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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it was yeah, I could you can

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00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: you know when you go to network you can feel it,

428
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: you know? And I felt it like they clearly they

429
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: liked me. But I think that's someone else in mind.

430
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: And it turned out it was it was you. And

431
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: you're I mean, the proof is in the pudding. Like

432
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: you you you you kill it, you kill it. You're

433
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: so funny. Well, it's very sweet are working on on TV,

434
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: because that's what I want to know. The giant anxiety

435
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: monster came up and bit me. It is what it

436
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: is in a green screen in your room. And you

437
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: don't have to work with anybody else that I do

438
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: that all the time. We just don't film it too.

439
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: Is so sick of watching this show. You have no

440
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: idea he's doing a very week every part. It's so great. Um.

441
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: Now here's the other thing that I want to I'm sorry,

442
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking over this interview because i've met Justin before. UM,

443
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: here's one of the things I want to. I want

444
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: to ask you. Um, you came off as an All

445
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: of us thought that you were in way more episodes

446
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: than you actually were. Not me, I thought you were

447
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: only in like three. But that's because that's because I

448
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: wasn't there for some of your episodes. If you had

449
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: asked me before we started this pot, I would have

450
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: thought that Jason was up until season four or five

451
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: two and had done like thirty episodes. Well, because I

452
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: was always there. I was visiting. Yeah, there's maybe annoyingly so,

453
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: but I would ever. I think I was doing step

454
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: at the time, and after like I would finish and

455
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 1: I just go over and and hang out. Now do

456
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: you do one of the things people are asking? And

457
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: I don't even know the answer to this. Do you

458
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: know why the character just went away? I have no idea.

459
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: I have. I think maybe maybe maybe my agent asked

460
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: for more money, maybe someone because I remember new producers coming,

461
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: and maybe someone just didn't like me. I remember, Um,

462
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: I was told at one point like I was just

463
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: too busy, which might have been true, but I remember

464
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: a stretcher. I'm like, no, I'm available, and I talked.

465
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: I remember talking to Michael Jacobs and he went, you know,

466
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: he's got his pens like to put you in a

467
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: number episodes and uh and and he didn't. So what

468
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: it really hurt the most was the final episode where

469
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: they brought back everybody and did little cameos and except

470
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: for me, And how do I know because I was

471
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: there watching, Like, well, I guess, I mean it would

472
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: have been nice, but it's fine. Right. Was that our

473
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: graduation from high school episode when we brought back Lee?

474
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: And that's right? And then we only mentioned Tony. You

475
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: didn't actually see him, Remember they go, you got the

476
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: That was the joke was we can't go down that hallway.

477
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: You never come back, hey, Mr Turner, And you never

478
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: actually saw him. So Lee was the only one who

479
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: came back. Okay, so you didn't because we never got

480
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: an explanation either. But by this time you were already

481
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: on step by step. Right when did you start doing that,

482
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: like at the same time as boy or yeah, okay,

483
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: um um, I remember I booked White Squall when I

484
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: was doing because I was on sept I told you yes,

485
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: And I didn't do Step by Step until after that,

486
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: and Full House was before boy, I I can't remember.

487
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: I think it was after as well. Okay, I think

488
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: the answer seems to be that maybe you were just

489
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: too busy. But like the times when they would have

490
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: been able to have you on, you were already working

491
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: on something. You were working so consistently and for good

492
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: reason that it just must not have worked out, because

493
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's not show talent, it's show business.

494
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: And uh and then that's what it was. I mean

495
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: I was I was I was available, I was there. Yeah,

496
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: it was that craft service with us talking. I just

497
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: remember you coming back from White Squall after having shot

498
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: that film and an amazing film with Jeff Bridges. If

499
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: anybody hasn't seen White Squall, it's absolutely a wonderful movie.

500
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: I remember you coming back shredded, but you just were

501
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: just ripped. Yes, I've worked out because Ridley Scott directed

502
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: this movie. It is wonderful. Uh about like they called it,

503
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: like Dead Poets Society on a boat. It was to

504
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: go to school on a sailing ship. And we actually

505
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: worked in a sailing ship and I was the first mate.

506
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: And I just remember le Scott asking me. He's like, so,

507
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: you know you he works on the shiep all the time,

508
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to look like a like a box,

509
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, can you make You're gonna work out? I'm like, yes,

510
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: I'll do that. So I had to be work out

511
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: to be in the shape of a box, is what

512
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: he was so interesting? Yea, whose idea was it? To

513
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: keep your name the same for the character? The character

514
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: was written for me, that's and then a few episodes

515
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: later I forget which writer came up to me and said,

516
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, because obviously Mr Feeney, the great Bill Daniels

517
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: that refers to everyone by the last name, and he says,

518
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: he has to call you by your last name. Do

519
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: you mind if we use your own? I think it

520
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: would be funny, he said, I think it'd be funny

521
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: as well. Right, So okay, now I know this is

522
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: a different podcast, and yes, I'm gonna plug my other

523
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: podcast out here Voices, And we talked about this a

524
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: little there, but you are a huge voice over actor

525
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: as well. Did that start pre boy you you you

526
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: started when you were young doing voices as well. Correct, Yes,

527
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: I did. Uh. First cartoon I did was Disney's Adventures

528
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: of the Gummy Bears Old school Commy Bears Bouncing here

529
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: and there and every Bears. No, did you do Care

530
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: Bears too? Or were you just gummy no Care? Just

531
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: coming awesome? And then you went from there too. I

532
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: mean this was years later. Obviously you did a ton

533
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: of stuff in between, but I mean, Max for Goofy movie,

534
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: Goofy is got to be one of your most recognizable

535
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: voice over roles, wouldn't you say? It's up there? Yeah,

536
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: and it's all Disney. How I guess that's the question

537
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: is how much Disney did you work for? Were you?

538
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: Because you were literally the voice of Disney for years? Well, yeah,

539
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: I did a tune Disney. Coming up next, It's Boy's World,

540
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: followed by Jake American Dragon Jake long only on Tune Disney.

541
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, I hated that job so hard, which because

542
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: and it's horrible, because like anybody on the planet would

543
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: love that that that gig, but it was it was

544
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: so they kept because I'm good at talking fast, they

545
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: kept adding more and more words to it. I was

546
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: sort of like on call Um like at the drop

547
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: of the had like, no, you can't go on vacation.

548
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: We need you to come in and do the spot

549
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: for UM for the Mickey Mouse Club. And I didn't

550
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: like that because it wasn't it wasn't a contract. I

551
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: wasn't a Disney employee. It was like a note. I'm like,

552
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: somebody's not balancing here. And you can only like be

553
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: faux enthusiastic about something for so long. But it's want

554
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: to bow your brains out, So I got I just

555
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: got completely burned out by it. Oh my. Next, it's

556
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: so weird because I want to sit here and talk

557
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: to Jason about more stuff, but I know him so

558
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: well that it's called Well, it's not that I know

559
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: the answers, it's that it's like I feel like I'm

560
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: interviewing my best friend because that's what I'm doing. So

561
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: it's just learned that Will has a glass eye. What

562
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: is something else we don't know about? Will? Give us

563
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: give us a secret about Will? Here we go, Oh

564
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: my gosh. Um see, I guess you can cut out

565
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: anything that you don't want, right, that's right? Here we go?

566
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh god, I think sexual or weird? Please?

567
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Oh that I got nothing. Will uh will oh. There's

568
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: so many things people will almost almost just like move

569
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: to Amsterdam. It didn't come back one time. We didn't

570
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: know that. Let our audience doesn't know. Our audience doesn't

571
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: know it. So tell the story for our audience. Well,

572
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: will it. We've gone together beforehand. I think you went

573
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: even again before before I met you. Had you was

574
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: the first time we went with with Shiloh, And no,

575
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: that was the first time. Yeah, you had gone a

576
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: couple of times. Well I thought you had gone a

577
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: couple of times by yourself or no, no, no, the

578
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: first time and the first time I've ever been. Yeah,

579
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: it was such a good trip, and um, then I

580
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: think we'll went back again. Uh. It was with me

581
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: between seasons, and I would check in on them every

582
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: so often. We didn't have pages or nothing. We'd you'd

583
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: go to the like a pay phone, you call me

584
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: and check in and you were like, I don't know, man,

585
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna

586
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: stay here. I'm like, okay, So I got a plane

587
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: ticket flew out to to talk some sense and to you.

588
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: He was staying in a in like this guy's house

589
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: before an existing. I have found this apartment. Yeah, the apartment. Yeah,

590
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: and I've gotten there like stupid early in the morning,

591
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: like and you had told me, like you know, he

592
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: sleeps in and trying to disturb everyone until like afternoon

593
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: or something. And so I waited as long as I could.

594
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: I think it was cold or something, and I like

595
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: knocked on the door and this poor older gentleman and

596
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: like a shirt and his and his white tidyes opened

597
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: the door and is like, oh that must be Hans. Sorry,

598
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: this like three level house. Go upstairs and Will is

599
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: staying in a room the size of this chair. Okay,

600
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: and what are you looking there? I can't I'm messing up,

601
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: like the square of this chair, like he's our one

602
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: corner TVs in on the corner a giant, giant bull

603
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: of cigarette butts bhill. But he had a he had

604
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: a I know this is I'm sorry I'm describing things.

605
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: It's it's not basics. The door was a was a

606
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: mattress that Will had procured for me so I could

607
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: sleep in there as well. But to show you to

608
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: illustrate how long he had been there. You know where

609
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm going with this. I know exactly where you're going

610
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: with vot Up Up. So every night he would go

611
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: to he would go to sleep. You'd have some cigarettes

612
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: whatever on this little tiny television and he'd smoke and

613
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: he'd watch whatever. And then this would come on from

614
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: Motor Up and it was in Dutch and went on

615
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: there and he's he looks at me, He's like, watch this,

616
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: and he starts reciting the intromercial word for word in Dutch.

617
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and I'm losing my mind. I'm losing

618
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: my hilarious and said, but mostly hilarious. He would just

619
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: been watching this every day Street Blues. It would show

620
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: two episodes, the Hill Street Blues and then the Motor

621
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Up commercial and it would always start Motor Up and

622
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: a ment car. And so I would just sit there

623
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: and this, this is a solid block of ice. How

624
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: is it still working? This row was has frozen solid.

625
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: I still remember the Motor Up commercial. That was a

626
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: fun trip. And burger king every night, burger king every night. Um.

627
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: That's when I was writing the Winnie the Pooh movie

628
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: for Disney. I wrote the screenplay for that. But no, Jason,

629
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: this is how good a friend Jason was. I called

630
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: him and I said I'm not coming home. Can you

631
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: tell them at Boyny's World that I'm not coming back?

632
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Check? This is this is ninety nine,

633
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: summer of ninety six. Can you just tell them I'm

634
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: just gonna stay here and smoke weed and cigarettes and

635
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: eat Burger King and write scripts. And Jason's like uh huh.

636
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: And something like thirty hours later, there's a knock at

637
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: my door and he's like, okay, Well what I did

638
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: when we don't know Will is I did? I called

639
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Michael and I was like, hey, look, Will wants to

640
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: stay in Amsterdam. But listen, I know it's a horrible loss,

641
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: but I could fill in if you want. I'm available anyway.

642
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: He hung up, and I was like, I guess I

643
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: better go, don't But he didn't know. Do you remember

644
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: what you said to me? Because you you you came

645
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: in and you're like, here's what's going to happen. We're

646
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: gonna stay here, we're gonna hang out for a week

647
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: and have some fun. And then you're getting on the

648
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: plane and you're flying home. And he dragged me back

649
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: from Amsterdam. Yeah, oh man, And I'd still be living there.

650
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: I was just there not long ago, and that is

651
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: now a hotel, that same and that apartment you found writer,

652
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: that's the same phone that you would go out to

653
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: every night. Um was the same one I called Jason from. Yeah,

654
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: so that's near It was next to it a hostel,

655
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: I want to say it was, and and right across

656
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: the street from the Reichs Museum. It was great a spot,

657
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: no wonder you want to stay. You and I have

658
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: done Amsterdam, Paris, London, London? Where else have We've been?

659
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: Kind of all around the world together, Disney World a

660
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: couple of times. Disney World a cool way with the

661
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: old school like Disney Way where you'd get to back

662
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: door the rides and do all that kind of stuff.

663
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: That was really cool. Um do you remember is is

664
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: the what's the one where all the clubs where everybody dances?

665
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: Is that still at Disney World? Paradise Island, Leasure Island

666
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: sadly gone? Oh man? We had some Now we are

667
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: recording this during spooky season and there is a fresh

668
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: revival of hocus Pocus. It is now bigger than it

669
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: has ever been. Did you would you have ever expected that?

670
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: What was filming that like? Um? Well, you know, I

671
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: don't know if you watched the movie, but I that

672
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: wasn't me in the beginning. That was the fabulous and

673
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: talented Seawan Murray. So I I didn't actually do any filming.

674
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: I came in after the fact and I and I

675
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: looped um the cat that he turns into, and then

676
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: for continuity, I got I looped Sean as well. So

677
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: it was it was about three days of work for me.

678
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: I mean I came in like motally done. But yeah,

679
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean I just did. I've been doing these convention

680
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: appearances with Amory Cats and Vanessa Shaw and we just

681
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: have a blast. I haven't seen Omary in thirty years.

682
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: We did a show called Erie Indiana together and uh

683
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: and Vanessa I knew because we both knew Jonathan Brandis

684
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: really got about Erie Indiana. I love that people. People

685
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: are digging it. People are digging it so hard. I

686
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: never I mean like like you guys, I mean, you

687
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: work on a show. I mean you had a good

688
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: long run. But there's a lots of shows that had

689
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: good long runs that aren't as celebrated as hard as

690
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World. So that feeling that you guys have

691
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: right now is I mean, it's it's very similar for

692
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: a goofy movie and hocus focus. It's you don't expect it,

693
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of those wonderful things that that

694
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: we are gifted as in this unforgiving business that you know,

695
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: speaking of, which, what are you doing now? Because I

696
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: know that you've got the Mars Variety Show, which is

697
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: pretty awesome, and you are your life has become a

698
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: lot about music lately. Yeah, I thank you for mentioning that.

699
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: I have a show on YouTube called The Mars Variety Show,

700
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: which celebrates independent musicians and stand up comedians here in Nashville.

701
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: It's inspired by like the Dean Martin Show. I was

702
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: watching a lot of those old variety shows, Dean Martin Show, laughing,

703
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Bert Sugarman's Midnight Special, and uh and I'm like, well, see,

704
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: I could be like a Dean Martin. I like to

705
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: be a host. I have uh you know, I'll feed

706
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: my ego. I can do that and then I can

707
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: share with the rest of the planet. These these artists

708
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: who who will perform for like six people on a

709
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: Wednesday night melt you know, pour their guts out, and

710
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to be seen by a bigger audience.

711
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: So that's what the show is designed for. We have

712
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: three seasons. I have a Halloween special and I'm very

713
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: proud of. Uh. It's silly and stupid and it's it's

714
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: thirty minutes and it's fantastic, called The mars scare Riety Show.

715
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: So I'm still working on that. I might I'm definitely

716
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: gonna do more seasons, probably next year, but still acting,

717
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: doing um uh cartoons and video games and even get

718
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: my on camera career off the ground. Did a couple

719
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: of things uh here and there, and I have a

720
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: movie that uh, very exciting thing that I'm not allowed

721
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: to talk about, but I've been. It is musical based

722
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: and I have to learn, uh to you know, to

723
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: learn some songs and sing and play guitar and all

724
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: that stuff. And I'm very excited for that. Well are

725
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: you on social media? Where can people follow you so

726
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: that when you're ready to talk about that very exciting

727
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: thing people can hear about it. Daniel Fisher will thank

728
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: you for asking. You can find Jason Marsden add Jason

729
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Marsden on Instagram official, Jason Marsden on TikTok, or Jason

730
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: morriston official. I can't remember and I'm on the Twitter

731
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: as well, but I most of my focus is the

732
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: instant family. But TikTok is the thing. Yeah, tell me

733
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: about your TikTok. I want to know what are something?

734
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Do you have like a real popular TikTok? They like,

735
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: what's your most popular TikTok? Yes, so I hear this

736
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: is a weird thing, but I love it. So I

737
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: did this cartoon, the the sequel to The Lion King,

738
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: and my character, his name is Kovu, and he is

739
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: the chosen heir of the throne from scar because you

740
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: have to say chosen because you can't say incests on Disney.

741
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: That basically, you know, if you follow the like mating

742
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: habits of lions, that's pretty much what it was. Anyway,

743
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: shows an air and and he's the smoldering, like dark,

744
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: darker version of Simba. We call him hot topic Simba

745
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: at around the house should have gay j earrings and whatnot.

746
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: And uh and I get so much fan mail uh

747
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: for for that and and and mostly fine young gals

748
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: who come up and saying that, oh man, that that

749
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: that character, that voice. You know, curious steerings happened in

750
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: my youth. So I a TikTok showcasing that and it's

751
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: hit over a million, like in the twenty four hours

752
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: was oh my god. But then I post stuff about

753
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: like watch the Mars Variety show. Nobody cares, you know,

754
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: Goofy movie millions millions? Don't you care about what I want?

755
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: My artistic integrity? Don you make fun of Will in

756
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: the Goofy movie voice? Oh man in it? You know what?

757
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: You know what Goofy and Will have and come? You

758
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: know what? Max? I can't have a com and they're

759
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: both goofy? Will you like power Line? Hey? Will? Maybe

760
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: you want Stoppable should hang out well together. I'll gust

761
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: see power Line with you and Ron stoppabo that Uh yeah?

762
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: Am I? Or is he me? Oh? This is gonna

763
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: be interesting fantastic? Maybe you hook me up with that

764
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: that Kim, she's pretty nice. I already already lied to Roxanne,

765
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: so so tacking up with Kim and has have have

766
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: have Ron Stoppable and Max ever actually met before? I

767
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: think this is an interesting Disney crossover. Yeah you remember

768
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: that one like after party at Club thirty three. That's right?

769
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was there? Oh yeah that was I

770
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: was about to be there that night. I don't don't

771
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: start with me. Don't even start with me. H and

772
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: Disney has just suit us somehow. World is now over all,

773
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: right Jason. Before we finish, I do have is now

774
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: doing the voice of Max good exactly what he's doing

775
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: the voice of everybody. UM, just a quick question for you,

776
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: because we've touched on this in other episodes. Looking back

777
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: at your life because you are a true child actor.

778
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: We're a child actor that has grown up into an

779
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: adult actor. Do you look back at your career as

780
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: a child actor or something positive? Or do you look

781
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: back at your career as a child actor as something

782
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: not so great? Uh? Nothing but positivity. I mean, like

783
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's always ups and downs. You're you're a

784
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: kid in a very adult industry, you know. And uh,

785
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: but I can't trade any experience that I ever had

786
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: because I worked on so many uh intellectual properties that

787
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: I loved, you know. Um, I've had amazing experiences getting

788
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: travel all of the world. UM, established friendships with fine

789
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: folks like you guys. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

790
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love hearing that. And finally, what's your

791
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: favorite project that you've ever worked on? Uh? It's like

792
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: picking your favorite child. It can't pick just one man.

793
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, you know, each show, each project you're

794
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: working on, means something different based on the people you

795
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: work with, based on the experience. It's hard to pick

796
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: picktures one. I'm glad to hear that. What's your least

797
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: favorite project? And why did you hate the actors you

798
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: were working with? No, I'm kidding, you don't have to

799
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: answer that one. To look at his face, UM, I

800
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: did an episode of Will and Grayson. It was not

801
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: my favorite experience at all. I hear Will is nice

802
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: and Grace is nice. But and as a dick, you

803
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: know you were you guys are I don't know if

804
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: you guys ever worked on any other sitcoms after? What

805
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: means really? But you had such a family, um dynamic

806
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: and the same thing on step by step and you're

807
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 1: allowed to try things. And then um, there were certain

808
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: shows I worked on afterwards where there was a shift

809
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: and people were not as welcoming and it's like you say,

810
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: what's on the page or you're out of here, like

811
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: you won't try anything. And I think it was caught

812
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: off guard by that. And I'm I don't know if

813
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: you could tell but I'm a little arrogant sometimes and

814
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. And uh, and that's and I'll

815
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: just say I was supposed to do two episodes. I

816
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: ended up doing just one. It was there's there's being

817
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: with Jason, especially when you're out. First of all, you

818
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna be fearless no matter what's in

819
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: front of him, and you're always wondering, like am I

820
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: going to get into a fight? Like what's gonna happen

821
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: right now? So one of my favorites and jump into

822
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: a pool and that story? Can I tell this story, Jason? Please?

823
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: So I had done a film called I think it

824
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: was called Lady Killers at the time it became gold Diggers.

825
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: It was there was a way it was not good.

826
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: So we were at the Vegas Film Festival for Sina

827
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: Vegas and we were at a big party there the

828
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: night before the festival started, and it was all this

829
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: press and there's hundreds of people around a pool, and

830
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: of course I turned to Jason at one point and

831
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I bet you you won't strip completely

832
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: butt naked and jump into the pool in front of everybody.

833
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I'm not gonna do that. And

834
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: I go, I, you know, I'll give you four hundred bucks,

835
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: and I turn away as like a joke, and by

836
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: the time I turned back, he essentially has his pants off,

837
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, dude, I'm kidding, don't we We're fine,

838
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: don't worry about And he's looking at me the whole time,

839
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: going like wait, what's what's the problem, and butt naked

840
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: packed house jumps in the water. Everybody then is staring

841
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: like looking at him. He gets out, we're laughing and

842
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: and security comes over grab us. We're then in the

843
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: He's like I'm going to have him arrested. Him like whoa, no, no, no,

844
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: we're good. We're good. We're friends with the owner of

845
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: the hotel, which we weren't. But I was like, I'm

846
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: here as a guest guest of the hotel owner, you

847
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: know what was his name again, and I'm a very

848
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: famous actor movie this guy. This guy's like you gotta

849
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: go look at him. Just go into the hotel room

850
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: and keep him there. And then the thing that amazed

851
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: me is you wouldn't even take the cash. I tried

852
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: to give you the four hundred bucks, and you're like,

853
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: now you already had the experience. I'll get I'll get

854
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: naked for free, just ask so funny. And then I

855
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: remember the director of the film coming up to me

856
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: and going, I can't believe you did that. I can't

857
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: believe you did that. I'm like, what, we were just

858
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: having funny goes. No, had I known you were going

859
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: to do that, we would have written the name of

860
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: the film on his ass. Oh my god, nothing. Greg

861
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: took it someone when you all took it. I was

862
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: me getting of getting out of the pool surrounded by security.

863
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: Were you there too? No? No, I just heard about it. Oh.

864
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: To Will's credit, like, yeah, they were. The security was

865
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: pissed because you know, penises are deadly uh minus anyway,

866
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: But but the security was escorting me out and and

867
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: very upset, and Will was like, I got you, ja don't.

868
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: He's following me behind, Like I don't. I'm with you

869
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: the whole way. And then do you remember the big

870
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: head of security came up and he was cracking up.

871
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: He's like, man, what are you doing? What are you thinking?

872
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: What are you thinking? And they were gonna kick me

873
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: out of the hotel, but because we were staying at

874
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: the hotel, they couldn't, so I'm like, I'll just go

875
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: to my room. I won't come back down. Oh, it

876
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: was so much. We've had a number of those, just

877
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: random incidents where again you're fearless. God. I love it.

878
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: I love you. I love you guys. I know you

879
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: gotta go. Thank you so much for for being here

880
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: with us. Thank you for asking me. Are we going

881
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: to see you next year around at the convention circuit? Yes, yes,

882
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: you are great. I'm also I can finally announce here

883
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: on Pod Meets World, which is awesome, that I will

884
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: be joining Jason at Nashville Comic Con on what's June

885
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: three and fourth, I believe fourth and fifth, Saturday Sunday,

886
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: June fourth and fifth. I get to hang out with

887
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: my my boy Jason in Nashville. And I've been a

888
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: horrible friend and have not actually visited him Nashville in

889
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: the years. He's lived there ten years, and the only

890
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: way to get him to come to a con is

891
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: to pay for his flight in a hotel, and I

892
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: would have done that ages ago. But come to Nashville

893
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: to see the two of us together, because he's going

894
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: to show me the town. And you've got to be

895
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: the first time I check it out so you can

896
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: come on a pub crawl with us, as Jason shows

897
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: me everything around there, So that is yes, I don't

898
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: him to get naked. Yes. June fourth and fifth, Jason,

899
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: I bet you have a really good answer to this question,

900
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: so I want to ask it are what are some

901
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: of the roles that you auditioned for that you came

902
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: really close to getting but didn't get good? Well? Uh,

903
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Eric and boy meets World, Right, I read really close.

904
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: I read for Stallone's son and Rocky five, and he

905
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: cast his own son, so it's not like he lost

906
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: out to another actor. Yeah, but I went to the

907
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: director's house like seven times. It was John Abltson, who

908
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: did a karate kid in the first Rocky and um gosh,

909
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: hell he's another one. I actually, I don't know how

910
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: close I got, but I did read for Batman beyond you.

911
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, you're not even the Batman fan on the bed,

912
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: And when he booked it, he didn't even want to

913
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: tell me because he's like, he felt so bad, he

914
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: felt so bad, but he killed But he killed it.

915
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: I can't imagine I would have done any better. No,

916
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: you certainly wouldn't have. Not with that role. I was

917
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: I was meant to I was I was I was

918
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: meant to wear the cow my friend, I think all

919
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: three of us being up for Trojan War and being

920
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: at a party, and it was we were all like

921
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: it was down to like the three of us and

922
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: like maybe five other people or whatever, and we're like,

923
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: you know what, one of us is gonna get it.

924
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: Guys were like gotten a hoddle and we're like one

925
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: of and both of you guys ended up nothing that

926
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: was at the boy Mean's World rat party. Was that

927
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: what it was? I just remember realizing that we had

928
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: all read for this movie, we all wanted it because

929
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: the script was so good, and I thank thankfully I

930
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: I ruined that so we had no problems. I don't

931
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: know why again, and I'm not just saying this, but like,

932
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: I don't know why you don't start more stuff, like

933
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: you clearly carry a picture and you're so wonderful and

934
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: it's very sat thank you, but get whatever you're going on.

935
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: Get over it. It's it's that easy, right, Just get

936
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: over Just get over it. Well that's the other thing.

937
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. If you actually look at IMDb,

938
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: Jason and I have played best friends or played friends

939
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: in like fifty different things. So it's just almost every cartoon,

940
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: every uh film, everything, it's they cast the two of

941
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: us together just because the chemistry is there obviously, So

942
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: I AMDB. Will also tell you that he's doing Sonic

943
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: the Hedgehog three. So everything you see, I leave everything

944
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: you see. I'm telling you you were Chris Pratt and

945
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy if memory serves awesome. Well, thank you,

946
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. I can't wait

947
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: to see you again next year. And you guys can

948
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: go see Will and Jason at the Nashville Comic Con

949
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: June four and get your tickets the minute they become available.

950
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: You're available National comicon dot com right now. There you go.

951
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: Come check us out because I'm going to need people

952
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: to uh so I have a bigger line than Jason

953
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: or else I feel bad about. Oh, you're definitely going

954
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: to want that. Yeah, what we meet Tonky talks, That's

955
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I'm happy with that. I just want

956
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: to go. I can't wait. It's gonna be a ton

957
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: of fun. Thank you for being here, Jason. It was

958
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: great to do Always by Danielle by Phil see you justin,

959
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, is so perfect perfectly Jason. It is

960
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: that the red like director's chair, spot of red curtain sitting.

961
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: He's slightly slightly off center. I just wanted to be

962
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: wearing a turtleneck. That's all he needed, right, would have

963
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: been a nice touch. He's the first guy to admit

964
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: that a lot that he thinks it's his fault. But

965
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: to me, every time I'm with him and every time

966
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: I used to watch him work, that's a guy who

967
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: should have been a superstar in my opinion. That's a

968
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: guy who should have had his own sitcom, his own show.

969
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: Um he and and he's the first one to be like, oh,

970
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: I I shoot myself in the foot all the time.

971
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: But he's so talented and so funny. Uh that It's

972
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: just I was always I was always in aw of

973
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: them every time. But doing like a variety show like

974
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: he is is exactly perfect, you know what I mean?

975
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: Because he like he's he It probably hurt his career

976
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: that he was so Hollywood in the sense that he

977
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: like lives in breeze show business. He's like him, you know,

978
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: he just wants to be the center of attention. He

979
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: was and think in a weird way that could have

980
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: worked against him as an actor. You know, like even

981
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: said it with you when you were up for Eric,

982
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: you came across as more sort of awe shucks, authentic,

983
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, and like he you probably lost that vibe

984
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: pretty early because he's so good and he's so he's

985
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: such a pro. So really like he's an old school,

986
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: polished performer, and like there's less and less need for

987
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: that these days, do you know what I mean? Like, so,

988
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: I definitely think like doing a variety show, doing a

989
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: hosting gig like that is totally his jam. Yeah, he's no,

990
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: he's an entertainer. He's a pure bread entertainer. Where it's

991
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: just he can sing and he can dance, and and

992
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: the thing is when he can't do one of those things,

993
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: he just still throws himself into it. Where I mean,

994
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: you don't see that a lot anymore. There's no kind

995
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, kind of wall flower about it.

996
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know, it's like no, I don't know

997
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: how to do that, but I'm just gonna go do

998
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: it anyway. Um, he was fearless with that stuff. So yeah,

999
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: it was certainly a good role model to look up to.

1000
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: Which was which is great, but oh god, it's I

1001
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: love your dynamic together. I absolutely love watching you two together.

1002
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: I could just like sit back and need some popcorn

1003
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: and it's so funny. Well, my parents call him number four.

1004
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's because he's also one of those

1005
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: people where he'll he'll smack you down when you need to,

1006
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: which is exactly what you need to keep level did

1007
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: in this business. You need somebody to go like, come on,

1008
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: are you kidding me with what you just said? And

1009
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: he was always that guy for me, which was which

1010
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: was so great. So yeah, he kept me grounded and

1011
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: became a just such a brother when I really needed

1012
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: one at the beginning. You know, writer, you and I

1013
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: were always close, but our age differences were so much

1014
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: uh different, started really when we became close, all of

1015
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: us really did. And it was one of those things

1016
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: where Jason Man at a time in my life where

1017
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: I needed a brother, he was there and it was

1018
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: just awesome, um, because my brothers were always there for me,

1019
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: but they were there for me at different parts of

1020
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: the country. Yeah, so I had j right from the

1021
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: time I moved out to l A And thank god,

1022
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: because I would have had a much different life if

1023
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: I didn't, it's wonderful. Well, thank you guys for joining

1024
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: us for this episode of Pod Meats World. Uh, we'll

1025
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: see you next time. You can follow us on Instagram

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1027
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1028
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1029
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,120
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Speaker 1: we're not all right. See you guys next time. Who's

1033
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Speaker 1: going to send us out? Writer? We love you all,

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Speaker 1: pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an I heart podcast

1035
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Speaker 1: produced and hosted by Daniel Fishel Wilford, l and Ryder

1036
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: Strong Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in

1037
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Speaker 1: charge of production, Daniel Romo, producer and editor, Tara sup

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Speaker 1: Box producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and Boy Meets World super

1039
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Speaker 1: fan Easton Allen Our theme songs by Kyle Morton of

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Speaker 1: Typhoon and you can follow us on Instagram at pod

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