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Make sure you check us at Drink Champs 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:48.200 dot com and let's just you know, get into this episode. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:58.400 He's a legendary Queen's rapper, He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.200 What up is d J e FN? Together they drink 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.559 it up with some of the biggest players in music 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.320 and sports. You know what I mean, the most professional, 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.600 unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.720 This is Drinks Chat Radio, where every day is New 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:18.519 Year's Eve. That's right. I want to give me hopefully 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.720 sort of servius boy. What up is dj e f 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:29.239 N And this is the Crazy Wall Radio Slack drink 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.480 Crazy Word Radio. I did it on purpose. I thought 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.520 somebody would say no, but the same thing. So we 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.520 have hands down my favorite o G A person that 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:46.560 every time I call him, he responds he doesn't He's 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.640 never been Hollywood, he's never played this Hollywood game. As 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.280 he was coming here, I told all my friends, I said, listen, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.040 they said, you know I you know what I said, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.400 Ice gonna come, don't low and walk up by Absolutely 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.280 that's exactly who he is. He's been like that ever 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.960 since I ever now him, and he continues to be 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.880 the realest person. I stribe every day to try to 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:15.320 be like this man. When I'm you know, have that 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.240 many years in this game, I would like to be 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.320 like this stop stop it. And if you don't have Twitter, 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.680 you should get Twitter just to follow this man at 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:30.679 the final level. He drops the daily game every day 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.400 I'm always watched it. I always respected And in case 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.440 you guys do not know who was in the building 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.200 right now, we got the legendary motherfucking iced tea in 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:46.400 the building. Make something drimp chance, maybe trip chaps. That's 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.960 what sat we down, gread look at our bottles puff 0:03:50.000 --> 0:04:01.640 looking bad? You know, was bad that? But this is 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.880 that's one of the first questions I have. It is 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:09.160 because most people as have the experience, have the years 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.080 and have the game with that light go what happened 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:21.200 to the life going on? There? Going on? O G 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:22.960 s in the game that has been in the game 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.239 as long as you have are not social media savvy. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.640 They're not on Instagram, they're not on Twitter, they're not 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.800 on these uh ways that their fans could actually hit you. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.680 Why did you feel that you embrace social media? In 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.800 my opinion, well, you know when I when I when 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.520 I first started, we used to have a fan clubs, 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.000 you know, and people would write in and then we 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.440 would send them back stuff. And I had my homie 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.240 Shanny Sean ran the fan club, and it was very 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.000 important to get my fans on board and to make 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.840 them feel like they was part of whatever whatever my 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.440 movement was. So when I got into it, I looked 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.760 at I wasn't really into face book. I don't have 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:05.440 a face me because I'm I'm I'm too sided with 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.520 the norri one. I like to let people know, but 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.719 I'm very private too, and I know that social media 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.800 is the number one tool of law enforcement. Not that 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.640 I'm breaking the law anymore, but you're just giving giving 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.160 them a fucker so much information about yourself, and all 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.000 the people that watch you on social media aren't necessarily 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.760 your friends. Your enemies could be laying in the right 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.320 there too and pop up on your punk ass wherever 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.560 the fun, you know, so you just like you really 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.840 want to lead lead a nigger up to your front door. Really, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.679 I don't know, you know. So I got into Twitter, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.760 and I liked how fast Twitter was, and I just 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:42.400 got on there and I found the way that I 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.760 could actually talk to my fans and and and some people. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.240 It was a cool feeling. I mean, I block you, though, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.240 if you say anything negative, I block you blocked with 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.719 the quickness I got. I got a zero dumb fun policy. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.320 If you say anything to me that you would normally 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.240 not say to me in the street, even if bad 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.920 joke will getting blocked, Like, I'm like, oh you think 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.360 we that much? Friends? Block? You know now that I learned, 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:11.480 the mute button is better than the block. Mute is 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.840 if somebody, you know, some dumb talking to you, you're 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.000 hitting mute and they don't know they blocked, so they 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.360 keep on talking and they just are talking to know that, 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.800 so they don't they don't get the you know, some 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.000 people they like it. Oh yeah, I got iced t 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.159 to block, like that's some type of badge and dumb 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.720 fuck honor or some bullshit you did. So I just 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.560 mute you and then you thank you still talking to me, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:43.000 but no longer. Let's make some drink. Can learning about Okay, 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.560 So now I want you to take me because um, 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.640 a lot of o G they criticize this era, and 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.040 now that they considered me a o G, I sort 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.200 of criticize this error. But the realist error A lot 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.480 of people say the nineties, But the realist era was 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.920 actually the error that took place before the nineties where 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:03.480 you had the self destruction you had lets the late eighties. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.040 So I want you to describe to me that, like 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.440 what first of all, like U in that same vein, Yes, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.480 but when you first got in the game. What year 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.000 was that I started my my my first record came 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:23.120 out like night, well early eighties, six and six. Yeah, yeah. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.040 My my first single was eighty two, so because you know, 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.280 I was right, yeah yeah, but but I made records 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.600 with Mellie Mail and all that kind of stuff, not 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.120 to my first album. And you know, I believed that 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.720 radio and hip hop steers the bus to what music is. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.720 So at that time the bus was aimed toy groups 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.080 like Public Enemy, Tour care Rest One. So as an artist, 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.120 you knew they were in the studio. You knew Ice 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.440 Cube was over here dropping some ship. You knew Ghetto 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.800 Boys was coming, so you knew you could keep it 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.360 gangst it. But you had to have a political aspect 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.480 to it. You just couldn't be just talking no nonsense. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.840 You had to come and break it down. So when 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.840 you know, okay, Rock Kimson, the student, you know who 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.280 else is out there? You had to bring a bar 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.440 up to that our attempt to attempt to, you know, 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.120 do your best. So there was a degree of difficulty 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:19.000 and agree agree of respect you wanted along with being 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.119 able to have a good record, like I didn't people 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.360 go like yo, man. I didn't want people say yo, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.400 I like your beat. I like niggas to walk up 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.560 to me and say, yo, I thank you, thank you 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.480 for what man. I was. You know, I was going 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.920 up north. I was listening to you played yourself. But 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.079 now let me ask you because I'm um, so you 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.920 came out before n w A. Yes, so you are 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.959 technically the first gangster rapper. Not true. I get the 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:48.400 credit to school e D. Yeah, school because I was 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.920 making my records and stuff, but I wasn't known. And 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.400 I was in the club and I heard uh ps 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:58.760 K and ship came on, you know, and I called 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:00.679 it dust like the music it sound like he was 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:07.400 on Angel Duth Like I been around the dusk world, 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.160 you know, I know what I know what that is. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.720 And I got some homies and stay Dusted and they're 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.880 looking at you, looking at you crazy, like are you 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:25.600 do you like me? Are you about to stab me? Yeah? Yeah? 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.480 So so school e D. So I I researched this 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.560 record and they say, that's p s K, that's Park 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.319 Side Killers, that's that's that's a Philly gang. So he 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.240 was singing about it a game called park Side Killers. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.160 So I was like damn. This is the vibe of 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.760 that song. So when I went in and make six 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.360 in the morning, I kind of used the vibe in 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:55.600 the cadence Welcome to Christmas Morning. All right, okay, all 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.640 right now, all right now, now we're looking like Drake Champs. Sorry. Yeah, 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.360 So so I used the vibe in the cadence of 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.160 PSK to do my first song, which was would he 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.080 say PSK making that green? I say six in at 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:17.199 least at my door? Yeah, I didn't make okay, And 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.440 and then and then Cube said that boys in the hood, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.400 it's part two to six in the morning. So six 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.120 in the morning, police at my door. The boys in 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.520 the hood are always hu you know. So everyone was 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.040 riding that same kind of cadence and that that smooth vibe. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.839 But then I took I took school E D. And 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.360 I made it really graphic. We we had oozes and 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.559 hand garnades. And because I apologize for but what I'm 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.839 trying to say is even school E D like for 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.839 people that no who school E D is. But he 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.800 wasn't like a big figure. So what made you say 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.760 I'm gonna take this chance and stick with it? Because 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.600 you did six in the morning, but you kept going. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.520 But to see the thing of it was like I 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.120 wasn't no rapper like I was. I was in the 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.839 streets for real, for real, and I just happened to 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.439 get a chance to wrap. So I would try to 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.840 wrap like New York rappers and stuff. And my homies 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.199 would be like, yo, niggas say that ship you be 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.160 saying because I used to make gang wraps. I used 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.199 to make raps like let me do a gang rap, 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.319 but like this, uh, let's see uh strolling through the 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.360 city in the middle of the night, niggas on my 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.000 left and niggas on my right yelling cook cook co 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.840 rep every nigger I see. Now, if you're bad enough, 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.199 come funk with me. I've seen another nigga. I say, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.800 crip again. He say, fuck a crip nigga. This is brim. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.959 So we pulled out the Roscoe. Roscoe said, crack, I 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.319 look again. Nigga was shooting back, so we fell to 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.480 the ground, aimed for his head. One more shot. The 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.079 nigga was dead. We walked over to and took his gun, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.400 spitting his face and began to run. So if you 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.640 see another nigga laying dead in the street, in the 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.079 puddle of blood from his head to his feet. I 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.320 hope it's time all you bit. Yes, niggas get hip, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.440 but as fuck a brim nigget this West Side rolling 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:09.480 sixty cup real, that's gangster round. What year was that 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.199 year old? That was in high school? That was a 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:16.439 fourth yea. Yeah. Let me tell you something right now 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:24.679 when you go to l A the most famous gang rollings, Yeah, yes, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.480 he's from sixties, but I'm from I'm from back in 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.760 the day with nel Z and in keyto rock and 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:36.760 yeah yeah yeah yeah John, you know big But anyway, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.200 but I mean see, I'm going to quench h'all. Sol 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:44.400 y'all have sixties hoover Harlem eight trade gangsters. Har Harlem 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.199 is thirties, Harlem is the thirties. So they named that 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.840 for New York. Yes, so the Harlem crips rolling sixties 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.360 eight trade gangsteries, e G G. S uh they didn't 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.600 you have have hoovers, you know? And not. That's basically 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:06.760 that's why I that center of any anyway, So the 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:12.040 gangster rap came from really rapping about gangster ship. So 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.440 my homies was like, yo, they can talk about that ship. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.719 We do. But That's what I'm apologize. But the point 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.319 I'm trying to make is because one us on the 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.959 East Coast, we had only heard like us on the 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.240 East Coast, we weren't publican and fans. We were fans 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.120 of you know, carress One who people we knew, or 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.600 gangs stuff, and they were preaching. So when the West coast, 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.319 the first time we heard the West coast, like you 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.760 made me scared to go to the West Coast, Like 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.679 I was like, what then, I don't want to go 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.959 to breaching. I don't want to go to Yeah, I 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.480 talk where to God? I was like I used to 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.120 listen to yours, Like I don't want to go there, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:55.439 Like whatever. But what made you say that? Because I 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.200 don't want to call the gangster rap just the reality 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.400 rap reality raps at that point because it wasn't and 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.360 it wasn't really reality, because it wasn't everyone's reality. It 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.199 was just my reality. That's what I'm saying. What made 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.719 you say, I'm gonna put this reality wrapp on the 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.319 forefront and the world is gonna gravitate. I had no 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.679 I didn't have no, I just I just I just 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.120 had to wrap for the cats in my neighborhood. Now, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.800 the people in my neighborhood, that's what you got. You 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.360 know you're hitting the stage, they're like, nigga, say are set, nigga? 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.600 Wrap rep one eleven nigga when you up there, Ice 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.120 because you know, then I had like diplomatical immunity because 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.240 I was working with Downy Hunters. I was working with 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.840 the As boys, I was working with athen Park Boys. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.080 I was funing with lots of gangs, so I was. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.440 I came out with the West Coast on my back, 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.640 all the gangs, so I wasn't wearing the color niggas. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.440 Niggas was always like what ices from sixties? Iis from 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:49.600 are whereas iis from Bloodstone Villains because they see me 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.760 over there chasing chicks and back. And then they said 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.120 that Bloods was light skinned and dark skinned people were crips. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.000 That was no, no, no, no, I really really Bloods 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:04.920 Blood are brims. That's the real gang, the real gang. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.560 We're crips and the brims. A crip refers to you 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.240 as because a brim refers to you as blood. Anything 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.800 that's not a crip is a blood. So so so 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.000 everything else like if I'm I'm I'm seven four five 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.600 nine Crip from eight Trade Crip. Everything says Crip at 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.720 the end, Inglewood Family, that's a blood gang. Pirrou that's 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.200 a blood game. They're not Piru bloods. It is Tyrou 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.400 athen Park Boys, that's a blood gang. Than Yeah, if 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:36.360 you're not a crip by default, by default, because that's 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.120 that's what you are. Well, there's there's more crypts and 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:44.880 bloods Cali. Anyway, So back to this rap music. So 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.240 I'm in this I'm in this world right, so I 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.520 have to make a music that those people will relate to. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.040 So without claiming the set, because you'll notice no one 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.520 claimed the set toil after ninety two since you'll after 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.240 the truth. Even Snoop wasn't wearing all that blue. He 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.680 was kind of like it was real, you did so everybody. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.800 I was trying to this kind of like let niggas 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.920 know what you know, Like like I said, we're gonna 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.320 let the niggas know where we're from. Because New York 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.000 was so powerful, we had to say, well, look that's great, 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.160 but this is where we from and we had to 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.840 wrap about our life. And uh, I didn't know I 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.960 was hot until I got a call from uh from 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.200 from San Francisco and the Fillmore West wanted me to 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.160 perform up there in the Bay. And that's not film 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.520 more Slim film more some more West is it is 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:41.000 the arena. NAM like, yeah, you know, I'm going there. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.840 I'm going there. So we're getting I get the call. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:45.320 They asked me, what I do a show up there. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.200 I'm like, I'm not popping in l A like that, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.680 you know, I'm I'm nigga with a record out. And 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:56.520 then San Diego still considered the Bay. That's the Bay, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:01.840 that's a whole another world. But that's not for that's 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:07.360 that's seven hours away. So so I'm like, North, I'm saying, 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:08.920 you're not popping there? Why would you go there? I 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.280 wasn't popping in that l A. Like you know, like 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.040 how many niggas in New York got records out right now? 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.480 But are they popping what I'm saying? So my record 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.399 was out, I wasn't the ship in that l A. 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.479 I was just trying to make it right. But they 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.440 wanted me up there, so I'm like really, They're like, yeah, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.320 this hells, you'll do the show. I sold the show out, 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.639 so they called me back. They go that show sold out. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.960 I'm like, really, so another ways, I was hotter in 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.280 Frisco than I was in my home time. You knew 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.320 what the sold out show meant. That Yeah, they said, 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.360 no more tickets. They said, would you do another show? 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:44.600 They said? They said, I did back and back shows 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.480 and to feel more sold out on one song six 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.480 in the morning, what other the other bullshit I had 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.680 to do? And I was like, Yo, this ship could 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.600 be really big, Like this is real. Now I'm not 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.000 really making no money with this. I'm still in the street. 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.680 I'm making money doing other things and stuff. And you know, 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.320 I'm at that point where you know that dilemma that 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.479 street nigga is running too where they want to get. 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.680 But I always always wanted out of the game. I 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.000 didn't I never I didn't really like it. I just 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.240 did it as a survival. One of the reasons I 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.440 don't drink. Like I'm an orphan. I have no mother, 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.800 I have no father, I have no sisters. I've read 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.600 that you was an orphan. I thought I thought that 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.720 was something. So I always felt liquor or weed or 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.320 drug would compromise my position. It would put me in 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.880 a position that if I hit the ground. There's nobody 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.960 to come get me, So I just got to stay 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.000 on my toes. Dig So i'm i'm i'm in, I'm in, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.639 I'm in the water is full of sharks and I 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.840 gotta stay on my toes. You did so, So that's 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.639 one of the reasons. Just the case you are right 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.879 right now, if you want to take a shot of anything, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:56.720 we got your Yeah. Yeah, I've been. I've been, like 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.400 I was a designated driver before there was a term 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.840 for because that's what that's about, the act. So so 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.800 you mean even as a child throwing up in the 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.399 game culture and I remember, I remember there was that, 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.560 and the West Coast was the people who kind of 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.560 introduced us. A lot of people credit routine for that, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.840 but it was the term Sherman had as a as 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.800 a West Coast It's a cigarette the Sherman to put 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.840 the PCP on. So you've never got hig not one, No, 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:29.160 I didn't. I mean I've been contact high because I've 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.760 been in and studios. But when I was younger, this 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.000 one cat I remember, I might have been maybe fifteen 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.000 or younger, and some guy was like, yo, hit the weed, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.240 you know, and I'm like, I want to hit the weed. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.240 So you was a bit If you don't hit the weed. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.760 I said, well, I'm a bitch, make me hit it right. 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.159 You go, why are you tripping? Why are you tripping? Right? 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.080 So now that I he I stood my ground, the 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.280 next person try to get me high? He go, he 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.560 don't get high because if he couldn't make me do it, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.800 no one else why. This became the sober cat and 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.400 the click. Then when I got into the real gangster ship, 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.200 as it got more escalated. Whenever I would walk into 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:08.960 a room and there would be a bunch of people, 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.040 the one person that didn't get high, that was the cat. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.480 I keep my high. You did because I know he 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.359 probably you know, he got that thing on him and 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:21.240 he won. That's his job. You know. If you guys 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.879 have security, you let your security get high. You know, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.000 So do you got to think about it like that. 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:31.800 I don't have security, feel me? So now? Why? Ice? 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:41.280 I always answer me, Baby, that's what I'm here. I'm 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.600 gonna be honest, Ice. I can't wait to highest security 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.399 for why? Like for years? You just be you? Like? 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.800 I mean, I remember one time I was shooting a movie. 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:52.840 I did not know what I was doing. I did 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:54.800 not know what I was doing. I told you to 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.600 come somewhere four thirty. You got there at four o'clock 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:08.240 and you ain't complaining. You stood there Riga like I 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.920 supposed to be here. And niggas that make that type 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.760 of music. We know who is official. I can listen 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:16.800 to you, I can listen to Mob Deep, I can 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.200 listen to different records m OP I love you know. 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.560 If I'm going political, I like that presidents like that. 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.240 I know who and I can I can we through 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.520 the phony niggas to I'm like, how many bricks you sold? 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.280 Nigga your only six team? Like that's not a possibility 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:39.480 that happened? Like that doesn't doesn't that? Like you know 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.280 how many shot? How many? So I kind of like 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:46.680 could I was? I'm a fan, so that that comes 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.240 into play. And then also, like I say, all I 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.920 have is my word, and I'm not see I'm the 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:53.840 kind of person I have people to work for me. 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.600 So if I can't be on point, how do I 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:58.960 expect them to be on the point? So I have 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.360 to I have to set that example. So I don't 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.720 like being late. I like to stand on my world. 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:05.320 I mean, you're gonna show up late to a drive 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:09.960 by and nigga say, we're leaving it. You guys, you 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.560 can't be showing up late. So these numbers are important. 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:15.840 You got to do your numbers. But as a person 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.360 who don't smoke and don't get hig do you take 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.719 life too seriously? Do you take life to a lot 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:23.600 of people who do that? Not at all? I mean, 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.080 I I enjoy life. I see it for where it is. 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.240 I made it this far. I'm I'm I'm just a 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.480 more laid back person. I'm just a cool person. You know, 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:34.960 I'm not. I don't like to brag. I don't talk 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.440 about myself that like in that if you don't ask 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.160 the question, I won't tell you. You know what, people 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:41.639 say that damn you so cool? I'm like, well, how 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.720 are you getting named Ice? Nigga? Like really, you know, 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.440 Ice is everybody wants to be Ice in the hood. 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:48.320 You know, gonna say that's a great name, that's a 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.160 very you know, people like, damn you could be Ice? 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.440 Can you be? You know? So they gave like bitch 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.880 want said, nigger, you got that name. Niggas can't take 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.720 that name from you. You'n you can't take that name 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.000 from me. So you know, can the nigger name. I 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.680 used to be real agg all the time and excited 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.560 and up tightened ship. That doesn't work because you set off, 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:13.600 in my opinion, when when East Coast we had gangster rap, 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.920 but it wasn't It wasn't reality rap. It wasn't you 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.240 guys that mob style. No, Mom's something come up before 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.560 you didn't know, but after it, okay, this is this, 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:30.359 trust me. So you when I think a West Coast 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.399 I wouldn't think a gangster rap. Your name is one 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.760 of the first, if not the first, right and you 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.680 and you you coined that, so did everybody else. Kind 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.880 of gravitated because I believe in w a came out, 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.879 but the word gangster rap wasn't out with me. The 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:49.080 word gangster rap came out, yes, because Cube and Extra 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.160 out of Compton. He says from a gang called niggas 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.280 with attitudes. He didn't say from a group. He said 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:59.440 from a gang. So he represented his click as a gang. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:03.840 And then then the pressed coin gangster rap. They didn't 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.159 have a name until they gave it that name. But 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.840 I was but that's why after they did that, I said, well, 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.440 if it's that's gangster rap, then I'm the oviginal gang. 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.920 You are, So that's when it went backwards. Okay, that's 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.520 now gangs rep Then I'm the old original gangs. You 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.800 flipped everybody's wig at one point. At one point, we're 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:26.280 sitting back and we see this bishop dom, We see 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:32.520 these pimps uping movie. We see ice, this slide full 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:36.040 to the side, magnetic, and the way you did it 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.119 and the way you spoke. We knew that you wasn't front. 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.600 We knew that you were well and how the pimps 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.919 accepted you. But now it was that a life prior 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:50.040 to your gang. The thing of it was, I was 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.040 in the streets hustling, So I didn't sell. I tried 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.280 to sell coke once, but then everybody took the money 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.640 and ran off like I gave I I I gave 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:01.800 it out my friends and they all came back short. 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.040 So so now I wasn't going to do kill my 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.560 friend what I had left. I was just able to 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.600 make the money that I invested back. That's I can't 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.600 do this no more. But then when I was in 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:19.600 every one of them, everyone niggas had stories like I'm like, yo, 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:24.200 How'm I gonna niggas understanding this. You know, you give 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.840 out the dope to your friend and he comes back 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:30.040 with a story not money. I'm like, I can't do 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.120 this because now I'm supposed to force, but I can't, 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.520 my buddy, So I got out of that. I tried. 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:41.920 I tried, I tried. You know, I had some weight, 0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.639 exactly invested my money, but it didn't work like that. 0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:48.639 You know, I was more. We was more basically jewelry 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.399 store Roberts. We was robbing jewelry stores, doing things of 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.600 that nature. But when I was in the Army, I 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.000 got connected to a pimp named Machel, and Machel I 0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.200 used to go hang out at his house and he said, 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:00.800 you cut for this game, ain't Maybe you got them 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:05.080 light eyes, You're not too much turned on bodies? No, no, no, no, 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:11.040 My buddies. My buddy in the army, his girlfriend's sister 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:15.680 was a hull a prostitute. So so when his girlfriend 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.200 an army, oh no, Hawaii's like open season, you know, 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.920 because you have all that military I mean, Hawaiian y'all 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:33.640 was in the army because it was a ranger. So okay. 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:41.680 So so my boy, Spicer, you know, I don't like 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.719 using names because I don't know where these niggas are 0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.879 at this moment. He might be working for IBM. I 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:50.200 might get fired. But my boy Spicer, his girl was 0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.879 was her sister. So it's like, yea, we're gonna go 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.920 to this party this weekend. But but blind we would 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.040 go over there and it was my man Machel's house 0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:00.880 full of holes. So he would look at me be like, YO, says, 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.240 you mean working prostitutes, because you know working girls, prostitutes, 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.639 and they were working on the island of Huai. Who 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:11.320 you've got. You have navy, you have navy, you have 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.040 marines there, and you have army, and and those guys 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:16.800 only have a weekend. They don't have a lot of 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.240 times to create relationship. So and then you have a 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:22.520 lot of tourists there. So you're saying the US government 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.960 since your holes. Well, I'm just saying prostitution is accepted 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.080 in certain places. To keep it everything. It's always been 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.520 in the military. Yeah, it's a lot of it's a 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.399 lot of guys on that island, right, So kind of 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.199 like it was a good place to get your pimpen. 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.000 So I'm over there and homeboy was just like, Yo, 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.840 you cut for this and this that in the third 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:42.359 and I'm like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. But 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.000 I'm in the service. And so then when I got home, 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:48.520 we was we was when we would rob and ship. 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.919 We had girls. We was working plastic like even thing 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.000 it's talking about. They did sliding credit cards. It's an 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.240 old game. That's an old games. Were getting the micro 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.760 film and we were making the credit cards, and we 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.160 had the military, the I D s. We were printing 0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.160 them and ship. We've been doing that ship for years. 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.000 That's nothing new. This new credit card game. Now they 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.720 got a chip. Okay, new game, and you figured that 0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.160 one out. Motherfucker. They got a chip for your punk ass. 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.080 You ain't sliding shipping them. You know how to take 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.240 the credit cards, tacking it. That's all these niggas is 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:19.520 gonna lose their Gucci belts. But anyway, so I'm in that. 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.119 So we we we would always keep females in our 0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.440 click and stuff. So eventually I started reading this Iceberg 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:28.000 slim ship not decide. I wanted to pimp on the bit. 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:29.959 You know. So my girls was trying to run. They 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.000 was trying to They're looking for they was trying to escape. 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.520 I remember, I just want chick named Mary. So I'm trying. 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.160 I'm just trying to, you know, get her out there, 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.000 like let's go get this money and ship like that. 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:39.760 And she ran in one of my partners like I 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.320 just pimping on me. He's pimping like that, and then 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.840 he come to tell me to bit choosing, like she 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.640 ain't choosing. Nigga, you were arrest having for holes trying 0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.920 to get away from this pimping I'm trying to put on. 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:52.960 But I was close enough. I mean, pimping is not 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.160 very difficult to do. All you just need is a 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.120 girl just willing to shit and and hustle. I wasn't 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.520 no big time pimp like uh, you know, bishoping them. 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.080 But you know, I mean every other nigga probably have 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.680 sent the bitch before. I mean, just sending a girl 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.800 to perform the act of prostitution and bring you the money. Okay, 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.720 That's what pimping is, all right. So I dabbled in 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.840 all types of levels of the game, but I was 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.800 no knockdown, drag out pimp with a catalyt. Let me 0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.480 let me tell you some very difficult let me tell 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.840 you something. Let me tell you something. I watched pimp suppose. Now, 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.720 I watched a couple of other movies and for a 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.200 week I thought I was a pimp. I think that's 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:41.360 my wife. This story might get shut down here. Yeah, yeah, 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:45.360 that's my wife. Luck she's But so what happened was, 0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.160 let me get the story out here. Oh I got 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:52.720 some great what happened story? Bishop don't want comes to 0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.920 the hood, laugh, gives me my cup and says, you 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.000 were one of the famous players of the year war. 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.680 So I'm like, I don't know because I get why 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.320 he's giving me the famous player to yeah, boar war, 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.840 But I know I'm not a pimp like I do that. 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:12.640 So girls, you're sleeping high and I walk into this 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.280 club and I said, bits chu, I don't know why 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.400 I said this, and if it saying yeah, I choose 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:22.920 you all the good game, all of them kid of 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.720 me and said you don't know what you're doing, and 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.000 it's it's true, But how does that How does a 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:34.400 person get into pimping? I mean, basically, you gotta find 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.480 a female that's like hose are hose without actually without 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.880 a pimp? You know, every girl knows a girl that 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.960 thinks that they can use that as a method of operating. 0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.120 We used to call the strip club the indoor track, 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.320 you know what I'm saying. So it's it's like they're 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:55.280 not actually prostitutes, but they're working inside of an element. 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:59.000 But it's still any time you're actually given somebody some 0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:05.440 type of sexual um for money that you don't like them, 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.960 you're prostituting yourself. Even a woman who's going out to 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:11.760 dinner with a guy for a pair of shoes and 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.560 stuff like that, she's actually prostituting herself. Even in this business, 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.280 sometimes they asked us to do ship, not that even sexually, 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:19.800 and you would like, damn, man, I feel like I'm 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.360 I'm giving up myself for the money, you understand. But 0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.920 I mean, I mean, how do you get into any game? 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.560 You know, you you you desire it, you want it, 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.640 and then you got to find willing participants, you know. 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.160 So I had these girls that were thieves and stuff, 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.640 and I was trying to turn them out into being hosed, 0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.479 but they was like they were resisting. And ship, I mean, 0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.120 I had I had some crazy story. I took one story. 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.640 I told him one of the movies was me and 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:51.080 my partner Gary Barnette. We uh, we knocked and bra. 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.120 So they was hose from up north and stuff. So 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.360 we got on our ship. We and their pimp when 0:31:55.360 --> 0:32:00.360 you say area, but these bitches was real prostitute, right, 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.560 so we want to be pimps. We're trying to get 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:09.040 out and well we figured that out, so we put yeah. 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.440 So we sent the broad so we like Gary tent 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.760 To brought to the casino. He riding behind her in 0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.640 the car, trying to watch the bitch, and the dude 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.000 in the car sees it, starts whipping. The bitch asks 0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.440 like you gotta nigga following me throughout the out the 0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.920 motherfucking car. She getting the car, like Nigga, how long 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.360 have you been doing this? Like like I don't know. 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.680 So that night they get back to the hotel, Nigga's 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:32.520 go to sleep. They wake up the next day stole 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:36.640 his car. See the holes. The hose was smarter than 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.120 the players in that situation. So Pip is difficult, and 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.640 and I don't like a lot of stuff that I've 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.600 been through in my life. I don't promote it has 0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.760 something to do. I just say it was something that 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.200 I've been through. I'm not able to promote anything all 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.360 all crime and all hustles are negative at the base 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.120 of them, you know. But you know, at the moment 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.800 you ever see Fargo, why quote that line? It seemed 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.960 like the right thing to do at the time. You know, 0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:10.120 in my circumstances. What was around me, drug dealers, killers, gangsters. 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.680 I thought, well, ship, since I'm flying, I got long here, 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.120 maybe I should be working with these girls. But I 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.400 didn't make no fortune off of that. I made most 0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.920 of my money robing jury stores. That was some noise 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:27.320 of Robin Jewry stories. That's what we did. An occasional 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.120 bank but that's what that's what my click, occasional bang. 0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:38.560 We're gonna get to the bank stories. Hey, Drink Chances Army, 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.440 make sure you let your friends and family know which 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.880 podcast you're listening to by hashtagging tripod. That's hashtag t 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.720 r Y p o D. Let them know you listen 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.920 to Drink Champs and whatever else you're listening to out there. 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.160 Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:58.800 TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:03.320 it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:09.640 Radio with Rapper and r N. And now I heard 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.439 a story. Oh you and ben Zeno having conflict. Yeah, 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.920 ben Zeno actually being on the West coast, and ben 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.600 Zino has described it as you having two hundred different 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.360 gang members with you. He said you could have actually 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.279 killed him there. Yeah, and you walked over now he 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.800 walked over to you. The thing of it is is 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.200 killing people is not that simple. I mean, do you 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.320 carry that with you foreverage? So you can't just you 0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.680 know a lot of times, you know what was the beef, 0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:41.080 even people dispatching, and you just choose not to do 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:42.719 you want to sleep with that on your head. That's 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.799 not my thing. You know, I'll protect myself and I'm 0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.759 not I'm not gonna attack a person. So, um, what 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.840 happened was back during the cop killer days. We've had 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.040 cop killer songs, correct, But we were both far Warner Brothers. 0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.120 But he was with a group called Mark Almighty Hour 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.440 or so. So what happened was when I pulled out 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.239 for Warner Brothers because the president was after me, and 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.800 ship got hot. Night ended up pomping pulling the source 0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.680 magazine came down said Ice as a coward. He gave 0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.319 in I'm like, how my coward to President Night States 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.600 is after me? This is real ship. Wait wait wait, wait, wait, 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:22.560 time on what you just said. So you just said 0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.040 you just said the cop Color record. Yeah, got hot. 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:31.279 And then and then the president what was the bus 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:36.600 son of a bush? Was the son of a bush? Bush? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.160 The bush was on my ass and so was dan 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.200 Quail And they said they said they was after me. 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:48.200 They was like, yeah, they wanted my head, they wanted 0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.080 Ali North, wanted to try me for sedition, which is 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.560 punishable by death. They was on my bumper. Yeah, they 0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:57.680 was on my bumper for this song. Cock Colors was 0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.480 a major situation. So you know, we pulled the record 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:06.399 off of Warner and all the rapping niggas had something 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.920 to say about it, like, oh you know giving in now. 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.399 Chuck Dee to this ground said, look, if y'all ain't 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.960 in the war, you shouldn't comment on the battles. You 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.440 don't know what's going on. This ship is real. Real 0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.680 secret service pulled my daughter out of school and chaster 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.799 was I connected to paramilitary Oregan? They wanted to see 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.160 if I was really a threat. See this is Nori. 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.719 This is the problem. When the president says your name, 0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:34.000 the deepest background check of your life happens instantly. They 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.360 know everything from your shoe side to your mother's blood type. 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.719 Why because this next question could be what do we 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.040 know about him? They can't be he's a rapper, like 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:45.800 this is this, this is this, this is this, this 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.400 is It happens instantly, so when that happens to you, 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:52.200 you feel it. To long story short, I'm going through 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.480 this bullshit. So Rso ben Zeno and them come out 0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.720 and make some statement. Your iced teas a sucker because 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.880 he pulled and because he pulled that call, you mean 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:07.959 pulled the record cop Killer was on on the first 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.960 Body Count album. I pulled cop Killer off and put 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.759 a record called Freedom of Speech. I did it because 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.920 I didn't want them to pigeonhole me. And in my 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.640 career right there, I got a lot of other ship. 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.520 I need to say. It's not just about this one song. 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.680 They were trying to take a nigga out New jack 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:29.640 City too, didn't happen because of that record. When I 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.080 said it was on my ship, it was it was 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:37.719 like you say, it was bigger than rap So Bengino 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.880 or whoever whatever spokesperson made this comment, Well you know 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.439 I was. I was. I was under siege. At that point, 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.400 I didn't need no rap niggas popping off like oh 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.040 this nigg is that in the third I'm like, you 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.520 don't really even know what's going on, right, So of 0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.719 course nigg is in my circle. We knew who our 0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:00.200 enemies were. We always keep nigga's abreast, so who was 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.920 out there? So they popped up on our charts like okay, 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:04.759 these niggas are And so I was popping off about 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.160 ice who woo this niggas popped you know, we know 0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.920 who's you know, who may not be a friend. So 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.560 we were at an event and uh, there they were 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.200 and there I was, and niggas seen him before me. 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:23.640 Nigga's like, yo, ain't that them niggas? And uh, I 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:28.000 won't pre internet? Yeah, and I he saw two hundred niggas. 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:29.759 I man, I don't know how many niggas I had, 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.160 but I was. I had the whole West coast with me, 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.279 you know what I'm saying. I had the whole West 0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.400 coast with me. So I just walked up on him. 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.640 I'm like, yo, man, whatever you niggas think I said 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.799 it did is all this Rob roys uncalled for. Man, 0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:44.479 I did what I had to do and it didn't 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.600 affect y'all. Just all it is. Yeah, well and they 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.839 kind of like renigged. Yeah, we was mad, we was hard. 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.960 It was an interview. There was really no beef. It 0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.480 was just a missing said. It was a miscommunicated how 0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.680 to speak, and that's what real men do. That's what 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.960 real men do. So you know that was it. But 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.160 I want you to describe this cop Killer record because 0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.600 you single handedly made the world pay attention to wrap 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:17.359 by this cop Killer record. Now, it wasn't now now 0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.560 it's a record that these young brothers would love to praise. 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.680 But what made what? What? What? What? What made you 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.840 even think about make a great question record. We were 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.279 in the studio making you know, body count, and uh, 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.400 I was singing a song by a group called the 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:38.160 Talking Heads called Psycho Killer. You go psycho Killers succeed. 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.320 So I'm singing that and my drummer, beat Master v 0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.480 rest In Peace goes, we need a cop killer right now? 0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:51.800 What you ain't had no beef for police? No, we 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:58.000 had police people. This is free Rodney King. You know 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.279 we know what the cops is doing before. Yeah, yeah, 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.920 so my niggas like yo, you know Vickers right there 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:05.759 on the front line. So he's like, yo, man, we 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:07.839 need a cop killer. You know, the cops rolled up 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.920 on such and such, they shot him, they dragged his 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.480 baby moms. You know, this will do lo ship. And 0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.480 so I started thinking about it, and I said, yeah, 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.200 what if somebody snapped and this went on one after 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:23.120 the cops based on police brutality. And that's the hook 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.600 is cop killer is better you than me? Cop killer? 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:31.160 Police brutality. Cop killer. I know your family's grieving, Fuck them, 0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.640 cop killer tonight we get even. And so it's it 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.840 was more about this guy who lost his mind based 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:43.160 around police brutality, which just recently happened. Now people actually 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.320 have started taking off on the cops. It took a 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.560 little while, but I predicted it. I wasn't promoting it. 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.600 I just I was singing the third you know, the 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.200 first person. I become different people in my records. That's 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.399 just part of the art. You know. I could sing. 0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.319 It's like if I was a heroine attic and I've 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.120 never been on it, but I can sing and act 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.480 like it and give you the imagery of it. You 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:13.000 did so, But that scrutiny, it started from the President 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.719 the President said. They started with the Fraternal Order of 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:20.920 Police out of Dallas Austin, Texas. They came after me 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.920 because during this they no, they just said that Warner 0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:28.680 Brothers put out this inflammatory record and they should be 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.840 band and boycotted. And then Chaunton Hesson came out and 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.520 they just went on one. Because of the time, the 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.959 cops were under siege for doing the same ship they're 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.359 doing now. This was back then, so the best way 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.399 to take the heat off them is to attack somebody else. 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.640 So they picked me kind of like the Willie Horton thing. 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.640 They picked me as a target and so they came 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:50.920 down like, dude, I'm sitting at the house, let me 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:56.440 date myself. We were playing Techno Bowl that so I'm 0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.719 playing Techno Bowl and Nigger comes one of my homies like, yo, 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.120 I this is on TV right now. The President it's 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:07.520 talking ship about you. Like what yo really for? Really? 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:12.279 We're like we changed the channel and the President and 0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.759 Ice tick Niggas was like that you ever did one 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:19.520 of the O ships? Like oh, O ship? Like oh, 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:25.120 like we knew this was big, like al Qa and ship. Yeah, 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.440 And and then it just started to happen, you know, 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.040 you could feel him. You know that I got taxotted 0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:33.359 it three times into two year period. Uh, I had 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.200 ice cream trucks sitting in front of my house in 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:39.160 the middle of the winter, you know, because they had 0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.560 to really figure out was I trying to call people 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.400 the arms, which which I wasn't. It was just a record. 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:48.719 It was just a protest song. So you know, I 0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:52.160 lived through that and I found out who my friends were. 0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.200 You know, they don't care about hip hop. Hip Hop 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.759 can back you, but when hip hop back you, hip 0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:00.720 hop is one big nigga. Just it's just one nigga. 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:02.680 I don't give a funk. How many rappers come to 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.560 your aid, that's just one niggad. You need someone outside 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.200 of hip hop the back if you get in trouble, 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:15.360 all the Rapid band together, we are all just one nigga. Now, 0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:20.200 you you need maybe Quincy Jones, you know who's not 0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:28.799 considered a nigga, you know, somebody but yeah, might still 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:35.800 be considered. But no, that's what they'll do when he 0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:37.400 came if he came out and saying that, well, you 0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.040 know he's a rapper, and they'll throw him in there 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:44.359 with the Yeah, you need someone outside, you know, Martin 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.480 Scorsese or someone to coming back with your Tarantino in 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:55.399 the back. He's he went up against the college, someone 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.759 who's unexpected to back you. So anyway, I took the heat, 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.960 and you know, I wrote it out like you know, 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.719 I didn't bring anybody else into it. I didn't say, hey, 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.920 this other rap group, of this rock group. I just 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.480 handled it myself the way I've been. You know, I 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.680 was raised by Jez and I I still adhere to 0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.000 that code. You know, that's your drama. You deal with it, 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.040 you dig So I dealt with it, you know. And 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.080 if it wasn't, because I mean it was, you did 0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:24.360 Uncle Luke, because if you first, then Uncle Luke and 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:31.040 Uncle Luke, then death Row, the death roy n he 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.000 was the first what I'm saying that he dealt with 0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:41.160 right right loose? Yeah, yeah, it was. The president was 0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:46.680 on FBI. FBI was yeah. But then when they drop 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:50.120 death Row with Ted Turner because they were concerned it 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.000 was it was a ripple effect. Dion Warwick was involved 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.759 in all these people. Yeah, and the Lori's tuck up. 0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.239 Let me give you a jewel. Though it's not hip 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.400 hop that they we're afraid of. They were afraid the 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.880 fact that white kids were getting this information. It's like, 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.239 as long as you sing to the hood, no one 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:10.600 really cares because they already say we won, big nigger. 0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.879 But once we express it and they see their little 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.800 daughters just walking around for the police and cock Killer, 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.480 and then now you're infecting the rest of the world, 0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.920 and that's when you become a threat. So that's when 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.680 when they saw me have you know, thousands of white 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.439 kids yelling police with me, they were like, we gotta 0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.960 deal with this cat, right because he's infected. That's why 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.000 one of my alms was called home invasion, because it 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.360 was me saying, you know, we've invaded your kids. You 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:41.040 know we're in there. You gotta respective on cops. And 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:45.960 now that you play one wait wait that Yeah, I've 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:47.960 got going there, Charlie, I got I gotta gotta mention 0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:51.160 it to my manner. Yes, let's say, great interview. Let's 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:58.000 interview that I like good questions. You know you're doing 0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.359 interview in the niggas and you dun't question you alright, 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.040 how long have you been in the NBA? What are 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:09.320 you talking about? So now, The Cop Killer, one of 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:13.480 my favorite records of all time still to this day, 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.600 is created. I still want to create. I actually think 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:17.840 I created this record over but I didn't do it 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:22.000 justice you did it, goes I am. If y'all know 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.520 the record, If you're real hip hop, man, I open 0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.000 another bottom. We already got the bottles open. Come over here, 0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:33.480 come over, you're the bar. But lax, relax, that's right there. 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.920 I want everybody, if you real hip hop, to sing along, 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:41.520 help me sing along. I am a nightmare walking psychopath 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:52.480 talking yo yo from when what was the movie Let 0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.800 me let me right before? Was that was that inspired? 0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.120 Or before the movie? Did you already know? You say? 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.480 Let let me take it to where it was going 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.480 to where I was going. I hadn't heard of California 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.600 at this time. What year it was? Colors? Can you 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:08.480 google it? Has I wanna be that's gonna be like 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:15.000 ninety two? I think you got But I had heard 0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.960 of California. We had, we had, we had, we had. 0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:24.399 You know, we're all off. I'm not visions of California, 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.560 but this is the first time, in my opinion, this 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:35.320 is the original California Love Colors. And when I heard that, 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:40.680 when I sink the movie, I had no idea that 0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.480 was popping off? Right, What the funk was going on 0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:47.880 in the West Coast, oh I used to see was beaches, right, Yeah, 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.000 I had no idea you could get killed in California 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:54.759 until Colors, like I had. I knew about killer, but 0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.920 I was just like, I didn't know what colors were 0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:03.360 before color. Colors was colors before I thought, yea, Colors. 0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:05.920 What happened with Colors was they was doing this movie 0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:10.600 called Colors. Dennis Hopper was directing it, and apparently they 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.160 it was gonna be a Warner Brothers film. And due 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.360 to the fact it was Warner Brothers film, I was 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.439 the first rappers signed to Warner Brothers. So they're gonna, 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:20.799 of course look at my music first. So they had 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.000 they wanted to use a song I did call Squeeze 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.920 the Trigger off my first album, and the movie was 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.800 already done. You got a movie, Stiff, so they got that. 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.360 They got they got this scene with Don Cheeto in it, 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:35.880 you know, Rocket, and he was listening to my songs. 0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.840 So I'm like, well, let me if you want to 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:41.759 if you want to use my song, let me see 0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:46.080 the movie. So I got to see the movie. So 0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.400 I'm looking at the movie, I'm like, Okay, there's some 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.880 wrong ship in it because at the time the Blacks 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:54.000 wasn't fighting the Mexicans. You know, there was some other stuff. 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.160 But I'm like, it still kind of gives you an overall, 0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.200 you know, the most real ship is when you see 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:02.320 the hanking in the county with thirty eight hundred and 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:06.160 the crypts and the bloods across with the fence. Yeah, 0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:08.680 it was powerful, but they never let that main niggas 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:13.640 out at the same time. But s again, there's a 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:15.840 scene where you see them and coming at the crypt 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.319 module and you see the crypt module on one side 0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:23.200 and the Blood module and they're in that year. But no, 0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:25.839 they never let that many people out. And also in jail, 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:28.920 you don't wear all the colors like that, you know, 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.320 so they let them in jail. You're in a uniform 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.839 by this, but they showed it like that to kind 0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.440 of you know. So I'm sitting there so I'm like, 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.040 I'm not gonna critique that out. I'm happy they're making 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.040 a movie now. When they wanted to do the movie, 0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:45.160 first they said let's shoot it in Chicago, and then 0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.759 Dennis Hopperson, let's shot it in l a the people said, 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.640 we have gangs in l A, that it would have 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.000 been about Chicago. Well they did. They wanted to make 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:54.920 a movie about gangs, but they didn't know there were 0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:58.000 games in l A. That year, three hundred and sixty 0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:01.440 kids had died, almost one a day in l A. 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.160 But no one even it wasn't spoken. It's like black 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.000 lives matter, No one talks about us. We're just getting killed. 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:10.680 So so I'm like, okay. So I watched the movie. 0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:13.840 So I said, do they have a title song? And 0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:15.640 they had a song, and if you want to track 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:19.880 the movement, get the color soundtrack. B side last record 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.560 is a song by Rick James called Colors. It's whack. 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.360 It's like Rick James, look at all these colors. You know, 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.759 Rick James out. So I'm like, no, I can't funk. 0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:34.400 So I told Africa Islam, who was produced me at 0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.239 the time, I said, let's make a record. I said, 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.279 I know this gang ship like the back of my hand. 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.279 I mean, let's take him in the brain of a 0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:43.960 gang banger. So at the time I was vibing here's 0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.320 another something you never know. I was vibing off a 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:52.640 King's son's record. Methological mythological meth metholot. Remember he comes 0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:55.480 on when I get ill, it's a reason because it 0:50:55.760 --> 0:51:04.960 duck season. Why I am a nightmare walking psychopath talking's mythlage. 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:11.600 I think, rapp we in, you're influencing each other. You're 0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:14.239 not biting because you never knew. But I'm like, yo, 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.680 I'm coming in like King's son because he said when 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.880 I get ill, it's a reason because it's duck season. 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.080 Hunter of the front of you know, I like that 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:28.320 ship is just came in. I am a nightmare walking psycho. 0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:33.320 Same ship. So I wrote the song, did the video. 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:35.400 It was so big. People thought I was in the 0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:40.120 movie People walking to me, like y'all saw you in college. Yeah, 0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.279 in the movie, And I saw the movie so many times. 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.279 But now that movie, the song might be bigger. That 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:51.640 movie was single handley the introduction to California lifestyle and 0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:54.600 put me in the game. Because all my other records, 0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.680 I was still bubbling. But that was a national hit. 0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.640 I mean that crossed all and that, and everybody wanted 0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:02.880 to see the guy that make colors. So I went 0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.239 out on the Dope Champ tour with Eric B and 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:11.680 rock Him, Douggie Fresh Kumo du Bis Marquee uh and 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:13.600 and I was out there with them. I was the 0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:17.600 only West West Coast crazy performed that song and that 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.759 we shut him down. And you know, it's funny because 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:21.480 Eric b and then was kind of like, you know, 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:23.879 l A Niggers. They had that New York ship going 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.360 and they you know, they had to change and Supreme 0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:33.080 uh Matt Mathematics Great Magnetic was out there from this 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:36.520 sept becomes Brooklyn. So we got we My intel had 0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.719 told me, you know, I've got my own intel. I'm 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.239 like the CIA that like, Okay, he's the one watched him. 0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:45.120 He's a shooter. I don't walk Intore, I don't walk 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:47.879 I know what's going on. So they was like, okay, 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.560 this one's live and it's one right there and he's cool. 0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:52.640 So they was looking at us. They had no idea 0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:55.480 who we were, and we showed up. They were like, oh, 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:59.840 these are l A gang members, Like it's crazy. We 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.359 had all that. We had just the same ship they had, 0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.239 but the West Coast version of it. And when I 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:06.719 hit the scene, I came out and I opened with 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:11.239 Colors on the tour and this ship rocked like I 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:15.800 just came out that the whole stadium, and they and 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.279 all of a sudden caress one started talking to me. 0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:21.480 Everybody on the tour realized that I was pulling my 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.839 mother right out, and we all became close friends when 0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:27.560 I came into our friends today, But they were sized 0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:32.160 me about the gate. No, but did you understand that Colors? 0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:34.719 And in a way like right now, you can look 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:36.520 at you going to the hall im and I'm sure 0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:39.360 because you live in New York for real, right Like, 0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:41.640 you're not a fake guy who just business New York, 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.920 New York Jersey. You're around, You've been around at places 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:48.440 I'll be at. I'm like, dad, Yeah, So did you 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:52.800 ever think that from Colors that New York would be 0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.279 gang banging the way New York is? I still don't 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.920 truly understand it, Like I roll with Tretch a lot, 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.080 right and treach Bloods over and orgy with the bloods. 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:06.000 You know, I can't really get it, totally understand it. 0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:09.560 But one thing I do understand is respect a nigger 0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:21.200 with a gun. You know. You know I'm gonna walk 0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:23.120 up to a nigga said, well, you're a fake gang banger. 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:26.040 You're like, yeah, it's a fake bullet to take this, 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.680 you know, so I don't know, you know, when when 0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:31.080 you're from l A and you hear guys in other 0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.200 cities saying their hoover crips but they've never seen the street, 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.800 or they're you know, you know whatever. You know, they're sixty, 0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:41.520 but they're from Florida. So I'm like, how how is 0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:45.920 that possible? Because sixties is a street and all of 0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:48.320 them thirties and the streets the forties or a street 0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:51.640 h s eighty third Street's usually the hottest street in 0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:54.560 that ten block radius. Is a street that gets named 0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:58.120 like one, eleven and twelve. Oh so so you know, 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:03.040 I learned, but I know how it happened. What happened 0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:06.080 was when the drug trade really hit and it stopped 0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:10.320 coming through Florida, it started to come through Mexico. I 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:16.279 should I even tell this story. Nobody listens to and 0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:19.160 this is old game. But what happened was the coke 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:23.240 became less expensive in California, and as it moved across 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.120 the country, it became instantly like a key with double 0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.320 So everybody in l A was trying to put the 0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:33.160 game on the road. So you got a cousin in Seattle, right, 0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:35.760 So you send a couple of homies up to Seattle 0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:38.920 and you say, Okay, at this point, y'all niggas playboy 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.640 gangster crips because that's where set we from. And these 0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.440 niggas are from Seattle and they don't really know about it. 0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:47.640 But then there's some real and we take these niggas 0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:49.919 and get them khakis and ship like that. Then maybe 0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:51.560 you might send the nigga from l A to put 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.359 some work in. They ain't never seen violence like that before, 0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:56.719 you know, they turned out and they move and wait, 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.759 and this happens all over the country, niggas coming in 0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:02.640 from St. Louis. So there's somebody from l A that 0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:06.000 took that gang out there. Now are they respected in 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:10.080 l A well to an extent? But you can't come. 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.440 I don't care if you're from whatever, Wyoming or whatever. 0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:15.360 And you come to l A and you actually in 0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:18.000 Hoover's Hood and you claiming Hoover, you're gonna bow down 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:22.440 that street, that actual street, the niggas on that block, 0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:27.840 that's the gs. So I I you know, I I 0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.759 I was up in Harlem and I met some bloods, right, 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:33.319 So I was like, they're like, yeah, nigga, I used 0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:35.320 were blood. So I'm like like that. I said, okay, 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.400 like that he said you was a crip right, and 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.200 they're like yeah, it was cool. I'm like, well, you 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.920 ain't cool with me, you know, like if is really banging, right, 0:56:43.120 --> 0:56:45.200 I said, well, gang banging is an act of murder. 0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:48.080 So then they was like they was like, I said, 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.319 somebody ship show me a blood sign. So they did 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:53.680 like this. I was like, turn it upside down. I said, 0:56:53.719 --> 0:57:00.200 that's a blood sign too. They were excited. They were like, yeah, okay, 0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:03.760 so he definitely be I just turned it upside that's 0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:07.880 a blood sign. Like I'm giving him gang tutoring. They 0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:11.399 were like thank you, Like like I was like, man, 0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:15.360 but nobody that comes from that wants it to happen. 0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:19.200 The gang thing happened we were young kids was out 0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.720 there were protect in the neighborhood, and it got taken 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.320 out of control once the drugs came in. Once the 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:27.640 drugs came in, its split into little sets. So now 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:30.800 crypt is fighting crips blood and Nikki's don't care what color. 0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.120 So you're saying back then, crips wasn't fighting Chris because 0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:37.080 it seems like crips always have be for crips. No no, no, 0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:39.560 no no no. If he was a crip, was but 0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:44.040 now it sets. The sets just splinter. They splinter. So say, 0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.440 for instance, we all won crip set and then you 0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:48.960 got the sack and you, like nigga, we the norriy crips. 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:52.760 Now we us for this splinter. That's what happened, he said, 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:54.560 because the price of the drugs went down, like when 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:57.400 Escobar went down and it all started going through Mexico. 0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:03.800 The creed it's creating, it's just greed. It's like, yeah, yeah, 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.240 the trade came to l A, but greed, greed, it's 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:09.800 just you. He's the boss. You start counting his money. 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:11.840 As soon as the A side nigga starts counting the 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.880 boss's money, you have the potential for deceit and you 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:17.360 think it happened. So you always telling me, man, nor 0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:19.680 he's making a little bit too much money. You why 0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:21.560 are you counting the boss's money? Man? Why are you 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.400 worried about what he's making? And eventually you're gonna say, man, 0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:27.760 let's go this way, and that happens. And in any 0:58:27.840 --> 0:58:31.120 type of organism, gang culture, let me ask you a 0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:34.440 question and gang culture. Can there ever be one leader 0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:37.880 or no? Yeah, the leader of each set. I wrote 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:40.760 what the dude named Tony Bogard, who was uh the 0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:44.040 leader of Imperial Courts of the p J. Watts Crips, 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.439 which is a whole project. And I've seen him walk 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:48.960 into a like a wrecked room, a room and hatting. 0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:51.600 I've seen a hunter niggers stand up and like when 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:55.160 he get quiet until he came in and they sat down. 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.640 I'm like, yo, that was a g but they killed him. Wow, 0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:02.200 you know he's on. I mean, you know the thing 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:06.480 about gang membership is thinking about crime period is everyone 0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.720 is a liar, a cheater, a thief, a double ca 0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.840 I mean, you're dealing with a group of bandits. You think, 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:16.120 so anything could happen. You know, you hope there's loyalty 0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:19.000 inside of it, but you're dealing a bunch of murderers. 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:22.640 Everyone is cold blooded, you know, to your your ideas 0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:25.560 to get the funk out of there as soon as possible. 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:27.360 And you know that's why I'm square as a pool 0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:29.480 table twice as green. I wouldn't steal a nickel off 0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:32.880 the mantel peach. I'm not really, I'm not really you know, 0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:35.840 I'm fortunate I lived through it, but it's not what 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.280 I'm about no more. I don't want to live like that. Man. 0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:43.360 That's just crazy. Now, Ice, you survive the aw the 0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:47.080 scrutiny from the Copkiller record. You you you you? You 0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:50.080 pull out the Colors record of Color record, bring you everywhere? 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:54.200 Now where is Ice at? When he hears end Way 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:59.000 the ball release us that when well I knew, you know, 0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.240 I knew end up Way because n w A used 1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.360 to open for me. We used to go out, Yeah 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:08.040 you just said that, mad nonchal lotly and I had 1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:10.760 to be around Colors too as well, you're gonna do cute, 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:14.360 they'll take out n w A. We would all tour together, 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:16.960 would be n w A iced T D O C. 1:00:17.560 --> 1:00:19.600 And then when Easy put out his record, they split 1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:21.640 it and they tried to, you know, do Easy with 1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:24.480 another group and we would all go all over the 1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:26.520 place together. We used to fight together. We used to 1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:28.320 get out there and get it gone because we were 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:31.760 West Coast, you know, Cuban mayor life brothers. I love 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:35.760 Cube like we we're close. I used to um when 1:00:35.840 --> 1:00:38.240 they came out with the police, we was out there wrapping. 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:40.400 We're out there rapping and they hit him in the 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:42.520 head with that. I'm like, oh, ship, but see, I 1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:44.320 always see the first time you heard it was on 1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:47.200 tour though, Yeah, because easy And they were playing it 1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:50.400 before they dropped it, so I heard it on the radio. 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:53.640 I'm like, oh, y'all is about to go there? Because 1:00:53.640 --> 1:00:55.360 I used to say I used to say fun the 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.520 police on my shows, right, so I don't. When I 1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:01.200 would before I would do six in the morning, I 1:01:01.280 --> 1:01:04.280 would go out and I would say, Yo, the police 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:07.400 told me I can't do this song right. And then 1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:09.320 I would like, get the audience pipped up and I 1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:12.040 was like, yo, I say fuck the police, and the 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:14.520 crowd went crazy. So maybe a little light went off 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:17.880 an Easy Heads like I have something right here. But 1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:19.919 I used to say, I say I had an echo. 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:21.680 I said, my name is I iced T. I gotta 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:25.120 rep like a killer killer. No one gets Wilder, no 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:28.600 one gets illa Ella. I don't get high. I don't 1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:32.040 drink Miller Miller. But if your girl's empty, I'm sure 1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:35.120 I can fill it. Filler. I make stupid ass records 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:38.400 because I just don't care. Motherfucker's can't even play my 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:40.960 Ship on the air. But y'all know you like it, 1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:43.400 you say you want more, because every time I leave 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.560 the crib to go to the store, I hear six 1:01:45.680 --> 1:02:00.200 in the mooning police at my door. Four Like I was, 1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:03.560 like I was, I was. I was with them at 1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:06.400 the time, and you know, it was, it was. It 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:09.760 was a movement, and I always knew and to me, honestly, 1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:13.960 n w A I needed in w A because I 1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:18.240 was by myself and the half four more cats rolling. 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.000 Yeah yeah, yeah, we weren't enemy. So it's like, and 1:02:22.120 --> 1:02:24.880 you know, now they would always hit harder than me 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:27.880 because I'm one rapper versus a gang of motherfucker's rapping 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.360 and it sounds better when people are spitting on top 1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:33.280 of each other. But and then they wrote some incredible records. 1:02:33.320 --> 1:02:36.480 Then they had the neighborhood. No no, no, they're from 1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:40.120 different areas. Cubans from a hundred and twentieth Street. I'm 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:43.960 from the forties. And like so I knew dub C. 1:02:44.280 --> 1:02:48.000 Dub C used to be beat box for Clientele, who 1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:51.800 was in the Wrecking Group. So but that's the thing. 1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:55.400 L A is a small tree, like you guys hip hop, Oh, 1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:59.080 here's a big tree. Everything in l A is either 1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:03.040 n w A and who they became, the syndicate, my 1:03:03.240 --> 1:03:06.920 crew and who they became, which included Cypress Hill which 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:10.440 crews ever Last when Crew does pain and in Laddin 1:03:11.680 --> 1:03:14.360 them or a few groups who weren't Delicious Final, which 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:17.520 was Tone Logan Young MC. So if there's beef in 1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:21.600 l A, you can call me Que Snoop, you know, 1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:25.640 and shut it down, because there's only it's everyone that 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:28.680 comes up from under us. So that's why the only 1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:30.520 time there was ever be from the West Coast was 1:03:30.640 --> 1:03:33.280 family feud when they fought and everybody just had to 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:35.840 step back because I'm gonna get between Easy and Que 1:03:35.880 --> 1:03:38.640 when I know, you know, it's a family fuse. So 1:03:38.840 --> 1:03:42.320 when the police came out, did you know exactly what 1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:44.320 they was gonna go through at the night. I had 1:03:44.360 --> 1:03:46.880 no idea because because you were the first, we were 1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:49.480 hardcore wrap though they weren't really fucking with us like that. 1:03:49.600 --> 1:03:51.880 I didn't have no idea that the police would intervene. 1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:54.800 I had no idea they were actually going through the 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:58.760 body counting yet. Yeah, after we were going through cursing ship. 1:03:59.480 --> 1:04:05.400 It's after came out first. Yeah, Yeah, I got my 1:04:05.520 --> 1:04:08.400 history funt a cop killer came off. No, no, no, 1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:11.479 Cop Killer didn't come out to uh body count didn't 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:13.920 come out to the O g out now, So that 1:04:14.080 --> 1:04:17.000 was later. But they did it first and we were 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:20.160 already getting in trouble for cursing. This is how bullshit 1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:25.280 shows at shows. Remember this is the loop thing. And 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:30.360 if you if you curse, we're gonna arrest you. That 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:32.840 was you can't curse. So they would show up at 1:04:32.880 --> 1:04:35.320 the shows and show us that ship, and then what 1:04:35.440 --> 1:04:37.080 we would do is we would do the show and 1:04:37.120 --> 1:04:39.080 the cops would be on the side and they used 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:41.120 to shut the lights off and I would jump off 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:44.680 into the pit and run out the side like so 1:04:44.800 --> 1:04:46.479 we would run from the cops and then we would 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:47.960 get the tour bus and we would get to the 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:52.200 next stage. He really paved the way for us. That's 1:04:52.240 --> 1:04:55.400 just one of the total perspective when the person says 1:04:55.440 --> 1:04:58.680 it like that. Because Luke said it, and I thought 1:04:58.800 --> 1:05:00.960 Luke was being bad. I didn't know who was being 1:05:01.000 --> 1:05:03.080 bad for cursing. I thought it was being bad for 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:08.840 being vulgar. Cursing in the Bible belt when you're down there. 1:05:09.320 --> 1:05:12.880 That's yeah, they were UNTI that they would show up 1:05:13.000 --> 1:05:14.960 at the show with a piece of paper that says, 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:18.040 if you curse, we will shut the show. That and 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:21.600 that was my my queue to go harder, like, yo, 1:05:21.800 --> 1:05:23.400 funk that. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna come 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:25.920 out here. And I would always say the police on me, 1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:28.640 and you know that just got the ship even more 1:05:28.800 --> 1:05:32.400 crazy and stuff like that. But but but my whole 1:05:32.520 --> 1:05:36.200 thing was I had already been breaking the law, right 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:39.520 so whatever this charge was was nothing. I was like, 1:05:39.960 --> 1:05:42.919 compared to what I was doing. I'm going to jail 1:05:43.000 --> 1:05:46.360 for talking kids my motherfucking let's go, you know. And 1:05:46.440 --> 1:05:48.600 I had money, and I'm like Luke Bell, I mean, 1:05:48.640 --> 1:05:50.920 i knew it was a petty charge, So I'm like, 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:53.760 you know, so that that was that. We used to 1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:56.080 run from the police a lot weak. I remember we 1:05:56.160 --> 1:05:58.439 had a big gass fight we had. We had lots 1:05:58.480 --> 1:06:00.960 of fights out there on the road. We because when 1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:03.520 we would come to towns, they would they want to 1:06:03.640 --> 1:06:06.400 test you remember the big nigs that yoke Easy come 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:09.520 here Easy, like they wanted to see Easy, like you know, 1:06:09.880 --> 1:06:12.120 so Easy was small, so he wouldn't want to really 1:06:12.200 --> 1:06:14.880 just I'm always like, take me to your leader type nigger. 1:06:15.120 --> 1:06:17.480 I'm six ft tall. I'm like, let's go. We can 1:06:17.520 --> 1:06:19.560 go a couple of rounds. M up in this bitch, 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:24.000 let's go. So I never really felt I had no 1:06:24.080 --> 1:06:26.480 problem with street niggas. When I got to Detroit, I'm like, 1:06:26.560 --> 1:06:28.080 take me to your leader. Let me see who the 1:06:28.160 --> 1:06:32.760 toughest nigg is. I'll befriend him. And I'm good. I'm 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:35.040 not here. I'm here to entertain you anyway. I'm not 1:06:35.160 --> 1:06:37.000 your enemy. I'm not here to sell your drugs to 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:39.760 take it block which which like you need some backstage 1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:42.960 passes and see the ball came up. Now we're good. Yeah, 1:06:42.960 --> 1:06:46.200 we're good. Good, Now I got security. You know. That's 1:06:46.240 --> 1:06:48.560 how I played it everywhere. And it's like quick said, 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:52.880 quick said everywhere. It's like remember the joint if you're smart, 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:54.600 if you know, I mean the same thing you're do 1:06:54.680 --> 1:07:00.120 in prison. Like ship. Just so before we get into that, 1:07:00.440 --> 1:07:02.439 how did I iced t wind up in the army. 1:07:03.280 --> 1:07:05.120 I got in the army because when I was in 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:08.440 high school, I got my girlfriend pregnant. I was I 1:07:09.240 --> 1:07:13.120 just got out of high school, and uh, I graduated early. 1:07:13.360 --> 1:07:16.120 I was a student. I was on the honor roll 1:07:16.520 --> 1:07:19.080 all that ship. I graduated twenty week report card. I 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:21.440 was out. I had all my credits and I started 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:24.200 trade technical college. I wanted to do by I can 1:07:24.280 --> 1:07:26.440 paint cars, I can do all kinds of body and 1:07:26.520 --> 1:07:29.240 fender and all that kind of ship. That was what 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:31.320 I thought I was gonna do, the pixelow Riders. I 1:07:31.440 --> 1:07:33.800 was into cars. I always been in the cars. And 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:35.800 I got my girl pregnant because I didn't really know 1:07:35.880 --> 1:07:37.800 how easy was to get a girl pregnant. You know. 1:07:37.920 --> 1:07:40.400 I was just like a young girl, was not stopped. 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:42.600 I wasn't getting that much pussy up to that point. 1:07:43.600 --> 1:07:46.720 Wasn't know. So I got a pregnant and I was 1:07:46.760 --> 1:07:49.560 like fox, and now I got a baby coming. And 1:07:49.880 --> 1:07:52.760 I'm a small time hustler, you know, doing small bullshit, 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:56.000 you know, stealing car radios, nothing, drugs, didn't coming to 1:07:56.920 --> 1:07:59.440 nothing that nothing had come up that was gonna make 1:07:59.520 --> 1:08:04.680 me rich. And I was also very athletic. I was 1:08:04.760 --> 1:08:07.480 in gymnastics in high school. I was doing you know, 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:12.520 parallel bars, crunch y'all, high scuct Yeah, so I was strong. 1:08:12.760 --> 1:08:15.720 I was very strong. So I I They had an 1:08:15.920 --> 1:08:20.519 enlisting office on crunch yall, and I just walked in 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:21.800 there and I was like, you know, I got to 1:08:21.840 --> 1:08:23.360 get out of the game because I got a kid. 1:08:23.920 --> 1:08:26.439 And so I went in there and I just basically 1:08:26.600 --> 1:08:29.160 was picking uniforms. I was like, well, what's that, nigga, 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:32.400 that's infantry. You get twenty five hundred dollar bonus. I'm like, 1:08:32.520 --> 1:08:36.200 word okay. And he said that red beret, that's airborne, 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:39.439 you get another hundred. I was like, but I can't 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:42.360 come home in the Red Bay. You didn't I couldn't 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:44.320 wear no red I was like yo. So then I 1:08:44.400 --> 1:08:46.360 said the next one was the black bearret, which was 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:49.560 the Rangers. I like that because I was like the 1:08:49.640 --> 1:08:52.200 Black Panthers, right, and then the next one was Special 1:08:52.280 --> 1:08:55.120 Forces to Green Bret. But that was fifty two weeks 1:08:55.160 --> 1:08:57.920 of basic or a I T. So he was about 1:08:57.920 --> 1:08:59.840 to join the army and they tried to offer you 1:09:00.000 --> 1:09:07.840 ahead to when I when I went in here, when well, 1:09:07.840 --> 1:09:10.800 when I went in there, I was picking uniforms. I 1:09:10.920 --> 1:09:12.760 just was like, what am I gonna look like? And 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:16.720 then it's like, well, this is regular infantry, this this, 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:23.200 uh this right here. If you go you know, airborne, 1:09:23.240 --> 1:09:25.240 you get to wear a red beret. And I was like, 1:09:25.320 --> 1:09:27.439 I can't come home the Red beret. You did what 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:31.439 I'm saying. I was like, I can't come to my neighborhood. Okay, yeah, 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:33.040 so that's what it was. So then I had a 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:35.839 black beret and Green beret, so I picked the black beret. 1:09:36.360 --> 1:09:38.680 And uh, basically, it's just a bunch of train and 1:09:38.760 --> 1:09:40.880 bunch of athletic ship. If you long as you have 1:09:41.080 --> 1:09:43.840 a good cardio, you could do it, you know, but 1:09:43.960 --> 1:09:45.880 you just gotta be disciplined. You gotta get used to 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:48.360 people yelling in your face and kind of humble. Rangers 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:52.920 is kind of tough. Yeah, yeah, well, you know, if 1:09:52.920 --> 1:09:54.960 he was an armed you know, it's specimental ship. They're 1:09:54.960 --> 1:09:56.600 gonna yell at you. They're gonna try to funk you 1:09:56.720 --> 1:09:58.840 up mentally. But then you gotta, you know, you deal 1:09:58.880 --> 1:10:02.920 with how did you how did how did you did 1:10:03.000 --> 1:10:09.000 you do? Accept the discipline they so you know the 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:12.240 you know, like in that movie Officer and a gentleman 1:10:12.320 --> 1:10:14.080 with a man said, why are you here? He says, 1:10:14.080 --> 1:10:16.479 I ain't got nowhere else to go. That's the only 1:10:16.520 --> 1:10:18.280 way you're gonna make it through that training. And you 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:20.800 have to believe you have no options. You can't. It's 1:10:20.800 --> 1:10:22.880 not something you just say, I just think I wanted you. 1:10:23.520 --> 1:10:26.160 You gotta be like, what if my other option? I 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:29.560 gotta do this, and so, you know, the training was 1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:32.840 exciting to me, and the athletic part was exciting to me. 1:10:33.200 --> 1:10:35.840 The discipline stuff, I realized they was trying to mind 1:10:35.920 --> 1:10:38.680 for me. So I've worked against that and I just 1:10:38.880 --> 1:10:43.160 knocked it out. But you know, somebody cool, It's just 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:45.040 some Do you feel that any of those skills you 1:10:45.160 --> 1:10:51.880 learned in the military helped you when I started robbing banks? Yeah? 1:10:52.000 --> 1:10:57.599 When I started up? Yeah, yeah, Well when I came 1:10:57.680 --> 1:11:03.160 home the tussle water from my there from the service, 1:11:03.520 --> 1:11:05.679 because I went to the Service right out of high school. 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:08.160 Service and country. Did you started robbing country? Well, it 1:11:08.320 --> 1:11:15.439 was my country driving. Hello, Yo, you're live on the 1:11:15.520 --> 1:11:21.519 podcast with Iced Tea. It's cop. Yeah, what's up? What's up? 1:11:21.600 --> 1:11:27.439 Component I asked about you? Yeah, I told him. Hey, listen, Hey, listen, listen, listen. Hello, 1:11:27.439 --> 1:11:29.320 Are you're gonna be around? I'm gonna be here. This 1:11:29.439 --> 1:11:32.479 conversation might go all night, you know. Well, they're going in. 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:36.720 We're just getting halfway at the halfway point. Baby, Well, 1:11:36.760 --> 1:11:40.800 were you at man? Hey, I'm closed, I'm not far. 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:46.160 I'm not far he knows his birthday, Happy birthday, every 1:11:46.280 --> 1:11:53.360 celebration birthday. All right here, I'll leave you going for 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:56.000 this this interview, yse team, we'll hit you back a 1:11:56.240 --> 1:12:03.320 yel with the you you a one off. That's funny. 1:12:03.360 --> 1:12:07.120 Wh niggas be on the talking on the phone and 1:12:07.160 --> 1:12:09.840 maybe with our kids. I don't know. Said talk that 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:13.880 ship way better than you. Hear what I said. When 1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:15.840 niggas be on the phone and maybe wi our kids 1:12:15.880 --> 1:12:18.280 out of I take the fence, talk that ship way better. 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:21.840 Better they break that ship down. Say it's better talk 1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:24.800 regular if you're not doing that much because the fence. 1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:27.560 But whatever, Oh my god, oh my god, hold on, 1:12:28.520 --> 1:12:31.479 that was the yem. That was the straight fucker. Just now, 1:12:32.280 --> 1:12:36.360 that's not good, Chap. I didn't I thought, I thought. 1:12:36.479 --> 1:12:38.240 I thought you helped me out. I think my print 1:12:38.960 --> 1:12:43.000 that both for no reason. So what we were talking about, 1:12:43.000 --> 1:12:47.520 I'm sorry, talking about robbing ship the bank robbers at 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:55.439 my bank robbery this two ways the bank after trying 1:12:55.479 --> 1:12:57.240 to do it right. Come just so you know, I 1:12:57.360 --> 1:13:02.559 t we praised foul niggers and allay the drink. All right, yourself, 1:13:02.680 --> 1:13:06.560 you're like the foul nigger president. You got out of 1:13:06.600 --> 1:13:14.360 the harmy to do the right thing. But now when 1:13:14.360 --> 1:13:16.519 I got home. When I when I left, my my 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:20.360 niggas was small time criminals. When I came home, they 1:13:20.439 --> 1:13:23.000 had elevated their games. So I'm like, so what are 1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:25.320 y'all doing? They said, we robbed jewelry stores, were getting 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:28.000 check cash from boots, We're getting credit unions, you know, 1:13:28.240 --> 1:13:31.240 occasional banks. You know what I'm saying. That's like that 1:13:31.439 --> 1:13:33.439 like the bank. So I was like, so, what what's 1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:36.080 to get down? I do to the fact I had 1:13:36.120 --> 1:13:39.080 all that military training, I was able to up the 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:42.400 game up and I told him, you know, basically any 1:13:42.479 --> 1:13:46.719 operation deals with intelligence. The more you know about the mark, 1:13:47.000 --> 1:13:49.120 the better. So I added that to the game, like 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:52.360 lots of heavy duty case and lots of understanding what 1:13:52.479 --> 1:13:56.800 the alarms and the response times was and stuff. So 1:13:57.200 --> 1:13:59.280 you know, I mean, there's lots of ways of doing it. 1:13:59.439 --> 1:14:02.679 There's there's what's called like what jewelry. There's just basic 1:14:02.760 --> 1:14:05.120 snatch and grab where you just walk in and get 1:14:05.240 --> 1:14:08.519 watch and run. There's basically the bash where you knock 1:14:08.560 --> 1:14:12.200 out the glass and stuff. Then you've got the burglary, 1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:15.439 which is the four or five nine but if you're 1:14:15.479 --> 1:14:17.640 going for the safe. Now, see I could give up 1:14:17.720 --> 1:14:20.760 some game I got. Well, if you want to hit it, 1:14:20.840 --> 1:14:26.280 if I fuck it, it wasn't a burglary. If you're 1:14:26.280 --> 1:14:28.360 gonna rob a jury store, Robert, at the time it 1:14:28.479 --> 1:14:34.960 opens or the time it closes, why why because it's 1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:38.840 safe so right in the morning. So what you wanna 1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:40.720 do is you want to get there right when they 1:14:40.840 --> 1:14:43.559 let pulling the ship out of the safe, right when 1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:49.400 they're pulling that That was when So once when you 1:14:49.479 --> 1:14:51.360 see a jury store at night, when they close that 1:14:51.479 --> 1:14:53.960 door at the last minute, and they started, and if 1:14:54.000 --> 1:14:56.439 you really wanted time and let them lay the plaques up, 1:14:56.560 --> 1:14:59.960 let them get everything out up out of the wind. 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:04.120 Don't let them do it for you so that everything 1:15:04.240 --> 1:15:06.599 is stacked right before it's getting ready going to say, 1:15:06.720 --> 1:15:08.760 that's when you want to hit them. And then you 1:15:09.080 --> 1:15:11.879 know we're not gonna give you the step by step details. 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:14.920 And also bottom line is anything you do, you got 1:15:15.080 --> 1:15:17.360 to do it backwards, so it's not as it's not 1:15:17.479 --> 1:15:20.040 as important. Where the lick is is where you're gonna 1:15:20.200 --> 1:15:22.400 escape too, and that has to be like a maze 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:25.120 of how you're gonna get away. A lot of you 1:15:25.160 --> 1:15:26.640 don't just do it and then say, now where do 1:15:26.760 --> 1:15:30.160 we run this? All that is all thought out one way, 1:15:30.280 --> 1:15:33.120 whether you know we use motorcycles on one way streets, 1:15:33.120 --> 1:15:35.160 I could, I could take a motorcycle. I can hit 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:37.880 the jewelry district over here and put a bike and 1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:41.519 all all I'm gonna do is hit one way streets backwards, right, 1:15:41.640 --> 1:15:44.320 so they can't get But then do they got helicopters 1:15:44.479 --> 1:15:46.400 under the ground, Like if you know the best way 1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:49.800 to get away from a high speed chases take them 1:15:49.840 --> 1:15:54.000 into a parking structure, not out on the street. Of 1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:57.160 parking structure where now the cops gotta stay outside. They 1:15:57.200 --> 1:15:59.080 can only come in one Then you can ditch the 1:15:59.160 --> 1:16:02.200 car and you can go through the steps. And yeah, 1:16:02.439 --> 1:16:05.040 so all this stuff is ship I did for years anyway, 1:16:05.360 --> 1:16:08.760 and and and you're gonna end up getting killed or 1:16:09.040 --> 1:16:12.560 murdered at some point because but yeah, I done it, 1:16:13.240 --> 1:16:23.120 and uh whatever, bankrop bankropt rest anybody. But the thing 1:16:23.160 --> 1:16:24.880 of it is, most of the times just two ways. 1:16:24.880 --> 1:16:27.120 You rabbit bank, you play a note, you play a teller, 1:16:27.280 --> 1:16:29.240 you go for the vault. What you saw in the 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:32.080 heat is a takeover roeri where they would take the 1:16:32.160 --> 1:16:39.600 whole vaull that. That's a lot of exposure. I was. 1:16:39.760 --> 1:16:41.880 I was around cast and went in the vault and 1:16:41.960 --> 1:16:44.400 stuff like that. But you gotta you're gonna be in 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:46.600 there a long time. You know. Most times people just 1:16:46.720 --> 1:16:48.479 walk up and play the note and just get the 1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:52.640 one teller or as you said, a note. How did 1:16:52.680 --> 1:16:54.360 you do the note? You just walk up and you 1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:55.920 just said I got a gun, give me the money, 1:16:55.960 --> 1:16:57.360 and then just hand you the mother for the money. 1:16:57.439 --> 1:16:59.560 That's called playing a note. That's an easy that's the 1:17:00.000 --> 1:17:06.280 these way say it doesn't matter the thing that well, 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:10.080 that's that's that's those are impacts and stuff. They still 1:17:10.080 --> 1:17:13.720 got them. Yeah, I'm yeah, but you know what, at 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:15.920 the end of the day, I feel very uncomfortable talking 1:17:15.920 --> 1:17:22.080 about this stuff. You know, well the thing of it 1:17:22.160 --> 1:17:25.040 is like and also I also like a lot of 1:17:25.160 --> 1:17:28.920 my friends are still incarcerated, so you know, from day 1:17:28.960 --> 1:17:30.519 and they're saying they didn't do it. Yeah I am 1:17:30.600 --> 1:17:32.960 saying we did it. You know that's not good, but 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:38.280 but you know it's it was. It was a time 1:17:38.479 --> 1:17:42.679 and um, you know, uh, when I got that chance 1:17:42.760 --> 1:17:46.120 to wrap I jumped in it. I didn't you know, 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:48.400 because I knew my days was numbered in low digits. 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:51.120 I knew that that wasn't gonna last. When you're hustling 1:17:51.200 --> 1:17:52.640 like that, you make a lot of money, didn't you 1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:54.439 spend it? You make a lot of money, didn't you 1:17:54.520 --> 1:17:56.360 spend it? You know, you're up and down. You those 1:17:56.360 --> 1:17:58.840 are licks, you know, and you make it and you 1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:01.200 spend it, and it wasn't you know. I don't. I 1:18:01.280 --> 1:18:05.120 didn't see a long life like that. So when the 1:18:05.280 --> 1:18:08.519 rapping came along, I was like, damn, you know I 1:18:08.600 --> 1:18:10.439 could do this. And then I tried to rap like 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:12.600 New York and the niggas was like, rap about what 1:18:12.760 --> 1:18:15.519 we do. And then we invent what we call the 1:18:15.600 --> 1:18:19.040 crime ryme Ryan based around that, and I got archives 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:22.559 and archives of that ship. So I started making stories. 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:25.880 And the stories, like I call it faction, So it's 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:31.400 it's factual occurrences put into a fictional scenario. So things 1:18:31.479 --> 1:18:34.080 I'm saying, did that happen? Did that? Yeah? Really that happened, 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:36.880 couldn't And I combine them so the story sounds really 1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:39.880 real because the ship really happened, but just not in 1:18:40.040 --> 1:18:46.680 that particular order. Now does that make any sense? He 1:18:48.000 --> 1:18:50.920 briefly mentioned I think it's we need to talk about 1:18:50.920 --> 1:18:53.360 a bit more rhyme syndicate, which might be one of 1:18:53.439 --> 1:18:56.800 the first cruise of hip hop. Maybe b DP and 1:18:56.960 --> 1:19:00.479 rhyme syndicates ron the same era, and who the members 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:03.559 of nevertheless House of Pain, you know, House of Pain 1:19:03.680 --> 1:19:06.960 ever last, Yes, Um, what happened was, you know, when 1:19:06.960 --> 1:19:09.479 I was trying to when I decided I wanted to rap, 1:19:09.840 --> 1:19:12.120 I had to kind of like leave my crime friends 1:19:12.160 --> 1:19:14.280 a loan and get with these rap niggers, right something, 1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:17.280 with all these different rap people, and I would seem 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:19.240 like I was gonna make it first. So I said 1:19:19.280 --> 1:19:20.920 to homies, I said, if I make it, I'm gonna 1:19:20.920 --> 1:19:24.439 try to help y'all. So I was reading up. I'm 1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:26.600 an avid reader, so I was reading it. You know, 1:19:26.800 --> 1:19:30.240 Lucky Luciano. It started this thing called the Commission, where 1:19:30.439 --> 1:19:33.519 it was a group of groups with one one common goal. 1:19:33.800 --> 1:19:36.639 A syndicate is an organization with a group of groups 1:19:36.680 --> 1:19:39.600 of one common goal. So basically, we're not I'm not 1:19:39.760 --> 1:19:42.640 the boss, you're the boss. You're the boss. You're the 1:19:42.680 --> 1:19:45.880 boss of your own organization network. But we agreed to 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:49.800 sit down and talk before we fight, right, So that's 1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:52.320 what the Syndicate is, so I wasn't I. I just 1:19:52.600 --> 1:19:55.160 brought groups in. It's kind of like the West Coast 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:58.640 Zulu Nation really kind of like. But I knew l 1:19:58.680 --> 1:20:01.240 A wasn't really gonna ride with the Afro century ship. 1:20:01.360 --> 1:20:03.840 There was two gangsters. So I created a term called 1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:08.920 the Syndicate and we had Low Profile was in it, 1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:13.200 which was dubbed c of course when we had when 1:20:13.240 --> 1:20:15.519 we had Muggs. Muggs was in the group called seven 1:20:15.600 --> 1:20:17.920 eight three. At the time he was a DJ and 1:20:18.000 --> 1:20:24.160 of course Everlast, divine styler Donald d Uh from the 1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:28.000 bronx Um where was ever less from where ever Last 1:20:28.040 --> 1:20:30.200 from l A. He was like from the valley and 1:20:30.280 --> 1:20:32.840 he had the hair at the time. Remember when he came. 1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:34.799 He was brought to me by a guy named Balad 1:20:34.880 --> 1:20:38.920 to Sheer and Everlast first sounding like rock Kim when 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:41.240 I heard him, he was rapping. Now new rappers were 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:44.600 wrapping someone else's voice, and I'm like, A right, right, 1:20:44.680 --> 1:20:49.200 you know yeah, And I'm like, you sound dope, but 1:20:49.479 --> 1:20:51.800 you got to use your own voice, you know. And 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:54.439 so once he found his own voice, he started to 1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:56.880 wrapping stuff. But it was just my way of I 1:20:57.000 --> 1:21:00.280 got everlast a record deal. I got Divine Stylar record deal. 1:21:00.479 --> 1:21:02.599 I did a compilation album. It was just a way 1:21:02.640 --> 1:21:05.600 of me trying to help West Coast nigga, you know, 1:21:06.120 --> 1:21:10.240 and and try to create peace versus more which is 1:21:10.320 --> 1:21:24.679 not profitable. Education. Welcome to play a new podcast network 1:21:24.760 --> 1:21:29.280 featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:33.920 and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back 1:21:34.040 --> 1:21:37.600 to drink Champs Radio with rapper and R and d J. 1:21:38.240 --> 1:21:50.160 Then so now New Jack which is New York City Classic, 1:21:50.240 --> 1:21:58.400 but that is so disrespectful hip hop classic man relaxed, 1:21:58.439 --> 1:22:00.519 because that's how that's how much of vision Jack City 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:04.160 leads to me. New Jack Cities not only a New 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:08.360 York class. It's not only a hip hop class. It's 1:22:08.400 --> 1:22:12.400 not only it's a worldwide class cinematic. But I need 1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:16.120 to know you as being the most gangster risk gangster. 1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:19.559 You you you you had the sixties on your back 1:22:19.640 --> 1:22:22.679 when it wasn't cool to say the sixties. You had 1:22:23.040 --> 1:22:25.639 the cript ship on your back when it wasn't cool 1:22:25.720 --> 1:22:27.800 to say the cript ship. You had the gang ship 1:22:27.880 --> 1:22:30.120 on your back when it wasn't cool to say the ship. 1:22:30.600 --> 1:22:34.400 And now you get presented with this role as a 1:22:34.479 --> 1:22:40.760 cop cop it's a joint court New Jack City, and 1:22:40.800 --> 1:22:45.400 they're saying that it's based on this guy was just 1:22:45.600 --> 1:22:48.599 not Nino Brown, because Nino Brown is a fatitition based 1:22:48.640 --> 1:22:52.120 on some cats from Vague from from um New York 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:56.160 City and also somebody from the Bay from Frisco Brothers 1:22:56.280 --> 1:22:59.639 or something like that. I thought my brothers from New York. 1:22:59.680 --> 1:23:05.840 I met the actual guy that said he wasn't told 1:23:05.880 --> 1:23:14.400 me wait wait, wait, okay money Brothers. Yeah, I got that, 1:23:15.320 --> 1:23:22.400 you're right, but how does they even approach you? Okay? 1:23:22.840 --> 1:23:26.759 So what happened with New Jack City was they wanted 1:23:26.800 --> 1:23:29.240 to make this movie and they had they had written 1:23:29.280 --> 1:23:31.040 the movie, and they didn't know who they were going 1:23:31.080 --> 1:23:33.000 to get. And at the time it was just not 1:23:33.200 --> 1:23:36.200 there just wasn't a lot of black actors. Now there's 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:39.240 hundreds of black hackers. But at the time, Wesley Snipes 1:23:39.280 --> 1:23:41.920 had only done Major League. He was you know, he 1:23:42.080 --> 1:23:45.040 loved right, but that was he wasn't a big known actor. 1:23:45.640 --> 1:23:49.960 So Um, George Jackson and Dougman Henry, the the producers, 1:23:50.400 --> 1:23:52.240 they just had a brain from they said, let's just 1:23:52.360 --> 1:23:55.960 take people from pop culture. Ice is selling millions of records. 1:23:56.240 --> 1:23:59.080 He's a little, you know, kind of little pro protest 1:23:59.160 --> 1:24:02.120 pro that Let's get him. Let's get Chris Rock. He's 1:24:02.160 --> 1:24:05.400 the most grimy new solely, this took all the people 1:24:05.439 --> 1:24:07.360 that they knew they were hot and different, and so 1:24:07.520 --> 1:24:09.400 let's make a lot of us never knew who Chris 1:24:09.560 --> 1:24:13.439 Rock was. Let's let's describe. Let's see if they can act. 1:24:13.640 --> 1:24:16.599 So I'm in a club and Mario van people who 1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:19.439 was in the club and us, he says to me, 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:23.680 he heard me and throw it off the roof. All right, 1:24:24.080 --> 1:24:25.800 he said he heard me in the toilet. I was 1:24:25.880 --> 1:24:28.639 talking ship to somebody in the bathroom and the toilet 1:24:29.000 --> 1:24:31.639 I was in the bathroom and I was on my ship. 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:35.160 I was like saying, I say that. I said, yeah, nigger, 1:24:35.960 --> 1:24:38.960 if the motherfucker's could get a microscope and find one 1:24:39.120 --> 1:24:42.080 molecule and me that gave a fun, then they could 1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:44.439 angle me. But they can't angle me because it's not 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:47.240 a molecule there that gives a fuck. So he said, 1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:49.479 whoever said that's gonna be the star in my movie. Right. 1:24:50.200 --> 1:24:52.320 So I was on this on my ice t ship. 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:54.680 So I'm out there and now now I'm parlaying with 1:24:54.800 --> 1:24:57.800 three females talking my bullshit, you know, try and sell 1:24:57.880 --> 1:24:59.519 him a dream. So I'm in the middle of it 1:24:59.840 --> 1:25:02.960 and that he walks over says a ice, would you 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:05.439 like to be in a movie? Something like Hollywood bullshit 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:09.360 like Mario Mario. I'm like, Hollywood bullshit. You just people 1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:14.800 who don't know Mario around people's that was the main cop. Yeah. Yeah, 1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:17.360 and his father was in Sweet Sweet Back, badass song. 1:25:17.479 --> 1:25:20.439 He's achieved Melvin Van Peoples. So he hits me with 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:23.240 this bullshit about being in the movie, something like nigger, 1:25:23.240 --> 1:25:25.240 You're just trying to talk to these girls, like you know, 1:25:25.400 --> 1:25:28.519 so I introduced them to the females. He's like, serious, 1:25:28.560 --> 1:25:30.760 show up at Warner Brothers tomorrow. We got this. So 1:25:30.880 --> 1:25:34.320 we changed numbers and you were already on Warner Brothers 1:25:34.400 --> 1:25:38.040 as a record. La. Everything revolves around Warner Brothers at 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:41.280 the time. So I show up at this thing and 1:25:41.560 --> 1:25:43.519 I look at the script. I'm expecting I'm gonna get 1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:47.200 four or five lines. I read Scotty's part. I'm like, yo, 1:25:47.360 --> 1:25:49.720 this is the whole movie. Soun like really like I'm 1:25:49.720 --> 1:25:53.840 not actors that you can do it like this thinger 1:25:53.960 --> 1:25:58.120 got dreads like I gotta like like and they were like, 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:01.760 and he's a cop. I'm like, yeah, I don't know. 1:26:02.520 --> 1:26:05.200 I don't know. So I got home, I started talking 1:26:05.240 --> 1:26:07.880 to people, you know, I talked to my boys. I'm like, yo, 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:10.280 they want me to play a police in the movie. 1:26:10.400 --> 1:26:17.720 Then what you think? Could I be in the movie? Ye? Yeah, 1:26:18.240 --> 1:26:21.519 nig from jail was calling me. I'm like, yo, yeah, blah, yeah, yeah, 1:26:21.520 --> 1:26:24.000 we sent the package and all that, but yeah, you know, 1:26:24.040 --> 1:26:26.200 I know, even the bows of the devil, I understand that. 1:26:26.360 --> 1:26:28.320 Then they wanted to play the police. Right now, what 1:26:28.400 --> 1:26:31.400 do you feel about that? In the movie? Word? If 1:26:31.439 --> 1:26:33.320 I was out, could I be in the movie? So 1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:35.800 no one was saying no. Everybody was like, nigger, that's 1:26:35.800 --> 1:26:38.439 an opportunity positive. And then then the girls where I 1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:39.960 used to get my hair did? I used to get 1:26:39.960 --> 1:26:41.639 my hair done twice? A wee guy had my ship 1:26:41.760 --> 1:26:43.840 permed up, you know, more wavy than the ships in 1:26:43.880 --> 1:26:46.200 the navy. He knows, you know, we got to keep 1:26:46.200 --> 1:26:48.320 the shop and staking nice up. In this bit. What 1:26:48.400 --> 1:26:51.760 I'm saying, I got our match. A motherfucking woman. She 1:26:51.840 --> 1:26:54.640 can understand what I'm saying. So I'm shot. So I 1:26:54.760 --> 1:26:56.920 was sharp, and the girls at the beauty parlor, they 1:26:57.000 --> 1:26:58.240 was like, no, I'm from the hood. I called the 1:26:58.280 --> 1:27:03.200 beauty parlor. I'm not no fucking salon. It was like 1:27:03.280 --> 1:27:05.760 I said, they wanted me to pill the police. They're like, 1:27:06.120 --> 1:27:08.400 you gotta do it, nigga, because you're gonna be one 1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:09.840 of the real niggas. And when you get over, you 1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:12.040 ain't gonna forget the hood, and you're gonna tell everybody 1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:14.120 what the fuss going on, nigga. And if you don't 1:27:14.160 --> 1:27:16.760 do this movie, don't come back up in this motherfucker right. 1:27:17.120 --> 1:27:19.519 So the sisters sent me out on that mission and 1:27:19.600 --> 1:27:22.519 I did the movie. I was shifting, nervous, But now 1:27:22.600 --> 1:27:25.000 that they know this, this this story took place in 1:27:25.080 --> 1:27:28.240 New York, didn't matter. It was just an opportunity. Opportunity, 1:27:28.520 --> 1:27:30.519 you know, Nory, I believe this man. We come from 1:27:30.560 --> 1:27:35.120 a background with no opportunities, and we always are, you know, 1:27:35.280 --> 1:27:38.080 upset about that. When you get an opportunity and you 1:27:38.160 --> 1:27:41.200 don't take it, then you're a real live sucker. You 1:27:41.280 --> 1:27:43.400 know what I'm saying. You're a real live sucker because 1:27:43.439 --> 1:27:46.360 you're being you're bitching about it, and now you get 1:27:46.439 --> 1:27:48.360 it and you don't take it, and you gotta put 1:27:48.439 --> 1:27:51.040 the jets on when you get that opportunity, because you 1:27:51.080 --> 1:27:55.560 don't get you don't get it. So I got that opportunity, 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:58.040 so we took it. I went and I tried my 1:27:58.120 --> 1:28:00.479 best to do the movie. I was nervous. This is 1:28:00.520 --> 1:28:02.640 at the same time Original Gangster came out. This is 1:28:02.720 --> 1:28:05.439 my biggest album. I was platinum. I was like, yo, 1:28:05.680 --> 1:28:09.000 like IM fuck this all off. But then you're not 1:28:09.120 --> 1:28:11.160 telling me you had a choice between going on to 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:14.280 your album and do new Jackson was on tour at 1:28:14.320 --> 1:28:16.479 the time, but my album was hot, so I I 1:28:16.960 --> 1:28:19.800 knew jack City was can I risk this and then 1:28:20.200 --> 1:28:23.000 up my records? My record is hot? But but now, 1:28:23.080 --> 1:28:24.920 when you got the script, did they tell you the 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:27.519 actors that was attached to it? They didn't. I didn't 1:28:27.560 --> 1:28:32.840 care about and I had a record Original Gangs that 1:28:35.000 --> 1:28:40.160 that was the last and ruined everything I got going 1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:43.840 and what my niggas accept me. I was worried. You know. 1:28:44.400 --> 1:28:47.920 I've always been more concerned with my friends, my close friends, 1:28:48.080 --> 1:28:50.960 whether they're in prison or home. That's been my thermometer 1:28:51.360 --> 1:28:55.960 on what if I'm doing what's right. I gotta keep 1:28:56.040 --> 1:28:59.000 their respect and my my niggas is straight niggas, and 1:28:59.320 --> 1:29:05.200 they loved the order. But I'm telling you, my I 1:29:05.240 --> 1:29:08.160 ain't corny nigga. They told me, Yo, the hustle is 1:29:08.200 --> 1:29:10.519 supposed to get the money by any means, by the 1:29:10.640 --> 1:29:14.840 path of least resistance, and and television has a lot 1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:17.720 less resistance than twenty five life nigga. So you do 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:20.040 the right thing. Get that paper right, stop playing. Do 1:29:20.160 --> 1:29:23.960 your numbers? They so so now I'm where it was 1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:28.400 on New Jackson, New jack City. You were contemplating whether 1:29:28.400 --> 1:29:30.479 I was trying to play, whether to do it. I 1:29:30.640 --> 1:29:33.920 was struggling, But I did the damn movie and it 1:29:34.080 --> 1:29:37.880 was successful, and I was scared. Like they said, we're 1:29:37.880 --> 1:29:39.800 gonna put dreads on you because we want people not 1:29:39.960 --> 1:29:42.400 to just see iced tea. We want them to give 1:29:42.479 --> 1:29:44.960 him a chance for you to be another character if 1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:49.640 they're so familiar with how you throw them off. I 1:29:49.720 --> 1:29:51.680 remember I went to the movies, like after three days 1:29:51.720 --> 1:29:53.680 after came out. I was sitting behind some niggas and 1:29:54.040 --> 1:29:57.320 and I heard him look at with that motherfucker head 1:29:57.400 --> 1:30:01.000 on it look crazy, motherfucker in the movie, you ain't 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:07.040 let people yelling because I'm like, yeah, you get it 1:30:07.080 --> 1:30:10.400 too right. I wanted to get a real response. And 1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:14.000 about about ten minutes into the movie, fifteen minutes I'm 1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:17.400 chasing Chris Rock, They're like, get it, Scotty. They started 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:21.960 calling me Scotty name, and that was what it was like. 1:30:23.520 --> 1:30:26.519 But I was like, I'm pulling this ship, like they're 1:30:26.640 --> 1:30:31.000 rolling with me. Did The movie was a huge success. 1:30:31.600 --> 1:30:35.720 No negativity. Hip hop embraced me and everybody. You know, 1:30:36.040 --> 1:30:38.560 nobody even tripped off the cop thing. That was like, 1:30:38.920 --> 1:30:42.160 you acting, that's the job. And I've been rolling like 1:30:42.280 --> 1:30:46.080 that ever since, you know, like acting. So that was 1:30:46.160 --> 1:30:48.320 your first movie role that you fell in love with. 1:30:48.640 --> 1:30:51.560 On the first movie, I actually got to speak, you know, 1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:54.080 I was. I was in those other movies breaking back 1:30:54.080 --> 1:30:57.400 in the day. I was a feature rap talker. But 1:30:57.479 --> 1:31:00.080 then you then you get the call about to do 1:31:00.160 --> 1:31:08.000 a movie with Denzel Elliot Wilson uh stambul in New York. 1:31:08.560 --> 1:31:10.880 But you get the call that was my next movie, 1:31:11.320 --> 1:31:14.000 the Denzel movie. Yeah, from Joel Silver, one of the 1:31:14.040 --> 1:31:17.040 biggest producers in the history. He does Matrix. What was 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:22.599 the name of this movie, Ricky Sha was with Denzel 1:31:22.640 --> 1:31:28.680 and because because this is the crazy Denzel is not 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:35.200 Denzel's He's dead. He ain't got the zell yet. It 1:31:35.360 --> 1:31:38.280 just didn't. Yeah, and you do this movie, did you 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:42.240 know that this motherfucker is going to be the illest 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:46.360 actor in the world? And didn't? And when did you that? 1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:48.720 I knew he was? I mean to me, Denzel was 1:31:48.960 --> 1:31:51.240 heard Denzel prior to that. But I just knew Denzel 1:31:51.280 --> 1:31:53.240 watching it was the big was the biggest actor I 1:31:53.320 --> 1:31:55.880 ever worked with, you know. I remember I was just 1:31:55.960 --> 1:31:59.400 working with this new people. I'm working with Nelson on that. Denzel, well, 1:31:59.400 --> 1:32:00.880 I knew Jenn so I watched it was I was 1:32:01.000 --> 1:32:05.280 because Wesley wasn't really big. When women were loving Denzel, 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:07.320 that's that was his ship. He was the pill. He's 1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:12.160 like billyde Williams. Yeah, yeah, he was. So when I 1:32:12.240 --> 1:32:15.920 met Denzel, he just he came down to my level. 1:32:16.000 --> 1:32:18.680 He was like, look, man, I've been on television, I 1:32:18.840 --> 1:32:20.639 did this, and I'm just here and we're just getting 1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:22.439 ready to go do this and I rever forget. I 1:32:22.479 --> 1:32:25.040 was in the first scene with him, and uh, you know, 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:27.400 these really good actors they'll laugh and joke and they 1:32:27.479 --> 1:32:29.880 go action and they're bam, they'll hit their character. Method 1:32:29.960 --> 1:32:33.519 acting No, that's not method. Method acting is women at 1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:36.240 their dickheads. Yeah. I was on the upset with a 1:32:36.360 --> 1:32:39.680 method actor and I called him his real name, and 1:32:41.120 --> 1:32:47.679 I'm Joe, like like when it's crazy, they won't person, 1:32:47.840 --> 1:32:50.320 they won't break. They're playing a drug addict. They're gonna 1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:52.200 go out and sleep with real drug addicts and come 1:32:52.280 --> 1:32:59.040 to work dirty and all that bull That acting is lying. 1:33:00.400 --> 1:33:03.640 Acting is line Like if I if I said the 1:33:03.720 --> 1:33:06.040 next person who comes in the door, make him convince 1:33:06.120 --> 1:33:09.559 him you're my manager, that's acting, right. So they said 1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:10.920 where you learn how to act? I'm like, stand in 1:33:11.000 --> 1:33:23.720 front of a josh. I mean, Denzel was talking and 1:33:23.840 --> 1:33:26.000 he was joking and then they said action and then 1:33:26.040 --> 1:33:28.960 they get jumped into character on me and I flopped 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:30.560 my line and they did like this. He was like, 1:33:31.800 --> 1:33:34.120 come on, nice, what's it? And I was like, oh, 1:33:34.680 --> 1:33:37.040 that's how we're getting down, huh. Like he's shown me 1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:39.639 like come on, like we can we joke. I'm gonna 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:41.920 hit my line. That's when I was like, I want 1:33:41.920 --> 1:33:48.280 to learn, just like that on Tom q um the 1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:52.200 But that's when I my first chance learning somebody who 1:33:52.240 --> 1:33:54.360 could you know when actors do that and that Zel. 1:33:55.120 --> 1:33:57.160 It's almost like they're going through their legs with the 1:33:57.240 --> 1:33:59.960 ball they're playing with you. They're like Ida already actually 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:02.200 pam and then hit and then they'll come out of 1:34:02.240 --> 1:34:06.040 and telling other jokes. You're like, WHOA some dope ship 1:34:06.240 --> 1:34:08.000 right there? You know what I'm saying. So I always 1:34:08.040 --> 1:34:10.400 wanted to learn how to act like him, and uh, 1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:14.479 you know that. But Denzel wasn't like he wasn't the 1:34:14.520 --> 1:34:17.000 Oscar Award winning that that two or to a bum 1:34:17.160 --> 1:34:20.360 nigger like me he was. I was like nobody in 1:34:20.439 --> 1:34:23.240 the world. I was a rapper. Like, how the hell 1:34:23.320 --> 1:34:26.840 am I even on screen with Denzel Washington? Really? You know? 1:34:27.280 --> 1:34:31.720 So I'm one of my keys is humility and kick 1:34:31.800 --> 1:34:36.040 y'all out the whole this whole Yeah, that should be 1:34:37.120 --> 1:34:41.439 smoking ship niggas just hitting the wax and relax. I 1:34:41.479 --> 1:34:44.639 got to pay for this, you know. I didn't get 1:34:44.640 --> 1:34:46.920 any money for that, Like New Jack City, I didn't 1:34:46.960 --> 1:34:50.400 get I got won whey six thousand dollars New Jack 1:34:52.120 --> 1:34:57.760 and get roy eighty million, eighty million bucks probably a 1:34:57.800 --> 1:35:00.320 hundred million by now know, no royalties. I got paid 1:35:00.400 --> 1:35:03.880 scale my first movie, And that's just how it goes. 1:35:03.920 --> 1:35:09.599 But that's yeah, nothing, and that's not that's nothing. That's 1:35:09.640 --> 1:35:15.240 just how the game is. But it's what it took 1:35:15.320 --> 1:35:19.000 him to the next level. Yeah, you can't. How do 1:35:19.080 --> 1:35:21.840 you negotiate? You have no leverage. Who are you that 1:35:22.000 --> 1:35:24.479 get another nigger? They get motherfucking a kick That put 1:35:24.600 --> 1:35:26.640 Chuck in a fucking wig. I know he was in 1:35:26.680 --> 1:35:30.080 there and there rapping. You know, I knew everybody knew 1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:35.920 I that replace you. So so so after that, when 1:35:35.960 --> 1:35:38.720 I went to go see Joe Silver, I thought's gonna 1:35:38.760 --> 1:35:41.760 get paid. So I walked there, I'm like, yeah, well, 1:35:41.880 --> 1:35:44.080 you know, the last movie, you know made a lot 1:35:44.120 --> 1:35:45.400 of money. You know what I'm saying. I know I'm 1:35:45.400 --> 1:35:48.680 about to get paid. Now he goes iced tea, You've 1:35:48.720 --> 1:35:53.479 done one movie. Stuck it to me again. So that 1:35:53.720 --> 1:35:59.560 movie I got like forty eight for less work. I 1:35:59.600 --> 1:36:02.519 didn't get any money in movies until I did TANKERL 1:36:02.560 --> 1:36:06.439 While I played the Kangaroo, I didn't even hear a tanker. 1:36:06.960 --> 1:36:10.519 What is this movie? A movie called tank Girl with 1:36:10.640 --> 1:36:14.639 Lori Petty and I played U. I played listen I'm 1:36:14.680 --> 1:36:18.639 doing I'm I'm making a movie with Keiana Reeves called 1:36:18.960 --> 1:36:21.599 Johnny Neumannic. Come in Canada. So I get a call 1:36:21.720 --> 1:36:25.240 from my manager said, will you play a stripper in Arizona? 1:36:25.720 --> 1:36:28.439 I said, you motherfucking right, I'll play a stripper in Arizona. 1:36:28.560 --> 1:36:30.640 So that night I did like two thousand set ups. 1:36:30.720 --> 1:36:35.519 I'm like, I'm gonna be right to get my sex 1:36:35.600 --> 1:36:38.080 sing going. So the next day they sent me a 1:36:38.160 --> 1:36:41.800 picture of this kangaroo and it was like, uh, I 1:36:41.920 --> 1:36:44.120 was like, what am I stripper as a kangaroo? They 1:36:44.200 --> 1:36:48.479 don't know you're a ripper. Not a ripper. A ripper 1:36:48.560 --> 1:36:51.200 is a mutated person. I'm like, what's the of the movie? 1:36:51.240 --> 1:36:54.479 That's the movie's Tanker? That she sounds so generic. I 1:36:54.640 --> 1:36:57.320 was like, yo, am I not with Kiana Reeves? Didn't 1:36:57.360 --> 1:36:59.040 need it? I mean, what the fund is going on? 1:36:59.479 --> 1:37:01.360 And they told me how much money I was getting. 1:37:01.680 --> 1:37:06.760 I was like, I've learned the bunnyhop. Now that was 1:37:11.160 --> 1:37:19.800 my first I gotta I gotta nion dollars and you 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:25.160 ain't never seen it. I was like, oh yeah, if 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:30.439 you google you tanker right now, I look crazy right hit. 1:37:31.080 --> 1:37:33.960 It's like it's like a mutated because he called a 1:37:34.080 --> 1:37:40.000 mutated person, it's like si, yeah, like a fight over 1:37:40.160 --> 1:37:43.680 water and tank Girl iced tea. You're gonna see a 1:37:43.720 --> 1:37:48.680 picture of me. Okay, So while we plug up, I 1:37:48.760 --> 1:37:52.200 want to respect my brother, Charlie. Charlie's brother for twenty years, 1:37:52.479 --> 1:37:54.640 and he dove right into you. Look at this, Look 1:37:54.680 --> 1:37:57.760 at this picture. Just come, we're gonna see that's me. 1:38:00.479 --> 1:38:04.679 You got a million for that. Yeah, twenty two days, 1:38:05.040 --> 1:38:07.760 twenty two days in that ship? That cr is that? No, 1:38:07.920 --> 1:38:12.320 that's that's Stan. That's Stan Winston. That's five piece applications. 1:38:14.000 --> 1:38:17.680 That's all same. That's crazy. You gotta put it on 1:38:17.720 --> 1:38:25.160 the cameras movie got so now, yeah that was Tanker. 1:38:25.320 --> 1:38:26.960 So that was you know, and and the thing of 1:38:27.000 --> 1:38:28.640 it was And now I'm at this point where I'm 1:38:28.680 --> 1:38:31.400 just taking jobs and I'm rolling with it and they're 1:38:31.439 --> 1:38:33.439 coming in so I'm like, shoot, you know, I'm trying 1:38:33.439 --> 1:38:36.360 to make money. Now, fine, so now you consider the act, 1:38:37.320 --> 1:38:41.479 you consider the actor. Yeah, you're killing every role you get. 1:38:42.400 --> 1:38:46.200 Then cs I come see Law Order. That's the same 1:38:46.240 --> 1:38:55.720 ship to me. I'm so sorry that everyone can do that. 1:38:55.920 --> 1:39:01.320 No sound y'all take a shot every time we say life. Yeah, 1:39:01.400 --> 1:39:03.920 if you if you're watching it, take a shot. Listen. 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:09.400 So Lord order Doom Doom Doom Doom that the sound tracker. 1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:14.599 They come to you and they say, what do they say? Okay, 1:39:15.400 --> 1:39:19.759 little pre pre story died at my first time working 1:39:19.800 --> 1:39:22.600 with Dick Wolf Fools, the executive producers. That is in 1:39:22.720 --> 1:39:30.280 New York Undercover YEA makes it. Actually I was at 1:39:30.560 --> 1:39:32.880 I was at my house in l A. Hold on, 1:39:32.880 --> 1:39:37.360 hold on, hold on, Benzino, come on, what's wrong with you? 1:39:37.680 --> 1:39:40.799 What's you don't even want to answer for that? Buttery fingers? 1:39:41.240 --> 1:39:47.680 You got buttery fingers? Yo, ben Zino? You live on 1:39:47.760 --> 1:39:51.200 the podcast zero? What we hear? What I iced tea? 1:39:51.520 --> 1:39:56.000 What's up? Zino? What's happening? Baby tea? What's good man? 1:39:56.880 --> 1:40:03.120 You're in New York? Yeah? I we have five forty 1:40:03.200 --> 1:40:06.679 one Lexington. I'm the w Hotel. Come through. Okay cool? 1:40:07.400 --> 1:40:11.680 You know my last name? Right? I don't see how 1:40:11.720 --> 1:40:15.360 het treat me. So New York got under Cover. I 1:40:15.520 --> 1:40:17.680 was with Fab five Freddy in my house. You want 1:40:17.720 --> 1:40:20.080 New York to cover as well? I was on three times. 1:40:20.160 --> 1:40:23.559 I played a guy named Danny Yup and uh um. 1:40:24.520 --> 1:40:27.840 Andre Herrell was talking to Fab five Freddie. Fab five 1:40:28.000 --> 1:40:29.840 was like, I'm at iced tea s crip? He said, 1:40:29.840 --> 1:40:31.760 put iced tea on the phone. He's like, yeah, you 1:40:31.800 --> 1:40:34.040 gotta come on my show, New York under Cover. Andre 1:40:34.400 --> 1:40:36.760 was part of that. I'm like, I told him that's 1:40:36.800 --> 1:40:39.680 a rip off of New Jack City, you know New 1:40:39.760 --> 1:40:46.840 York Undercover. I said, you I never thought, yeah, what's that? 1:40:47.000 --> 1:40:53.320 Too young? I didn't know that. That's why I'm here 1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:59.760 to clarify the ship clarify. So so anyway, he's like, yeah, 1:40:59.800 --> 1:41:02.240 we'll come on the show. And I'm like, all right, 1:41:02.439 --> 1:41:05.400 you know I'm doing movies now, nigger. And then he 1:41:05.560 --> 1:41:07.960 was like, oh right, you too big? Now you know 1:41:08.000 --> 1:41:10.040 how they do that. Like, I was like, all right, 1:41:10.040 --> 1:41:12.120 we'll give me a bad guy role and I'll play 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:13.840 it because I've been playing Polio. I said, give me 1:41:13.880 --> 1:41:15.920 a bad guy role. So there was this role called 1:41:16.000 --> 1:41:18.960 Danny LP. I played it. I get a call from 1:41:19.000 --> 1:41:20.560 Dick Old Things that we don't want to kill you 1:41:20.640 --> 1:41:22.280 at the end of the episode where you do more, 1:41:23.000 --> 1:41:25.720 and I fought with him. We renegotiate that got a 1:41:25.800 --> 1:41:27.880 better room, move me from a bullshit hotel to the 1:41:27.920 --> 1:41:30.400 four seasons. I did two more episode I shot, I 1:41:30.479 --> 1:41:33.840 shot Maliko Malik Yoba's girl and I just wild out. 1:41:34.439 --> 1:41:36.559 So after I did that show. I did a show 1:41:36.600 --> 1:41:38.800 for him called Swift Justice. I played a bad guy. 1:41:38.960 --> 1:41:40.920 I did Law and Order. I played the pin that 1:41:41.000 --> 1:41:43.439 killed me with a bowling pin. Then I had a 1:41:43.479 --> 1:41:46.240 show called Players on TV that was my own show 1:41:46.320 --> 1:41:49.160 with constus man Lauren Frank Hughes. Okay, when those shows 1:41:49.200 --> 1:41:52.240 were over, Dick Wolf, he says, I wish I had 1:41:52.280 --> 1:41:55.800 a stronger vehicle for you, right, I mean, you got it. 1:41:56.000 --> 1:41:58.120 But so I'm like cool. So I was back in 1:41:58.360 --> 1:42:00.720 l A doing my business, doing my ship, trying to 1:42:00.800 --> 1:42:04.920 create iTunes. I was trying to create MP three bass 1:42:05.280 --> 1:42:07.559 that we could put rap music on and people could 1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:10.519 get it go straight to MP three. Niggas was looking 1:42:10.560 --> 1:42:13.000 at me like what is MP three? Niggas was like 1:42:13.120 --> 1:42:16.599 that will never work. Never never work. Niggas ain't getting 1:42:16.640 --> 1:42:19.759 rid of the CDs. So I'm like, no, it's a digital. 1:42:20.160 --> 1:42:24.120 I was like this before Naster after that. It was 1:42:24.400 --> 1:42:27.040 during the time Napster was doing it. But my thing was, 1:42:27.240 --> 1:42:29.400 I will take your album. I would digitally. I was 1:42:29.400 --> 1:42:31.600 going to create iTunes. I would take your album. I 1:42:31.600 --> 1:42:34.240 would put it onto a website where we would download 1:42:34.320 --> 1:42:37.200 it for money, just side it tunes. Before it tunes 1:42:37.560 --> 1:42:41.680 where I would I was, and I was gonna and 1:42:42.080 --> 1:42:43.960 not only that, I was gonna do it regionally where 1:42:44.000 --> 1:42:49.240 there be a map what the fun man put on speaking, 1:42:49.320 --> 1:43:01.960 put on speaking, He let's look at so let him right? 1:43:02.600 --> 1:43:06.160 Really yes, So, so my thing was it had a 1:43:06.240 --> 1:43:09.400 regional map, so if you could go to like, if 1:43:09.400 --> 1:43:11.639 you want to Pennsylvania, it would show all the rappers 1:43:11.720 --> 1:43:14.760 from Pennsylvania. So it would break it down regionally because 1:43:14.760 --> 1:43:17.840 I knew hip hop was regional, so you could do it. 1:43:18.080 --> 1:43:20.160 But anyway, that was I was creating when I got 1:43:20.240 --> 1:43:26.360 the call to dude Spu and uh, I said no, okay, 1:43:26.840 --> 1:43:29.960 I said no because I had fifteen employees, I had 1:43:30.000 --> 1:43:32.479 a data basis, I had servers. I was trying to 1:43:32.560 --> 1:43:35.880 go and then my boy, we had a little problem 1:43:35.960 --> 1:43:38.120 in l A where one of my buddies has set 1:43:38.160 --> 1:43:44.240 me up to get robbed. Yeah, what's his name? Right 1:43:44.240 --> 1:43:49.320 now there's no longer with yeah, so so, but basically 1:43:49.800 --> 1:43:52.839 one of my friends who I looked out time through prison, 1:43:54.040 --> 1:43:56.080 he sent some people up to my office and it 1:43:56.200 --> 1:44:01.040 was a robbery who took place. So everybody finally figured 1:44:01.080 --> 1:44:03.240 it out and it was a little hostile moment everybody 1:44:03.360 --> 1:44:05.360 was worrying about what's going on. And then then we 1:44:05.400 --> 1:44:07.840 figured out who did it, and it was tension, you know, 1:44:08.000 --> 1:44:11.400 tension and ship. You know, my daughter was in the room. 1:44:11.439 --> 1:44:13.719 It was. It was an ugly situation. It's in my book. 1:44:13.760 --> 1:44:16.599 I wrote it in my book. So when it happened, 1:44:16.760 --> 1:44:19.599 one of my boys from sixties, when they called the Emperor, 1:44:19.720 --> 1:44:21.720 he was he with me every day. So he was like, 1:44:22.960 --> 1:44:24.840 they offered me to do the show. He said, get 1:44:24.880 --> 1:44:27.720 out of town, man, get out of town. You know, 1:44:28.320 --> 1:44:30.559 fuck it, it's four shows. That's what We're gonna rob 1:44:30.640 --> 1:44:32.840 you with some money here, like you know, like you know, 1:44:32.960 --> 1:44:34.960 we weren't making no money yet in the business yet. 1:44:34.960 --> 1:44:37.240 And he's like, I got this. So I came out 1:44:37.280 --> 1:44:40.120 here to do four episodes for SPU and it's been 1:44:40.200 --> 1:44:55.720 eighteen years. But also the negative negativity is also one 1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:57.680 of the reasons they say gonna shake the New York 1:44:57.720 --> 1:45:00.439 because all this dramas going on, because you know, how 1:45:00.600 --> 1:45:03.040 hard was it to adapt to New York because right now, 1:45:03.479 --> 1:45:05.479 you like just as much as a New York Nigger 1:45:05.520 --> 1:45:07.400 than me. Well, I always love New York, I always 1:45:07.400 --> 1:45:10.280 love me. I was actually born in Newark, New Jersey. Um, 1:45:10.640 --> 1:45:13.120 my mother passed when I was in the third grade. 1:45:13.200 --> 1:45:15.120 My father when I was in the seventh. I lived 1:45:15.160 --> 1:45:19.479 in Summit, New Jersey over there with my father, and 1:45:19.560 --> 1:45:21.240 then I left to go to l A when my 1:45:21.520 --> 1:45:24.599 father died, and I was in l A ever since 1:45:26.280 --> 1:45:29.560 my aunt his sister, so I lived out there with 1:45:29.720 --> 1:45:32.559 them and stuff. So this brought me back. Music brought 1:45:32.600 --> 1:45:34.519 me back. I was coming out here to get because 1:45:34.960 --> 1:45:37.640 to me, being a rapper, I had to get the 1:45:37.680 --> 1:45:39.840 coach sign of New York. You can't be a rapper 1:45:39.960 --> 1:45:42.200 and not have New York's co signed as far as 1:45:42.280 --> 1:45:54.800 I was concerned. But happy birth I'm gonna get up 1:45:54.960 --> 1:45:58.600 say happy birthday. Has a good pony on right now, 1:45:59.360 --> 1:46:14.320 you have a birthday of my doing. I'm gonna take 1:46:15.160 --> 1:46:23.960 the poem phone has my brother. You were like hand 1:46:24.040 --> 1:46:26.920 for through my life story. Here these guys and no 1:46:27.160 --> 1:46:29.519 stunt on turn. But that's good, that's good. I mean, 1:46:29.800 --> 1:46:31.560 it's better for it to come from my mouth to 1:46:31.720 --> 1:46:41.160 somebody outside. Continue please making that bullshit freak. So when 1:46:41.160 --> 1:46:44.760 you moved to l A, Yeah, yeah, so that that was. 1:46:45.600 --> 1:46:48.200 That was when I moved to Cali with my aunt. 1:46:48.560 --> 1:46:51.880 And you've directly to where lived in Cali. Well not 1:46:53.000 --> 1:46:54.880 or not I was living when I moved out there. 1:46:54.880 --> 1:46:57.519 I was living in an area called Viewpark, which is 1:46:57.560 --> 1:47:00.040 above crunch Shaw and Vernon. It's like a nice of 1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:01.880 me is up in the hills, and I used to 1:47:01.920 --> 1:47:04.880 I got bus to a white junior high school called 1:47:05.040 --> 1:47:07.880 like you kind of situation. He was in Palms Junior 1:47:07.960 --> 1:47:10.599 High School. Crunshaw High School was right down the street. 1:47:11.040 --> 1:47:12.720 So when I got to high school, I said, I 1:47:12.720 --> 1:47:15.080 ain't catching the bus. And that's when I walked into 1:47:15.160 --> 1:47:18.280 the shore and uh, that's what I say in original 1:47:18.360 --> 1:47:21.640 Gangster how I was introduced to the gangs, and I 1:47:21.720 --> 1:47:23.639 did a song because that's how I'm living. I said, 1:47:23.920 --> 1:47:25.800 you know, I was born in New Jersey. I said 1:47:25.800 --> 1:47:28.360 it before, but I guess nobody heard me. My mother 1:47:28.520 --> 1:47:31.559 died young, no sisters of brothers. I was her only 1:47:31.720 --> 1:47:34.559 son when I was young. My pops died too. What's 1:47:34.600 --> 1:47:37.320 the nigga supposed to do? They sent me out west 1:47:37.439 --> 1:47:39.000 to live with my aunt. I guess they thought that 1:47:39.200 --> 1:47:41.519 was the best. But there was no love there, and 1:47:41.640 --> 1:47:44.200 growing with no moms, I guess I was prepared to 1:47:44.360 --> 1:47:46.640 live in a vacuum the bedroom to catch it in 1:47:46.720 --> 1:47:49.320 the hall of the bathroom. I didn't leave home much. 1:47:49.600 --> 1:47:51.639 I didn't like l A. I didn't have no friends 1:47:51.720 --> 1:47:55.080 to trust. I got bus to a school blacks and whites. 1:47:55.200 --> 1:47:57.719 I guess the ship was cool, but by high school 1:47:57.760 --> 1:47:59.840 I changed. I didn't want to bust. I didn't want 1:47:59.840 --> 1:48:02.960 to play the game. I walked to Crunshaw. HI ship 1:48:03.200 --> 1:48:05.479 was fly. I hooked up with a new crew, some 1:48:05.640 --> 1:48:08.439 niggas that I knew, act like they knew what the 1:48:08.520 --> 1:48:10.599 fund to do. Now you may call it a gang, 1:48:10.880 --> 1:48:12.880 but we call it a set, and it was our 1:48:12.920 --> 1:48:15.920 own thing. The whole school was down, and one way 1:48:15.960 --> 1:48:19.080 or another, everybody fucked around. Where the hardcore or not? 1:48:19.600 --> 1:48:28.920 You wore the right color? Yeah, scot shot So yeah, 1:48:29.000 --> 1:48:30.800 that's how I ended up out there. So anyway, yeah, 1:48:30.880 --> 1:48:34.880 I ended up on SVU eighteen years and uh bless. 1:48:35.120 --> 1:48:38.320 It was a very you know, the negative situation along 1:48:38.400 --> 1:48:42.000 with my buddy's insight. It's just what do you think 1:48:42.000 --> 1:48:44.120 about Dave Chappelle when he made the skin about that. 1:48:44.800 --> 1:48:47.360 Dave Chappelle's a genius. It's it's gonna be hard to 1:48:47.479 --> 1:48:50.840 find somebody as funny as Dave Chappelle. Like every once 1:48:50.880 --> 1:48:53.960 in a while, a comic genius comes out, like I 1:48:54.120 --> 1:48:58.600 lived through Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy. But Dave chappellea 1:48:58.760 --> 1:49:03.160 just hits comedy from some other angle that niggas ain't ain't. 1:49:03.280 --> 1:49:07.120 It's just abnormal. Like, you know, I'm a fan of everybody, 1:49:07.240 --> 1:49:11.160 you know, I was just you know, I love everybody. 1:49:11.200 --> 1:49:13.120 I was asked with Kevin Hart the other day, but 1:49:13.320 --> 1:49:16.280 Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hard, if you don't bring your monkey 1:49:16.320 --> 1:49:21.639 ass on here, Yeah, Kevin Marks cool, Kevin's Chappelle, Kevin 1:49:21.760 --> 1:49:27.200 Chris Rock, all that, But bro Dave's comedy is it's different. 1:49:27.640 --> 1:49:30.400 Dave's natural. You know what I'm saying. You don't try 1:49:30.400 --> 1:49:33.560 to It's something different though when he and he, I 1:49:33.600 --> 1:49:35.680 mean we did the player Haters ball. He doesn't give 1:49:35.680 --> 1:49:39.559 a fuck who write that ship. But Nancy, I'm gonna 1:49:39.560 --> 1:49:42.000 go home and put some more milk in your mama's bowl, 1:49:42.520 --> 1:49:46.160 like you right, ship? Like what was the event? Actually? 1:49:46.520 --> 1:49:48.600 I spun at the event in Miami? I think was 1:49:48.640 --> 1:49:51.760 the player the pall in Miami at Luke's Club. That 1:49:51.880 --> 1:49:54.120 was the Player's ball. Probably I was DJ and I 1:49:54.160 --> 1:49:56.280 have a picture and you're like right next to me 1:49:56.439 --> 1:49:59.320 and told me you wanted to run and you're like 1:49:59.560 --> 1:50:01.760 play shook one's part too. Oh yeah, I rhymed in 1:50:01.840 --> 1:50:04.240 that spot. Yeah I was the one spending. Yeah, yeah, 1:50:04.240 --> 1:50:06.320 I remember that. I have a picture. Okay, that's what's up. 1:50:08.600 --> 1:50:13.720 I don't have it all a real picture. I think 1:50:13.760 --> 1:50:17.360 me and Koko were in there that night. This is 1:50:17.400 --> 1:50:20.760 what I was gonna go before we go there. I 1:50:21.120 --> 1:50:25.679 I'm I probably think You're probably the first rap album 1:50:26.479 --> 1:50:29.639 I might have ever jerked off. It was the cover. 1:50:29.800 --> 1:50:35.400 It was a jail the same time that was Power 1:50:36.920 --> 1:50:39.920 jerked off the cover cover brother, Well you know what 1:50:40.160 --> 1:50:44.240 it was. It was It was just like nobody was 1:50:44.400 --> 1:50:49.160 doing it. Nobody was connecting sex, you know, the guns 1:50:49.280 --> 1:50:51.360 and all that, and I was like, this is part 1:50:51.400 --> 1:50:53.479 of it. Luke did it, but he didn't do it 1:50:53.640 --> 1:50:56.439 like he did to Gate somewhere. He did. He did 1:50:56.520 --> 1:50:59.000 it and like that was artistic actually the way you 1:50:59.080 --> 1:51:01.840 did when we did the front of the back, Well, 1:51:01.920 --> 1:51:03.960 that was the second album I did it on. Ryan 1:51:04.080 --> 1:51:07.720 Pays Darling was in the car with us, like in 1:51:08.040 --> 1:51:10.559 a bathing suit and me and Evil were in a Porsche. 1:51:10.720 --> 1:51:12.920 We had a palm tree and we were trying Glenn 1:51:12.960 --> 1:51:15.600 Friedman shot that and we were trying to say this 1:51:15.840 --> 1:51:19.240 is Calie. We wanted that to say California. When the 1:51:19.320 --> 1:51:21.439 time I did the Power album cover, I was dealing 1:51:21.520 --> 1:51:24.800 with power, like the three the three levels of power. 1:51:24.960 --> 1:51:28.200 One is sex. That's the biggest power, right, so you 1:51:28.280 --> 1:51:33.880 see her. The next power is weapons, uh, sex, money 1:51:33.920 --> 1:51:36.080 and guns until you see the weapons. And then the 1:51:36.160 --> 1:51:38.720 next power is deception. And when you turn it over 1:51:38.800 --> 1:51:41.880 you see me and Evil were strapped. So I feel 1:51:42.280 --> 1:51:45.559 deception is the ultimate power because you never know who's 1:51:45.600 --> 1:51:48.439 giving it to you. You know, you, I think you 1:51:48.640 --> 1:51:51.679 fired me, but really he called the shot. He walked away. 1:51:51.960 --> 1:51:54.720 So people that work in that realm of deception and 1:51:54.920 --> 1:51:59.120 and and that's a that's the awesome business. You don't 1:51:59.120 --> 1:52:02.240 know where the shot from. And that's the scarier power, 1:52:02.800 --> 1:52:04.600 you know. So that's what I was dealing with on 1:52:04.680 --> 1:52:07.000 the album cover. Of course, Darlene looked incredible at the 1:52:07.080 --> 1:52:10.000 time and keep saying Darlene, but we don't know. Darlene 1:52:10.080 --> 1:52:12.200 was was my that's my son's mother. No, I've never 1:52:12.280 --> 1:52:14.880 been married before, but that was my son's mother at 1:52:14.960 --> 1:52:16.880 the time. And you know, me and her still got 1:52:16.920 --> 1:52:20.479 a good relationship. I think, yeah, but she out right 1:52:20.880 --> 1:52:25.240 but big of your son, Yeah, just smo. But she 1:52:25.600 --> 1:52:28.280 You know, at the time I was, I was in 1:52:28.320 --> 1:52:31.360 a world where I thought I thought you had to 1:52:31.439 --> 1:52:36.479 be real. I thought you couldn't lie. So I didn't 1:52:36.520 --> 1:52:38.479 know you could wear other people's jurlry. I didn't know 1:52:38.520 --> 1:52:42.280 you could say. I didn't know you could have a 1:52:42.360 --> 1:52:44.880 girl on your album covered it wasn't your girl. I 1:52:44.960 --> 1:52:55.040 didn't notice that everything I had to shoot in my 1:52:55.160 --> 1:52:57.439 own house I had to. I didn't know that that 1:52:58.200 --> 1:53:00.400 were your guns. Oh that's what I said, gets to 1:53:00.479 --> 1:53:07.000 my promo shot props, you know. So I didn't think 1:53:07.080 --> 1:53:12.040 that was okay, and you know I was. I ran 1:53:12.200 --> 1:53:15.560 my career. I ran my career based on those principles. 1:53:16.000 --> 1:53:17.960 If you know I said, I don't what I said. 1:53:17.960 --> 1:53:21.040 I don't rap about Gats, ain't got Jose, ain't caught 1:53:21.400 --> 1:53:23.519 you know guns, I ain't shot it game. To me, 1:53:23.600 --> 1:53:26.120 it's too fucking deep. If I did, honestly believe, I 1:53:26.280 --> 1:53:29.360 dye in my sleep. If I don't have it, I'm 1:53:29.400 --> 1:53:31.880 a rap about not having it right now. You know, 1:53:32.120 --> 1:53:39.479 until I get it, it's a duck down. We will 1:53:39.560 --> 1:53:43.680 do down, shorty come back. Yeah, that's my guy. Yeah, 1:53:43.760 --> 1:53:46.559 let me let me just tell you somebody's tea. At 1:53:46.600 --> 1:53:53.400 the end of the day. Me and Capone we met 1:53:53.439 --> 1:53:59.200 in jail. We never ever ever in jail say we're 1:53:59.240 --> 1:54:03.799 gonna come home and rap, right, Me and this found 1:54:03.880 --> 1:54:08.280 nigger and I'm a found nigger to him. My brother though, 1:54:08.640 --> 1:54:11.599 my brother. But we came home. We was in jail, 1:54:12.280 --> 1:54:16.480 in jail saying we're gonna flip from cocaine. We come home. Absolutely. 1:54:17.000 --> 1:54:21.200 I came home and Compon was rapping and I was 1:54:21.360 --> 1:54:25.360 just like, I was like what And I was rapping 1:54:25.400 --> 1:54:28.400 too in jail. But we ain't never really share raps. 1:54:30.280 --> 1:54:34.600 So we had this whole altitude we we we had 1:54:34.680 --> 1:54:38.880 embarked on. But and this is the reason why I 1:54:39.000 --> 1:54:42.680 named gangster rap all reality rapping. If it wasn't for you, 1:54:43.480 --> 1:54:47.800 they probably wouldn't be us. And that's real ship because 1:54:47.880 --> 1:54:50.680 when I look at the history and sometimes like I 1:54:50.760 --> 1:54:53.200 could google something, I hate googling because I like to 1:54:53.320 --> 1:54:57.000 remember from what and the first original person that ever 1:54:57.280 --> 1:55:00.880 spit reality rap, gangster rap, whatever it is is you. 1:55:01.360 --> 1:55:05.640 Thank you, and we all oh you, not just we 1:55:05.680 --> 1:55:07.760 didn't know how to be fake either though. Yeah, that's 1:55:07.760 --> 1:55:11.720 the thing. That's the same. We didn't know that, That's 1:55:11.720 --> 1:55:13.400 what I don't care. We didn't know you could do 1:55:13.480 --> 1:55:16.080 a photo shoot and have a fake gun. You did 1:55:16.120 --> 1:55:18.760 a photo shoot for the Vibe a real gun and 1:55:18.840 --> 1:55:22.560 it went on and it went off, and it went off. 1:55:23.920 --> 1:55:25.880 But I don't understand. I don't for this one. I 1:55:25.920 --> 1:55:29.440 don't understand how people can get on Instagram and all 1:55:29.480 --> 1:55:32.280 that and lie and talk about ship but then all 1:55:32.320 --> 1:55:34.960 their friends see it and they know it's not real, 1:55:36.080 --> 1:55:38.360 but their friends let them do it. Sort of friends 1:55:38.440 --> 1:55:42.160 fake too. They're going along with this. They checked by 1:55:42.200 --> 1:55:46.080 the lights. If the lights are there, that's the reality. 1:55:46.120 --> 1:55:49.080 But you gotta have balls to do that. Actually, me 1:55:49.200 --> 1:55:51.120 to put a picture up and me saying this is 1:55:51.200 --> 1:55:54.600 my house and niggas know that. What kind of person 1:55:54.760 --> 1:56:00.280 is that? You got Instagram police? That's catching motherfucker's too. Yeah, 1:56:00.400 --> 1:56:03.880 I'm talking about your friends. I'm talking about your friends. 1:56:04.120 --> 1:56:07.480 Like I was held accountable for every lyric, every rhyme 1:56:07.680 --> 1:56:10.400 like Ice. You know, come on, Ice, nigga, yo, what 1:56:10.800 --> 1:56:12.880 you know? I had to make sure I stayed within 1:56:13.000 --> 1:56:16.680 the lines because my niggas wouldn't laugh me out of town. 1:56:16.760 --> 1:56:18.760 They be like, come on, Ice, you know, and my 1:56:18.880 --> 1:56:21.240 homie said, Ice, you don't never have to lie because 1:56:21.280 --> 1:56:23.640 you live such an incredible life. You don't have to it, 1:56:24.000 --> 1:56:26.640 just within it. If you don't, you know, people ain't 1:56:26.680 --> 1:56:28.800 gonna believe most of the stories. I tell I need 1:56:28.840 --> 1:56:30.880 a nigga right here, just the co sign half and 1:56:31.000 --> 1:56:33.880 ship you know, so people, but I don't get it now. 1:56:33.920 --> 1:56:38.520 I just look at people. But now I would like 1:56:38.720 --> 1:56:43.360 to ask you hip hop, Now, what is your what 1:56:43.560 --> 1:56:45.560 is what is Ice fellas on hip hop? I just 1:56:45.640 --> 1:56:48.880 don't think it's held to the same same rules or 1:56:49.040 --> 1:56:52.480 same standards. When I got in hip hop, gang banging 1:56:53.080 --> 1:56:56.200 isn't health of the same standards as is when you 1:56:56.400 --> 1:56:59.400 saw nothing but but but But. I think when I 1:56:59.520 --> 1:57:03.000 got into rap, I understood. You know, people that brought 1:57:03.080 --> 1:57:06.120 me in mail and everybody the cheese to me, they 1:57:06.200 --> 1:57:09.960 said hip hop requires skill. That's what I did in 1:57:10.040 --> 1:57:13.000 the are to wrap my movie. I said, it requires skill. 1:57:13.280 --> 1:57:14.960 You have to be have skill to be a breaker, 1:57:15.080 --> 1:57:18.680 a skill to be a rapper, skill to be a DJ. Right, 1:57:19.000 --> 1:57:21.120 once you lower the bar to where there's no skill, 1:57:21.240 --> 1:57:25.440 it's long longer an art form. It's yeah. So I 1:57:25.720 --> 1:57:28.000 came in when niggas will call you whack and you 1:57:28.080 --> 1:57:30.320 had to take it like you act, or you had 1:57:30.360 --> 1:57:33.120 to get better. You try to get better. It's now 1:57:33.280 --> 1:57:36.360 to me, it's kind of like dance music. It's kind 1:57:36.400 --> 1:57:42.800 of like disco. It's just beats and the productions, some 1:57:42.960 --> 1:57:47.040 of the some of the production. It's definitely I mean, 1:57:47.080 --> 1:57:50.600 I'm being honest. I'm being honest. I'm being honest. If 1:57:50.680 --> 1:57:53.080 I can go into a club, I can go into 1:57:53.160 --> 1:57:55.400 a club and listen to trap beats all night long 1:57:55.520 --> 1:57:58.720 and I'm rocking. I mean, that's the sonic. The sound 1:57:58.960 --> 1:58:05.920 production is every thing but the lyrical content. Everybody starts 1:58:06.040 --> 1:58:09.560 it's calling me Jack Trueller. You live on the podcast 1:58:09.640 --> 1:58:12.480 for Iced Tea and John May get out of here. 1:58:14.040 --> 1:58:17.000 You know what the fool is Iced Tea. I'm what 1:58:17.080 --> 1:58:26.200 I'm Jackie. I'm a really big fan man. I was 1:58:26.280 --> 1:58:29.040 with Jack and the Bronze. You know where you at? Hey, Ali, Ali, 1:58:29.240 --> 1:58:31.960 Ali know the adrels come through and we're about to 1:58:31.960 --> 1:58:34.240 come up with it right now. Alright, alright, alright, alright, 1:58:34.280 --> 1:58:36.800 bring some f and vodka. Goddamn it too. I make 1:58:36.880 --> 1:58:38.840 niggi's turn off thick phones when they're in my house. 1:58:39.040 --> 1:58:41.920 Now you know what, you know what? Let me tell 1:58:41.920 --> 1:58:45.960 you somebody, they don't accumulate more. I haven't said this 1:58:46.040 --> 1:58:48.960 the whole interview. And one thing, one thing, one thing 1:58:49.080 --> 1:58:53.800 that I have to say to you. It's ice. Although 1:58:53.920 --> 1:58:55.680 I give the same love that you give to me 1:58:55.880 --> 1:58:59.800 to younger artists, but you not have ever been obligated 1:58:59.880 --> 1:59:02.680 to give me any love that you always gave because 1:59:02.720 --> 1:59:04.960 I'm a fan. But it's real though I'm not, I'm not, 1:59:05.040 --> 1:59:07.720 I'm not an Let me let me keep let me 1:59:07.840 --> 1:59:11.360 keep bigging you like who ain't. Let me keep bigging 1:59:11.400 --> 1:59:15.760 you up because you've always had our back from the beginning, 1:59:16.160 --> 1:59:19.880 like you're one of them guys. Listen, you're one of 1:59:19.920 --> 1:59:22.720 them guys that I know. I call and I know 1:59:22.800 --> 1:59:25.840 you're gonna respond. I know you're gonna be and you know, 1:59:26.120 --> 1:59:30.720 I always haven't been able to to do what I 1:59:30.800 --> 1:59:34.800 gotta do. But when I've been at the lowest, the medium, 1:59:34.880 --> 1:59:37.840 the highest always been in my corner. Because real niggas 1:59:37.880 --> 1:59:39.840 ain't want to show up at the party. Niggas, real 1:59:39.960 --> 1:59:42.200 niggas meet you in the parking lot in the rain 1:59:42.320 --> 1:59:48.760 with the pistol again. We get it again, and I 1:59:48.880 --> 1:59:51.120 want to thank you. I want to thank you. We're 1:59:51.120 --> 1:59:54.640 gonna ask my soldier boy hold on, but before before 1:59:54.800 --> 1:59:56.560 I get to the soldier boy, because I want to 1:59:56.600 --> 1:59:58.640 know who you got in the fight. But before that, 1:59:58.800 --> 2:00:04.320 clown asked Sniggs. Before that, I was like, well, you 2:00:04.360 --> 2:00:07.160 didn't let me finish. Okay, you didn't let me finish. 2:00:07.720 --> 2:00:10.760 I was, I was. I was saying. The music now, 2:00:11.000 --> 2:00:15.000 sonically is incredible, but it's I understood feel it's lacking 2:00:15.040 --> 2:00:18.280 the lyrical content. I think that they're wrapping. They're wrapping 2:00:18.360 --> 2:00:20.960 fast and wrapping stuff. But I'm not taking nothing from it. 2:00:21.080 --> 2:00:24.000 I'm not Now. I listen to J Cole on the 2:00:24.080 --> 2:00:25.920 other day. He has a record and I was like, 2:00:27.080 --> 2:00:29.720 and that's the only thing. I just think that although 2:00:29.800 --> 2:00:32.200 you're a star now and you're wrapping, take a minute 2:00:32.240 --> 2:00:34.840 and make a record and try to move somebody, like, 2:00:34.960 --> 2:00:37.680 try to change somebody's life with it. I understand it. 2:00:37.720 --> 2:00:40.440 I'm like, Okay, you got the baddest bitches, You got 2:00:40.560 --> 2:00:42.400 the money you high all the time. I got that, 2:00:42.600 --> 2:00:47.840 But what else is there? Anything else is there? Now? 2:00:48.000 --> 2:00:51.000 Some people there is nothing else. It's just getting money. 2:00:51.200 --> 2:00:52.800 And I grew up with cats like that. It's just 2:00:52.920 --> 2:00:55.240 getting money. But some people got it in them to 2:00:55.320 --> 2:00:57.520 try to help and move and if that's anthing, you 2:00:57.640 --> 2:00:59.600 do it. But you change my life. I used to 2:01:03.600 --> 2:01:06.920 you changed my life. One day, somebody asked you and said, well, Ice, 2:01:07.000 --> 2:01:10.080 when you're dropping something, and you said, I don't want 2:01:10.080 --> 2:01:14.520 to drop something because everybody's dropping mixtapes for free. I 2:01:14.600 --> 2:01:16.880 don't want to spit my game for free. And that 2:01:17.000 --> 2:01:21.600 ship totally me. I would say, cute, he said, if 2:01:21.640 --> 2:01:25.080 you notice it's only East Coast niggas that do the 2:01:25.160 --> 2:01:30.839 mixtape game for free. West Coast mixtape they dropped mixtapes, 2:01:31.000 --> 2:01:36.680 they sounded like Nipsey, like we killed people. Will sit 2:01:37.320 --> 2:01:41.600 back and saye downfall on the downfall of New York 2:01:42.040 --> 2:01:45.640 was whatever the downfall of New York was. We downgrade 2:01:46.880 --> 2:01:49.000 so many people. And I said that one day and 2:01:49.120 --> 2:01:53.080 nobody paid attention. But there was a website called daft 2:01:53.160 --> 2:01:57.320 Pith okay right, we put out a thing called the 2:01:57.400 --> 2:02:02.160 Anti Mix Tape Day would up in twenty free mixtapes 2:02:02.200 --> 2:02:05.400 a day on that website. Yeah it was. It was like, yo, 2:02:05.600 --> 2:02:08.879 this is so deluded. Now there's no value down labels 2:02:08.920 --> 2:02:11.680 and suing them for that. But still it's like, yo, man, 2:02:11.800 --> 2:02:17.120 I mean like, if this is your business, then you 2:02:17.240 --> 2:02:19.800 gotta hold and you gotta take its content. You can't 2:02:19.840 --> 2:02:22.440 just give it away. I never threw out a free mixtapes. 2:02:24.120 --> 2:02:26.960 It's ridiculous. It's like, what are you doing, especially somebody 2:02:27.000 --> 2:02:29.120 like you was already known. I mean, if you knew, 2:02:29.160 --> 2:02:32.600 you might have to mixtape with but I don't. I 2:02:32.640 --> 2:02:34.880 don't don't. And then how did the producers get paid 2:02:34.920 --> 2:02:38.400 when you're giving away nobody? You just doreat yourself in 2:02:38.520 --> 2:02:41.040 the same person that didn't put half the work you 2:02:41.120 --> 2:02:43.800 put in the game. Put yourself on the same level 2:02:43.920 --> 2:02:45.600 as then when you have a mixtape. But that's why 2:02:45.640 --> 2:02:48.200 you gotta have producers that's lawyer like hazard. It sounds 2:02:48.640 --> 2:02:53.520 sp K, scram Jones, incredible cuts. You know, people like that, 2:02:53.880 --> 2:02:56.320 because because I'm not getting no money over this, there 2:02:56.400 --> 2:02:58.760 don't work either. So you gotta have people that it's 2:02:58.800 --> 2:03:01.680 willing to take that rest with you. But mind you this, 2:03:02.280 --> 2:03:11.680 it's compone. When you said that ice change my mind 2:03:12.000 --> 2:03:15.440 on from Queensbridge. Yeah, you don't stop that queens And 2:03:15.640 --> 2:03:18.880 why does your vapor smell like room Boss? My va 2:03:19.240 --> 2:03:22.840 smells good. It smells it smells like old Span is pussy. 2:03:23.240 --> 2:03:26.240 I'm just keeping it real. It's like it's just like 2:03:26.360 --> 2:03:33.680 some nice smells fans. But he knows my ship is crazy. 2:03:34.880 --> 2:03:38.200 Span is good your ice. You can text me the 2:03:38.240 --> 2:03:41.240 picture when you walk it. Please? What is it? That's 2:03:48.480 --> 2:03:58.120 it's zy? Just a shirt to be honest, interview with 2:03:58.200 --> 2:04:14.160 you is so perfect give weight right now. Welcome to 2:04:14.280 --> 2:04:18.240 play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities 2:04:18.360 --> 2:04:22.200 talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at 2:04:22.280 --> 2:04:27.040 play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with 2:04:27.280 --> 2:04:32.360 Rapper and R and d J. Then, you know, I 2:04:32.960 --> 2:04:35.760 just can't thank you enough because I know you humble, 2:04:35.880 --> 2:04:50.920 and you and and hey, but what keep going? Man? 2:04:51.040 --> 2:04:53.240 Keep going? You saw him and I just want to 2:04:53.360 --> 2:04:55.960 thank you because you know why I and I know 2:04:56.080 --> 2:04:58.760 you don't give a fuck. I know you're a real nigga, 2:04:59.120 --> 2:05:03.040 but you know what I feel is real niggers should 2:05:03.040 --> 2:05:05.760 be saluted nowadays. At the end of the day, fake 2:05:05.880 --> 2:05:08.720 niggas had their time and that's the reason why me 2:05:08.800 --> 2:05:11.240 and my partner right here started this podcast. But you 2:05:11.320 --> 2:05:14.040 can feel it is we want to. If you notice 2:05:14.240 --> 2:05:18.240 we've never interviewed not one new guy, and if you 2:05:18.320 --> 2:05:23.120 interview the new Guy. He came with an old and 2:05:24.920 --> 2:05:29.120 only this is the only generation in the world that 2:05:29.320 --> 2:05:34.400 when you become old they kick you out first. That 2:05:34.600 --> 2:05:38.000 you can still do it Jazz, you can still do it. Uh, 2:05:39.760 --> 2:05:43.520 southup my ain game. You could be sixties seven pop 2:05:43.600 --> 2:05:46.120 stars getting more love for longer and the hip hop 2:05:46.240 --> 2:05:48.280 is the only thing. So you know what what me 2:05:48.360 --> 2:05:50.560 and my partners, that's why I got a rocket album now. 2:05:50.960 --> 2:05:55.360 But listen to but you ain't got to have a million. 2:05:55.600 --> 2:06:00.560 You can stick with hip hop and you know, like no, 2:06:00.720 --> 2:06:06.040 but it's real. It's the word. Sometimes you gotta you know, 2:06:08.040 --> 2:06:13.640 but this birthday you can't get back. This is what 2:06:13.800 --> 2:06:16.120 drink Champs is. Drink chats. We want to salute all 2:06:16.240 --> 2:06:19.720 legends because there's no other platform to salute all legends. 2:06:20.480 --> 2:06:22.560 Like right now, if you say I'm gonna do the 2:06:22.640 --> 2:06:26.240 hottest podcast quote unquote, they want to They want to 2:06:26.360 --> 2:06:28.760 get jay Z, they want to get nas, they want 2:06:28.760 --> 2:06:31.200 to get Drake, they want to get all these people. 2:06:31.480 --> 2:06:33.920 That's not what we started off to do. We wanted 2:06:33.960 --> 2:06:37.360 to support our legends. You know, we meet me myself 2:06:37.520 --> 2:06:40.800 like the Raptors. I liked one of the prerequesces was 2:06:41.000 --> 2:06:44.320 what I like to hang out with. Do you know 2:06:44.480 --> 2:06:46.360 I wanted to roll with rock Him. I wanted to 2:06:46.440 --> 2:06:48.760 hang with Big Daddy Kane. I wanted to hang around 2:06:48.840 --> 2:06:52.200 Component No yea game Ray Kwan and hang with Easy. 2:06:52.320 --> 2:06:57.160 Give us an a z story that untold. No that's easy, Easy, well, 2:06:57.200 --> 2:06:59.920 Easy game was. He always tried to tell people's fifteen 2:07:05.480 --> 2:07:14.200 you come out that I know, you don't come out 2:07:15.720 --> 2:07:18.000 just while out in the hotel room some stuff. I 2:07:18.040 --> 2:07:20.080 mean I've seen Easy. You know, the ladies that be 2:07:20.200 --> 2:07:22.920 cleaning the thing. It's like tackle the chick like like 2:07:24.880 --> 2:07:27.120 like this is four nigs, was getting charges and stuff. 2:07:27.160 --> 2:07:30.040 They was just wilding out. But now you know, Easy 2:07:30.200 --> 2:07:32.520 was a good dude. I mean he was. He was 2:07:32.680 --> 2:07:36.080 the street member of the group. He funded that group 2:07:36.200 --> 2:07:38.480 right out. Think it's said that, Yeah, it's true. So 2:07:38.520 --> 2:07:40.880 I'll give you other people names and I just want 2:07:40.920 --> 2:07:44.720 to see you wanted to continue to Easy. Know Easy, 2:07:44.800 --> 2:07:47.040 I mean, there's not think of it as Easy. It's 2:07:47.080 --> 2:07:49.640 passed away. So it's kind of odd to talk about him. 2:07:49.640 --> 2:07:52.040 I'm not gonna say no Wild, but I might actually 2:07:52.040 --> 2:07:53.680 a couple of people that passed, but I got wild 2:07:53.720 --> 2:07:58.360 story because you got you got story rested. Well, Jam 2:07:58.440 --> 2:08:02.200 that's something about Jack Messenger. Jay was Jay was another 2:08:02.360 --> 2:08:05.160 person who was like the most authentic like part of 2:08:05.320 --> 2:08:07.560 Run d m C. Like he was a street cat. 2:08:07.920 --> 2:08:11.680 So I would always actually like somehow they would gravitate 2:08:11.800 --> 2:08:14.280 to me and we would end up talking and stuff 2:08:14.360 --> 2:08:16.880 like that. But Jay was a solid dude. I mean, 2:08:18.400 --> 2:08:21.280 it's amazing that no one car who killed him. That's 2:08:21.320 --> 2:08:24.800 just amazing that somebody of that caliber, that's like somebody 2:08:24.880 --> 2:08:28.280 from like the one the Super Bowl, like Tom Brady 2:08:28.320 --> 2:08:31.120 get killed. Nobody knows about it. You know, that's crazy. 2:08:33.240 --> 2:08:35.280 And the thing, you know what's crazy. They talk about 2:08:35.640 --> 2:08:40.720 solving they talk about not solving big murder, not sov 2:08:40.880 --> 2:08:44.000 pop pop murder, but they never talked about not solving 2:08:44.080 --> 2:08:47.240 jam Mr Jay and he was just as pinnacle and 2:08:48.080 --> 2:08:50.640 jay Z. Let me tell you, jay Z, and I 2:08:50.680 --> 2:08:54.000 mean Jam mr J and Run d m Z. Remember 2:08:54.000 --> 2:08:55.880 you talk out that moment with you. That was the 2:08:55.960 --> 2:08:59.680 moment that made me really rap. Like I went to 2:08:59.800 --> 2:09:02.360 a concert they had and they had everybody put their 2:09:02.520 --> 2:09:06.360 dads and jam mr J was on a riser and 2:09:06.400 --> 2:09:09.120 they had lasers and ship and I was just trying 2:09:09.160 --> 2:09:12.120 to wrap and I was like, yo, this ship is 2:09:12.240 --> 2:09:15.720 rocking wrong. Like yo, I like no that because we 2:09:15.800 --> 2:09:17.680 had always been doing it in the basements and the 2:09:17.760 --> 2:09:20.440 little clubs and ship and when I seen that, I 2:09:20.560 --> 2:09:22.400 think I went home that night and wrote like twenty 2:09:22.520 --> 2:09:26.560 raps Like I was like, yo, they rundy m C. 2:09:26.760 --> 2:09:30.840 Let me understand. This was big. But it was bigger 2:09:30.920 --> 2:09:34.280 than the basement and the small clubs. Hip hop ward. Okay, 2:09:34.320 --> 2:09:37.920 so I'm going a little bit all over these Tupac 2:09:39.200 --> 2:09:42.600 I knew pop when he was in uh in Digital Underground, 2:09:43.360 --> 2:09:46.560 he was dancing, and um, is that a difference between 2:09:46.960 --> 2:09:54.320 two Digital Underground Tupac wanted. I remember we were at 2:09:54.360 --> 2:09:56.760 a Soul Train awards and it was me and Dre 2:09:57.480 --> 2:09:59.960 and we were sitting at a table and Punk walk by. 2:10:00.160 --> 2:10:03.280 You say, d dr Dre. You just can't just say Dre, 2:10:03.480 --> 2:10:08.480 you know, yeah, as a stupid Dr Dre And and 2:10:09.080 --> 2:10:11.240 Pock walked by, and at that time he was in 2:10:11.360 --> 2:10:15.240 Tupac yet I think maybe it was a Treach or somebody, 2:10:15.640 --> 2:10:17.520 but he looked at the table and I could see 2:10:17.560 --> 2:10:19.720 he wanted to sit at the table, you know, I 2:10:19.800 --> 2:10:22.320 could see it. And then as he started to make 2:10:22.440 --> 2:10:25.960 his move at Tupac. I remember one time cook see 2:10:26.120 --> 2:10:28.880 Pack was doing some strange things like all right, like 2:10:29.000 --> 2:10:31.480 he hooked up with the cats in in south central 2:10:31.680 --> 2:10:35.280 fifty second to five deuces, which was rated are and 2:10:37.440 --> 2:10:40.960 no no crip about kick the producer out. But Ali 2:10:41.080 --> 2:10:44.240 got a go. He cooked up with rated all and 2:10:45.200 --> 2:10:48.600 they created that thing thug Life, which was based in 2:10:48.880 --> 2:10:53.360 south central l A. Nothing homies in Jersey. No no, no, no, 2:10:53.560 --> 2:10:55.880 no no no no, I dott but I thought the 2:10:55.920 --> 2:10:59.440 third Doug Life was rated R and um and uh 2:10:59.720 --> 2:11:03.360 mac doocious. They were out of l A, right, and 2:11:03.640 --> 2:11:07.120 then you know he evolved from that and then when 2:11:07.120 --> 2:11:10.040 he got into trouble out here, that's when Sugar came 2:11:10.080 --> 2:11:12.080 in and got him out. But I remember one time 2:11:12.120 --> 2:11:14.680 I was in l A and Pomp pulled up on 2:11:14.760 --> 2:11:17.720 me in a car with like this crazy ass chick 2:11:17.880 --> 2:11:23.840 like some like strawberry bit in the front seat. He had. Yeah, 2:11:23.880 --> 2:11:25.800 that's how I noticed, think of my brother. That's exactly 2:11:25.880 --> 2:11:28.960 what I said in my mom Strawberry is basically Bronze 2:11:29.000 --> 2:11:39.040 didn't get off for crack like it's a it's a 2:11:39.160 --> 2:11:43.280 street thing for like a crack. Huh Okay, So this brod. 2:11:43.520 --> 2:11:45.240 I know it wasn't this woman. I'm like, what is 2:11:45.280 --> 2:11:47.480 this business? Went in the car? She already you know. 2:11:47.720 --> 2:11:50.320 But he's getting high and he had weed. He had weed, 2:11:51.200 --> 2:11:53.960 he had gun and he wanted me to sit in 2:11:54.040 --> 2:11:58.680 the car and listen to a record. I'm like, are 2:11:58.760 --> 2:12:03.000 you riding around? Like like, are you serious? Are you 2:12:03.240 --> 2:12:06.600 fucking kidding me? I'm not so you know, let me 2:12:06.680 --> 2:12:09.440 just take see. He was trying to impress you, even 2:12:09.480 --> 2:12:12.200 if he wasn't trying to press you, because every time 2:12:12.240 --> 2:12:14.040 I hang out with you, I'm trying to impress. But 2:12:14.120 --> 2:12:16.880 he was. He scared me, so I was like like, 2:12:17.760 --> 2:12:20.760 I was like, man, this is crazy. But I'll tell 2:12:20.760 --> 2:12:23.080 you some real inside ship. He was in my house. 2:12:23.520 --> 2:12:25.760 I had a studio called the crack House, and he 2:12:25.920 --> 2:12:28.080 was at my house with the outlaws, a couple of 2:12:28.160 --> 2:12:31.600 the outlaws, and he played me hit him up and 2:12:31.680 --> 2:12:35.160 I didn't like it. And I was like, you're gonna 2:12:35.200 --> 2:12:36.960 start some you don't like it because of what he 2:12:37.080 --> 2:12:39.120 was saying. I didn't like him starting to beef. I 2:12:39.200 --> 2:12:41.000 was like, dog, you knew where I was gonna go. 2:12:41.280 --> 2:12:44.120 I said, you going in on dude wife and all that. 2:12:44.360 --> 2:12:46.280 I was like Yo, He's like yo. Then at that 2:12:46.400 --> 2:12:49.600 time he thought Big Head shot him and I was like, Yo, 2:12:49.720 --> 2:12:52.240 whoa you can hand I wouldn't you ain't for be 2:12:52.320 --> 2:12:55.000 handling that with a record? Really? Are you? You know? 2:12:55.520 --> 2:12:58.640 So we kind of was on bad terms that that 2:12:58.720 --> 2:13:00.560 because he wanted me to ride with him and I 2:13:00.720 --> 2:13:04.240 was like I couldn't, you know, And so that we 2:13:04.400 --> 2:13:06.240 was we was kind of like in that zone when 2:13:06.280 --> 2:13:09.520 he got killed. Was what he was saying that Was 2:13:09.600 --> 2:13:12.120 he saying that that was reality? Or was he saying, 2:13:12.200 --> 2:13:14.360 I'm just a rod record. It's a b F record. 2:13:14.800 --> 2:13:17.000 You know, he's talking about life wife, but it's a 2:13:17.080 --> 2:13:19.240 b F record. Like if you're gonna set it and 2:13:19.320 --> 2:13:21.640 you're setting it yelling West Coast, you shouldn't have set. 2:13:21.920 --> 2:13:26.120 I knew that was gonna turn into a real you know. Yeah, 2:13:26.240 --> 2:13:28.800 you know I'm not out wrapping you. I'm threatening you. 2:13:28.920 --> 2:13:32.600 I'm talking yeah, And I'm like yo. I was like, yo, 2:13:32.960 --> 2:13:36.000 I mean you really even to go there? You know, 2:13:36.200 --> 2:13:39.720 I'm sitting back like who I'm supposed to be. I'm older, 2:13:40.600 --> 2:13:42.840 like Yo, this is this is you know? But he 2:13:42.920 --> 2:13:45.440 wanted to going like yeah, yeah, yeah, this is good ship. 2:13:45.640 --> 2:13:49.000 Let's do it say, is he saying that he smashed Faith? 2:13:49.320 --> 2:13:54.600 That's what I'm doing. But he said that he he 2:13:54.720 --> 2:13:56.520 said it, But was he in the studio? Was he 2:13:56.600 --> 2:13:59.920 saying this is true? Wasn't. No, No, we didn't get there. 2:14:00.160 --> 2:14:02.480 I just listened to the playback and was like, dog, 2:14:02.640 --> 2:14:07.160 that's I don't know, not a good ideade too much, 2:14:07.360 --> 2:14:10.480 it's not a good idea. Plus I'm cool with New 2:14:10.560 --> 2:14:15.600 York like, yo, you remember what it was gone, but 2:14:16.440 --> 2:14:20.400 it was gonna cause a crazy and all all bullshit aside, 2:14:20.600 --> 2:14:23.120 right if you're thinking, maybe shot you while you making 2:14:23.160 --> 2:14:29.160 a record, right, Okay, So we went there. You gonna 2:14:29.280 --> 2:14:32.200 you handle this with a record? Okay? But he wasn't 2:14:32.200 --> 2:14:34.880 ready for that, and I wasn't really trying to send 2:14:34.960 --> 2:14:36.680 him on the minute. I was just trying to get it, 2:14:36.960 --> 2:14:44.360 get it, yeah, come on man, but as yeah, yeah. 2:14:44.400 --> 2:14:47.280 But but anyway, long story short, you know, I love 2:14:47.400 --> 2:14:50.040 Poc was a good kid. I remember one night Shot 2:14:50.480 --> 2:14:52.840 came and knocked on my door and he was like, yo, 2:14:53.160 --> 2:14:55.440 uh you need to talk to Pock And he said, 2:14:55.480 --> 2:14:57.280 you like one of the only people here listened to 2:14:57.960 --> 2:15:00.120 And he was like you you know he's gonna now 2:15:00.160 --> 2:15:02.320 you listening to me at that time, So you know, 2:15:02.480 --> 2:15:05.080 he kind of got caught in the song. See when 2:15:05.120 --> 2:15:07.240 you're when you're not in the l A gang scene 2:15:07.240 --> 2:15:12.000 and you come to l A and they embrace you. Yeah, 2:15:12.080 --> 2:15:16.560 it's it's you're not necessarily safe, you know. And it 2:15:16.680 --> 2:15:18.480 wasn't where he was supposed to be. Like, you know, 2:15:18.600 --> 2:15:20.880 you you make records, you should be on your way 2:15:20.960 --> 2:15:23.120 out of the game. You shouldn't be making records and 2:15:23.160 --> 2:15:26.440 then going into it, you know, because you're making flyers. 2:15:26.600 --> 2:15:31.520 Like when a stream nigger has the power of an amenity. 2:15:31.880 --> 2:15:35.880 Who shot him Pooky Low? Who's Pooky Low? Nobody knows 2:15:36.080 --> 2:15:38.120 who shot him? Iced Tea, iced Ty gonna be on 2:15:38.200 --> 2:15:41.240 this flyer, He'll be right here. You know. You no 2:15:41.440 --> 2:15:44.800 longer have that ability to disappear into the hood. Niggas 2:15:44.840 --> 2:15:47.240 could pop up on you any motherfucker where. So you 2:15:47.320 --> 2:15:50.200 gotta let that ship go. You gotta let that ship go. 2:15:50.400 --> 2:15:52.840 You're no longer in the underworld. Now you're part of 2:15:52.880 --> 2:15:56.040 the mainstream, and you gotta you have to behave like that. 2:15:56.120 --> 2:15:59.400 So did you did you actually see like after that, 2:15:59.640 --> 2:16:02.240 did you see that pot was going down the road 2:16:02.440 --> 2:16:05.920 that wasn't necessarily Yeah, it wasn't you know. It was 2:16:06.080 --> 2:16:09.160 just not a good place to be, uh you know, 2:16:09.360 --> 2:16:11.800 but you know he was rolling with Shug. Sugar got 2:16:11.880 --> 2:16:14.000 him out of jail, so everybody had turned their back 2:16:14.080 --> 2:16:15.800 on the truck when he got caught in that mess, 2:16:15.840 --> 2:16:19.640 still came and saved. What was your relationship with Sugar 2:16:19.720 --> 2:16:24.520 was m W as bodyguard and but yeah, but he 2:16:24.640 --> 2:16:27.960 rode with them, and being Sugar always had a cool rep. 2:16:28.480 --> 2:16:32.440 Cool like understanding no beef because we did no business. 2:16:32.680 --> 2:16:35.880 But you gotta understand, Sugar is a football player and 2:16:36.240 --> 2:16:40.360 he basically had act connections to the MOB or the MLB, 2:16:40.920 --> 2:16:43.160 the cats in his neighborhood where he's from, and they 2:16:43.200 --> 2:16:46.560 were bloods and he surround himself with a gang of bloods. 2:16:47.040 --> 2:16:51.440 So that was power and something. But then again, my 2:16:51.760 --> 2:16:55.880 boys they were like we the other side, so that 2:16:56.040 --> 2:16:58.400 don't matter to us. And I got Nigga as big, 2:16:58.560 --> 2:17:02.600 biggest Sugar, So it's like, what's happened, friend? You fucked 2:17:02.640 --> 2:17:05.080 me up with that one. Though. My boys was the 2:17:05.160 --> 2:17:07.360 others like because you know, for the rap game, all 2:17:07.440 --> 2:17:13.000 they knew was Sug at one point. That's and but 2:17:13.120 --> 2:17:15.920 but but see, I'm not operating as as that type 2:17:15.959 --> 2:17:26.960 of a militia. But they gotta go yeah, you know, yeah, 2:17:27.040 --> 2:17:31.760 but you know it's like, okay, and that's children. We well, 2:17:31.800 --> 2:17:35.400 everybody was cool, everybody understood everybody. Everybody had their limits. 2:17:35.560 --> 2:17:38.360 But me and Sugar never shared a negative word. He 2:17:38.520 --> 2:17:42.480 was very respectful in areas and we respect because we 2:17:42.760 --> 2:17:46.080 we aren't enemies, so to speak. But then at the 2:17:46.160 --> 2:17:50.080 same time were from two different sides of the gang world. 2:17:50.480 --> 2:17:53.320 You know what I'm saying, I'm from a crypt side. Okay, 2:17:53.480 --> 2:18:00.680 so they like whatever, can I at your question? U disgressive? 2:18:02.600 --> 2:18:06.200 This is going through something we talk about beef. What 2:18:06.680 --> 2:18:09.240 was to deal with you? We said, I questioned Mo 2:18:09.440 --> 2:18:12.080 d here man iced Tea girl. Well, what happened was 2:18:12.360 --> 2:18:22.560 l l it was I had to ask that because 2:18:22.640 --> 2:18:26.840 I mean, not that I know, uh, he's a little 2:18:26.879 --> 2:18:34.880 bit not I know, because because iced Tea is real nigger. 2:18:35.040 --> 2:18:37.640 I just wanted that was like that was that was 2:18:37.760 --> 2:18:41.320 equivalent to Biggie and partner. Yeah, but no one. I 2:18:41.400 --> 2:18:43.480 didn't take it like that. What happened was with with 2:18:43.760 --> 2:18:46.200 with him was he was just saying he was the 2:18:46.280 --> 2:18:49.520 greatest rapper ever. And I was coming out from the 2:18:49.560 --> 2:18:51.760 West Coast and how was I going to be able 2:18:51.800 --> 2:18:54.320 to be taken seriously if I let someone say they 2:18:54.320 --> 2:18:57.000 were the best. So I had to rep minds. I 2:18:57.240 --> 2:19:00.360 was just like, funk, whoever you think you are, NIGGI 2:19:00.720 --> 2:19:02.760 you know, I had a whole coach on my back. 2:19:02.840 --> 2:19:05.280 So I was like, let's go. Now. Whether I thought 2:19:05.320 --> 2:19:08.560 I could actually beat him wrapping whatever, but I had 2:19:08.640 --> 2:19:11.240 to stay in my ground. And I thought I might 2:19:11.320 --> 2:19:13.320 have been able to be more clever than him, who knows, 2:19:13.800 --> 2:19:17.440 But it was no. That ship got shut down bam. 2:19:17.520 --> 2:19:22.760 But I'd actually shut down that rap beef because because 2:19:23.040 --> 2:19:26.879 l L wanted to be part of Zulu, and there 2:19:26.959 --> 2:19:30.000 was a moment where they were asking me, and I'm like, well, 2:19:30.040 --> 2:19:31.800 if it's up to me, you know, me and him, 2:19:31.800 --> 2:19:34.520 it's kind of beefing and ship. But at the end 2:19:34.560 --> 2:19:37.960 of the day, yeah, because Africa Islam put me in 2:19:38.000 --> 2:19:46.240 the game. I might have missed that. He did producing right, 2:19:48.200 --> 2:19:50.960 so so so l you know, but it was his 2:19:51.120 --> 2:19:53.760 record ship. It wasn't it was just who's better rapper? 2:19:54.240 --> 2:19:56.720 Wasn't threatening each other's lives and shipping all that, and 2:19:56.800 --> 2:19:58.920 I did this and that, and I think he said 2:19:59.400 --> 2:20:01.920 I took the the record the thing to the bathroom 2:20:02.040 --> 2:20:05.480 or whatever. But you know whatever, you know that's not granted. 2:20:05.560 --> 2:20:09.080 Some murder like that just still looks so bad that 2:20:09.200 --> 2:20:12.400 you're both like to keep me by storm, like y'are 2:20:12.480 --> 2:20:17.320 both the rat L Now how does that? How does that? 2:20:17.520 --> 2:20:22.120 I ran into LLL in Monte Carlo. We were what's up? 2:20:22.480 --> 2:20:25.200 What's up? All right? Good to see you? All right? 2:20:30.040 --> 2:20:35.600 What's going on with my brother ben Zeno's in the village. 2:20:36.160 --> 2:20:38.560 I was watching TV. I saw you get shot on TV. 2:20:38.680 --> 2:20:45.120 I was like, your relative shot you crazy? To shoot me? 2:20:45.680 --> 2:20:54.520 That's crazy, don't say but my family, now you let's 2:20:54.560 --> 2:20:59.880 get to this Monty Carlo doing a television contention. I'm 2:21:00.080 --> 2:21:03.200 and I chopped it up with l L. And you 2:21:03.280 --> 2:21:05.400 know it was like yo, man at the end. Back 2:21:05.440 --> 2:21:07.080 in them days, this is what we had to do. 2:21:07.320 --> 2:21:10.400 We had to stand our ground, no disrespect, and we 2:21:10.520 --> 2:21:13.440 shook and everything. But I had this recently. This happened 2:21:13.480 --> 2:21:16.199 maybe five years ago. After that point, I hadn't crossed 2:21:16.200 --> 2:21:19.320 the l ELS path nothing like the whole time. We 2:21:19.400 --> 2:21:21.360 don't have to. You know, we live in different coasts 2:21:21.440 --> 2:21:26.400 and you know, but Hollywood didn't bring you all like 2:21:27.160 --> 2:21:29.000 he's like that, what about you? All right, what about 2:21:29.080 --> 2:21:33.520 MODI did you know when when that happened? Did you 2:21:33.600 --> 2:21:36.080 ever talked to we got a funk out. Now, It 2:21:36.200 --> 2:21:39.040 wasn't that. It wasn't it wasn't that serious kind. It 2:21:39.160 --> 2:21:42.000 was wrap ship. It was rap ship. It was never 2:21:42.120 --> 2:21:44.440 that serious. It was just like I could wrap better 2:21:44.520 --> 2:21:49.560 than you know, as a as a young dude coming up, 2:21:50.240 --> 2:21:53.600 and as a young dude coming up, like embarrassment. Come on, man, 2:21:54.680 --> 2:21:57.800 the same person and young dude coming up right, so 2:21:57.920 --> 2:22:00.960 I'll see like you you would that soldier boy for 2:22:01.120 --> 2:22:02.720 his rap and you're like, Yo, that ain't real hip 2:22:02.760 --> 2:22:05.600 hop or whatever, blah blah. Like I agree with you 2:22:05.840 --> 2:22:08.200 because I come up under the seeing nick upon the North, 2:22:08.520 --> 2:22:10.959 I know real hip hop. But I'm taking it as 2:22:11.080 --> 2:22:13.560 like he's a young boy coming up trying to use 2:22:13.600 --> 2:22:15.720 a platform just to make it out the hood. So 2:22:15.840 --> 2:22:17.680 it's like I felt like if I was him, like, 2:22:17.800 --> 2:22:19.880 I'll be hurt to hear that first. It's like I 2:22:20.000 --> 2:22:22.040 look up to you like you going shoot on me. 2:22:22.120 --> 2:22:24.440 I'm just trying to make it out feed my fan. Okay. 2:22:24.680 --> 2:22:26.840 It was a backstory to that. This is what happened. 2:22:27.080 --> 2:22:29.080 This is why we were talking about phones off and 2:22:29.240 --> 2:22:31.880 cameras are because we were. I was making a mixtape 2:22:31.920 --> 2:22:33.800 from one of my homies in the hood. Right, This 2:22:33.920 --> 2:22:37.760 dude just a regular nigked I'm on his rapping, rapping 2:22:37.840 --> 2:22:41.000 for him free right. So when I get into the booth, 2:22:41.040 --> 2:22:44.280 the nigga started like like saying, niggas don't want to 2:22:44.320 --> 2:22:46.520 hear you. They want to see boy. They want so 2:22:46.600 --> 2:22:48.920 they pumping me up. They're using this ship to get me. 2:22:49.680 --> 2:22:51.039 They're like, yeah, they don't want to hear you. Nig 2:22:51.160 --> 2:22:55.480 didn't want to hear christ. They hit my g bone. 2:22:55.560 --> 2:23:02.400 I'm like, and I went on and I lined up, 2:23:02.520 --> 2:23:05.000 I went on a ramp, and the niggas taped it 2:23:06.200 --> 2:23:07.640 and put it out and put it on in the 2:23:07.760 --> 2:23:11.560 front of their mixtape. So I'm so that was. That 2:23:11.680 --> 2:23:13.960 was one of my iced t old man rants. It 2:23:14.120 --> 2:23:16.119 was he was never supposed to hurt it. So now 2:23:16.320 --> 2:23:19.760 I'm in Arizona, minded my business. My son goes soldier 2:23:19.800 --> 2:23:23.080 boys on the internet talking shit about you. So I'm like, 2:23:23.240 --> 2:23:26.560 what so a parent they planned the tape back here listening. 2:23:27.040 --> 2:23:30.600 So now I'm like, well, I can't back down. I 2:23:30.760 --> 2:23:34.200 did say this ship, so now I'm out there, so 2:23:34.320 --> 2:23:37.000 let me verify, let me break down what I said 2:23:37.000 --> 2:23:39.040 and not as told, and nigga breast straight up, nigga, 2:23:39.600 --> 2:23:42.240 this is how I feel blah blah blah blah blah 2:23:42.680 --> 2:23:46.200 and what and then rest is history. But at the 2:23:46.360 --> 2:23:49.280 time I felt the bar was starting to drop. And 2:23:49.400 --> 2:23:51.400 I just think that that once again, it needs to 2:23:51.440 --> 2:23:54.120 be a degree of difficulty in hip hop that always 2:23:54.200 --> 2:23:56.600 has been there and that's what makes it something special. 2:23:56.959 --> 2:23:59.680 There's something about a star. A star is something you 2:23:59.760 --> 2:24:02.200 can't reach. That's why Michael Jordan is a star. You 2:24:02.360 --> 2:24:04.240 can't reach it, and that's why we look up to him. 2:24:04.400 --> 2:24:07.119 But when you're doing something that everybody can do, you're 2:24:07.160 --> 2:24:10.720 not really started me what anybody can do, and show 2:24:10.800 --> 2:24:13.480 me something I can't do, and you get to praise. 2:24:13.600 --> 2:24:16.800 So you know, God blessed soldier. But you know this 2:24:17.000 --> 2:24:21.800 is what I do know. Niggas will end up in 2:24:21.879 --> 2:24:25.000 their own ship if that's what they deserve. So now 2:24:25.400 --> 2:24:28.160 you're seeing this this guy and and and look at 2:24:28.160 --> 2:24:30.680 where his life is. You see what I'm saying, So 2:24:33.040 --> 2:24:36.600 you you don't really gotta do nothing to nobody. They 2:24:36.720 --> 2:24:39.120 gonna end up where they're supposed to be because of 2:24:39.160 --> 2:24:43.160 their actions. So you know God, but now we want 2:24:43.200 --> 2:24:47.320 to know you know what that's like. That's like if 2:24:47.320 --> 2:24:49.640 you ever heard about the Laws of Murphy, what can 2:24:49.760 --> 2:24:54.680 happen will happen? And that's what Let me. Let me 2:24:54.720 --> 2:24:57.400 just tell you something. You want to join the gangs gang. 2:24:58.320 --> 2:25:00.800 You're a good guy, busy. You know history in this room, 2:25:00.920 --> 2:25:04.640 right you know said yeah, yo, you know Ice Ice 2:25:04.920 --> 2:25:27.160 kuld killed. Hell, it was it was real because real 2:25:27.240 --> 2:25:32.400 ship though, and I respected because hold on the table 2:25:32.400 --> 2:25:35.840 and I spent on it was real because like like 2:25:36.360 --> 2:25:38.600 I remember when we had the ours so cool and 2:25:38.680 --> 2:25:42.760 we was on Tommy Boy and when and which is 2:25:42.800 --> 2:25:46.640 now on by Warner Bucks, right right exactly. But if 2:25:46.680 --> 2:25:48.879 it's crazy because all happened at that time. But when 2:25:48.879 --> 2:25:50.400 he came out with the cop Killer song, we know 2:25:50.480 --> 2:25:52.560 we just got a deal on Tommy Boy, dude from Boston. 2:25:52.640 --> 2:25:54.840 You know, I got a little single deal. We put 2:25:54.879 --> 2:25:57.120 a song out called one the Chamber. So when the 2:25:57.200 --> 2:25:59.640 Chamber we talked about two kids who I got killed 2:25:59.680 --> 2:26:01.640 and ball stand and the police got over with it whatever, 2:26:01.680 --> 2:26:04.360 you know what I'm saying, shot shot dude under a car, 2:26:04.440 --> 2:26:05.720 shot over due in the back of the head, and 2:26:05.720 --> 2:26:08.400 they got over with it. So, um, we end up 2:26:08.400 --> 2:26:12.640 getting dropped from Tommy Boy because the Boston Police Patrols 2:26:12.640 --> 2:26:15.280 associated and has sued us. So I forgot. There was 2:26:15.280 --> 2:26:18.600 an interview and it was something that I don't know 2:26:18.600 --> 2:26:20.160 if you did the interview, if I did the interview, 2:26:20.480 --> 2:26:22.200 and it was just something because since he had the 2:26:22.240 --> 2:26:24.120 cop Kills song and we got with the cop that 2:26:24.280 --> 2:26:26.960 was trying to compare things, and it was saying that. 2:26:27.000 --> 2:26:28.800 I said, well, as far as I know, you know, 2:26:29.600 --> 2:26:31.959 even though of course I see legend in the game, 2:26:32.040 --> 2:26:34.280 but the song, from my understood was kind of rock. 2:26:34.760 --> 2:26:37.000 It was rap rock, you know what I'm saying. I said, 2:26:37.000 --> 2:26:38.600 it was kind of different. I said, you know, I said, 2:26:38.600 --> 2:26:40.840 we didn't. I said, O, it was just a rap song. 2:26:40.920 --> 2:26:43.080 We was just pretty much talking about you know. I mean, 2:26:43.120 --> 2:26:45.360 it was almost like the same thing. But we went 2:26:45.400 --> 2:26:48.400 out and did the show at the Irvan Empathy. So 2:26:49.160 --> 2:26:50.800 it's just the five of us, you know, we don't 2:26:50.800 --> 2:26:52.800 have no security, nothing to ship. So it was four 2:26:52.840 --> 2:26:54.880 of us, plus we had a little Jamaican neg that 2:26:54.920 --> 2:26:56.800 did on the hook for one of the songs or whatever. 2:26:57.720 --> 2:27:01.280 So when when when when I came with Madman, this 2:27:01.400 --> 2:27:03.240 was the time I guess where they was trying to 2:27:03.600 --> 2:27:06.560 squash the blood and crypt the truth. He had like 2:27:06.560 --> 2:27:09.440 a hundred niggas would I'm like so like one of 2:27:09.440 --> 2:27:11.960 theg was like, yo, I see what I should man, 2:27:12.680 --> 2:27:15.960 I said, ship Sometimes I think right, I'm like, funk right, 2:27:16.000 --> 2:27:18.920 I mean look now, my side of the story is this. 2:27:19.760 --> 2:27:23.199 When the ship happened, the word got out that RSO 2:27:23.480 --> 2:27:26.560 said that we I was the reason they got dropped 2:27:27.160 --> 2:27:29.280 right right right. But that's that's how it came at me. 2:27:29.680 --> 2:27:31.920 So it was like your rs SO said something about 2:27:31.959 --> 2:27:34.000 you that the wait so like like I was telling 2:27:34.040 --> 2:27:37.280 them in my I keep everyone abbress of who we 2:27:37.400 --> 2:27:39.640 might have beefs this that you gotta so, I think 2:27:39.840 --> 2:27:41.880 rs SO it popped up on our radar like it 2:27:42.000 --> 2:27:44.840 it's r SO. Nigga said, some fly So then I'm 2:27:44.879 --> 2:27:47.000 at this place and they go there, they go right. 2:27:48.840 --> 2:27:50.480 But we felt it though, because I was like, look, 2:27:50.720 --> 2:27:53.480 I said, look, I said, look, I said, man, I said, 2:27:53.520 --> 2:27:57.400 we gotta stay together, said nobody was whole body runs. 2:27:58.680 --> 2:28:01.920 What happens, We're gonna get mopped up together. Somebody running. 2:28:01.920 --> 2:28:04.480 We can have a problem like niggas a little Jamaica 2:28:04.560 --> 2:28:06.320 nigga was like, oh, I didn't even like he was like, 2:28:06.800 --> 2:28:11.200 what the fund did I get? MESSI He's like, I'm 2:28:11.280 --> 2:28:14.320 not even off. So like my niggas was, he wasn't 2:28:14.360 --> 2:28:17.440 even that mode. They identified him. So I'm gonna go 2:28:17.600 --> 2:28:20.000 over to you. No could your man came. He was 2:28:20.040 --> 2:28:22.720 like one. So I said, I'm gonna go there like 2:28:22.800 --> 2:28:24.560 y'all said, I'm gonna go over there. I'm gonna talk 2:28:24.640 --> 2:28:26.520 to the OI. We went over that talk and I 2:28:26.640 --> 2:28:28.720 never forget this, you said that. She was like, look, man, 2:28:29.240 --> 2:28:31.200 I ain't got no beef for nothing. Mess Man, you 2:28:31.240 --> 2:28:33.200 see these things that's the Grape Street there that that 2:28:33.360 --> 2:28:35.440 I'm looking out. I'm like, yeah, you know what I'm 2:28:35.480 --> 2:28:37.760 looking at it, like yeah, I see it. It's like man, 2:28:37.920 --> 2:28:42.320 funk that he's like, let's go kill some cops. Together said. 2:28:43.879 --> 2:28:47.200 I was like going to like, look, I'm not my 2:28:47.320 --> 2:28:52.440 beef is with you with you? And and and also 2:28:52.560 --> 2:28:57.600 I never, I never, I never really took secondhand information. 2:28:58.080 --> 2:29:00.920 You know, somebody say you said something, then I'm gonna 2:29:00.920 --> 2:29:02.720 get you and I'm gonna see if you'll say it again, 2:29:03.160 --> 2:29:05.800 you know, because that cause niggas get killed over second 2:29:05.840 --> 2:29:08.840 hand information. It wasn't real. So if I can't walk 2:29:08.959 --> 2:29:10.760 up to Ben and say, yo, what's really good? But 2:29:10.920 --> 2:29:13.879 I was really more or less like I ain't mad man. 2:29:14.000 --> 2:29:16.720 A ship went bad when my ship got banned, ship 2:29:16.840 --> 2:29:19.080 went bad for a lot of people, you know, and 2:29:19.200 --> 2:29:21.360 I everybody said it was my fault, but I'm like, yo, 2:29:21.400 --> 2:29:24.040 this ship is real, right, we're real. Like so if 2:29:24.080 --> 2:29:26.119 you guys have had heated at the cops and let's 2:29:26.160 --> 2:29:28.560 go get down. Because I was always like that with niggas. 2:29:28.600 --> 2:29:30.760 I'm like, you so quick, you're killing another homie over 2:29:30.840 --> 2:29:33.320 an orange soda. But when they come, you run like 2:29:33.879 --> 2:29:37.480 where's your gangster? And to this day, yeah, they had 2:29:37.520 --> 2:29:40.040 the American flag with all red and blue. Remember the 2:29:40.120 --> 2:29:42.800 stage turn like that was history. A lot of people 2:29:42.840 --> 2:29:44.960 didn't even like that wasn't documented, but you had the 2:29:44.959 --> 2:29:48.199 bloods and crypts on stage. They had American from big flag. 2:29:48.240 --> 2:29:50.200 It was biggest, about as many niggas more than here, 2:29:52.840 --> 2:29:54.640 So it was I mean, it was that was an 2:29:54.640 --> 2:29:57.440 ill moment. It was a moment where l a command 2:29:57.480 --> 2:29:58.960 you for that that was big to do it that 2:29:59.080 --> 2:30:01.440 that hadn't been done before as far as I knew, 2:30:01.680 --> 2:30:03.920 you know, I wanted to try to get the l 2:30:03.959 --> 2:30:07.280 A gangs to to stop killing each other. I still 2:30:07.560 --> 2:30:09.560 this is like all in the same gang. Now this 2:30:09.720 --> 2:30:12.640 is during the ninety two this is a truce, which 2:30:12.920 --> 2:30:15.000 which truth is? What's going on prior to that? And 2:30:15.440 --> 2:30:18.080 why were you on that record? Now that was after 2:30:18.200 --> 2:30:22.000 I was after all that the same game. But you 2:30:22.160 --> 2:30:25.080 was the reason Boston started when when Colors came out, 2:30:25.720 --> 2:30:30.080 that's when everything started forgot about After after Colors everything started, 2:30:30.920 --> 2:30:33.720 everything started going like in the same to Boston when 2:30:33.760 --> 2:30:36.720 Colors came out. Then that's when really I noticed Boston 2:30:36.760 --> 2:30:38.680 started ganging up. You know what I'm saying. It was 2:30:38.720 --> 2:30:41.920 right after Colors. Colors, Like I mean this be from 2:30:41.920 --> 2:30:43.840 the movie theaters. Thing was going crazy when that ship 2:30:43.959 --> 2:30:45.280 came out. You don't you know the thing of it 2:30:45.400 --> 2:30:49.400 is with me, man, that's like I'm responsible for a 2:30:49.520 --> 2:30:52.960 lot of negative ship that happened. But really I've always 2:30:53.040 --> 2:30:55.800 been the person that's really tried to get peace. You know, 2:30:56.000 --> 2:30:59.640 at the end of the day, my messages can be misconstrued, 2:31:00.040 --> 2:31:03.600 know because I can go into that mode, but that's 2:31:03.640 --> 2:31:06.200 not really my get down. My get down is not 2:31:06.440 --> 2:31:08.360 that And when people meet me, they go, wow, you 2:31:08.480 --> 2:31:11.560 so mild manage you so cool? You know where'd all 2:31:11.600 --> 2:31:14.720 this gangster ship come from? I say, well, people like 2:31:14.879 --> 2:31:17.920 me are the ones you gotta look out for. Then 2:31:17.920 --> 2:31:19.840 they can walking around talking all tough and ship like that. 2:31:20.200 --> 2:31:22.160 He doesn't have any power. That's why I don't understand 2:31:22.160 --> 2:31:23.920 why Donald Trump, now that he has all, this party 2:31:23.959 --> 2:31:31.440 needs to counter because when you have that ability, then 2:31:31.480 --> 2:31:35.160 you don't need to raise your voice Twitter. You can 2:31:35.240 --> 2:31:39.960 just become calm because it's it's nothing, you know. So yeah, 2:31:40.120 --> 2:31:41.760 you know a lot now. Nigga see me now and 2:31:42.000 --> 2:31:45.000 I'm not the normal rapper. They're like, why you ain't. Yeah, 2:31:45.040 --> 2:31:47.720 I'm like, I don't. I don't need to be like that. 2:31:48.040 --> 2:31:51.039 You know. That's all that extra ship right then that's 2:31:51.120 --> 2:31:55.879 it's over different different, but the same ship can happen. 2:31:56.000 --> 2:32:00.680 Niggers can bring the gravity. I just want to I 2:32:00.760 --> 2:32:05.120 just want to do real appreciation. I've seen my brother 2:32:05.280 --> 2:32:08.520 Chin BEng is here, my brother be Strows. Heirs want 2:32:08.520 --> 2:32:12.840 to diego y'all, Benzino, it's a great podcast going on, 2:32:13.000 --> 2:32:18.120 righted team. I can't thank you enough. I can never 2:32:18.240 --> 2:32:20.400 thank you enough for anything you ever did, because you 2:32:20.480 --> 2:32:24.160 know what, I could never repay you for anything you 2:32:24.240 --> 2:32:31.080 ever did, relax, for the children, for the coach. I 2:32:31.120 --> 2:32:33.240 can never repay you for anything you ever did to me. 2:32:34.200 --> 2:32:36.320 And you know how I would pay you with that. 2:32:37.120 --> 2:32:39.120 I would pay you with that is because I always 2:32:39.160 --> 2:32:41.560 do something for somebody who could never repays a game. 2:32:42.200 --> 2:32:45.000 That's real talk paying for its real pay it forward. 2:32:45.040 --> 2:32:48.320 Because you're so big, I can't even It's nothing I 2:32:48.400 --> 2:32:50.480 can ever offer you, can never offer you money, I 2:32:50.560 --> 2:32:52.720 can never offer you anything. All I can offer you 2:32:52.840 --> 2:32:55.280 is real friends. But it's always a treat when players meet. 2:32:55.320 --> 2:32:57.200 It's always a treat when you get around cat to 2:32:57.320 --> 2:32:59.600 your own caliber and you can chop it up and 2:32:59.640 --> 2:33:02.960 it ain't nobody bragging and talking about that unnecessary ship 2:33:03.160 --> 2:33:06.640 because at some point everybody has everything. So there's nothing 2:33:06.680 --> 2:33:09.800 to brag about now because we all have everything. So 2:33:10.000 --> 2:33:12.760 now what is what are you talking about? What have 2:33:12.879 --> 2:33:15.160 you done? What are you what are you giving back? 2:33:15.320 --> 2:33:17.800 You know that's how really wealthy people bragg. You know 2:33:17.920 --> 2:33:19.840 that they talked about how much money they gave away. 2:33:20.280 --> 2:33:21.840 That's not what they have because we all got the 2:33:21.920 --> 2:33:23.879 yaps and books. So what are you giving? All? Getting 2:33:23.879 --> 2:33:25.800 away ten million? This year? I gave back fifty minute 2:33:25.800 --> 2:33:28.440 that's why. That's how the Baller's brand. You know, we're 2:33:28.440 --> 2:33:30.680 still on the nigger side trying to get something. You 2:33:30.720 --> 2:33:33.200 know what I'm saying. We ain't there yet. But my 2:33:33.360 --> 2:33:36.680 thing is iced Tea is really just a person is 2:33:36.720 --> 2:33:40.000 trying to show people there's no limits. Everywhere you want 2:33:40.040 --> 2:33:42.320 to go, you can do it. We all come from 2:33:42.400 --> 2:33:45.480 the hood, and you set your own limits. You know, 2:33:45.520 --> 2:33:47.360 if you listen to the crowd, you're gonna end up 2:33:47.400 --> 2:33:50.600 with them. You did, you can do whatever the funk 2:33:50.680 --> 2:33:53.520 you want. And uh, you know, you just gotta drop 2:33:53.520 --> 2:33:56.000 a lot of that negative ship. You just gotta drop 2:33:56.040 --> 2:33:59.000 a lot of that boisterous, arrogant ship that gets you 2:33:59.120 --> 2:34:02.200 shot and you getting You just learned the mellow out. 2:34:02.560 --> 2:34:05.040 And all of us in this room should live as 2:34:05.120 --> 2:34:07.080 long as we want. We shouldn't go to prison. All 2:34:07.160 --> 2:34:08.920 that we passed. Once you get out of your twenties, 2:34:09.680 --> 2:34:11.480 that's the kill zone right there. If you make it 2:34:11.520 --> 2:34:16.240 out of that, there's no Now you're o g playing 2:34:16.440 --> 2:34:19.640 Xbox nor that's all I do. I plays a one 2:34:19.720 --> 2:34:23.080 year old. Let me just say this and this right 2:34:23.400 --> 2:34:27.280 and the one year old. Here's the problem is, they 2:34:27.440 --> 2:34:30.440 never expected us to make twenty one now after we 2:34:30.600 --> 2:34:33.760 make past twenty five. Now they call us a O G. 2:34:34.240 --> 2:34:36.280 But back in the days, they used to call your 2:34:36.320 --> 2:34:39.480 O G after thirty five forty, but now they call 2:34:39.560 --> 2:34:47.760 you G. Isn't that messing up? I'm understand this, man, 2:34:47.800 --> 2:34:50.360 I'm gonna hold I'm on another channel, right, I'm on 2:34:50.480 --> 2:34:54.560 the channel. It it's called nigger as I funk with like. 2:34:54.760 --> 2:34:57.640 And that's only people care about. Can you send me that? Yeah, 2:34:57.680 --> 2:35:03.000 you want me? Everything else is development and they can 2:35:03.080 --> 2:35:05.000 come up and they can learn. If they don't want 2:35:05.040 --> 2:35:07.039 to take advice, they can learn the way we learn. 2:35:07.280 --> 2:35:09.160 You didn't what I'm saying. Might have to make a 2:35:09.440 --> 2:35:12.360 detour through the penitentty, but they're gonna figure it out. 2:35:13.800 --> 2:35:21.240 I think it's and that's only prema. Let me just 2:35:21.320 --> 2:35:24.360 say something. I can never thank you for anything you 2:35:24.480 --> 2:35:27.000 ever did for me, and you continue to do it 2:35:27.120 --> 2:35:31.400 for me. You've never fronted on me. I really really 2:35:31.480 --> 2:35:35.600 appreciate everything. I really love you as a person. I 2:35:35.680 --> 2:35:37.880 love you as an artist. You already know that. I know. 2:35:38.680 --> 2:35:41.640 I can guarantee you when we go downstairs, I could 2:35:41.640 --> 2:35:44.040 probably know more l everything you know to your own ship. 2:35:44.120 --> 2:35:50.320 Stop it no, no, because the way he called his verses. No, 2:35:50.560 --> 2:35:55.360 he really know. I'm not gonna take that. At the 2:35:55.440 --> 2:35:57.480 end of the day, I iced tea big up to 2:35:57.520 --> 2:36:00.480 your beautiful wife. Yeah yeah, everything is good. Go Actually 2:36:00.520 --> 2:36:02.640 no coco questions and one of that, as you know 2:36:02.720 --> 2:36:08.879 why this is hip hop right. So to me, you love, 2:36:09.640 --> 2:36:17.640 open that door, you open that door, you open that door. 2:36:19.879 --> 2:36:25.000 But to your wife, um, Chanelle is in the building. 2:36:25.080 --> 2:36:26.960 I got a one year old daughter, look y'all. Just 2:36:29.640 --> 2:36:34.280 like like you, I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm just very 2:36:34.400 --> 2:36:36.879 fortunate to still be here, to still be in the game. 2:36:37.040 --> 2:36:38.760 I never wanted to be at the top of the game. 2:36:38.760 --> 2:36:40.360 I just I always wanted to be in the game. 2:36:40.480 --> 2:36:43.240 Just bubble, you know, and just chill. I'm about to 2:36:43.320 --> 2:36:48.200 turn fifty nine. I didn't know that I'm standing in 2:36:48.240 --> 2:36:50.840 the ways answering the way you know we do. I'm 2:36:50.879 --> 2:37:02.600 not going to nigga. So just from that age, just 2:37:02.760 --> 2:37:05.200 from my age, my perspective is gonna be a little 2:37:05.240 --> 2:37:07.680 bit deeper. The people I grew up with is a 2:37:07.760 --> 2:37:10.000 little bit different. So that's kind of like you know, 2:37:10.160 --> 2:37:12.320 you say you cut from a different cloth, cut from 2:37:12.320 --> 2:37:17.400 a different cloth. So I hold that code that all 2:37:17.480 --> 2:37:20.720 that I've always held it. And I was telling them earlier. 2:37:21.000 --> 2:37:23.400 The only thing you leave on earth is your your 2:37:23.440 --> 2:37:29.120 reputation and respect that I've earned. So my kids forget 2:37:29.200 --> 2:37:37.280 the money, Jack Jack, tell them we're coming down. Tell him, 2:37:37.879 --> 2:37:40.640 but I'm in it like this, right. The only thing 2:37:40.800 --> 2:37:44.800 that you have in life is your name and your respecting, 2:37:44.879 --> 2:37:48.040 your honor, and with my kids, regardless how much money, 2:37:48.080 --> 2:37:50.240 I can live, and it doesn't matter. If my son 2:37:50.440 --> 2:37:53.280 says I'm little ice and they say your father was 2:37:53.360 --> 2:37:56.440 a sucker, then that's his life. He's gonna live under that. 2:37:56.879 --> 2:37:59.520 So if I'm an honorable cat, people are gonna look 2:37:59.520 --> 2:38:01.840 out for them. They're gonna go, that's your dad, you know, 2:38:01.959 --> 2:38:03.960 the same way we look out for biggest kids to say, 2:38:03.959 --> 2:38:06.160 way we look out. And that's what I'm all about. 2:38:06.200 --> 2:38:10.760 It's b maintaining my respect and my honor for my kids. 2:38:11.160 --> 2:38:13.160 That's all. It ain't about the money. It's not that 2:38:13.600 --> 2:38:15.800 that ship, you know, all that ship comes and goes. 2:38:16.040 --> 2:38:17.920 It's all about that. As long as you've a player 2:38:18.000 --> 2:38:21.240 has his health and his freedom, anything can happen. Right, 2:38:21.480 --> 2:38:23.640 If you have your health and your freedom, that's all 2:38:23.720 --> 2:38:27.280 that mattered. So I'm at home playing Xbox eating cockles. 2:38:27.320 --> 2:38:29.280 I take my black ass the law and order, I 2:38:29.440 --> 2:38:32.400 come back home my motherfucking business. I'm trying to stay 2:38:32.440 --> 2:38:34.040 the funk out the way. I don't want to be 2:38:34.160 --> 2:38:36.840 on your blogs, and none of that old bullshit pop 2:38:36.879 --> 2:38:39.360 out when I've got something to sell. When I'm pushing 2:38:39.440 --> 2:38:42.800 something other than that, I'm cool. I'm chilling, you know, 2:38:43.080 --> 2:38:45.960 because we all got everything we need. Remember this, we 2:38:46.120 --> 2:38:49.440 all got everything we need. It's all about now what 2:38:49.600 --> 2:38:52.680 you want and you I can't tell you what you want. 2:38:52.800 --> 2:38:54.120 We got what we need. What do you need? To 2:38:54.160 --> 2:38:57.200 pair of pants, some shoes, a car, and rent and food. 2:38:57.280 --> 2:39:00.199 That's all you need. Everything else is what you want. 2:39:00.280 --> 2:39:02.000 Some good with that, right, that's all you need. But 2:39:02.120 --> 2:39:05.440 we got that. So your life is based around what 2:39:05.600 --> 2:39:08.160 you want and and and you don't know what I want. 2:39:08.440 --> 2:39:17.199 I might just want to chill and watch TV from 2:39:17.240 --> 2:39:19.560 the bottom of my heart. And I'm gonna speak from 2:39:19.600 --> 2:39:22.879 my partner as well, both partners. Look, it's kind of awkward. 2:39:24.040 --> 2:39:35.200 This is a religious experience here, partner, partner, somebody here. 2:39:35.600 --> 2:39:38.720 You'll pay attention, but but half for all of us. 2:39:39.720 --> 2:39:41.880 We want to thank you because you know why. And 2:39:42.000 --> 2:39:45.519 then and we also understand that you had started your podcast, 2:39:46.200 --> 2:39:48.400 you had did your podcast, but you need to stop 2:39:48.520 --> 2:39:50.840 that and come with drink Champ that one with you 2:39:51.160 --> 2:39:53.640 I did. I did fifty nine episode and this is 2:39:53.720 --> 2:39:57.080 where we're doing. I am Show Night and Puff Daddy together. 2:39:57.360 --> 2:40:00.120 I love it. If they had never had be if 2:40:00.120 --> 2:40:02.160 Sugar Knight and Park Daddy got together, this is what 2:40:02.280 --> 2:40:17.200 drink chat that bird is. Come on myself, I said, 2:40:17.560 --> 2:40:21.640 thank you so much because you know why Ice, there 2:40:21.720 --> 2:40:25.440 really isn't no other platform a hip hop. Now we 2:40:25.520 --> 2:40:29.720 will get real talk. But not only that, we praise 2:40:29.800 --> 2:40:34.800 our legend because every time in our game, after you 2:40:34.879 --> 2:40:39.680 get ten years, you're finished. And every other music or 2:40:39.800 --> 2:40:43.440 genre of anything, do you get ten years, you're a legend. 2:40:43.640 --> 2:40:45.480 Well you come on, man, when you get ten years 2:40:45.600 --> 2:40:48.920 in hip hop, they say, and we don't want to 2:40:49.000 --> 2:40:51.480 do that over here. That's another place, you know. My 2:40:51.840 --> 2:40:54.680 I mean, if I meant George Clinton, I know George Clinton. 2:40:54.720 --> 2:40:58.640 We got too much money he got He's motherfucking George Clinton. 2:40:59.320 --> 2:41:01.480 You gotta And that's how I mean. You know, I'm 2:41:01.520 --> 2:41:05.840 not a distance cat. And just so you know, are 2:41:06.320 --> 2:41:09.360 George Clayton and hip hop? Yeah? Make some noise. I 2:41:09.360 --> 2:41:15.360 ain't not only that you, you the kids. This this's 2:41:15.400 --> 2:41:20.320 my kids. That's my children all. They might not look 2:41:20.400 --> 2:41:22.879 like it, but they all my children. That's that's all 2:41:22.959 --> 2:41:26.480 my child. But you are the George Clinton of our 2:41:26.600 --> 2:41:28.760 hip hop and we're gonna get you to praise you, 2:41:29.320 --> 2:41:32.920 keep you alive. Come and make sure thank you. Goddamne 2:41:33.240 --> 2:41:38.080 makes your Nord drinking looks like my little nephew