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Speaker 4: Greetings and welcome in hour two of the program, Mike

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Speaker 4: Harmon alongside Arnie Span You're in for Jason Smith. Tonight,

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Speaker 4: Smith out Gallivantik in the Greater State of Michigan. So

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Speaker 4: if you see him out there, a guy in a

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Speaker 4: Mets Syracuse Nix hybrid. Funny, they're all the same colors,

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Speaker 4: so you can just mix and match. Don't really have

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Speaker 4: to do a whole lot with your wardrobe there. But

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Speaker 4: if you see him at how about a Fresco, point

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Speaker 4: him out and send send notes our way. He's probably

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Speaker 4: outside of another white castle. As we see.

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Speaker 5: He loves Detroit, loves the vacation there.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, kid rock One's saying, Arnie, if Heaven

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Speaker 4: ain't a lot like Detroit, I don't want to go.

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Speaker 5: That's what I was just about to say.

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Speaker 4: We are you gonna start singing it to me like

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Speaker 4: fire on the Mountain? Is that where we go? Look,

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Speaker 4: we got some budding scandals in the National Football League,

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Speaker 4: plenty of chaos there between the Union and now another

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Speaker 4: issue that is a squeers head. But first, I mean,

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Speaker 4: in the update that Steve de Sager just gave you,

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Speaker 4: I mean it, we'd be remiss if we didn't celebrate

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Speaker 4: the fact that Kurtz has gone six for six with

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Speaker 4: eight RBI for the A's and a fifteen to two

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Speaker 4: rout of the Astros with four home runs.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Now his stat line if you bring it up, well

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Speaker 4: you know you're conjuring evil. Six at bats, six runs

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Speaker 4: scored in six hits. That's the way it reads in

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Speaker 4: the box score before you get to the eight RBI

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Speaker 4: and four home runs. But four home run games. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we just do not see this every.

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Speaker 5: Everyone seen it. Break up, sure, break up the record.

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Speaker 4: We have four one game, sure, sure, sure, I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to thank Michael jack Schmid I think has one in

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Speaker 4: his history.

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Speaker 3: There you go, it's going to be a short list.

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Speaker 4: Well, I also know that if I give it and

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Speaker 4: let it breathe long enough, we're going to have Steve

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Speaker 4: de Sager is going to know those guys.

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Speaker 3: Know he's a wizard. We've had this conversation before.

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Speaker 4: According to a quick review, we've had nineteen instances in

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Speaker 4: the history of Major League Baseball before tonight.

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Speaker 6: Four home one games. Yep, GETI with Suarez. Hugenio uh, Henio, Henny.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to channel my inner Manci Milanas because she

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Speaker 6: said it just so brilliantly.

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Speaker 3: He is much better than well then, look she's got

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Speaker 5: He did it this year. I didn't even know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so he did do this chair, But I mean,

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Speaker 4: you've got some of the all time greats that have

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Speaker 3: Willie Mays did it.

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Speaker 4: Bob Horner, one of the classic guys from the Braves

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Speaker 4: back in the day, guy who made me believe I

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Speaker 4: could be a big baseball player. Why because I was

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Speaker 4: big and a baseball player and then I stopped growing.

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Speaker 4: Michael Schmidt and Michael Jack Schmidt, Gil Hodges, lu gerrig

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Speaker 3: I mean some legends there.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's certainly not happening a lot recently, but

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Speaker 4: nineteen times before tonight in the history of Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 3: We celebrate the rarity. It's like the other night right.

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Speaker 4: Where you have the catcher's interference and a walk off

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Speaker 4: that hadn't happened since nineteen seventy one when it happened

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Speaker 4: against Johnny Bench. Oh my, so you know you're seeing

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Speaker 4: like baseball. We talk about it a lot. Jason and I.

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Speaker 4: He had a conversation back when he used to do

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Speaker 4: an evening show at the Other the Other Shop, and

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Speaker 4: Jason Stark said, look, every night you watch baseball, uh

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Speaker 3: And ever tonight we give you a little of that you.

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Speaker 5: Ever do like unbreakable records in baseball, or like I

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Speaker 3: Rby You want to do some list radio?

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Speaker 5: No, I just know, but I mean, just you know,

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Speaker 4: got a hundred bucks for it. Was I'm an old man,

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Speaker 4: you look young, I look spry. I'm a powerful and

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Speaker 4: you know what, you know what.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised has stood all this time as Hack Wilson's

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Speaker 3: The way the well.

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Speaker 4: But you had a lot, Yeah, but you had a

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Speaker 4: Not many guys draw walks with great frequency, going up,

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Speaker 3: Uh so you gotta so you've got that kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: So you've got a lot of free swingers, which means, look,

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Speaker 5: There was that stat that you'll still Smith the catcher,

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Speaker 4: Well, but look at what you just did. You just

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Speaker 3: Know Brady or Mahome.

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Speaker 4: Yeahs, like you picked four of the greatest hitters the

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, Tody Guynn was just doesn'believe.

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Speaker 5: The stats you can give him about his strikeouts in

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Speaker 3: Well, to put.

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Speaker 4: A little pin in this and to give you some

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Speaker 3: Hundred and sixty five.

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Speaker 4: Ajan Gonzalez season, we're on bays.

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Speaker 5: People were getting walked ahead of them, so they were,

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what that ninety eight season, man, you

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I mean, it just captivated a nation, and

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Speaker 3: A Marvel movie after one off season? Any loved it?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, then they had the braves pitchers with

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Speaker 4: But hey, we've got a big scandal in the National

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Speaker 4: much as anybody. We'll get to the union part of

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Speaker 4: it in a minute. But the NFL was fining roughly

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Speaker 4: one hundred players and two dozen club employees for violating

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Speaker 4: the league policy by selling Super Bowl fifty nine tickets

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Speaker 4: for above face value. This coming from the Associated Press

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Speaker 4: they was selling two said the players who resold them

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Speaker 3: What a deterrent, since.

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Speaker 4: They made far more than one and a half times

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Speaker 4: the face value. Have you ever gone into the secondary

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Speaker 4: market or a Super Bowl as a guy who paid

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Speaker 4: We're talking three and a half to four times your

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Speaker 4: desperation moment. Club employees who violated the policy will be

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Speaker 4: The league still completing its investigation, but this goes back.

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Speaker 4: We saw this years ago. Mike Tice, right, offensive line coach,

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Speaker 5: Right right. So you buy a pair of tickets, let's

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Speaker 5: How about giving it to a super fan of your team,

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, don't do that, because that means if

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Speaker 5: So let me just get this right. I got fired

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Speaker 5: these these guys make millions of dollars and they why.

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Speaker 4: Not everybody makes millions of dollars two. You don't know

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Speaker 5: And then I don't care who do right? This is?

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Speaker 5: That's not the point. The point is it was a

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Speaker 4: Are a lot of those tickets you might have sold

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Speaker 3: Well you know what, that league doesn't know that. How

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Speaker 4: Well, your buddy really wanted to go to the game,

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Speaker 5: Uh please.

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Speaker 4: My point just being you can't You can't monitor every

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Speaker 4: But in the absence of that, we're talking about the

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Speaker 4: you can't go like if you're.

440
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Speaker 5: Going for one of the diet Look, man, if you're going.

441
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 4: To the marathon, you can't run all twenty six to

442
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 4: the first day out.

443
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 5: No you can't. You can't.

444
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 4: Hey, you're just not and you're not built for that. Likewise,

445
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 4: watching three hours of the Hall of Fame game, our

446
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,479
Speaker 4: buddy Justin Prosberg, our executive producer, he'll be there ready

447
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 4: and to cover that and go through the process. Antonio

448
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: Gates going in. This is a year that if the

449
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 4: schedule had worked out, some stuff with the kids and

450
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 4: some responsibilities, going for Steve McMichael would have been, you know,

451
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 4: my run. But you know I've already commissioned him to

452
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 4: buy me any and all merchandise related to those Bears

453
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 4: and of course the Four Horsemen, because we celebrate all

454
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: things pop culture and wrestling on this show as well.

455
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 5: I would have liked to go on to that. I

456
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 5: know you said earlier you went to the Baseball Hall

457
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 5: of Fame.

458
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 4: You've been to the Hall of fame induction ceremonies a

459
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 4: couple of times, and I've.

460
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Speaker 5: Lived right through it. I've driven right back.

461
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Cooperstown, well, you know what. Stop

462
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: to get out and smell the roses.

463
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 4: But during induction week, you want to talk about a celebration.

464
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: And it's one of those things that I encourage. Here's

465
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 4: your public service announcement where I sound like nostalgic old

466
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 4: man of hey remember when. But when you can get

467
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 4: all those guys together, right, the living players come back

468
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of autograph signings. Yes, you'll pay

469
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: more for the more recent inductees. Why they made more

470
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: money and to get them to cross the street, it's

471
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Speaker 4: gonna cost a little bit more. But for the veterans

472
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 4: that are still showing up setting up a card table.

473
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Speaker 4: One of my favorite memories. I've got the All Century team.

474
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: They put out a coffee table book. It was fifty bucks.

475
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: My brother had an opportunity. They did three big signings.

476
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 4: It was Willie Mays and Hank Aaron together.

477
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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

478
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 4: So he goes to Chicago and he's able to get

479
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 4: a book for himself and he gets me one.

480
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 5: Oh correct, And so I have it I'm.

481
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: Looking and it's great, right. So it's chronicling the five tools,

482
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: all the great pictures, the roster for each position, all

483
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 4: of that, some great quotes and whatever, and I decided.

484
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 5: I just sold the pizza, like the bitcoin guy.

485
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: Hey hey, hey, hey, no no no, no, Well, I mean

486
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 4: look at the time, and even now you still have

487
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 4: votes saying hey, go buy your pizza instead of keeping

488
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 4: the bitcoin. We're not going to have that conversation here.

489
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 4: All I know is right now, the value of a

490
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 4: bitcoin is pretty healthy if you look at the marketplace

491
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: these days. But the point being that we moved out

492
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: to the upstate New York for a while. My ex

493
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 4: wife had a job with the GE Research Center in Schenectady, Niskyyuna,

494
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 4: And that meant Cooperstown was just a hop, skip and

495
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 4: a throw. And they had a lot of movie nights

496
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: and seminars through the year surrounding different parts of the collection,

497
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 4: and I got to know people, so you got to

498
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: see extra parts of the collections.

499
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Speaker 3: Whatever.

500
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Speaker 4: But every year during induction week, all these guys come

501
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: back and they have deals with local restaurants and some

502
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: of the other training card shops, and then the hotels

503
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 4: would have a larger conference, you know, to where you'd

504
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 4: have a lot of signings, plus you know, a baseball

505
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: card convention and whatever. But for a lot of these guys,

506
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: when I started getting the book signed and I'm now

507
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 4: up to maybe thirty eight thirty nine signatures, well no, no, no,

508
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: so like it was the All Century team. So I

509
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: mean there's one hundred guys. Plus there's a lot of

510
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: photos of guys who weren't part of the you know,

511
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: one hundred, but encapsulated something as one of those skills, right,

512
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 4: but either way, So I decided to make it my

513
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: project where I could meet these guys, and as I

514
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: can afford it, I'd go and add them to the list.

515
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Speaker 4: My favorite was sitting for a half hour as Yogi

516
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 4: bearra ate a bowl of soup with me being through

517
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: and telling me stories. Now this was before I was

518
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 4: doing all the time, right this before I'm doing full

519
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 4: time radio, and I didn't have a recorder with me.

520
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 4: I didn't have any of that stuff, so I just

521
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: listened to the tales and some of the interactions Through

522
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: the years.

523
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Speaker 3: Where are some of my.

524
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: Most cherished memories of going with these guys that played

525
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: in the fifties and sixties, the guys they didn't like.

526
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: They'd start telling you stories of you know, the hazing

527
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: or how they'd go after these guys and near fights

528
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 4: and bars in any town, USA. And so it's one

529
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 4: of my cherished possessions. But the idea being that you

530
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to go meet these people, right the

531
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: games that you love and what we do for a living.

532
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: Look in the end, anytime I hear someone protests they're

533
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 4: not a fan of a team, they're a liar, because

534
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: that's what got.

535
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Speaker 3: Them into this business, right, right.

536
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 4: They may try to push it to the background and say, well,

537
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 4: I'm really a big fan of this player or whatever. No, no, no,

538
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 4: there's still that team that that's the first that they

539
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: look for in the list of games scores, that's the

540
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: first box score that they go in perus and all

541
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 4: of that stuff. And anybody that's telling you that is

542
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: selling you a bill of goods in this business or.

543
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: Somewhere.

544
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: They may have just lost the love of the game,

545
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 4: and that little boy died or or young girl died,

546
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 4: Little Johnny and Susie, that that inner piece has lost.

547
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 5: It's great when you could do that though, that's a

548
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 5: good story man, I bet you had some good stories

549
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 5: to tell you.

550
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: Was great.

551
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 4: Well, here's here's one that I've told before, but it's

552
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 4: new to you. We'll get to the NFLPA union bit,

553
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 4: but you know, memory Lane and as we're celebrating the

554
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame and the pageantry and what we love

555
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: about it, both for Major League Baseball this week and

556
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: for the Hall of Fame game, they do the similar

557
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: stuff in Canton, no question about it.

558
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: But at one point I was at going to a

559
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 3: signing up.

560
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: In the Bay Area, and for whatever reason, the agent

561
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 4: that was negotiating for those players, they were all under

562
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: the same agency, he wouldn't sign sign off on whatever

563
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 4: the commitment was, right, So they don't have photos. So

564
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 4: their names are in these lists, right, all right, here's

565
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: the relief pictures. Boom, here's this, and I go and

566
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: Barry Bonds was doing a signing and he didn't do

567
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: many of those at all, and whatever reputation, that's neither

568
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: here nor there. But he was there and he was

569
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 4: a little more expensive, but not exorbitant.

570
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: So I got him to sign a couple of things,

571
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: including the book, and he was great.

572
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 4: He flipped through the book too, like he thought it

573
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: was interesting as hell, right, so he.

574
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: Was great, like because because it was something he hadn't

575
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: signed before. So it's fine. So I get him and

576
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: then I go into Raleigh Fingers. He's one of the guys.

577
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: He's in there, but there's no photo of him and

578
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 4: he and he screams back and I can't even say

579
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: it on the air. What he screams back his agent

580
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 4: who's back to Hey, Blanke and he Blanke get over

581
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: here and he gumes up. He goes, hey, is the book?

582
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 4: Remember you wouldn't sign this? Guys, look at it. Flip it,

583
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 4: go ahead, flip it. And I flipped it and it's

584
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: a giant picture of Goose Gossage and he starts cursing.

585
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: But because his reaction of calling his agent over, every

586
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: other guy that's up there signing, they stop and they

587
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: put their sharpies down and they come and they want

588
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: to see what the.

589
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: Hell is going on, and I'm like, well, it's you.

590
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 5: It's a page.

591
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 4: But this is early enough to where we didn't have

592
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: the camera phones with it. But like, so there's several

593
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: guys where I just had to explain. It's like, well, yeah,

594
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 4: I just need you to sign where your name's missed

595
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: it versus a photo. So there's this giant ass picture

596
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: of Eckersley and then Gossage, but there's no photo of

597
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: Raleigh signed it beautifully. He's always had great and he's

598
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: a collector of trading guards or whatever. But it's funny,

599
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: like you've got a few of those guys from the

600
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 4: Bay area or the top it off there.

601
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta go.

602
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 4: I have to go back through the list, but I've

603
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: got a word list and I'll either buy checks for

604
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: the guys that are deceased, or or I'll have to

605
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: make the pilgrimage or trust that the book comes back

606
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: from some of the charitable RIGA much.

607
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: Did you get for that book?

608
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't know a number of

609
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: the guys that passed.

610
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 4: The last guy I added was actually at a show

611
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: last year right before he passed.

612
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: Ricky Henderson.

613
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he was.

614
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: Sweet as could be his daughter and we had a

615
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: nice conversation about it. I asked him about giving the

616
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: rules that they changed regarding stolen base I go, what

617
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 4: do you think? And he looked at it and he goes,

618
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 4: I can answer right, I go, yeah, it's just you

619
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: me in the wall. He goes, dude two hundred, without

620
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: thinking about it, are you kidding me? If they can't

621
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: hold me, if they can't hold me by these rules,

622
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: and do the throwover or step off, come on, easy

623
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: as cake. And then he signed it and he started

624
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: flipping through it as well. He thought it was cool.

625
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 5: So somebody gave us a stot on Ricky Henderson that

626
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 5: I just don't believe.

627
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: What's that?

628
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 5: On Twitter? George says, and he said this in a

629
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: while ago. It's funny you brought him up. Ricky Henderson

630
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 5: broke up eighty one maybe more no hitters with a

631
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 5: home run. That can't be possible. That can't be fun,

632
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 5: That can't.

633
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 4: Well, no, no, no, you know what those are? Leadoff

634
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: home runs, Arenie.

635
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: Oh that's right, that's right. Good call. I wasn't thinking

636
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: like that. Oh that is a good call. He has

637
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 5: that many. Oh wow, look at.

638
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: That, because I watched the exasperation over at the news desk.

639
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 5: Come on, man, I think it's the perfect Yeah, but

640
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 5: I'm thinking like eighth inning or something. Don't bring it

641
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 5: to saga.

642
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: Perfect segue to bringing a man with a giant mallet.

643
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: He may have mole near like he's thor ready to

644
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: way the hammer down on you.

645
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 9: I was.

646
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: No.

647
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 9: We are all celebrating what went on tonight.

648
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 5: It was one of the.

649
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 9: Greatest offensive performances in Major League history tonight, and it

650
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 9: occurred off the bat of a rookie for the A's.

651
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 9: Nick Kurtz hit four home runs at Houston in a

652
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 9: fifteen to three victory. He's twenty two years old, by

653
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 9: far the youngest of those who've had four homer games

654
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 9: in Major league history. He went six for six, eight RBIs,

655
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 9: six runs scored. Since nineteen hundred, the only other guy

656
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 9: that had had a six for six game that included

657
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 9: four homers was the Dodgers Shawn Green in two thousand

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Speaker 9: and two. One of my favorite guys that was, to me,

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Speaker 9: the greatest offensive performance was the modern Bass after times.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Just it put this in perspective.

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Speaker 9: There have been twenty five perfect games pitched. If you

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Speaker 9: include Armando Galarraga of the Tigers.

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Speaker 3: Here you go, we'll add him.

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Speaker 9: That's twenty five. There have only been twenty times there's

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Speaker 9: been a four homer game. This is more rare than

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Speaker 9: a perfect game. What happened tonight, and the thing is,

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Speaker 9: it's happened twice this season because in late April, the

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Speaker 9: Diamondbacks au Hennio Suarez, who might be on the trading block.

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Speaker 9: Over the next week, he had a four homer game

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Speaker 9: against the Braves, and his fourth home run that night

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Speaker 9: tied the game in the ninth. They wound up losing

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Speaker 9: in extra innings. I do remember when the Diamondbacks had J. D.

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Speaker 9: Martinez late in the twenty seventeen season at Dodger Stadium

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Speaker 9: against an LA team.

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Speaker 3: That wound up winning the Pennant that year.

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Speaker 9: He wound up with a four homer game because he

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Speaker 9: had a solo homer in the seventh, a solo homer

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Speaker 9: in the eighth, and a two run homer in the

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Speaker 9: ninth for numbers two, three, and four.

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Speaker 5: King got to be on that list, right, Dave Kingman's

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Speaker 5: got to be there.

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Speaker 9: He's certainly on the four strikeout three on the extra

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Speaker 9: ning game where somebody asked less, Well not somebody, Paul

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Speaker 9: Olden asked Tony Lasorda afterwards.

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Speaker 3: When you think of.

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Speaker 5: Kingman's his performance, he hid, Wow.

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Speaker 3: You know Tommy Lasorna's factor.

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Speaker 4: Get into our show last night, how we celebrated the

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Speaker 4: life and times of Hulk Hogan because he was the

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Speaker 4: guest ring announcer for WrestleMania two in Los What Hogan

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Speaker 4: faced Bundy in the Steel Case.

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Speaker 9: That was about the time Tommy was appearing on the

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Speaker 9: Baseball Bunch on the weekend Intigration show.

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Speaker 4: That was him and Johnny in the San Diego Chicken.

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Speaker 4: So what's his Ted? I forget his last name?

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Speaker 9: He also Ted Genilis. He also appeared on the On

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Speaker 9: a Hehaw episode Tommy. They made sure to play that

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Speaker 9: at Dodger Stadium in time or two. But Nick Kurtz

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Speaker 9: the hero of the evening and then some four home

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Speaker 9: runs A's win fifteen to three at Houston.

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Speaker 3: We only have two other games going on.

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Speaker 9: The Mets are leading six to one at San Francisco

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Speaker 9: at the top of the fifth, and the Mariners have

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Speaker 9: a couple of solo shots from Julio Rodriguez. They're tied

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Speaker 9: two to two in Anaheim against the Angels. Bottom of

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Speaker 9: the seven. Saint Louis shut out the Padres three nothing.

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Speaker 9: Dodgers were five two winners at Boston. LA Outfielder Mookie

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Speaker 9: Betts ex of Boston out for personal reasons. Reportedly he

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Speaker 9: was in his hometown and will join the team tomorrow night.

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Speaker 9: In Massachusetts, White Sox twelve five winners against the Cubs.

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Speaker 9: Toronto won again six to two at Detroit. The Tigers

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Speaker 9: have lost five in a row. Philadelphia, you got two

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Speaker 9: more homers from Kyle Schwarbury has thirty six twelve five.

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Speaker 9: The Phillies beat the Yankees in New York.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 9: Miami won at Milwaukee five to one. The Bengals signed

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Speaker 9: first round pass rusher Schamar Stewart to a reported guaranteed deal.

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Speaker 9: In a concession, Stewart gets more of his signing bonus

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Speaker 9: up front. He was the last of the unsigned first rounders.

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Speaker 9: Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson will miss part of camp

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Speaker 9: with a strained hamstring said to be mild. In the WNBA,

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Speaker 9: New York one again, Minnesota one again. In fact, the

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Speaker 9: Minnesota Links are twenty two to four after beating Las Vegas.

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Speaker 9: A reminder This Sunday on Fox TV, Indy Cars at

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Speaker 9: Northern California's Road Course in Monterey. Just four races left

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Speaker 9: in the IndyCar season. And Sunday the women's soccer euro

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Speaker 9: finalists on Fox TV noon Eastern time. That's Spain, the

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Speaker 9: defending World Cup champion against England, which won the last

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Speaker 9: euro tournament.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Steve, like all of the games when

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Speaker 4: Paul Ski dominates and all have anybody started taking Nick

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Speaker 4: Kurtz and putting him in Yankee or Dodger uniforms yet

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Speaker 4: on Twitter already? Yes, after half a season. Half a season,

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Speaker 4: he's twenty two years old. Hey, you barely.

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Speaker 9: Played in the minors last year after he got drafted

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Speaker 9: he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, sure, okay, fun to watch, man.

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Speaker 4: We love watching these these young guys come up as

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Speaker 4: we're talking, interspersed with the talk of legends. Thanks so

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Speaker 4: much as Steve Disager at the news desk keeping an

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Speaker 4: eye on everything for us as we continue.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the little trip down memory lane.

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Speaker 4: Always good to go into story time and reminds me

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Speaker 4: I got to get back to adding more of those

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Speaker 4: guys to the book. I'll send photos and I'll put

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Speaker 4: them up at Swollen Dome. That'll that'll be a fun

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Speaker 4: little task. I just can't let you know from a

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Speaker 4: geo tracker where I live because otherwise someone's coming for

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Speaker 4: that book and everything else.

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Speaker 5: I own safe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly all that to say at Swollen Dome, at

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Speaker 4: Stick and Genius one where you find Arnie. Follow us

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Speaker 4: As we continue, we'll get into that NFLPA scandal, the

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Speaker 4: next shoe to drop.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We got the ticket issue that we'll fight more about

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Speaker 4: in the second half of the show. But in the interim,

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Speaker 4: let's talk more. The head of the PA resigned. You

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Speaker 4: got chaos ensuing, and now more potential problems on the way.

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Speaker 5: What are they?

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Speaker 2: We'll be sure to catch live editions of The Jason

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Speaker 2: Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,

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Speaker 2: seven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me, Mike Carmon.

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Speaker 4: No Jason Smith tonight, it instead my body already span

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Speaker 4: under wraps as we settle in a few days from

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Speaker 4: NFL taking over everything. We've got plenty of NFL stories

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Speaker 4: coming up as we go, most of them more positive

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Speaker 4: best of version posted right after we get off the year. Well,

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Speaker 4: we've got the PA scandal, the next round of it

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Speaker 4: last week, a lot of conversation, and you and Plank

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Speaker 4: would have covered this as well. About a strip club

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Speaker 4: and about of car service or whatever else. Those are

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Speaker 4: like small amounts of money, So if someone's finding those

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Speaker 4: the next level that includes potential criminal actions and including

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Speaker 4: the misuse of funds and the self enrichment of union officials.

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Speaker 4: According to a confidential a document that was obtained by ESPN.

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Speaker 4: A memo title quote crisis Management was drafted by a

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Speaker 4: union attorney and shared with the executive Committee and player

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Speaker 4: reps during this past week. So now they're going back

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Speaker 4: into questions of unfair business practices, the lapse of fiduciary

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Speaker 4: duty oversight practice. That's where it gets fun. Right, there's

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Speaker 4: people that can manage your money, and then there are

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Speaker 4: people called fiduciaries. As you go through and you try to.

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Speaker 5: Man it's not like money laundering or inside sources or anything,

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Speaker 5: or inside trading or anything like that, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, but what it is is you're not being responsible

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Speaker 4: with the money, rightiary.

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Speaker 5: More of a conflict of interest because.

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Speaker 4: Right legal or ethical relationship of trust with one or

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Speaker 4: more parties typically it's you're you're trusted with them. So

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Speaker 4: like you're a football player, you trust that the people

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Speaker 4: that are running your union, running your shop, and who

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Speaker 4: are managing your money are working in your best interest,

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Speaker 4: i e. Not working for ownership, which is one of

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Speaker 4: the problem, right or exactly or funneling money wrongly in

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Speaker 4: terms of fees, like there's a.

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Speaker 5: Million companies or they may be involved with them, correct.

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Speaker 4: Which is one of the problems you had with Lloyd

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Speaker 4: Howell to begin with talking about private equity on the

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Speaker 4: ownership ownership side of face, how.

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Speaker 5: Long has this been going on?

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Speaker 4: But that but that's the larger question I have, because

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Speaker 4: it's a question, uh that whatever any of these union

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Speaker 4: uh issues is, particularly with the NFL, have come up.

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Speaker 4: And I've I've had plenty of animated discussions with some

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Speaker 4: of our colleagues that are former players. You know, the

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Speaker 4: dissemination of information is always spotty at best. It's I'll

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Speaker 4: go with what the group does. I'll go with your recommend.

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Speaker 5: Whereas your checks and balances, where's the you know, the secondary,

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Speaker 5: the third people checking them, Where's where's people overlooking people

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Speaker 5: overlooking people? It's not just one group of people in charge.

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Speaker 3: Well, but that's the right.

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Speaker 4: You have your team reps, you go into you know,

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Speaker 4: funnel that up to your executive committees and up to

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Speaker 4: the person you elect as the head. Before it was

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Speaker 4: Demorris Smith, and for years we chronicled him getting beaten

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Speaker 4: like a drum at the negotiating table right by Roger Goodell.

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Speaker 4: And I've talked about it, you know, and we brought

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Speaker 4: it up a little bit earlier. Right, you just have

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Speaker 4: that large divide between what people making sixty million dollars

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Speaker 4: a year, your quarterbacks, your pass rushers, whatever, and the

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Speaker 4: guys that are trying to hang on, right, that might

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Speaker 4: not get their second contract, might not finish that first year, right,

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Speaker 4: and voting rights and their responsibilities and what they're looking

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Speaker 4: for for the union is going to be vastly different.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady with several hundred million dollars in the bank

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Speaker 4: and Giselle Bunchin as his wife at the time, his

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Speaker 4: consideration's much different.

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Speaker 5: Right, So Thursday night football, because you know, you get

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Speaker 5: pay each player gets like two hundred thousand.

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Speaker 4: No, but that's the thing, right, you make all these

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Speaker 4: concessions in exchange for one extra day off right right, right,

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Speaker 4: or one fewer padded practice here and there. Well, but

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Speaker 4: that's like all of those things. And I think the

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Speaker 4: game has been worse for a lot of it. And

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's that's an arguable point. I think

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Speaker 4: we watch it every September that it looks like you're

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Speaker 4: still scrimmaging, or at least one side looks decidedly worse

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Speaker 4: and less organized than the other. So now you have

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Speaker 4: the question. You have this Lloyd Howell scandal. You have

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Speaker 4: this coming out? Now, how far back does this go?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: To talk about Demorris Smith, He's got a book out

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Speaker 4: about his experiences. I haven't walked right through it at

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Speaker 4: this point, but you know, how much was you were duped?

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Speaker 4: And how much is all right? Everybody kind of knew

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Speaker 4: what was going on and are willing complicit? And I'm

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Speaker 4: not accusing him that. I'm like, I just want to know,

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Speaker 4: like where we are in the process. You know, did

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Speaker 4: this start? Because it can't just be a two to

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Speaker 4: three year thing.

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Speaker 5: No, And we need people to say, you know, when

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Speaker 5: we do the investigation, we need to find out who's guilty,

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Speaker 5: They need to be punished, we need to figure out

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Speaker 5: how long is this going to take? Too?

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Speaker 4: Well, But that's but that's the other side though. Arnie

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Speaker 4: is like, how far do you have to clean this out?

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Speaker 4: And if you're a you were a player, rep, I

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Speaker 4: gotta imagine your phone's been ringing it awful lot and

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Speaker 4: guys are cornering you in the locker room as camps

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Speaker 4: came underway this year. Crazy stuff. But tell you what,

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Speaker 4: let's go back into the practice. I want you to

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Speaker 4: explain your dolphin