Speaker 1: Uh, can we talk about the shocking revelation when we
Speaker 1: got together that Danielle Fishel is interested in camping. I
Speaker 1: was telling me about this. This is not something I
Speaker 1: ever would have expected from you, and I am so happy. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: so many things have happened since I've becoming old, and
Speaker 1: one of them is that, uh, well, for one thing,
Speaker 1: I no longer like to be in the sun, like
Speaker 1: the sun. First of all, I've always hated the sun.
Speaker 1: I did not always take the sun. I was a
Speaker 1: tropical child. We we went to Hawaii every summer as
Speaker 1: a family. When I was a kid, the beach to
Speaker 1: me was always a very calming place and I used
Speaker 1: to love to just lay there with a book and
Speaker 1: lay out in the sun. And then so and I
Speaker 1: know people don't it's it's either you or it's not you.
Speaker 1: It was Sony Will. You're a tropical person, right, no?
Speaker 1: Oh no. Also, when you struggle with your weight most
Speaker 1: of your life, the beach is not a safe, happy place.
Speaker 1: It's a place where everybody is comfortable to take off
Speaker 1: their shirt and your people are going, why are you
Speaker 1: wearing long sleeves? Yeah? Nor flashbacks? S Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I was I can't say I was ever really comfortable
Speaker 1: in a bathing suit, but I did really like the beach,
Speaker 1: which doesn't make much sense, but so I did. I
Speaker 1: just always love that. And so to me, any time
Speaker 1: I would think of a vacation or wanting to get away,
Speaker 1: or needing to disconnect or you know, feeling burnt out
Speaker 1: needs some time, I would think tropical location. And then
Speaker 1: as I've gotten older and I've wanted to stay away
Speaker 1: from the sun, skin cancer runs in my family. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just not something I'm interested in doing.
Speaker 1: I have become obsessed with the idea of connecting with
Speaker 1: nature and like feeling grounded to Mother Earth and seeing
Speaker 1: stars and trees and going on hikes and like I
Speaker 1: want to buy hiking boots and I want to buy
Speaker 1: a tent, and I want to figure out, like how
Speaker 1: do you do that? And you know, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of I'm so excited about it. I
Speaker 1: really want to do it. I'm a little nervous because,
Speaker 1: as you know, I'm also very controlling about like my
Speaker 1: kids schedule, and so my kids are very used to
Speaker 1: sleeping in their own bed with perfectly dark and white noise,
Speaker 1: and I think, so what you just sleep next to
Speaker 1: your child and there's like natural light about in the world,
Speaker 1: and where do you put the sound machine on? Does
Speaker 1: the sound machine borrow that, you know, bother the people
Speaker 1: sleeping next to you in their tents. So I'm a
Speaker 1: little nervous about how it all works, but I also
Speaker 1: think maybe it's good for me to just kind of
Speaker 1: let it all go. And you do realize that the
Speaker 1: white noise that you're simulating in the room is action
Speaker 1: in the world by nature when you're outside. I don't
Speaker 1: think it is out the world it is. It's just
Speaker 1: just you're not You don't have to block out other sounds, right, Like,
Speaker 1: we don't realize how much extra noise there is just
Speaker 1: by living in a city or even a town. You know,
Speaker 1: Like when I watched my parents property, it is insane.
Speaker 1: It's always like shocking how quiet it is. Remember my
Speaker 1: parents used to come visit me and be like so
Speaker 1: many helicopters. I'm like, really, because I won't even notice
Speaker 1: it anymore, you know, sirens going off all the time.
Speaker 1: My parents used to just freak out. I remember finally
Speaker 1: realizing like, right, no, I'm just like blocking it out
Speaker 1: constantly by living in a city. But what I would say, Daniel,
Speaker 1: is that like that that that attitude about like being
Speaker 1: prepared and like obsessing over like do we have the
Speaker 1: right gear, And that's actually really good for camping because
Speaker 1: that you know, camping is all about that. So you
Speaker 1: actually have to put your energy into how how being
Speaker 1: prepared and so it's it's it's it's it's a relaxing
Speaker 1: activity in that you have to focus on a lot
Speaker 1: of different things to be prepared. Does that make sense,
Speaker 1: So like you actually get to put all this energy
Speaker 1: towards something and then when you realize like, oh, we
Speaker 1: have our tents set up, we have our betting, we
Speaker 1: have all our stuff, then we're just now we're just
Speaker 1: in wilderness and there's nothing else to worry about. And
Speaker 1: you reached this place of like absolute calm, especially when
Speaker 1: you like go backpacking, because there's nothing else to do
Speaker 1: and you've hiked everything in that you need and you
Speaker 1: have to be prepared. You have to know like how
Speaker 1: much of this is gonna weigh? How much food do
Speaker 1: we have for how many days? But it ends up
Speaker 1: being like extremely calming when you realize like, oh, there's
Speaker 1: nothing to worry about there's nothing else to do except
Speaker 1: sit here or enjoy this lake or whatever. And what's
Speaker 1: incredible as kids response so positively, Like we took a
Speaker 1: group of kids camping like a year two ago, and
Speaker 1: a lot of them had never been camping before, and
Speaker 1: everybody was super stressed out and we got onto the
Speaker 1: wilderness and I remember my son and one of his
Speaker 1: friends and they were like, we're bored like five minutes
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna kill somebody,
Speaker 1: and they're like, we're so bored. Five minutes after that,
Speaker 1: they were enthralled with rocks and sticks and it was
Speaker 1: just like rocks and sticks for the rest of the weekend,
Speaker 1: and that's all they cared about. And you just realized, like,
Speaker 1: right at a certain point, your brain kicks, and kids
Speaker 1: brains especially kick to this different gear where it's like,
Speaker 1: let's make up our own game here with this stick
Speaker 1: and this rock, and it just is thoroughly entertaining. And originally, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I grew up camping, So I grew up. Every weekend,
Speaker 1: my friends and I would go camping, and we we
Speaker 1: did it really cool because we all had dirt bikes,
Speaker 1: we all had motorcycles and so we would we would
Speaker 1: wrap up tents and food and put them strapped into
Speaker 1: the backs of our bikes and ride into the woods.
Speaker 1: And we we built a dirt track in the middle
Speaker 1: of the woods, so we'd be doing jumps and all
Speaker 1: this stuff all day, right in the track all day.
Speaker 1: And then you'd set up the tent and we'd hang
Speaker 1: out that night, and you know, you'd strap it back
Speaker 1: to your motorcycle and you'd drive home. It was that
Speaker 1: seems really dangerous with a glass eye. Okay, it's not
Speaker 1: a class. I were one class on techn Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: a glass I discussed about I want the want the pirate. No,
Speaker 1: it's uh. And then the older I got, the less
Speaker 1: I wanted to be outside. And then now I've done
Speaker 1: something which I never thought I would do, which is
Speaker 1: I kind of want to be in the city, which
Speaker 1: I'm not a city person at all, and it's it's
Speaker 1: every time soon and I go to London, we look
Speaker 1: around and go, Okay, I could live here easily. On extremes, man,
Speaker 1: I want a hyper urban environment or complete isolated wilderness.
Speaker 1: What I can't stand is the in between, which hybrid America,
Speaker 1: anything that's in between, just what drives me crazy, Like
Speaker 1: when I'm driving into town and there's strip balls and
Speaker 1: like why like density, make it densify, densify this like
Speaker 1: buildings that go up and you know, but the idea
Speaker 1: of like sprawl, like stretching out taking up space with
Speaker 1: buildings like Los Angeles of Los Angeles, well, you know
Speaker 1: the real problem with Los Angeles. I have come to
Speaker 1: love l A. I you know, we've talked a little
Speaker 1: bit probably on the show about how much I used
Speaker 1: to hate it growing up and being on the show,
Speaker 1: and it was always like being anti l A. I'm
Speaker 1: from northern California. That used to be like it's just
Speaker 1: the way you were raised. Um, And I think that
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Like I love l A for its culture.
Speaker 1: I love LA for its diversity and like just the
Speaker 1: sheer amount of people and things to do like all
Speaker 1: of that. The problem is the sprawl. It's so spread
Speaker 1: out and the lack of trees. Um. I realized that,
Speaker 1: like I need trees in southern California just doesn't have trees.
Speaker 1: It's such a neighborhood. It's a ton of trees. Danielle.
Speaker 1: And then maybe you're one of the few man like
Speaker 1: even when you go on a hike in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: it's like it's um like brush, you know, it's it's low,
Speaker 1: it's not trees, it's not like big tall oaks or
Speaker 1: you know, and and it's just a bummer. Like we've
Speaker 1: just deforceded. And I mean l A wasn't really a
Speaker 1: forested area to begin with as far as I understand,
Speaker 1: but like we've deforested so much of southern California. It's
Speaker 1: it's really hard for me. Like so when I thought,
Speaker 1: like when we talk about getting out in nature, you
Speaker 1: kind of have to drive like two hours outside of
Speaker 1: l A, like you know, other level of nature, Like
Speaker 1: what your look because Danielle, our neighborhood, right at the
Speaker 1: end of my street not just trees, but right at
Speaker 1: the end of my street it goes into just dirt tracks.
Speaker 1: Like there's there's great hiking all up around us up
Speaker 1: and it's desert if you like, which a lot of
Speaker 1: l A people I know love the desert. So they
Speaker 1: escaped like Joshua Tree and it's just that's like their
Speaker 1: happy place, you know, friends live in Palm Spring because
Speaker 1: it's so powerful for them. For me, that's like like
Speaker 1: that's fine. I like it at night, like stars obviously,
Speaker 1: but I need trees, I need mountains, I need streams
Speaker 1: like Harry and Mountain. I find it disturbing. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just too it's too dry. It's there's no trees, there's
Speaker 1: not enough there. Should we do want a pod meets
Speaker 1: World camping excursion? Yes, absolutely we should. I think we did.
Speaker 1: I like that idea. I want to go because I
Speaker 1: want to camp again. I just said that to write.
Speaker 1: He was telling me about a trip he tipped by himself,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to I want in
Speaker 1: on one of those. Well, first of all, just plan
Speaker 1: on coming up for the July at my parents house.
Speaker 1: We do like big camp out every year my parents property,
Speaker 1: and all these families come and kids have so much
Speaker 1: fun and we just hang out for three or four
Speaker 1: days and everybody it's it's basically a music festival without
Speaker 1: any music, but it's become like it's such a wonderful bonding,
Speaker 1: you know, community experience. Adler will come as a beat
Speaker 1: bud great two three. Oh that was like a great band.
Speaker 1: By the way, are we going on the road with
Speaker 1: this band that we started? Yeah, you guys were really great.
Speaker 1: Writer on the drums. Adler wouldn't sing for you, but
Speaker 1: he's really great as a singer. And then Will jumped
Speaker 1: in on guitar. It was Yeah, we had wheels on
Speaker 1: the bus. Was like, it might have been one of
Speaker 1: the best versions I think since the Beatles did it
Speaker 1: in what sixt four. We made up spooky wheels on
Speaker 1: the bus this morning we did like a spooky version
Speaker 1: see Halloween Themes where there were ghosts and were wolves
Speaker 1: on the bus and they all said different things. So anyway,
Speaker 1: welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm Rider Strong,
Speaker 1: and I'm Wilfredell. Our guest today is somebody you guys
Speaker 1: have been asking for for a really long time. Uh.
Speaker 1: We should have had him on when we did Model Family.
Speaker 1: That was such a special episode for for Will. But
Speaker 1: it was also Jason Marsden's very first episode. It's just
Speaker 1: justin Justin Marsdale. Sorry calling him Jason Marston all these years.
Speaker 1: Character name is Jason Marsden. Oh I think Jason Marson
Speaker 1: was playing Jason Marsden. That's what it was. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: so Jason Marsden played Jason Marsden on Boy Meats World
Speaker 1: for nine episodes. His first appearance, as I mentioned, was
Speaker 1: in Model Family, which was season one episode fifteen, and
Speaker 1: his last appearance was season two episode twenty three, the
Speaker 1: episode called home Wow. Nine episodes just between season one
Speaker 1: and season two, and then I can't wait to talk
Speaker 1: to him. Let's welcome everybody justin Marsdale. Hell my god,
Speaker 1: Oh stop it. Look at you? How are you? Let's
Speaker 1: make him feel real special? Okay, great, all your faces.
Speaker 1: You look like you're like inside. The actor's gonna say,
Speaker 1: he's got like a studio and he's gotta it's it's
Speaker 1: like I'm back stating the Muppet Show. It's unbelievable. It
Speaker 1: looks great. It really does. It actually goes along very
Speaker 1: well with my first question for you, which is we
Speaker 1: all feel like you were maybe born a forty year
Speaker 1: old who was just ready for television. Is that true?
Speaker 1: Why are we just going into it? Oh yes, we've
Speaker 1: already been interviewing you for twenty minutes. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: So I was born forty years old? Is that what
Speaker 1: you said? You were a seasoned actor is what we're
Speaker 1: trying to say. Yeah, you were just like like in
Speaker 1: your first appearance on Boy Meats World, and model family.
Speaker 1: It was such a stark contrast for you compared to
Speaker 1: the rest of us. I will speak for all of
Speaker 1: us when I say that us, because we were flailing.
Speaker 1: We were totally fumbling our way through it until we
Speaker 1: finally felt felt comfortable in our skin. And then you appeared,
Speaker 1: and you were like quippy and catchy and comfortable in
Speaker 1: your skin and took ownership of the stage and knew
Speaker 1: everything you were doing and found laughs in places that
Speaker 1: weren't even written to be laughs. Were you just always
Speaker 1: that way? Were you born to do this? You're too kind?
Speaker 1: I was so nervous. I mean, if you remember they
Speaker 1: brought me in like on show night. That made it
Speaker 1: even more amazing, though, is that you did that on
Speaker 1: the day And I was I was nervous and excited
Speaker 1: because I you know, I had already had a friendship
Speaker 1: with with Fredell already, and so get to work with
Speaker 1: you was was a kick. And then and I want
Speaker 1: to like, you know, Fredell. I mean, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: you were lucky to be there. The real stars, you know,
Speaker 1: Ben and Writer and Danielle. I had to try to
Speaker 1: impress them, and you guys were kids, your kids for
Speaker 1: kind of wasn't even in the episode, Thank you, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't even there. I remember trying to impress. I
Speaker 1: was talking with like writer and Ben and you guys
Speaker 1: are just laughing at every stupid thing I said. I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, because you impressed the hell out
Speaker 1: of us. Of course you were. I looked up for
Speaker 1: you so much because you were such a pro, Like
Speaker 1: you were so comfortable, you knew exactly what you were doing,
Speaker 1: you were so funny, and I just remember being like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's what being an actor's act. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was like for me, it was still just showing up
Speaker 1: and like, you know, figuring it out as we went,
Speaker 1: and like getting notes and being I just had no
Speaker 1: idea what I was doing. And I remember I feel
Speaker 1: like I had already met you before then, right, I
Speaker 1: must have met you, like around town or something, or
Speaker 1: maybe you just your reputation proceeded you by the time
Speaker 1: you showed up on set. I remember just being in
Speaker 1: awe of you and being takes and you would go
Speaker 1: run around. No you know what it was. I always
Speaker 1: equate sitcom, especially to music. It's a very specific song
Speaker 1: and we hadn't learned the beat yet and you are.
Speaker 1: You came in and were like, oh, I've been singing
Speaker 1: this song for fifteen years. So it was that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Let's go, let's take it back even farther though.
Speaker 1: How did you start in the entertainment industry? And why
Speaker 1: were you ten years old? Because I know you were
Speaker 1: ten years old when as the age that all of
Speaker 1: us started. How old were you when you started? I
Speaker 1: was I was eleven? Okay, what was? How did what
Speaker 1: got you into the industry? My parents, you know, we
Speaker 1: moved to California and uh, someone had suggested to my
Speaker 1: mother that, oh, you know, your son's cute, get him,
Speaker 1: get him into acting. And my mom went to ching.
Speaker 1: What a great idea. But they found a workshop and
Speaker 1: Irvine that I believe still functioning to this day. There.
Speaker 1: I think they've shifted to more online stuff called del
Speaker 1: Mar Media Arts and Hello Bud and Bunny Barth and
Speaker 1: the Barth family. Uh, they saw something in me. They
Speaker 1: trained me for twelve weeks. It was all ages. It
Speaker 1: was like Thursday nights, seven thirty to ten thirty and uh,
Speaker 1: kids adults, and we did they did everything. They'd tell
Speaker 1: you how to slate for for commercials. They tell you
Speaker 1: how to read copy for film. They did voiceover stuff. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they send me to an agent. The agent signed me
Speaker 1: that day and then like then immediately started send me
Speaker 1: out on movies, TV commercials, voiceovers, Uh and uh, And
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate. What was your first worked? All
Speaker 1: the time, I remember working constant, Like I remember like
Speaker 1: turning on the TV at the Oakwood and it was
Speaker 1: like every channel you changed it be Jason Marston. What
Speaker 1: was it? What was the first thing you got? What
Speaker 1: was the first first was a McDonald's commercial? Did you
Speaker 1: all do time doing McDonald's commercials? Does anyone else? We
Speaker 1: all started doing commercials. Mine was for Mick pumpkin happy Meals,
Speaker 1: and I still have them in my kitchen. If I
Speaker 1: pull back this curtain, you'll they'll just be my kitchen. Um. Surprise,
Speaker 1: we've got four pumpkin pails. Yes, four pumpkin pails. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had them for dinner. Do you have that commercial still?
Speaker 1: It's on it's on the tube of you you can
Speaker 1: see it. And I played three characters. I played a
Speaker 1: gold prospector and a bunny and uh and something else,
Speaker 1: I forget a vampire and uh, and I kept the
Speaker 1: pails And now and like that was like the real
Speaker 1: industrial like bad for you plastic is that plastic is
Speaker 1: not degraded at all. Now the ones you leave bad
Speaker 1: for plastics crack, they'll crumble the fetty. So when when
Speaker 1: was was was robot? Was robot chocks, Robot jocks, robot
Speaker 1: jocks rocks and then robot crashing bird? And where did
Speaker 1: you shoot that? Italy Rome? Italy? Yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 1: say twelve. Never been to Italy before? Is me and
Speaker 1: my mother? And uh and like there's so lame in retrospect,
Speaker 1: but like I love Italian food. I grew up in
Speaker 1: Rhode Island. I'm surrounded by the mafia. I mean, like
Speaker 1: every you know Italian Italian food is the thing. And
Speaker 1: I could not stand the food in Italy. It was
Speaker 1: just it was authentic and different. Remember getting pizza and
Speaker 1: so we walked on trying to find a McDonald's. So
Speaker 1: I'm ashamed of myself for that. But yeah, it was
Speaker 1: Stewart Gordon film Stewart Gordon who did a reanimator and
Speaker 1: actually created uh honey, shrunk the Kids, many many other things.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, yeah, yeah you were an actor. How did
Speaker 1: you get the call? Then? The night that that they
Speaker 1: called you in to be Jason Marsden on boy Meats World?
Speaker 1: How did how did how did that come about? Why
Speaker 1: were you called in the night of the show. Well,
Speaker 1: I was working on the Tom Show, The Tom Arnold Show,
Speaker 1: and it was the it was just it was just
Speaker 1: worked out. It was it was the last episode of
Speaker 1: that season forever. And uh, for some reason, we got
Speaker 1: like we rehearsed, we we did table reads on Friday, rehearsed,
Speaker 1: and then did our audience to night on Thursday. You
Speaker 1: guys did Monday through Friday. We did the same schedule
Speaker 1: at the beginning always because Michael Michael was a devout
Speaker 1: you so we couldn't work after sunset on Friday. Um, well,
Speaker 1: however it worked, it was it was like I couldn't
Speaker 1: work with you guys that we were shooting the same week.
Speaker 1: Maybe you on Tom did you shoot out everything you
Speaker 1: needed to shoot out on Wednesday and so Thursday you
Speaker 1: were free. I can't remember. All I know was the
Speaker 1: last day of shooting for us. They didn't make any
Speaker 1: special arrangements for me. Um and and I was I
Speaker 1: remember being asked to do boy Meats World and I
Speaker 1: couldn't uh and and We just left it at that
Speaker 1: and then like I remember the night that we were
Speaker 1: shooting for tom um my agent said, they really want
Speaker 1: you for Boy Meets World. Can you do You think
Speaker 1: you can go in on show night and do it?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I'll come in early. And
Speaker 1: I did. I showed up before y'all did. I. I
Speaker 1: was David Trey was the director. I believe I knew
Speaker 1: all my lines and I did the blocking and uh
Speaker 1: and uh, and I nailed it. You did. That was
Speaker 1: the thing that was amazing to me because I had
Speaker 1: worked with this other actor all week long. I want
Speaker 1: to say his name was Paige. I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: and he was a very nice guy, very nice guy.
Speaker 1: He just played it completely differently. He played it very
Speaker 1: straight man and almost angry. And I remember you coming
Speaker 1: in and us rehearsing, and me the whole time going like,
Speaker 1: oh that was a joke. Oh that was a joke.
Speaker 1: Oh there was a was like, oh he's it's funny.
Speaker 1: Oh this whole thing is funny. And we've talked on
Speaker 1: this show before about how when you work with a
Speaker 1: better actor than you, it makes you better. And that's
Speaker 1: one of my performances that I look back at early, early,
Speaker 1: early and go like that didn't suck as much as
Speaker 1: my normal episodes. And it's because I was next to
Speaker 1: you and I was like, oh, this is how you
Speaker 1: do it. We didn't we none of us knew how
Speaker 1: to do this yet. So watching you where you were
Speaker 1: like jaded by this point, you were what night seventeen
Speaker 1: eighteen and you were like, I've been kid, I've been
Speaker 1: doing this for nineteen years ago. Um, so it was yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just remember you my cigarette smoke exactly and
Speaker 1: we had a ton of fun room and uh, because
Speaker 1: we had met years before when you I've told the
Speaker 1: story on the on the podcast before where you made
Speaker 1: fun of me because um, I was so excited to
Speaker 1: meet Perry King from Rip Tide and You're like, rip
Speaker 1: he ripped, rushed off the boat from Connecticut, seen a chair,
Speaker 1: all excited and I'm like to learn my lines, dude,
Speaker 1: stop stop, just drave me with your authenticity, and you're
Speaker 1: all whatever, and you got that. That was that was
Speaker 1: almost home with Leon Norris. Yes, we had Lee and
Speaker 1: that was another Michael j show and Brittany Murphy got
Speaker 1: wrestler and and that was how you and I met
Speaker 1: and Shylo was there too, right, Yeah, it was between
Speaker 1: me and you and Shiloh and uh and and they
Speaker 1: gave the part to me for some reason. Gee, I
Speaker 1: wonder why. It's because you were clearly the best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was local. They didn't have to put you up.
Speaker 1: They have to put me up, right, it was local.
Speaker 1: You used to have to give a relocation fee if
Speaker 1: you moved from New York or whatever. That wait, they did, man.
Speaker 1: And then I told the story about the prick who
Speaker 1: sold my job when I met you that night with
Speaker 1: my with my dad coming down from City Walk, which
Speaker 1: you well everybody should know you are were and are
Speaker 1: still a an amusement park kind of aficionado. I mean
Speaker 1: it was, you know, I mean I like him. I
Speaker 1: like him a whole bunch. Yes, yeah, Universal Disney, Nottsbury Farm,
Speaker 1: every every Halloween. You were you were the man to
Speaker 1: go with. Um. You used to be a member of
Speaker 1: Club thirty three, right, correct? So cool? That was so
Speaker 1: cool when you told me that I've never been either.
Speaker 1: It was so so. Why do you think I was
Speaker 1: so much better than you? At the Boy Meets World audition?
Speaker 1: For why I got the part? And they sent your
Speaker 1: ass pack and I'm just curious. Well, because you're amazing. Man,
Speaker 1: you're so funny. And I say again, because Will is
Speaker 1: so funny and and and I think you did bring
Speaker 1: that authenticity and that awe to to this this character.
Speaker 1: And I can't remember what I did. Uh. I remember
Speaker 1: Ben because we all read with Ben it messed up
Speaker 1: his line and and uh and he thought it was
Speaker 1: his fault. Yeah, he felt bad. He felt so bad.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it was yeah, I could you can
Speaker 1: you know when you go to network you can feel it,
Speaker 1: you know? And I felt it like they clearly they
Speaker 1: liked me. But I think that's someone else in mind.
Speaker 1: And it turned out it was it was you. And
Speaker 1: you're I mean, the proof is in the pudding. Like
Speaker 1: you you you you kill it, you kill it. You're
Speaker 1: so funny. Well, it's very sweet are working on on TV,
Speaker 1: because that's what I want to know. The giant anxiety
Speaker 1: monster came up and bit me. It is what it
Speaker 1: is in a green screen in your room. And you
Speaker 1: don't have to work with anybody else that I do
Speaker 1: that all the time. We just don't film it too.
Speaker 1: Is so sick of watching this show. You have no
Speaker 1: idea he's doing a very week every part. It's so great. Um.
Speaker 1: Now here's the other thing that I want to I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm taking over this interview because i've met Justin before. UM,
Speaker 1: here's one of the things I want to. I want
Speaker 1: to ask you. Um, you came off as an All
Speaker 1: of us thought that you were in way more episodes
Speaker 1: than you actually were. Not me, I thought you were
Speaker 1: only in like three. But that's because that's because I
Speaker 1: wasn't there for some of your episodes. If you had
Speaker 1: asked me before we started this pot, I would have
Speaker 1: thought that Jason was up until season four or five
Speaker 1: two and had done like thirty episodes. Well, because I
Speaker 1: was always there. I was visiting. Yeah, there's maybe annoyingly so,
Speaker 1: but I would ever. I think I was doing step
Speaker 1: at the time, and after like I would finish and
Speaker 1: I just go over and and hang out. Now do
Speaker 1: you do one of the things people are asking? And
Speaker 1: I don't even know the answer to this. Do you
Speaker 1: know why the character just went away? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I have. I think maybe maybe maybe my agent asked
Speaker 1: for more money, maybe someone because I remember new producers coming,
Speaker 1: and maybe someone just didn't like me. I remember, Um,
Speaker 1: I was told at one point like I was just
Speaker 1: too busy, which might have been true, but I remember
Speaker 1: a stretcher. I'm like, no, I'm available, and I talked.
Speaker 1: I remember talking to Michael Jacobs and he went, you know,
Speaker 1: he's got his pens like to put you in a
Speaker 1: number episodes and uh and and he didn't. So what
Speaker 1: it really hurt the most was the final episode where
Speaker 1: they brought back everybody and did little cameos and except
Speaker 1: for me, And how do I know because I was
Speaker 1: there watching, Like, well, I guess, I mean it would
Speaker 1: have been nice, but it's fine. Right. Was that our
Speaker 1: graduation from high school episode when we brought back Lee?
Speaker 1: And that's right? And then we only mentioned Tony. You
Speaker 1: didn't actually see him, Remember they go, you got the
Speaker 1: That was the joke was we can't go down that hallway.
Speaker 1: You never come back, hey, Mr Turner, And you never
Speaker 1: actually saw him. So Lee was the only one who
Speaker 1: came back. Okay, so you didn't because we never got
Speaker 1: an explanation either. But by this time you were already
Speaker 1: on step by step. Right when did you start doing that,
Speaker 1: like at the same time as boy or yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: um um, I remember I booked White Squall when I
Speaker 1: was doing because I was on sept I told you yes,
Speaker 1: And I didn't do Step by Step until after that,
Speaker 1: and Full House was before boy, I I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I think it was after as well. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: the answer seems to be that maybe you were just
Speaker 1: too busy. But like the times when they would have
Speaker 1: been able to have you on, you were already working
Speaker 1: on something. You were working so consistently and for good
Speaker 1: reason that it just must not have worked out, because
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's not show talent, it's show business.
Speaker 1: And uh and then that's what it was. I mean
Speaker 1: I was I was I was available, I was there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was that craft service with us talking. I just
Speaker 1: remember you coming back from White Squall after having shot
Speaker 1: that film and an amazing film with Jeff Bridges. If
Speaker 1: anybody hasn't seen White Squall, it's absolutely a wonderful movie.
Speaker 1: I remember you coming back shredded, but you just were
Speaker 1: just ripped. Yes, I've worked out because Ridley Scott directed
Speaker 1: this movie. It is wonderful. Uh about like they called it,
Speaker 1: like Dead Poets Society on a boat. It was to
Speaker 1: go to school on a sailing ship. And we actually
Speaker 1: worked in a sailing ship and I was the first mate.
Speaker 1: And I just remember le Scott asking me. He's like, so,
Speaker 1: you know you he works on the shiep all the time,
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to look like a like a box,
Speaker 1: you know, can you make You're gonna work out? I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'll do that. So I had to be work out
Speaker 1: to be in the shape of a box, is what
Speaker 1: he was so interesting? Yea, whose idea was it? To
Speaker 1: keep your name the same for the character? The character
Speaker 1: was written for me, that's and then a few episodes
Speaker 1: later I forget which writer came up to me and said,
Speaker 1: you know, because obviously Mr Feeney, the great Bill Daniels
Speaker 1: that refers to everyone by the last name, and he says,
Speaker 1: he has to call you by your last name. Do
Speaker 1: you mind if we use your own? I think it
Speaker 1: would be funny, he said, I think it'd be funny
Speaker 1: as well. Right, So okay, now I know this is
Speaker 1: a different podcast, and yes, I'm gonna plug my other
Speaker 1: podcast out here Voices, And we talked about this a
Speaker 1: little there, but you are a huge voice over actor
Speaker 1: as well. Did that start pre boy you you you
Speaker 1: started when you were young doing voices as well. Correct, Yes,
Speaker 1: I did. Uh. First cartoon I did was Disney's Adventures
Speaker 1: of the Gummy Bears Old school Commy Bears Bouncing here
Speaker 1: and there and every Bears. No, did you do Care
Speaker 1: Bears too? Or were you just gummy no Care? Just
Speaker 1: coming awesome? And then you went from there too. I
Speaker 1: mean this was years later. Obviously you did a ton
Speaker 1: of stuff in between, but I mean, Max for Goofy movie,
Speaker 1: Goofy is got to be one of your most recognizable
Speaker 1: voice over roles, wouldn't you say? It's up there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's all Disney. How I guess that's the question
Speaker 1: is how much Disney did you work for? Were you?
Speaker 1: Because you were literally the voice of Disney for years? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did a tune Disney. Coming up next, It's Boy's World,
Speaker 1: followed by Jake American Dragon Jake long only on Tune Disney.
Speaker 1: You know, I hated that job so hard, which because
Speaker 1: and it's horrible, because like anybody on the planet would
Speaker 1: love that that that gig, but it was it was
Speaker 1: so they kept because I'm good at talking fast, they
Speaker 1: kept adding more and more words to it. I was
Speaker 1: sort of like on call Um like at the drop
Speaker 1: of the had like, no, you can't go on vacation.
Speaker 1: We need you to come in and do the spot
Speaker 1: for UM for the Mickey Mouse Club. And I didn't
Speaker 1: like that because it wasn't it wasn't a contract. I
Speaker 1: wasn't a Disney employee. It was like a note. I'm like,
Speaker 1: somebody's not balancing here. And you can only like be
Speaker 1: faux enthusiastic about something for so long. But it's want
Speaker 1: to bow your brains out, So I got I just
Speaker 1: got completely burned out by it. Oh my. Next, it's
Speaker 1: so weird because I want to sit here and talk
Speaker 1: to Jason about more stuff, but I know him so
Speaker 1: well that it's called Well, it's not that I know
Speaker 1: the answers, it's that it's like I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: interviewing my best friend because that's what I'm doing. So
Speaker 1: it's just learned that Will has a glass eye. What
Speaker 1: is something else we don't know about? Will? Give us
Speaker 1: give us a secret about Will? Here we go, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. Um see, I guess you can cut out
Speaker 1: anything that you don't want, right, that's right? Here we go?
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh god, I think sexual or weird? Please?
Speaker 1: Oh that I got nothing. Will uh will oh. There's
Speaker 1: so many things people will almost almost just like move
Speaker 1: to Amsterdam. It didn't come back one time. We didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Let our audience doesn't know. Our audience doesn't
Speaker 1: know it. So tell the story for our audience. Well,
Speaker 1: will it. We've gone together beforehand. I think you went
Speaker 1: even again before before I met you. Had you was
Speaker 1: the first time we went with with Shiloh, And no,
Speaker 1: that was the first time. Yeah, you had gone a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Well I thought you had gone a
Speaker 1: couple of times by yourself or no, no, no, the
Speaker 1: first time and the first time I've ever been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was such a good trip, and um, then I
Speaker 1: think we'll went back again. Uh. It was with me
Speaker 1: between seasons, and I would check in on them every
Speaker 1: so often. We didn't have pages or nothing. We'd you'd
Speaker 1: go to the like a pay phone, you call me
Speaker 1: and check in and you were like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay here. I'm like, okay, So I got a plane
Speaker 1: ticket flew out to to talk some sense and to you.
Speaker 1: He was staying in a in like this guy's house
Speaker 1: before an existing. I have found this apartment. Yeah, the apartment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I've gotten there like stupid early in the morning,
Speaker 1: like and you had told me, like you know, he
Speaker 1: sleeps in and trying to disturb everyone until like afternoon
Speaker 1: or something. And so I waited as long as I could.
Speaker 1: I think it was cold or something, and I like
Speaker 1: knocked on the door and this poor older gentleman and
Speaker 1: like a shirt and his and his white tidyes opened
Speaker 1: the door and is like, oh that must be Hans. Sorry,
Speaker 1: this like three level house. Go upstairs and Will is
Speaker 1: staying in a room the size of this chair. Okay,
Speaker 1: and what are you looking there? I can't I'm messing up,
Speaker 1: like the square of this chair, like he's our one
Speaker 1: corner TVs in on the corner a giant, giant bull
Speaker 1: of cigarette butts bhill. But he had a he had
Speaker 1: a I know this is I'm sorry I'm describing things.
Speaker 1: It's it's not basics. The door was a was a
Speaker 1: mattress that Will had procured for me so I could
Speaker 1: sleep in there as well. But to show you to
Speaker 1: illustrate how long he had been there. You know where
Speaker 1: I'm going with this. I know exactly where you're going
Speaker 1: with vot Up Up. So every night he would go
Speaker 1: to he would go to sleep. You'd have some cigarettes
Speaker 1: whatever on this little tiny television and he'd smoke and
Speaker 1: he'd watch whatever. And then this would come on from
Speaker 1: Motor Up and it was in Dutch and went on
Speaker 1: there and he's he looks at me, He's like, watch this,
Speaker 1: and he starts reciting the intromercial word for word in Dutch.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and I'm losing my mind. I'm losing
Speaker 1: my hilarious and said, but mostly hilarious. He would just
Speaker 1: been watching this every day Street Blues. It would show
Speaker 1: two episodes, the Hill Street Blues and then the Motor
Speaker 1: Up commercial and it would always start Motor Up and
Speaker 1: a ment car. And so I would just sit there
Speaker 1: and this, this is a solid block of ice. How
Speaker 1: is it still working? This row was has frozen solid.
Speaker 1: I still remember the Motor Up commercial. That was a
Speaker 1: fun trip. And burger king every night, burger king every night. Um.
Speaker 1: That's when I was writing the Winnie the Pooh movie
Speaker 1: for Disney. I wrote the screenplay for that. But no, Jason,
Speaker 1: this is how good a friend Jason was. I called
Speaker 1: him and I said I'm not coming home. Can you
Speaker 1: tell them at Boyny's World that I'm not coming back?
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Check? This is this is ninety nine,
Speaker 1: summer of ninety six. Can you just tell them I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna stay here and smoke weed and cigarettes and
Speaker 1: eat Burger King and write scripts. And Jason's like uh huh.
Speaker 1: And something like thirty hours later, there's a knock at
Speaker 1: my door and he's like, okay, Well what I did
Speaker 1: when we don't know Will is I did? I called
Speaker 1: Michael and I was like, hey, look, Will wants to
Speaker 1: stay in Amsterdam. But listen, I know it's a horrible loss,
Speaker 1: but I could fill in if you want. I'm available anyway.
Speaker 1: He hung up, and I was like, I guess I
Speaker 1: better go, don't But he didn't know. Do you remember
Speaker 1: what you said to me? Because you you you came
Speaker 1: in and you're like, here's what's going to happen. We're
Speaker 1: gonna stay here, we're gonna hang out for a week
Speaker 1: and have some fun. And then you're getting on the
Speaker 1: plane and you're flying home. And he dragged me back
Speaker 1: from Amsterdam. Yeah, oh man, And I'd still be living there.
Speaker 1: I was just there not long ago, and that is
Speaker 1: now a hotel, that same and that apartment you found writer,
Speaker 1: that's the same phone that you would go out to
Speaker 1: every night. Um was the same one I called Jason from. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's near It was next to it a hostel,
Speaker 1: I want to say it was, and and right across
Speaker 1: the street from the Reichs Museum. It was great a spot,
Speaker 1: no wonder you want to stay. You and I have
Speaker 1: done Amsterdam, Paris, London, London? Where else have We've been?
Speaker 1: Kind of all around the world together, Disney World a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Disney World a cool way with the
Speaker 1: old school like Disney Way where you'd get to back
Speaker 1: door the rides and do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: That was really cool. Um do you remember is is
Speaker 1: the what's the one where all the clubs where everybody dances?
Speaker 1: Is that still at Disney World? Paradise Island, Leasure Island
Speaker 1: sadly gone? Oh man? We had some Now we are
Speaker 1: recording this during spooky season and there is a fresh
Speaker 1: revival of hocus Pocus. It is now bigger than it
Speaker 1: has ever been. Did you would you have ever expected that?
Speaker 1: What was filming that like? Um? Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you watched the movie, but I that
Speaker 1: wasn't me in the beginning. That was the fabulous and
Speaker 1: talented Seawan Murray. So I I didn't actually do any filming.
Speaker 1: I came in after the fact and I and I
Speaker 1: looped um the cat that he turns into, and then
Speaker 1: for continuity, I got I looped Sean as well. So
Speaker 1: it was it was about three days of work for me.
Speaker 1: I mean I came in like motally done. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I just did. I've been doing these convention
Speaker 1: appearances with Amory Cats and Vanessa Shaw and we just
Speaker 1: have a blast. I haven't seen Omary in thirty years.
Speaker 1: We did a show called Erie Indiana together and uh
Speaker 1: and Vanessa I knew because we both knew Jonathan Brandis
Speaker 1: really got about Erie Indiana. I love that people. People
Speaker 1: are digging it. People are digging it so hard. I
Speaker 1: never I mean like like you guys, I mean, you
Speaker 1: work on a show. I mean you had a good
Speaker 1: long run. But there's a lots of shows that had
Speaker 1: good long runs that aren't as celebrated as hard as
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World. So that feeling that you guys have
Speaker 1: right now is I mean, it's it's very similar for
Speaker 1: a goofy movie and hocus focus. It's you don't expect it,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of those wonderful things that that
Speaker 1: we are gifted as in this unforgiving business that you know,
Speaker 1: speaking of, which, what are you doing now? Because I
Speaker 1: know that you've got the Mars Variety Show, which is
Speaker 1: pretty awesome, and you are your life has become a
Speaker 1: lot about music lately. Yeah, I thank you for mentioning that.
Speaker 1: I have a show on YouTube called The Mars Variety Show,
Speaker 1: which celebrates independent musicians and stand up comedians here in Nashville.
Speaker 1: It's inspired by like the Dean Martin Show. I was
Speaker 1: watching a lot of those old variety shows, Dean Martin Show, laughing,
Speaker 1: Bert Sugarman's Midnight Special, and uh and I'm like, well, see,
Speaker 1: I could be like a Dean Martin. I like to
Speaker 1: be a host. I have uh you know, I'll feed
Speaker 1: my ego. I can do that and then I can
Speaker 1: share with the rest of the planet. These these artists
Speaker 1: who who will perform for like six people on a
Speaker 1: Wednesday night melt you know, pour their guts out, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to be seen by a bigger audience.
Speaker 1: So that's what the show is designed for. We have
Speaker 1: three seasons. I have a Halloween special and I'm very
Speaker 1: proud of. Uh. It's silly and stupid and it's it's
Speaker 1: thirty minutes and it's fantastic, called The mars scare Riety Show.
Speaker 1: So I'm still working on that. I might I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna do more seasons, probably next year, but still acting,
Speaker 1: doing um uh cartoons and video games and even get
Speaker 1: my on camera career off the ground. Did a couple
Speaker 1: of things uh here and there, and I have a
Speaker 1: movie that uh, very exciting thing that I'm not allowed
Speaker 1: to talk about, but I've been. It is musical based
Speaker 1: and I have to learn, uh to you know, to
Speaker 1: learn some songs and sing and play guitar and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. And I'm very excited for that. Well are
Speaker 1: you on social media? Where can people follow you so
Speaker 1: that when you're ready to talk about that very exciting
Speaker 1: thing people can hear about it. Daniel Fisher will thank
Speaker 1: you for asking. You can find Jason Marsden add Jason
Speaker 1: Marsden on Instagram official, Jason Marsden on TikTok, or Jason
Speaker 1: morriston official. I can't remember and I'm on the Twitter
Speaker 1: as well, but I most of my focus is the
Speaker 1: instant family. But TikTok is the thing. Yeah, tell me
Speaker 1: about your TikTok. I want to know what are something?
Speaker 1: Do you have like a real popular TikTok? They like,
Speaker 1: what's your most popular TikTok? Yes, so I hear this
Speaker 1: is a weird thing, but I love it. So I
Speaker 1: did this cartoon, the the sequel to The Lion King,
Speaker 1: and my character, his name is Kovu, and he is
Speaker 1: the chosen heir of the throne from scar because you
Speaker 1: have to say chosen because you can't say incests on Disney.
Speaker 1: That basically, you know, if you follow the like mating
Speaker 1: habits of lions, that's pretty much what it was. Anyway,
Speaker 1: shows an air and and he's the smoldering, like dark,
Speaker 1: darker version of Simba. We call him hot topic Simba
Speaker 1: at around the house should have gay j earrings and whatnot.
Speaker 1: And uh and I get so much fan mail uh
Speaker 1: for for that and and and mostly fine young gals
Speaker 1: who come up and saying that, oh man, that that
Speaker 1: that character, that voice. You know, curious steerings happened in
Speaker 1: my youth. So I a TikTok showcasing that and it's
Speaker 1: hit over a million, like in the twenty four hours
Speaker 1: was oh my god. But then I post stuff about
Speaker 1: like watch the Mars Variety show. Nobody cares, you know,
Speaker 1: Goofy movie millions millions? Don't you care about what I want?
Speaker 1: My artistic integrity? Don you make fun of Will in
Speaker 1: the Goofy movie voice? Oh man in it? You know what?
Speaker 1: You know what Goofy and Will have and come? You
Speaker 1: know what? Max? I can't have a com and they're
Speaker 1: both goofy? Will you like power Line? Hey? Will? Maybe
Speaker 1: you want Stoppable should hang out well together. I'll gust
Speaker 1: see power Line with you and Ron stoppabo that Uh yeah?
Speaker 1: Am I? Or is he me? Oh? This is gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting fantastic? Maybe you hook me up with that
Speaker 1: that Kim, she's pretty nice. I already already lied to Roxanne,
Speaker 1: so so tacking up with Kim and has have have
Speaker 1: have Ron Stoppable and Max ever actually met before? I
Speaker 1: think this is an interesting Disney crossover. Yeah you remember
Speaker 1: that one like after party at Club thirty three. That's right?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was there? Oh yeah that was I
Speaker 1: was about to be there that night. I don't don't
Speaker 1: start with me. Don't even start with me. H and
Speaker 1: Disney has just suit us somehow. World is now over all,
Speaker 1: right Jason. Before we finish, I do have is now
Speaker 1: doing the voice of Max good exactly what he's doing
Speaker 1: the voice of everybody. UM, just a quick question for you,
Speaker 1: because we've touched on this in other episodes. Looking back
Speaker 1: at your life because you are a true child actor.
Speaker 1: We're a child actor that has grown up into an
Speaker 1: adult actor. Do you look back at your career as
Speaker 1: a child actor or something positive? Or do you look
Speaker 1: back at your career as a child actor as something
Speaker 1: not so great? Uh? Nothing but positivity. I mean, like
Speaker 1: you know, there's always ups and downs. You're you're a
Speaker 1: kid in a very adult industry, you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: but I can't trade any experience that I ever had
Speaker 1: because I worked on so many uh intellectual properties that
Speaker 1: I loved, you know. Um, I've had amazing experiences getting
Speaker 1: travel all of the world. UM, established friendships with fine
Speaker 1: folks like you guys. I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love hearing that. And finally, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite project that you've ever worked on? Uh? It's like
Speaker 1: picking your favorite child. It can't pick just one man.
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, you know, each show, each project you're
Speaker 1: working on, means something different based on the people you
Speaker 1: work with, based on the experience. It's hard to pick
Speaker 1: picktures one. I'm glad to hear that. What's your least
Speaker 1: favorite project? And why did you hate the actors you
Speaker 1: were working with? No, I'm kidding, you don't have to
Speaker 1: answer that one. To look at his face, UM, I
Speaker 1: did an episode of Will and Grayson. It was not
Speaker 1: my favorite experience at all. I hear Will is nice
Speaker 1: and Grace is nice. But and as a dick, you
Speaker 1: know you were you guys are I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys ever worked on any other sitcoms after? What
Speaker 1: means really? But you had such a family, um dynamic
Speaker 1: and the same thing on step by step and you're
Speaker 1: allowed to try things. And then um, there were certain
Speaker 1: shows I worked on afterwards where there was a shift
Speaker 1: and people were not as welcoming and it's like you say,
Speaker 1: what's on the page or you're out of here, like
Speaker 1: you won't try anything. And I think it was caught
Speaker 1: off guard by that. And I'm I don't know if
Speaker 1: you could tell but I'm a little arrogant sometimes and
Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. And uh, and that's and I'll
Speaker 1: just say I was supposed to do two episodes. I
Speaker 1: ended up doing just one. It was there's there's being
Speaker 1: with Jason, especially when you're out. First of all, you
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna be fearless no matter what's in
Speaker 1: front of him, and you're always wondering, like am I
Speaker 1: going to get into a fight? Like what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: right now? So one of my favorites and jump into
Speaker 1: a pool and that story? Can I tell this story, Jason? Please?
Speaker 1: So I had done a film called I think it
Speaker 1: was called Lady Killers at the time it became gold Diggers.
Speaker 1: It was there was a way it was not good.
Speaker 1: So we were at the Vegas Film Festival for Sina
Speaker 1: Vegas and we were at a big party there the
Speaker 1: night before the festival started, and it was all this
Speaker 1: press and there's hundreds of people around a pool, and
Speaker 1: of course I turned to Jason at one point and
Speaker 1: I was like, I bet you you won't strip completely
Speaker 1: butt naked and jump into the pool in front of everybody.
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I'm not gonna do that. And
Speaker 1: I go, I, you know, I'll give you four hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: and I turn away as like a joke, and by
Speaker 1: the time I turned back, he essentially has his pants off,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, dude, I'm kidding, don't we We're fine,
Speaker 1: don't worry about And he's looking at me the whole time,
Speaker 1: going like wait, what's what's the problem, and butt naked
Speaker 1: packed house jumps in the water. Everybody then is staring
Speaker 1: like looking at him. He gets out, we're laughing and
Speaker 1: and security comes over grab us. We're then in the
Speaker 1: He's like I'm going to have him arrested. Him like whoa, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're good. We're good. We're friends with the owner of
Speaker 1: the hotel, which we weren't. But I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: here as a guest guest of the hotel owner, you
Speaker 1: know what was his name again, and I'm a very
Speaker 1: famous actor movie this guy. This guy's like you gotta
Speaker 1: go look at him. Just go into the hotel room
Speaker 1: and keep him there. And then the thing that amazed
Speaker 1: me is you wouldn't even take the cash. I tried
Speaker 1: to give you the four hundred bucks, and you're like,
Speaker 1: now you already had the experience. I'll get I'll get
Speaker 1: naked for free, just ask so funny. And then I
Speaker 1: remember the director of the film coming up to me
Speaker 1: and going, I can't believe you did that. I can't
Speaker 1: believe you did that. I'm like, what, we were just
Speaker 1: having funny goes. No, had I known you were going
Speaker 1: to do that, we would have written the name of
Speaker 1: the film on his ass. Oh my god, nothing. Greg
Speaker 1: took it someone when you all took it. I was
Speaker 1: me getting of getting out of the pool surrounded by security.
Speaker 1: Were you there too? No? No, I just heard about it. Oh.
Speaker 1: To Will's credit, like, yeah, they were. The security was
Speaker 1: pissed because you know, penises are deadly uh minus anyway,
Speaker 1: But but the security was escorting me out and and
Speaker 1: very upset, and Will was like, I got you, ja don't.
Speaker 1: He's following me behind, Like I don't. I'm with you
Speaker 1: the whole way. And then do you remember the big
Speaker 1: head of security came up and he was cracking up.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, what are you doing? What are you thinking?
Speaker 1: What are you thinking? And they were gonna kick me
Speaker 1: out of the hotel, but because we were staying at
Speaker 1: the hotel, they couldn't, so I'm like, I'll just go
Speaker 1: to my room. I won't come back down. Oh, it
Speaker 1: was so much. We've had a number of those, just
Speaker 1: random incidents where again you're fearless. God. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love you. I love you guys. I know you
Speaker 1: gotta go. Thank you so much for for being here
Speaker 1: with us. Thank you for asking me. Are we going
Speaker 1: to see you next year around at the convention circuit? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you are great. I'm also I can finally announce here
Speaker 1: on Pod Meets World, which is awesome, that I will
Speaker 1: be joining Jason at Nashville Comic Con on what's June
Speaker 1: three and fourth, I believe fourth and fifth, Saturday Sunday,
Speaker 1: June fourth and fifth. I get to hang out with
Speaker 1: my my boy Jason in Nashville. And I've been a
Speaker 1: horrible friend and have not actually visited him Nashville in
Speaker 1: the years. He's lived there ten years, and the only
Speaker 1: way to get him to come to a con is
Speaker 1: to pay for his flight in a hotel, and I
Speaker 1: would have done that ages ago. But come to Nashville
Speaker 1: to see the two of us together, because he's going
Speaker 1: to show me the town. And you've got to be
Speaker 1: the first time I check it out so you can
Speaker 1: come on a pub crawl with us, as Jason shows
Speaker 1: me everything around there, So that is yes, I don't
Speaker 1: him to get naked. Yes. June fourth and fifth, Jason,
Speaker 1: I bet you have a really good answer to this question,
Speaker 1: so I want to ask it are what are some
Speaker 1: of the roles that you auditioned for that you came
Speaker 1: really close to getting but didn't get good? Well? Uh,
Speaker 1: Eric and boy meets World, Right, I read really close.
Speaker 1: I read for Stallone's son and Rocky five, and he
Speaker 1: cast his own son, so it's not like he lost
Speaker 1: out to another actor. Yeah, but I went to the
Speaker 1: director's house like seven times. It was John Abltson, who
Speaker 1: did a karate kid in the first Rocky and um gosh,
Speaker 1: hell he's another one. I actually, I don't know how
Speaker 1: close I got, but I did read for Batman beyond you.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not even the Batman fan on the bed,
Speaker 1: And when he booked it, he didn't even want to
Speaker 1: tell me because he's like, he felt so bad, he
Speaker 1: felt so bad, but he killed But he killed it.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine I would have done any better. No,
Speaker 1: you certainly wouldn't have. Not with that role. I was
Speaker 1: I was meant to I was I was I was
Speaker 1: meant to wear the cow my friend, I think all
Speaker 1: three of us being up for Trojan War and being
Speaker 1: at a party, and it was we were all like
Speaker 1: it was down to like the three of us and
Speaker 1: like maybe five other people or whatever, and we're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, one of us is gonna get it.
Speaker 1: Guys were like gotten a hoddle and we're like one
Speaker 1: of and both of you guys ended up nothing that
Speaker 1: was at the boy Mean's World rat party. Was that
Speaker 1: what it was? I just remember realizing that we had
Speaker 1: all read for this movie, we all wanted it because
Speaker 1: the script was so good, and I thank thankfully I
Speaker 1: I ruined that so we had no problems. I don't
Speaker 1: know why again, and I'm not just saying this, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why you don't start more stuff, like
Speaker 1: you clearly carry a picture and you're so wonderful and
Speaker 1: it's very sat thank you, but get whatever you're going on.
Speaker 1: Get over it. It's it's that easy, right, Just get
Speaker 1: over Just get over it. Well that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. If you actually look at IMDb,
Speaker 1: Jason and I have played best friends or played friends
Speaker 1: in like fifty different things. So it's just almost every cartoon,
Speaker 1: every uh film, everything, it's they cast the two of
Speaker 1: us together just because the chemistry is there obviously, So
Speaker 1: I AMDB. Will also tell you that he's doing Sonic
Speaker 1: the Hedgehog three. So everything you see, I leave everything
Speaker 1: you see. I'm telling you you were Chris Pratt and
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy if memory serves awesome. Well, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see you again next year. And you guys can
Speaker 1: go see Will and Jason at the Nashville Comic Con
Speaker 1: June four and get your tickets the minute they become available.
Speaker 1: You're available National comicon dot com right now. There you go.
Speaker 1: Come check us out because I'm going to need people
Speaker 1: to uh so I have a bigger line than Jason
Speaker 1: or else I feel bad about. Oh, you're definitely going
Speaker 1: to want that. Yeah, what we meet Tonky talks, That's
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I'm happy with that. I just want
Speaker 1: to go. I can't wait. It's gonna be a ton
Speaker 1: of fun. Thank you for being here, Jason. It was
Speaker 1: great to do Always by Danielle by Phil see you justin,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, is so perfect perfectly Jason. It is
Speaker 1: that the red like director's chair, spot of red curtain sitting.
Speaker 1: He's slightly slightly off center. I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: wearing a turtleneck. That's all he needed, right, would have
Speaker 1: been a nice touch. He's the first guy to admit
Speaker 1: that a lot that he thinks it's his fault. But
Speaker 1: to me, every time I'm with him and every time
Speaker 1: I used to watch him work, that's a guy who
Speaker 1: should have been a superstar in my opinion. That's a
Speaker 1: guy who should have had his own sitcom, his own show.
Speaker 1: Um he and and he's the first one to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I I shoot myself in the foot all the time.
Speaker 1: But he's so talented and so funny. Uh that It's
Speaker 1: just I was always I was always in aw of
Speaker 1: them every time. But doing like a variety show like
Speaker 1: he is is exactly perfect, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because he like he's he It probably hurt his career
Speaker 1: that he was so Hollywood in the sense that he
Speaker 1: like lives in breeze show business. He's like him, you know,
Speaker 1: he just wants to be the center of attention. He
Speaker 1: was and think in a weird way that could have
Speaker 1: worked against him as an actor. You know, like even
Speaker 1: said it with you when you were up for Eric,
Speaker 1: you came across as more sort of awe shucks, authentic,
Speaker 1: you know, and like he you probably lost that vibe
Speaker 1: pretty early because he's so good and he's so he's
Speaker 1: such a pro. So really like he's an old school,
Speaker 1: polished performer, and like there's less and less need for
Speaker 1: that these days, do you know what I mean? Like, so,
Speaker 1: I definitely think like doing a variety show, doing a
Speaker 1: hosting gig like that is totally his jam. Yeah, he's no,
Speaker 1: he's an entertainer. He's a pure bread entertainer. Where it's
Speaker 1: just he can sing and he can dance, and and
Speaker 1: the thing is when he can't do one of those things,
Speaker 1: he just still throws himself into it. Where I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't see that a lot anymore. There's no kind
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, kind of wall flower about it.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know, it's like no, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to do that, but I'm just gonna go do
Speaker 1: it anyway. Um, he was fearless with that stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was certainly a good role model to look up to.
Speaker 1: Which was which is great, but oh god, it's I
Speaker 1: love your dynamic together. I absolutely love watching you two together.
Speaker 1: I could just like sit back and need some popcorn
Speaker 1: and it's so funny. Well, my parents call him number four.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's because he's also one of those
Speaker 1: people where he'll he'll smack you down when you need to,
Speaker 1: which is exactly what you need to keep level did
Speaker 1: in this business. You need somebody to go like, come on,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me with what you just said? And
Speaker 1: he was always that guy for me, which was which
Speaker 1: was so great. So yeah, he kept me grounded and
Speaker 1: became a just such a brother when I really needed
Speaker 1: one at the beginning. You know, writer, you and I
Speaker 1: were always close, but our age differences were so much
Speaker 1: uh different, started really when we became close, all of
Speaker 1: us really did. And it was one of those things
Speaker 1: where Jason Man at a time in my life where
Speaker 1: I needed a brother, he was there and it was
Speaker 1: just awesome, um, because my brothers were always there for me,
Speaker 1: but they were there for me at different parts of
Speaker 1: the country. Yeah, so I had j right from the
Speaker 1: time I moved out to l A And thank god,
Speaker 1: because I would have had a much different life if
Speaker 1: I didn't, it's wonderful. Well, thank you guys for joining
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