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Speaker 1: Why don't we start with kind of what's There's really
Speaker 1: not a lot going on, but there is Phase two
Speaker 1: going on. Have you learned anything since the draft about
Speaker 1: this team? Signings non signings depth, the fact that they
Speaker 1: added a wide receiver on a rookie tryout, and Campbell
Speaker 1: just kind of what's happening in the Daniel Popp Rise
Speaker 1: as you look at the Chargers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so out at Phase two practice earlier this week,
Speaker 3: just kind of moseying about the sideline looking at guys.
Speaker 3: You know, one big thing was like this whole Zion
Speaker 3: Johnson the center thing I've been talking about since February
Speaker 3: was an idea and now we saw it in practice,
Speaker 3: or at least I did for the first I'm on
Speaker 3: Tuesday with him actually snapping balls to Justin Herbert. I'm
Speaker 3: fascinated to see what happens there as far as his transition,
Speaker 3: if their idea of what they think is going to
Speaker 3: happen actually materializes what happens on the interior. McKai Beckton
Speaker 3: is really big. That's another thing that jumps out. And
Speaker 3: you know, obviously, you know, my mind always goes to
Speaker 3: the offensive line first, but you know, you start envisioning
Speaker 3: Mkai Beckton and Joe Alt double teaming defensive linemen on
Speaker 3: the right side of that line in the run game,
Speaker 3: and your imagination starts to run wild a little bit.
Speaker 2: And then you look at these receivers.
Speaker 3: Man, you know, you see Justin Herbert throwing routes against air,
Speaker 3: you know, to a couple of these rookies.
Speaker 2: You look at Aronde Gadson their fifth round pick.
Speaker 3: You know, you look at all these explosive pieces they
Speaker 3: added to the offense, and you start thinking about, okay, like,
Speaker 3: how different is this going to look this year compared
Speaker 3: to last year when it was basically the Ladd mcconukee
Speaker 3: show and not much else. You know, how is Justin
Speaker 3: Herbert going to be able to attack down field, which
Speaker 3: you know, when we've seen him at his best, that's it,
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's really being able to tack with
Speaker 3: with players who can access the deep part of the
Speaker 3: field and then you know, Joe Hortiz and Jim Harbob
Speaker 3: said it. But you see the defensive lineman out there.
Speaker 3: You see that group working with defensive line coach Mike Elston,
Speaker 3: and they are big and they are deep, and I'm
Speaker 3: really curious to see among that group like who really
Speaker 3: like takes over and becomes the guy. You know obviously
Speaker 3: that you know, we had the same kind of questions
Speaker 3: heading into last year and it was ended up being
Speaker 3: poon Afford, But you could you could you could tell me,
Speaker 3: you know, five different guys that becomes sort of like
Speaker 3: the guy in that group who you know is getting
Speaker 3: the most playing time, producing the most. It could be
Speaker 3: Teer Tart, could be Jamark Caldwell, you could tell me,
Speaker 3: it could be Deshaun Hant. You know, I really like
Speaker 3: the way that he played on film for Miami against
Speaker 3: the Run. So just a few things there, but yeah,
Speaker 3: just kind of you look around the practice field and
Speaker 3: you're all right, looks a little bit different, but you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of potential, you know in some of
Speaker 3: these groups with them that they've made and how they've
Speaker 3: sort of restructured the roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of the one thing with this particular regime
Speaker 1: or iteration of Chargers football now and it's not going
Speaker 1: into its ninth year here in Los Angeles. That I
Speaker 1: feel with this particular team is just depth. I feel
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of depth out there, you know
Speaker 1: it is it blue chips? Don't know? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to say that, Yeah, there's blue chips out
Speaker 1: there right now, you know, but Putaford turned into a
Speaker 1: blue chip player, you know, on a low money deal,
Speaker 1: and I look at it and it's just like, Wow,
Speaker 1: there's so much depth that we're gonna have. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have a hell of a time. We always have fun
Speaker 1: doing the fifty three popper. I think the fifty threes.
Speaker 1: Is it four running backs? Is it seven wide receivers?
Speaker 1: Is it four tight ends? Is it five tight ends?
Speaker 1: If you include a full back. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different I guess ways that this roster could
Speaker 1: be constructed based on how they want to play and
Speaker 1: the amount of players that they've kind of thrown into
Speaker 1: this mix save one group, like the one group that
Speaker 1: I look at and I'm like, Wow, it's O line
Speaker 1: And it's like you just kind of think about what's
Speaker 1: behind that You know, if it's going to be the
Speaker 1: same starting front, you know, plus Mackay, Beckeden and Tray
Speaker 1: is your swing. I kind of look at what's behind that,
Speaker 1: and that's the one where I circle and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I could see them maybe keeping an eye on cuts
Speaker 1: and guys that are performing somewhere else. But otherwise I
Speaker 1: feel I mean, tell me if you feel like I'm
Speaker 1: missing something here, I feel pretty good just based on
Speaker 1: sort of the money they gave Dante Jackson and you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a lot, but it's enough to suggest, Okay,
Speaker 1: they think he's going to be a viable contributor to
Speaker 1: this team in Saint Jus just kind of fits what
Speaker 1: they like, you know, and I think he's a tracy
Speaker 1: guy that they like, and they're like, yeah, give this
Speaker 1: guy to clink and you'll see him take the steps.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's if there's one position that I
Speaker 1: look at, it's that one. It's like, wow, I could
Speaker 1: I could see them looking for a better interior backup
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in case back then as an injury history,
Speaker 1: you know, something happens there or with Zion or with
Speaker 1: with Bozeman. You know, I think everybody's kind of talking
Speaker 1: a little bit now about Andre James and maybe there
Speaker 1: were some you know that the falloff last year wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily because of the offense, but there could be an
Speaker 1: issue you know, medically that that he was dealing with,
Speaker 1: and you wonder whether or not he's passed that. So
Speaker 1: to me, that's that's the one position group that I'm
Speaker 1: looking at and I'm like, Okay, who's still out there?
Speaker 1: Who can they get for that bargain or that that
Speaker 1: you know late day three pick that they could you know,
Speaker 1: the Elijah Molden deals that they were making, that they
Speaker 1: could go out and scoop up to just kind of
Speaker 1: help that particular room out a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it sort of speaks to the depth
Speaker 3: that that's the position group you bring up, and I
Speaker 3: agree with you, but like your things. You know, sixth
Speaker 3: offensive lineman and Trey Pipkins has started you know what,
Speaker 3: forty something games in the league. Yeah, you know, your
Speaker 3: your seventh offensive lineman, Jamari Salier has started at two
Speaker 3: different positions and over the over a full season.
Speaker 2: So like it, like it could be a lot worse.
Speaker 3: Like, trust me, you and I have both covered this
Speaker 3: team long enough to know that you could be in
Speaker 3: a much much worse position on your offensive line than
Speaker 3: they are in. But you know, I do agree with you,
Speaker 3: and that's probably my biggest question, you know, heading into
Speaker 3: OTAs and heading into you know, training camp, how does
Speaker 3: this work out?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And you can even throw Andre James in there. I
Speaker 3: mean Andre James has started sixty games, right, yeah, So
Speaker 3: but it's like, okay, how does this work out? You know,
Speaker 3: you know when the pads come on? You know, what
Speaker 3: does Zion Johnson look like at center? Is that actually
Speaker 3: going to work out? How does left guard shake out?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Is Brandon Taylor a guy that we are overlooking here
Speaker 3: as somebody who could potentially play left guard?
Speaker 2: I don't know. They're trying and there right now.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's all an idea right now, you know,
Speaker 3: with that group specifically, it's like you don't really know
Speaker 3: what you have until those pads come on and you
Speaker 3: start seeing these guys actually work and play through contact
Speaker 3: and all of that kind of stuff. But you know,
Speaker 3: I've been saying it for for months. At this point,
Speaker 3: like I felt like they probably needed two new starters
Speaker 3: on the interior to really get this thing to a
Speaker 3: place where they could play the way that Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 3: wants to play right now, it's it's looking like one
Speaker 3: new starter and and there are guys still out there
Speaker 3: right like on the on the free Asian market that
Speaker 3: potentially could come in.
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez is you know, yeah for sure?
Speaker 3: Right And if you're saying competitors welcome like you want
Speaker 3: right now, it could be you know, three guys battling
Speaker 3: at center and four guys battling at left guard like
Speaker 3: why not more right?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I think one thing it also tells you
Speaker 1: pop and you know this is like there's not a
Speaker 1: lot offensive linemen out there, man that you can find
Speaker 1: yourself d lineman. You can find edge rushers, you can
Speaker 1: find dprs and you know, is it easy? No, but
Speaker 1: you can. You know, those those guys, I feel like
Speaker 1: you can. You have a better opportunity to find them
Speaker 1: than you do, oh lineman. When people and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about high level when when teams find high level O
Speaker 1: lineman in less of the Houston Texans, they keep them,
Speaker 1: you know, and those guys just rarely bake the market.
Speaker 1: And so that's sort of the one thing that that
Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see how this Slater deal is is
Speaker 1: going to be squared away because you and I have
Speaker 1: talked about this for years now, and just how the
Speaker 1: number keeps going up and up and up, and I
Speaker 1: don't know how that reconciles with this front office where
Speaker 1: it could have been twenty eight last year and now
Speaker 1: it's I would imagine north of thirty based on his
Speaker 1: agent and what his agent wants and if you're representing
Speaker 1: these guys and he's an all pro, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's just and look, I've done this before, man. I
Speaker 1: have done this dance with Derwin, I've done it with Bosa,
Speaker 1: I've done it with Herbert, and ultimately it gets done.
Speaker 1: We talked to Joe Ortiz last week and he said
Speaker 1: all the right thing. He's like, come on, man, of
Speaker 1: course we're going to get Slater back. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. It's just you know, working through it. But
Speaker 1: I just kind of look at it through that financial
Speaker 1: lens of and this deal got a lot more expensive.
Speaker 1: I would imagine from Rashawn's side, from his agent side,
Speaker 1: that this deal with the jump in the cap, with
Speaker 1: the non quarterback pay percentage of cap that non quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are getting now at edge and at you know, with
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett and at wide receiver with Chase I just
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a little bit tougher
Speaker 1: than maybe some people are.
Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'd say about that, it takes two
Speaker 3: to make a deal. So Rashaun Slater in his camp
Speaker 3: also would have had to want to make a deal
Speaker 3: last year versus betting on him and knowing that there
Speaker 3: were deals that were gonna get done, and knowing that
Speaker 3: if he played well and entered this offseason without a
Speaker 3: contract extension, that he would probably make more money. So
Speaker 3: I think that's part of it, right, But ultimately, like
Speaker 3: like you said, you mentioned those guys, like all of
Speaker 3: those deals went either right up to the edge of
Speaker 3: training camp. Within Thurwin's case, it went to August seventeenth.
Speaker 3: I looked this up, you know, the timing of all
Speaker 3: this stuff, even like Keenan's extension went right up until
Speaker 3: like Labor Day when he signed.
Speaker 2: His that was the third contract.
Speaker 3: The other guys are obviously second contracts, and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a new front office, but Ed maguire is still
Speaker 3: negotiating the contracts and it's the same ownership and so
Speaker 3: like this is sort of the process. You know, they're
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna negotiate, right and like at this point,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe it's like still a little bit early,
Speaker 3: but as it gets towards training camp, like like the
Speaker 3: number is the number at that point you're negotiating over
Speaker 3: like the minutia of the contract, and like the agents
Speaker 3: are are trying to get the absolute best deal for
Speaker 3: their clients. And then when they come to the table
Speaker 3: again or they're trying to get new clients, they can
Speaker 3: point to things that they.
Speaker 2: Were able to negotiate.
Speaker 3: So I the way this has always happened historically, Like
Speaker 3: my guess is it's like report day, day before report day.
Speaker 3: Maybe it extends into training camp like it did with Derwin,
Speaker 3: but that deal was, like the Durwin deal was basically done.
Speaker 3: It was two weeks of like haggling over like the
Speaker 3: minutia of the minutia of the contract and then you know,
Speaker 3: but Derwin was at practice and like eventually.
Speaker 2: It gets done and it becomes like.
Speaker 3: A total afterthought, you know, by the start of the
Speaker 3: regular season.
Speaker 2: So it just it it makes sense.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, like the market
Speaker 3: is the market, Like if you if you have a
Speaker 3: left tackle that is an elite player, like you're gonna
Speaker 3: pay him a certain amount of money. It's not like
Speaker 3: they're gonna get some huge discount here because they're playing,
Speaker 3: you know, tough at the negotiating table now when he's not.
Speaker 1: All pro, not when he's an all pro left tackle.
Speaker 1: It's just exactly right and.
Speaker 3: Also the way you want to play, like right, like
Speaker 3: like when you're when when your run game coordinator Andy
Speaker 3: Bischoff comes out in his first press conference and he says,
Speaker 3: we have an O line centric building and you have
Speaker 3: an elite left tackle and you don't pay him top
Speaker 3: of the market, Like those two things don't know that
Speaker 3: you know, don't line up, you know, so ultimately, like
Speaker 3: if you're gonna be a physical, dominant line of scrimmage team,
Speaker 3: like you better be paying your elite offensive lineman, you know,
Speaker 3: like their elite offensive lineman based on what the market
Speaker 3: is on you.
Speaker 1: And I think it also sends a signal to your
Speaker 1: first round, top five pick from last year, like we
Speaker 1: appreciate you. This is this is an O line, you know,
Speaker 1: tip of the spear. O line is a weapon, play
Speaker 1: physical football, Like it's just like you said, it runs
Speaker 1: in step with everything that's been messaged by this front office,
Speaker 1: this coaching staff of how they want to build a team.
Speaker 1: So again I just for me, it's and there's no
Speaker 1: scar tissue there, right, I've never I've done this is
Speaker 1: my ninth year. I've never once had a contract issue
Speaker 1: lead to a trade going into a season because they
Speaker 1: weren't able to resolve it. So you know, on that front,
Speaker 1: it's not like I have anything that that I can
Speaker 1: point to to say, yeah, I'm just worried about this
Speaker 1: thing happening again and just haven't seen that, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could say Keenan from last
Speaker 1: year when he refused to take a pay cut, But
Speaker 1: that was totally understandable. I think based on you know
Speaker 1: that that Joey and Khalil took a pay cut, that
Speaker 1: they were thirty whatever million dollars over the cap, and
Speaker 1: you couldn't bring that guy back not taking a pay
Speaker 1: cut when the other two guys did. That was a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, different.
Speaker 3: I thought that that situation probably could have been handled
Speaker 3: differently from from keenanside.
Speaker 2: I think the one thing I will.
Speaker 3: Pay from from that side, Yes, the one thing I
Speaker 3: could bring up with Rashan though, is like, you do
Speaker 3: you do wonder if the injury stuff is factoring into
Speaker 3: this negotiation. Right, missed all of twenty two, you know,
Speaker 3: had a bit of a down year in twenty three
Speaker 3: as he was battling ankle issues. You know, had the
Speaker 3: peck injury last year. Obviously he was able to play
Speaker 3: through it, but you do wonder if that does you know,
Speaker 3: factor into sort of the thought process there. And obviously,
Speaker 3: like you know, it's a cold business when you get
Speaker 3: to the negotiating table, like everything becomes a thing that
Speaker 3: you're talking about.
Speaker 1: So I was wondering if I were in his camp,
Speaker 1: my pushback on that would be is, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what a lot of other guys would out, they would
Speaker 1: they would set out. But Rashaan is is a freaking
Speaker 1: psycho and a warrior and is all about protecting Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert and that's why he was out there. And but
Speaker 1: you're right, it's like what's the vast And then you
Speaker 1: just kind of look at you know, when you're trying
Speaker 1: to read these tee Lea's and you look at Baltimore
Speaker 1: and you look at their offensive line and particularly tackles.
Speaker 1: They like giants, you know, they like these massive human beings.
Speaker 1: And Joe Walt and Mackai backed then and and I think,
Speaker 1: and look, that's why the Chargers were able to draft
Speaker 1: Rashaan Slater because there were people that were concerned about
Speaker 1: the size, about the length, and all he is is
Speaker 1: just the best technician in football. And once he gets
Speaker 1: his hands on you, it is absolutely over.
Speaker 2: Just watch that. I don't I don't care about it.
Speaker 2: Just watch the film.
Speaker 3: Like if they're having questions about that because he doesn't
Speaker 3: fit a certain profile, just go watch the film.
Speaker 2: And that's all you need to know exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't want to it's a waste of my time.
Speaker 1: But I am actually segueing into something else, and that
Speaker 1: is these first three games of the season, and why
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this has got to get figured out
Speaker 1: in training camp, Like this is not a okay, we
Speaker 1: gotta you know, because it's Chris Jones and the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: it's Christian Wilkins and the Raiders. It's that front of
Speaker 1: of you know, that front seven of Denver that's gonna
Speaker 1: be coming after that interior line. And they're all division games,
Speaker 1: and I mean that's I mean, when you look at
Speaker 1: that at what the Broncos did this offseason and DJ
Speaker 1: Jones and Cooper and Greenlaw and Alan like it is
Speaker 1: a I don't want to say no name, but you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's not that splash, but man,
Speaker 1: that's a good front and that that old line is
Speaker 1: going to be tested. Like you're you're Zion Johnson and
Speaker 1: you got freaking Chris Jones lining up over you and
Speaker 1: you're trying center for the first time in a game.
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm talking about on this particular position group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm with you.
Speaker 3: Like in I went into the offseason feeling like they
Speaker 3: were going to be aggressive and trying to fix this
Speaker 3: because it was bad in Houston. Like if you want
Speaker 3: to point to one thing that went wrong there, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, go nine plays into the game and you'll see,
Speaker 3: you know, Zion and Bradley Boseman, you know, unable to
Speaker 3: pick up a stunt in the interior, leading to you.
Speaker 2: Know, pressure. So you know, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I think like from their eyes, like if McKai Beckton
Speaker 3: is playing at the level he was playing for with
Speaker 3: the Eagles, and he's on the field and he's available,
Speaker 3: you know, the idea is that he's going to elevate everybody.
Speaker 2: Everybody, Yeah, you know, which I think is fair.
Speaker 3: I don't really have any questions about like what McKai
Speaker 3: Beckton can be. I think you can probably ask the
Speaker 3: question like, Okay, you know how much of it was
Speaker 3: Jeff stoutlind the Eagles offensive line coach. Is he going
Speaker 3: to continue to play at that level? But if he's
Speaker 3: on the field, I think he's going to be a
Speaker 3: very clear upgrade at the position.
Speaker 2: To me, it's like how many games are you going
Speaker 2: to get out of him?
Speaker 3: Because you talk to some people around the league and
Speaker 3: they look at what happened with the Eagles and they're like,
Speaker 3: that's the aberration, Like getting eighteen games out of that
Speaker 3: guy between the regular season and the playoffs. Like is
Speaker 3: he going to be able to you that now, we
Speaker 3: did play sixteen games the year before with the Jets,
Speaker 3: and maybe he's put this stuff behind him, But like
Speaker 3: we've we've gone down this road before where you feel
Speaker 3: like the Chargers go out and free agency and they
Speaker 3: fix a problem with an injury. You know, a player
Speaker 3: with an injury history like Brian Buloga is a great example,
Speaker 3: like Boom signed Brian Bulaga immediately right tackle set, and
Speaker 3: we got hurt the first first game of the season,
Speaker 3: and then all of the Sun contract and then it's
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you're you're on Storm Norton and
Speaker 3: it's like it's it's not good, you know, so you know,
Speaker 3: and but that's you know, it's a good problem to have,
Speaker 3: you know, Like there's been years past where you're talking
Speaker 3: specifically about like, Okay, the starters are not good enough,
Speaker 3: but now it's like, okay, do you have enough contingencies?
Speaker 3: And they do have players that have played, but I'm
Speaker 3: one hundred percent with you like that is my focus
Speaker 3: is like what happens at center, what happens at left guard?
Speaker 2: How much do you get him a Kai backed in?
Speaker 2: And have they done enough.
Speaker 3: Here to improve what was the biggest weakness of the
Speaker 3: team last year in my opinion, And and we're going
Speaker 3: to find out, like you said right away, you know,
Speaker 3: and I you know, and I love what the Broncos did.
Speaker 2: Like this offseason.
Speaker 1: I was probably the best off off season in football.
Speaker 1: I think when you tell you, now, look, Drake Greenlaw's
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of thirty. He's coming off a
Speaker 1: serious injury. They gave him thirty million dollars. It's that's there.
Speaker 1: They're risks when you when you make these sort of deals.
Speaker 1: But I think they clearly had you know, they clearly
Speaker 1: had positions they wanted to address. They wanted that stretch,
Speaker 1: you know, the field athletic tight end, they got it.
Speaker 1: And Evan Ingram. They wanted some some juice in the backfield.
Speaker 1: They got it in R. J. Harvey. You know, they
Speaker 1: wanted to provide depth on that front. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like everything and then what do they do. They make
Speaker 1: arguably one of the strongest rooms in the NFL, even
Speaker 1: stronger with Joddy Baron, Like it's just love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the one thing about the Broncos is and I
Speaker 1: know it's you know, it's it's I can't say why,
Speaker 1: but it's I don't know about Bonick Schet. I know,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say. I just don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm buying it yet, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm really buying it. Just yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's and there's no reason for it other than it
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty clunky for a handful of games there.
Speaker 1: It was really good looking for a couple of games there.
Speaker 1: I'm just not quite sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was clunky until he played the Chargers that
Speaker 3: first time and almost started running around. Yeah how many
Speaker 3: times that happen to the Chargers, by the way, But
Speaker 3: next turns his season around against the Chargers. They obviously
Speaker 3: win the game, but like they couldn't keep him in
Speaker 3: the pocket. That for remember Jordan Love, Jordan Love was
Speaker 3: essentially going to be out of the league, and.
Speaker 1: It was in one half. It was the second half
Speaker 1: of that game where just busted coverage after busted coverage
Speaker 1: and palms in the air and we're flying home from
Speaker 1: Green Bay and the charter going the hell was that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: I literally had players in the Chargers locker room ask
Speaker 3: me like, did we just like make that guy's career?
Speaker 2: And I was like maybe.
Speaker 3: I remember, like at the halftime of that game at LAMBA,
Speaker 3: I remember having a conversation with Matt Schneidman, who covers
Speaker 3: the Packers for us, and I'm really like, are they
Speaker 3: sure about this guy? Likely talking about Jordan Love after
Speaker 3: the first half, right, the second half happens, he leads
Speaker 3: him back and then you.
Speaker 2: Know, the rest is history. You know, playoff run, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, going back, I'm sorry, Papa, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, unless you if you have something, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, just kind of going back to the old line.
Speaker 1: I think it's also, you know, a signal from the
Speaker 1: front office and the running backs they now have populating
Speaker 1: that room, you know, And I think even you hear
Speaker 1: the way they talk about Rhene Sanders and here's another
Speaker 1: guy that's two hundred and twenty, two hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: five pounds. You know, they're all two twenty plus. I mean,
Speaker 1: now she's two forty, for God's sake. So it's clear
Speaker 1: there's this shift and they want these guys going this
Speaker 1: way and not this way. And that's something we just
Speaker 1: did not see enough of last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the running back room is is really solid. I
Speaker 3: mean I think, like I know, there are there are
Speaker 3: sections of the fan base that were like running back
Speaker 3: at twenty two, and this is Omarion Hampton is going
Speaker 3: to be a fan favorite by like week two, Like
Speaker 3: he's gonna have one run in the opening game of
Speaker 3: the season where he just trucks a safety and people
Speaker 3: are and and by by the you know, by week three,
Speaker 3: you know, there's gonna be a mari and Hampton jerseys everywhere.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just I'm I'm very confident that this guy
Speaker 3: is going to be a difference making player. And you know,
Speaker 3: you talk about last year right, like they did catch
Speaker 3: lightning in a bottle a little bit with JK Dobbins,
Speaker 3: But you know, he misses that big stretch of the season.
Speaker 3: You know, he played thirteen games, but that those four
Speaker 3: games he missed were really big.
Speaker 2: You know, Gus Edwards was battling injuries.
Speaker 3: They didn't really have the two headed monster that they
Speaker 3: were that they were hoping for when they when they
Speaker 3: signed Gus and JK last year.
Speaker 2: Nor did they.
Speaker 3: Really have that like consistency. But I love the way
Speaker 3: this room is fitting together. Like Naje Harris, they bring
Speaker 3: in like he is what he is, Like is he
Speaker 3: a home run hitter or no, But like sometimes you
Speaker 3: need guys that are contact hitters, that are doubles hitters.
Speaker 3: You can hand off the ball and they're gonna go
Speaker 3: get what's blocked for them, and they're gonna play with
Speaker 3: a certain level of physicality and they're gonna be on
Speaker 3: the field every week Like it's going to be seventeen games, durability, toughness,
Speaker 3: like that's important, and then you go out and get
Speaker 3: an explosive guy like Omar and Hampton, and now you're like,
Speaker 3: it's not like a Marion Hampton has to come in
Speaker 3: and be the number one back right away, like you
Speaker 3: can hand it off de Naja Harris and O Marion
Speaker 3: Hampton has time. But like it's a different looking backfield.
Speaker 3: It's a different looking backfield, and I think it's all
Speaker 3: geared towards getting this offense to play within the philosophy
Speaker 3: of Jim Harbaugh, Like you want to be able to
Speaker 3: physically dominate and if the offensive line there, we'll see,
Speaker 3: you know. I think if Mkai Beckton can stay in
Speaker 3: the field that right side, it's pretty solid.
Speaker 1: But I think it's been missing right like they've never
Speaker 1: been able to run right, Like it's it's we've been
Speaker 1: like Myers, you're running left more and that is the
Speaker 1: one thing. You know, Zion and Rashaan did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job of blocking it up in the run game,
Speaker 1: and you saw production to that side. And then even
Speaker 1: last year, I know we were just scratching our heads
Speaker 1: like why can't they run right? Like what is going
Speaker 1: on with this team and now with that pair that
Speaker 1: that could certainly dramatically change this this offense and get
Speaker 1: some defensive linemen on their heels instead of on their
Speaker 1: toes so much, which we've seen for the last it
Speaker 1: feels like three four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well the first question is why can't they run right?
Speaker 3: And then later in the season is why are they
Speaker 3: still running right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly exactly right the.
Speaker 2: Way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, you feel like the run game
Speaker 3: is going to be improved just because of what the
Speaker 3: backfield is. You know, a Marion Hampton is a guy
Speaker 3: that's going to be able to make something out of
Speaker 3: nothing in a.
Speaker 2: Big way, very consistently.
Speaker 3: JK did it at times last year, but it's you know,
Speaker 3: Amari and Hampton's going to present a completely different animal,
Speaker 3: I think in that regard. So I love what they've
Speaker 3: done with the running back room. But you know, going
Speaker 3: back to something you said earlier that I thought was
Speaker 3: a good point, you know, it's a it's a deep roster.
Speaker 3: I give them a lot of credit for building a
Speaker 3: deep roster, but but where are those blue chips? I
Speaker 3: think that's the big question, you know, And and they're
Speaker 3: going to need guys to step up into into those positions, right,
Speaker 3: Like I think you even look at edge rusher like
Speaker 3: last year, you know, it was the strength of the
Speaker 3: defense and they built the defense around the edge rushers.
Speaker 3: Now you lose Joey Bosa. You know, you still feel
Speaker 3: like cloon Mack can be a high level player. But
Speaker 3: he's thirty four. You know who's stepping up in that
Speaker 3: room like toy Blow two is going to be you know,
Speaker 3: starting players.
Speaker 1: You have him ranked pop Popper on the Athletic Another
Speaker 1: reason why you should subscribe twenty to number one most
Speaker 1: important Players for the upcoming Charger season. Where'd you put
Speaker 1: two Lee? Because I would assume he's the top ten, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fringe eleven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, you know, me, I had four offensive
Speaker 2: linemen in the top ten because I'm a psycho.
Speaker 3: But I mean I've watched enough football in my life
Speaker 3: to know, like that's how you win football game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we watched it in Houston. Why it did.
Speaker 1: But Tully to me is, you know, and I read it.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make it sound like I did.
Speaker 1: And I read the articles. They're great, but I just
Speaker 1: remember him kind of being right there and me saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: like Tuley's gotta this is Tooley's time though you know
Speaker 1: you're you're now the guy. It's ew and Khalil and
Speaker 1: we've seen those flashes and the November was it November
Speaker 1: October last year where he had the wild production for
Speaker 1: a month, like, let's see it, man, because it feels
Speaker 1: like it's in there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I wonder with Tully, like, because some people have
Speaker 3: brought this up to me, like, do you think you know,
Speaker 3: if he's if he's become if he becomes a starter
Speaker 3: and he's not playing you know, three hundred to four
Speaker 3: hundred special team snaps, does that impact you know, his
Speaker 3: production because I think I think if they can find
Speaker 3: other players, you know, if Kyle Canard takes over, for example,
Speaker 3: his special team snaps, it.
Speaker 1: Makes sense that he would, right based on how he's
Speaker 1: built in the profile. I mean, it looks like Chris
Speaker 1: Rump kind of you know sort of deal, right, a
Speaker 1: little bigger. Yeah, well you could say that for just
Speaker 1: about anybody. Sorry Chris.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so you know I wonder, you know, obviously
Speaker 3: he has this opportunity to take over this number two
Speaker 3: role and be a starter. You know, can they afford
Speaker 3: to take some special teams off his plate so that
Speaker 3: he's fresher on defense. And what does that mean for
Speaker 3: you know, his production? And you know, obviously like he
Speaker 3: produced last year, I don't know if like I think
Speaker 3: it was eight and a half sacks, nine sacks something
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, I don't think he really played at
Speaker 3: that level consistently. I actually thought his tape was better
Speaker 3: as a rookie than a second year player. But I
Speaker 3: could I could see an argument otherwise. So you know,
Speaker 3: can can you get the consistent down to down, you know,
Speaker 3: pass rush productivity from him with an increased roll on
Speaker 3: defense and maybe maybe taking some of that special teams
Speaker 3: off his plate with other younger players moving into that role.
Speaker 1: I mean, geez, poor Ryan ficken Man, just his his
Speaker 1: special team's got absolutely rated this offseason. But I think
Speaker 1: also credit to Geortiz is you know, you bring Troy
Speaker 1: Die back, and you you know, it looked like a
Speaker 1: lot of these picks, you know, especially Mickens and Bridges
Speaker 1: and Canard, like it feels like, okay, I can see, yeah,
Speaker 1: these guys absolutely fit that profile. Dean Leonard still on
Speaker 1: the team, John Taylor, I believe, Yeah, they're up there,
Speaker 1: both still on the team, so at least you still
Speaker 1: have some core for stalwarts you know out there that
Speaker 1: that can help. I think you know a guy that
Speaker 1: I could totally see being one of those core four guys,
Speaker 1: and it's just such fun tape to watch the splash
Speaker 1: plays is Steve Oklotts. You know, Yeah, that's that Guy's
Speaker 1: got Ryan Ficken written all over him. Is like probably
Speaker 1: his favorite player that we're going to see when these
Speaker 1: OTAs in training camp gets rolling.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I don't know if he's gonna make the
Speaker 3: fifty three, but that's a guy to circle for the
Speaker 3: practice squad that's gonna get an elevation in like week
Speaker 3: six and play a bunch of special team snaps.
Speaker 2: I loved his film.
Speaker 3: It's like he's he's really he's not like a big dude,
Speaker 3: but he just gets after it in the run game.
Speaker 3: And now, like you understand why, like jam is bringing
Speaker 3: up Steve O. Klatts's press conference when you go watch
Speaker 3: his tape, because you know, you can line up at
Speaker 3: h back, tight end, full back and he gets downhill
Speaker 3: and he gets after people in the run game, So like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's a guy absolutely you could see called
Speaker 3: up and and uh, you know, make an impact on
Speaker 3: special teams in the game middle of the season when
Speaker 3: they're battling some injuries and you know, maybe play ten
Speaker 3: to twelve snaps on offense. But I mean that's the
Speaker 3: life going back to Ryan Ficken, you know, that's the
Speaker 3: life of a special teams coach.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I mean it's every year you got turnover and you're
Speaker 3: piecing it together and you're getting young guys that, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I played a ton of special teams in college, and
Speaker 3: then they come in and they're raw and you got it,
Speaker 3: you know, right, and you gotta.
Speaker 2: Figure it out.
Speaker 3: And you know that's why I think, you know, I
Speaker 3: think it's unfortunate that special teams coaches do get looked
Speaker 3: over a little bit when you're talking about you know,
Speaker 3: head coaching hirings and interviews and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Like there's no.
Speaker 3: Coach outside of the head coach on the roster that
Speaker 3: has to be more familiar with the entire roster than
Speaker 3: special teams coaches because they have to look under every
Speaker 3: rock and every nook and cranny to find guys that
Speaker 3: they think can play consistent football for them.
Speaker 2: And Ryan Picken has done a really good job.
Speaker 3: But I think that was a little bit of a
Speaker 3: part of what happened last year, you know, especially on
Speaker 3: the punt unit. You know, I don't think JK. Scott
Speaker 3: had a good season, but there were so many pieces
Speaker 3: rotating through there, you know, guys off the practice squad
Speaker 3: and waivers and you know, and they had so many
Speaker 3: injuries there early in the season, between Jah and Dean
Speaker 3: Leonard at a hamstring and Nick Neeman you know, missed
Speaker 3: the first four games of the season. So it's going
Speaker 3: to be interesting to see, like how some of these
Speaker 3: young guys, some of these rookies, you know, impact special
Speaker 3: teams because ultimately, like it does matter when you know,
Speaker 3: obviously the plays themselves. We're talking about Tooley, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he if they're they're going to take special team snaps
Speaker 3: off his plate, somebody has to take those on and
Speaker 3: they have to be close to as good.
Speaker 2: As Tooley is, right, so really good, right.
Speaker 3: So, and if they don't have somebody that can take
Speaker 3: those snaps, then all of a sudden, Tuley has to
Speaker 3: play three hundred and fifty special team snaps and then
Speaker 3: you watch, you wonder how that affects his his defense.
Speaker 3: So it all sort of pairs together, but I do
Speaker 3: want to say that special teams coaches deserve a little
Speaker 3: bit more love.
Speaker 1: And then you're going, let's see, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: kind of go into the who's still available in the
Speaker 1: edge market out there? Von Miller? You want a thirty
Speaker 1: six year old Von Miller who made twenty million bucks?
Speaker 1: Matt Judaan, I know we've talked about him, But for
Speaker 1: Zadarias Smith, Preston Smith, You'davi and Clowney. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: still guys out there, and I think that may be
Speaker 1: that that's something probably to.
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on and go and go with five.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I think if Thicken's like, hey, dude, these
Speaker 1: guys aren't ready, we got to keep tu Lee out there,
Speaker 1: and then you just kind of take a little bit
Speaker 1: off his plate and you can go pluck like they
Speaker 1: did with Bud. Whether they give him nine million year,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, kind of a little bit later
Speaker 1: and in that second.
Speaker 2: I think it was total nine million.
Speaker 1: It was two years yea two years nine. So that's
Speaker 1: interesting thing that that could make sense if if it's
Speaker 1: not working. The one just kind of speaking to that,
Speaker 1: the the Steve Oclots and like the back end there.
Speaker 1: Like so many people. When they they signed him as
Speaker 1: a priority undrafted free agent, We're like, oh, Rahem Sanders,
Speaker 1: and I was like, slow down, you got a son.
Speaker 1: Haskins is a special team stalwart and short yards back.
Speaker 1: He's making the team. You just drafted Hampton, You've got
Speaker 1: Najie Harris, they just drafted Kamani Videll last year. And
Speaker 1: then I started watching a little bit more Rahiem Sanders,
Speaker 1: and then I started listening to the coach and then
Speaker 1: we talked to Geortiz last week and you just saw
Speaker 1: his face light up when he was talking about Oz
Speaker 1: at the South Carolina game when we were in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: and then I busted this run and I was like
Speaker 1: that's and I'm like, Okay, I think this guy might
Speaker 1: he might be pushing, you know, if they feel like
Speaker 1: he can fill that role with a little more explosiveness.
Speaker 1: Then I just think Haskins, to me, was one of
Speaker 1: the more underappreciated players last year because of how much
Speaker 1: he did on special teams and pass pro and when
Speaker 1: he had to be a fullback, he was a full bed.
Speaker 1: There was just a lot there and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't see them moving on from him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're if you're a running back trying to
Speaker 3: make it in the league, go look at Hassan Haskins.
Speaker 3: And if you can play that style, and you can
Speaker 3: and you can play a ton on special teams, and
Speaker 3: you can tackle, and you can be athletic and physical
Speaker 3: in that phase, you're going to make a lot of
Speaker 3: rosters as a third running back because you just need
Speaker 3: that flex, right, you know, you need that flex deeper
Speaker 3: in your running back room. And so I agree, I
Speaker 3: think that the spot to watch is the fourth running
Speaker 3: back spot. You know, depending on how roster shakes out.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a big, big off season for
Speaker 3: command of idell. You know, like like that's one like
Speaker 3: the linebacker versus running back one on one pass protection drills,
Speaker 3: those periods during training camp. I will be watching very
Speaker 3: closely because he obviously has some juice. You know, he
Speaker 3: caught that touchdown pass.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The first place the issue is like can he get
Speaker 3: to the NFL level in terms of pass protection because
Speaker 3: he had a really rough game against the Bucks and
Speaker 3: it makes you sort of scratch your head and say, like, okay,
Speaker 3: there's a long way to go there with a full
Speaker 3: off season. You know, how does he look in terms
Speaker 3: of being able to take on linebackers from a physical standpoint,
Speaker 3: but also identification things of that.
Speaker 1: Key right there to me is that he's got to
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 2: It's just it.
Speaker 1: It felt he felt a little bit slower than it
Speaker 1: tick slow last year and got to the point where
Speaker 1: you know, dangerous and yeah, and so that'll be yeah, fourth,
Speaker 1: fourth running back versus seventh wide receiver is just I
Speaker 1: know they did it out of training camp last year
Speaker 1: with Brendan Rice. I just can't see it this year.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that money. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Did we talk you out of it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, I talked you out of it. I was like
Speaker 1: Aaryan seven wide receivers, You're crazy, Pop. It was the
Speaker 1: last the last we were in the booth.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were at annual, Yeah my annual?
Speaker 1: Or were we in Dallas? Were we in Dallas?
Speaker 3: Or were we Honestly, I can't I can't remember exactly
Speaker 3: where we were in the booth. For the final preseason game,
Speaker 3: I was like set, I had my fifty three set.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going seven receivers. No one's going
Speaker 3: to convince me otherwise, I'm taking the best fifty three.
Speaker 3: These seven receivers have all earned a spot. I like
Speaker 3: had my my logic was all ironed out, and I
Speaker 3: went and DJ was like, no shot.
Speaker 1: No shot, damn.
Speaker 2: Like this guy worked with Joe, Yeah he might, like
Speaker 2: he's got to know.
Speaker 3: And then I got moved off my spot and I
Speaker 3: will never happen again.
Speaker 1: What you did? You put Traman Morris Brash in there.
Speaker 1: I think instead as the U as the I can't.
Speaker 2: Remember I did something that I regret.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again. I don't think they carry
Speaker 1: seven out. I just don't. I don't. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, you know, it's it's the two rookies. It's
Speaker 1: Mike Williams Quinton you know obviously, lad and figure it out. Man.
Speaker 3: I have six right now, So I have my running
Speaker 3: fifty three going already because again I'm a psycho, so
Speaker 3: I've already.
Speaker 2: Because it's it's just a good way.
Speaker 3: It's good to get the process started early, so just
Speaker 3: so you can see, like, okay, where are the pressure points,
Speaker 3: like where the competition is sort of going to be
Speaker 3: shaping up.
Speaker 2: So I have six right now, lad Trey Harris, R.
Speaker 3: KLS, Mike Williams, Darius, and then I have Quintin in
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: But like this is a big off season for Quentin too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they took two guys that can play your position,
Speaker 3: you know, like in theory, if you put Mike at X,
Speaker 3: like it could be Trey Harris at Z could be
Speaker 3: KLS and Z right, so, and and Quentin can't play X,
Speaker 3: Like that's it's not it's not gonna happen at this point.
Speaker 1: I think it's clear based on who they signed and
Speaker 1: who they drafted, and and then you look at the tryout,
Speaker 1: Like I said, the fact that they then signed you know,
Speaker 1: Dale Von Campbell, who's another six', four two hundred and you,
Speaker 1: know five pound outside. Receiver it's like clearly there was a.
Speaker 1: Type you, know there was, speed and there was, size
Speaker 1: and there were guys that PLAYED x and you know in.
Speaker 1: College and SO i think you're, Right like it's For.
Speaker 1: Quentin you, KNOW i feel LIKE i always feel bad
Speaker 1: talking about it because by all, accounts great, guy hard,
Speaker 1: worker you, know all of those, things and typically that
Speaker 1: when you're a first round, pick that goes a long.
Speaker 1: Way you're not a, Jerk you're not you, know you're not,
Speaker 1: complaining you're not slacking trying to get. Better it's just
Speaker 1: those you, know you have The raider game in week
Speaker 1: whatever it was week, eighteen, right and then and then
Speaker 1: you have the playoff, game and it's, like, uh which
Speaker 1: which is? It you? Know so, Yeah I'M i struggled
Speaker 1: to BECAUSE i could tight end AND i, see you,
Speaker 1: know obviously four and you know With, Disley, Conkling gadsden And,
Speaker 1: fisk all four of those guys are making.
Speaker 3: It and you, know, YEAH i mean you could you
Speaker 3: could like potentially Stash fisk on the on the practice.
Speaker 1: SQUAD i just thought he was, good he was no.
Speaker 3: But how many, teams how many teams in the league
Speaker 3: are looking for that skill, set you, know, right and
Speaker 3: maybe more than in the past because the teams are
Speaker 3: starting to run the ball a little bit, more but.
Speaker 1: Right and then it comes down To Matt locke and
Speaker 1: that development and they've invested so much there and the
Speaker 1: idea that they're just going to be, like, yeah, well you,
Speaker 1: Know fisk can fill that role and that's how you
Speaker 1: save that spot. There but it just feels like you,
Speaker 1: know between how coaches talked about him and how much
Speaker 1: they've invested in trying to get him to be a full,
Speaker 1: back and the fact that he did gradually get better
Speaker 1: week after week toward the end of the, year it
Speaker 1: would feel weird that they would just kind of throw that.
Speaker 2: Aside, Yeah AND i mean the flexibility is, great.
Speaker 3: Right you stash him on the roster and you play
Speaker 3: him at defensive tackle and he'll give you functional. Player
Speaker 3: you can play them on offense And i'll give you functional, play.
Speaker 3: Right even you can can play on special. Teams you,
Speaker 3: know he's playing on the kick return unit last year
Speaker 3: with the new kickoff, role so, RIGHT i am curious,
Speaker 3: though like is it gonna be the same role as
Speaker 3: last year or if he, doesn't or if he's on the,
Speaker 3: roster is it going to be like an offense.
Speaker 1: ONLY i, mean what do they. Say they preach it
Speaker 1: all the time with every, position, right just flexibility much
Speaker 1: how much flexibility means for, them you? Know and and
Speaker 1: the fact that you, know like you Heard Jesse minner
Speaker 1: talk about it with, corners with, SAFETIES i want my
Speaker 1: best five on the. FIELD i don't care what position they're.
Speaker 1: PLAYING i want them on the field and you heard
Speaker 1: that with offensive, Line, well we Think zion can play,
Speaker 1: Center bradley can play. Guard we love the flexibility at
Speaker 1: tray and it's like it's a team that preaches that
Speaker 1: all the, time and so you, Know Matt, LOCKE i
Speaker 1: know it's a little bit, different but, yeah between special
Speaker 1: team snaps offense, SNAPS i mean you can you can
Speaker 1: get worn down pretty quickly. There it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see if he is going to be a full time
Speaker 1: fullback and if they're going to run those packages all
Speaker 1: the time like it felt like they did last year
Speaker 1: with this bigger. Backfield that's it's way too early to
Speaker 1: go through the fifty. THREE i didn't mean to take
Speaker 1: that direction, here but it just gets fun doing. IT
Speaker 1: i love, that you, KNOW i know we talk about
Speaker 1: it all the. Time i'm sure you already have your
Speaker 1: preliminary fifty three sitting in front of you that you're constantly.
Speaker 3: MOVING i, do, well it's fifty four right, now just
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i haven't like narrowed it, down BUT i do
Speaker 3: have like a running kind just BECAUSE i want to, see, like,
Speaker 3: okay where if we're going to be making.
Speaker 2: Decisions, here like what are the.
Speaker 3: Decisions you, Know i'm really curious, about, like you, know
Speaker 3: the corner, room how the corner room and so.
Speaker 1: WHAT i was just it's, FUNNY i was just looking
Speaker 1: at that as we're. Talking i've got it here in
Speaker 1: front of, me and you, know the one name that
Speaker 1: obviously jumps out and again Sorry Ryan, fickett It's John. Taylor,
Speaker 1: Right it's, like where where does joh fit into? This
Speaker 1: when it felt like he kind of lost his position
Speaker 1: last year and kind of took a step back on
Speaker 1: the depth chart after being given an. Opportunity the weird
Speaker 1: thing for me last year was just that we didn't
Speaker 1: see More Dean, leonard you, know based on sort of
Speaker 1: what we saw from him in camp and in some
Speaker 1: of those preseason, games that he wasn't a guy that
Speaker 1: got some more.
Speaker 2: Reps, yeah, No i'm with.
Speaker 3: YOU i loved WHAT i saw From Dean, leonard specifically
Speaker 3: in the preseason. Games he made a couple of plays
Speaker 3: that were really really. Impressive, SO i, mean here's the
Speaker 3: thing With. Jah he had a pretty significant injury In
Speaker 3: week one of last, year and he played through, it
Speaker 3: and you got to give him credit for playing through.
Speaker 3: IT a lot of guys would not have played through
Speaker 3: the injury that he, had AND i think that really,
Speaker 3: affected you, know how he was able to. Play you
Speaker 3: saw he was in and, out constantly getting worked on
Speaker 3: on the. Sideline you, KNOW i was expecting a big
Speaker 3: jump from, him and you, KNOW i think the injury
Speaker 3: kind of derailed his. Season BUT i think when you
Speaker 3: when you talk About josh specifically with this year's fifty,
Speaker 3: three this year's, roster he can play well in the.
Speaker 3: Slot he showed us that he can play well at,
Speaker 3: nickel AND i think you kind of need that with
Speaker 3: the way the room is set up right. Now Obviously
Speaker 3: drwin's going to be playing a lot in the, slot
Speaker 3: but After, derwin It's tarheb, right and then it's, like,
Speaker 3: okay where's your you, know where's your depth? There which
Speaker 3: is WHY i, think you, Know jock potentially have a
Speaker 3: route to fifty three because you look at the rest
Speaker 3: of the, Guys Cam hart outside Only Dante jackson is
Speaker 3: an outside, Guy Benjamin saint ju just, Outside Dean leonard.
Speaker 3: Outside Tar heeb can obviously play. Both jah has played,
Speaker 3: both but has played as better football as a as
Speaker 3: a nickel, Player so that.
Speaker 2: Would be my only.
Speaker 3: Reason you, know they do have some some of these
Speaker 3: undrafted free agents that project as potential nickel. Guys, yeah
Speaker 3: but that would be my only point On John.
Speaker 1: Taylor, yeah it's and again IT'S i think you said,
Speaker 1: it and everybody really picked on him last, year you,
Speaker 1: know and and it's it's not. Fair he easily could
Speaker 1: have just SAID i can't do it and and not
Speaker 1: been out there and and avoided all of. That the
Speaker 1: defensive line, group, AGAIN i DON'T i feel like that's pretty.
Speaker 1: SETTLED i can't imagine them unless it's the whole special
Speaker 1: teams thing With. TULEY i don't think there's an interior
Speaker 1: alignment that they're gonna go, pluck you, know if he
Speaker 1: gets cut. SOMEWHERE i feel like they're kind of settled.
Speaker 1: There we've heard a lot about a boyg bee and
Speaker 1: putting on that twenty pounds of, muscle and we were
Speaker 1: told he was a developmental player last year and not
Speaker 1: to you know that this is someone who's, raw And
Speaker 1: elston's gonna work with him and have some, patience and you,
Speaker 1: know by all accounts that's exactly how it played. Out
Speaker 1: AND i mean you saw, him you're out there at phase.
Speaker 1: Two does he look a lot different than he did last.
Speaker 1: Year he looks, bigger.
Speaker 3: But, yeah we'll see when the pads come. On you,
Speaker 3: know that's sort of Where i'm. At but you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i think it's LIKE i guess the POINT i would
Speaker 3: make is like in the, past when we talked through
Speaker 3: the roster like this at this. Stage you, know under
Speaker 3: previous regimes you're talking about, Like, okay this guy has
Speaker 3: to make a, jump like this guy is, starting and
Speaker 3: if he doesn't make a, jump they have nothing behind.
Speaker 3: Him WHAT i WHAT i appreciate about what this regime
Speaker 3: does is you have so many contingencies built in where
Speaker 3: like If justin And boygbe makes a, jump, Great if he,
Speaker 3: doesn't you have other options as far as guys that can,
Speaker 3: play WHICH i think the big difference THAT i see
Speaker 3: between how these two regimes are pro roster.
Speaker 1: Building, yeah, no that's fair. Point you know it's nake One.
Speaker 1: Jones it's To sean. Hand obviously we saw Tier tart
Speaker 1: was a you, know rotational get him in there on
Speaker 1: passing downs only, player and, man he just. Flashed he just,
Speaker 1: like get that guy more snaps and and same thing With.
Speaker 1: Poona the way you, know the thought going into the
Speaker 1: season when he was signed of what he might be
Speaker 1: compared to what he. Became one of the things that
Speaker 1: was interesting with with the conversation that that you know
Speaker 1: we had with with Coach minter was you, know him,
Speaker 1: saying you, know the fact that everybody wants to pigeonhole
Speaker 1: us is his own D it's just who we. Had he's,
Speaker 1: LIKE i would much rather be able to play more, man.
Speaker 2: It's still who they have. Though.
Speaker 1: YEAH i, think, WELL i think that's sort of the
Speaker 1: that's sort of the you, know the The Saint, juice
Speaker 1: the the the traits based kind of idea of can
Speaker 1: you get these big bridges as a traits sort of,
Speaker 1: guy can you coach them up to a point where
Speaker 1: we saw them coach up to guys saying you, know,
Speaker 1: Look Cam harr played really well on the outside when
Speaker 1: he was, healthy AND i did not see that on
Speaker 1: That Notre dame film at.
Speaker 2: All LIKE i w key part of that statement, though
Speaker 2: is one, healthy.
Speaker 1: Right and that's BUT i Just i'm speaking to the
Speaker 1: coaching when they're given a guy with these sort of
Speaker 1: traits and, like, hey we can coach them into, this
Speaker 1: and we, can but you're, RIGHT i, MEAN i DON'T
Speaker 1: i don't see a press. Man put him on the
Speaker 1: island and we're good if we can we can kind
Speaker 1: of take everything else and worry about. IT i don't
Speaker 1: see that on this.
Speaker 3: Team, yeah but it's also, LIKE i, mean you're also
Speaker 3: obviously you're playing into what you.
Speaker 2: Have but you, know Like tarivs still like he's.
Speaker 3: Going to be at his best when he's playing in
Speaker 3: a lot of his own. Coverage like he's very an
Speaker 3: instinctive players great when he can see it and drive
Speaker 3: down you.
Speaker 2: Know so, YEAH i get where he's coming.
Speaker 3: FROM i, MEAN i think every defensive coordinator would love
Speaker 3: you know, too all pro corners in the outside and
Speaker 3: you play man all the. Time, yeah but free everybody up,
Speaker 3: Right BUT i think like the way that, LIKE i
Speaker 3: don't think the room is different this year where they're
Speaker 3: all of a sudden going to be playing a ton
Speaker 3: of man.
Speaker 1: Cover now that that would have to be something that gets.
Speaker 1: Plucked and, again premium. Position rarely do those guys become,
Speaker 1: available and you're not going, to like you, said go
Speaker 1: out and find a guy that's that you're comfortable putting
Speaker 1: out there on an island and changing the way you.
Speaker 1: Play the one thing that THAT i, that you, know
Speaker 1: AND i should do a better job of pushing your
Speaker 1: your top twenty BECAUSE i believe he was in there
Speaker 1: IF i remember. Right But Junior colson is a Big,
Speaker 1: yeah he's a HUGE x factor because of What dayon.
Speaker 1: Did AND i was having this conversation with O'Neil this
Speaker 1: week just how it's funny that you look at how
Speaker 1: much money some of these off ball linebackers got because
Speaker 1: the market was so, thin and you're, like damn they got,
Speaker 1: that you, know that kind of, Scratch and here The
Speaker 1: chargers could go into the season with arguably the best
Speaker 1: room in the. League If colson's what we think he could,
Speaker 1: become And dayon takes that step To Pro, bowl all pro,
Speaker 1: level it could really end up being the strength of this. Defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah SO i had both of those guys in my top.
Speaker 3: TWENTY i had Day on at number. SIX i just
Speaker 3: kept inching him, up LIKE i THINK i had him at.
Speaker 3: Ten But i'm just, like, man there's so much left
Speaker 3: in the tank for. Him you, like he was really
Speaker 3: good last, year but you think about some of those
Speaker 3: ops he had for you, know interception, sacks like the
Speaker 3: sack like if he makes that sack On Patrick mahomes
Speaker 3: against The chiefs late in the, season right on the final,
Speaker 3: play like he played really really. Well but if he
Speaker 3: starts making some of these plays that were on the
Speaker 3: table for, him you, know what level can he get?
Speaker 3: To AND i just kept inching him, up AND i
Speaker 3: feel like he's going to be really really. Important he's
Speaker 3: gonna be the green dot signal. Caller he's you, know
Speaker 3: if that one linebacker that's playing in all packages including
Speaker 3: dime is really really important to your.
Speaker 2: Defense SO i agree with you.
Speaker 3: There and THEN i Had junior at eighteen of my
Speaker 3: rankings BECAUSE i think if this defense gets to the
Speaker 3: level that they wanted to get, to it's going to
Speaker 3: be dayon and it's going to Be junior and those
Speaker 3: guys are going to be the. Starters and you Have
Speaker 3: denzel as as in troidae as. Depth BUT, i you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i go back TO i feel like we're watching
Speaker 3: that practice together money during training, camp or he got
Speaker 3: into eleven on eleven for the time and they were
Speaker 3: doing the nine on seven run and he just blew
Speaker 3: up a play in the backfield AND i was and we.
Speaker 2: Looked at each other and we're like, yep, yeah all,
Speaker 2: Right and.
Speaker 3: Like my opinion hasn't, changed like just because he had
Speaker 3: a couple of injuries and like his rickitis through training,
Speaker 3: camp right and then the ankle injury during the. Season
Speaker 3: but like every TIME i think, About, okay What's Junior
Speaker 3: colson going to, BE i think about that one play
Speaker 3: from training, camp And i'm, Like.
Speaker 2: Okay that's what that's what he can.
Speaker 1: Be and And i'm not saying He's Patrick. Willis WHAT
Speaker 1: i am saying is when you were on a football
Speaker 1: field standing Watching Patrick, Willis you're, like look at that freaking. Guy,
Speaker 1: yeah That's. Colson. Man when you're standing there and you
Speaker 1: see that lower, Half you're, like my, god and he's
Speaker 1: moving like, That like that's the sort of Physical AND
Speaker 1: i think it's, interesting you know that that for all
Speaker 1: of the attention that those d lines get In San,
Speaker 1: francisco it's hard to Ignore Drake Green lawn And Fred,
Speaker 1: warner you, Know Patrick, Willison Navarro, Bowman like how important
Speaker 1: that level of the defense, is you, know and was
Speaker 1: and and sort of got overlooked because all these teams
Speaker 1: started spreading it out and running eleven and you had
Speaker 1: to get speed out. There and now just feels like
Speaker 1: it's it's swinging back and you're gonna have to have you,
Speaker 1: know two linebackers out, there and who know who, knows
Speaker 1: maybe three in the next couple of. Years it's going
Speaker 1: to get back to.
Speaker 2: That back to the base, Defenses, vagas that's real.
Speaker 1: Football, exactly back to some base defense with how these
Speaker 1: teams are running it. Now BUT i do think that
Speaker 1: THAT'S i love seeing both of those guys in there
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i do think that you, Know ashton genty on
Speaker 1: the on The raiders and with the you, know the
Speaker 1: older That mahomes gets and just sort of you, know
Speaker 1: running games are going to become more and more, PREVALENT i,
Speaker 1: think and having those linebackers going to go a long.
Speaker 3: Way, yeah it's a cycloker nation, click circular, nation circular,
Speaker 3: nation Cyclical i'm.
Speaker 2: Trying i'm combining circular and.
Speaker 3: Circular, yeah, cyclic the circular nature of like offensive foot
Speaker 3: OR i guess like schematics in general in THE.
Speaker 2: Nfl but you know what's really interesting is the.
Speaker 3: Parallels Between dayon's career and Potentially Junior coulson's. Career Right
Speaker 3: deayon came, in you, know pulled his hamstring in that preseason,
Speaker 3: game was out had a tough time cracking the lineup
Speaker 3: after that with. Injuries he comes out in year two
Speaker 3: and obviously has a breakout. Season Junior, coulson you, know
Speaker 3: misses time and OTAs with an injury appendck to, me you,
Speaker 3: know ir with an ankle.
Speaker 2: Injury you know when he.
Speaker 3: Was on the, field had a tough time really sort
Speaker 3: of you, know transitioning and acclimating to the speed of
Speaker 3: THE nfl. Game now he heads into year two after
Speaker 3: a rookie season that was kind of. Derailed does he
Speaker 3: follow the same path As. DAYAN i think there's reason
Speaker 3: to believe that that's like a potential.
Speaker 2: Outcome.
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't see any reason why. Not you, KNOW
Speaker 1: i felt like he was in the conversation as the
Speaker 1: best linebacker on the draft last. Year he was the
Speaker 1: arguably the most important player on a national championship. Team
Speaker 1: and it never. Fails it was, like, oh, gosh Justin Justin, Jackson,
Speaker 1: right a guy that never missed a freaking play in
Speaker 1: his college career gets to THE nfl and is just
Speaker 1: perennially injured and hopefully that is obviously not the. Kid
Speaker 1: those two things could be. Related, yeah, yeah very. True,
Speaker 1: yeah you're out there for a lot of. Snaps you
Speaker 1: take a lot of hits and next thing you, know, it's,
Speaker 1: uh it's. Over did we miss anything anything? Else that
Speaker 1: is just kind OF i, know it's going to be
Speaker 1: a lot of. Easier only get Into OTA's and you,
Speaker 1: know stuff's going to get a little bit more clear
Speaker 1: and we'll have a little bit more to talk about.
Speaker 2: AFTER i, see if you talk about the, quarterback what
Speaker 2: do you want to say? Where so here's WHERE i.
Speaker 2: WROTE i obviously he number.
Speaker 1: Number, one Guy mac was your number, TWO i remember. That,
Speaker 1: yeah three Was.
Speaker 2: Durwin, yeah and then But Kai backton was number five
Speaker 2: by the.
Speaker 1: Way, yeah you Had hampton in the top ten IF
Speaker 1: i remember right. TOO i think he was. Twelve he was, Twelve, Okay.
Speaker 3: YEAH i had him like fringe top. Ten Oh, lad that's,
Speaker 3: Right lad was In lad was Fo yeah.
Speaker 2: Obviously.
Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean So ladd is, like what is he
Speaker 3: going to be able to do when he actually has
Speaker 3: other pieces around?
Speaker 1: Him?
Speaker 2: Right, like what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Here he like not terrified that he's gonna get blown
Speaker 1: to shreds because he's taken so many freaking targets and
Speaker 1: hits every game.
Speaker 3: EXACTLY i mean he had hit one hundred and ninety
Speaker 3: seven yards in That texans game and he's getting triple. Covered,
Speaker 3: yeah you, know it's like it's it's easy to let
Speaker 3: your imagination run wild there as far as what what
Speaker 3: sort of he can. Be but, YEAH i mean with
Speaker 3: here's WHAT i wrote With, justin like they got to
Speaker 3: get back to the. Playoffs but like the only talking
Speaker 3: point Around Justin herbert is going to Be kenny won
Speaker 3: a playoff. Game until he wins a playoff, Game like
Speaker 3: that's that's become what it. Is some of it is
Speaker 3: fair and some of it's. NOT i think the way
Speaker 3: that they lost the two playoff games that he played,
Speaker 3: in you, know especially In houston where he played like
Speaker 3: WHAT i think was you, know the worst game of his.
Speaker 3: Career but that's sort of. It the big point THAT
Speaker 3: i came back, to, though was like stay, Healthy like
Speaker 3: that's got to be priority number. One that's the most important,
Speaker 3: Thing like be out there for all of training camp
Speaker 3: and and you, know avoid some of these. Hits carolina
Speaker 3: game that's a perfect, example, right like that ball out exactly.
Speaker 3: Exactly SO i think he has to get to a
Speaker 3: point where he realizes that his availability and being something
Speaker 3: close to one hundred percent over the course of a
Speaker 3: season is like the most important, thing you, know BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i think that you, know it has a cascading. Effect you,
Speaker 3: know when the starting quarterback with a new regime and
Speaker 3: a new offense and all these new, pieces misses three
Speaker 3: weeks of training camp and then by week two is you,
Speaker 3: know toughing it out with his high ankle. Sprain that
Speaker 3: affected everything about the. Offense it affected what they were
Speaker 3: able to, Run it affected the, chemistry it affected the,
Speaker 3: performance all of. It so that's the key thing for,
Speaker 3: me be on the field all of training, camp avoid
Speaker 3: some of these injuries that seem a little bit, avoidable
Speaker 3: and see if you can get this thing to coalestion
Speaker 3: a way that it didn't really last.
Speaker 1: Season, Yeah AND i think to, me part of that
Speaker 1: is AND i know some people might think it's, counterintuitive
Speaker 1: but it's. NOT i, mean the data bear out that,
Speaker 1: run get out, there get, this get defenses on their
Speaker 1: heels a little bit more so they're not teeing off
Speaker 1: on you on what was a little bit of a
Speaker 1: soft interior of the offensive. Line you, know take off
Speaker 1: and have, them you, know plant seeds of doubt in their,
Speaker 1: brains so they don't have their ears pinned back and
Speaker 1: they're constantly just firing off the line of. Scrimmage and,
Speaker 1: look a lot of that is that high ankle sprain
Speaker 1: and health and not being able to run as much
Speaker 1: as you. Want but we know how good he is at,
Speaker 1: it and you, know when you're calling a game from
Speaker 1: the seventh, level it's easier to see it for us
Speaker 1: than maybe it is for. Him but how many of
Speaker 1: those mesh points where we're, like, oh just if you
Speaker 1: just keep, it, man it's right, there there's fifteen twenty
Speaker 1: yards waiting for you and you're not gonna get. Touched you,
Speaker 1: know there's five seven yards you're not gonna get. Touched
Speaker 1: AND i feel, like especially with zero rushing attempts in
Speaker 1: the wild card, game it's, like that's that's got to
Speaker 1: become a to, me a much bigger part Even and it's,
Speaker 1: this we say the same, thing just sprinkle it. In
Speaker 1: it's not the identity of the, offense but it's it's a,
Speaker 1: weapon and it's a weapon that defenses have to prepare.
Speaker 1: For but you've got to do it exactly a couple you,
Speaker 1: know you got to do. It you got to be
Speaker 1: good at it a few times a, game and that's
Speaker 1: all it, is.
Speaker 3: Exactly it's not necessarily the. Production it's the. Threat that's what's. Important,
Speaker 3: Yeah but, slide.
Speaker 1: Yes, slide get out of, bounds don't take on linebackers,
Speaker 1: yet get.
Speaker 2: Down we know you're capable of doing. It you don't
Speaker 2: need to see it. Again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah and that's and and that's the other thing,
Speaker 1: too is like when you're running a mesh With amari
Speaker 1: And hampton and and he's you, know in this run
Speaker 1: game is now working and everyone's biting on. That my,
Speaker 1: gosh the opportunities they're going to be there compared to
Speaker 1: years past and what the running game. Was if this
Speaker 1: running game can be what it, is that's we had
Speaker 1: a question on one of them AND i was, like,
Speaker 1: oh what Can justin do? Better AND i, said, look
Speaker 1: we're nitpick and It's Justin. Herbert he's incredible at. EVERYTHING i.
Speaker 1: Said but if it's one, thing, YEAH i think you
Speaker 1: just got to keep that ball a little bit more
Speaker 1: on those on those option plays and and take off
Speaker 1: because it's. There and if it's, THERE i assume you're
Speaker 1: seeing it in, film you, know later in the, week
Speaker 1: and it's like, dude just take a few of. Those
Speaker 1: AND i think that that Helps Greg roman out a.
Speaker 1: Lot and that's the other thing With, roman for all
Speaker 1: the incoming he, Took like just think about what he
Speaker 1: did With Will disley and what he's done in his
Speaker 1: career with these tight. Ends and now you bring In,
Speaker 1: conklin WHO i know Isn't George kittle Or Sam, laporta
Speaker 1: but he's a good receiving tight end with really good,
Speaker 1: hands and he's a really good red zone. Target and
Speaker 1: now you bring in an athlete Like Arondez gadsden and, Like,
Speaker 1: okay now you feel like with these big, Backs greg's
Speaker 1: got some things he can cook with And i'm anxious
Speaker 1: to see what he's able to do with. It.
Speaker 3: Yeah, YEAH i imagine we're going to see a much
Speaker 3: more explosive, offense you, know both in the run game
Speaker 3: and obviously the pass. Game you, know they just what
Speaker 3: they what they were. Missing last year in the passing
Speaker 3: game was, like, okay nothing's. Open you, know they got
Speaker 3: caught with a you, know man beater against his Own, look,
Speaker 3: okay what happens?
Speaker 2: Now where can justin go with the football and.
Speaker 3: He needs that, option just let him chuck it down the,
Speaker 3: sideline you, know one on one to somebody that can go
Speaker 3: make a, play, right and they just like didn't have
Speaker 3: that guy last. Year, obviously they bring back the guy
Speaker 3: that's done it for The chargers better than anybody In Mike.
Speaker 3: Williams but Like Trey harris is that type of, Guy,
Speaker 3: like give him an option when everything sort of breaks
Speaker 3: down to use his arm, talent throw it downfield and
Speaker 3: maybe you're able to make some fifty to fifty plays
Speaker 3: that they weren't able to make last.
Speaker 1: Year. YEAH i just you, know you think about The
Speaker 1: houston game and you, know he chucks that ball down
Speaker 1: To quinton and you could see at the second that
Speaker 1: left his, Hand you're, like this is this is? Terrible
Speaker 1: like this is you, know this is this is not.
Speaker 1: IT i don't The quinton was not even turned around.
Speaker 1: Yet he was just kind of running straight like you,
Speaker 1: know THE dB is already reading. IT i think it
Speaker 1: was lasted or IF i remember, right and it was
Speaker 1: just like this is now what are we? Doing? Yeah
Speaker 1: and so you get a guy Like mike And Trey
Speaker 1: harris that we've, seen you, know it was supposed to
Speaker 1: BE Dj shark last, year and it just, wasn't and
Speaker 1: so it's, Yeah and that's the thing With mike. Two
Speaker 1: he's you, know now you're now you're two years removed
Speaker 1: from an. Injury that for a guy that, size that
Speaker 1: needs that explosiveness to be what he, is that's two years.
Speaker 1: REMOVED i think that's gonna go a long. Way then
Speaker 1: one year removed from a guy that's in his whatever
Speaker 1: it was seventh, day ninth. Season so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, also you're going from a quarterback who says you
Speaker 3: have to be on the red line to make the
Speaker 3: catch versus a quarterback And Justin herbert who's like doing
Speaker 3: What mike, asks which is.
Speaker 2: Just throw it up. There. Bro, yeah like throw it up.
Speaker 3: There And justin is not afraid to do that To Mike,
Speaker 3: williams and no chemistry is already built, In like it's
Speaker 3: the proof of concept is. There you don't have to imagine.
Speaker 3: It just, go you, know pull up Some Mike williams
Speaker 3: highlights and you'll see.
Speaker 1: It AND i would say to that, gentleman if he's
Speaker 1: not out of the red, line just throw it to
Speaker 1: the red line then instead of four yards behind, him
Speaker 1: because you didn't throw it to the red line, Either so, whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever you were looking for and whatever you were, doing
Speaker 1: it just did not. Compute all. RIGHT i think that's,
Speaker 1: uh it's probably. Good appreciate, it, dude that.
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