WEBVTT - Chargers Weekly: Biggest Difference-Makers On 2025 Bolts

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<v Speaker 1>Late fifteen ten touched Upuck. Welcome to Chargers Weekly. Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>I got a chat going on the substack that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the other day breaking down film a first round pick

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<v Speaker 3>stuff going on over there and would obviously appreciate everyone

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<v Speaker 3>heading over there to listen, to watch, and to hang

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we start with kind of what's There's really

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot going on, but there is Phase two

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Have you learned anything since the draft about

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<v Speaker 1>this team? Signings non signings depth, the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>added a wide receiver on a rookie tryout, and Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of what's happening in the Daniel Popp Rise

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<v Speaker 1>as you look at the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so out at Phase two practice earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of moseying about the sideline looking at guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one big thing was like this whole Zion

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson the center thing I've been talking about since February

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<v Speaker 3>was an idea and now we saw it in practice,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least I did for the first I'm on

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday with him actually snapping balls to Justin Herbert. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>fascinated to see what happens there as far as his transition,

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<v Speaker 3>if their idea of what they think is going to

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<v Speaker 3>happen actually materializes what happens on the interior. McKai Beckton

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<v Speaker 3>is really big. That's another thing that jumps out. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, obviously, you know, my mind always goes to

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<v Speaker 3>the offensive line first, but you know, you start envisioning

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<v Speaker 3>Mkai Beckton and Joe Alt double teaming defensive linemen on

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<v Speaker 3>the right side of that line in the run game,

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<v Speaker 3>and your imagination starts to run wild a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you look at these receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you know, you see Justin Herbert throwing routes against air,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to a couple of these rookies.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at Aronde Gadson their fifth round pick.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you look at all these explosive pieces they

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<v Speaker 3>added to the offense, and you start thinking about, okay, like,

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<v Speaker 3>how different is this going to look this year compared

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<v Speaker 3>to last year when it was basically the Ladd mcconukee

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<v Speaker 3>show and not much else. You know, how is Justin

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<v Speaker 3>Herbert going to be able to attack down field, which

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when we've seen him at his best, that's it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's it's really being able to tack with

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<v Speaker 3>with players who can access the deep part of the

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<v Speaker 3>field and then you know, Joe Hortiz and Jim Harbob

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<v Speaker 3>said it. But you see the defensive lineman out there.

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<v Speaker 3>You see that group working with defensive line coach Mike Elston,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are big and they are deep, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really curious to see among that group like who really

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<v Speaker 3>like takes over and becomes the guy. You know obviously

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, we had the same kind of questions

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<v Speaker 3>heading into last year and it was ended up being

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<v Speaker 3>poon Afford, But you could you could you could tell me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, five different guys that becomes sort of like

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<v Speaker 3>the guy in that group who you know is getting

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<v Speaker 3>the most playing time, producing the most. It could be

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<v Speaker 3>Teer Tart, could be Jamark Caldwell, you could tell me,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be Deshaun Hant. You know, I really like

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<v Speaker 3>the way that he played on film for Miami against

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<v Speaker 3>the Run. So just a few things there, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of you look around the practice field and

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<v Speaker 3>you're all right, looks a little bit different, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of potential, you know in some of

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<v Speaker 3>these groups with them that they've made and how they've

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<v Speaker 3>sort of restructured the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of the one thing with this particular regime

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<v Speaker 1>or iteration of Chargers football now and it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>into its ninth year here in Los Angeles. That I

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<v Speaker 1>feel with this particular team is just depth. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of depth out there, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it is it blue chips? Don't know? I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say that, Yeah, there's blue chips out

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<v Speaker 1>there right now, you know, but Putaford turned into a

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<v Speaker 1>blue chip player, you know, on a low money deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at it and it's just like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much depth that we're gonna have. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a hell of a time. We always have fun

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<v Speaker 1>doing the fifty three popper. I think the fifty threes.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it four running backs? Is it seven wide receivers?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it four tight ends? Is it five tight ends?

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<v Speaker 1>If you include a full back. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different I guess ways that this roster could

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<v Speaker 1>be constructed based on how they want to play and

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of players that they've kind of thrown into

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<v Speaker 1>this mix save one group, like the one group that

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<v Speaker 1>I look at and I'm like, Wow, it's O line

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like you just kind of think about what's

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<v Speaker 1>behind that You know, if it's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>same starting front, you know, plus Mackay, Beckeden and Tray

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<v Speaker 1>is your swing. I kind of look at what's behind that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the one where I circle and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see them maybe keeping an eye on cuts

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<v Speaker 1>and guys that are performing somewhere else. But otherwise I

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<v Speaker 1>feel I mean, tell me if you feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing something here, I feel pretty good just based on

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the money they gave Dante Jackson and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a lot, but it's enough to suggest, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they think he's going to be a viable contributor to

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<v Speaker 1>this team in Saint Jus just kind of fits what

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<v Speaker 1>they like, you know, and I think he's a tracy

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<v Speaker 1>guy that they like, and they're like, yeah, give this

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<v Speaker 1>guy to clink and you'll see him take the steps.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, it's if there's one position that I

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<v Speaker 1>look at, it's that one. It's like, wow, I could

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<v Speaker 1>I could see them looking for a better interior backup

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman in case back then as an injury history,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something happens there or with Zion or with

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<v Speaker 1>with Bozeman. You know, I think everybody's kind of talking

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit now about Andre James and maybe there

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<v Speaker 1>were some you know that the falloff last year wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily because of the offense, but there could be an

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<v Speaker 1>issue you know, medically that that he was dealing with,

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<v Speaker 1>and you wonder whether or not he's passed that. So

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's that's the one position group that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at and I'm like, Okay, who's still out there?

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<v Speaker 1>Who can they get for that bargain or that that

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<v Speaker 1>you know late day three pick that they could you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Elijah Molden deals that they were making, that they

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<v Speaker 1>could go out and scoop up to just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>help that particular room out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it sort of speaks to the depth

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<v Speaker 3>that that's the position group you bring up, and I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with you, but like your things. You know, sixth

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<v Speaker 3>offensive lineman and Trey Pipkins has started you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>forty something games in the league. Yeah, you know, your

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<v Speaker 3>your seventh offensive lineman, Jamari Salier has started at two

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<v Speaker 3>different positions and over the over a full season.

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<v Speaker 2>So like it, like it could be a lot worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, trust me, you and I have both covered this

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<v Speaker 3>team long enough to know that you could be in

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<v Speaker 3>a much much worse position on your offensive line than

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<v Speaker 3>they are in. But you know, I do agree with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's probably my biggest question, you know, heading into

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<v Speaker 3>OTAs and heading into you know, training camp, how does

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<v Speaker 3>this work out?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And you can even throw Andre James in there. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean Andre James has started sixty games, right, yeah, So

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like, okay, how does this work out? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know when the pads come on? You know, what

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<v Speaker 3>does Zion Johnson look like at center? Is that actually

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<v Speaker 3>going to work out? How does left guard shake out?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Is Brandon Taylor a guy that we are overlooking here

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<v Speaker 3>as somebody who could potentially play left guard?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. They're trying and there right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's all an idea right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with that group specifically, it's like you don't really know

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<v Speaker 3>what you have until those pads come on and you

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<v Speaker 3>start seeing these guys actually work and play through contact

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<v Speaker 3>and all of that kind of stuff. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been saying it for for months. At this point,

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<v Speaker 3>like I felt like they probably needed two new starters

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<v Speaker 3>on the interior to really get this thing to a

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<v Speaker 3>place where they could play the way that Jim Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 3>wants to play right now, it's it's looking like one

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<v Speaker 3>new starter and and there are guys still out there

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<v Speaker 3>right like on the on the free Asian market that

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<v Speaker 3>potentially could come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Hernandez is you know, yeah for sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Right And if you're saying competitors welcome like you want

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<v Speaker 3>right now, it could be you know, three guys battling

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<v Speaker 3>at center and four guys battling at left guard like

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<v Speaker 3>why not more right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I think one thing it also tells you

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<v Speaker 1>pop and you know this is like there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot offensive linemen out there, man that you can find

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<v Speaker 1>yourself d lineman. You can find edge rushers, you can

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<v Speaker 1>find dprs and you know, is it easy? No, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You know, those those guys, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You have a better opportunity to find them

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<v Speaker 1>than you do, oh lineman. When people and I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about high level when when teams find high level O

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<v Speaker 1>lineman in less of the Houston Texans, they keep them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and those guys just rarely bake the market.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's sort of the one thing that that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm anxious to see how this Slater deal is is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be squared away because you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this for years now, and just how the

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<v Speaker 1>number keeps going up and up and up, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how that reconciles with this front office where

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been twenty eight last year and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's I would imagine north of thirty based on his

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<v Speaker 1>agent and what his agent wants and if you're representing

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<v Speaker 1>these guys and he's an all pro, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just and look, I've done this before, man. I

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<v Speaker 1>have done this dance with Derwin, I've done it with Bosa,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done it with Herbert, and ultimately it gets done.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked to Joe Ortiz last week and he said

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<v Speaker 1>all the right thing. He's like, come on, man, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we're going to get Slater back. There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's just you know, working through it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of look at it through that financial

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<v Speaker 1>lens of and this deal got a lot more expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine from Rashawn's side, from his agent side,

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<v Speaker 1>that this deal with the jump in the cap, with

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<v Speaker 1>the non quarterback pay percentage of cap that non quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>are getting now at edge and at you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett and at wide receiver with Chase I just

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be a little bit tougher

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<v Speaker 1>than maybe some people are.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's what I'd say about that, it takes two

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<v Speaker 3>to make a deal. So Rashaun Slater in his camp

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<v Speaker 3>also would have had to want to make a deal

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<v Speaker 3>last year versus betting on him and knowing that there

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<v Speaker 3>were deals that were gonna get done, and knowing that

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<v Speaker 3>if he played well and entered this offseason without a

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<v Speaker 3>contract extension, that he would probably make more money. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's part of it, right, But ultimately, like

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, you mentioned those guys, like all of

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<v Speaker 3>those deals went either right up to the edge of

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<v Speaker 3>training camp. Within Thurwin's case, it went to August seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked this up, you know, the timing of all

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff, even like Keenan's extension went right up until

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<v Speaker 3>like Labor Day when he signed.

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<v Speaker 2>His that was the third contract.

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<v Speaker 3>The other guys are obviously second contracts, and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a new front office, but Ed maguire is still

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<v Speaker 3>negotiating the contracts and it's the same ownership and so

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<v Speaker 3>like this is sort of the process. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna they're gonna negotiate, right and like at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe it's like still a little bit early,

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<v Speaker 3>but as it gets towards training camp, like like the

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<v Speaker 3>number is the number at that point you're negotiating over

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<v Speaker 3>like the minutia of the contract, and like the agents

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<v Speaker 3>are are trying to get the absolute best deal for

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<v Speaker 3>their clients. And then when they come to the table

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<v Speaker 3>again or they're trying to get new clients, they can

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<v Speaker 3>point to things that they.

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<v Speaker 2>Were able to negotiate.

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<v Speaker 3>So I the way this has always happened historically, Like

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<v Speaker 3>my guess is it's like report day, day before report day.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it extends into training camp like it did with Derwin,

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<v Speaker 3>but that deal was, like the Durwin deal was basically done.

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<v Speaker 3>It was two weeks of like haggling over like the

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<v Speaker 3>minutia of the minutia of the contract and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but Derwin was at practice and like eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets done and it becomes like.

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<v Speaker 3>A total afterthought, you know, by the start of the

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<v Speaker 3>regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>So it just it it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the end of the day, like the market

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<v Speaker 3>is the market, Like if you if you have a

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<v Speaker 3>left tackle that is an elite player, like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>pay him a certain amount of money. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna get some huge discount here because they're playing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tough at the negotiating table now when he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>All pro, not when he's an all pro left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just exactly right and.

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<v Speaker 3>Also the way you want to play, like right, like

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<v Speaker 3>like when you're when when your run game coordinator Andy

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<v Speaker 3>Bischoff comes out in his first press conference and he says,

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<v Speaker 3>we have an O line centric building and you have

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<v Speaker 3>an elite left tackle and you don't pay him top

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<v Speaker 3>of the market, Like those two things don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, don't line up, you know, so ultimately, like

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<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna be a physical, dominant line of scrimmage team,

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<v Speaker 3>like you better be paying your elite offensive lineman, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like their elite offensive lineman based on what the market

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<v Speaker 3>is on you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it also sends a signal to your

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<v Speaker 1>first round, top five pick from last year, like we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. This is this is an O line, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tip of the spear. O line is a weapon, play

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<v Speaker 1>physical football, Like it's just like you said, it runs

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<v Speaker 1>in step with everything that's been messaged by this front office,

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<v Speaker 1>this coaching staff of how they want to build a team.

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<v Speaker 1>So again I just for me, it's and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>scar tissue there, right, I've never I've done this is

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<v Speaker 1>my ninth year. I've never once had a contract issue

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<v Speaker 1>lead to a trade going into a season because they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't able to resolve it. So you know, on that front,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like I have anything that that I can

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<v Speaker 1>point to to say, yeah, I'm just worried about this

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<v Speaker 1>thing happening again and just haven't seen that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess you could say Keenan from last

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<v Speaker 1>year when he refused to take a pay cut, But

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<v Speaker 1>that was totally understandable. I think based on you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that Joey and Khalil took a pay cut, that

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<v Speaker 1>they were thirty whatever million dollars over the cap, and

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't bring that guy back not taking a pay

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<v Speaker 1>cut when the other two guys did. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, different.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that that situation probably could have been handled

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<v Speaker 3>differently from from keenanside.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the one thing I will.

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<v Speaker 3>Pay from from that side, Yes, the one thing I

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<v Speaker 3>could bring up with Rashan though, is like, you do

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<v Speaker 3>you do wonder if the injury stuff is factoring into

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<v Speaker 3>this negotiation. Right, missed all of twenty two, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>had a bit of a down year in twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>as he was battling ankle issues. You know, had the

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<v Speaker 3>peck injury last year. Obviously he was able to play

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<v Speaker 3>through it, but you do wonder if that does you know,

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<v Speaker 3>factor into sort of the thought process there. And obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, it's a cold business when you get

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<v Speaker 3>to the negotiating table, like everything becomes a thing that

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was wondering if I were in his camp,

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<v Speaker 1>my pushback on that would be is, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of other guys would out, they would

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<v Speaker 1>they would set out. But Rashaan is is a freaking

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<v Speaker 1>psycho and a warrior and is all about protecting Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert and that's why he was out there. And but

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, it's like what's the vast And then you

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of look at you know, when you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to read these tee Lea's and you look at Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at their offensive line and particularly tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>They like giants, you know, they like these massive human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>And Joe Walt and Mackai backed then and and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and look, that's why the Chargers were able to draft

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<v Speaker 1>Rashaan Slater because there were people that were concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>the size, about the length, and all he is is

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<v Speaker 1>just the best technician in football. And once he gets

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<v Speaker 1>his hands on you, it is absolutely over.

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<v Speaker 2>Just watch that. I don't I don't care about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just watch the film.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if they're having questions about that because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>fit a certain profile, just go watch the film.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all you need to know exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to it's a waste of my time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am actually segueing into something else, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is these first three games of the season, and why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, this has got to get figured out

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<v Speaker 1>in training camp, Like this is not a okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta you know, because it's Chris Jones and the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Christian Wilkins and the Raiders. It's that front of

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, that front seven of Denver that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be coming after that interior line. And they're all division games,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean that's I mean, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>that at what the Broncos did this offseason and DJ

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<v Speaker 1>Jones and Cooper and Greenlaw and Alan like it is

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<v Speaker 1>a I don't want to say no name, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like it's not that splash, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good front and that that old line is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tested. Like you're you're Zion Johnson and

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<v Speaker 1>you got freaking Chris Jones lining up over you and

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying center for the first time in a game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's That's what I'm talking about on this particular position group.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Like in I went into the offseason feeling like they

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<v Speaker 3>were going to be aggressive and trying to fix this

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<v Speaker 3>because it was bad in Houston. Like if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to point to one thing that went wrong there, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, go nine plays into the game and you'll see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Zion and Bradley Boseman, you know, unable to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up a stunt in the interior, leading to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, pressure. So you know, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like from their eyes, like if McKai Beckton

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<v Speaker 3>is playing at the level he was playing for with

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<v Speaker 3>the Eagles, and he's on the field and he's available,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the idea is that he's going to elevate everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, Yeah, you know, which I think is fair.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really have any questions about like what McKai

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<v Speaker 3>Beckton can be. I think you can probably ask the

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<v Speaker 3>question like, Okay, you know how much of it was

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff stoutlind the Eagles offensive line coach. Is he going

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<v Speaker 3>to continue to play at that level? But if he's

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, I think he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>very clear upgrade at the position.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's like how many games are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of him?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you talk to some people around the league and

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<v Speaker 3>they look at what happened with the Eagles and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the aberration, Like getting eighteen games out of that

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<v Speaker 3>guy between the regular season and the playoffs. Like is

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<v Speaker 3>he going to be able to you that now, we

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<v Speaker 3>did play sixteen games the year before with the Jets,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe he's put this stuff behind him, But like

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<v Speaker 3>we've we've gone down this road before where you feel

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<v Speaker 3>like the Chargers go out and free agency and they

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<v Speaker 3>fix a problem with an injury. You know, a player

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<v Speaker 3>with an injury history like Brian Buloga is a great example,

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<v Speaker 3>like Boom signed Brian Bulaga immediately right tackle set, and

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<v Speaker 3>we got hurt the first first game of the season,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all of the Sun contract and then it's

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, you're you're on Storm Norton and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like it's it's not good, you know, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and but that's you know, it's a good problem to have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Like there's been years past where you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>specifically about like, Okay, the starters are not good enough,

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.960
<v Speaker 3>but now it's like, okay, do you have enough contingencies?

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<v Speaker 3>And they do have players that have played, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent with you like that is my focus

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<v Speaker 3>is like what happens at center, what happens at left guard?

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<v Speaker 2>How much do you get him a Kai backed in?

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<v Speaker 2>And have they done enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Here to improve what was the biggest weakness of the

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<v Speaker 3>team last year in my opinion, And and we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to find out, like you said right away, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I you know, and I love what the Broncos did.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably the best off off season in football.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you tell you, now, look, Drake Greenlaw's

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<v Speaker 1>on the wrong side of thirty. He's coming off a

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<v Speaker 1>serious injury. They gave him thirty million dollars. It's that's there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're risks when you when you make these sort of deals.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they clearly had you know, they clearly

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<v Speaker 1>had positions they wanted to address. They wanted that stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the field athletic tight end, they got it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Evan Ingram. They wanted some some juice in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>They got it in R. J. Harvey. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to provide depth on that front. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like everything and then what do they do. They make

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<v Speaker 1>arguably one of the strongest rooms in the NFL, even

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<v Speaker 1>stronger with Joddy Baron, Like it's just love that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the one thing about the Broncos is and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's you know, it's it's I can't say why,

0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's I don't know about Bonick Schet. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say. I just don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm buying it yet, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm if I'm really buying it. Just yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's and there's no reason for it other than it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty pretty clunky for a handful of games there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really good looking for a couple of games there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not quite sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was clunky until he played the Chargers that

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<v Speaker 3>first time and almost started running around. Yeah how many

0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:29.480
<v Speaker 3>times that happen to the Chargers, by the way, But

0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.639
<v Speaker 3>next turns his season around against the Chargers. They obviously

0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.200
<v Speaker 3>win the game, but like they couldn't keep him in

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<v Speaker 3>the pocket. That for remember Jordan Love, Jordan Love was

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 3>essentially going to be out of the league, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in one half. It was the second half

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<v Speaker 1>of that game where just busted coverage after busted coverage

0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and palms in the air and we're flying home from

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay and the charter going the hell was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I literally had players in the Chargers locker room ask

0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.479
<v Speaker 3>me like, did we just like make that guy's career?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, like at the halftime of that game at LAMBA,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember having a conversation with Matt Schneidman, who covers

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<v Speaker 3>the Packers for us, and I'm really like, are they

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<v Speaker 3>sure about this guy? Likely talking about Jordan Love after

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 3>the first half, right, the second half happens, he leads

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:13.880
<v Speaker 3>him back and then you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, the rest is history. You know, playoff run, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, going back, I'm sorry, Papa, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, unless you if you have something, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, just kind of going back to the old line.

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's also, you know, a signal from the

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<v Speaker 1>front office and the running backs they now have populating

0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.719
<v Speaker 1>that room, you know, And I think even you hear

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the way they talk about Rhene Sanders and here's another

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 1>guy that's two hundred and twenty, two hundred and twenty

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.679
<v Speaker 1>five pounds. You know, they're all two twenty plus. I mean,

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.080
<v Speaker 1>now she's two forty, for God's sake. So it's clear

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:42.959
<v Speaker 1>there's this shift and they want these guys going this

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<v Speaker 1>way and not this way. And that's something we just

0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:47.480
<v Speaker 1>did not see enough of last year.

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the running back room is is really solid. I

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.760
<v Speaker 3>mean I think, like I know, there are there are

0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.880
<v Speaker 3>sections of the fan base that were like running back

0:20:55.920 --> 0:21:00.199
<v Speaker 3>at twenty two, and this is Omarion Hampton is going

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 3>to be a fan favorite by like week two, Like

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.359
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have one run in the opening game of

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 3>the season where he just trucks a safety and people

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.600
<v Speaker 3>are and and by by the you know, by week three,

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, there's gonna be a mari and Hampton jerseys everywhere.

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm just I'm I'm very confident that this guy

0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:23.800
<v Speaker 3>is going to be a difference making player. And you know,

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.600
<v Speaker 3>you talk about last year right, like they did catch

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.840
<v Speaker 3>lightning in a bottle a little bit with JK Dobbins,

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, he misses that big stretch of the season.

0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, he played thirteen games, but that those four

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:36.639
<v Speaker 3>games he missed were really big.

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, Gus Edwards was battling injuries.

0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.199
<v Speaker 3>They didn't really have the two headed monster that they

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.120
<v Speaker 3>were that they were hoping for when they when they

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.520
<v Speaker 3>signed Gus and JK last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Nor did they.

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<v Speaker 3>Really have that like consistency. But I love the way

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 3>this room is fitting together. Like Naje Harris, they bring

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 3>in like he is what he is, Like is he

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 3>a home run hitter or no, But like sometimes you

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 3>need guys that are contact hitters, that are doubles hitters.

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<v Speaker 3>You can hand off the ball and they're gonna go

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.440
<v Speaker 3>get what's blocked for them, and they're gonna play with

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 3>a certain level of physicality and they're gonna be on

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 3>the field every week Like it's going to be seventeen games, durability, toughness,

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 3>like that's important, and then you go out and get

0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 3>an explosive guy like Omar and Hampton, and now you're like,

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:18.399
<v Speaker 3>it's not like a Marion Hampton has to come in

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 3>and be the number one back right away, like you

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 3>can hand it off de Naja Harris and O Marion

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Hampton has time. But like it's a different looking backfield.

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.399
<v Speaker 3>It's a different looking backfield, and I think it's all

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<v Speaker 3>geared towards getting this offense to play within the philosophy

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:34.639
<v Speaker 3>of Jim Harbaugh, Like you want to be able to

0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 3>physically dominate and if the offensive line there, we'll see,

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 3>you know. I think if Mkai Beckton can stay in

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 3>the field that right side, it's pretty solid.

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's been missing right like they've never

0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 1>been able to run right, Like it's it's we've been

0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like Myers, you're running left more and that is the

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>one thing. You know, Zion and Rashaan did a pretty

0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:54.880
<v Speaker 1>good job of blocking it up in the run game,

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and you saw production to that side. And then even

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>last year, I know we were just scratching our heads

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like why can't they run right? Like what is going

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>on with this team and now with that pair that

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that could certainly dramatically change this this offense and get

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.360
<v Speaker 1>some defensive linemen on their heels instead of on their

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 1>toes so much, which we've seen for the last it

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:16.879
<v Speaker 1>feels like three four years.

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Well the first question is why can't they run right?

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 3>And then later in the season is why are they

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 3>still running right?

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Exactly exactly right the.

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Way.

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So you know, you feel like the run game

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 3>is going to be improved just because of what the

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 3>backfield is. You know, a Marion Hampton is a guy

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 3>that's going to be able to make something out of

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 3>nothing in a.

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Big way, very consistently.

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 3>JK did it at times last year, but it's you know,

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Amari and Hampton's going to present a completely different animal,

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 3>I think in that regard. So I love what they've

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 3>done with the running back room. But you know, going

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 3>back to something you said earlier that I thought was

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 3>a good point, you know, it's a it's a deep roster.

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 3>I give them a lot of credit for building a

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 3>deep roster, but but where are those blue chips? I

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 3>think that's the big question, you know, And and they're

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 3>going to need guys to step up into into those positions, right,

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Like I think you even look at edge rusher like

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 3>last year, you know, it was the strength of the

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.719
<v Speaker 3>defense and they built the defense around the edge rushers.

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Now you lose Joey Bosa. You know, you still feel

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 3>like cloon Mack can be a high level player. But

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 3>he's thirty four. You know who's stepping up in that

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 3>room like toy Blow two is going to be you know,

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 3>starting players.

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 1>You have him ranked pop Popper on the Athletic Another

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>reason why you should subscribe twenty to number one most

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 1>important Players for the upcoming Charger season. Where'd you put

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.360
<v Speaker 1>two Lee? Because I would assume he's the top ten, right.

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's fringe eleven.

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go.

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, you know, me, I had four offensive

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 2>linemen in the top ten because I'm a psycho.

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.120
<v Speaker 3>But I mean I've watched enough football in my life

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 3>to know, like that's how you win football game.

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean we watched it in Houston. Why it did.

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 1>But Tully to me is, you know, and I read it.

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to make it sound like I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And I read the articles. They're great, but I just

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>remember him kind of being right there and me saying, yeah,

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>like Tuley's gotta this is Tooley's time though you know

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you're you're now the guy. It's ew and Khalil and

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>we've seen those flashes and the November was it November

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 1>October last year where he had the wild production for

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a month, like, let's see it, man, because it feels

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's in there. Yeah.

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 3>So I wonder with Tully, like, because some people have

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 3>brought this up to me, like, do you think you know,

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 3>if he's if he's become if he becomes a starter

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 3>and he's not playing you know, three hundred to four

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 3>hundred special team snaps, does that impact you know, his

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 3>production because I think I think if they can find

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 3>other players, you know, if Kyle Canard takes over, for example,

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 3>his special team snaps, it.

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Makes sense that he would, right based on how he's

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>built in the profile. I mean, it looks like Chris

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Rump kind of you know sort of deal, right, a

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.399
<v Speaker 1>little bigger. Yeah, well you could say that for just

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>about anybody. Sorry Chris.

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, so you know I wonder, you know, obviously

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.640
<v Speaker 3>he has this opportunity to take over this number two

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 3>role and be a starter. You know, can they afford

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 3>to take some special teams off his plate so that

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 3>he's fresher on defense. And what does that mean for

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, his production? And you know, obviously like he

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.439
<v Speaker 3>produced last year, I don't know if like I think

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 3>it was eight and a half sacks, nine sacks something

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 3>like that. Yeah, I don't think he really played at

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 3>that level consistently. I actually thought his tape was better

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 3>as a rookie than a second year player. But I

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 3>could I could see an argument otherwise. So you know,

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 3>can can you get the consistent down to down, you know,

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 3>pass rush productivity from him with an increased roll on

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.719
<v Speaker 3>defense and maybe maybe taking some of that special teams

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 3>off his plate with other younger players moving into that role.

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, geez, poor Ryan ficken Man, just his his

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>special team's got absolutely rated this offseason. But I think

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>also credit to Geortiz is you know, you bring Troy

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Die back, and you you know, it looked like a

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of these picks, you know, especially Mickens and Bridges

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and Canard, like it feels like, okay, I can see, yeah,

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>these guys absolutely fit that profile. Dean Leonard still on

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.959
<v Speaker 1>the team, John Taylor, I believe, Yeah, they're up there,

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>both still on the team, so at least you still

0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>have some core for stalwarts you know out there that

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>that can help. I think you know a guy that

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I could totally see being one of those core four guys,

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's just such fun tape to watch the splash

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>plays is Steve Oklotts. You know, Yeah, that's that Guy's

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>got Ryan Ficken written all over him. Is like probably

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>his favorite player that we're going to see when these

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>OTAs in training camp gets rolling.

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I don't know if he's gonna make the

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 3>fifty three, but that's a guy to circle for the

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 3>practice squad that's gonna get an elevation in like week

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 3>six and play a bunch of special team snaps.

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I loved his film.

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 3>It's like he's he's really he's not like a big dude,

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 3>but he just gets after it in the run game.

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 3>And now, like you understand why, like jam is bringing

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 3>up Steve O. Klatts's press conference when you go watch

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 3>his tape, because you know, you can line up at

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 3>h back, tight end, full back and he gets downhill

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 3>and he gets after people in the run game, So like,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's a guy absolutely you could see called

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 3>up and and uh, you know, make an impact on

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 3>special teams in the game middle of the season when

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 3>they're battling some injuries and you know, maybe play ten

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 3>to twelve snaps on offense. But I mean that's the

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 3>life going back to Ryan Ficken, you know, that's the

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 3>life of a special teams coach.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's every year you got turnover and you're

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>piecing it together and you're getting young guys that, oh, yeah,

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I played a ton of special teams in college, and

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 3>then they come in and they're raw and you got it,

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, right, and you gotta.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Figure it out.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 3>And you know that's why I think, you know, I

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 3>think it's unfortunate that special teams coaches do get looked

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 3>over a little bit when you're talking about you know,

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 3>head coaching hirings and interviews and stuff like that.

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Like there's no.

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Coach outside of the head coach on the roster that

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 3>has to be more familiar with the entire roster than

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 3>special teams coaches because they have to look under every

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 3>rock and every nook and cranny to find guys that

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 3>they think can play consistent football for them.

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 2>And Ryan Picken has done a really good job.

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 3>But I think that was a little bit of a

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 3>part of what happened last year, you know, especially on

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 3>the punt unit. You know, I don't think JK. Scott

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 3>had a good season, but there were so many pieces

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>rotating through there, you know, guys off the practice squad

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>and waivers and you know, and they had so many

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 3>injuries there early in the season, between Jah and Dean

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Leonard at a hamstring and Nick Neeman you know, missed

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 3>the first four games of the season. So it's going

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>to be interesting to see, like how some of these

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 3>young guys, some of these rookies, you know, impact special

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 3>teams because ultimately, like it does matter when you know,

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 3>obviously the plays themselves. We're talking about Tooley, right, like, yeah,

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 3>he if they're they're going to take special team snaps

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 3>off his plate, somebody has to take those on and

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 3>they have to be close to as good.

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>As Tooley is, right, so really good, right.

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 3>So, and if they don't have somebody that can take

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 3>those snaps, then all of a sudden, Tuley has to

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 3>play three hundred and fifty special team snaps and then

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>you watch, you wonder how that affects his his defense.

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 3>So it all sort of pairs together, but I do

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 3>want to say that special teams coaches deserve a little

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 3>bit more love.

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And then you're going, let's see, I'm just going to

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of go into the who's still available in the

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>edge market out there? Von Miller? You want a thirty

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>six year old Von Miller who made twenty million bucks?

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Matt Judaan, I know we've talked about him, But for

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Zadarias Smith, Preston Smith, You'davi and Clowney. I mean, there's

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>still guys out there, and I think that may be

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that that's something probably to.

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Keep an eye on and go and go with five.

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, I think if Thicken's like, hey, dude, these

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>guys aren't ready, we got to keep tu Lee out there,

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and then you just kind of take a little bit

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>off his plate and you can go pluck like they

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>did with Bud. Whether they give him nine million year,

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, kind of a little bit later

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and in that second.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it was total nine million.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>It was two years yea two years nine. So that's

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing that that could make sense if if it's

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>not working. The one just kind of speaking to that,

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the the Steve Oclots and like the back end there.

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Like so many people. When they they signed him as

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a priority undrafted free agent, We're like, oh, Rahem Sanders,

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, slow down, you got a son.

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Haskins is a special team stalwart and short yards back.

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>He's making the team. You just drafted Hampton, You've got

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Najie Harris, they just drafted Kamani Videll last year. And

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>then I started watching a little bit more Rahiem Sanders,

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and then I started listening to the coach and then

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>we talked to Geortiz last week and you just saw

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>his face light up when he was talking about Oz

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>at the South Carolina game when we were in Charlotte,

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and then I busted this run and I was like

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that's and I'm like, Okay, I think this guy might

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>he might be pushing, you know, if they feel like

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>he can fill that role with a little more explosiveness.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Then I just think Haskins, to me, was one of

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the more underappreciated players last year because of how much

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>he did on special teams and pass pro and when

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>he had to be a fullback, he was a full bed.

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>There was just a lot there and I was like,

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't see them moving on from him.

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you're if you're a running back trying to

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 3>make it in the league, go look at Hassan Haskins.

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.719
<v Speaker 3>And if you can play that style, and you can

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 3>and you can play a ton on special teams, and

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 3>you can tackle, and you can be athletic and physical

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 3>in that phase, you're going to make a lot of

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 3>rosters as a third running back because you just need

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 3>that flex, right, you know, you need that flex deeper

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 3>in your running back room. And so I agree, I

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 3>think that the spot to watch is the fourth running

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 3>back spot. You know, depending on how roster shakes out.

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 3>But you know, it's a big, big off season for

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.719
<v Speaker 3>command of idell. You know, like like that's one like

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 3>the linebacker versus running back one on one pass protection drills,

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 3>those periods during training camp. I will be watching very

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 3>closely because he obviously has some juice. You know, he

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 3>caught that touchdown pass.

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>The first place the issue is like can he get

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 3>to the NFL level in terms of pass protection because

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 3>he had a really rough game against the Bucks and

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 3>it makes you sort of scratch your head and say, like, okay,

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 3>there's a long way to go there with a full

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>off season. You know, how does he look in terms

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 3>of being able to take on linebackers from a physical standpoint,

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 3>but also identification things of that.

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Key right there to me is that he's got to

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>see it.

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 2>It's just it.

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>It felt he felt a little bit slower than it

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>tick slow last year and got to the point where

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, dangerous and yeah, and so that'll be yeah, fourth,

0:32:55.360 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>fourth running back versus seventh wide receiver is just I

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>know they did it out of training camp last year

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>with Brendan Rice. I just can't see it this year.

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget that money. I'll never forget that.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll never forget that.

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Did we talk you out of it?

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I talked you out of it. I was like

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Aaryan seven wide receivers, You're crazy, Pop. It was the

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>last the last we were in the booth.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We were at annual, Yeah my annual?

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Or were we in Dallas? Were we in Dallas?

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Or were we Honestly, I can't I can't remember exactly

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 3>where we were in the booth. For the final preseason game,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like set, I had my fifty three set.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm going seven receivers. No one's going

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 3>to convince me otherwise, I'm taking the best fifty three.

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 3>These seven receivers have all earned a spot. I like

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 3>had my my logic was all ironed out, and I

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>went and DJ was like, no shot.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>No shot, damn.

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Like this guy worked with Joe, Yeah he might, like

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>he's got to know.

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 3>And then I got moved off my spot and I

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 3>will never happen again.

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>What you did? You put Traman Morris Brash in there.

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I think instead as the U as the I can't.

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Remember I did something that I regret.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say it again. I don't think they carry

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>seven out. I just don't. I don't. I don't see it.

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, you know, it's it's the two rookies. It's

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams Quinton you know obviously, lad and figure it out. Man.

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 3>I have six right now, So I have my running

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 3>fifty three going already because again I'm a psycho, so

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I've already.

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Because it's it's just a good way.

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 3>It's good to get the process started early, so just

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 3>so you can see, like, okay, where are the pressure points,

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 3>like where the competition is sort of going to be

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 3>shaping up.

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 2>So I have six right now, lad Trey Harris, R.

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 3>KLS, Mike Williams, Darius, and then I have Quintin in

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 3>right now.

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 2>But like this is a big off season for Quentin too.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like they took two guys that can play your position,

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, like in theory, if you put Mike at X,

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 3>like it could be Trey Harris at Z could be

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 3>KLS and Z right, so, and and Quentin can't play X,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Like that's it's not it's not gonna happen at this point.

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's clear based on who they signed and

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>who they drafted, and and then you look at the tryout,

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, the fact that they then signed you know,

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Dale Von Campbell, who's another six', four two hundred and you,

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>know five pound outside. Receiver it's like clearly there was a.

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Type you, know there was, speed and there was, size

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and there were guys that PLAYED x and you know in.

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>College and SO i think you're, Right like it's For.

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Quentin you, KNOW i feel LIKE i always feel bad

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about it because by all, accounts great, guy hard,

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>worker you, know all of those, things and typically that

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>when you're a first round, pick that goes a long.

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Way you're not a, Jerk you're not you, know you're not,

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>complaining you're not slacking trying to get. Better it's just

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>those you, know you have The raider game in week

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was week, eighteen, right and then and then

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you have the playoff, game and it's, like, uh which

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>which is? It you? Know so, Yeah I'M i struggled

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>to BECAUSE i could tight end AND i, see you,

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>know obviously four and you know With, Disley, Conkling gadsden And,

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>fisk all four of those guys are making.

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 3>It and you, know, YEAH i mean you could you

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 3>could like potentially Stash fisk on the on the practice.

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>SQUAD i just thought he was, good he was no.

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 3>But how many, teams how many teams in the league

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 3>are looking for that skill, set you, know, right and

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 3>maybe more than in the past because the teams are

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 3>starting to run the ball a little bit, more but.

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Right and then it comes down To Matt locke and

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>that development and they've invested so much there and the

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>idea that they're just going to be, like, yeah, well you,

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Know fisk can fill that role and that's how you

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>save that spot. There but it just feels like you,

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>know between how coaches talked about him and how much

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.479
<v Speaker 1>they've invested in trying to get him to be a full,

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 1>back and the fact that he did gradually get better

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>week after week toward the end of the, year it

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>would feel weird that they would just kind of throw that.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Aside, Yeah AND i mean the flexibility is, great.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 3>Right you stash him on the roster and you play

0:36:57.880 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 3>him at defensive tackle and he'll give you functional. Player

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 3>you can play them on offense And i'll give you functional, play.

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Right even you can can play on special. Teams you,

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.439
<v Speaker 3>know he's playing on the kick return unit last year

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 3>with the new kickoff, role so, RIGHT i am curious,

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 3>though like is it gonna be the same role as

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 3>last year or if he, doesn't or if he's on the,

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 3>roster is it going to be like an offense.

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>ONLY i, mean what do they. Say they preach it

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>all the time with every, position, right just flexibility much

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>how much flexibility means for, them you? Know and and

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you, know like you Heard Jesse minner

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about it with, corners with, SAFETIES i want my

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>best five on the. FIELD i don't care what position they're.

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>PLAYING i want them on the field and you heard

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>that with offensive, Line, well we Think zion can play,

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Center bradley can play. Guard we love the flexibility at

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>tray and it's like it's a team that preaches that

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>all the, time and so you, Know Matt, LOCKE i

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>know it's a little bit, different but, yeah between special

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>team snaps offense, SNAPS i mean you can you can

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>get worn down pretty quickly. There it'll be interesting to

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>see if he is going to be a full time

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>fullback and if they're going to run those packages all

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the time like it felt like they did last year

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>with this bigger. Backfield that's it's way too early to

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 1>go through the fifty. THREE i didn't mean to take

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that direction, here but it just gets fun doing. IT

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>i love, that you, KNOW i know we talk about

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it all the. Time i'm sure you already have your

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>preliminary fifty three sitting in front of you that you're constantly.

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 3>MOVING i, do, well it's fifty four right, now just

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 3>BECAUSE i haven't like narrowed it, down BUT i do

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 3>have like a running kind just BECAUSE i want to, see, like,

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 3>okay where if we're going to be making.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Decisions, here like what are the.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Decisions you, Know i'm really curious, about, like you, know

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 3>the corner, room how the corner room and so.

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>WHAT i was just it's, FUNNY i was just looking

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>at that as we're. Talking i've got it here in

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>front of, me and you, know the one name that

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously jumps out and again Sorry Ryan, fickett It's John. Taylor,

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Right it's, like where where does joh fit into? This

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>when it felt like he kind of lost his position

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>last year and kind of took a step back on

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the depth chart after being given an. Opportunity the weird

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>thing for me last year was just that we didn't

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 1>see More Dean, leonard you, know based on sort of

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>what we saw from him in camp and in some

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>of those preseason, games that he wasn't a guy that

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>got some more.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Reps, yeah, No i'm with.

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 3>YOU i loved WHAT i saw From Dean, leonard specifically

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.280
<v Speaker 3>in the preseason. Games he made a couple of plays

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 3>that were really really. Impressive, SO i, mean here's the

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 3>thing With. Jah he had a pretty significant injury In

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 3>week one of last, year and he played through, it

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 3>and you got to give him credit for playing through.

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 3>IT a lot of guys would not have played through

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 3>the injury that he, had AND i think that really,

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 3>affected you, know how he was able to. Play you

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 3>saw he was in and, out constantly getting worked on

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 3>on the. Sideline you, KNOW i was expecting a big

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 3>jump from, him and you, KNOW i think the injury

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of derailed his. Season BUT i think when you

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:44.760
<v Speaker 3>when you talk About josh specifically with this year's fifty,

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 3>three this year's, roster he can play well in the.

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Slot he showed us that he can play well at,

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 3>nickel AND i think you kind of need that with

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the way the room is set up right. Now Obviously

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 3>drwin's going to be playing a lot in the, slot

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 3>but After, derwin It's tarheb, right and then it's, like,

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 3>okay where's your you, know where's your depth? There which

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 3>is WHY i, think you, Know jock potentially have a

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 3>route to fifty three because you look at the rest

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 3>of the, Guys Cam hart outside Only Dante jackson is

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 3>an outside, Guy Benjamin saint ju just, Outside Dean leonard.

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Outside Tar heeb can obviously play. Both jah has played,

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 3>both but has played as better football as a as

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 3>a nickel, Player so that.

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Would be my only.

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Reason you, know they do have some some of these

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 3>undrafted free agents that project as potential nickel. Guys, yeah

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>but that would be my only point On John.

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Taylor, yeah it's and again IT'S i think you said,

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 1>it and everybody really picked on him last, year you,

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>know and and it's it's not. Fair he easily could

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>have just SAID i can't do it and and not

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 1>been out there and and avoided all of. That the

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>defensive line, group, AGAIN i DON'T i feel like that's pretty.

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 1>SETTLED i can't imagine them unless it's the whole special

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>teams thing With. TULEY i don't think there's an interior

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 1>alignment that they're gonna go, pluck you, know if he

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>gets cut. SOMEWHERE i feel like they're kind of settled.

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 1>There we've heard a lot about a boyg bee and

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>putting on that twenty pounds of, muscle and we were

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>told he was a developmental player last year and not

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>to you know that this is someone who's, raw And

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>elston's gonna work with him and have some, patience and you,

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 1>know by all accounts that's exactly how it played. Out

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.879
<v Speaker 1>AND i mean you saw, him you're out there at phase.

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Two does he look a lot different than he did last.

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Year he looks, bigger.

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 3>But, yeah we'll see when the pads come. On you,

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 3>know that's sort of Where i'm. At but you, KNOW

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 3>i think it's LIKE i guess the POINT i would

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 3>make is like in the, past when we talked through

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 3>the roster like this at this. Stage you, know under

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.919
<v Speaker 3>previous regimes you're talking about, Like, okay this guy has

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 3>to make a, jump like this guy is, starting and

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 3>if he doesn't make a, jump they have nothing behind.

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Him WHAT i WHAT i appreciate about what this regime

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 3>does is you have so many contingencies built in where

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 3>like If justin And boygbe makes a, jump, Great if he,

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 3>doesn't you have other options as far as guys that can,

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 3>play WHICH i think the big difference THAT i see

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 3>between how these two regimes are pro roster.

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Building, yeah, no that's fair. Point you know it's nake One.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Jones it's To sean. Hand obviously we saw Tier tart

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>was a you, know rotational get him in there on

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>passing downs only, player and, man he just. Flashed he just,

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>like get that guy more snaps and and same thing With.

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Poona the way you, know the thought going into the

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 1>season when he was signed of what he might be

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>compared to what he. Became one of the things that

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>was interesting with with the conversation that that you know

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>we had with with Coach minter was you, know him,

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>saying you, know the fact that everybody wants to pigeonhole

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>us is his own D it's just who we. Had he's,

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>LIKE i would much rather be able to play more, man.

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>It's still who they have. Though.

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i, think, WELL i think that's sort of the

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of the you, know the The Saint, juice

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the the the traits based kind of idea of can

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you get these big bridges as a traits sort of,

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 1>guy can you coach them up to a point where

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>we saw them coach up to guys saying you, know,

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Look Cam harr played really well on the outside when

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>he was, healthy AND i did not see that on

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That Notre dame film at.

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 2>All LIKE i w key part of that statement, though

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 2>is one, healthy.

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Right and that's BUT i Just i'm speaking to the

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>coaching when they're given a guy with these sort of

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>traits and, like, hey we can coach them into, this

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and we, can but you're, RIGHT i, MEAN i DON'T

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>i don't see a press. Man put him on the

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>island and we're good if we can we can kind

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>of take everything else and worry about. IT i don't

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>see that on this.

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 3>Team, yeah but it's also, LIKE i, mean you're also

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 3>obviously you're playing into what you.

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Have but you, know Like tarivs still like he's.

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Going to be at his best when he's playing in

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 3>a lot of his own. Coverage like he's very an

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:42.479
<v Speaker 3>instinctive players great when he can see it and drive

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 3>down you.

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Know so, YEAH i get where he's coming.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.359
<v Speaker 3>FROM i, MEAN i think every defensive coordinator would love

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, too all pro corners in the outside and

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 3>you play man all the. Time, yeah but free everybody up,

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Right BUT i think like the way that, LIKE i

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 3>don't think the room is different this year where they're

0:43:58.200 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden going to be playing a ton

0:43:59.520 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 3>of man.

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Cover now that that would have to be something that gets.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Plucked and, again premium. Position rarely do those guys become,

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>available and you're not going, to like you, said go

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>out and find a guy that's that you're comfortable putting

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 1>out there on an island and changing the way you.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Play the one thing that THAT i, that you, know

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>AND i should do a better job of pushing your

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>your top twenty BECAUSE i believe he was in there

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>IF i remember. Right But Junior colson is a Big,

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 1>yeah he's a HUGE x factor because of What dayon.

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Did AND i was having this conversation with O'Neil this

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 1>week just how it's funny that you look at how

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>much money some of these off ball linebackers got because

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the market was so, thin and you're, like damn they got,

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that you, know that kind of, Scratch and here The

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>chargers could go into the season with arguably the best

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.399
<v Speaker 1>room in the. League If colson's what we think he could,

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>become And dayon takes that step To Pro, bowl all pro,

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>level it could really end up being the strength of this. Defense.

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah SO i had both of those guys in my top.

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 3>TWENTY i had Day on at number. SIX i just

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 3>kept inching him, up LIKE i THINK i had him at.

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Ten But i'm just, like, man there's so much left

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 3>in the tank for. Him you, like he was really

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 3>good last, year but you think about some of those

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 3>ops he had for you, know interception, sacks like the

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 3>sack like if he makes that sack On Patrick mahomes

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 3>against The chiefs late in the, season right on the final,

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 3>play like he played really really. Well but if he

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 3>starts making some of these plays that were on the

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 3>table for, him you, know what level can he get?

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 3>To AND i just kept inching him, up AND i

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 3>feel like he's going to be really really. Important he's

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna be the green dot signal. Caller he's you, know

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 3>if that one linebacker that's playing in all packages including

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 3>dime is really really important to your.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Defense SO i agree with you.

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 3>There and THEN i Had junior at eighteen of my

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 3>rankings BECAUSE i think if this defense gets to the

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 3>level that they wanted to get, to it's going to

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 3>be dayon and it's going to Be junior and those

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 3>guys are going to be the. Starters and you Have

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 3>denzel as as in troidae as. Depth BUT, i you,

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 3>KNOW i go back TO i feel like we're watching

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 3>that practice together money during training, camp or he got

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 3>into eleven on eleven for the time and they were

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 3>doing the nine on seven run and he just blew

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 3>up a play in the backfield AND i was and we.

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Looked at each other and we're like, yep, yeah all,

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Right and.

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Like my opinion hasn't, changed like just because he had

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 3>a couple of injuries and like his rickitis through training,

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.760
<v Speaker 3>camp right and then the ankle injury during the. Season

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 3>but like every TIME i think, About, okay What's Junior

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 3>colson going to, BE i think about that one play

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 3>from training, camp And i'm, Like.

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay that's what that's what he can.

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Be and And i'm not saying He's Patrick. Willis WHAT

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>i am saying is when you were on a football

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>field standing Watching Patrick, Willis you're, like look at that freaking. Guy,

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 1>yeah That's. Colson. Man when you're standing there and you

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>see that lower, Half you're, like my, god and he's

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>moving like, That like that's the sort of Physical AND

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>i think it's, interesting you know that that for all

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:47.879
<v Speaker 1>of the attention that those d lines get In San,

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 1>francisco it's hard to Ignore Drake Green lawn And Fred,

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>warner you, Know Patrick, Willison Navarro, Bowman like how important

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>that level of the defense, is you, know and was

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and and sort of got overlooked because all these teams

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>started spreading it out and running eleven and you had

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to get speed out. There and now just feels like

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's swinging back and you're gonna have to have you,

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>know two linebackers out, there and who know who, knows

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe three in the next couple of. Years it's going

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to get back to.

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 2>That back to the base, Defenses, vagas that's real.

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Football, exactly back to some base defense with how these

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>teams are running it. Now BUT i do think that

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>THAT'S i love seeing both of those guys in there

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i do think that you, Know ashton genty on

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the on The raiders and with the you, know the

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>older That mahomes gets and just sort of you, know

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>running games are going to become more and more, PREVALENT i,

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>think and having those linebackers going to go a long.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Way, yeah it's a cycloker nation, click circular, nation circular,

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 3>nation Cyclical i'm.

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Trying i'm combining circular and.

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 3>Circular, yeah, cyclic the circular nature of like offensive foot

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 3>OR i guess like schematics in general in THE.

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Nfl but you know what's really interesting is the.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Parallels Between dayon's career and Potentially Junior coulson's. Career Right

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 3>deayon came, in you, know pulled his hamstring in that preseason,

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 3>game was out had a tough time cracking the lineup

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.839
<v Speaker 3>after that with. Injuries he comes out in year two

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 3>and obviously has a breakout. Season Junior, coulson you, know

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 3>misses time and OTAs with an injury appendck to, me you,

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 3>know ir with an ankle.

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Injury you know when he.

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Was on the, field had a tough time really sort

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 3>of you, know transitioning and acclimating to the speed of

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 3>THE nfl. Game now he heads into year two after

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 3>a rookie season that was kind of. Derailed does he

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 3>follow the same path As. DAYAN i think there's reason

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:38.760
<v Speaker 3>to believe that that's like a potential.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Outcome.

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i don't see any reason why. Not you, KNOW

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>i felt like he was in the conversation as the

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>best linebacker on the draft last. Year he was the

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>arguably the most important player on a national championship. Team

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and it never. Fails it was, like, oh, gosh Justin Justin, Jackson,

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>right a guy that never missed a freaking play in

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>his college career gets to THE nfl and is just

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>perennially injured and hopefully that is obviously not the. Kid

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 1>those two things could be. Related, yeah, yeah very. True,

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 1>yeah you're out there for a lot of. Snaps you

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>take a lot of hits and next thing you, know, it's,

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>uh it's. Over did we miss anything anything? Else that

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>is just kind OF i, know it's going to be

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of. Easier only get Into OTA's and you,

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>know stuff's going to get a little bit more clear

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and we'll have a little bit more to talk about.

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 2>AFTER i, see if you talk about the, quarterback what

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>do you want to say? Where so here's WHERE i.

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 2>WROTE i obviously he number.

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<v Speaker 1>Number, one Guy mac was your number, TWO i remember. That,

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 1>yeah three Was.

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Durwin, yeah and then But Kai backton was number five

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 2>by the.

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Way, yeah you Had hampton in the top ten IF

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>i remember right. TOO i think he was. Twelve he was, Twelve, Okay.

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i had him like fringe top. Ten Oh, lad that's,

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Right lad was In lad was Fo yeah.

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Obviously.

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i, mean So ladd is, like what is he

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 3>going to be able to do when he actually has

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:56.240
<v Speaker 3>other pieces around?

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Him?

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, like what are we talking about?

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Here he like not terrified that he's gonna get blown

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 1>to shreds because he's taken so many freaking targets and

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>hits every game.

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 3>EXACTLY i mean he had hit one hundred and ninety

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 3>seven yards in That texans game and he's getting triple. Covered,

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 3>yeah you, know it's like it's it's easy to let

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 3>your imagination run wild there as far as what what

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 3>sort of he can. Be but, YEAH i mean with

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 3>here's WHAT i wrote With, justin like they got to

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 3>get back to the. Playoffs but like the only talking

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 3>point Around Justin herbert is going to Be kenny won

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 3>a playoff. Game until he wins a playoff, Game like

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 3>that's that's become what it. Is some of it is

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:28.799
<v Speaker 3>fair and some of it's. NOT i think the way

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 3>that they lost the two playoff games that he played,

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 3>in you, know especially In houston where he played like

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 3>WHAT i think was you, know the worst game of his.

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 3>Career but that's sort of. It the big point THAT

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 3>i came back, to, though was like stay, Healthy like

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 3>that's got to be priority number. One that's the most important,

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Thing like be out there for all of training camp

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 3>and and you, know avoid some of these. Hits carolina

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 3>game that's a perfect, example, right like that ball out exactly.

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Exactly SO i think he has to get to a

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:03.720
<v Speaker 3>point where he realizes that his availability and being something

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:06.320
<v Speaker 3>close to one hundred percent over the course of a

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.759
<v Speaker 3>season is like the most important, thing you, know BECAUSE

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 3>i think that you, know it has a cascading. Effect you,

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 3>know when the starting quarterback with a new regime and

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 3>a new offense and all these new, pieces misses three

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 3>weeks of training camp and then by week two is you,

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 3>know toughing it out with his high ankle. Sprain that

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 3>affected everything about the. Offense it affected what they were

0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:28.800
<v Speaker 3>able to, Run it affected the, chemistry it affected the,

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 3>performance all of. It so that's the key thing for,

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 3>me be on the field all of training, camp avoid

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 3>some of these injuries that seem a little bit, avoidable

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 3>and see if you can get this thing to coalestion

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 3>a way that it didn't really last.

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Season, Yeah AND i think to, me part of that

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:48.720
<v Speaker 1>is AND i know some people might think it's, counterintuitive

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:52.279
<v Speaker 1>but it's. NOT i, mean the data bear out that,

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 1>run get out, there get, this get defenses on their

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 1>heels a little bit more so they're not teeing off

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 1>on you on what was a little bit of a

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:03.959
<v Speaker 1>soft interior of the offensive. Line you, know take off

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and have, them you, know plant seeds of doubt in their,

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.840
<v Speaker 1>brains so they don't have their ears pinned back and

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 1>they're constantly just firing off the line of. Scrimmage and,

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.720
<v Speaker 1>look a lot of that is that high ankle sprain

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and health and not being able to run as much

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>as you. Want but we know how good he is at,

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it and you, know when you're calling a game from

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:25.919
<v Speaker 1>the seventh, level it's easier to see it for us

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 1>than maybe it is for. Him but how many of

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>those mesh points where we're, like, oh just if you

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>just keep, it, man it's right, there there's fifteen twenty

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 1>yards waiting for you and you're not gonna get. Touched you,

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.280
<v Speaker 1>know there's five seven yards you're not gonna get. Touched

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>AND i feel, like especially with zero rushing attempts in

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the wild card, game it's, like that's that's got to

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 1>become a to, me a much bigger part Even and it's,

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 1>this we say the same, thing just sprinkle it. In

0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not the identity of the, offense but it's it's a,

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 1>weapon and it's a weapon that defenses have to prepare.

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 1>For but you've got to do it exactly a couple you,

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>know you got to do. It you got to be

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:09.480
<v Speaker 1>good at it a few times a, game and that's

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>all it, is.

0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Exactly it's not necessarily the. Production it's the. Threat that's what's. Important,

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah but, slide.

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, slide get out of, bounds don't take on linebackers,

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:20.279
<v Speaker 1>yet get.

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Down we know you're capable of doing. It you don't

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:23.399
<v Speaker 2>need to see it. Again.

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah and that's and and that's the other thing,

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>too is like when you're running a mesh With amari

0:53:27.960 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>And hampton and and he's you, know in this run

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 1>game is now working and everyone's biting on. That my,

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 1>gosh the opportunities they're going to be there compared to

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:39.319
<v Speaker 1>years past and what the running game. Was if this

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 1>running game can be what it, is that's we had

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>a question on one of them AND i was, like,

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 1>oh what Can justin do? Better AND i, said, look

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 1>we're nitpick and It's Justin. Herbert he's incredible at. EVERYTHING i.

0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Said but if it's one, thing, YEAH i think you

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>just got to keep that ball a little bit more

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.799
<v Speaker 1>on those on those option plays and and take off

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 1>because it's. There and if it's, THERE i assume you're

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.879
<v Speaker 1>seeing it in, film you, know later in the, week

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, dude just take a few of. Those

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>AND i think that that Helps Greg roman out a.

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Lot and that's the other thing With, roman for all

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the incoming he, Took like just think about what he

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>did With Will disley and what he's done in his

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:16.279
<v Speaker 1>career with these tight. Ends and now you bring In,

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 1>conklin WHO i know Isn't George kittle Or Sam, laporta

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 1>but he's a good receiving tight end with really good,

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>hands and he's a really good red zone. Target and

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:28.799
<v Speaker 1>now you bring in an athlete Like Arondez gadsden and, Like,

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 1>okay now you feel like with these big, Backs greg's

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:34.320
<v Speaker 1>got some things he can cook with And i'm anxious

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to see what he's able to do with. It.

0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, YEAH i imagine we're going to see a much

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:40.960
<v Speaker 3>more explosive, offense you, know both in the run game

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 3>and obviously the pass. Game you, know they just what

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:45.800
<v Speaker 3>they what they were. Missing last year in the passing

0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:49.439
<v Speaker 3>game was, like, okay nothing's. Open you, know they got

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 3>caught with a you, know man beater against his Own, look,

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 3>okay what happens?

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Now where can justin go with the football and.

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 3>He needs that, option just let him chuck it down the,

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 3>sideline you, know one on one to somebody that can go

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 3>make a, play, right and they just like didn't have

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 3>that guy last. Year, obviously they bring back the guy

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 3>that's done it for The chargers better than anybody In Mike.

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Williams but Like Trey harris is that type of, Guy,

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:12.720
<v Speaker 3>like give him an option when everything sort of breaks

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 3>down to use his arm, talent throw it downfield and

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe you're able to make some fifty to fifty plays

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:19.759
<v Speaker 3>that they weren't able to make last.

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Year. YEAH i just you, know you think about The

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>houston game and you, know he chucks that ball down

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>To quinton and you could see at the second that

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>left his, Hand you're, like this is this is? Terrible

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like this is you, know this is this is not.

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 1>IT i don't The quinton was not even turned around.

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Yet he was just kind of running straight like you,

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 1>know THE dB is already reading. IT i think it

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was lasted or IF i remember, right and it was

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 1>just like this is now what are we? Doing? Yeah

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.959
<v Speaker 1>and so you get a guy Like mike And Trey

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 1>harris that we've, seen you, know it was supposed to

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>BE Dj shark last, year and it just, wasn't and

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 1>so it's, Yeah and that's the thing With mike. Two

0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>he's you, know now you're now you're two years removed

0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>from an. Injury that for a guy that, size that

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>needs that explosiveness to be what he, is that's two years.

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:08.879
<v Speaker 1>REMOVED i think that's gonna go a long. Way then

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.560
<v Speaker 1>one year removed from a guy that's in his whatever

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it was seventh, day ninth. Season so.

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, also you're going from a quarterback who says you

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 3>have to be on the red line to make the

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 3>catch versus a quarterback And Justin herbert who's like doing

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 3>What mike, asks which is.

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Just throw it up. There. Bro, yeah like throw it up.

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 3>There And justin is not afraid to do that To Mike,

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 3>williams and no chemistry is already built, In like it's

0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 3>the proof of concept is. There you don't have to imagine.

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 3>It just, go you, know pull up Some Mike williams

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 3>highlights and you'll see.

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 1>It AND i would say to that, gentleman if he's

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>not out of the red, line just throw it to

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the red line then instead of four yards behind, him

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:45.160
<v Speaker 1>because you didn't throw it to the red line, Either so, whatever,

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever you were looking for and whatever you were, doing

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>it just did not. Compute all. RIGHT i think that's,

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.719
<v Speaker 1>uh it's probably. Good appreciate, it, dude that.

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:54.520
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<v Speaker 1>Right we'll be back next week OTAs and likely another.

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.240
<v Speaker 1>COORDINATOR i think we're chasing down Either Greg roman Or

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Ryan ficken since we already got Coach minter out of the,

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>way so we get one of those two next, Week

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