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Speaker 1: He's a legendary Queen's rapper, He's a Miami hip hop pioneer.

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Speaker 1: that's exactly who he is. He's been like that ever

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, when when East Coast we had gangster rap,

422
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: but it wasn't It wasn't reality rap. It wasn't you

423
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: guys that mob style. No, Mom's something come up before

424
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: you didn't know, but after it, okay, this is this,

425
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: trust me. So you when I think a West Coast

426
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think a gangster rap. Your name is one

427
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: of the first, if not the first, right and you

428
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: and you you coined that, so did everybody else. Kind

429
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: of gravitated because I believe in w a came out,

430
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: but the word gangster rap wasn't out with me. The

431
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: word gangster rap came out, yes, because Cube and Extra

432
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: out of Compton. He says from a gang called niggas

433
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: with attitudes. He didn't say from a group. He said

434
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: from a gang. So he represented his click as a gang.

435
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: And then then the pressed coin gangster rap. They didn't

436
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: have a name until they gave it that name. But

437
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: I was but that's why after they did that, I said, well,

438
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: if it's that's gangster rap, then I'm the oviginal gang.

439
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: You are, So that's when it went backwards. Okay, that's

440
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: now gangs rep Then I'm the old original gangs. You

441
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: flipped everybody's wig at one point. At one point, we're

442
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: sitting back and we see this bishop dom, We see

443
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: these pimps uping movie. We see ice, this slide full

444
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: to the side, magnetic, and the way you did it

445
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: and the way you spoke. We knew that you wasn't front.

446
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: We knew that you were well and how the pimps

447
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: accepted you. But now it was that a life prior

448
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: to your gang. The thing of it was, I was

449
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: in the streets hustling, So I didn't sell. I tried

450
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: to sell coke once, but then everybody took the money

451
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: and ran off like I gave I I I gave

452
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: it out my friends and they all came back short.

453
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: So so now I wasn't going to do kill my

454
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: friend what I had left. I was just able to

455
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: make the money that I invested back. That's I can't

456
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: do this no more. But then when I was in

457
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: every one of them, everyone niggas had stories like I'm like, yo,

458
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: How'm I gonna niggas understanding this. You know, you give

459
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: out the dope to your friend and he comes back

460
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: with a story not money. I'm like, I can't do

461
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: this because now I'm supposed to force, but I can't,

462
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: my buddy, So I got out of that. I tried.

463
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: I tried, I tried. You know, I had some weight,

464
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: exactly invested my money, but it didn't work like that.

465
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: You know, I was more. We was more basically jewelry

466
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: store Roberts. We was robbing jewelry stores, doing things of

467
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: that nature. But when I was in the Army, I

468
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: got connected to a pimp named Machel, and Machel I

469
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: used to go hang out at his house and he said,

470
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: you cut for this game, ain't Maybe you got them

471
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: light eyes, You're not too much turned on bodies? No, no, no, no,

472
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: My buddies. My buddy in the army, his girlfriend's sister

473
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: was a hull a prostitute. So so when his girlfriend

474
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: an army, oh no, Hawaii's like open season, you know,

475
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: because you have all that military I mean, Hawaiian y'all

476
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: was in the army because it was a ranger. So okay.

477
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: So so my boy, Spicer, you know, I don't like

478
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 1: using names because I don't know where these niggas are

479
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: at this moment. He might be working for IBM. I

480
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: might get fired. But my boy Spicer, his girl was

481
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: was her sister. So it's like, yea, we're gonna go

482
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: to this party this weekend. But but blind we would

483
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: go over there and it was my man Machel's house

484
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: full of holes. So he would look at me be like, YO, says,

485
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: you mean working prostitutes, because you know working girls, prostitutes,

486
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: and they were working on the island of Huai. Who

487
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: you've got. You have navy, you have navy, you have

488
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: marines there, and you have army, and and those guys

489
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: only have a weekend. They don't have a lot of

490
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: times to create relationship. So and then you have a

491
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: lot of tourists there. So you're saying the US government

492
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: since your holes. Well, I'm just saying prostitution is accepted

493
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: in certain places. To keep it everything. It's always been

494
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: in the military. Yeah, it's a lot of it's a

495
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: lot of guys on that island, right, So kind of

496
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: like it was a good place to get your pimpen.

497
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: So I'm over there and homeboy was just like, Yo,

498
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: you cut for this and this that in the third

499
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. But

500
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm in the service. And so then when I got home,

501
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: we was we was when we would rob and ship.

502
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: We had girls. We was working plastic like even thing

503
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: it's talking about. They did sliding credit cards. It's an

504
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: old game. That's an old games. Were getting the micro

505
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: film and we were making the credit cards, and we

506
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: had the military, the I D s. We were printing

507
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: them and ship. We've been doing that ship for years.

508
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: That's nothing new. This new credit card game. Now they

509
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: got a chip. Okay, new game, and you figured that

510
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: one out. Motherfucker. They got a chip for your punk ass.

511
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: You ain't sliding shipping them. You know how to take

512
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: the credit cards, tacking it. That's all these niggas is

513
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna lose their Gucci belts. But anyway, so I'm in that.

514
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: So we we we would always keep females in our

515
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: click and stuff. So eventually I started reading this Iceberg

516
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: slim ship not decide. I wanted to pimp on the bit.

517
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 1: You know. So my girls was trying to run. They

518
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: was trying to They're looking for they was trying to escape.

519
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: I remember, I just want chick named Mary. So I'm trying.

520
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to, you know, get her out there,

521
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: like let's go get this money and ship like that.

522
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: And she ran in one of my partners like I

523
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: just pimping on me. He's pimping like that, and then

524
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: he come to tell me to bit choosing, like she

525
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: ain't choosing. Nigga, you were arrest having for holes trying

526
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: to get away from this pimping I'm trying to put on.

527
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: But I was close enough. I mean, pimping is not

528
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: very difficult to do. All you just need is a

529
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: girl just willing to shit and and hustle. I wasn't

530
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: no big time pimp like uh, you know, bishoping them.

531
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean every other nigga probably have

532
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: sent the bitch before. I mean, just sending a girl

533
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: to perform the act of prostitution and bring you the money. Okay,

534
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: That's what pimping is, all right. So I dabbled in

535
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: all types of levels of the game, but I was

536
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: no knockdown, drag out pimp with a catalyt. Let me

537
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: let me tell you some very difficult let me tell

538
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: you something. Let me tell you something. I watched pimp suppose. Now,

539
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: I watched a couple of other movies and for a

540
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: week I thought I was a pimp. I think that's

541
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: my wife. This story might get shut down here. Yeah, yeah,

542
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: that's my wife. Luck she's But so what happened was,

543
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: let me get the story out here. Oh I got

544
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: some great what happened story? Bishop don't want comes to

545
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: the hood, laugh, gives me my cup and says, you

546
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: were one of the famous players of the year war.

547
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't know because I get why

548
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: he's giving me the famous player to yeah, boar war,

549
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: But I know I'm not a pimp like I do that.

550
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: So girls, you're sleeping high and I walk into this

551
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: club and I said, bits chu, I don't know why

552
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: I said this, and if it saying yeah, I choose

553
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: you all the good game, all of them kid of

554
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: me and said you don't know what you're doing, and

555
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: it's it's true, But how does that How does a

556
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: person get into pimping? I mean, basically, you gotta find

557
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: a female that's like hose are hose without actually without

558
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: a pimp? You know, every girl knows a girl that

559
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: thinks that they can use that as a method of operating.

560
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: We used to call the strip club the indoor track,

561
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's it's like they're

562
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: not actually prostitutes, but they're working inside of an element.

563
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: But it's still any time you're actually given somebody some

564
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: type of sexual um for money that you don't like them,

565
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: you're prostituting yourself. Even a woman who's going out to

566
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: dinner with a guy for a pair of shoes and

567
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: stuff like that, she's actually prostituting herself. Even in this business,

568
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: sometimes they asked us to do ship, not that even sexually,

569
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: and you would like, damn, man, I feel like I'm

570
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm giving up myself for the money, you understand. But

571
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, how do you get into any game?

572
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: You know, you you you desire it, you want it,

573
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: and then you got to find willing participants, you know.

574
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: So I had these girls that were thieves and stuff,

575
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: and I was trying to turn them out into being hosed,

576
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: but they was like they were resisting. And ship, I mean,

577
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: I had I had some crazy story. I took one story.

578
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: I told him one of the movies was me and

579
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: my partner Gary Barnette. We uh, we knocked and bra.

580
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: So they was hose from up north and stuff. So

581
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: we got on our ship. We and their pimp when

582
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: you say area, but these bitches was real prostitute, right,

583
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: so we want to be pimps. We're trying to get

584
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: out and well we figured that out, so we put yeah.

585
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: So we sent the broad so we like Gary tent

586
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: To brought to the casino. He riding behind her in

587
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: the car, trying to watch the bitch, and the dude

588
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: in the car sees it, starts whipping. The bitch asks

589
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: like you gotta nigga following me throughout the out the

590
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: motherfucking car. She getting the car, like Nigga, how long

591
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: have you been doing this? Like like I don't know.

592
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: So that night they get back to the hotel, Nigga's

593
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: go to sleep. They wake up the next day stole

594
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: his car. See the holes. The hose was smarter than

595
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: the players in that situation. So Pip is difficult, and

596
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: and I don't like a lot of stuff that I've

597
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: been through in my life. I don't promote it has

598
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: something to do. I just say it was something that

599
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: I've been through. I'm not able to promote anything all

600
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: all crime and all hustles are negative at the base

601
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: of them, you know. But you know, at the moment

602
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: you ever see Fargo, why quote that line? It seemed

603
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: like the right thing to do at the time. You know,

604
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: in my circumstances. What was around me, drug dealers, killers, gangsters.

605
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: I thought, well, ship, since I'm flying, I got long here,

606
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: maybe I should be working with these girls. But I

607
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: didn't make no fortune off of that. I made most

608
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: of my money robing jury stores. That was some noise

609
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: of Robin Jewry stories. That's what we did. An occasional

610
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: bank but that's what that's what my click, occasional bang.

611
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:38,560
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Speaker 1: Radio with Rapper and r N. And now I heard

620
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: a story. Oh you and ben Zeno having conflict. Yeah,

621
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: ben Zeno actually being on the West coast, and ben

622
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: Zino has described it as you having two hundred different

623
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: gang members with you. He said you could have actually

624
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: killed him there. Yeah, and you walked over now he

625
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: walked over to you. The thing of it is is

626
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: killing people is not that simple. I mean, do you

627
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: carry that with you foreverage? So you can't just you

628
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: know a lot of times, you know what was the beef,

629
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: even people dispatching, and you just choose not to do

630
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: you want to sleep with that on your head. That's

631
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: not my thing. You know, I'll protect myself and I'm

632
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna attack a person. So, um, what

633
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: happened was back during the cop killer days. We've had

634
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: cop killer songs, correct, But we were both far Warner Brothers.

635
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: But he was with a group called Mark Almighty Hour

636
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: or so. So what happened was when I pulled out

637
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: for Warner Brothers because the president was after me, and

638
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: ship got hot. Night ended up pomping pulling the source

639
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: magazine came down said Ice as a coward. He gave

640
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: in I'm like, how my coward to President Night States

641
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: is after me? This is real ship. Wait wait wait, wait, wait,

642
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: time on what you just said. So you just said

643
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: you just said the cop Color record. Yeah, got hot.

644
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: And then and then the president what was the bus

645
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: son of a bush? Was the son of a bush? Bush? Yeah? Yeah, yeah?

646
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: The bush was on my ass and so was dan

647
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Quail And they said they said they was after me.

648
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: They was like, yeah, they wanted my head, they wanted

649
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: Ali North, wanted to try me for sedition, which is

650
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: punishable by death. They was on my bumper. Yeah, they

651
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: was on my bumper for this song. Cock Colors was

652
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: a major situation. So you know, we pulled the record

653
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: off of Warner and all the rapping niggas had something

654
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: to say about it, like, oh you know giving in now.

655
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: Chuck Dee to this ground said, look, if y'all ain't

656
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: in the war, you shouldn't comment on the battles. You

657
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. This ship is real. Real

658
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: secret service pulled my daughter out of school and chaster

659
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: was I connected to paramilitary Oregan? They wanted to see

660
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: if I was really a threat. See this is Nori.

661
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: This is the problem. When the president says your name,

662
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: the deepest background check of your life happens instantly. They

663
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: know everything from your shoe side to your mother's blood type.

664
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: Why because this next question could be what do we

665
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: know about him? They can't be he's a rapper, like

666
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: this is this, this is this, this is this, this

667
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: is It happens instantly, so when that happens to you,

668
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: you feel it. To long story short, I'm going through

669
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: this bullshit. So Rso ben Zeno and them come out

670
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: and make some statement. Your iced teas a sucker because

671
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: he pulled and because he pulled that call, you mean

672
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: pulled the record cop Killer was on on the first

673
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Body Count album. I pulled cop Killer off and put

674
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: a record called Freedom of Speech. I did it because

675
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: I didn't want them to pigeonhole me. And in my

676
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: career right there, I got a lot of other ship.

677
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: I need to say. It's not just about this one song.

678
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: They were trying to take a nigga out New jack

679
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: City too, didn't happen because of that record. When I

680
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: said it was on my ship, it was it was

681
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: like you say, it was bigger than rap So Bengino

682
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: or whoever whatever spokesperson made this comment, Well you know

683
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was under siege. At that point,

684
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: I didn't need no rap niggas popping off like oh

685
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: this nigg is that in the third I'm like, you

686
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: don't really even know what's going on, right, So of

687
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: course nigg is in my circle. We knew who our

688
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: enemies were. We always keep nigga's abreast, so who was

689
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: out there? So they popped up on our charts like okay,

690
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: these niggas are And so I was popping off about

691
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: ice who woo this niggas popped you know, we know

692
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: who's you know, who may not be a friend. So

693
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: we were at an event and uh, there they were

694
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: and there I was, and niggas seen him before me.

695
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Nigga's like, yo, ain't that them niggas? And uh, I

696
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: won't pre internet? Yeah, and I he saw two hundred niggas.

697
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: I man, I don't know how many niggas I had,

698
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: but I was. I had the whole West coast with me,

699
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I had the whole West

700
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: coast with me. So I just walked up on him.

701
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man, whatever you niggas think I said

702
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: it did is all this Rob roys uncalled for. Man,

703
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: I did what I had to do and it didn't

704
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: affect y'all. Just all it is. Yeah, well and they

705
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: kind of like renigged. Yeah, we was mad, we was hard.

706
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: It was an interview. There was really no beef. It

707
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: was just a missing said. It was a miscommunicated how

708
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: to speak, and that's what real men do. That's what

709
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: real men do. So you know that was it. But

710
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: I want you to describe this cop Killer record because

711
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: you single handedly made the world pay attention to wrap

712
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: by this cop Killer record. Now, it wasn't now now

713
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: it's a record that these young brothers would love to praise.

714
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: But what made what? What? What? What? What made you

715
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: even think about make a great question record. We were

716
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: in the studio making you know, body count, and uh,

717
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: I was singing a song by a group called the

718
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Talking Heads called Psycho Killer. You go psycho Killers succeed.

719
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: So I'm singing that and my drummer, beat Master v

720
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: rest In Peace goes, we need a cop killer right now?

721
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: What you ain't had no beef for police? No, we

722
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: had police people. This is free Rodney King. You know

723
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: we know what the cops is doing before. Yeah, yeah,

724
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: so my niggas like yo, you know Vickers right there

725
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: on the front line. So he's like, yo, man, we

726
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: need a cop killer. You know, the cops rolled up

727
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: on such and such, they shot him, they dragged his

728
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: baby moms. You know, this will do lo ship. And

729
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: so I started thinking about it, and I said, yeah,

730
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: what if somebody snapped and this went on one after

731
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: the cops based on police brutality. And that's the hook

732
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: is cop killer is better you than me? Cop killer?

733
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: Police brutality. Cop killer. I know your family's grieving, Fuck them,

734
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: cop killer tonight we get even. And so it's it

735
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: was more about this guy who lost his mind based

736
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: around police brutality, which just recently happened. Now people actually

737
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: have started taking off on the cops. It took a

738
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: little while, but I predicted it. I wasn't promoting it.

739
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: I just I was singing the third you know, the

740
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: first person. I become different people in my records. That's

741
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: just part of the art. You know. I could sing.

742
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: It's like if I was a heroine attic and I've

743
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: never been on it, but I can sing and act

744
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: like it and give you the imagery of it. You

745
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: did so, But that scrutiny, it started from the President

746
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: the President said. They started with the Fraternal Order of

747
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Police out of Dallas Austin, Texas. They came after me

748
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: because during this they no, they just said that Warner

749
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: Brothers put out this inflammatory record and they should be

750
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: band and boycotted. And then Chaunton Hesson came out and

751
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: they just went on one. Because of the time, the

752
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 1: cops were under siege for doing the same ship they're

753
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: doing now. This was back then, so the best way

754
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: to take the heat off them is to attack somebody else.

755
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: So they picked me kind of like the Willie Horton thing.

756
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: They picked me as a target and so they came

757
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: down like, dude, I'm sitting at the house, let me

758
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: date myself. We were playing Techno Bowl that so I'm

759
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: playing Techno Bowl and Nigger comes one of my homies like, yo,

760
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: I this is on TV right now. The President it's

761
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: talking ship about you. Like what yo really for? Really?

762
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: We're like we changed the channel and the President and

763
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: Ice tick Niggas was like that you ever did one

764
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: of the O ships? Like oh, O ship? Like oh,

765
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: like we knew this was big, like al Qa and ship. Yeah,

766
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: And and then it just started to happen, you know,

767
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: you could feel him. You know that I got taxotted

768
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: it three times into two year period. Uh, I had

769
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: ice cream trucks sitting in front of my house in

770
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: the middle of the winter, you know, because they had

771
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: to really figure out was I trying to call people

772
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: the arms, which which I wasn't. It was just a record.

773
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: It was just a protest song. So you know, I

774
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: lived through that and I found out who my friends were.

775
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: You know, they don't care about hip hop. Hip Hop

776
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: can back you, but when hip hop back you, hip

777
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: hop is one big nigga. Just it's just one nigga.

778
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. How many rappers come to

779
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: your aid, that's just one niggad. You need someone outside

780
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: of hip hop the back if you get in trouble,

781
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: all the Rapid band together, we are all just one nigga. Now,

782
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: you you need maybe Quincy Jones, you know who's not

783
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: considered a nigga, you know, somebody but yeah, might still

784
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: be considered. But no, that's what they'll do when he

785
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: came if he came out and saying that, well, you

786
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: know he's a rapper, and they'll throw him in there

787
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: with the Yeah, you need someone outside, you know, Martin

788
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Scorsese or someone to coming back with your Tarantino in

789
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: the back. He's he went up against the college, someone

790
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: who's unexpected to back you. So anyway, I took the heat,

791
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: and you know, I wrote it out like you know,

792
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I didn't bring anybody else into it. I didn't say, hey,

793
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: this other rap group, of this rock group. I just

794
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: handled it myself the way I've been. You know, I

795
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: was raised by Jez and I I still adhere to

796
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: that code. You know, that's your drama. You deal with it,

797
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: you dig So I dealt with it, you know. And

798
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: if it wasn't, because I mean it was, you did

799
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: Uncle Luke, because if you first, then Uncle Luke and

800
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Uncle Luke, then death Row, the death roy n he

801
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: was the first what I'm saying that he dealt with

802
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: right right loose? Yeah, yeah, it was. The president was

803
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: on FBI. FBI was yeah. But then when they drop

804
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: death Row with Ted Turner because they were concerned it

805
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: was it was a ripple effect. Dion Warwick was involved

806
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: in all these people. Yeah, and the Lori's tuck up.

807
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: Let me give you a jewel. Though it's not hip

808
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: hop that they we're afraid of. They were afraid the

809
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: fact that white kids were getting this information. It's like,

810
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: as long as you sing to the hood, no one

811
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: really cares because they already say we won, big nigger.

812
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: But once we express it and they see their little

813
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: daughters just walking around for the police and cock Killer,

814
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: and then now you're infecting the rest of the world,

815
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: and that's when you become a threat. So that's when

816
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: when they saw me have you know, thousands of white

817
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: kids yelling police with me, they were like, we gotta

818
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: deal with this cat, right because he's infected. That's why

819
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: one of my alms was called home invasion, because it

820
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: was me saying, you know, we've invaded your kids. You

821
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: know we're in there. You gotta respective on cops. And

822
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: now that you play one wait wait that Yeah, I've

823
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: got going there, Charlie, I got I gotta gotta mention

824
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: it to my manner. Yes, let's say, great interview. Let's

825
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: interview that I like good questions. You know you're doing

826
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: interview in the niggas and you dun't question you alright,

827
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: how long have you been in the NBA? What are

828
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: you talking about? So now, The Cop Killer, one of

829
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: my favorite records of all time still to this day,

830
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: is created. I still want to create. I actually think

831
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: I created this record over but I didn't do it

832
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: justice you did it, goes I am. If y'all know

833
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: the record, If you're real hip hop, man, I open

834
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: another bottom. We already got the bottles open. Come over here,

835
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: come over, you're the bar. But lax, relax, that's right there.

836
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I want everybody, if you real hip hop, to sing along,

837
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: help me sing along. I am a nightmare walking psychopath

838
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: talking yo yo from when what was the movie Let

839
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: me let me right before? Was that was that inspired?

840
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Or before the movie? Did you already know? You say?

841
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: Let let me take it to where it was going

842
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: to where I was going. I hadn't heard of California

843
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: at this time. What year it was? Colors? Can you

844
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: google it? Has I wanna be that's gonna be like

845
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: ninety two? I think you got But I had heard

846
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: of California. We had, we had, we had, we had.

847
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: You know, we're all off. I'm not visions of California,

848
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: but this is the first time, in my opinion, this

849
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: is the original California Love Colors. And when I heard that,

850
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: when I sink the movie, I had no idea that

851
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: was popping off? Right, What the funk was going on

852
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: in the West Coast, oh I used to see was beaches, right, Yeah,

853
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: I had no idea you could get killed in California

854
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: until Colors, like I had. I knew about killer, but

855
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: I was just like, I didn't know what colors were

856
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: before color. Colors was colors before I thought, yea, Colors.

857
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: What happened with Colors was they was doing this movie

858
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: called Colors. Dennis Hopper was directing it, and apparently they

859
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a Warner Brothers film. And due

860
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: to the fact it was Warner Brothers film, I was

861
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: the first rappers signed to Warner Brothers. So they're gonna,

862
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: of course look at my music first. So they had

863
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: they wanted to use a song I did call Squeeze

864
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: the Trigger off my first album, and the movie was

865
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: already done. You got a movie, Stiff, so they got that.

866
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: They got they got this scene with Don Cheeto in it,

867
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, Rocket, and he was listening to my songs.

868
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, let me if you want to

869
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: if you want to use my song, let me see

870
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: the movie. So I got to see the movie. So

871
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the movie, I'm like, Okay, there's some

872
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: wrong ship in it because at the time the Blacks

873
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: wasn't fighting the Mexicans. You know, there was some other stuff.

874
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: But I'm like, it still kind of gives you an overall,

875
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, the most real ship is when you see

876
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: the hanking in the county with thirty eight hundred and

877
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: the crypts and the bloods across with the fence. Yeah,

878
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: it was powerful, but they never let that main niggas

879
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: out at the same time. But s again, there's a

880
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: scene where you see them and coming at the crypt

881
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: module and you see the crypt module on one side

882
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: and the Blood module and they're in that year. But no,

883
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: they never let that many people out. And also in jail,

884
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: you don't wear all the colors like that, you know,

885
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: so they let them in jail. You're in a uniform

886
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: by this, but they showed it like that to kind

887
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: of you know. So I'm sitting there so I'm like,

888
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna critique that out. I'm happy they're making

889
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: a movie now. When they wanted to do the movie,

890
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: first they said let's shoot it in Chicago, and then

891
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: Dennis Hopperson, let's shot it in l a the people said,

892
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: we have gangs in l A, that it would have

893
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: been about Chicago. Well they did. They wanted to make

894
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: a movie about gangs, but they didn't know there were

895
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: games in l A. That year, three hundred and sixty

896
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: kids had died, almost one a day in l A.

897
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: But no one even it wasn't spoken. It's like black

898
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: lives matter, No one talks about us. We're just getting killed.

899
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: So so I'm like, okay. So I watched the movie.

900
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: So I said, do they have a title song? And

901
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: they had a song, and if you want to track

902
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: the movement, get the color soundtrack. B side last record

903
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: is a song by Rick James called Colors. It's whack.

904
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: It's like Rick James, look at all these colors. You know,

905
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: Rick James out. So I'm like, no, I can't funk.

906
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: So I told Africa Islam, who was produced me at

907
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: the time, I said, let's make a record. I said,

908
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: I know this gang ship like the back of my hand.

909
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean, let's take him in the brain of a

910
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: gang banger. So at the time I was vibing here's

911
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: another something you never know. I was vibing off a

912
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: King's son's record. Methological mythological meth metholot. Remember he comes

913
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: on when I get ill, it's a reason because it

914
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: duck season. Why I am a nightmare walking psychopath talking's mythlage.

915
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: I think, rapp we in, you're influencing each other. You're

916
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: not biting because you never knew. But I'm like, yo,

917
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm coming in like King's son because he said when

918
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: I get ill, it's a reason because it's duck season.

919
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: Hunter of the front of you know, I like that

920
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: ship is just came in. I am a nightmare walking psycho.

921
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: Same ship. So I wrote the song, did the video.

922
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: It was so big. People thought I was in the

923
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: movie People walking to me, like y'all saw you in college. Yeah,

924
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: in the movie, And I saw the movie so many times.

925
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: But now that movie, the song might be bigger. That

926
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: movie was single handley the introduction to California lifestyle and

927
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: put me in the game. Because all my other records,

928
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: I was still bubbling. But that was a national hit.

929
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean that crossed all and that, and everybody wanted

930
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: to see the guy that make colors. So I went

931
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: out on the Dope Champ tour with Eric B and

932
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: rock Him, Douggie Fresh Kumo du Bis Marquee uh and

933
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: and I was out there with them. I was the

934
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: only West West Coast crazy performed that song and that

935
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: we shut him down. And you know, it's funny because

936
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: Eric b and then was kind of like, you know,

937
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: l A Niggers. They had that New York ship going

938
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: and they you know, they had to change and Supreme

939
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: uh Matt Mathematics Great Magnetic was out there from this

940
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: sept becomes Brooklyn. So we got we My intel had

941
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: told me, you know, I've got my own intel. I'm

942
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: like the CIA that like, Okay, he's the one watched him.

943
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: He's a shooter. I don't walk Intore, I don't walk

944
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: I know what's going on. So they was like, okay,

945
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: this one's live and it's one right there and he's cool.

946
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: So they was looking at us. They had no idea

947
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: who we were, and we showed up. They were like, oh,

948
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: these are l A gang members, Like it's crazy. We

949
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: had all that. We had just the same ship they had,

950
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: but the West Coast version of it. And when I

951
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: hit the scene, I came out and I opened with

952
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: Colors on the tour and this ship rocked like I

953
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: just came out that the whole stadium, and they and

954
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: all of a sudden caress one started talking to me.

955
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: Everybody on the tour realized that I was pulling my

956
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: mother right out, and we all became close friends when

957
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: I came into our friends today, But they were sized

958
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: me about the gate. No, but did you understand that Colors?

959
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: And in a way like right now, you can look

960
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: at you going to the hall im and I'm sure

961
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: because you live in New York for real, right Like,

962
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: you're not a fake guy who just business New York,

963
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: New York Jersey. You're around, You've been around at places

964
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: I'll be at. I'm like, dad, Yeah, So did you

965
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: ever think that from Colors that New York would be

966
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: gang banging the way New York is? I still don't

967
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: truly understand it, Like I roll with Tretch a lot,

968
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: right and treach Bloods over and orgy with the bloods.

969
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, I can't really get it, totally understand it.

970
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: But one thing I do understand is respect a nigger

971
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: with a gun. You know. You know I'm gonna walk

972
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: up to a nigga said, well, you're a fake gang banger.

973
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, it's a fake bullet to take this,

974
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, so I don't know, you know, when when

975
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: you're from l A and you hear guys in other

976
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: cities saying their hoover crips but they've never seen the street,

977
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: or they're you know, you know whatever. You know, they're sixty,

978
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: but they're from Florida. So I'm like, how how is

979
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: that possible? Because sixties is a street and all of

980
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: them thirties and the streets the forties or a street

981
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: h s eighty third Street's usually the hottest street in

982
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: that ten block radius. Is a street that gets named

983
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: like one, eleven and twelve. Oh so so you know,

984
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: I learned, but I know how it happened. What happened

985
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: was when the drug trade really hit and it stopped

986
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: coming through Florida, it started to come through Mexico. I

987
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: should I even tell this story. Nobody listens to and

988
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: this is old game. But what happened was the coke

989
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 1: became less expensive in California, and as it moved across

990
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: the country, it became instantly like a key with double

991
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: So everybody in l A was trying to put the

992
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: game on the road. So you got a cousin in Seattle, right,

993
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: So you send a couple of homies up to Seattle

994
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: and you say, Okay, at this point, y'all niggas playboy

995
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: gangster crips because that's where set we from. And these

996
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: niggas are from Seattle and they don't really know about it.

997
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: But then there's some real and we take these niggas

998
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: and get them khakis and ship like that. Then maybe

999
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: you might send the nigga from l A to put

1000
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: some work in. They ain't never seen violence like that before,

1001
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, they turned out and they move and wait,

1002
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: and this happens all over the country, niggas coming in

1003
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: from St. Louis. So there's somebody from l A that

1004
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: took that gang out there. Now are they respected in

1005
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: l A well to an extent? But you can't come.

1006
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're from whatever, Wyoming or whatever.

1007
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: And you come to l A and you actually in

1008
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: Hoover's Hood and you claiming Hoover, you're gonna bow down

1009
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: that street, that actual street, the niggas on that block,

1010
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: that's the gs. So I I you know, I I

1011
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: I was up in Harlem and I met some bloods, right,

1012
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: So I was like, they're like, yeah, nigga, I used

1013
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: were blood. So I'm like like that. I said, okay,

1014
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: like that he said you was a crip right, and

1015
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: they're like yeah, it was cool. I'm like, well, you

1016
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: ain't cool with me, you know, like if is really banging, right,

1017
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: I said, well, gang banging is an act of murder.

1018
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: So then they was like they was like, I said,

1019
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: somebody ship show me a blood sign. So they did

1020
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: like this. I was like, turn it upside down. I said,

1021
00:56:53,719 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: that's a blood sign too. They were excited. They were like, yeah, okay,

1022
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: so he definitely be I just turned it upside that's

1023
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: a blood sign. Like I'm giving him gang tutoring. They

1024
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: were like thank you, Like like I was like, man,

1025
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: but nobody that comes from that wants it to happen.

1026
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: The gang thing happened we were young kids was out

1027
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: there were protect in the neighborhood, and it got taken

1028
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: out of control once the drugs came in. Once the

1029
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: drugs came in, its split into little sets. So now

1030
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: crypt is fighting crips blood and Nikki's don't care what color.

1031
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: So you're saying back then, crips wasn't fighting Chris because

1032
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: it seems like crips always have be for crips. No no, no,

1033
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: no no no. If he was a crip, was but

1034
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: now it sets. The sets just splinter. They splinter. So say,

1035
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: for instance, we all won crip set and then you

1036
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: got the sack and you, like nigga, we the norriy crips.

1037
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: Now we us for this splinter. That's what happened, he said,

1038
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: because the price of the drugs went down, like when

1039
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: Escobar went down and it all started going through Mexico.

1040
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: The creed it's creating, it's just greed. It's like, yeah, yeah,

1041
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: the trade came to l A, but greed, greed, it's

1042
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: just you. He's the boss. You start counting his money.

1043
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: As soon as the A side nigga starts counting the

1044
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: boss's money, you have the potential for deceit and you

1045
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: think it happened. So you always telling me, man, nor

1046
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: he's making a little bit too much money. You why

1047
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: are you counting the boss's money? Man? Why are you

1048
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: worried about what he's making? And eventually you're gonna say, man,

1049
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: let's go this way, and that happens. And in any

1050
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: type of organism, gang culture, let me ask you a

1051
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: question and gang culture. Can there ever be one leader

1052
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: or no? Yeah, the leader of each set. I wrote

1053
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: what the dude named Tony Bogard, who was uh the

1054
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: leader of Imperial Courts of the p J. Watts Crips,

1055
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 1: which is a whole project. And I've seen him walk

1056
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: into a like a wrecked room, a room and hatting.

1057
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: I've seen a hunter niggers stand up and like when

1058
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: he get quiet until he came in and they sat down.

1059
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that was a g but they killed him. Wow,

1060
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: you know he's on. I mean, you know the thing

1061
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: about gang membership is thinking about crime period is everyone

1062
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: is a liar, a cheater, a thief, a double ca

1063
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you're dealing with a group of bandits. You think,

1064
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: so anything could happen. You know, you hope there's loyalty

1065
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: inside of it, but you're dealing a bunch of murderers.

1066
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: Everyone is cold blooded, you know, to your your ideas

1067
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: to get the funk out of there as soon as possible.

1068
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: And you know that's why I'm square as a pool

1069
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: table twice as green. I wouldn't steal a nickel off

1070
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: the mantel peach. I'm not really, I'm not really you know,

1071
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm fortunate I lived through it, but it's not what

1072
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm about no more. I don't want to live like that. Man.

1073
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: That's just crazy. Now, Ice, you survive the aw the

1074
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: scrutiny from the Copkiller record. You you you you? You

1075
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: pull out the Colors record of Color record, bring you everywhere?

1076
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: Now where is Ice at? When he hears end Way

1077
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: the ball release us that when well I knew, you know,

1078
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: I knew end up Way because n w A used

1079
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: to open for me. We used to go out, Yeah

1080
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: you just said that, mad nonchal lotly and I had

1081
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: to be around Colors too as well, you're gonna do cute,

1082
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: they'll take out n w A. We would all tour together,

1083
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: would be n w A iced T D O C.

1084
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: And then when Easy put out his record, they split

1085
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: it and they tried to, you know, do Easy with

1086
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: another group and we would all go all over the

1087
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: place together. We used to fight together. We used to

1088
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: get out there and get it gone because we were

1089
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: West Coast, you know, Cuban mayor life brothers. I love

1090
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: Cube like we we're close. I used to um when

1091
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: they came out with the police, we was out there wrapping.

1092
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: We're out there rapping and they hit him in the

1093
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: head with that. I'm like, oh, ship, but see, I

1094
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: always see the first time you heard it was on

1095
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: tour though, Yeah, because easy And they were playing it

1096
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: before they dropped it, so I heard it on the radio.

1097
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, y'all is about to go there? Because

1098
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: I used to say I used to say fun the

1099
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: police on my shows, right, so I don't. When I

1100
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: would before I would do six in the morning, I

1101
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: would go out and I would say, Yo, the police

1102
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: told me I can't do this song right. And then

1103
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: I would like, get the audience pipped up and I

1104
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I say fuck the police, and the

1105
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: crowd went crazy. So maybe a little light went off

1106
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: an Easy Heads like I have something right here. But

1107
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 1: I used to say, I say I had an echo.

1108
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: I said, my name is I iced T. I gotta

1109
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: rep like a killer killer. No one gets Wilder, no

1110
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: one gets illa Ella. I don't get high. I don't

1111
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: drink Miller Miller. But if your girl's empty, I'm sure

1112
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: I can fill it. Filler. I make stupid ass records

1113
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: because I just don't care. Motherfucker's can't even play my

1114
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: Ship on the air. But y'all know you like it,

1115
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: you say you want more, because every time I leave

1116
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: the crib to go to the store, I hear six

1117
01:01:45,680 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: in the mooning police at my door. Four Like I was,

1118
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: like I was, I was. I was with them at

1119
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: the time, and you know, it was, it was. It

1120
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: was a movement, and I always knew and to me, honestly,

1121
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: n w A I needed in w A because I

1122
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: was by myself and the half four more cats rolling.

1123
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, we weren't enemy. So it's like, and

1124
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, now they would always hit harder than me

1125
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: because I'm one rapper versus a gang of motherfucker's rapping

1126
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: and it sounds better when people are spitting on top

1127
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: of each other. But and then they wrote some incredible records.

1128
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: Then they had the neighborhood. No no, no, they're from

1129
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: different areas. Cubans from a hundred and twentieth Street. I'm

1130
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: from the forties. And like so I knew dub C.

1131
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: Dub C used to be beat box for Clientele, who

1132
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: was in the Wrecking Group. So but that's the thing.

1133
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: L A is a small tree, like you guys hip hop, Oh,

1134
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: here's a big tree. Everything in l A is either

1135
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: n w A and who they became, the syndicate, my

1136
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: crew and who they became, which included Cypress Hill which

1137
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: crews ever Last when Crew does pain and in Laddin

1138
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: them or a few groups who weren't Delicious Final, which

1139
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: was Tone Logan Young MC. So if there's beef in

1140
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: l A, you can call me Que Snoop, you know,

1141
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: and shut it down, because there's only it's everyone that

1142
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: comes up from under us. So that's why the only

1143
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: time there was ever be from the West Coast was

1144
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: family feud when they fought and everybody just had to

1145
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: step back because I'm gonna get between Easy and Que

1146
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: when I know, you know, it's a family fuse. So

1147
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: when the police came out, did you know exactly what

1148
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: they was gonna go through at the night. I had

1149
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: no idea because because you were the first, we were

1150
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: hardcore wrap though they weren't really fucking with us like that.

1151
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: I didn't have no idea that the police would intervene.

1152
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: I had no idea they were actually going through the

1153
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: body counting yet. Yeah, after we were going through cursing ship.

1154
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: It's after came out first. Yeah, Yeah, I got my

1155
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: history funt a cop killer came off. No, no, no,

1156
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,479
Speaker 1: Cop Killer didn't come out to uh body count didn't

1157
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: come out to the O g out now, So that

1158
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: was later. But they did it first and we were

1159
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: already getting in trouble for cursing. This is how bullshit

1160
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: shows at shows. Remember this is the loop thing. And

1161
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: if you if you curse, we're gonna arrest you. That

1162
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: was you can't curse. So they would show up at

1163
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: the shows and show us that ship, and then what

1164
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: we would do is we would do the show and

1165
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: the cops would be on the side and they used

1166
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: to shut the lights off and I would jump off

1167
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: into the pit and run out the side like so

1168
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 1: we would run from the cops and then we would

1169
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: get the tour bus and we would get to the

1170
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: next stage. He really paved the way for us. That's

1171
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: just one of the total perspective when the person says

1172
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: it like that. Because Luke said it, and I thought

1173
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: Luke was being bad. I didn't know who was being

1174
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: bad for cursing. I thought it was being bad for

1175
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: being vulgar. Cursing in the Bible belt when you're down there.

1176
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: That's yeah, they were UNTI that they would show up

1177
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: at the show with a piece of paper that says,

1178
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: if you curse, we will shut the show. That and

1179
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: that was my my queue to go harder, like, yo,

1180
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: funk that. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna come

1181
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: out here. And I would always say the police on me,

1182
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: and you know that just got the ship even more

1183
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: crazy and stuff like that. But but but my whole

1184
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: thing was I had already been breaking the law, right

1185
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: so whatever this charge was was nothing. I was like,

1186
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 1: compared to what I was doing. I'm going to jail

1187
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: for talking kids my motherfucking let's go, you know. And

1188
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: I had money, and I'm like Luke Bell, I mean,

1189
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: i knew it was a petty charge, So I'm like,

1190
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, so that that was that. We used to

1191
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: run from the police a lot weak. I remember we

1192
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 1: had a big gass fight we had. We had lots

1193
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: of fights out there on the road. We because when

1194
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: we would come to towns, they would they want to

1195
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: test you remember the big nigs that yoke Easy come

1196
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: here Easy, like they wanted to see Easy, like you know,

1197
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: so Easy was small, so he wouldn't want to really

1198
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: just I'm always like, take me to your leader type nigger.

1199
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm six ft tall. I'm like, let's go. We can

1200
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: go a couple of rounds. M up in this bitch,

1201
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: let's go. So I never really felt I had no

1202
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: problem with street niggas. When I got to Detroit, I'm like,

1203
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: take me to your leader. Let me see who the

1204
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: toughest nigg is. I'll befriend him. And I'm good. I'm

1205
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: not here. I'm here to entertain you anyway. I'm not

1206
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: your enemy. I'm not here to sell your drugs to

1207
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: take it block which which like you need some backstage

1208
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: passes and see the ball came up. Now we're good. Yeah,

1209
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: we're good. Good, Now I got security. You know. That's

1210
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: how I played it everywhere. And it's like quick said,

1211
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: quick said everywhere. It's like remember the joint if you're smart,

1212
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: if you know, I mean the same thing you're do

1213
01:06:54,680 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: in prison. Like ship. Just so before we get into that,

1214
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 1: how did I iced t wind up in the army.

1215
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: I got in the army because when I was in

1216
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: high school, I got my girlfriend pregnant. I was I

1217
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: just got out of high school, and uh, I graduated early.

1218
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: I was a student. I was on the honor roll

1219
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: all that ship. I graduated twenty week report card. I

1220
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: was out. I had all my credits and I started

1221
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: trade technical college. I wanted to do by I can

1222
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: paint cars, I can do all kinds of body and

1223
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: fender and all that kind of ship. That was what

1224
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna do, the pixelow Riders. I

1225
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: was into cars. I always been in the cars. And

1226
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: I got my girl pregnant because I didn't really know

1227
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: how easy was to get a girl pregnant. You know.

1228
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: I was just like a young girl, was not stopped.

1229
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting that much pussy up to that point.

1230
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't know. So I got a pregnant and I was

1231
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: like fox, and now I got a baby coming. And

1232
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm a small time hustler, you know, doing small bullshit,

1233
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, stealing car radios, nothing, drugs, didn't coming to

1234
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: nothing that nothing had come up that was gonna make

1235
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: me rich. And I was also very athletic. I was

1236
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: in gymnastics in high school. I was doing you know,

1237
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: parallel bars, crunch y'all, high scuct Yeah, so I was strong.

1238
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: I was very strong. So I I They had an

1239
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: enlisting office on crunch yall, and I just walked in

1240
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: there and I was like, you know, I got to

1241
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: get out of the game because I got a kid.

1242
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: And so I went in there and I just basically

1243
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: was picking uniforms. I was like, well, what's that, nigga,

1244
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: that's infantry. You get twenty five hundred dollar bonus. I'm like,

1245
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: word okay. And he said that red beret, that's airborne,

1246
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: you get another hundred. I was like, but I can't

1247
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: come home in the Red Bay. You didn't I couldn't

1248
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: wear no red I was like yo. So then I

1249
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: said the next one was the black bearret, which was

1250
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 1: the Rangers. I like that because I was like the

1251
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: Black Panthers, right, and then the next one was Special

1252
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: Forces to Green Bret. But that was fifty two weeks

1253
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: of basic or a I T. So he was about

1254
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: to join the army and they tried to offer you

1255
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: ahead to when I when I went in here, when well,

1256
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: when I went in there, I was picking uniforms. I

1257
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: just was like, what am I gonna look like? And

1258
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: then it's like, well, this is regular infantry, this this,

1259
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: uh this right here. If you go you know, airborne,

1260
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: you get to wear a red beret. And I was like,

1261
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: I can't come home the Red beret. You did what

1262
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was like, I can't come to my neighborhood. Okay, yeah,

1263
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: so that's what it was. So then I had a

1264
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,839
Speaker 1: black beret and Green beret, so I picked the black beret.

1265
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: And uh, basically, it's just a bunch of train and

1266
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: bunch of athletic ship. If you long as you have

1267
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: a good cardio, you could do it, you know, but

1268
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: you just gotta be disciplined. You gotta get used to

1269
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: people yelling in your face and kind of humble. Rangers

1270
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: is kind of tough. Yeah, yeah, well, you know, if

1271
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: he was an armed you know, it's specimental ship. They're

1272
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna yell at you. They're gonna try to funk you

1273
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: up mentally. But then you gotta, you know, you deal

1274
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: with how did you how did how did you did

1275
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: you do? Accept the discipline they so you know the

1276
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, like in that movie Officer and a gentleman

1277
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: with a man said, why are you here? He says,

1278
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: I ain't got nowhere else to go. That's the only

1279
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: way you're gonna make it through that training. And you

1280
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: have to believe you have no options. You can't. It's

1281
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: not something you just say, I just think I wanted you.

1282
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: You gotta be like, what if my other option? I

1283
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 1: gotta do this, and so, you know, the training was

1284
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: exciting to me, and the athletic part was exciting to me.

1285
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: The discipline stuff, I realized they was trying to mind

1286
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: for me. So I've worked against that and I just

1287
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: knocked it out. But you know, somebody cool, It's just

1288
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: some Do you feel that any of those skills you

1289
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: learned in the military helped you when I started robbing banks? Yeah?

1290
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: When I started up? Yeah, yeah, Well when I came

1291
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: home the tussle water from my there from the service,

1292
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: because I went to the Service right out of high school.

1293
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: Service and country. Did you started robbing country? Well, it

1294
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: was my country driving. Hello, Yo, you're live on the

1295
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: podcast with Iced Tea. It's cop. Yeah, what's up? What's up?

1296
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: Component I asked about you? Yeah, I told him. Hey, listen, Hey, listen, listen, listen. Hello,

1297
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: Are you're gonna be around? I'm gonna be here. This

1298
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: conversation might go all night, you know. Well, they're going in.

1299
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: We're just getting halfway at the halfway point. Baby, Well,

1300
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: were you at man? Hey, I'm closed, I'm not far.

1301
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm not far he knows his birthday, Happy birthday, every

1302
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: celebration birthday. All right here, I'll leave you going for

1303
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: this this interview, yse team, we'll hit you back a

1304
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: yel with the you you a one off. That's funny.

1305
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: Wh niggas be on the talking on the phone and

1306
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: maybe with our kids. I don't know. Said talk that

1307
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: ship way better than you. Hear what I said. When

1308
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: niggas be on the phone and maybe wi our kids

1309
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: out of I take the fence, talk that ship way better.

1310
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: Better they break that ship down. Say it's better talk

1311
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: regular if you're not doing that much because the fence.

1312
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 1: But whatever, Oh my god, oh my god, hold on,

1313
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: that was the yem. That was the straight fucker. Just now,

1314
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: that's not good, Chap. I didn't I thought, I thought.

1315
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: I thought you helped me out. I think my print

1316
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: that both for no reason. So what we were talking about,

1317
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, talking about robbing ship the bank robbers at

1318
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: my bank robbery this two ways the bank after trying

1319
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: to do it right. Come just so you know, I

1320
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: t we praised foul niggers and allay the drink. All right, yourself,

1321
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 1: you're like the foul nigger president. You got out of

1322
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: the harmy to do the right thing. But now when

1323
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: I got home. When I when I left, my my

1324
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: niggas was small time criminals. When I came home, they

1325
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: had elevated their games. So I'm like, so what are

1326
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: y'all doing? They said, we robbed jewelry stores, were getting

1327
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: check cash from boots, We're getting credit unions, you know,

1328
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: occasional banks. You know what I'm saying. That's like that

1329
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: like the bank. So I was like, so, what what's

1330
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: to get down? I do to the fact I had

1331
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: all that military training, I was able to up the

1332
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: game up and I told him, you know, basically any

1333
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: operation deals with intelligence. The more you know about the mark,

1334
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: the better. So I added that to the game, like

1335
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: lots of heavy duty case and lots of understanding what

1336
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: the alarms and the response times was and stuff. So

1337
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there's lots of ways of doing it.

1338
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: There's there's what's called like what jewelry. There's just basic

1339
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: snatch and grab where you just walk in and get

1340
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: watch and run. There's basically the bash where you knock

1341
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: out the glass and stuff. Then you've got the burglary,

1342
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: which is the four or five nine but if you're

1343
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: going for the safe. Now, see I could give up

1344
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: some game I got. Well, if you want to hit it,

1345
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: if I fuck it, it wasn't a burglary. If you're

1346
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: gonna rob a jury store, Robert, at the time it

1347
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: opens or the time it closes, why why because it's

1348
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: safe so right in the morning. So what you wanna

1349
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: do is you want to get there right when they

1350
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: let pulling the ship out of the safe, right when

1351
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: they're pulling that That was when So once when you

1352
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: see a jury store at night, when they close that

1353
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: door at the last minute, and they started, and if

1354
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: you really wanted time and let them lay the plaques up,

1355
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: let them get everything out up out of the wind.

1356
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: Don't let them do it for you so that everything

1357
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: is stacked right before it's getting ready going to say,

1358
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: that's when you want to hit them. And then you

1359
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 1: know we're not gonna give you the step by step details.

1360
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: And also bottom line is anything you do, you got

1361
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: to do it backwards, so it's not as it's not

1362
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: as important. Where the lick is is where you're gonna

1363
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: escape too, and that has to be like a maze

1364
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: of how you're gonna get away. A lot of you

1365
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 1: don't just do it and then say, now where do

1366
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: we run this? All that is all thought out one way,

1367
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: whether you know we use motorcycles on one way streets,

1368
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: I could, I could take a motorcycle. I can hit

1369
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: the jewelry district over here and put a bike and

1370
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: all all I'm gonna do is hit one way streets backwards, right,

1371
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: so they can't get But then do they got helicopters

1372
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: under the ground, Like if you know the best way

1373
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: to get away from a high speed chases take them

1374
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: into a parking structure, not out on the street. Of

1375
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: parking structure where now the cops gotta stay outside. They

1376
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: can only come in one Then you can ditch the

1377
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: car and you can go through the steps. And yeah,

1378
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: so all this stuff is ship I did for years anyway,

1379
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: and and and you're gonna end up getting killed or

1380
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 1: murdered at some point because but yeah, I done it,

1381
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: and uh whatever, bankrop bankropt rest anybody. But the thing

1382
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: of it is, most of the times just two ways.

1383
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: You rabbit bank, you play a note, you play a teller,

1384
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: you go for the vault. What you saw in the

1385
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: heat is a takeover roeri where they would take the

1386
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: whole vaull that. That's a lot of exposure. I was.

1387
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: I was around cast and went in the vault and

1388
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But you gotta you're gonna be in

1389
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: there a long time. You know. Most times people just

1390
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: walk up and play the note and just get the

1391
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 1: one teller or as you said, a note. How did

1392
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: you do the note? You just walk up and you

1393
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: just said I got a gun, give me the money,

1394
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: and then just hand you the mother for the money.

1395
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 1: That's called playing a note. That's an easy that's the

1396
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: these way say it doesn't matter the thing that well,

1397
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: that's that's that's those are impacts and stuff. They still

1398
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 1: got them. Yeah, I'm yeah, but you know what, at

1399
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I feel very uncomfortable talking

1400
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: about this stuff. You know, well the thing of it

1401
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: is like and also I also like a lot of

1402
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: my friends are still incarcerated, so you know, from day

1403
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: and they're saying they didn't do it. Yeah I am

1404
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: saying we did it. You know that's not good, but

1405
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: but you know it's it was. It was a time

1406
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 1: and um, you know, uh, when I got that chance

1407
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: to wrap I jumped in it. I didn't you know,

1408
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: because I knew my days was numbered in low digits.

1409
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: I knew that that wasn't gonna last. When you're hustling

1410
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: like that, you make a lot of money, didn't you

1411
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: spend it? You make a lot of money, didn't you

1412
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: spend it? You know, you're up and down. You those

1413
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: are licks, you know, and you make it and you

1414
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: spend it, and it wasn't you know. I don't. I

1415
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: didn't see a long life like that. So when the

1416
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: rapping came along, I was like, damn, you know I

1417
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: could do this. And then I tried to rap like

1418
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: New York and the niggas was like, rap about what

1419
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: we do. And then we invent what we call the

1420
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: crime ryme Ryan based around that, and I got archives

1421
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: and archives of that ship. So I started making stories.

1422
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: And the stories, like I call it faction, So it's

1423
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: it's factual occurrences put into a fictional scenario. So things

1424
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, did that happen? Did that? Yeah? Really that happened,

1425
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: couldn't And I combine them so the story sounds really

1426
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: real because the ship really happened, but just not in

1427
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: that particular order. Now does that make any sense? He

1428
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: briefly mentioned I think it's we need to talk about

1429
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: a bit more rhyme syndicate, which might be one of

1430
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: the first cruise of hip hop. Maybe b DP and

1431
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: rhyme syndicates ron the same era, and who the members

1432
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: of nevertheless House of Pain, you know, House of Pain

1433
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: ever last, Yes, Um, what happened was, you know, when

1434
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: I was trying to when I decided I wanted to rap,

1435
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: I had to kind of like leave my crime friends

1436
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: a loan and get with these rap niggers, right something,

1437
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: with all these different rap people, and I would seem

1438
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: like I was gonna make it first. So I said

1439
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: to homies, I said, if I make it, I'm gonna

1440
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: try to help y'all. So I was reading up. I'm

1441
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: an avid reader, so I was reading it. You know,

1442
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: Lucky Luciano. It started this thing called the Commission, where

1443
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: it was a group of groups with one one common goal.

1444
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 1: A syndicate is an organization with a group of groups

1445
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 1: of one common goal. So basically, we're not I'm not

1446
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 1: the boss, you're the boss. You're the boss. You're the

1447
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: boss of your own organization network. But we agreed to

1448
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: sit down and talk before we fight, right, So that's

1449
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: what the Syndicate is, so I wasn't I. I just

1450
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: brought groups in. It's kind of like the West Coast

1451
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 1: Zulu Nation really kind of like. But I knew l

1452
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: A wasn't really gonna ride with the Afro century ship.

1453
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: There was two gangsters. So I created a term called

1454
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: the Syndicate and we had Low Profile was in it,

1455
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: which was dubbed c of course when we had when

1456
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: we had Muggs. Muggs was in the group called seven

1457
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: eight three. At the time he was a DJ and

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Speaker 1: of course Everlast, divine styler Donald d Uh from the

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01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: bronx Um where was ever less from where ever Last

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01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: from l A. He was like from the valley and

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01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: he had the hair at the time. Remember when he came.

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01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 1: He was brought to me by a guy named Balad

1463
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: to Sheer and Everlast first sounding like rock Kim when

1464
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: I heard him, he was rapping. Now new rappers were

1465
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: wrapping someone else's voice, and I'm like, A right, right,

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01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: you know yeah, And I'm like, you sound dope, but

1467
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 1: you got to use your own voice, you know. And

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01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: so once he found his own voice, he started to

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01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: wrapping stuff. But it was just my way of I

1470
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: got everlast a record deal. I got Divine Stylar record deal.

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01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: I did a compilation album. It was just a way

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01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: of me trying to help West Coast nigga, you know,

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01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: and and try to create peace versus more which is

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01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 1: not profitable. Education. Welcome to play a new podcast network

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 1: to drink Champs Radio with rapper and R and d J.

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Speaker 1: Then so now New Jack which is New York City Classic,

1479
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: but that is so disrespectful hip hop classic man relaxed,

1480
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: because that's how that's how much of vision Jack City

1481
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: leads to me. New Jack Cities not only a New

1482
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: York class. It's not only a hip hop class. It's

1483
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: not only it's a worldwide class cinematic. But I need

1484
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: to know you as being the most gangster risk gangster.

1485
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: You you you you had the sixties on your back

1486
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 1: when it wasn't cool to say the sixties. You had

1487
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 1: the cript ship on your back when it wasn't cool

1488
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: to say the cript ship. You had the gang ship

1489
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: on your back when it wasn't cool to say the ship.

1490
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: And now you get presented with this role as a

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01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: cop cop it's a joint court New Jack City, and

1492
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: they're saying that it's based on this guy was just

1493
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: not Nino Brown, because Nino Brown is a fatitition based

1494
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: on some cats from Vague from from um New York

1495
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: City and also somebody from the Bay from Frisco Brothers

1496
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: or something like that. I thought my brothers from New York.

1497
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: I met the actual guy that said he wasn't told

1498
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: me wait wait, wait, okay money Brothers. Yeah, I got that,

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01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: you're right, but how does they even approach you? Okay?

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01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 1: So what happened with New Jack City was they wanted

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01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: to make this movie and they had they had written

1502
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: the movie, and they didn't know who they were going

1503
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: to get. And at the time it was just not

1504
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: there just wasn't a lot of black actors. Now there's

1505
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: hundreds of black hackers. But at the time, Wesley Snipes

1506
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: had only done Major League. He was you know, he

1507
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: loved right, but that was he wasn't a big known actor.

1508
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: So Um, George Jackson and Dougman Henry, the the producers,

1509
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: they just had a brain from they said, let's just

1510
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: take people from pop culture. Ice is selling millions of records.

1511
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: He's a little, you know, kind of little pro protest

1512
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: pro that Let's get him. Let's get Chris Rock. He's

1513
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: the most grimy new solely, this took all the people

1514
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: that they knew they were hot and different, and so

1515
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: let's make a lot of us never knew who Chris

1516
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: Rock was. Let's let's describe. Let's see if they can act.

1517
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: So I'm in a club and Mario van people who

1518
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: was in the club and us, he says to me,

1519
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: he heard me and throw it off the roof. All right,

1520
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: he said he heard me in the toilet. I was

1521
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 1: talking ship to somebody in the bathroom and the toilet

1522
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: I was in the bathroom and I was on my ship.

1523
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: I was like saying, I say that. I said, yeah, nigger,

1524
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: if the motherfucker's could get a microscope and find one

1525
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: molecule and me that gave a fun, then they could

1526
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: angle me. But they can't angle me because it's not

1527
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: a molecule there that gives a fuck. So he said,

1528
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: whoever said that's gonna be the star in my movie. Right.

1529
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: So I was on this on my ice t ship.

1530
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 1: So I'm out there and now now I'm parlaying with

1531
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: three females talking my bullshit, you know, try and sell

1532
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: him a dream. So I'm in the middle of it

1533
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: and that he walks over says a ice, would you

1534
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: like to be in a movie? Something like Hollywood bullshit

1535
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: like Mario Mario. I'm like, Hollywood bullshit. You just people

1536
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: who don't know Mario around people's that was the main cop. Yeah. Yeah,

1537
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: and his father was in Sweet Sweet Back, badass song.

1538
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: He's achieved Melvin Van Peoples. So he hits me with

1539
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: this bullshit about being in the movie, something like nigger,

1540
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: You're just trying to talk to these girls, like you know,

1541
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: so I introduced them to the females. He's like, serious,

1542
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 1: show up at Warner Brothers tomorrow. We got this. So

1543
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: we changed numbers and you were already on Warner Brothers

1544
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: as a record. La. Everything revolves around Warner Brothers at

1545
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: the time. So I show up at this thing and

1546
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: I look at the script. I'm expecting I'm gonna get

1547
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: four or five lines. I read Scotty's part. I'm like, yo,

1548
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: this is the whole movie. Soun like really like I'm

1549
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: not actors that you can do it like this thinger

1550
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: got dreads like I gotta like like and they were like,

1551
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: and he's a cop. I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

1552
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I got home, I started talking

1553
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: to people, you know, I talked to my boys. I'm like, yo,

1554
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: they want me to play a police in the movie.

1555
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: Then what you think? Could I be in the movie? Ye? Yeah,

1556
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: nig from jail was calling me. I'm like, yo, yeah, blah, yeah, yeah,

1557
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: we sent the package and all that, but yeah, you know,

1558
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: I know, even the bows of the devil, I understand that.

1559
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: Then they wanted to play the police. Right now, what

1560
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? In the movie? Word? If

1561
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: I was out, could I be in the movie? So

1562
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: no one was saying no. Everybody was like, nigger, that's

1563
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: an opportunity positive. And then then the girls where I

1564
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: used to get my hair did? I used to get

1565
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 1: my hair done twice? A wee guy had my ship

1566
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: permed up, you know, more wavy than the ships in

1567
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: the navy. He knows, you know, we got to keep

1568
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: the shop and staking nice up. In this bit. What

1569
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I got our match. A motherfucking woman. She

1570
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 1: can understand what I'm saying. So I'm shot. So I

1571
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: was sharp, and the girls at the beauty parlor, they

1572
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm from the hood. I called the

1573
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: beauty parlor. I'm not no fucking salon. It was like

1574
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: I said, they wanted me to pill the police. They're like,

1575
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: you gotta do it, nigga, because you're gonna be one

1576
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: of the real niggas. And when you get over, you

1577
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna forget the hood, and you're gonna tell everybody

1578
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: what the fuss going on, nigga. And if you don't

1579
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: do this movie, don't come back up in this motherfucker right.

1580
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: So the sisters sent me out on that mission and

1581
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: I did the movie. I was shifting, nervous, But now

1582
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: that they know this, this this story took place in

1583
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 1: New York, didn't matter. It was just an opportunity. Opportunity,

1584
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: you know, Nory, I believe this man. We come from

1585
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: a background with no opportunities, and we always are, you know,

1586
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: upset about that. When you get an opportunity and you

1587
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: don't take it, then you're a real live sucker. You

1588
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You're a real live sucker because

1589
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: you're being you're bitching about it, and now you get

1590
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: it and you don't take it, and you gotta put

1591
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: the jets on when you get that opportunity, because you

1592
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 1: don't get you don't get it. So I got that opportunity,

1593
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: so we took it. I went and I tried my

1594
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: best to do the movie. I was nervous. This is

1595
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 1: at the same time Original Gangster came out. This is

1596
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: my biggest album. I was platinum. I was like, yo,

1597
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: like IM fuck this all off. But then you're not

1598
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: telling me you had a choice between going on to

1599
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: your album and do new Jackson was on tour at

1600
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: the time, but my album was hot, so I I

1601
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: knew jack City was can I risk this and then

1602
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: up my records? My record is hot? But but now,

1603
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: when you got the script, did they tell you the

1604
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: actors that was attached to it? They didn't. I didn't

1605
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: care about and I had a record Original Gangs that

1606
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: that was the last and ruined everything I got going

1607
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: and what my niggas accept me. I was worried. You know.

1608
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: I've always been more concerned with my friends, my close friends,

1609
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: whether they're in prison or home. That's been my thermometer

1610
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: on what if I'm doing what's right. I gotta keep

1611
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: their respect and my my niggas is straight niggas, and

1612
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: they loved the order. But I'm telling you, my I

1613
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: ain't corny nigga. They told me, Yo, the hustle is

1614
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: supposed to get the money by any means, by the

1615
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: path of least resistance, and and television has a lot

1616
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: less resistance than twenty five life nigga. So you do

1617
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: the right thing. Get that paper right, stop playing. Do

1618
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: your numbers? They so so now I'm where it was

1619
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: on New Jackson, New jack City. You were contemplating whether

1620
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: I was trying to play, whether to do it. I

1621
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: was struggling, But I did the damn movie and it

1622
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: was successful, and I was scared. Like they said, we're

1623
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: gonna put dreads on you because we want people not

1624
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: to just see iced tea. We want them to give

1625
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 1: him a chance for you to be another character if

1626
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 1: they're so familiar with how you throw them off. I

1627
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: remember I went to the movies, like after three days

1628
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 1: after came out. I was sitting behind some niggas and

1629
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: and I heard him look at with that motherfucker head

1630
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: on it look crazy, motherfucker in the movie, you ain't

1631
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: let people yelling because I'm like, yeah, you get it

1632
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: too right. I wanted to get a real response. And

1633
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: about about ten minutes into the movie, fifteen minutes I'm

1634
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: chasing Chris Rock, They're like, get it, Scotty. They started

1635
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: calling me Scotty name, and that was what it was like.

1636
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm pulling this ship, like they're

1637
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: rolling with me. Did The movie was a huge success.

1638
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 1: No negativity. Hip hop embraced me and everybody. You know,

1639
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 1: nobody even tripped off the cop thing. That was like,

1640
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: you acting, that's the job. And I've been rolling like

1641
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 1: that ever since, you know, like acting. So that was

1642
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: your first movie role that you fell in love with.

1643
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 1: On the first movie, I actually got to speak, you know,

1644
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: I was. I was in those other movies breaking back

1645
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 1: in the day. I was a feature rap talker. But

1646
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 1: then you then you get the call about to do

1647
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: a movie with Denzel Elliot Wilson uh stambul in New York.

1648
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: But you get the call that was my next movie,

1649
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: the Denzel movie. Yeah, from Joel Silver, one of the

1650
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: biggest producers in the history. He does Matrix. What was

1651
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: the name of this movie, Ricky Sha was with Denzel

1652
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 1: and because because this is the crazy Denzel is not

1653
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: Denzel's He's dead. He ain't got the zell yet. It

1654
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: just didn't. Yeah, and you do this movie, did you

1655
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: know that this motherfucker is going to be the illest

1656
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: actor in the world? And didn't? And when did you that?

1657
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 1: I knew he was? I mean to me, Denzel was

1658
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: heard Denzel prior to that. But I just knew Denzel

1659
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: watching it was the big was the biggest actor I

1660
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: ever worked with, you know. I remember I was just

1661
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: working with this new people. I'm working with Nelson on that. Denzel, well,

1662
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 1: I knew Jenn so I watched it was I was

1663
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: because Wesley wasn't really big. When women were loving Denzel,

1664
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: that's that was his ship. He was the pill. He's

1665
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: like billyde Williams. Yeah, yeah, he was. So when I

1666
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: met Denzel, he just he came down to my level.

1667
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: He was like, look, man, I've been on television, I

1668
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: did this, and I'm just here and we're just getting

1669
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: ready to go do this and I rever forget. I

1670
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: was in the first scene with him, and uh, you know,

1671
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: these really good actors they'll laugh and joke and they

1672
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: go action and they're bam, they'll hit their character. Method

1673
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 1: acting No, that's not method. Method acting is women at

1674
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: their dickheads. Yeah. I was on the upset with a

1675
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: method actor and I called him his real name, and

1676
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 1: I'm Joe, like like when it's crazy, they won't person,

1677
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: they won't break. They're playing a drug addict. They're gonna

1678
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: go out and sleep with real drug addicts and come

1679
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: to work dirty and all that bull That acting is lying.

1680
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Acting is line Like if I if I said the

1681
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: next person who comes in the door, make him convince

1682
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: him you're my manager, that's acting, right. So they said

1683
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: where you learn how to act? I'm like, stand in

1684
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: front of a josh. I mean, Denzel was talking and

1685
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: he was joking and then they said action and then

1686
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: they get jumped into character on me and I flopped

1687
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:30,560
Speaker 1: my line and they did like this. He was like,

1688
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 1: come on, nice, what's it? And I was like, oh,

1689
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: that's how we're getting down, huh. Like he's shown me

1690
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 1: like come on, like we can we joke. I'm gonna

1691
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: hit my line. That's when I was like, I want

1692
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: to learn, just like that on Tom q um the

1693
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: But that's when I my first chance learning somebody who

1694
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: could you know when actors do that and that Zel.

1695
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 1: It's almost like they're going through their legs with the

1696
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: ball they're playing with you. They're like Ida already actually

1697
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: pam and then hit and then they'll come out of

1698
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: and telling other jokes. You're like, WHOA some dope ship

1699
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 1: right there? You know what I'm saying. So I always

1700
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: wanted to learn how to act like him, and uh,

1701
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: you know that. But Denzel wasn't like he wasn't the

1702
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: Oscar Award winning that that two or to a bum

1703
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: nigger like me he was. I was like nobody in

1704
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: the world. I was a rapper. Like, how the hell

1705
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: am I even on screen with Denzel Washington? Really? You know?

1706
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: So I'm one of my keys is humility and kick

1707
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 1: y'all out the whole this whole Yeah, that should be

1708
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: smoking ship niggas just hitting the wax and relax. I

1709
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: got to pay for this, you know. I didn't get

1710
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: any money for that, Like New Jack City, I didn't

1711
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: get I got won whey six thousand dollars New Jack

1712
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: and get roy eighty million, eighty million bucks probably a

1713
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: hundred million by now know, no royalties. I got paid

1714
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: scale my first movie, And that's just how it goes.

1715
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 1: But that's yeah, nothing, and that's not that's nothing. That's

1716
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 1: just how the game is. But it's what it took

1717
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: him to the next level. Yeah, you can't. How do

1718
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: you negotiate? You have no leverage. Who are you that

1719
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: get another nigger? They get motherfucking a kick That put

1720
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Chuck in a fucking wig. I know he was in

1721
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: there and there rapping. You know, I knew everybody knew

1722
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: I that replace you. So so so after that, when

1723
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: I went to go see Joe Silver, I thought's gonna

1724
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: get paid. So I walked there, I'm like, yeah, well,

1725
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, the last movie, you know made a lot

1726
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: of money. You know what I'm saying. I know I'm

1727
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: about to get paid. Now he goes iced tea, You've

1728
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: done one movie. Stuck it to me again. So that

1729
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 1: movie I got like forty eight for less work. I

1730
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 1: didn't get any money in movies until I did TANKERL

1731
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: While I played the Kangaroo, I didn't even hear a tanker.

1732
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: What is this movie? A movie called tank Girl with

1733
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 1: Lori Petty and I played U. I played listen I'm

1734
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 1: doing I'm I'm making a movie with Keiana Reeves called

1735
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 1: Johnny Neumannic. Come in Canada. So I get a call

1736
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: from my manager said, will you play a stripper in Arizona?

1737
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: I said, you motherfucking right, I'll play a stripper in Arizona.

1738
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 1: So that night I did like two thousand set ups.

1739
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna be right to get my sex

1740
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: sing going. So the next day they sent me a

1741
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: picture of this kangaroo and it was like, uh, I

1742
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 1: was like, what am I stripper as a kangaroo? They

1743
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 1: don't know you're a ripper. Not a ripper. A ripper

1744
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: is a mutated person. I'm like, what's the of the movie?

1745
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: That's the movie's Tanker? That she sounds so generic. I

1746
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: was like, yo, am I not with Kiana Reeves? Didn't

1747
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: need it? I mean, what the fund is going on?

1748
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: And they told me how much money I was getting.

1749
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I've learned the bunnyhop. Now that was

1750
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: my first I gotta I gotta nion dollars and you

1751
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: ain't never seen it. I was like, oh yeah, if

1752
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 1: you google you tanker right now, I look crazy right hit.

1753
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a mutated because he called a

1754
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: mutated person, it's like si, yeah, like a fight over

1755
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 1: water and tank Girl iced tea. You're gonna see a

1756
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 1: picture of me. Okay, So while we plug up, I

1757
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: want to respect my brother, Charlie. Charlie's brother for twenty years,

1758
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 1: and he dove right into you. Look at this, Look

1759
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: at this picture. Just come, we're gonna see that's me.

1760
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 1: You got a million for that. Yeah, twenty two days,

1761
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: twenty two days in that ship? That cr is that? No,

1762
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: that's that's Stan. That's Stan Winston. That's five piece applications.

1763
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: That's all same. That's crazy. You gotta put it on

1764
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: the cameras movie got so now, yeah that was Tanker.

1765
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: So that was you know, and and the thing of

1766
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 1: it was And now I'm at this point where I'm

1767
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: just taking jobs and I'm rolling with it and they're

1768
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: coming in so I'm like, shoot, you know, I'm trying

1769
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: to make money. Now, fine, so now you consider the act,

1770
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 1: you consider the actor. Yeah, you're killing every role you get.

1771
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Then cs I come see Law Order. That's the same

1772
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 1: ship to me. I'm so sorry that everyone can do that.

1773
01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 1: No sound y'all take a shot every time we say life. Yeah,

1774
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: if you if you're watching it, take a shot. Listen.

1775
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 1: So Lord order Doom Doom Doom Doom that the sound tracker.

1776
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: They come to you and they say, what do they say? Okay,

1777
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:19,759
Speaker 1: little pre pre story died at my first time working

1778
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 1: with Dick Wolf Fools, the executive producers. That is in

1779
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 1: New York Undercover YEA makes it. Actually I was at

1780
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: I was at my house in l A. Hold on,

1781
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, Benzino, come on, what's wrong with you?

1782
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,799
Speaker 1: What's you don't even want to answer for that? Buttery fingers?

1783
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:47,680
Speaker 1: You got buttery fingers? Yo, ben Zino? You live on

1784
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: the podcast zero? What we hear? What I iced tea?

1785
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: What's up? Zino? What's happening? Baby tea? What's good man?

1786
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: You're in New York? Yeah? I we have five forty

1787
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 1: one Lexington. I'm the w Hotel. Come through. Okay cool?

1788
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: You know my last name? Right? I don't see how

1789
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 1: het treat me. So New York got under Cover. I

1790
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 1: was with Fab five Freddy in my house. You want

1791
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 1: New York to cover as well? I was on three times.

1792
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 1: I played a guy named Danny Yup and uh um.

1793
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: Andre Herrell was talking to Fab five Freddie. Fab five

1794
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: was like, I'm at iced tea s crip? He said,

1795
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 1: put iced tea on the phone. He's like, yeah, you

1796
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 1: gotta come on my show, New York under Cover. Andre

1797
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 1: was part of that. I'm like, I told him that's

1798
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: a rip off of New Jack City, you know New

1799
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: York Undercover. I said, you I never thought, yeah, what's that?

1800
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 1: Too young? I didn't know that. That's why I'm here

1801
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: to clarify the ship clarify. So so anyway, he's like, yeah,

1802
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 1: we'll come on the show. And I'm like, all right,

1803
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 1: you know I'm doing movies now, nigger. And then he

1804
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh right, you too big? Now you know

1805
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: how they do that. Like, I was like, all right,

1806
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: we'll give me a bad guy role and I'll play

1807
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: it because I've been playing Polio. I said, give me

1808
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: a bad guy role. So there was this role called

1809
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: Danny LP. I played it. I get a call from

1810
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:20,560
Speaker 1: Dick Old Things that we don't want to kill you

1811
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode where you do more,

1812
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 1: and I fought with him. We renegotiate that got a

1813
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: better room, move me from a bullshit hotel to the

1814
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: four seasons. I did two more episode I shot, I

1815
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: shot Maliko Malik Yoba's girl and I just wild out.

1816
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: So after I did that show. I did a show

1817
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 1: for him called Swift Justice. I played a bad guy.

1818
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: I did Law and Order. I played the pin that

1819
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: killed me with a bowling pin. Then I had a

1820
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: show called Players on TV that was my own show

1821
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: with constus man Lauren Frank Hughes. Okay, when those shows

1822
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 1: were over, Dick Wolf, he says, I wish I had

1823
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 1: a stronger vehicle for you, right, I mean, you got it.

1824
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: But so I'm like cool. So I was back in

1825
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: l A doing my business, doing my ship, trying to

1826
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: create iTunes. I was trying to create MP three bass

1827
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 1: that we could put rap music on and people could

1828
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: get it go straight to MP three. Niggas was looking

1829
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 1: at me like what is MP three? Niggas was like

1830
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 1: that will never work. Never never work. Niggas ain't getting

1831
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 1: rid of the CDs. So I'm like, no, it's a digital.

1832
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: I was like this before Naster after that. It was

1833
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: during the time Napster was doing it. But my thing was,

1834
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: I will take your album. I would digitally. I was

1835
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 1: going to create iTunes. I would take your album. I

1836
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 1: would put it onto a website where we would download

1837
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: it for money, just side it tunes. Before it tunes

1838
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 1: where I would I was, and I was gonna and

1839
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: not only that, I was gonna do it regionally where

1840
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: there be a map what the fun man put on speaking,

1841
01:42:49,320 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: put on speaking, He let's look at so let him right?

1842
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 1: Really yes, So, so my thing was it had a

1843
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: regional map, so if you could go to like, if

1844
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 1: you want to Pennsylvania, it would show all the rappers

1845
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania. So it would break it down regionally because

1846
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: I knew hip hop was regional, so you could do it.

1847
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, that was I was creating when I got

1848
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: the call to dude Spu and uh, I said no, okay,

1849
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: I said no because I had fifteen employees, I had

1850
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: a data basis, I had servers. I was trying to

1851
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 1: go and then my boy, we had a little problem

1852
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 1: in l A where one of my buddies has set

1853
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: me up to get robbed. Yeah, what's his name? Right

1854
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 1: now there's no longer with yeah, so so, but basically

1855
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,839
Speaker 1: one of my friends who I looked out time through prison,

1856
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: he sent some people up to my office and it

1857
01:43:56,200 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: was a robbery who took place. So everybody finally figured

1858
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: it out and it was a little hostile moment everybody

1859
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 1: was worrying about what's going on. And then then we

1860
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 1: figured out who did it, and it was tension, you know,

1861
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 1: tension and ship. You know, my daughter was in the room.

1862
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 1: It was. It was an ugly situation. It's in my book.

1863
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 1: I wrote it in my book. So when it happened,

1864
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 1: one of my boys from sixties, when they called the Emperor,

1865
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 1: he was he with me every day. So he was like,

1866
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: they offered me to do the show. He said, get

1867
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 1: out of town, man, get out of town. You know,

1868
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 1: fuck it, it's four shows. That's what We're gonna rob

1869
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: you with some money here, like you know, like you know,

1870
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 1: we weren't making no money yet in the business yet.

1871
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: And he's like, I got this. So I came out

1872
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: here to do four episodes for SPU and it's been

1873
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 1: eighteen years. But also the negative negativity is also one

1874
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: of the reasons they say gonna shake the New York

1875
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: because all this dramas going on, because you know, how

1876
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 1: hard was it to adapt to New York because right now,

1877
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: you like just as much as a New York Nigger

1878
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 1: than me. Well, I always love New York, I always

1879
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: love me. I was actually born in Newark, New Jersey. Um,

1880
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: my mother passed when I was in the third grade.

1881
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 1: My father when I was in the seventh. I lived

1882
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 1: in Summit, New Jersey over there with my father, and

1883
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: then I left to go to l A when my

1884
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 1: father died, and I was in l A ever since

1885
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 1: my aunt his sister, so I lived out there with

1886
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 1: them and stuff. So this brought me back. Music brought

1887
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: me back. I was coming out here to get because

1888
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 1: to me, being a rapper, I had to get the

1889
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 1: coach sign of New York. You can't be a rapper

1890
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: and not have New York's co signed as far as

1891
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: I was concerned. But happy birth I'm gonna get up

1892
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:58,600
Speaker 1: say happy birthday. Has a good pony on right now,

1893
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: you have a birthday of my doing. I'm gonna take

1894
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: the poem phone has my brother. You were like hand

1895
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: for through my life story. Here these guys and no

1896
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 1: stunt on turn. But that's good, that's good. I mean,

1897
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:31,560
Speaker 1: it's better for it to come from my mouth to

1898
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 1: somebody outside. Continue please making that bullshit freak. So when

1899
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 1: you moved to l A, Yeah, yeah, so that that was.

1900
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 1: That was when I moved to Cali with my aunt.

1901
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 1: And you've directly to where lived in Cali. Well not

1902
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 1: or not I was living when I moved out there.

1903
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: I was living in an area called Viewpark, which is

1904
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 1: above crunch Shaw and Vernon. It's like a nice of

1905
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 1: me is up in the hills, and I used to

1906
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: I got bus to a white junior high school called

1907
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 1: like you kind of situation. He was in Palms Junior

1908
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 1: High School. Crunshaw High School was right down the street.

1909
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 1: So when I got to high school, I said, I

1910
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: ain't catching the bus. And that's when I walked into

1911
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: the shore and uh, that's what I say in original

1912
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 1: Gangster how I was introduced to the gangs, and I

1913
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 1: did a song because that's how I'm living. I said,

1914
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, I was born in New Jersey. I said

1915
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: it before, but I guess nobody heard me. My mother

1916
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 1: died young, no sisters of brothers. I was her only

1917
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 1: son when I was young. My pops died too. What's

1918
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 1: the nigga supposed to do? They sent me out west

1919
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: to live with my aunt. I guess they thought that

1920
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: was the best. But there was no love there, and

1921
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: growing with no moms, I guess I was prepared to

1922
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 1: live in a vacuum the bedroom to catch it in

1923
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 1: the hall of the bathroom. I didn't leave home much.

1924
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 1: I didn't like l A. I didn't have no friends

1925
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 1: to trust. I got bus to a school blacks and whites.

1926
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,719
Speaker 1: I guess the ship was cool, but by high school

1927
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 1: I changed. I didn't want to bust. I didn't want

1928
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: to play the game. I walked to Crunshaw. HI ship

1929
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 1: was fly. I hooked up with a new crew, some

1930
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: niggas that I knew, act like they knew what the

1931
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 1: fund to do. Now you may call it a gang,

1932
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 1: but we call it a set, and it was our

1933
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: own thing. The whole school was down, and one way

1934
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 1: or another, everybody fucked around. Where the hardcore or not?

1935
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: You wore the right color? Yeah, scot shot So yeah,

1936
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 1: that's how I ended up out there. So anyway, yeah,

1937
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 1: I ended up on SVU eighteen years and uh bless.

1938
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 1: It was a very you know, the negative situation along

1939
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: with my buddy's insight. It's just what do you think

1940
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: about Dave Chappelle when he made the skin about that.

1941
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle's a genius. It's it's gonna be hard to

1942
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: find somebody as funny as Dave Chappelle. Like every once

1943
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 1: in a while, a comic genius comes out, like I

1944
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:58,600
Speaker 1: lived through Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy. But Dave chappellea

1945
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: just hits comedy from some other angle that niggas ain't ain't.

1946
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: It's just abnormal. Like, you know, I'm a fan of everybody,

1947
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, I was just you know, I love everybody.

1948
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: I was asked with Kevin Hart the other day, but

1949
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hard, if you don't bring your monkey

1950
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:21,639
Speaker 1: ass on here, Yeah, Kevin Marks cool, Kevin's Chappelle, Kevin

1951
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 1: Chris Rock, all that, But bro Dave's comedy is it's different.

1952
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 1: Dave's natural. You know what I'm saying. You don't try

1953
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,560
Speaker 1: to It's something different though when he and he, I

1954
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 1: mean we did the player Haters ball. He doesn't give

1955
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 1: a fuck who write that ship. But Nancy, I'm gonna

1956
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: go home and put some more milk in your mama's bowl,

1957
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 1: like you right, ship? Like what was the event? Actually?

1958
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,600
Speaker 1: I spun at the event in Miami? I think was

1959
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 1: the player the pall in Miami at Luke's Club. That

1960
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: was the Player's ball. Probably I was DJ and I

1961
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: have a picture and you're like right next to me

1962
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: and told me you wanted to run and you're like

1963
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 1: play shook one's part too. Oh yeah, I rhymed in

1964
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: that spot. Yeah I was the one spending. Yeah, yeah,

1965
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: I remember that. I have a picture. Okay, that's what's up.

1966
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 1: I don't have it all a real picture. I think

1967
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: me and Koko were in there that night. This is

1968
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: what I was gonna go before we go there. I

1969
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 1: I'm I probably think You're probably the first rap album

1970
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 1: I might have ever jerked off. It was the cover.

1971
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 1: It was a jail the same time that was Power

1972
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 1: jerked off the cover cover brother, Well you know what

1973
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 1: it was. It was It was just like nobody was

1974
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: doing it. Nobody was connecting sex, you know, the guns

1975
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 1: and all that, and I was like, this is part

1976
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: of it. Luke did it, but he didn't do it

1977
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 1: like he did to Gate somewhere. He did. He did

1978
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: it and like that was artistic actually the way you

1979
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: did when we did the front of the back, Well,

1980
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: that was the second album I did it on. Ryan

1981
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 1: Pays Darling was in the car with us, like in

1982
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 1: a bathing suit and me and Evil were in a Porsche.

1983
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 1: We had a palm tree and we were trying Glenn

1984
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,600
Speaker 1: Friedman shot that and we were trying to say this

1985
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 1: is Calie. We wanted that to say California. When the

1986
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 1: time I did the Power album cover, I was dealing

1987
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 1: with power, like the three the three levels of power.

1988
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 1: One is sex. That's the biggest power, right, so you

1989
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 1: see her. The next power is weapons, uh, sex, money

1990
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: and guns until you see the weapons. And then the

1991
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 1: next power is deception. And when you turn it over

1992
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: you see me and Evil were strapped. So I feel

1993
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 1: deception is the ultimate power because you never know who's

1994
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: giving it to you. You know, you, I think you

1995
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 1: fired me, but really he called the shot. He walked away.

1996
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 1: So people that work in that realm of deception and

1997
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 1: and and that's a that's the awesome business. You don't

1998
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: know where the shot from. And that's the scarier power,

1999
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:04,600
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I was dealing with on

2000
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: the album cover. Of course, Darlene looked incredible at the

2001
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 1: time and keep saying Darlene, but we don't know. Darlene

2002
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: was was my that's my son's mother. No, I've never

2003
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 1: been married before, but that was my son's mother at

2004
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: the time. And you know, me and her still got

2005
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 1: a good relationship. I think, yeah, but she out right

2006
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 1: but big of your son, Yeah, just smo. But she

2007
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 1: You know, at the time I was, I was in

2008
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 1: a world where I thought I thought you had to

2009
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: be real. I thought you couldn't lie. So I didn't

2010
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 1: know you could wear other people's jurlry. I didn't know

2011
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: you could say. I didn't know you could have a

2012
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: girl on your album covered it wasn't your girl. I

2013
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 1: didn't notice that everything I had to shoot in my

2014
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: own house I had to. I didn't know that that

2015
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: were your guns. Oh that's what I said, gets to

2016
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 1: my promo shot props, you know. So I didn't think

2017
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 1: that was okay, and you know I was. I ran

2018
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,560
Speaker 1: my career. I ran my career based on those principles.

2019
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: If you know I said, I don't what I said.

2020
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't rap about Gats, ain't got Jose, ain't caught

2021
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 1: you know guns, I ain't shot it game. To me,

2022
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 1: it's too fucking deep. If I did, honestly believe, I

2023
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 1: dye in my sleep. If I don't have it, I'm

2024
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 1: a rap about not having it right now. You know,

2025
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: until I get it, it's a duck down. We will

2026
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 1: do down, shorty come back. Yeah, that's my guy. Yeah,

2027
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: let me let me just tell you somebody's tea. At

2028
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Me and Capone we met

2029
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 1: in jail. We never ever ever in jail say we're

2030
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:03,799
Speaker 1: gonna come home and rap, right, Me and this found

2031
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 1: nigger and I'm a found nigger to him. My brother though,

2032
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 1: my brother. But we came home. We was in jail,

2033
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:16,480
Speaker 1: in jail saying we're gonna flip from cocaine. We come home. Absolutely.

2034
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: I came home and Compon was rapping and I was

2035
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 1: just like, I was like what And I was rapping

2036
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: too in jail. But we ain't never really share raps.

2037
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 1: So we had this whole altitude we we we had

2038
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 1: embarked on. But and this is the reason why I

2039
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 1: named gangster rap all reality rapping. If it wasn't for you,

2040
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't be us. And that's real ship because

2041
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 1: when I look at the history and sometimes like I

2042
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 1: could google something, I hate googling because I like to

2043
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: remember from what and the first original person that ever

2044
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 1: spit reality rap, gangster rap, whatever it is is you.

2045
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, and we all oh you, not just we

2046
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: didn't know how to be fake either though. Yeah, that's

2047
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 1: the thing. That's the same. We didn't know that, That's

2048
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 1: what I don't care. We didn't know you could do

2049
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 1: a photo shoot and have a fake gun. You did

2050
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 1: a photo shoot for the Vibe a real gun and

2051
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 1: it went on and it went off, and it went off.

2052
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: But I don't understand. I don't for this one. I

2053
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: don't understand how people can get on Instagram and all

2054
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 1: that and lie and talk about ship but then all

2055
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 1: their friends see it and they know it's not real,

2056
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 1: but their friends let them do it. Sort of friends

2057
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: fake too. They're going along with this. They checked by

2058
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: the lights. If the lights are there, that's the reality.

2059
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: But you gotta have balls to do that. Actually, me

2060
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 1: to put a picture up and me saying this is

2061
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 1: my house and niggas know that. What kind of person

2062
01:55:54,760 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 1: is that? You got Instagram police? That's catching motherfucker's too. Yeah,

2063
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about your friends. I'm talking about your friends.

2064
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Like I was held accountable for every lyric, every rhyme

2065
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: like Ice. You know, come on, Ice, nigga, yo, what

2066
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: you know? I had to make sure I stayed within

2067
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 1: the lines because my niggas wouldn't laugh me out of town.

2068
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: They be like, come on, Ice, you know, and my

2069
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 1: homie said, Ice, you don't never have to lie because

2070
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 1: you live such an incredible life. You don't have to it,

2071
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 1: just within it. If you don't, you know, people ain't

2072
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna believe most of the stories. I tell I need

2073
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Speaker 1: a nigga right here, just the co sign half and

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01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 1: ship you know, so people, but I don't get it now.

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01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: I just look at people. But now I would like

2076
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 1: to ask you hip hop, Now, what is your what

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01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: is what is Ice fellas on hip hop? I just

2078
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,880
Speaker 1: don't think it's held to the same same rules or

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01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: same standards. When I got in hip hop, gang banging

2080
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 1: isn't health of the same standards as is when you

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01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 1: saw nothing but but but But. I think when I

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01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: got into rap, I understood. You know, people that brought

2083
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: me in mail and everybody the cheese to me, they

2084
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 1: said hip hop requires skill. That's what I did in

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01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: the are to wrap my movie. I said, it requires skill.

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01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 1: You have to be have skill to be a breaker,

2087
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 1: a skill to be a rapper, skill to be a DJ. Right,

2088
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 1: once you lower the bar to where there's no skill,

2089
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: it's long longer an art form. It's yeah. So I

2090
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: came in when niggas will call you whack and you

2091
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 1: had to take it like you act, or you had

2092
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 1: to get better. You try to get better. It's now

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01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of like dance music. It's kind

2094
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 1: of like disco. It's just beats and the productions, some

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01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 1: of the some of the production. It's definitely I mean,

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01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. I'm being honest. I'm being honest. If

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01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 1: I can go into a club, I can go into

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01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 1: a club and listen to trap beats all night long

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01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 1: and I'm rocking. I mean, that's the sonic. The sound

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01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 1: production is every thing but the lyrical content. Everybody starts

2101
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 1: it's calling me Jack Trueller. You live on the podcast

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01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 1: for Iced Tea and John May get out of here.

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01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 1: You know what the fool is Iced Tea. I'm what

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01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm Jackie. I'm a really big fan man. I was

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01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 1: with Jack and the Bronze. You know where you at? Hey, Ali, Ali,

2106
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 1: Ali know the adrels come through and we're about to

2107
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 1: come up with it right now. Alright, alright, alright, alright,

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01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 1: bring some f and vodka. Goddamn it too. I make

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01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 1: niggi's turn off thick phones when they're in my house.

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Speaker 1: Now you know what, you know what? Let me tell

2111
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: you somebody, they don't accumulate more. I haven't said this

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01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 1: the whole interview. And one thing, one thing, one thing

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01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 1: that I have to say to you. It's ice. Although

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01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 1: I give the same love that you give to me

2115
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: to younger artists, but you not have ever been obligated

2116
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 1: to give me any love that you always gave because

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01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. But it's real though I'm not, I'm not,

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01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm not an Let me let me keep let me

2119
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 1: keep bigging you like who ain't. Let me keep bigging

2120
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: you up because you've always had our back from the beginning,

2121
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 1: like you're one of them guys. Listen, you're one of

2122
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 1: them guys that I know. I call and I know

2123
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna respond. I know you're gonna be and you know,

2124
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 1: I always haven't been able to to do what I

2125
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 1: gotta do. But when I've been at the lowest, the medium,

2126
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 1: the highest always been in my corner. Because real niggas

2127
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 1: ain't want to show up at the party. Niggas, real

2128
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 1: niggas meet you in the parking lot in the rain

2129
01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: with the pistol again. We get it again, and I

2130
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 1: want to thank you. I want to thank you. We're

2131
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: gonna ask my soldier boy hold on, but before before

2132
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 1: I get to the soldier boy, because I want to

2133
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 1: know who you got in the fight. But before that,

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01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:04,320
Speaker 1: clown asked Sniggs. Before that, I was like, well, you

2135
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 1: didn't let me finish. Okay, you didn't let me finish.

2136
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was saying. The music now,

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02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: sonically is incredible, but it's I understood feel it's lacking

2138
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: the lyrical content. I think that they're wrapping. They're wrapping

2139
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 1: fast and wrapping stuff. But I'm not taking nothing from it.

2140
02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm not Now. I listen to J Cole on the

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02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 1: other day. He has a record and I was like,

2142
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 1: and that's the only thing. I just think that although

2143
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 1: you're a star now and you're wrapping, take a minute

2144
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 1: and make a record and try to move somebody, like,

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Speaker 1: try to change somebody's life with it. I understand it.

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02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you got the baddest bitches, You got

2147
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 1: the money you high all the time. I got that,

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02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: But what else is there? Anything else is there? Now?

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02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 1: Some people there is nothing else. It's just getting money.

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02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 1: And I grew up with cats like that. It's just

2151
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 1: getting money. But some people got it in them to

2152
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: try to help and move and if that's anthing, you

2153
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 1: do it. But you change my life. I used to

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02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 1: you changed my life. One day, somebody asked you and said, well, Ice,

2155
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 1: when you're dropping something, and you said, I don't want

2156
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 1: to drop something because everybody's dropping mixtapes for free. I

2157
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:16,880
Speaker 1: don't want to spit my game for free. And that

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02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 1: ship totally me. I would say, cute, he said, if

2159
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 1: you notice it's only East Coast niggas that do the

2160
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:30,839
Speaker 1: mixtape game for free. West Coast mixtape they dropped mixtapes,

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Speaker 1: they sounded like Nipsey, like we killed people. Will sit

2162
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 1: back and saye downfall on the downfall of New York

2163
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 1: was whatever the downfall of New York was. We downgrade

2164
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:49,000
Speaker 1: so many people. And I said that one day and

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Speaker 1: nobody paid attention. But there was a website called daft

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Speaker 1: Pith okay right, we put out a thing called the

2167
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 1: Anti Mix Tape Day would up in twenty free mixtapes

2168
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Speaker 1: a day on that website. Yeah it was. It was like, yo,

2169
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:08,879
Speaker 1: this is so deluded. Now there's no value down labels

2170
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 1: and suing them for that. But still it's like, yo, man,

2171
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean like, if this is your business, then you

2172
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 1: gotta hold and you gotta take its content. You can't

2173
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:22,440
Speaker 1: just give it away. I never threw out a free mixtapes.

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02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:26,960
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. It's like, what are you doing, especially somebody

2175
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 1: like you was already known. I mean, if you knew,

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02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 1: you might have to mixtape with but I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't don't. And then how did the producers get paid

2178
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 1: when you're giving away nobody? You just doreat yourself in

2179
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:41,040
Speaker 1: the same person that didn't put half the work you

2180
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 1: put in the game. Put yourself on the same level

2181
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 1: as then when you have a mixtape. But that's why

2182
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 1: you gotta have producers that's lawyer like hazard. It sounds

2183
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Speaker 1: sp K, scram Jones, incredible cuts. You know, people like that,

2184
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 1: because because I'm not getting no money over this, there

2185
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 1: don't work either. So you gotta have people that it's

2186
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 1: willing to take that rest with you. But mind you this,

2187
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Speaker 1: it's compone. When you said that ice change my mind

2188
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:15,440
Speaker 1: on from Queensbridge. Yeah, you don't stop that queens And

2189
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 1: why does your vapor smell like room Boss? My va

2190
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: smells good. It smells it smells like old Span is pussy.

2191
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm just keeping it real. It's like it's just like

2192
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Speaker 1: some nice smells fans. But he knows my ship is crazy.

2193
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,200
Speaker 1: Span is good your ice. You can text me the

2194
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:41,240
Speaker 1: picture when you walk it. Please? What is it? That's

2195
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Speaker 1: it's zy? Just a shirt to be honest, interview with

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Speaker 1: you is so perfect give weight right now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities

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Speaker 1: talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at

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Speaker 1: play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with

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Speaker 1: Rapper and R and d J. Then, you know, I

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Speaker 1: just can't thank you enough because I know you humble,

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Speaker 1: and you and and hey, but what keep going? Man?

2203
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 1: Keep going? You saw him and I just want to

2204
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:55,960
Speaker 1: thank you because you know why I and I know

2205
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: you don't give a fuck. I know you're a real nigga,

2206
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 1: but you know what I feel is real niggers should

2207
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 1: be saluted nowadays. At the end of the day, fake

2208
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 1: niggas had their time and that's the reason why me

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Speaker 1: and my partner right here started this podcast. But you

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02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 1: can feel it is we want to. If you notice

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02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:18,240
Speaker 1: we've never interviewed not one new guy, and if you

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Speaker 1: interview the new Guy. He came with an old and

2213
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Speaker 1: only this is the only generation in the world that

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02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 1: when you become old they kick you out first. That

2215
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Speaker 1: you can still do it Jazz, you can still do it. Uh,

2216
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 1: southup my ain game. You could be sixties seven pop

2217
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 1: stars getting more love for longer and the hip hop

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Speaker 1: is the only thing. So you know what what me

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Speaker 1: and my partners, that's why I got a rocket album now.

2220
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 1: But listen to but you ain't got to have a million.

2221
02:05:55,600 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: You can stick with hip hop and you know, like no,

2222
02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 1: but it's real. It's the word. Sometimes you gotta you know,

2223
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:13,640
Speaker 1: but this birthday you can't get back. This is what

2224
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:16,120
Speaker 1: drink Champs is. Drink chats. We want to salute all

2225
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Speaker 1: legends because there's no other platform to salute all legends.

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Speaker 1: Like right now, if you say I'm gonna do the

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Speaker 1: hottest podcast quote unquote, they want to They want to

2228
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Speaker 1: get jay Z, they want to get nas, they want

2229
02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: to get Drake, they want to get all these people.

2230
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Speaker 1: That's not what we started off to do. We wanted

2231
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Speaker 1: to support our legends. You know, we meet me myself

2232
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:40,800
Speaker 1: like the Raptors. I liked one of the prerequesces was

2233
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Speaker 1: what I like to hang out with. Do you know

2234
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to roll with rock Him. I wanted to

2235
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Speaker 1: hang with Big Daddy Kane. I wanted to hang around

2236
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Speaker 1: Component No yea game Ray Kwan and hang with Easy.

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Speaker 1: Give us an a z story that untold. No that's easy, Easy, well,

2238
02:06:57,200 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 1: Easy game was. He always tried to tell people's fifteen

2239
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 1: you come out that I know, you don't come out

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Speaker 1: just while out in the hotel room some stuff. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've seen Easy. You know, the ladies that be

2242
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:22,920
Speaker 1: cleaning the thing. It's like tackle the chick like like

2243
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:27,120
Speaker 1: like this is four nigs, was getting charges and stuff.

2244
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:30,040
Speaker 1: They was just wilding out. But now you know, Easy

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Speaker 1: was a good dude. I mean he was. He was

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Speaker 1: the street member of the group. He funded that group

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Speaker 1: right out. Think it's said that, Yeah, it's true. So

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02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:40,880
Speaker 1: I'll give you other people names and I just want

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Speaker 1: to see you wanted to continue to Easy. Know Easy,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's not think of it as Easy. It's

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Speaker 1: passed away. So it's kind of odd to talk about him.

2252
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say no Wild, but I might actually

2253
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:53,680
Speaker 1: a couple of people that passed, but I got wild

2254
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: story because you got you got story rested. Well, Jam

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Speaker 1: that's something about Jack Messenger. Jay was Jay was another

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Speaker 1: person who was like the most authentic like part of

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02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 1: Run d m C. Like he was a street cat.

2258
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:11,680
Speaker 1: So I would always actually like somehow they would gravitate

2259
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:14,280
Speaker 1: to me and we would end up talking and stuff

2260
02:08:14,360 --> 02:08:16,880
Speaker 1: like that. But Jay was a solid dude. I mean,

2261
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Speaker 1: it's amazing that no one car who killed him. That's

2262
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 1: just amazing that somebody of that caliber, that's like somebody

2263
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 1: from like the one the Super Bowl, like Tom Brady

2264
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:31,120
Speaker 1: get killed. Nobody knows about it. You know, that's crazy.

2265
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 1: And the thing, you know what's crazy. They talk about

2266
02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: solving they talk about not solving big murder, not sov

2267
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 1: pop pop murder, but they never talked about not solving

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02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 1: jam Mr Jay and he was just as pinnacle and

2269
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Speaker 1: jay Z. Let me tell you, jay Z, and I

2270
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Speaker 1: mean Jam mr J and Run d m Z. Remember

2271
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:55,880
Speaker 1: you talk out that moment with you. That was the

2272
02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 1: moment that made me really rap. Like I went to

2273
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 1: a concert they had and they had everybody put their

2274
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 1: dads and jam mr J was on a riser and

2275
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:09,120
Speaker 1: they had lasers and ship and I was just trying

2276
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: to wrap and I was like, yo, this ship is

2277
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:15,720
Speaker 1: rocking wrong. Like yo, I like no that because we

2278
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:17,680
Speaker 1: had always been doing it in the basements and the

2279
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,440
Speaker 1: little clubs and ship and when I seen that, I

2280
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 1: think I went home that night and wrote like twenty

2281
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 1: raps Like I was like, yo, they rundy m C.

2282
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 1: Let me understand. This was big. But it was bigger

2283
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 1: than the basement and the small clubs. Hip hop ward. Okay,

2284
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 1: so I'm going a little bit all over these Tupac

2285
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:42,600
Speaker 1: I knew pop when he was in uh in Digital Underground,

2286
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 1: he was dancing, and um, is that a difference between

2287
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 1: two Digital Underground Tupac wanted. I remember we were at

2288
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 1: a Soul Train awards and it was me and Dre

2289
02:09:57,480 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 1: and we were sitting at a table and Punk walk by.

2290
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 1: You say, d dr Dre. You just can't just say Dre,

2291
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, as a stupid Dr Dre And and

2292
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 1: Pock walked by, and at that time he was in

2293
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:15,240
Speaker 1: Tupac yet I think maybe it was a Treach or somebody,

2294
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 1: but he looked at the table and I could see

2295
02:10:17,560 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 1: he wanted to sit at the table, you know, I

2296
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:22,320
Speaker 1: could see it. And then as he started to make

2297
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 1: his move at Tupac. I remember one time cook see

2298
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 1: Pack was doing some strange things like all right, like

2299
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:31,480
Speaker 1: he hooked up with the cats in in south central

2300
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 1: fifty second to five deuces, which was rated are and

2301
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 1: no no crip about kick the producer out. But Ali

2302
02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:44,240
Speaker 1: got a go. He cooked up with rated all and

2303
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:48,600
Speaker 1: they created that thing thug Life, which was based in

2304
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:53,360
Speaker 1: south central l A. Nothing homies in Jersey. No no, no, no,

2305
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:55,880
Speaker 1: no no no no, I dott but I thought the

2306
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 1: third Doug Life was rated R and um and uh

2307
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 1: mac doocious. They were out of l A, right, and

2308
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:07,120
Speaker 1: then you know he evolved from that and then when

2309
02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 1: he got into trouble out here, that's when Sugar came

2310
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 1: in and got him out. But I remember one time

2311
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 1: I was in l A and Pomp pulled up on

2312
02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:17,720
Speaker 1: me in a car with like this crazy ass chick

2313
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 1: like some like strawberry bit in the front seat. He had. Yeah,

2314
02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 1: that's how I noticed, think of my brother. That's exactly

2315
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:28,960
Speaker 1: what I said in my mom Strawberry is basically Bronze

2316
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 1: didn't get off for crack like it's a it's a

2317
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 1: street thing for like a crack. Huh Okay, So this brod.

2318
02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:45,240
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't this woman. I'm like, what is

2319
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:47,480
Speaker 1: this business? Went in the car? She already you know.

2320
02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:50,320
Speaker 1: But he's getting high and he had weed. He had weed,

2321
02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 1: he had gun and he wanted me to sit in

2322
02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:58,680
Speaker 1: the car and listen to a record. I'm like, are

2323
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:03,000
Speaker 1: you riding around? Like like, are you serious? Are you

2324
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:06,600
Speaker 1: fucking kidding me? I'm not so you know, let me

2325
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:09,440
Speaker 1: just take see. He was trying to impress you, even

2326
02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:12,200
Speaker 1: if he wasn't trying to press you, because every time

2327
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:14,040
Speaker 1: I hang out with you, I'm trying to impress. But

2328
02:12:14,120 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 1: he was. He scared me, so I was like like,

2329
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:20,760
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this is crazy. But I'll tell

2330
02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:23,080
Speaker 1: you some real inside ship. He was in my house.

2331
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 1: I had a studio called the crack House, and he

2332
02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 1: was at my house with the outlaws, a couple of

2333
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:31,600
Speaker 1: the outlaws, and he played me hit him up and

2334
02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:35,160
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. And I was like, you're gonna

2335
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:36,960
Speaker 1: start some you don't like it because of what he

2336
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 1: was saying. I didn't like him starting to beef. I

2337
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 1: was like, dog, you knew where I was gonna go.

2338
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:44,120
Speaker 1: I said, you going in on dude wife and all that.

2339
02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:46,280
Speaker 1: I was like Yo, He's like yo. Then at that

2340
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:49,600
Speaker 1: time he thought Big Head shot him and I was like, Yo,

2341
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 1: whoa you can hand I wouldn't you ain't for be

2342
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:55,000
Speaker 1: handling that with a record? Really? Are you? You know?

2343
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,640
Speaker 1: So we kind of was on bad terms that that

2344
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:00,560
Speaker 1: because he wanted me to ride with him and I

2345
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:04,240
Speaker 1: was like I couldn't, you know, And so that we

2346
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 1: was we was kind of like in that zone when

2347
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:09,520
Speaker 1: he got killed. Was what he was saying that Was

2348
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:12,120
Speaker 1: he saying that that was reality? Or was he saying,

2349
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm just a rod record. It's a b F record.

2350
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:17,000
Speaker 1: You know, he's talking about life wife, but it's a

2351
02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:19,240
Speaker 1: b F record. Like if you're gonna set it and

2352
02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:21,640
Speaker 1: you're setting it yelling West Coast, you shouldn't have set.

2353
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:26,120
Speaker 1: I knew that was gonna turn into a real you know. Yeah,

2354
02:13:26,240 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 1: you know I'm not out wrapping you. I'm threatening you.

2355
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking yeah, And I'm like yo. I was like, yo,

2356
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean you really even to go there? You know,

2357
02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm sitting back like who I'm supposed to be. I'm older,

2358
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:42,840
Speaker 1: like Yo, this is this is you know? But he

2359
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 1: wanted to going like yeah, yeah, yeah, this is good ship.

2360
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 1: Let's do it say, is he saying that he smashed Faith?

2361
02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:54,600
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing. But he said that he he

2362
02:13:54,720 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 1: said it, But was he in the studio? Was he

2363
02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:59,920
Speaker 1: saying this is true? Wasn't. No, No, we didn't get there.

2364
02:14:00,160 --> 02:14:02,480
Speaker 1: I just listened to the playback and was like, dog,

2365
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:07,160
Speaker 1: that's I don't know, not a good ideade too much,

2366
02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:10,480
Speaker 1: it's not a good idea. Plus I'm cool with New

2367
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:15,600
Speaker 1: York like, yo, you remember what it was gone, but

2368
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:20,400
Speaker 1: it was gonna cause a crazy and all all bullshit aside,

2369
02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 1: right if you're thinking, maybe shot you while you making

2370
02:14:23,160 --> 02:14:29,160
Speaker 1: a record, right, Okay, So we went there. You gonna

2371
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:32,200
Speaker 1: you handle this with a record? Okay? But he wasn't

2372
02:14:32,200 --> 02:14:34,880
Speaker 1: ready for that, and I wasn't really trying to send

2373
02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:36,680
Speaker 1: him on the minute. I was just trying to get it,

2374
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:44,360
Speaker 1: get it, yeah, come on man, but as yeah, yeah.

2375
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:47,280
Speaker 1: But but anyway, long story short, you know, I love

2376
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:50,040
Speaker 1: Poc was a good kid. I remember one night Shot

2377
02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:52,840
Speaker 1: came and knocked on my door and he was like, yo,

2378
02:14:53,160 --> 02:14:55,440
Speaker 1: uh you need to talk to Pock And he said,

2379
02:14:55,480 --> 02:14:57,280
Speaker 1: you like one of the only people here listened to

2380
02:14:57,960 --> 02:15:00,120
Speaker 1: And he was like you you know he's gonna now

2381
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:02,320
Speaker 1: you listening to me at that time, So you know,

2382
02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:05,080
Speaker 1: he kind of got caught in the song. See when

2383
02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:07,240
Speaker 1: you're when you're not in the l A gang scene

2384
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:12,000
Speaker 1: and you come to l A and they embrace you. Yeah,

2385
02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:16,560
Speaker 1: it's it's you're not necessarily safe, you know. And it

2386
02:15:16,680 --> 02:15:18,480
Speaker 1: wasn't where he was supposed to be. Like, you know,

2387
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:20,880
Speaker 1: you you make records, you should be on your way

2388
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:23,120
Speaker 1: out of the game. You shouldn't be making records and

2389
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:26,440
Speaker 1: then going into it, you know, because you're making flyers.

2390
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 1: Like when a stream nigger has the power of an amenity.

2391
02:15:31,880 --> 02:15:35,880
Speaker 1: Who shot him Pooky Low? Who's Pooky Low? Nobody knows

2392
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:38,120
Speaker 1: who shot him? Iced Tea, iced Ty gonna be on

2393
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:41,240
Speaker 1: this flyer, He'll be right here. You know. You no

2394
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 1: longer have that ability to disappear into the hood. Niggas

2395
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:47,240
Speaker 1: could pop up on you any motherfucker where. So you

2396
02:15:47,320 --> 02:15:50,200
Speaker 1: gotta let that ship go. You gotta let that ship go.

2397
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:52,840
Speaker 1: You're no longer in the underworld. Now you're part of

2398
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:56,040
Speaker 1: the mainstream, and you gotta you have to behave like that.

2399
02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 1: So did you did you actually see like after that,

2400
02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:02,240
Speaker 1: did you see that pot was going down the road

2401
02:16:02,440 --> 02:16:05,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily Yeah, it wasn't you know. It was

2402
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:09,160
Speaker 1: just not a good place to be, uh you know,

2403
02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:11,800
Speaker 1: but you know he was rolling with Shug. Sugar got

2404
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:14,000
Speaker 1: him out of jail, so everybody had turned their back

2405
02:16:14,080 --> 02:16:15,800
Speaker 1: on the truck when he got caught in that mess,

2406
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:19,640
Speaker 1: still came and saved. What was your relationship with Sugar

2407
02:16:19,720 --> 02:16:24,520
Speaker 1: was m W as bodyguard and but yeah, but he

2408
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:27,960
Speaker 1: rode with them, and being Sugar always had a cool rep.

2409
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:32,440
Speaker 1: Cool like understanding no beef because we did no business.

2410
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:35,880
Speaker 1: But you gotta understand, Sugar is a football player and

2411
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:40,360
Speaker 1: he basically had act connections to the MOB or the MLB,

2412
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:43,160
Speaker 1: the cats in his neighborhood where he's from, and they

2413
02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:46,560
Speaker 1: were bloods and he surround himself with a gang of bloods.

2414
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:51,440
Speaker 1: So that was power and something. But then again, my

2415
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:55,880
Speaker 1: boys they were like we the other side, so that

2416
02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:58,400
Speaker 1: don't matter to us. And I got Nigga as big,

2417
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:02,600
Speaker 1: biggest Sugar, So it's like, what's happened, friend? You fucked

2418
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:05,080
Speaker 1: me up with that one. Though. My boys was the

2419
02:17:05,160 --> 02:17:07,360
Speaker 1: others like because you know, for the rap game, all

2420
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:13,000
Speaker 1: they knew was Sug at one point. That's and but

2421
02:17:13,120 --> 02:17:15,920
Speaker 1: but but see, I'm not operating as as that type

2422
02:17:15,959 --> 02:17:26,960
Speaker 1: of a militia. But they gotta go yeah, you know, yeah,

2423
02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:31,760
Speaker 1: but you know it's like, okay, and that's children. We well,

2424
02:17:31,800 --> 02:17:35,400
Speaker 1: everybody was cool, everybody understood everybody. Everybody had their limits.

2425
02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:38,360
Speaker 1: But me and Sugar never shared a negative word. He

2426
02:17:38,520 --> 02:17:42,480
Speaker 1: was very respectful in areas and we respect because we

2427
02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:46,080
Speaker 1: we aren't enemies, so to speak. But then at the

2428
02:17:46,160 --> 02:17:50,080
Speaker 1: same time were from two different sides of the gang world.

2429
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:53,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm from a crypt side. Okay,

2430
02:17:53,480 --> 02:18:00,680
Speaker 1: so they like whatever, can I at your question? U disgressive?

2431
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:06,200
Speaker 1: This is going through something we talk about beef. What

2432
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:09,240
Speaker 1: was to deal with you? We said, I questioned Mo

2433
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:12,080
Speaker 1: d here man iced Tea girl. Well, what happened was

2434
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:22,560
Speaker 1: l l it was I had to ask that because

2435
02:18:22,640 --> 02:18:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, not that I know, uh, he's a little

2436
02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:34,880
Speaker 1: bit not I know, because because iced Tea is real nigger.

2437
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:37,640
Speaker 1: I just wanted that was like that was that was

2438
02:18:37,760 --> 02:18:41,320
Speaker 1: equivalent to Biggie and partner. Yeah, but no one. I

2439
02:18:41,400 --> 02:18:43,480
Speaker 1: didn't take it like that. What happened was with with

2440
02:18:43,760 --> 02:18:46,200
Speaker 1: with him was he was just saying he was the

2441
02:18:46,280 --> 02:18:49,520
Speaker 1: greatest rapper ever. And I was coming out from the

2442
02:18:49,560 --> 02:18:51,760
Speaker 1: West Coast and how was I going to be able

2443
02:18:51,800 --> 02:18:54,320
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously if I let someone say they

2444
02:18:54,320 --> 02:18:57,000
Speaker 1: were the best. So I had to rep minds. I

2445
02:18:57,240 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 1: was just like, funk, whoever you think you are, NIGGI

2446
02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, I had a whole coach on my back.

2447
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:05,280
Speaker 1: So I was like, let's go. Now. Whether I thought

2448
02:19:05,320 --> 02:19:08,560
Speaker 1: I could actually beat him wrapping whatever, but I had

2449
02:19:08,640 --> 02:19:11,240
Speaker 1: to stay in my ground. And I thought I might

2450
02:19:11,320 --> 02:19:13,320
Speaker 1: have been able to be more clever than him, who knows,

2451
02:19:13,800 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 1: But it was no. That ship got shut down bam.

2452
02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:22,760
Speaker 1: But I'd actually shut down that rap beef because because

2453
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:26,879
Speaker 1: l L wanted to be part of Zulu, and there

2454
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:30,000
Speaker 1: was a moment where they were asking me, and I'm like, well,

2455
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:31,800
Speaker 1: if it's up to me, you know, me and him,

2456
02:19:31,800 --> 02:19:34,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of beefing and ship. But at the end

2457
02:19:34,560 --> 02:19:37,960
Speaker 1: of the day, yeah, because Africa Islam put me in

2458
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:46,240
Speaker 1: the game. I might have missed that. He did producing right,

2459
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:50,960
Speaker 1: so so so l you know, but it was his

2460
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:53,760
Speaker 1: record ship. It wasn't it was just who's better rapper?

2461
02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:56,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't threatening each other's lives and shipping all that, and

2462
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:58,920
Speaker 1: I did this and that, and I think he said

2463
02:19:59,400 --> 02:20:01,920
Speaker 1: I took the the record the thing to the bathroom

2464
02:20:02,040 --> 02:20:05,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. But you know whatever, you know that's not granted.

2465
02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:09,080
Speaker 1: Some murder like that just still looks so bad that

2466
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:12,400
Speaker 1: you're both like to keep me by storm, like y'are

2467
02:20:12,480 --> 02:20:17,320
Speaker 1: both the rat L Now how does that? How does that?

2468
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:22,120
Speaker 1: I ran into LLL in Monte Carlo. We were what's up?

2469
02:20:22,480 --> 02:20:25,200
Speaker 1: What's up? All right? Good to see you? All right?

2470
02:20:30,040 --> 02:20:35,600
Speaker 1: What's going on with my brother ben Zeno's in the village.

2471
02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:38,560
Speaker 1: I was watching TV. I saw you get shot on TV.

2472
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:45,120
Speaker 1: I was like, your relative shot you crazy? To shoot me?

2473
02:20:45,680 --> 02:20:54,520
Speaker 1: That's crazy, don't say but my family, now you let's

2474
02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:59,880
Speaker 1: get to this Monty Carlo doing a television contention. I'm

2475
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:03,200
Speaker 1: and I chopped it up with l L. And you

2476
02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:05,400
Speaker 1: know it was like yo, man at the end. Back

2477
02:21:05,440 --> 02:21:07,080
Speaker 1: in them days, this is what we had to do.

2478
02:21:07,320 --> 02:21:10,400
Speaker 1: We had to stand our ground, no disrespect, and we

2479
02:21:10,520 --> 02:21:13,440
Speaker 1: shook and everything. But I had this recently. This happened

2480
02:21:13,480 --> 02:21:16,199
Speaker 1: maybe five years ago. After that point, I hadn't crossed

2481
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:19,320
Speaker 1: the l ELS path nothing like the whole time. We

2482
02:21:19,400 --> 02:21:21,360
Speaker 1: don't have to. You know, we live in different coasts

2483
02:21:21,440 --> 02:21:26,400
Speaker 1: and you know, but Hollywood didn't bring you all like

2484
02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 1: he's like that, what about you? All right, what about

2485
02:21:29,080 --> 02:21:33,520
Speaker 1: MODI did you know when when that happened? Did you

2486
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:36,080
Speaker 1: ever talked to we got a funk out. Now, It

2487
02:21:36,200 --> 02:21:39,040
Speaker 1: wasn't that. It wasn't it wasn't that serious kind. It

2488
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:42,000
Speaker 1: was wrap ship. It was rap ship. It was never

2489
02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:44,440
Speaker 1: that serious. It was just like I could wrap better

2490
02:21:44,520 --> 02:21:49,560
Speaker 1: than you know, as a as a young dude coming up,

2491
02:21:50,240 --> 02:21:53,600
Speaker 1: and as a young dude coming up, like embarrassment. Come on, man,

2492
02:21:54,680 --> 02:21:57,800
Speaker 1: the same person and young dude coming up right, so

2493
02:21:57,920 --> 02:22:00,960
Speaker 1: I'll see like you you would that soldier boy for

2494
02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:02,720
Speaker 1: his rap and you're like, Yo, that ain't real hip

2495
02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:05,600
Speaker 1: hop or whatever, blah blah. Like I agree with you

2496
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:08,200
Speaker 1: because I come up under the seeing nick upon the North,

2497
02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:10,959
Speaker 1: I know real hip hop. But I'm taking it as

2498
02:22:11,080 --> 02:22:13,560
Speaker 1: like he's a young boy coming up trying to use

2499
02:22:13,600 --> 02:22:15,720
Speaker 1: a platform just to make it out the hood. So

2500
02:22:15,840 --> 02:22:17,680
Speaker 1: it's like I felt like if I was him, like,

2501
02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll be hurt to hear that first. It's like I

2502
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:22,040
Speaker 1: look up to you like you going shoot on me.

2503
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make it out feed my fan. Okay.

2504
02:22:24,680 --> 02:22:26,840
Speaker 1: It was a backstory to that. This is what happened.

2505
02:22:27,080 --> 02:22:29,080
Speaker 1: This is why we were talking about phones off and

2506
02:22:29,240 --> 02:22:31,880
Speaker 1: cameras are because we were. I was making a mixtape

2507
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:33,800
Speaker 1: from one of my homies in the hood. Right, This

2508
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:37,760
Speaker 1: dude just a regular nigked I'm on his rapping, rapping

2509
02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:41,000
Speaker 1: for him free right. So when I get into the booth,

2510
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:44,280
Speaker 1: the nigga started like like saying, niggas don't want to

2511
02:22:44,320 --> 02:22:46,520
Speaker 1: hear you. They want to see boy. They want so

2512
02:22:46,600 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 1: they pumping me up. They're using this ship to get me.

2513
02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:51,039
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, they don't want to hear you. Nig

2514
02:22:51,160 --> 02:22:55,480
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear christ. They hit my g bone.

2515
02:22:55,560 --> 02:23:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I went on and I lined up,

2516
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:05,000
Speaker 1: I went on a ramp, and the niggas taped it

2517
02:23:06,200 --> 02:23:07,640
Speaker 1: and put it out and put it on in the

2518
02:23:07,760 --> 02:23:11,560
Speaker 1: front of their mixtape. So I'm so that was. That

2519
02:23:11,680 --> 02:23:13,960
Speaker 1: was one of my iced t old man rants. It

2520
02:23:14,120 --> 02:23:16,119
Speaker 1: was he was never supposed to hurt it. So now

2521
02:23:16,320 --> 02:23:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm in Arizona, minded my business. My son goes soldier

2522
02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:23,080
Speaker 1: boys on the internet talking shit about you. So I'm like,

2523
02:23:23,240 --> 02:23:26,560
Speaker 1: what so a parent they planned the tape back here listening.

2524
02:23:27,040 --> 02:23:30,600
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, well, I can't back down. I

2525
02:23:30,760 --> 02:23:34,200
Speaker 1: did say this ship, so now I'm out there, so

2526
02:23:34,320 --> 02:23:37,000
Speaker 1: let me verify, let me break down what I said

2527
02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:39,040
Speaker 1: and not as told, and nigga breast straight up, nigga,

2528
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:42,240
Speaker 1: this is how I feel blah blah blah blah blah

2529
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:46,200
Speaker 1: and what and then rest is history. But at the

2530
02:23:46,360 --> 02:23:49,280
Speaker 1: time I felt the bar was starting to drop. And

2531
02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:51,400
Speaker 1: I just think that that once again, it needs to

2532
02:23:51,440 --> 02:23:54,120
Speaker 1: be a degree of difficulty in hip hop that always

2533
02:23:54,200 --> 02:23:56,600
Speaker 1: has been there and that's what makes it something special.

2534
02:23:56,959 --> 02:23:59,680
Speaker 1: There's something about a star. A star is something you

2535
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:02,200
Speaker 1: can't reach. That's why Michael Jordan is a star. You

2536
02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:04,240
Speaker 1: can't reach it, and that's why we look up to him.

2537
02:24:04,400 --> 02:24:07,119
Speaker 1: But when you're doing something that everybody can do, you're

2538
02:24:07,160 --> 02:24:10,720
Speaker 1: not really started me what anybody can do, and show

2539
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:13,480
Speaker 1: me something I can't do, and you get to praise.

2540
02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:16,800
Speaker 1: So you know, God blessed soldier. But you know this

2541
02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:21,800
Speaker 1: is what I do know. Niggas will end up in

2542
02:24:21,879 --> 02:24:25,000
Speaker 1: their own ship if that's what they deserve. So now

2543
02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:28,160
Speaker 1: you're seeing this this guy and and and look at

2544
02:24:28,160 --> 02:24:30,680
Speaker 1: where his life is. You see what I'm saying, So

2545
02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:36,600
Speaker 1: you you don't really gotta do nothing to nobody. They

2546
02:24:36,720 --> 02:24:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna end up where they're supposed to be because of

2547
02:24:39,160 --> 02:24:43,160
Speaker 1: their actions. So you know God, but now we want

2548
02:24:43,200 --> 02:24:47,320
Speaker 1: to know you know what that's like. That's like if

2549
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:49,640
Speaker 1: you ever heard about the Laws of Murphy, what can

2550
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:54,680
Speaker 1: happen will happen? And that's what Let me. Let me

2551
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:57,400
Speaker 1: just tell you something. You want to join the gangs gang.

2552
02:24:58,320 --> 02:25:00,800
Speaker 1: You're a good guy, busy. You know history in this room,

2553
02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:04,640
Speaker 1: right you know said yeah, yo, you know Ice Ice

2554
02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:27,160
Speaker 1: kuld killed. Hell, it was it was real because real

2555
02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:32,400
Speaker 1: ship though, and I respected because hold on the table

2556
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:35,840
Speaker 1: and I spent on it was real because like like

2557
02:25:36,360 --> 02:25:38,600
Speaker 1: I remember when we had the ours so cool and

2558
02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:42,760
Speaker 1: we was on Tommy Boy and when and which is

2559
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:46,640
Speaker 1: now on by Warner Bucks, right right exactly. But if

2560
02:25:46,680 --> 02:25:48,879
Speaker 1: it's crazy because all happened at that time. But when

2561
02:25:48,879 --> 02:25:50,400
Speaker 1: he came out with the cop Killer song, we know

2562
02:25:50,480 --> 02:25:52,560
Speaker 1: we just got a deal on Tommy Boy, dude from Boston.

2563
02:25:52,640 --> 02:25:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, I got a little single deal. We put

2564
02:25:54,879 --> 02:25:57,120
Speaker 1: a song out called one the Chamber. So when the

2565
02:25:57,200 --> 02:25:59,640
Speaker 1: Chamber we talked about two kids who I got killed

2566
02:25:59,680 --> 02:26:01,640
Speaker 1: and ball stand and the police got over with it whatever,

2567
02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:04,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, shot shot dude under a car,

2568
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:05,720
Speaker 1: shot over due in the back of the head, and

2569
02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:08,400
Speaker 1: they got over with it. So, um, we end up

2570
02:26:08,400 --> 02:26:12,640
Speaker 1: getting dropped from Tommy Boy because the Boston Police Patrols

2571
02:26:12,640 --> 02:26:15,280
Speaker 1: associated and has sued us. So I forgot. There was

2572
02:26:15,280 --> 02:26:18,600
Speaker 1: an interview and it was something that I don't know

2573
02:26:18,600 --> 02:26:20,160
Speaker 1: if you did the interview, if I did the interview,

2574
02:26:20,480 --> 02:26:22,200
Speaker 1: and it was just something because since he had the

2575
02:26:22,240 --> 02:26:24,120
Speaker 1: cop Kills song and we got with the cop that

2576
02:26:24,280 --> 02:26:26,960
Speaker 1: was trying to compare things, and it was saying that.

2577
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:28,800
Speaker 1: I said, well, as far as I know, you know,

2578
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:31,959
Speaker 1: even though of course I see legend in the game,

2579
02:26:32,040 --> 02:26:34,280
Speaker 1: but the song, from my understood was kind of rock.

2580
02:26:34,760 --> 02:26:37,000
Speaker 1: It was rap rock, you know what I'm saying. I said,

2581
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:38,600
Speaker 1: it was kind of different. I said, you know, I said,

2582
02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:40,840
Speaker 1: we didn't. I said, O, it was just a rap song.

2583
02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:43,080
Speaker 1: We was just pretty much talking about you know. I mean,

2584
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:45,360
Speaker 1: it was almost like the same thing. But we went

2585
02:26:45,400 --> 02:26:48,400
Speaker 1: out and did the show at the Irvan Empathy. So

2586
02:26:49,160 --> 02:26:50,800
Speaker 1: it's just the five of us, you know, we don't

2587
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:52,800
Speaker 1: have no security, nothing to ship. So it was four

2588
02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:54,880
Speaker 1: of us, plus we had a little Jamaican neg that

2589
02:26:54,920 --> 02:26:56,800
Speaker 1: did on the hook for one of the songs or whatever.

2590
02:26:57,720 --> 02:27:01,280
Speaker 1: So when when when when I came with Madman, this

2591
02:27:01,400 --> 02:27:03,240
Speaker 1: was the time I guess where they was trying to

2592
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:06,560
Speaker 1: squash the blood and crypt the truth. He had like

2593
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:09,440
Speaker 1: a hundred niggas would I'm like so like one of

2594
02:27:09,440 --> 02:27:11,960
Speaker 1: theg was like, yo, I see what I should man,

2595
02:27:12,680 --> 02:27:15,960
Speaker 1: I said, ship Sometimes I think right, I'm like, funk right,

2596
02:27:16,000 --> 02:27:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean look now, my side of the story is this.

2597
02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:23,199
Speaker 1: When the ship happened, the word got out that RSO

2598
02:27:23,480 --> 02:27:26,560
Speaker 1: said that we I was the reason they got dropped

2599
02:27:27,160 --> 02:27:29,280
Speaker 1: right right right. But that's that's how it came at me.

2600
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:31,920
Speaker 1: So it was like your rs SO said something about

2601
02:27:31,959 --> 02:27:34,000
Speaker 1: you that the wait so like like I was telling

2602
02:27:34,040 --> 02:27:37,280
Speaker 1: them in my I keep everyone abbress of who we

2603
02:27:37,400 --> 02:27:39,640
Speaker 1: might have beefs this that you gotta so, I think

2604
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:41,880
Speaker 1: rs SO it popped up on our radar like it

2605
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:44,840
Speaker 1: it's r SO. Nigga said, some fly So then I'm

2606
02:27:44,879 --> 02:27:47,000
Speaker 1: at this place and they go there, they go right.

2607
02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:50,480
Speaker 1: But we felt it though, because I was like, look,

2608
02:27:50,720 --> 02:27:53,480
Speaker 1: I said, look, I said, look, I said, man, I said,

2609
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:57,400
Speaker 1: we gotta stay together, said nobody was whole body runs.

2610
02:27:58,680 --> 02:28:01,920
Speaker 1: What happens, We're gonna get mopped up together. Somebody running.

2611
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:04,480
Speaker 1: We can have a problem like niggas a little Jamaica

2612
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:06,320
Speaker 1: nigga was like, oh, I didn't even like he was like,

2613
02:28:06,800 --> 02:28:11,200
Speaker 1: what the fund did I get? MESSI He's like, I'm

2614
02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:14,320
Speaker 1: not even off. So like my niggas was, he wasn't

2615
02:28:14,360 --> 02:28:17,440
Speaker 1: even that mode. They identified him. So I'm gonna go

2616
02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:20,000
Speaker 1: over to you. No could your man came. He was

2617
02:28:20,040 --> 02:28:22,720
Speaker 1: like one. So I said, I'm gonna go there like

2618
02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:24,560
Speaker 1: y'all said, I'm gonna go over there. I'm gonna talk

2619
02:28:24,640 --> 02:28:26,520
Speaker 1: to the OI. We went over that talk and I

2620
02:28:26,640 --> 02:28:28,720
Speaker 1: never forget this, you said that. She was like, look, man,

2621
02:28:29,240 --> 02:28:31,200
Speaker 1: I ain't got no beef for nothing. Mess Man, you

2622
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:33,200
Speaker 1: see these things that's the Grape Street there that that

2623
02:28:33,360 --> 02:28:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm looking out. I'm like, yeah, you know what I'm

2624
02:28:35,480 --> 02:28:37,760
Speaker 1: looking at it, like yeah, I see it. It's like man,

2625
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:42,320
Speaker 1: funk that he's like, let's go kill some cops. Together said.

2626
02:28:43,879 --> 02:28:47,200
Speaker 1: I was like going to like, look, I'm not my

2627
02:28:47,320 --> 02:28:52,440
Speaker 1: beef is with you with you? And and and also

2628
02:28:52,560 --> 02:28:57,600
Speaker 1: I never, I never, I never really took secondhand information.

2629
02:28:58,080 --> 02:29:00,920
Speaker 1: You know, somebody say you said something, then I'm gonna

2630
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:02,720
Speaker 1: get you and I'm gonna see if you'll say it again,

2631
02:29:03,160 --> 02:29:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, because that cause niggas get killed over second

2632
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:08,840
Speaker 1: hand information. It wasn't real. So if I can't walk

2633
02:29:08,959 --> 02:29:10,760
Speaker 1: up to Ben and say, yo, what's really good? But

2634
02:29:10,920 --> 02:29:13,879
Speaker 1: I was really more or less like I ain't mad man.

2635
02:29:14,000 --> 02:29:16,720
Speaker 1: A ship went bad when my ship got banned, ship

2636
02:29:16,840 --> 02:29:19,080
Speaker 1: went bad for a lot of people, you know, and

2637
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:21,360
Speaker 1: I everybody said it was my fault, but I'm like, yo,

2638
02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:24,040
Speaker 1: this ship is real, right, we're real. Like so if

2639
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:26,119
Speaker 1: you guys have had heated at the cops and let's

2640
02:29:26,160 --> 02:29:28,560
Speaker 1: go get down. Because I was always like that with niggas.

2641
02:29:28,600 --> 02:29:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, you so quick, you're killing another homie over

2642
02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:33,320
Speaker 1: an orange soda. But when they come, you run like

2643
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:37,480
Speaker 1: where's your gangster? And to this day, yeah, they had

2644
02:29:37,520 --> 02:29:40,040
Speaker 1: the American flag with all red and blue. Remember the

2645
02:29:40,120 --> 02:29:42,800
Speaker 1: stage turn like that was history. A lot of people

2646
02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:44,960
Speaker 1: didn't even like that wasn't documented, but you had the

2647
02:29:44,959 --> 02:29:48,199
Speaker 1: bloods and crypts on stage. They had American from big flag.

2648
02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:50,200
Speaker 1: It was biggest, about as many niggas more than here,

2649
02:29:52,840 --> 02:29:54,640
Speaker 1: So it was I mean, it was that was an

2650
02:29:54,640 --> 02:29:57,440
Speaker 1: ill moment. It was a moment where l a command

2651
02:29:57,480 --> 02:29:58,960
Speaker 1: you for that that was big to do it that

2652
02:29:59,080 --> 02:30:01,440
Speaker 1: that hadn't been done before as far as I knew,

2653
02:30:01,680 --> 02:30:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to try to get the l

2654
02:30:03,959 --> 02:30:07,280
Speaker 1: A gangs to to stop killing each other. I still

2655
02:30:07,560 --> 02:30:09,560
Speaker 1: this is like all in the same gang. Now this

2656
02:30:09,720 --> 02:30:12,640
Speaker 1: is during the ninety two this is a truce, which

2657
02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:15,000
Speaker 1: which truth is? What's going on prior to that? And

2658
02:30:15,440 --> 02:30:18,080
Speaker 1: why were you on that record? Now that was after

2659
02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:22,000
Speaker 1: I was after all that the same game. But you

2660
02:30:22,160 --> 02:30:25,080
Speaker 1: was the reason Boston started when when Colors came out,

2661
02:30:25,720 --> 02:30:30,080
Speaker 1: that's when everything started forgot about After after Colors everything started,

2662
02:30:30,920 --> 02:30:33,720
Speaker 1: everything started going like in the same to Boston when

2663
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:36,720
Speaker 1: Colors came out. Then that's when really I noticed Boston

2664
02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:38,680
Speaker 1: started ganging up. You know what I'm saying. It was

2665
02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:41,920
Speaker 1: right after Colors. Colors, Like I mean this be from

2666
02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:43,840
Speaker 1: the movie theaters. Thing was going crazy when that ship

2667
02:30:43,959 --> 02:30:45,280
Speaker 1: came out. You don't you know the thing of it

2668
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:49,400
Speaker 1: is with me, man, that's like I'm responsible for a

2669
02:30:49,520 --> 02:30:52,960
Speaker 1: lot of negative ship that happened. But really I've always

2670
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:55,800
Speaker 1: been the person that's really tried to get peace. You know,

2671
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:59,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, my messages can be misconstrued,

2672
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:03,600
Speaker 1: know because I can go into that mode, but that's

2673
02:31:03,640 --> 02:31:06,200
Speaker 1: not really my get down. My get down is not

2674
02:31:06,440 --> 02:31:08,360
Speaker 1: that And when people meet me, they go, wow, you

2675
02:31:08,480 --> 02:31:11,560
Speaker 1: so mild manage you so cool? You know where'd all

2676
02:31:11,600 --> 02:31:14,720
Speaker 1: this gangster ship come from? I say, well, people like

2677
02:31:14,879 --> 02:31:17,920
Speaker 1: me are the ones you gotta look out for. Then

2678
02:31:17,920 --> 02:31:19,840
Speaker 1: they can walking around talking all tough and ship like that.

2679
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:22,160
Speaker 1: He doesn't have any power. That's why I don't understand

2680
02:31:22,160 --> 02:31:23,920
Speaker 1: why Donald Trump, now that he has all, this party

2681
02:31:23,959 --> 02:31:31,440
Speaker 1: needs to counter because when you have that ability, then

2682
02:31:31,480 --> 02:31:35,160
Speaker 1: you don't need to raise your voice Twitter. You can

2683
02:31:35,240 --> 02:31:39,960
Speaker 1: just become calm because it's it's nothing, you know. So yeah,

2684
02:31:40,120 --> 02:31:41,760
Speaker 1: you know a lot now. Nigga see me now and

2685
02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm not the normal rapper. They're like, why you ain't. Yeah,

2686
02:31:45,040 --> 02:31:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't. I don't need to be like that.

2687
02:31:48,040 --> 02:31:51,039
Speaker 1: You know. That's all that extra ship right then that's

2688
02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:55,879
Speaker 1: it's over different different, but the same ship can happen.

2689
02:31:56,000 --> 02:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Niggers can bring the gravity. I just want to I

2690
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:05,120
Speaker 1: just want to do real appreciation. I've seen my brother

2691
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:08,520
Speaker 1: Chin BEng is here, my brother be Strows. Heirs want

2692
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:12,840
Speaker 1: to diego y'all, Benzino, it's a great podcast going on,

2693
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:18,120
Speaker 1: righted team. I can't thank you enough. I can never

2694
02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:20,400
Speaker 1: thank you enough for anything you ever did, because you

2695
02:32:20,480 --> 02:32:24,160
Speaker 1: know what, I could never repay you for anything you

2696
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:31,080
Speaker 1: ever did, relax, for the children, for the coach. I

2697
02:32:31,120 --> 02:32:33,240
Speaker 1: can never repay you for anything you ever did to me.

2698
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:36,320
Speaker 1: And you know how I would pay you with that.

2699
02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:39,120
Speaker 1: I would pay you with that is because I always

2700
02:32:39,160 --> 02:32:41,560
Speaker 1: do something for somebody who could never repays a game.

2701
02:32:42,200 --> 02:32:45,000
Speaker 1: That's real talk paying for its real pay it forward.

2702
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:48,320
Speaker 1: Because you're so big, I can't even It's nothing I

2703
02:32:48,400 --> 02:32:50,480
Speaker 1: can ever offer you, can never offer you money, I

2704
02:32:50,560 --> 02:32:52,720
Speaker 1: can never offer you anything. All I can offer you

2705
02:32:52,840 --> 02:32:55,280
Speaker 1: is real friends. But it's always a treat when players meet.

2706
02:32:55,320 --> 02:32:57,200
Speaker 1: It's always a treat when you get around cat to

2707
02:32:57,320 --> 02:32:59,600
Speaker 1: your own caliber and you can chop it up and

2708
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:02,960
Speaker 1: it ain't nobody bragging and talking about that unnecessary ship

2709
02:33:03,160 --> 02:33:06,640
Speaker 1: because at some point everybody has everything. So there's nothing

2710
02:33:06,680 --> 02:33:09,800
Speaker 1: to brag about now because we all have everything. So

2711
02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:12,760
Speaker 1: now what is what are you talking about? What have

2712
02:33:12,879 --> 02:33:15,160
Speaker 1: you done? What are you what are you giving back?

2713
02:33:15,320 --> 02:33:17,800
Speaker 1: You know that's how really wealthy people bragg. You know

2714
02:33:17,920 --> 02:33:19,840
Speaker 1: that they talked about how much money they gave away.

2715
02:33:20,280 --> 02:33:21,840
Speaker 1: That's not what they have because we all got the

2716
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:23,879
Speaker 1: yaps and books. So what are you giving? All? Getting

2717
02:33:23,879 --> 02:33:25,800
Speaker 1: away ten million? This year? I gave back fifty minute

2718
02:33:25,800 --> 02:33:28,440
Speaker 1: that's why. That's how the Baller's brand. You know, we're

2719
02:33:28,440 --> 02:33:30,680
Speaker 1: still on the nigger side trying to get something. You

2720
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:33,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We ain't there yet. But my

2721
02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:36,680
Speaker 1: thing is iced Tea is really just a person is

2722
02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:40,000
Speaker 1: trying to show people there's no limits. Everywhere you want

2723
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:42,320
Speaker 1: to go, you can do it. We all come from

2724
02:33:42,400 --> 02:33:45,480
Speaker 1: the hood, and you set your own limits. You know,

2725
02:33:45,520 --> 02:33:47,360
Speaker 1: if you listen to the crowd, you're gonna end up

2726
02:33:47,400 --> 02:33:50,600
Speaker 1: with them. You did, you can do whatever the funk

2727
02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:53,520
Speaker 1: you want. And uh, you know, you just gotta drop

2728
02:33:53,520 --> 02:33:56,000
Speaker 1: a lot of that negative ship. You just gotta drop

2729
02:33:56,040 --> 02:33:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot of that boisterous, arrogant ship that gets you

2730
02:33:59,120 --> 02:34:02,200
Speaker 1: shot and you getting You just learned the mellow out.

2731
02:34:02,560 --> 02:34:05,040
Speaker 1: And all of us in this room should live as

2732
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:07,080
Speaker 1: long as we want. We shouldn't go to prison. All

2733
02:34:07,160 --> 02:34:08,920
Speaker 1: that we passed. Once you get out of your twenties,

2734
02:34:09,680 --> 02:34:11,480
Speaker 1: that's the kill zone right there. If you make it

2735
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:16,240
Speaker 1: out of that, there's no Now you're o g playing

2736
02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:19,640
Speaker 1: Xbox nor that's all I do. I plays a one

2737
02:34:19,720 --> 02:34:23,080
Speaker 1: year old. Let me just say this and this right

2738
02:34:23,400 --> 02:34:27,280
Speaker 1: and the one year old. Here's the problem is, they

2739
02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:30,440
Speaker 1: never expected us to make twenty one now after we

2740
02:34:30,600 --> 02:34:33,760
Speaker 1: make past twenty five. Now they call us a O G.

2741
02:34:34,240 --> 02:34:36,280
Speaker 1: But back in the days, they used to call your

2742
02:34:36,320 --> 02:34:39,480
Speaker 1: O G after thirty five forty, but now they call

2743
02:34:39,560 --> 02:34:47,760
Speaker 1: you G. Isn't that messing up? I'm understand this, man,

2744
02:34:47,800 --> 02:34:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold I'm on another channel, right, I'm on

2745
02:34:50,480 --> 02:34:54,560
Speaker 1: the channel. It it's called nigger as I funk with like.

2746
02:34:54,760 --> 02:34:57,640
Speaker 1: And that's only people care about. Can you send me that? Yeah,

2747
02:34:57,680 --> 02:35:03,000
Speaker 1: you want me? Everything else is development and they can

2748
02:35:03,080 --> 02:35:05,000
Speaker 1: come up and they can learn. If they don't want

2749
02:35:05,040 --> 02:35:07,039
Speaker 1: to take advice, they can learn the way we learn.

2750
02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:09,160
Speaker 1: You didn't what I'm saying. Might have to make a

2751
02:35:09,440 --> 02:35:12,360
Speaker 1: detour through the penitentty, but they're gonna figure it out.

2752
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:21,240
Speaker 1: I think it's and that's only prema. Let me just

2753
02:35:21,320 --> 02:35:24,360
Speaker 1: say something. I can never thank you for anything you

2754
02:35:24,480 --> 02:35:27,000
Speaker 1: ever did for me, and you continue to do it

2755
02:35:27,120 --> 02:35:31,400
Speaker 1: for me. You've never fronted on me. I really really

2756
02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:35,600
Speaker 1: appreciate everything. I really love you as a person. I

2757
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:37,880
Speaker 1: love you as an artist. You already know that. I know.

2758
02:35:38,680 --> 02:35:41,640
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you when we go downstairs, I could

2759
02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:44,040
Speaker 1: probably know more l everything you know to your own ship.

2760
02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:50,320
Speaker 1: Stop it no, no, because the way he called his verses. No,

2761
02:35:50,560 --> 02:35:55,360
Speaker 1: he really know. I'm not gonna take that. At the

2762
02:35:55,440 --> 02:35:57,480
Speaker 1: end of the day, I iced tea big up to

2763
02:35:57,520 --> 02:36:00,480
Speaker 1: your beautiful wife. Yeah yeah, everything is good. Go Actually

2764
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:02,640
Speaker 1: no coco questions and one of that, as you know

2765
02:36:02,720 --> 02:36:08,879
Speaker 1: why this is hip hop right. So to me, you love,

2766
02:36:09,640 --> 02:36:17,640
Speaker 1: open that door, you open that door, you open that door.

2767
02:36:19,879 --> 02:36:25,000
Speaker 1: But to your wife, um, Chanelle is in the building.

2768
02:36:25,080 --> 02:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I got a one year old daughter, look y'all. Just

2769
02:36:29,640 --> 02:36:34,280
Speaker 1: like like you, I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm just very

2770
02:36:34,400 --> 02:36:36,879
Speaker 1: fortunate to still be here, to still be in the game.

2771
02:36:37,040 --> 02:36:38,760
Speaker 1: I never wanted to be at the top of the game.

2772
02:36:38,760 --> 02:36:40,360
Speaker 1: I just I always wanted to be in the game.

2773
02:36:40,480 --> 02:36:43,240
Speaker 1: Just bubble, you know, and just chill. I'm about to

2774
02:36:43,320 --> 02:36:48,200
Speaker 1: turn fifty nine. I didn't know that I'm standing in

2775
02:36:48,240 --> 02:36:50,840
Speaker 1: the ways answering the way you know we do. I'm

2776
02:36:50,879 --> 02:37:02,600
Speaker 1: not going to nigga. So just from that age, just

2777
02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:05,200
Speaker 1: from my age, my perspective is gonna be a little

2778
02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:07,680
Speaker 1: bit deeper. The people I grew up with is a

2779
02:37:07,760 --> 02:37:10,000
Speaker 1: little bit different. So that's kind of like you know,

2780
02:37:10,160 --> 02:37:12,320
Speaker 1: you say you cut from a different cloth, cut from

2781
02:37:12,320 --> 02:37:17,400
Speaker 1: a different cloth. So I hold that code that all

2782
02:37:17,480 --> 02:37:20,720
Speaker 1: that I've always held it. And I was telling them earlier.

2783
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:23,400
Speaker 1: The only thing you leave on earth is your your

2784
02:37:23,440 --> 02:37:29,120
Speaker 1: reputation and respect that I've earned. So my kids forget

2785
02:37:29,200 --> 02:37:37,280
Speaker 1: the money, Jack Jack, tell them we're coming down. Tell him,

2786
02:37:37,879 --> 02:37:40,640
Speaker 1: but I'm in it like this, right. The only thing

2787
02:37:40,800 --> 02:37:44,800
Speaker 1: that you have in life is your name and your respecting,

2788
02:37:44,879 --> 02:37:48,040
Speaker 1: your honor, and with my kids, regardless how much money,

2789
02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:50,240
Speaker 1: I can live, and it doesn't matter. If my son

2790
02:37:50,440 --> 02:37:53,280
Speaker 1: says I'm little ice and they say your father was

2791
02:37:53,360 --> 02:37:56,440
Speaker 1: a sucker, then that's his life. He's gonna live under that.

2792
02:37:56,879 --> 02:37:59,520
Speaker 1: So if I'm an honorable cat, people are gonna look

2793
02:37:59,520 --> 02:38:01,840
Speaker 1: out for them. They're gonna go, that's your dad, you know,

2794
02:38:01,959 --> 02:38:03,960
Speaker 1: the same way we look out for biggest kids to say,

2795
02:38:03,959 --> 02:38:06,160
Speaker 1: way we look out. And that's what I'm all about.

2796
02:38:06,200 --> 02:38:10,760
Speaker 1: It's b maintaining my respect and my honor for my kids.

2797
02:38:11,160 --> 02:38:13,160
Speaker 1: That's all. It ain't about the money. It's not that

2798
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:15,800
Speaker 1: that ship, you know, all that ship comes and goes.

2799
02:38:16,040 --> 02:38:17,920
Speaker 1: It's all about that. As long as you've a player

2800
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:21,240
Speaker 1: has his health and his freedom, anything can happen. Right,

2801
02:38:21,480 --> 02:38:23,640
Speaker 1: If you have your health and your freedom, that's all

2802
02:38:23,720 --> 02:38:27,280
Speaker 1: that mattered. So I'm at home playing Xbox eating cockles.

2803
02:38:27,320 --> 02:38:29,280
Speaker 1: I take my black ass the law and order, I

2804
02:38:29,440 --> 02:38:32,400
Speaker 1: come back home my motherfucking business. I'm trying to stay

2805
02:38:32,440 --> 02:38:34,040
Speaker 1: the funk out the way. I don't want to be

2806
02:38:34,160 --> 02:38:36,840
Speaker 1: on your blogs, and none of that old bullshit pop

2807
02:38:36,879 --> 02:38:39,360
Speaker 1: out when I've got something to sell. When I'm pushing

2808
02:38:39,440 --> 02:38:42,800
Speaker 1: something other than that, I'm cool. I'm chilling, you know,

2809
02:38:43,080 --> 02:38:45,960
Speaker 1: because we all got everything we need. Remember this, we

2810
02:38:46,120 --> 02:38:49,440
Speaker 1: all got everything we need. It's all about now what

2811
02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:52,680
Speaker 1: you want and you I can't tell you what you want.

2812
02:38:52,800 --> 02:38:54,120
Speaker 1: We got what we need. What do you need? To

2813
02:38:54,160 --> 02:38:57,200
Speaker 1: pair of pants, some shoes, a car, and rent and food.

2814
02:38:57,280 --> 02:39:00,199
Speaker 1: That's all you need. Everything else is what you want.

2815
02:39:00,280 --> 02:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Some good with that, right, that's all you need. But

2816
02:39:02,120 --> 02:39:05,440
Speaker 1: we got that. So your life is based around what

2817
02:39:05,600 --> 02:39:08,160
Speaker 1: you want and and and you don't know what I want.

2818
02:39:08,440 --> 02:39:17,199
Speaker 1: I might just want to chill and watch TV from

2819
02:39:17,240 --> 02:39:19,560
Speaker 1: the bottom of my heart. And I'm gonna speak from

2820
02:39:19,600 --> 02:39:22,879
Speaker 1: my partner as well, both partners. Look, it's kind of awkward.

2821
02:39:24,040 --> 02:39:35,200
Speaker 1: This is a religious experience here, partner, partner, somebody here.

2822
02:39:35,600 --> 02:39:38,720
Speaker 1: You'll pay attention, but but half for all of us.

2823
02:39:39,720 --> 02:39:41,880
Speaker 1: We want to thank you because you know why. And

2824
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:45,519
Speaker 1: then and we also understand that you had started your podcast,

2825
02:39:46,200 --> 02:39:48,400
Speaker 1: you had did your podcast, but you need to stop

2826
02:39:48,520 --> 02:39:50,840
Speaker 1: that and come with drink Champ that one with you

2827
02:39:51,160 --> 02:39:53,640
Speaker 1: I did. I did fifty nine episode and this is

2828
02:39:53,720 --> 02:39:57,080
Speaker 1: where we're doing. I am Show Night and Puff Daddy together.

2829
02:39:57,360 --> 02:40:00,120
Speaker 1: I love it. If they had never had be if

2830
02:40:00,120 --> 02:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Sugar Knight and Park Daddy got together, this is what

2831
02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:17,200
Speaker 1: drink chat that bird is. Come on myself, I said,

2832
02:40:17,560 --> 02:40:21,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much because you know why Ice, there

2833
02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:25,440
Speaker 1: really isn't no other platform a hip hop. Now we

2834
02:40:25,520 --> 02:40:29,720
Speaker 1: will get real talk. But not only that, we praise

2835
02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:34,800
Speaker 1: our legend because every time in our game, after you

2836
02:40:34,879 --> 02:40:39,680
Speaker 1: get ten years, you're finished. And every other music or

2837
02:40:39,800 --> 02:40:43,440
Speaker 1: genre of anything, do you get ten years, you're a legend.

2838
02:40:43,640 --> 02:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Well you come on, man, when you get ten years

2839
02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:48,920
Speaker 1: in hip hop, they say, and we don't want to

2840
02:40:49,000 --> 02:40:51,480
Speaker 1: do that over here. That's another place, you know. My

2841
02:40:51,840 --> 02:40:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if I meant George Clinton, I know George Clinton.

2842
02:40:54,720 --> 02:40:58,640
Speaker 1: We got too much money he got He's motherfucking George Clinton.

2843
02:40:59,320 --> 02:41:01,480
Speaker 1: You gotta And that's how I mean. You know, I'm

2844
02:41:01,520 --> 02:41:05,840
Speaker 1: not a distance cat. And just so you know, are

2845
02:41:06,320 --> 02:41:09,360
Speaker 1: George Clayton and hip hop? Yeah? Make some noise. I

2846
02:41:09,360 --> 02:41:15,360
Speaker 1: ain't not only that you, you the kids. This this's

2847
02:41:15,400 --> 02:41:20,320
Speaker 1: my kids. That's my children all. They might not look

2848
02:41:20,400 --> 02:41:22,879
Speaker 1: like it, but they all my children. That's that's all

2849
02:41:22,959 --> 02:41:26,480
Speaker 1: my child. But you are the George Clinton of our

2850
02:41:26,600 --> 02:41:28,760
Speaker 1: hip hop and we're gonna get you to praise you,

2851
02:41:29,320 --> 02:41:32,920
Speaker 1: keep you alive. Come and make sure thank you. Goddamne

2852
02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:38,080
Speaker 1: makes your Nord drinking looks like my little nephew