. But 139 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: it was not anything like that. I was just trying 140 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 3: to it was trying to be in here in comment. 141 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: And I say this thinking that you and Kelly that 142 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: truly have a friendship beneath all the romance. Like I 143 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: think that you really have that foundation. So you said 144 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: that you've seen her since and you have this girlfriend. 145 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: Does the girlfriend at all think this friendship is weird? 146 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: Because I personally, being part of this bachelor world, I 147 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: think that it's totally legit that you would have a 148 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 2: friend in Kelly first and foremost. Does she feel weird? 149 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: No, I honestly no, just I think just a lot 150 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: of like honest communication and you know, just talks. I 151 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: think I've made it like very clear like and then 152 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 3: you're right, Kelly and I do have like just a solid, 153 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: solid friendship. And again that's kind of where that comment 154 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: came from. I guess I know how it can be 155 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: like misconstruer made it look weird, but you know, I 156 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: think she she understands and like there's no worries there whatsoever. 157 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: There's no like drama or anything like that, which is 158 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 3: awesome and like I really appreciate that too. So again, 159 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: we Kelly and I, like we've been broken up for 160 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: a while. You know, she she's had a very serious 161 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: relationship post me and everything, so you know, there's been 162 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: a lot of time to like heal and move on, 163 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: and you know, obviously always wish the absolute best for her, 164 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: but there's like there's no drama like that and all involved, 165 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: like you know, moving forward with my current situation. 166 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. And Kelly was is currently being shipped 167 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: with Jason Tarctic. The fandom wants them to be together. 168 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: What do you think about them together? You were in 169 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: the same house as them during Coachella. 170 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: And I because that's a weird thing to talk about. 171 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: I it wouldn't be like weird for me, Like and 172 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: it may sound odd, but it really wouldn't. I both 173 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: you know, to be completely crazy, like I, they're both 174 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 3: very they could work, Like honestly, I could see it. 175 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: Like they both are you know, I think similar people 176 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: in like certain regards. And again, like when I think 177 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: of both of them, I think, like the first thought 178 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: that really come into my mind is like it's just 179 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: respect both ways and like I look up to both 180 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: of them in a lot of different aspects of life, 181 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: and yeah, I zero hard feelings if that, if that 182 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 3: ever happened, that ever came to be. You know, I 183 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: don't really know where exactly that stands, but yeah, I 184 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: guess I'm happy that I can say that too. Like I, 185 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: you know, I would want everyone to be happy, and 186 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: if if that ends up being the case, you know, great, 187 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: If not, I think they'll be great friends. But yeah, zero, 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: zero hard feelings on the side of it. 189 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: When they're together, do they like feel the pressure to 190 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: be flirty together because that's what people are rooting for. 191 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: I honestly, like, I don't want to speak for them, 192 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: but I honestly think it's maybe being played up a 193 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: little bit more than it is. Like if if I 194 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: had to guess, like that's my impression, so yeah, I don't. 195 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: I don't like, No, I don't see them, you know, 196 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: turning it on or something or flirting with each other 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: feeling they need to do that. But I think it's 198 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: being played up a little bit more than it is. 199 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: If I had a guess, Yeah. 200 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: Has your mom Barb met the new girl? 201 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: Not yet? Not yet? Yeah, not yet. This is like so, 202 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: like I said, like, we met like very early on, 203 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: but you know, getting together has been a much more 204 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: recent thing. 205 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: So did she watch you on the Bouchelor? 206 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: No, okay, that's probably a good thing. 207 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: Is she tempted to watch back? 208 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: Now it's not going to. 209 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: You're like block like eye to the Apple and well, 210 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: I think apples where you can always stream every season. 211 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 2: I don't know where yours Elsier season might be. 212 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I probably I think the healthiest thing 213 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: is probably not to not to do that. 214 00:10:50,400 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, so you are on this new show 215 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: Destination X. I think that there. It seems obvious for 216 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: me to think that your wonderful game play on Traders 217 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: played a role in you being on this new show. 218 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: I think, so, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised by that. 219 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: I you know, obviously same network with NBC and with 220 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: with Peacock. But I mean for me, going on the 221 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: Traders is like, you know, obviously, you know, like going 222 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: on the whole Bachelor experience and whatnot, it was such 223 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: a unique experience in its own right, but I doing 224 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: the whole Traders thing really opened my eyes, like the 225 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: whole gaming world and like how much I really love 226 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: that and just it's definitely more my niche. You know, 227 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: even if I wasn't with someone I don't, I would 228 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: never really do a love show again. Just that's not 229 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: my thing. And yeah, I think I just found my niche. 230 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: I love it. I'm extremely competitive, you know. I think, 231 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: you know, some success and traders probably helped me with 232 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: this next opportunity. And this was just one like I 233 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: for sure like never could have said no to is 234 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: right up my alley. Just the whole aspect of travel 235 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: and how passionate I am about that. Yeah, it was 236 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: kind of felt like I was like made for this 237 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: specific one. 238 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: If Ben were here, he would say that Wells was 239 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: too good, has too much of a mind for traders, 240 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: and that's why he got eliminated so early. People didn't 241 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: want him. There you and Wells both in the same 242 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: trader's house. 243 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 3: What happens ooh ooh, you know what, I really don't. 244 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: I gotta like, I gotta meet Wells more. I really 245 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: don't know Wells that well. It's interesting. I think he 246 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: obviously was like the bananas of my season, and I 247 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: think coming in as like probably a threat, it obviously is. 248 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: You know, if you follow TV and follow stuff that 249 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: well done. You can tell you's the very there's like 250 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: a very intelligent person and very sharp and that is 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: that can definitely be kind of maybe a turn off 252 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: for you know, contestants in a castle, you're trying to 253 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: compete with them like that. That seems like competition and 254 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: that seems like I think I think Kim and Bananas 255 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: definitely kind of played a similar role in that. So 256 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: I think if I played with Wells in a future season, 257 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: I would I don't know how I would go about that. 258 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: I think my mind's like spending like a million miles 259 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: an hour here. I don't know. 260 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: Well, what about Gabby? How are you? How did you 261 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: do you know Gabby at all? Personally? Did you expect 262 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: her to do as well as she did? 263 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: No? Also, honestly, I first I knew the most was 264 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: Dylan that went on that season. We had kind of 265 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: he had called me up and we chatted a little 266 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: bit before he left and tried to give him just 267 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: any advice that I could. 268 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: You did you did well? 269 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: You did? He won? Yeah, he killed. He played an 270 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: incredible game. Gabby though, she surprised me like no other. She. 271 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 3: I think she's the perfect blend of just of smarts 272 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: but also flying under the radar, you know, has the 273 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: perfect personality for like reality TV. They can also maybe 274 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: distract the little little bit from how intelligent she really 275 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: is and what kind of a game she's really playing 276 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: under the radar. So she's like, in my opinion, like 277 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: the perfect blend for I mean, obviously she won as well, 278 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: so I would love to play with Yeah, with all 279 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: of them, it'd be sweet if like to do like, 280 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: you know, an all star kind of season at some point. Yeah, 281 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 3: cool games, it's a blast. 282 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: So you went from that show hosted by Alan coming 283 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: Big Star to Jeffrey Dean Morgan in this show and 284 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: that's cool. So how much interaction did you have with 285 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: both of them? 286 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: So Alan's funny, I've gone to aland a little bit 287 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: more post show. It was, you know, more after everything 288 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: was already filmed. Like we did a couple of fun 289 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: So he's got this club called Club Coming in the 290 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: Lower East Side in Manhattan, and so he would host 291 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: a bunch of like watch parties. So we'd go there 292 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: and it was fun to just like kind of like 293 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: have a couple of nights like just let loose and 294 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: we're not really filming anything and just have fun and show. 295 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: So I got to know him a little bit better there, Jeffrey. 296 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: It was crazy. We actually bonded and he has a 297 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: bunch of tattoos, and he has like a bunch of 298 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: finger tattoos, and we're like on this one probably the 299 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: coolest challenge I think I got to do on the 300 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: show on Destination X. But we're like having some downtime 301 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like looking at his tattoos. I'm like, all right, 302 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to like bond with him, so like, hey, 303 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: I have a tattoo as well. 304 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: That is the easiest way to start a conversation with 305 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: somebody who's talking about the meeting behind their tattoos. 306 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so true though, And he had a bunch 307 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: of finger tattos. So I showed him mine and mine's 308 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: like the twelve for the Seahawks and he's from Seattle. 309 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: Didn't know it, and he's a diard Seattle Seahawks man. 310 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: So we started like connecting over that, and then we 311 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: both got invited. This is post show. Had no idea 312 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: either one of us was going. We got invited to 313 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: the Seahawk game when the Seahawks are playing the Jets 314 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: in New York and we both show up and we're like, 315 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: we're sitting right next to each other, like no freaking way, 316 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: like one of the odds of this. So it was 317 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: kind of like a full circle moment. He's a really, 318 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: really cool dude. He's the perfect guy, perfect host for 319 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: this kind of show. 320 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: So tell us about the show. What's the premise and 321 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: how you come into play because people are going to 322 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: have to watch a few episodes to see you come in. 323 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: Yes, So premise of this show is it's the ultimate 324 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: adventure game. It's ultimate. Remember like the game like back 325 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: when we were like elementary school, Like where in the 326 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: world is Carmen that computer game? Yeah, Karma Sino, that's 327 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: what I forget our last name. It's it's pretty much 328 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: like that, but you put a game board all across 329 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: Europe and everything's fair game and you get in a 330 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: bus with however many contestants are left at that point, 331 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: the bus has all fogged out windows, you can't see outside. 332 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: The only thing you can see is sun. That's the 333 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: only thing you can tell, like from the bright light, 334 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: but anything else you can't see. And the whole premise 335 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: is Jeffrey essentially takes us all around Europe and puts 336 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: us in certain cities, you know, for every episode, and 337 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: we have to guess where we're at. And how do 338 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: you do that. It's you got a couple of challenge 339 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: options throughout that episode that week for that episode, and 340 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: if you win the challenge, you get information. And that 341 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: information obviously is gold, and it's up to you how 342 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: to share it, if you want to share it, but 343 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: also if you want to decipher it, because not all 344 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: the information you're getting this accurate, and that's where the 345 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: twist comes in. So there could be red herrings out 346 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: there that can be a complete distraction, or it could 347 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: be legit information and so puts a lot of different 348 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: kinks in it and twists and turns. But it's all 349 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: about just creating alliances and trusting your gut, using your knowledge, 350 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: using any skills you have to give yourself the most 351 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: educated guess of where you're at in Europe. And then 352 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: at the end of every week, a certain amount of 353 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: people get selected to go to what's called a map room. 354 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: It's in the bus and we go to the map room. 355 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: We have to put our X down wherever we think 356 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: we are, and the person that's furthest away from that 357 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: from the correct location gets booted for that week, and 358 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: then you go so on and so on until the finale. 359 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 3: So Ultimate Guessing Game. It's a little bit of Amazing Race, 360 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 3: but a whole different twist huge. It's got the travel 361 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: of Amazing Race to like the social social aspect game 362 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 3: of Traders guessing there too, and just alliances, And honestly 363 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: it's it's I think it's first that it's kind I've 364 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: seen anything out there that's quite like this. 365 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: Do your skills as a pilot help you out figuring 366 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: out where you are? 367 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: I had, Yeah, there was a couple instances. I honestly 368 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: thought it would have been more. But the main things 369 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: that like I brought from the flying aspect, I used 370 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: them like celestial navigation as much as possible throughout it. 371 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: So again that's dependent on having to have a clear 372 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: night and be able to see the north star, but 373 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: and you to be outside at some point. But if 374 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: I could see that, I could measure roughly my latitude 375 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: of where I was. So going into the game, I 376 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: kind of had you know, some key cities marked out 377 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: of what their latitude was and had that memorized, and 378 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: so I would use that information to compare with other 379 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: stuff that i'd gotten and other information I'd gathered from, 380 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 3: you know, anyone that I was constantly working with to 381 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: like give myself the best guess. So it helped me 382 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: in that aspect, and there was one time where it 383 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: came in super clutch. I recognized a anytime we were 384 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: new airports, obviously, I would like, you know, my alert 385 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: would go up a little bit, and I recognize the 386 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: departure corridor. We have what's called SIDS Standard Instrument Departure procedures, 387 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: so when you take off out of like a big airport, 388 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: every airplane follows the same course, and I recognize a 389 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: certain departure procedure I'd done a couple of years prior, 390 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: and that was super clutch for me because I at 391 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: that point was very very lost and very confused, and 392 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: so that was that was huge. So I would say 393 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: those are the two biggest ways that the piloting aspect 394 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: helped benefit me. 395 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's so cool. You must have felt 396 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: very like special, and you must have felt like you 397 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: I would have felt like, oh, I'm cool, I'm smart. 398 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: I just felt lucky. At that point, because this the 399 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: hard part about this show is like and there's a 400 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: lot like almost every place you'll go through and you'll 401 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: think there's no way in the world like this setting 402 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: or this topography is in this country. And it is though, 403 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 3: and they do, like the creators that they showed it 404 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: such a good job of finding like such uniques in 405 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: each country, and like nothing's obvious, like people think this 406 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: game is this is the hardest thing I've ever done. 407 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: And so I was off. Believe me, I was off 408 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: a lot too, and you know, it's very humbling to 409 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: like realize, holy I was damned, Like this alliance just 410 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 3: may have saved me there or whatnot. But yeah, in 411 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: that case, I was really really stoking happy that I 412 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: finally got something because I was pretty lost at that point. 413 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: I guess most people out there listening, we're probably like, okay, 414 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: but if you go buy a restaurant, you're going to 415 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: see a menu, You're going to see street signs with 416 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: the language. How do they hide that from you? 417 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: You don't, So nothing's really there is a handful of 418 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: times where and you're only there after a challenge or 419 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: an elimination kind of round has been completed. There's only 420 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 3: a handful of times where you're really in like an 421 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: area with a lot of other people, like most of 422 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: the places. And that's what's kind of cool too about 423 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: the show, Like the shots are just going to be 424 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: epic and so stunning because it's just some of the 425 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: most beautiful landscape that Europe has to offer. That's where 426 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: we were spending most of our time. It wasn't like 427 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: in a specific town or a city where you would 428 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 3: have access to license like I remember researching like all 429 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 3: license plates and like and flags, brushing up on that, 430 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: but that would have been too easy, right, So they 431 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 3: you're always more it's more secluded, except for like a 432 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: handful of times where and you'll see how that makes 433 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: sense in the game. 434 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 2: What's bus life like with these guys. 435 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: Very difficult, a lot different than like a trader's aspect, 436 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: just because you have zero privacy. You're close quarters with 437 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: each other all the time, you know you have you're 438 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: sleeping on the bus daytime on everything's on the bus. 439 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: You're traveling hours every single day to get to the 440 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: next spot, which made it difficult. Like in Traders, you 441 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: could you wanted to have a talk and you wanted 442 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: to have a chat with you know, one person or 443 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: a crew here, and you wanted to get some privacy, 444 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: you go walk outside or you go into a room 445 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: and close the door. Here, you can't do that, like 446 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: you literally it's a lot of whispering. What was cool though, 447 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: is eventually, like as the game kind of progress, everyone 448 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: kind of got a common understanding that might listen, everyone's 449 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: in this together. It sucks for everyone, like no one 450 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 3: can only chat. Let's like give each other the respect 451 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: to like go and have private talks, like not trying 452 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: to butt in or be that guy. So it made 453 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: it a little bit easier towards the end, we kind 454 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: of all understood how to play it. But also, yeah, 455 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: I mean it's bus life, so it's you know, crame 456 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: quarters and just a different different experience than you know, 457 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: living in a mansion on The Bachelor or asshole in 458 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: the Traders. 459 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: In a tam my question that everybody loves to know 460 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: about bus life, did you have to tell the driver 461 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: when you had to poop? 462 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: We had everything? Well, we were fully like stocked everything. 463 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: We had a bathroom, showers, everything. 464 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: You can do. Number two Yeah, okay. 465 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: Good, you wouldn't you wouldn't want to, but I can 466 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: get really comfortable real quick, but you could if you 467 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: had to, if it was an emergency. 468 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 469 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: So you and Janey are the two celebrities from this show. 470 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: She's from Love Island, USA, and you two come in 471 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: together toward you know, not in episode one. I'll just 472 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: let people know that no spoilers, but not in episode one. 473 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: Why would they just pick two celebrities to reality stars 474 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: to join this cast of Not to be rude in 475 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: any way, but like of normies. 476 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I think you kind of 477 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: saw that that that format. So there's also Josh Josh Martinez. 478 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: He met him after the fact. He had I guess 479 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 3: we already episode two, but he had left episode one, 480 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: so we actually didn't get to see him. He was 481 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: I think he was big Brother and the Challenge, and 482 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: so there was three of us, and I don't know, 483 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: I think you kind of saw that format and Traders 484 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: season one you kind of had like a split thing. 485 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, just yeah, it's it's a different take. 486 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: It's it's a different format. You know. Maybe there's just 487 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: who knows, like storylines that we had from that or 488 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: assumptions to be made from players because of you know, 489 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 3: people's past, you know experiences. Who knows, but I think, yeah, 490 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 3: it went, it went great. It was there was like 491 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: really no issue with that one. 492 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we are so excited to watch this show. 493 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: This is awesome. Thank you for explaining concept like that. 494 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: It's really really fun. Yeah, speaking of travel, are our 495 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 2: producer who is so scared of flying? The woman hasn't 496 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: flew flown since nineteen ninety nine. No, yes, she couldn't 497 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: go to Ben's wedding. She couldn't get to my wedding. 498 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: We've known it for almost a decade. HALLOAI News Sugarvin. Yeah, 499 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I know she's not alone out there. Lots 500 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: of people won't fly, but like she won't even be 501 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: medicated to fly. It's sad. It's sad she's missing out 502 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: on some of life. And now she's particularly well, she's 503 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 2: feeling findicated after like so many like close calls and 504 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: of course that awful crash and the Potomac a few 505 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 2: months ago. What's going on with air travel? Do you 506 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: think that there's anything different? You think we're just hearing 507 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: about it more? 508 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: Listen, air travel is you guys? I'm not going to, 509 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 3: you know, say anything you haven't heard before. Air travel 510 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: is the safest form of transportation out there by far. 511 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't even compare when you compare it to cars, trains, 512 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: more just whatever it is. There's nothing safer than air travel. 513 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: You obviously, it's some really really sad and devastating you know, 514 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: news from some of those you know, unfortunate accidents that occurred. 515 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 3: You know, I can't speak too much on on all that, 516 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not in like the we call it 517 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: NTSB National Transportation Security Board. They're the ones that like 518 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: have the full investigation on that and they know everything. 519 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: But it's it's tough. If there's anything I can say, listen, 520 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: it's that, you know, it's unfortunate with every accident though 521 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: in this anything in life, any type of transportation, it 522 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: makes it safer moving forward. It's obviously horrible that ever 523 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 3: happened in the first place, but we always there's something 524 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: to learn, and I can honestly tell you, like I 525 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 3: I have zero fear of flying, you know if I 526 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: fly obviously all the time for work, for you know, 527 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 3: pleasure to get you know, to get places too. Like 528 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: it's there's no reason to be scared. It's not like 529 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: there's this you know, crash down of ATC now all 530 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: of a sudden isn't working or airplanes aren't working anymore. 531 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: It's nothing like that. It truly isn't. And I know 532 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 3: it's just unfortunate, really unfortunate timing with stuff that's happened. 533 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: But I really hope that people, you know, trust in, 534 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 3: you know, in the training we all do you know, 535 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 3: whether it's ADC, pilots, fly attendants, everyone, mechanics, everyone that's involved. 536 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 3: It's such rigorous testing and consistent training on an annual basis. 537 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: There's I you know, I know people are gonna be terrified, 538 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: and I get that, like someone like Amy, and it's 539 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: it's a fear, and you know they're they have every 540 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: right to have that fear. But I promise you flying 541 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: it extremely safe. And I would not just be saying 542 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: that if I had any doubt in my mind that 543 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: wasn't the case. And it still is by far the 544 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: safest form of transportation that you can ever do. 545 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: Reagan is my hometown airport, being from Northern Virginia. I 546 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 2: always have heard I've always heard that it's one of 547 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: the airports that pilot's most dread flying in and out 548 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: of because of like the no fly zone and for 549 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: some reason I remember, like the Washington Monument or something 550 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: like that. Do you have you flown in and out 551 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: and like, do you find it to be an annoying airport? 552 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 3: I know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't use those words for it. 553 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: It's just definitely a complex airport because you had a 554 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: lot of really restrictive prohibited airspace, so you can't fly 555 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: over with obviously the White House, a lot of the 556 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: monuments there, so you have a specific departure again, kind 557 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: of get into what I was talking about with you know, 558 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: sid's standard instrument departure procedures. It's very strict procedures flying 559 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: out of there, and when you have to make specific 560 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: turns to not overfly you know, a certain sensitive areas. 561 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: To be honest, I enjoy that. I enjoy, you know, 562 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: kind of being in it, and I don't like, I don't. 563 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 3: I don't really think a pilot would say like they 564 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: shy away from that. I think, you know, if pilot's 565 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: talking about shining away from something, it's probably not shying away. 566 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: That's not the right word, but kind of like being 567 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: whatever it is yeah, is more like airports with like 568 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: just a lot of delays and like going in and 569 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: where you know it's going to be, you know, just 570 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: because there's so much congestion on the field. But as 571 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 3: pilots were never you know, the skill level that we 572 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: keep in like the proficiency that we keep at all times, 573 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: there's never a case where we're going into worried or 574 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: nervous of are we going to be able to handle this. 575 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: We're always always qualified and ready to handle whatever situation 576 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: is going to we're going to encounter. So yeah, with Reagan, again, 577 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: yes there are complex procedures there, but we're trained to 578 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: do all that and we wouldn't be flying into that 579 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: airport still if that wasn't the case. So hopefully this 580 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: can kind of like you know, ease some fears with 581 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: with people flying. But I get it it's a sensitive 582 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: topic right now, especially with stuff that's been on the news. 583 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for that, Peter. It's it's nice to have a 584 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: pilot so that they like that challenge rather than a 585 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: dread it. They dread delays though and crowded airports, which 586 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: ones top of mind for you. 587 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: Let's see here, probably my favorite airport to fly into well, 588 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: it's always been in San Diego. I love flying in 589 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: San Diego, love flying into LaGuardia. I don't get to 590 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: do those too often now because I'm mainly all international. 591 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: Atlanta has a lot of delays. That's just you know, 592 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: a nature of the beast. That's, you know, I think 593 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: the biggest airport in the in the country. I'll probably say, 594 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: I guess maybe Atlanta, but I don't really fly that 595 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: much anymore. I'm not domestic. 596 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, you're not. You were Delta one point. 597 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: I was. Yeah, I flew three years for Delta and 598 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: then not through at United. 599 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: Great and United is what your dad has retired from, right. 600 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're retired three years ago, almost three years 601 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: ago at the day I got That's what I got 602 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: to do is retirement flight. 603 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, three years ago. Wow, I was flying 604 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: and that's not even my life. 605 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: Much some three years ago now and since then, Jack, 606 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: my little brother, he now flies for us too. We've 607 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: actually been able to do a trip. We actually flew 608 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: to Shanghai together. So that was a cool bucket list moment. 609 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: No way, that's so cool. I love how close your 610 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: family is and you just became an uncle because he 611 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: had a baby girl, Willow. 612 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: Yep, little Willow funkl I got funkle duties going on. 613 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: So he is absolutely precious and has definitely definitely done 614 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: something to me. You know, you hear people say it 615 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: to you like, oh, you're gonna love being an uncle 616 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: or an aunt, and it's definitely it's cool, you know, 617 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: obviously my little brother, but I look up to him 618 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 3: in so many ways and just seeing the father that 619 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: he's become to Willow and like the love that he 620 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 3: has for her, it's just such a beautiful like I'm 621 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: so proud of him, and I like, I just want 622 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 3: to be you know. I know he has an amazing 623 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: model like in our dad and you know, our parents, 624 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: Mom and dad. But I can't wait too uh, I 625 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: can't wait for that day and hopefully it's not not 626 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: too far, you know, around the corner. So, but he's 627 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: definitely inspireming. 628 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. My sister is just obsessed with our boys. 629 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: She's our third parent basically, and I'm always wondering because 630 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: she has she's so close to them and she talks 631 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: to them every single day when she has kids, Like, 632 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: is it going to be different for me? Because I 633 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: was the parent first, and then the aunt. 634 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 3: Is she older or younger? 635 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: She's two and a half years younger. So staying again, right, yeah. 636 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: Well so you're you're I'm the older one. My little 637 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: brother has the older one. 638 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but I had the kids first, Yes, 639 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: I just yeah, I don't know. I'm like, I'm going 640 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: to feel the same way about your kids as you 641 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: have had the opportunity to feel about mine because you 642 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: didn't have kids, you know, I guess. 643 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting take. I mean, I would probably 644 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 3: assume it might be a little bit different just because 645 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 3: it's your first time being around them. But yeah, now 646 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with Willow. She is absolutely adorable and uh 647 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 3: yeah excited. That was a huge reason too to come 648 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: back to LA which has been great, just to be close. 649 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: And I knew that, you know, they were pregnant, so 650 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: they were having Willow on the way and timing just 651 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: kind of worked out. So it's been great. 652 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: So you are a West Coast boy through and there. 653 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love New York City. 654 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: I have been able to go back a couple of 655 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: times since, and of course now it's you know, the 656 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: best time of the year. Out there and I'll love 657 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: forever have a love in my heart there. But yeah, 658 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up in LA I grew up 659 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: at her West Coast, so it's good to be back. 660 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm in like a different area now, so it's cool. 661 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: It's like it's something new still and getting my bearings straight. 662 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, being close to the family has definitely been nice. 663 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, guys. Well, the new show Destination X 664 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: new episodes on Tuesdays, ten ninth Central on NBC and 665 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: it will stream I'm assuming the next day on Peacock Pilot. Pete, 666 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: you're killing it. I assume you kill it again on 667 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: the show. I don't know anything, and we wish you 668 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: the best of luck with the new girl and with 669 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: you know, United continuing with that and Uncle life, and 670 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: we're just so happy for you. 671 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Always great connecting. 672 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: Yes, until next time, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys. 673 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 674 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.