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And when 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: I speak to people about buying real estate, they're more 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: fearful in because they don't know nothing or they have 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: lack of knowledge. In a couple particular areas. So whoever 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: has fear, you got to really do a deep dive 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: in yourself and say, why am I scared to buy property? 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: Why am I scared to invest? And kind of work 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: your way back from there. But I find it the 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: more you're putting into your education about home buying, about credit, 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: about if you want to do rehabs, if you want 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: to do new construction, whatever it is, the more knowledge 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: you have, the easier it's going to be for you. 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: It's not going to be a better Roses or something 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: like that, right, but they'll be a little bit more 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: easier for you. But also managing your expectations and try 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: to take your emotions out of this. I think Rashad 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: had a famous quote. He told me want is no 56 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: emotions in anything basically, right, I'm paraphrasing he says something different. 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: I can't remember word for word, but basically, you got 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: to take your emotions out of the real estate game 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: or anything investing. 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: Right. 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: You got to look at you got to look at 62 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: even if you're buy your first home, looking at this 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: as an investment for you in the future, and buying 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: the property as if you're an investor, and making sure 65 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: you buy and right, So as long as you do that, 66 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: then you shouldn't have fair. 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 4: So Mo and then Matt, you can chime in it 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 4: on this if you can well home refinancing, right, can 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: you just let's give an overview of refinancing. And for 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: the person that might be thinking about refinancing, they might 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: have heard it on television, but they kind of a 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: little nervous. What advice could we give somebody that's out 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: there that might have a home and is considering taking 74 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: the refinance route. 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: I've actually been having a lot of people want to 76 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 5: refinance because of that record equity, even before the rates 77 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: started going down a little bit. I think it really 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 5: takes you to analyze what's good for you. If you 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 5: have a two point seventy five rate, we got to 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: figure out why do you want to refinance? Like if 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 5: Matt said, its owner occupied and what have you? In 82 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 5: the rate is just over six percent, you're going to 83 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: take your current balance up a notch to the current rate. 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 5: So what does that actually look like? What are your 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 5: reasons for refinancing, what will you benefit from and does 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 5: it financially make sense? I think that's probably the biggest 87 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 5: assessment we're making. We're doing assessments for people to see 88 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 5: what makes sense. Does it make sense to take the 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 5: equity out with the heat locker, Does it really make 90 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: sense to do that? Refine and making sure that they 91 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 5: don't make a decision that isn't good for that long game. 92 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: So the home equity lot of credit for people that 93 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: aren't familiar, that is okay. So you buy a home 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: and it's worth you buy a home for three hundred thousand, right, 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: and then five years at home is worth six hundred thousand, 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: So you effectively have three hundred thousand dollars of profit 97 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: inside the home baked in, right, But you can't do 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: anything with that unless you tap into it. So if 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: you refinance it, right, you effectively get a new mortgage 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: in a sense you're at it either a higher or 101 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: a lower interest rate, depending on where the interest rates are. 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: But you can take out that three hundred thousand dollars 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: and use it for whatever you want, right and then, 104 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: But if you get a he lock then that's just 105 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: a line of credit where if you need to take 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 4: fifty thousand, you could you have three hundred thousand dollars 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: available or like two fifty because I don't think they 108 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: give you one hundred percent, right, and you can use 109 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: up to like, let's say, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: as you choose. But if you don't need to use it, 111 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 4: or if you don't need to use the whole thing, 112 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: then it's like a lot of credit that you can 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: use at any point in time, right, correct? But does 114 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: your interest rate change with the he lock? 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 5: Also not the rate on the mortgage you already have. 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 5: So that's why I said it's more of an analysis, 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 5: because if I'll give you an example, my interest rate 118 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 5: on my mortgage is three percent. Did take out a 119 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: helock right after I did my refinance for two hundred 120 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 5: thousand because I wanted to have my equity on tap 121 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 5: when I needed it, So it's sitting there. I haven't 122 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: used that helock yet, but I can use it as 123 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: I need. But I'm going to keep that three percent 124 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 5: interest rate. If rates or when rates renormalize, it might 125 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 5: make sense if I use that money to add them 126 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: together and refinance for me personally, But because of where 127 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 5: my balance is at, it doesn't make sense for me 128 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: to refinance at a higher rate right now because I 129 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 5: don't have anything to pay off as far as debts 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 5: and things like that. Sometimes if you're refinancing and you're 131 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 5: going to consolidate long term smart debts, maybe increasing your 132 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 5: rate works. But we analyze that to make sure we're 133 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 5: not just refinancing for a sport, is what I like 134 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 5: to call it, Like what are we doing this for? 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 5: You know, So tapping that equity if that's what you 136 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: want to do to do home improvements, looking at it 137 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 5: both ways is probably smart from a mathematical standpoint. I've 138 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 5: looked at some people and I could end up increasing 139 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 5: their payments by thirteen hundred a month just to get 140 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 5: them fifteen to twenty thousand dollars. That wouldn't be a 141 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 5: smart refinance. So I give them alternative options to maybe 142 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 5: accomplish what they want to accomplish. 143 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'll add on to the helock conversation is 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: anytime you're doing the home akulina credit, understand it's a 145 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: second lean and you have to be very careful with 146 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: you know helocks in general, right, member, this is the 147 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: church's money, this is your house money. So if you're 148 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: taking out money and you're going to use it, make 149 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: sure you have a plan either investment into a business, 150 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: more real estate, stocks, options, whatever, but understand the risk 151 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: that comes with any type of investment. If you're using 152 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: a helock, it's not guaranteed, especially if you're doing real estate. 153 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: Tennis are not guaranteed to pay you. But I love 154 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: helocks and the amount of equity tappable equity that's out 155 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: there right now is absolutely I mean, it's insane. It's 156 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: record breaking right now. So I would advise anybody right 157 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: now just look into, like Mo said, tap into the equity. 158 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: Even if you don't use it right now, you can 159 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: have it sit on the sideline because right now you 160 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: can't go to your mailbox and put your ATM card 161 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: and get equity out of your home. You have to 162 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: apply for it, and the banks have to be willing 163 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: to do on it. Right they have to have an 164 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: appetite for helocks. Right now, in the current market that 165 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: we're in, banks lenders have an appetite for helocks. So 166 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: everyone who has home and has equity and you can 167 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: qualify for a helock, you should look into taking out 168 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: a helock. Just proceedable caution, make sure you know exactly 169 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: what you're doing, because if the market does go the 170 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: wrong direction, if the banks start seeing there is a recession, 171 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: they might start cutting back on some of these products. 172 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: This happens all the time in the industry with godlines changed. 173 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: So just because something a product is available today at scale, 174 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: it might not be available when you really need it. 175 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: So the best thing you could do is tap into 176 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: that equity so you can reinvest and make more money. 177 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: In my opinion, but everybody. 178 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 6: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with repel being a 179 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 6: child in Massachusetts. 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