WEBVTT - Jason Marsden Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, can we talk about the shocking revelation when we

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<v Speaker 1>got together that Danielle Fishel is interested in camping. I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling me about this. This is not something I

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<v Speaker 1>ever would have expected from you, and I am so happy. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so many things have happened since I've becoming old, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is that, uh, well, for one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I no longer like to be in the sun, like

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<v Speaker 1>the sun. First of all, I've always hated the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not always take the sun. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>tropical child. We we went to Hawaii every summer as

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<v Speaker 1>a family. When I was a kid, the beach to

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<v Speaker 1>me was always a very calming place and I used

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<v Speaker 1>to love to just lay there with a book and

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<v Speaker 1>lay out in the sun. And then so and I

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<v Speaker 1>know people don't it's it's either you or it's not you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Sony Will. You're a tropical person, right, no?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no. Also, when you struggle with your weight most

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<v Speaker 1>of your life, the beach is not a safe, happy place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a place where everybody is comfortable to take off

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<v Speaker 1>their shirt and your people are going, why are you

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<v Speaker 1>wearing long sleeves? Yeah? Nor flashbacks? S Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I was I can't say I was ever really comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in a bathing suit, but I did really like the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>which doesn't make much sense, but so I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>just always love that. And so to me, any time

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<v Speaker 1>I would think of a vacation or wanting to get away,

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<v Speaker 1>or needing to disconnect or you know, feeling burnt out

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<v Speaker 1>needs some time, I would think tropical location. And then

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<v Speaker 1>as I've gotten older and I've wanted to stay away

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<v Speaker 1>from the sun, skin cancer runs in my family. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just not something I'm interested in doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I have become obsessed with the idea of connecting with

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<v Speaker 1>nature and like feeling grounded to Mother Earth and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>stars and trees and going on hikes and like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy hiking boots and I want to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a tent, and I want to figure out, like how

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<v Speaker 1>do you do that? And you know, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of I'm so excited about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to do it. I'm a little nervous because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, I'm also very controlling about like my

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<v Speaker 1>kids schedule, and so my kids are very used to

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping in their own bed with perfectly dark and white noise,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, so what you just sleep next to

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<v Speaker 1>your child and there's like natural light about in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and where do you put the sound machine on? Does

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<v Speaker 1>the sound machine borrow that, you know, bother the people

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping next to you in their tents. So I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little nervous about how it all works, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe it's good for me to just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>let it all go. And you do realize that the

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<v Speaker 1>white noise that you're simulating in the room is action

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<v Speaker 1>in the world by nature when you're outside. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it is out the world it is. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>just you're not You don't have to block out other sounds, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't realize how much extra noise there is just

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<v Speaker 1>by living in a city or even a town. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I watched my parents property, it is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always like shocking how quiet it is. Remember my

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<v Speaker 1>parents used to come visit me and be like so

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<v Speaker 1>many helicopters. I'm like, really, because I won't even notice

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore, you know, sirens going off all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents used to just freak out. I remember finally

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<v Speaker 1>realizing like, right, no, I'm just like blocking it out

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<v Speaker 1>constantly by living in a city. But what I would say, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>is that like that that that attitude about like being

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<v Speaker 1>prepared and like obsessing over like do we have the

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<v Speaker 1>right gear, And that's actually really good for camping because

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, camping is all about that. So you

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<v Speaker 1>actually have to put your energy into how how being

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<v Speaker 1>prepared and so it's it's it's it's it's a relaxing

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<v Speaker 1>activity in that you have to focus on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things to be prepared. Does that make sense,

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<v Speaker 1>So like you actually get to put all this energy

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<v Speaker 1>towards something and then when you realize like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>have our tents set up, we have our betting, we

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<v Speaker 1>have all our stuff, then we're just now we're just

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<v Speaker 1>in wilderness and there's nothing else to worry about. And

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<v Speaker 1>you reached this place of like absolute calm, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you like go backpacking, because there's nothing else to do

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<v Speaker 1>and you've hiked everything in that you need and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be prepared. You have to know like how

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<v Speaker 1>much of this is gonna weigh? How much food do

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<v Speaker 1>we have for how many days? But it ends up

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<v Speaker 1>being like extremely calming when you realize like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to worry about there's nothing else to do except

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<v Speaker 1>sit here or enjoy this lake or whatever. And what's

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<v Speaker 1>incredible as kids response so positively, Like we took a

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<v Speaker 1>group of kids camping like a year two ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them had never been camping before, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was super stressed out and we got onto the

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<v Speaker 1>wilderness and I remember my son and one of his

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<v Speaker 1>friends and they were like, we're bored like five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna kill somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, we're so bored. Five minutes after that,

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<v Speaker 1>they were enthralled with rocks and sticks and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like rocks and sticks for the rest of the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's all they cared about. And you just realized, like,

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<v Speaker 1>right at a certain point, your brain kicks, and kids

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<v Speaker 1>brains especially kick to this different gear where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's make up our own game here with this stick

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<v Speaker 1>and this rock, and it just is thoroughly entertaining. And originally, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up camping, So I grew up. Every weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends and I would go camping, and we we

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<v Speaker 1>did it really cool because we all had dirt bikes,

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<v Speaker 1>we all had motorcycles and so we would we would

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up tents and food and put them strapped into

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<v Speaker 1>the backs of our bikes and ride into the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>And we we built a dirt track in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods, so we'd be doing jumps and all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff all day, right in the track all day.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you'd set up the tent and we'd hang

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<v Speaker 1>out that night, and you know, you'd strap it back

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<v Speaker 1>to your motorcycle and you'd drive home. It was that

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<v Speaker 1>seems really dangerous with a glass eye. Okay, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a class. I were one class on techn Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a glass I discussed about I want the want the pirate. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh. And then the older I got, the less

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be outside. And then now I've done

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<v Speaker 1>something which I never thought I would do, which is

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to be in the city, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a city person at all, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>every time soon and I go to London, we look

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<v Speaker 1>around and go, Okay, I could live here easily. On extremes, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a hyper urban environment or complete isolated wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>What I can't stand is the in between, which hybrid America,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's in between, just what drives me crazy, Like

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm driving into town and there's strip balls and

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<v Speaker 1>like why like density, make it densify, densify this like

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<v Speaker 1>buildings that go up and you know, but the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of like sprawl, like stretching out taking up space with

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<v Speaker 1>buildings like Los Angeles of Los Angeles, well, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the real problem with Los Angeles. I have come to

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<v Speaker 1>love l A. I you know, we've talked a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit probably on the show about how much I used

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<v Speaker 1>to hate it growing up and being on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was always like being anti l A. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from northern California. That used to be like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the way you were raised. Um, And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was ridiculous. Like I love l A for its culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I love LA for its diversity and like just the

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<v Speaker 1>sheer amount of people and things to do like all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. The problem is the sprawl. It's so spread

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<v Speaker 1>out and the lack of trees. Um. I realized that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I need trees in southern California just doesn't have trees.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a neighborhood. It's a ton of trees. Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>And then maybe you're one of the few man like

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<v Speaker 1>even when you go on a hike in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's um like brush, you know, it's it's low,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not trees, it's not like big tall oaks or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and it's just a bummer. Like we've

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<v Speaker 1>just deforceded. And I mean l A wasn't really a

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<v Speaker 1>forested area to begin with as far as I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>but like we've deforested so much of southern California. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard for me. Like so when I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>like when we talk about getting out in nature, you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have to drive like two hours outside of

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<v Speaker 1>l A, like you know, other level of nature, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what your look because Danielle, our neighborhood, right at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of my street not just trees, but right at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of my street it goes into just dirt tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's there's great hiking all up around us up

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<v Speaker 1>and it's desert if you like, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>l A people I know love the desert. So they

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<v Speaker 1>escaped like Joshua Tree and it's just that's like their

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<v Speaker 1>happy place, you know, friends live in Palm Spring because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so powerful for them. For me, that's like like

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I like it at night, like stars obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need trees, I need mountains, I need streams

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<v Speaker 1>like Harry and Mountain. I find it disturbing. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just too it's too dry. It's there's no trees, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not enough there. Should we do want a pod meets

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<v Speaker 1>World camping excursion? Yes, absolutely we should. I think we did.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that idea. I want to go because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to camp again. I just said that to write.

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<v Speaker 1>He was telling me about a trip he tipped by himself,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I want to I want in

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<v Speaker 1>on one of those. Well, first of all, just plan

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<v Speaker 1>on coming up for the July at my parents house.

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<v Speaker 1>We do like big camp out every year my parents property,

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<v Speaker 1>and all these families come and kids have so much

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<v Speaker 1>fun and we just hang out for three or four

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<v Speaker 1>days and everybody it's it's basically a music festival without

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<v Speaker 1>any music, but it's become like it's such a wonderful bonding,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, community experience. Adler will come as a beat

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<v Speaker 1>bud great two three. Oh that was like a great band.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, are we going on the road with

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<v Speaker 1>this band that we started? Yeah, you guys were really great.

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<v Speaker 1>Writer on the drums. Adler wouldn't sing for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's really great as a singer. And then Will jumped

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<v Speaker 1>in on guitar. It was Yeah, we had wheels on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus. Was like, it might have been one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best versions I think since the Beatles did it

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<v Speaker 1>in what sixt four. We made up spooky wheels on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus this morning we did like a spooky version

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<v Speaker 1>see Halloween Themes where there were ghosts and were wolves

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<v Speaker 1>on the bus and they all said different things. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm Rider Strong,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Wilfredell. Our guest today is somebody you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have been asking for for a really long time. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We should have had him on when we did Model Family.

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<v Speaker 1>That was such a special episode for for Will. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was also Jason Marsden's very first episode. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>justin Justin Marsdale. Sorry calling him Jason Marston all these years.

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<v Speaker 1>Character name is Jason Marsden. Oh I think Jason Marson

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<v Speaker 1>was playing Jason Marsden. That's what it was. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so Jason Marsden played Jason Marsden on Boy Meats World

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<v Speaker 1>for nine episodes. His first appearance, as I mentioned, was

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<v Speaker 1>in Model Family, which was season one episode fifteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>his last appearance was season two episode twenty three, the

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<v Speaker 1>episode called home Wow. Nine episodes just between season one

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<v Speaker 1>and season two, and then I can't wait to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Let's welcome everybody justin Marsdale. Hell my god,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh stop it. Look at you? How are you? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>make him feel real special? Okay, great, all your faces.

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<v Speaker 1>You look like you're like inside. The actor's gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got like a studio and he's gotta it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm back stating the Muppet Show. It's unbelievable. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks great. It really does. It actually goes along very

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<v Speaker 1>well with my first question for you, which is we

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<v Speaker 1>all feel like you were maybe born a forty year

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<v Speaker 1>old who was just ready for television. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we just going into it? Oh yes, we've

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<v Speaker 1>already been interviewing you for twenty minutes. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was born forty years old? Is that what

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<v Speaker 1>you said? You were a seasoned actor is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say. Yeah, you were just like like in

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<v Speaker 1>your first appearance on Boy Meats World, and model family.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a stark contrast for you compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of us. I will speak for all of

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<v Speaker 1>us when I say that us, because we were flailing.

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<v Speaker 1>We were totally fumbling our way through it until we

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<v Speaker 1>finally felt felt comfortable in our skin. And then you appeared,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were like quippy and catchy and comfortable in

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<v Speaker 1>your skin and took ownership of the stage and knew

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<v Speaker 1>everything you were doing and found laughs in places that

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<v Speaker 1>weren't even written to be laughs. Were you just always

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<v Speaker 1>that way? Were you born to do this? You're too kind?

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<v Speaker 1>I was so nervous. I mean, if you remember they

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<v Speaker 1>brought me in like on show night. That made it

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<v Speaker 1>even more amazing, though, is that you did that on

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<v Speaker 1>the day And I was I was nervous and excited

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<v Speaker 1>because I you know, I had already had a friendship

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<v Speaker 1>with with Fredell already, and so get to work with

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<v Speaker 1>you was was a kick. And then and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, Fredell. I mean, let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>you were lucky to be there. The real stars, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Writer and Danielle. I had to try to

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<v Speaker 1>impress them, and you guys were kids, your kids for

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wasn't even in the episode, Thank you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even there. I remember trying to impress. I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking with like writer and Ben and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are just laughing at every stupid thing I said. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, because you impressed the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of us. Of course you were. I looked up for

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<v Speaker 1>you so much because you were such a pro, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you were so comfortable, you knew exactly what you were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you were so funny, and I just remember being like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what being an actor's act. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like for me, it was still just showing up

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<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, figuring it out as we went,

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<v Speaker 1>and like getting notes and being I just had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what I was doing. And I remember I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I had already met you before then, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>must have met you, like around town or something, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you just your reputation proceeded you by the time

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<v Speaker 1>you showed up on set. I remember just being in

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<v Speaker 1>awe of you and being takes and you would go

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<v Speaker 1>run around. No you know what it was. I always

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<v Speaker 1>equate sitcom, especially to music. It's a very specific song

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<v Speaker 1>and we hadn't learned the beat yet and you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You came in and were like, oh, I've been singing

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<v Speaker 1>this song for fifteen years. So it was that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Let's go, let's take it back even farther though.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you start in the entertainment industry? And why

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<v Speaker 1>were you ten years old? Because I know you were

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<v Speaker 1>ten years old when as the age that all of

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<v Speaker 1>us started. How old were you when you started? I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was eleven? Okay, what was? How did what

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<v Speaker 1>got you into the industry? My parents, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>moved to California and uh, someone had suggested to my

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<v Speaker 1>mother that, oh, you know, your son's cute, get him,

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<v Speaker 1>get him into acting. And my mom went to ching.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great idea. But they found a workshop and

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<v Speaker 1>Irvine that I believe still functioning to this day. There.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've shifted to more online stuff called del

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<v Speaker 1>Mar Media Arts and Hello Bud and Bunny Barth and

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<v Speaker 1>the Barth family. Uh, they saw something in me. They

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<v Speaker 1>trained me for twelve weeks. It was all ages. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like Thursday nights, seven thirty to ten thirty and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>kids adults, and we did they did everything. They'd tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how to slate for for commercials. They tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how to read copy for film. They did voiceover stuff. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they send me to an agent. The agent signed me

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<v Speaker 1>that day and then like then immediately started send me

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<v Speaker 1>out on movies, TV commercials, voiceovers, Uh and uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was very fortunate. What was your first worked? All

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<v Speaker 1>the time, I remember working constant, Like I remember like

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<v Speaker 1>turning on the TV at the Oakwood and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like every channel you changed it be Jason Marston. What

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<v Speaker 1>was it? What was the first thing you got? What

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<v Speaker 1>was the first first was a McDonald's commercial? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>all do time doing McDonald's commercials? Does anyone else? We

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<v Speaker 1>all started doing commercials. Mine was for Mick pumpkin happy Meals,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still have them in my kitchen. If I

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<v Speaker 1>pull back this curtain, you'll they'll just be my kitchen. Um. Surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got four pumpkin pails. Yes, four pumpkin pails. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had them for dinner. Do you have that commercial still?

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<v Speaker 1>It's on it's on the tube of you you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it. And I played three characters. I played a

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<v Speaker 1>gold prospector and a bunny and uh and something else,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget a vampire and uh, and I kept the

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<v Speaker 1>pails And now and like that was like the real

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<v Speaker 1>industrial like bad for you plastic is that plastic is

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<v Speaker 1>not degraded at all. Now the ones you leave bad

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<v Speaker 1>for plastics crack, they'll crumble the fetty. So when when

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<v Speaker 1>was was was robot? Was robot chocks, Robot jocks, robot

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<v Speaker 1>jocks rocks and then robot crashing bird? And where did

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<v Speaker 1>you shoot that? Italy Rome? Italy? Yeah, I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say twelve. Never been to Italy before? Is me and

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<v Speaker 1>my mother? And uh and like there's so lame in retrospect,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I love Italian food. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island. I'm surrounded by the mafia. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>every you know Italian Italian food is the thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I could not stand the food in Italy. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was authentic and different. Remember getting pizza and

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<v Speaker 1>so we walked on trying to find a McDonald's. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ashamed of myself for that. But yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Stewart Gordon film Stewart Gordon who did a reanimator and

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<v Speaker 1>actually created uh honey, shrunk the Kids, many many other things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah wow, yeah, yeah you were an actor. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you get the call? Then? The night that that they

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<v Speaker 1>called you in to be Jason Marsden on boy Meats World?

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<v Speaker 1>How did how did how did that come about? Why

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<v Speaker 1>were you called in the night of the show. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was working on the Tom Show, The Tom Arnold Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the it was just it was just

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<v Speaker 1>worked out. It was it was the last episode of

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<v Speaker 1>that season forever. And uh, for some reason, we got

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<v Speaker 1>like we rehearsed, we we did table reads on Friday, rehearsed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then did our audience to night on Thursday. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys did Monday through Friday. We did the same schedule

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning always because Michael Michael was a devout

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<v Speaker 1>you so we couldn't work after sunset on Friday. Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>however it worked, it was it was like I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>work with you guys that we were shooting the same week.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you on Tom did you shoot out everything you

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<v Speaker 1>needed to shoot out on Wednesday and so Thursday you

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<v Speaker 1>were free. I can't remember. All I know was the

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<v Speaker 1>last day of shooting for us. They didn't make any

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<v Speaker 1>special arrangements for me. Um and and I was I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being asked to do boy Meats World and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't uh and and We just left it at that

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<v Speaker 1>and then like I remember the night that we were

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<v Speaker 1>shooting for tom um my agent said, they really want

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<v Speaker 1>you for Boy Meets World. Can you do You think

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<v Speaker 1>you can go in on show night and do it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, I'll come in early. And

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I showed up before y'all did. I. I

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<v Speaker 1>was David Trey was the director. I believe I knew

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<v Speaker 1>all my lines and I did the blocking and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and I nailed it. You did. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that was amazing to me because I had

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<v Speaker 1>worked with this other actor all week long. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say his name was Paige. I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a very nice guy, very nice guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He just played it completely differently. He played it very

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<v Speaker 1>straight man and almost angry. And I remember you coming

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<v Speaker 1>in and us rehearsing, and me the whole time going like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that was a joke. Oh that was a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there was a was like, oh he's it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh this whole thing is funny. And we've talked on

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<v Speaker 1>this show before about how when you work with a

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<v Speaker 1>better actor than you, it makes you better. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of my performances that I look back at early, early,

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<v Speaker 1>early and go like that didn't suck as much as

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<v Speaker 1>my normal episodes. And it's because I was next to

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<v Speaker 1>you and I was like, oh, this is how you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. We didn't we none of us knew how

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<v Speaker 1>to do this yet. So watching you where you were

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<v Speaker 1>like jaded by this point, you were what night seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen and you were like, I've been kid, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for nineteen years ago. Um, so it was yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just remember you my cigarette smoke exactly and

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<v Speaker 1>we had a ton of fun room and uh, because

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<v Speaker 1>we had met years before when you I've told the

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<v Speaker 1>story on the on the podcast before where you made

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<v Speaker 1>fun of me because um, I was so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>meet Perry King from Rip Tide and You're like, rip

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<v Speaker 1>he ripped, rushed off the boat from Connecticut, seen a chair,

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<v Speaker 1>all excited and I'm like to learn my lines, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>stop stop, just drave me with your authenticity, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>all whatever, and you got that. That was that was

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<v Speaker 1>almost home with Leon Norris. Yes, we had Lee and

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<v Speaker 1>that was another Michael j show and Brittany Murphy got

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<v Speaker 1>wrestler and and that was how you and I met

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<v Speaker 1>and Shylo was there too, right, Yeah, it was between

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<v Speaker 1>me and you and Shiloh and uh and and they

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<v Speaker 1>gave the part to me for some reason. Gee, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why. It's because you were clearly the best. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was local. They didn't have to put you up.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to put me up, right, it was local.

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<v Speaker 1>You used to have to give a relocation fee if

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<v Speaker 1>you moved from New York or whatever. That wait, they did, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I told the story about the prick who

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<v Speaker 1>sold my job when I met you that night with

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<v Speaker 1>my with my dad coming down from City Walk, which

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<v Speaker 1>you well everybody should know you are were and are

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<v Speaker 1>still a an amusement park kind of aficionado. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, I mean I like him. I

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<v Speaker 1>like him a whole bunch. Yes, yeah, Universal Disney, Nottsbury Farm,

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<v Speaker 1>every every Halloween. You were you were the man to

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<v Speaker 1>go with. Um. You used to be a member of

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<v Speaker 1>Club thirty three, right, correct? So cool? That was so

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<v Speaker 1>cool when you told me that I've never been either.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so so. Why do you think I was

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<v Speaker 1>so much better than you? At the Boy Meets World audition?

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<v Speaker 1>For why I got the part? And they sent your

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<v Speaker 1>ass pack and I'm just curious. Well, because you're amazing. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so funny. And I say again, because Will is

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<v Speaker 1>so funny and and and I think you did bring

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<v Speaker 1>that authenticity and that awe to to this this character.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't remember what I did. Uh. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>Ben because we all read with Ben it messed up

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<v Speaker 1>his line and and uh and he thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>his fault. Yeah, he felt bad. He felt so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, it was yeah, I could you can

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<v Speaker 1>you know when you go to network you can feel it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know? And I felt it like they clearly they

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<v Speaker 1>liked me. But I think that's someone else in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And it turned out it was it was you. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're I mean, the proof is in the pudding. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you you you you kill it, you kill it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>so funny. Well, it's very sweet are working on on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what I want to know. The giant anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>monster came up and bit me. It is what it

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<v Speaker 1>is in a green screen in your room. And you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to work with anybody else that I do

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<v Speaker 1>that all the time. We just don't film it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so sick of watching this show. You have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea he's doing a very week every part. It's so great. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the other thing that I want to I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking over this interview because i've met Justin before. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>here's one of the things I want to. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you. Um, you came off as an All

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<v Speaker 1>of us thought that you were in way more episodes

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<v Speaker 1>than you actually were. Not me, I thought you were

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<v Speaker 1>only in like three. But that's because that's because I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there for some of your episodes. If you had

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 1>asked me before we started this pot, I would have

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.120
<v Speaker 1>thought that Jason was up until season four or five

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>two and had done like thirty episodes. Well, because I

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 1>was always there. I was visiting. Yeah, there's maybe annoyingly so,

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 1>but I would ever. I think I was doing step

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 1>at the time, and after like I would finish and

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I just go over and and hang out. Now do

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you do one of the things people are asking? And

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:18.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know the answer to this. Do you

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>know why the character just went away? I have no idea.

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I have. I think maybe maybe maybe my agent asked

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>for more money, maybe someone because I remember new producers coming,

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and maybe someone just didn't like me. I remember, Um,

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I was told at one point like I was just

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>too busy, which might have been true, but I remember

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a stretcher. I'm like, no, I'm available, and I talked.

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember talking to Michael Jacobs and he went, you know,

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>he's got his pens like to put you in a

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>number episodes and uh and and he didn't. So what

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 1>it really hurt the most was the final episode where

0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they brought back everybody and did little cameos and except

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>for me, And how do I know because I was

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>there watching, Like, well, I guess, I mean it would

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>have been nice, but it's fine. Right. Was that our

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>graduation from high school episode when we brought back Lee?

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>And that's right? And then we only mentioned Tony. You

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't actually see him, Remember they go, you got the

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 1>That was the joke was we can't go down that hallway.

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>You never come back, hey, Mr Turner, And you never

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>actually saw him. So Lee was the only one who

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>came back. Okay, so you didn't because we never got

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>an explanation either. But by this time you were already

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>on step by step. Right when did you start doing that,

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>like at the same time as boy or yeah, okay,

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:42.439
<v Speaker 1>um um, I remember I booked White Squall when I

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>was doing because I was on sept I told you yes,

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't do Step by Step until after that,

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and Full House was before boy, I I can't remember.

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it was after as well. Okay, I think

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the answer seems to be that maybe you were just

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>too busy. But like the times when they would have

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>been able to have you on, you were already working

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>on something. You were working so consistently and for good

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 1>reason that it just must not have worked out, because

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously it's not show talent, it's show business.

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And uh and then that's what it was. I mean

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I was I was I was available, I was there. Yeah,

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>it was that craft service with us talking. I just

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>remember you coming back from White Squall after having shot

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that film and an amazing film with Jeff Bridges. If

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>anybody hasn't seen White Squall, it's absolutely a wonderful movie.

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I remember you coming back shredded, but you just were

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 1>just ripped. Yes, I've worked out because Ridley Scott directed

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 1>this movie. It is wonderful. Uh about like they called it,

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like Dead Poets Society on a boat. It was to

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>go to school on a sailing ship. And we actually

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>worked in a sailing ship and I was the first mate.

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>And I just remember le Scott asking me. He's like, so,

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you know you he works on the shiep all the time,

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're supposed to look like a like a box,

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, can you make You're gonna work out? I'm like, yes,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll do that. So I had to be work out

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>to be in the shape of a box, is what

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>he was so interesting? Yea, whose idea was it? To

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>keep your name the same for the character? The character

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>was written for me, that's and then a few episodes

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>later I forget which writer came up to me and said,

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, because obviously Mr Feeney, the great Bill Daniels

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that refers to everyone by the last name, and he says,

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>he has to call you by your last name. Do

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you mind if we use your own? I think it

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>would be funny, he said, I think it'd be funny

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>as well. Right, So okay, now I know this is

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a different podcast, and yes, I'm gonna plug my other

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>podcast out here Voices, And we talked about this a

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>little there, but you are a huge voice over actor

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 1>as well. Did that start pre boy you you you

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>started when you were young doing voices as well. Correct, Yes,

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I did. Uh. First cartoon I did was Disney's Adventures

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>of the Gummy Bears Old school Commy Bears Bouncing here

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and there and every Bears. No, did you do Care

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Bears too? Or were you just gummy no Care? Just

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>coming awesome? And then you went from there too. I

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>mean this was years later. Obviously you did a ton

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of stuff in between, but I mean, Max for Goofy movie,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.959
<v Speaker 1>Goofy is got to be one of your most recognizable

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>voice over roles, wouldn't you say? It's up there? Yeah,

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's all Disney. How I guess that's the question

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>is how much Disney did you work for? Were you?

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Because you were literally the voice of Disney for years? Well, yeah,

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I did a tune Disney. Coming up next, It's Boy's World,

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>followed by Jake American Dragon Jake long only on Tune Disney.

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I hated that job so hard, which because

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's horrible, because like anybody on the planet would

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:14.239
<v Speaker 1>love that that that gig, but it was it was

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>so they kept because I'm good at talking fast, they

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>kept adding more and more words to it. I was

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of like on call Um like at the drop

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:25.959
<v Speaker 1>of the had like, no, you can't go on vacation.

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>We need you to come in and do the spot

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>for UM for the Mickey Mouse Club. And I didn't

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like that because it wasn't it wasn't a contract. I

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a Disney employee. It was like a note. I'm like,

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody's not balancing here. And you can only like be

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>faux enthusiastic about something for so long. But it's want

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to bow your brains out, So I got I just

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>got completely burned out by it. Oh my. Next, it's

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>so weird because I want to sit here and talk

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to Jason about more stuff, but I know him so

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>well that it's called Well, it's not that I know

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the answers, it's that it's like I feel like I'm

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>interviewing my best friend because that's what I'm doing. So

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just learned that Will has a glass eye. What

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>is something else we don't know about? Will? Give us

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>give us a secret about Will? Here we go, Oh

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>my gosh. Um see, I guess you can cut out

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>anything that you don't want, right, that's right? Here we go?

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, oh god, I think sexual or weird? Please?

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh that I got nothing. Will uh will oh. There's

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>so many things people will almost almost just like move

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to Amsterdam. It didn't come back one time. We didn't

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>know that. Let our audience doesn't know. Our audience doesn't

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>know it. So tell the story for our audience. Well,

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>will it. We've gone together beforehand. I think you went

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>even again before before I met you. Had you was

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the first time we went with with Shiloh, And no,

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that was the first time. Yeah, you had gone a

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of times. Well I thought you had gone a

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of times by yourself or no, no, no, the

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>first time and the first time I've ever been. Yeah,

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it was such a good trip, and um, then I

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>think we'll went back again. Uh. It was with me

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>between seasons, and I would check in on them every

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>so often. We didn't have pages or nothing. We'd you'd

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>go to the like a pay phone, you call me

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and check in and you were like, I don't know, man,

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>stay here. I'm like, okay, So I got a plane

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>ticket flew out to to talk some sense and to you.

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>He was staying in a in like this guy's house

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>before an existing. I have found this apartment. Yeah, the apartment. Yeah,

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and I've gotten there like stupid early in the morning,

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>like and you had told me, like you know, he

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>sleeps in and trying to disturb everyone until like afternoon

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>or something. And so I waited as long as I could.

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it was cold or something, and I like

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>knocked on the door and this poor older gentleman and

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>like a shirt and his and his white tidyes opened

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the door and is like, oh that must be Hans. Sorry,

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>this like three level house. Go upstairs and Will is

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>staying in a room the size of this chair. Okay,

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.479
<v Speaker 1>and what are you looking there? I can't I'm messing up,

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like the square of this chair, like he's our one

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>corner TVs in on the corner a giant, giant bull

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>of cigarette butts bhill. But he had a he had

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>a I know this is I'm sorry I'm describing things.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not basics. The door was a was a

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>mattress that Will had procured for me so I could

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>sleep in there as well. But to show you to

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>illustrate how long he had been there. You know where

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going with this. I know exactly where you're going

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>with vot Up Up. So every night he would go

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>to he would go to sleep. You'd have some cigarettes

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>whatever on this little tiny television and he'd smoke and

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>he'd watch whatever. And then this would come on from

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Motor Up and it was in Dutch and went on

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 1>there and he's he looks at me, He's like, watch this,

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and he starts reciting the intromercial word for word in Dutch.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, and I'm losing my mind. I'm losing

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>my hilarious and said, but mostly hilarious. He would just

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>been watching this every day Street Blues. It would show

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>two episodes, the Hill Street Blues and then the Motor

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Up commercial and it would always start Motor Up and

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a ment car. And so I would just sit there

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and this, this is a solid block of ice. How

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>is it still working? This row was has frozen solid.

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I still remember the Motor Up commercial. That was a

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>fun trip. And burger king every night, burger king every night. Um.

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>That's when I was writing the Winnie the Pooh movie

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.280
<v Speaker 1>for Disney. I wrote the screenplay for that. But no, Jason,

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>this is how good a friend Jason was. I called

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>him and I said I'm not coming home. Can you

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>tell them at Boyny's World that I'm not coming back?

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Are you serious? Check? This is this is ninety nine,

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>summer of ninety six. Can you just tell them I'm

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>just gonna stay here and smoke weed and cigarettes and

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>eat Burger King and write scripts. And Jason's like uh huh.

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 1>And something like thirty hours later, there's a knock at

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>my door and he's like, okay, Well what I did

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>when we don't know Will is I did? I called

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Michael and I was like, hey, look, Will wants to

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>stay in Amsterdam. But listen, I know it's a horrible loss,

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>but I could fill in if you want. I'm available anyway.

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>He hung up, and I was like, I guess I

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>better go, don't But he didn't know. Do you remember

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>what you said to me? Because you you you came

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>in and you're like, here's what's going to happen. We're

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna stay here, we're gonna hang out for a week

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and have some fun. And then you're getting on the

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>plane and you're flying home. And he dragged me back

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>from Amsterdam. Yeah, oh man, And I'd still be living there.

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I was just there not long ago, and that is

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>now a hotel, that same and that apartment you found writer,

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the same phone that you would go out to

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>every night. Um was the same one I called Jason from. Yeah,

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>so that's near It was next to it a hostel,

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to say it was, and and right across

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the street from the Reichs Museum. It was great a spot,

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>no wonder you want to stay. You and I have

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>done Amsterdam, Paris, London, London? Where else have We've been?

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Kind of all around the world together, Disney World a

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of times. Disney World a cool way with the

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>old school like Disney Way where you'd get to back

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>door the rides and do all that kind of stuff.

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>That was really cool. Um do you remember is is

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the what's the one where all the clubs where everybody dances?

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that still at Disney World? Paradise Island, Leasure Island

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>sadly gone? Oh man? We had some Now we are

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>recording this during spooky season and there is a fresh

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>revival of hocus Pocus. It is now bigger than it

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>has ever been. Did you would you have ever expected that?

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>What was filming that like? Um? Well, you know, I

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you watched the movie, but I that

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't me in the beginning. That was the fabulous and

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>talented Seawan Murray. So I I didn't actually do any filming.

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I came in after the fact and I and I

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>looped um the cat that he turns into, and then

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>for continuity, I got I looped Sean as well. So

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>it was it was about three days of work for me.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean I came in like motally done. But yeah,

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean I just did. I've been doing these convention

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>appearances with Amory Cats and Vanessa Shaw and we just

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 1>have a blast. I haven't seen Omary in thirty years.

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>We did a show called Erie Indiana together and uh

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.240
<v Speaker 1>and Vanessa I knew because we both knew Jonathan Brandis

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.919
<v Speaker 1>really got about Erie Indiana. I love that people. People

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>are digging it. People are digging it so hard. I

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>never I mean like like you guys, I mean, you

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>work on a show. I mean you had a good

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>long run. But there's a lots of shows that had

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>good long runs that aren't as celebrated as hard as

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Boy Meets World. So that feeling that you guys have

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>right now is I mean, it's it's very similar for

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>a goofy movie and hocus focus. It's you don't expect it,

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's one of those wonderful things that that

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 1>we are gifted as in this unforgiving business that you know,

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>speaking of, which, what are you doing now? Because I

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>know that you've got the Mars Variety Show, which is

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome, and you are your life has become a

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 1>lot about music lately. Yeah, I thank you for mentioning that.

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I have a show on YouTube called The Mars Variety Show,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>which celebrates independent musicians and stand up comedians here in Nashville.

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>It's inspired by like the Dean Martin Show. I was

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 1>watching a lot of those old variety shows, Dean Martin Show, laughing,

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Bert Sugarman's Midnight Special, and uh and I'm like, well, see,

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I could be like a Dean Martin. I like to

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>be a host. I have uh you know, I'll feed

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:15.959
<v Speaker 1>my ego. I can do that and then I can

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.760
<v Speaker 1>share with the rest of the planet. These these artists

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>who who will perform for like six people on a

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night melt you know, pour their guts out, and

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you need to be seen by a bigger audience.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's what the show is designed for. We have

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>three seasons. I have a Halloween special and I'm very

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>proud of. Uh. It's silly and stupid and it's it's

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes and it's fantastic, called The mars scare Riety Show.

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm still working on that. I might I'm definitely

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna do more seasons, probably next year, but still acting,

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 1>doing um uh cartoons and video games and even get

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>my on camera career off the ground. Did a couple

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>of things uh here and there, and I have a

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 1>movie that uh, very exciting thing that I'm not allowed

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, but I've been. It is musical based

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>and I have to learn, uh to you know, to

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>learn some songs and sing and play guitar and all

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And I'm very excited for that. Well are

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you on social media? Where can people follow you so

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that when you're ready to talk about that very exciting

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>thing people can hear about it. Daniel Fisher will thank

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you for asking. You can find Jason Marsden add Jason

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Marsden on Instagram official, Jason Marsden on TikTok, or Jason

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>morriston official. I can't remember and I'm on the Twitter

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>as well, but I most of my focus is the

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>instant family. But TikTok is the thing. Yeah, tell me

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>about your TikTok. I want to know what are something?

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you have like a real popular TikTok? They like,

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>what's your most popular TikTok? Yes, so I hear this

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>is a weird thing, but I love it. So I

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>did this cartoon, the the sequel to The Lion King,

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and my character, his name is Kovu, and he is

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the chosen heir of the throne from scar because you

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>have to say chosen because you can't say incests on Disney.

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>That basically, you know, if you follow the like mating

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>habits of lions, that's pretty much what it was. Anyway,

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>shows an air and and he's the smoldering, like dark,

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>darker version of Simba. We call him hot topic Simba

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>at around the house should have gay j earrings and whatnot.

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And uh and I get so much fan mail uh

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>for for that and and and mostly fine young gals

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>who come up and saying that, oh man, that that

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that character, that voice. You know, curious steerings happened in

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>my youth. So I a TikTok showcasing that and it's

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>hit over a million, like in the twenty four hours

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>was oh my god. But then I post stuff about

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like watch the Mars Variety show. Nobody cares, you know,

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Goofy movie millions millions? Don't you care about what I want?

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>My artistic integrity? Don you make fun of Will in

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>the Goofy movie voice? Oh man in it? You know what?

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>You know what Goofy and Will have and come? You

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>know what? Max? I can't have a com and they're

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:14.399
<v Speaker 1>both goofy? Will you like power Line? Hey? Will? Maybe

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you want Stoppable should hang out well together. I'll gust

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:23.919
<v Speaker 1>see power Line with you and Ron stoppabo that Uh yeah?

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Am I? Or is he me? Oh? This is gonna

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>be interesting fantastic? Maybe you hook me up with that

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that Kim, she's pretty nice. I already already lied to Roxanne,

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>so so tacking up with Kim and has have have

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>have Ron Stoppable and Max ever actually met before? I

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>think this is an interesting Disney crossover. Yeah you remember

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>that one like after party at Club thirty three. That's right?

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he was there? Oh yeah that was I

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>was about to be there that night. I don't don't

0:41:55.360 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>start with me. Don't even start with me. H and

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Disney has just suit us somehow. World is now over all,

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 1>right Jason. Before we finish, I do have is now

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 1>doing the voice of Max good exactly what he's doing

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the voice of everybody. UM, just a quick question for you,

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.399
<v Speaker 1>because we've touched on this in other episodes. Looking back

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>at your life because you are a true child actor.

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>We're a child actor that has grown up into an

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 1>adult actor. Do you look back at your career as

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 1>a child actor or something positive? Or do you look

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>back at your career as a child actor as something

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>not so great? Uh? Nothing but positivity. I mean, like

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's always ups and downs. You're you're a

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>kid in a very adult industry, you know. And uh,

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>but I can't trade any experience that I ever had

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>because I worked on so many uh intellectual properties that

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I loved, you know. Um, I've had amazing experiences getting

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:01.919
<v Speaker 1>travel all of the world. UM, established friendships with fine

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.240
<v Speaker 1>folks like you guys. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:09.479
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I love hearing that. And finally, what's your

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>favorite project that you've ever worked on? Uh? It's like

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>picking your favorite child. It can't pick just one man.

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>It's like, uh, you know, each show, each project you're

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>working on, means something different based on the people you

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>work with, based on the experience. It's hard to pick

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 1>picktures one. I'm glad to hear that. What's your least

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 1>favorite project? And why did you hate the actors you

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>were working with? No, I'm kidding, you don't have to

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 1>answer that one. To look at his face, UM, I

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>did an episode of Will and Grayson. It was not

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 1>my favorite experience at all. I hear Will is nice

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and Grace is nice. But and as a dick, you

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>know you were you guys are I don't know if

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys ever worked on any other sitcoms after? What

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>means really? But you had such a family, um dynamic

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and the same thing on step by step and you're

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.479
<v Speaker 1>allowed to try things. And then um, there were certain

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>shows I worked on afterwards where there was a shift

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.839
<v Speaker 1>and people were not as welcoming and it's like you say,

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>what's on the page or you're out of here, like

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you won't try anything. And I think it was caught

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>off guard by that. And I'm I don't know if

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you could tell but I'm a little arrogant sometimes and

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely love it. And uh, and that's and I'll

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>just say I was supposed to do two episodes. I

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>ended up doing just one. It was there's there's being

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>with Jason, especially when you're out. First of all, you

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>know that he's gonna be fearless no matter what's in

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 1>front of him, and you're always wondering, like am I

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>going to get into a fight? Like what's gonna happen

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>right now? So one of my favorites and jump into

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a pool and that story? Can I tell this story, Jason? Please?

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>So I had done a film called I think it

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>was called Lady Killers at the time it became gold Diggers.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>It was there was a way it was not good.

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So we were at the Vegas Film Festival for Sina

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Vegas and we were at a big party there the

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>night before the festival started, and it was all this

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>press and there's hundreds of people around a pool, and

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>of course I turned to Jason at one point and

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I bet you you won't strip completely

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 1>butt naked and jump into the pool in front of everybody.

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, no, I'm not gonna do that. And

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I go, I, you know, I'll give you four hundred bucks,

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>and I turn away as like a joke, and by

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the time I turned back, he essentially has his pants off,

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, dude, I'm kidding, don't we We're fine,

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about And he's looking at me the whole time,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>going like wait, what's what's the problem, and butt naked

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>packed house jumps in the water. Everybody then is staring

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 1>like looking at him. He gets out, we're laughing and

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and security comes over grab us. We're then in the

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>He's like I'm going to have him arrested. Him like whoa, no, no, no,

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 1>we're good. We're good. We're friends with the owner of

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the hotel, which we weren't. But I was like, I'm

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>here as a guest guest of the hotel owner, you

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>know what was his name again, and I'm a very

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:19.760
<v Speaker 1>famous actor movie this guy. This guy's like you gotta

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>go look at him. Just go into the hotel room

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and keep him there. And then the thing that amazed

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>me is you wouldn't even take the cash. I tried

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to give you the four hundred bucks, and you're like,

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>now you already had the experience. I'll get I'll get

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>naked for free, just ask so funny. And then I

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>remember the director of the film coming up to me

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:43.439
<v Speaker 1>and going, I can't believe you did that. I can't

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>believe you did that. I'm like, what, we were just

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>having funny goes. No, had I known you were going

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to do that, we would have written the name of

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the film on his ass. Oh my god, nothing. Greg

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 1>took it someone when you all took it. I was

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>me getting of getting out of the pool surrounded by security.

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Were you there too? No? No, I just heard about it. Oh.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>To Will's credit, like, yeah, they were. The security was

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:15.280
<v Speaker 1>pissed because you know, penises are deadly uh minus anyway,

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>But but the security was escorting me out and and

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>very upset, and Will was like, I got you, ja don't.

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>He's following me behind, Like I don't. I'm with you

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the whole way. And then do you remember the big

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 1>head of security came up and he was cracking up.

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>He's like, man, what are you doing? What are you thinking?

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>What are you thinking? And they were gonna kick me

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>out of the hotel, but because we were staying at

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the hotel, they couldn't, so I'm like, I'll just go

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to my room. I won't come back down. Oh, it

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:44.359
<v Speaker 1>was so much. We've had a number of those, just

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>random incidents where again you're fearless. God. I love it.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I love you. I love you guys. I know you

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta go. Thank you so much for for being here

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>with us. Thank you for asking me. Are we going

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to see you next year around at the convention circuit? Yes, yes,

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 1>you are great. I'm also I can finally announce here

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.799
<v Speaker 1>on Pod Meets World, which is awesome, that I will

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:11.280
<v Speaker 1>be joining Jason at Nashville Comic Con on what's June

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.240
<v Speaker 1>three and fourth, I believe fourth and fifth, Saturday Sunday,

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>June fourth and fifth. I get to hang out with

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 1>my my boy Jason in Nashville. And I've been a

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>horrible friend and have not actually visited him Nashville in

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the years. He's lived there ten years, and the only

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>way to get him to come to a con is

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to pay for his flight in a hotel, and I

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>would have done that ages ago. But come to Nashville

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>to see the two of us together, because he's going

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to show me the town. And you've got to be

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the first time I check it out so you can

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 1>come on a pub crawl with us, as Jason shows

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>me everything around there, So that is yes, I don't

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 1>him to get naked. Yes. June fourth and fifth, Jason,

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I bet you have a really good answer to this question,

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 1>so I want to ask it are what are some

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 1>of the roles that you auditioned for that you came

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>really close to getting but didn't get good? Well? Uh,

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Eric and boy meets World, Right, I read really close.

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I read for Stallone's son and Rocky five, and he

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>cast his own son, so it's not like he lost

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 1>out to another actor. Yeah, but I went to the

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.879
<v Speaker 1>director's house like seven times. It was John Abltson, who

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>did a karate kid in the first Rocky and um gosh,

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 1>hell he's another one. I actually, I don't know how

0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 1>close I got, but I did read for Batman beyond you.

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're not even the Batman fan on the bed,

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 1>And when he booked it, he didn't even want to

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>tell me because he's like, he felt so bad, he

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 1>felt so bad, but he killed But he killed it.

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine I would have done any better. No,

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you certainly wouldn't have. Not with that role. I was

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I was meant to I was I was I was

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.399
<v Speaker 1>meant to wear the cow my friend, I think all

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>three of us being up for Trojan War and being

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 1>at a party, and it was we were all like

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it was down to like the three of us and

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like maybe five other people or whatever, and we're like,

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what, one of us is gonna get it.

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Guys were like gotten a hoddle and we're like one

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 1>of and both of you guys ended up nothing that

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>was at the boy Mean's World rat party. Was that

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 1>what it was? I just remember realizing that we had

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:11.879
<v Speaker 1>all read for this movie, we all wanted it because

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the script was so good, and I thank thankfully I

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I ruined that so we had no problems. I don't

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>know why again, and I'm not just saying this, but like,

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you don't start more stuff, like

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you clearly carry a picture and you're so wonderful and

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>it's very sat thank you, but get whatever you're going on.

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Get over it. It's it's that easy, right, Just get

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>over Just get over it. Well that's the other thing.

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing. If you actually look at IMDb,

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Jason and I have played best friends or played friends

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in like fifty different things. So it's just almost every cartoon,

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 1>every uh film, everything, it's they cast the two of

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>us together just because the chemistry is there obviously, So

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I AMDB. Will also tell you that he's doing Sonic

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the Hedgehog three. So everything you see, I leave everything

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you see. I'm telling you you were Chris Pratt and

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Guardians of the Galaxy if memory serves awesome. Well, thank you,

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being here. I can't wait

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.839
<v Speaker 1>to see you again next year. And you guys can

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 1>go see Will and Jason at the Nashville Comic Con

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>June four and get your tickets the minute they become available.

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You're available National comicon dot com right now. There you go.

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Come check us out because I'm going to need people

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.319
<v Speaker 1>to uh so I have a bigger line than Jason

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>or else I feel bad about. Oh, you're definitely going

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to want that. Yeah, what we meet Tonky talks, That's

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen. I'm happy with that. I just want

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to go. I can't wait. It's gonna be a ton

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 1>of fun. Thank you for being here, Jason. It was

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>great to do Always by Danielle by Phil see you justin,

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, is so perfect perfectly Jason. It is

0:51:57.360 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that the red like director's chair, spot of red curtain sitting.

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.800
<v Speaker 1>He's slightly slightly off center. I just wanted to be

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:07.400
<v Speaker 1>wearing a turtleneck. That's all he needed, right, would have

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:09.840
<v Speaker 1>been a nice touch. He's the first guy to admit

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that a lot that he thinks it's his fault. But

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>to me, every time I'm with him and every time

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I used to watch him work, that's a guy who

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 1>should have been a superstar in my opinion. That's a

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>guy who should have had his own sitcom, his own show.

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Um he and and he's the first one to be like, oh,

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I I shoot myself in the foot all the time.

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>But he's so talented and so funny. Uh that It's

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>just I was always I was always in aw of

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>them every time. But doing like a variety show like

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>he is is exactly perfect, you know what I mean?

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Because he like he's he It probably hurt his career

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that he was so Hollywood in the sense that he

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 1>like lives in breeze show business. He's like him, you know,

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>he just wants to be the center of attention. He

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>was and think in a weird way that could have

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 1>worked against him as an actor. You know, like even

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>said it with you when you were up for Eric,

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you came across as more sort of awe shucks, authentic,

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, and like he you probably lost that vibe

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty early because he's so good and he's so he's

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 1>such a pro. So really like he's an old school,

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>polished performer, and like there's less and less need for

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that these days, do you know what I mean? Like, so,

0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I definitely think like doing a variety show, doing a

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 1>hosting gig like that is totally his jam. Yeah, he's no,

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 1>he's an entertainer. He's a pure bread entertainer. Where it's

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:23.120
<v Speaker 1>just he can sing and he can dance, and and

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the thing is when he can't do one of those things,

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 1>he just still throws himself into it. Where I mean,

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't see that a lot anymore. There's no kind

0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of uh, you know, kind of wall flower about it.

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't know, it's like no, I don't know

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>how to do that, but I'm just gonna go do

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it anyway. Um, he was fearless with that stuff. So yeah,

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 1>it was certainly a good role model to look up to.

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Which was which is great, but oh god, it's I

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 1>love your dynamic together. I absolutely love watching you two together.

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I could just like sit back and need some popcorn

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's so funny. Well, my parents call him number four.

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's he's because he's also one of those

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 1>people where he'll he'll smack you down when you need to,

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.120
<v Speaker 1>which is exactly what you need to keep level did

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in this business. You need somebody to go like, come on,

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me with what you just said? And

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:05.879
<v Speaker 1>he was always that guy for me, which was which

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>was so great. So yeah, he kept me grounded and

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 1>became a just such a brother when I really needed

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 1>one at the beginning. You know, writer, you and I

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.839
<v Speaker 1>were always close, but our age differences were so much

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>uh different, started really when we became close, all of

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 1>us really did. And it was one of those things

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:24.439
<v Speaker 1>where Jason Man at a time in my life where

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I needed a brother, he was there and it was

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>just awesome, um, because my brothers were always there for me,

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 1>but they were there for me at different parts of

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the country. Yeah, so I had j right from the

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>time I moved out to l A And thank god,

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:37.279
<v Speaker 1>because I would have had a much different life if

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't, it's wonderful. Well, thank you guys for joining

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