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Speaker 1: These One Bills Live presented by call lighta Health. Welcome

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Speaker 1: into this Thursday, July eleventh edition of One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Uh Steve Tasker with Chris Trapasso again as he finishes

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Speaker 1: out the week. For Chris Brown Brown, he's got stuff

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Speaker 1: going on around town. Thanks for joining us. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be here till three o'clock talking about Buffalo Bills and

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Speaker 1: all the stuff that's going on around the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Lots of stuff coming in. It's the off season Chris,

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Speaker 1: and and you're getting all this social media stuff about

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Speaker 1: you know, things gonna happen. Plus, you know, we just

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Speaker 1: found out today just before we sat down. Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: is gonna and whether you love him or hate him,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be on inside the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I think that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: With Ryan Clark, Chad Ocho Cinco said, Chris Long, Chris

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Speaker 1: Long and Bill Belichick, the four of those guys are

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Speaker 1: going to be inside the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of football knowledge from different perspectives. And

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Speaker 3: even if you hate Bill Belichick, I think I could

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Speaker 3: see in a TV role he's going to be a

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Speaker 3: lot easier to like because I think he's just gonna

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Speaker 3: nerd out on the football side.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, if you sit down and talk with him

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Speaker 1: for any link the time. I've done it a few

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Speaker 1: times when I was with CBS. We sat down in

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Speaker 1: production meetings and he tolerated me, and because I you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not one of those nerdy guys, right, And he's

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Speaker 1: got such a wealth of knowledge about the NFL and

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Speaker 1: where things came from, how things evolved, where they came from,

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Speaker 1: and plus the ins and outs of how you have

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Speaker 1: to attack building a team. Just an absolute encyclope of

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Speaker 1: football knowledge. And it's really really fun, even for a

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Speaker 1: guy like me who played for a long time and

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Speaker 1: has covered it for a long time, to sit and

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Speaker 1: talk with him because he can get into detail about

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Speaker 1: the whys and the and where it came from, and

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Speaker 1: the retaliations and the i mean, the responses and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. So it'll be interesting, no question.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you could certainly make a case that

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Speaker 3: late in his career with the Patriots, maybe he didn't

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Speaker 3: evolve as quickly or rapidly or as much as he

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Speaker 3: should have. But for the rest of his career, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he was ahead of the curve a lot of the times.

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Speaker 3: With trans with Wes Welker and the double tight ends.

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Speaker 3: We know what he can do schematically on the defensive side.

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Speaker 3: And I think because of that wealth of knowledge that

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Speaker 3: I can't spit out all this football jargon that the

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Speaker 3: vast majority of the viewership will not know or will

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Speaker 3: go completely over their heads. He can scale it back

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Speaker 3: a little bit, and because he has so much knowledge,

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Speaker 3: he can almost make it easy to understand what he's

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Speaker 3: trying to describe about the trends in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's also I mean, he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: working for a team, so you'll probably get information that

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Speaker 1: he would never say publicly as a head coach, no

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Speaker 1: emotionalized yes, he won't have anything to hide behind you

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Speaker 1: and said listen, I don't want them to know this

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Speaker 1: that we're thinking this, or a train of thought is

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Speaker 1: or any of that. You'll probably get a much more

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Speaker 1: free wheeling dialogue from Bill Belichick in this setting than

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Speaker 1: you would even if he was doing an analyst job

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just got a suggestion from Jeff in the

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Speaker 3: control room, is Bill Belichick trying to be the new

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Speaker 3: John Madden because John Madden and Super Bowl winning head

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Speaker 3: coach in the seventies with the Raiders, and then I

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Speaker 3: know him from his video game and being a legendary commentator.

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick will see how good he does on TV,

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Speaker 3: how well or how articulate he is.

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Speaker 2: But I just think the knowledge will be there.

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Speaker 3: So anything that you want to throw at him, any question,

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Speaker 3: anything that transpires, He's seen it all throughout his four

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Speaker 1: He really he really could get into that realm, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. I mean, the guys is right there

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Speaker 1: The one thing that makes John set John Madden apart

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he brought the x's and osto the TV.

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Speaker 1: Evidd in the XT he invented the replay with the

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Speaker 2: And that's something that we just take for granted out.

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Speaker 1: And he also and he was also a master. John

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Speaker 1: You know that kind of stuff, and people loved it

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Speaker 1: because it made it understandable. Another thing that John Madden

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Speaker 1: if I'm going to do your game and I want

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Speaker 1: you want the best out of me, I need to

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Speaker 1: talk to your coaches and your players the day before.

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Speaker 1: That's how production meetings got set up. They never did

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Speaker 1: for a CBS or Fox or a ESPN or whoever.

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Speaker 1: It gave a more strong relationship to the guys who

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Speaker 2: And they're just better.

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Speaker 3: I mean you during your career because of that, were

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Speaker 3: probably felt better prepared to call a game where you understood, hey,

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Speaker 2: But the coach last night told me he's a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Banged up, or he's going through some stuff off the field,

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Speaker 3: like things like that where pre production meetings you would

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Speaker 1: That's cool, Yeah, and it's it. It adds a level

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Speaker 1: he said this and this right. So that's where John

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Speaker 1: Madden had taken everything. Now Bill Belichick in this day

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Speaker 1: although it's not going to happen now despite the relationship

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and Roger Goodell, after all the ups and

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Speaker 1: downs they've had tenure together, Godell as commissioner and Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick as his favorite target of fines and suspension, all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. I thought the league should put Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: of the state of the game. The state of the game.

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Speaker 1: Make him a czar of football or something. He's got

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Speaker 1: constantly and stays relevant year to year. Yes, they change constantly,

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Speaker 2: He'll be able to point those out too.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be able to say, and like you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: encyclopedic knowledge and memory, I feel like he will be

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Speaker 3: he does to say, hey, back in nine we tried this,

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Speaker 3: things like that. He'll be able to recall things throughout

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Speaker 3: his coaching career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'll also be able to get out in

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Speaker 1: front of this. We're talking about Bill Belichick and his

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Speaker 1: You've kind of figured he was going to be there somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he wasn't just going to step away, and

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Speaker 3: he's not going to disappear. He's been in the NFL

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Speaker 3: since nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, he's seventy seven, seventy nine

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Speaker 1: Of eight different Super Bowl champions as a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He was in there with guys like ted Marchibroda,

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Speaker 1: of affection for Teddy Marchibroda, and I mentioned mentioned Teddy

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Speaker 1: but you know, Chad played for him and Bill. You know,

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Speaker 1: better media. Yes, so it should be a really good

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Speaker 2: I'm certainly looking forward to it. Steves as well.

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Speaker 3: you're like, you know, Tom Brady's been gone for years now,

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady on Fox doing those marquee number one games

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Speaker 3: on our TVs a lot more, maybe than even he

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Speaker 3: was last year, and saying a lot more not being

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Speaker 3: guarded like you mentioned, So for those people, a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a nightmare to go from no Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: Yeah, other stuff going on around the league also, we

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Speaker 1: got there's stuff on social media. There's a picture on

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Speaker 1: metalist wrestler that was signed as a defensive lineman by

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Speaker 2: Stature they are. So they're both six foot one.

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Speaker 3: I looked back Aaron Donald twenty fourteen at the combine

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Speaker 3: was two hundred and eighty five pounds. Stevenson is listed

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Speaker 1: So Stevenson's a half sized small. I think. I don't

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Speaker 3: So in looking back, that was my first year that

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Speaker 3: The first game was insane what he put up. I

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Speaker 2: He had fifteen rushing touchdowns last year. That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: he turns the ball over too much, and my answer

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Speaker 1: is this, No, he does not. Uh. The guy scores

435
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Speaker 1: more than anybody. Their point differential is bigger than anybody's.

436
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Speaker 1: He is winning games. And I'm so, I'm I'm yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of over all these people are just kind

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Speaker 1: of say, a, yeah, the windows closed, he's not that good.

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Speaker 1: D D. I'm like, dude. And for the six losses

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Speaker 1: the Bill suffered last year, he walked off the field

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Speaker 1: after the two minute warning with elite, So that's.

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Speaker 2: All you can ask.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they gain and they never got beat in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. They never got beat by more than

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Speaker 1: a possession, and it hasn't happened in three years, So

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Speaker 1: you can you can use all the criteria you want.

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Speaker 3: So I just checked what I Yeah, that's totally true.

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Speaker 3: What I said earlier, I was like, fifteen touchdowns has

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Speaker 3: to be one of the highest touchdown totals. Last year,

450
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen was second in the NFL in rushing touchdowns.

451
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Speaker 3: Last season, Raheem Moster had eighteen rushing touchdowns. Number two

452
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Speaker 3: not a running back, not Derek Henry, not Christian McCaffrey.

453
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Speaker 3: He only had fourteen. Derek Henry had twelve. Josh Allen

454
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Speaker 3: had fifteen rushing touchdowns along with being an unequivocally elite passer.

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Speaker 3: So I think, to me and not that we're necessarily

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Speaker 3: going down this rabbit hole of where we would rank

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Speaker 3: these quarterbacks. The one reason, and I don't think anyone

458
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Speaker 3: can really debate this, why if it's okay, if Patrick

459
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Speaker 3: Mahomes is the best quarterback, is it Joe Burrow, is

460
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Speaker 3: it CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud?

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Speaker 3: It is that Josh Allen Allen is way ahead of

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and way ahead of c. J. Stroud as

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Speaker 3: a runner. And although Jalen Hurts, who also had fifteen

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Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns, has a bunch of those one yard little

466
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Speaker 3: touch pushes, he's not the same running threat as Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: The only one who I think is more dynamic is

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Speaker 3: Jackson with the Ravens. Beyond that, Josh Allen what he

469
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Speaker 3: brings on the ground, whether it's a designed run in

470
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Speaker 3: the red zone. As a scrambler, there's really no comparison

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Speaker 3: in the NFL size wise, power wise and athleticism.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Christophosso here, we're here till three o'clock. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about anything you want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We also have a question that we put out on

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Speaker 1: social media Twitter, and what positive part of Josh Allen's game,

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Speaker 1: one thing that's actually pretty good would you like to

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Speaker 1: see evolve or be with okay with changing it? And

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Speaker 1: we've got some pretty good We've obviously got, you know,

479
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Speaker 1: the handful of snarky comments as well, but we also

480
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Speaker 1: got some pretty good feedback from people on social about

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Speaker 1: what they would think about even a positive thing about

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Speaker 1: Josh's game. Would you like to see it change or

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Speaker 1: evolve your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: You've mentioned Steve to me that you know, maybe are

485
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Speaker 3: there some times where Josh Allen does hang onto the

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Speaker 3: ball a little bit too long and then he hits

487
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Speaker 3: those big plays over the top. Would you like to

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Speaker 3: see more of a quick release Josh Allen where he's

489
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Speaker 3: maybe not hitting as many big plays, but he keeps

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Speaker 3: the offense on schedule a little bit more frequently or

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Speaker 3: maybe less running. He's had over one hundred carries in

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Speaker 3: all of his seasons since twenty nineteen, maybe under one

493
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Speaker 3: hundred carries where he just hands the football off to

494
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Speaker 3: Ray Davis and James Cook and Ty Johnson, things like that.

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Speaker 3: What part of his game would you be willing to

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Speaker 3: kind of sacrifice if it means a positive for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the team. This is one that I pitched,

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Speaker 3: so I have to kind of.

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Speaker 1: Even one, or it could be even one that you

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Speaker 1: just wanted to see changed. I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 1: You'd rather have him, right, you'd rather have Listen. He

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Speaker 1: gets accused wrongly of having all these one yard touchdown runs. No,

503
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Speaker 1: he almost never has a one yard touchdown run. He

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Speaker 1: snaps off fifty two yards against the Steelers in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Those are his runs. He snaps off a nineteen yard run,

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Speaker 1: you know, he snaps off a third, you know, twenty

507
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Speaker 1: three yard touchdown run, a twelve yard touchdown run, a

508
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Speaker 1: fifteen yard touchdown run, an eight yard touchdown run. You

509
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Speaker 1: rarely see him sneak it over the goal.

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Speaker 2: That's Jalen Hurts mostly.

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Speaker 1: That's right. So Josh is you know, Josh is a

512
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Speaker 1: unicorny and he's going to continue to be. But if

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Speaker 1: there is one thing you'd like to see him do,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it is for me. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see him not wait for the big play and

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Speaker 1: then check it down.

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Speaker 2: I take that a little bit more tefuently do that.

518
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Speaker 1: Thro take the quick throw because I think, and we

519
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Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, that is one way that the

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Speaker 1: Bills could start winning games. That would take a little

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Speaker 1: pressure off Josh, and it would give them one more

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Speaker 1: thing for defenses to spread themselves that much thinner. They

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Speaker 1: got to cover guys right now, knowing that you know

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Speaker 1: right now that teams no, they're not going to Josh

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Speaker 1: has sacked less than any quarterback in the league because

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Speaker 1: of his mobility, because of the fact he's got a

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Speaker 1: good offensive line.

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Speaker 2: He had the lowest sack rate in football.

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Speaker 1: Because he can slack, because he can sling it. So

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Speaker 1: to give your defense they're already working against that, but

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Speaker 1: now to give the ball out quickly, you know, your

532
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Speaker 1: defensive linemen are just They'll say, you know, I'm just

533
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Speaker 1: gonna sit on the sidelines. We can't get to him.

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Speaker 1: He's throwing the ball quick anyway, We're not even out

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Speaker 1: there for anything, right, So it really puts a defense

536
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Speaker 1: into a weird spot to have a quarterback they can't

537
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Speaker 1: sack and who gets even if he holds onto the ball,

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Speaker 1: and who gets rid of it quickly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's been something that earlier in

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen's career, he was trying to do the hero

541
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Speaker 3: ball stuff and he's talked about that and I think

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Speaker 3: he's gotten much better with doing that. But with him,

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Speaker 3: if he becomes more of a point guard out there

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Speaker 3: and getting the ball out quickly, and I think that

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Speaker 3: lends itself well to spreading the football around this philosophy.

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Speaker 3: He always will have that big arm, deep throw in

547
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Speaker 3: his back pocket, whether it's a third and fifteen, it's

548
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: a late game situation, he needs it.

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Speaker 2: He knows he can rely on that.

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Speaker 3: So that could be something I wanted to say to

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Speaker 3: your point that Josh Allen doesn't score a lot of

552
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Speaker 3: short touchdowns. Most rushing tds from outside the ten yard

553
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Speaker 3: line since twenty twenty one. This is including running backs.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen is ninth with six. He's ahead of or

555
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Speaker 3: tied with Joe Mixon, Josh Jacobs, Travis etn ahead of

556
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Speaker 3: Austin Eckler, Breise Hall. So there's only eight players that

557
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Speaker 3: have more touchdowns from outside of the ten yard line

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Speaker 3: than Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to this Josh Allen conversation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we got Mark from Jamestown who called in. He wants

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Speaker 1: to talk about the expectations for Vaughn Okay coming in

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Speaker 1: this season. Mark, you're on with Steve and Chris, what's

563
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Speaker 1: on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Well, I just wanted you guys to tell Judy Hello.

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Speaker 4: I hear her on there all the time time. She's

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Speaker 4: pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Judy is a regular college from Buffalo. She's great.

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Speaker 4: Yep, I agree, she know. It's probably more than all

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Speaker 4: three of us put together. My comment on Josh Allen

570
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Speaker 4: is I still want him to get hurt like Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 4: you know, And Joe Burrow went made the comment about

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Speaker 4: he wanted eighteen eighteen games in two bye weeks with

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Speaker 4: the with the Pro Bowl in the second bye week,

574
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Speaker 4: and people are upset. But as far as von Miller,

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Speaker 4: you know, I read an article the other day that

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Speaker 4: he said, in this article which was on the Bill's website,

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Speaker 4: that he shouldn't have played last year. And I want

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Speaker 4: to know what's going on with him, because you know,

579
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Speaker 4: the dude's making a lot of money. Yeah, he did

580
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: take a he made a concession of some to help

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Speaker 4: the salary cap. And yes he is has wisdom to

582
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 4: pass on to the other people. But he needs to

583
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 4: be he needs to be sacking some quarterbacks and taking them,

584
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Speaker 4: you know, putting hurt and on those guys like Burrow.

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00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: He needs to give Burrow, you know, a little shot

586
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 4: now and then. And I want to know what you

587
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 4: guys think and what you I would like to hear

588
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: more over the next couple of weeks when you go

589
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Speaker 4: to Saint John Fisher, what's up with him and how

590
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Speaker 4: he's doing?

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks, No, he's not young. Yeah, right, exactly,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, I appreciate Yeah, And you're right. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You're right when when a guy like Vaughan gets hurt

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Speaker 1: like he did and he's making a pile of cash.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons guys like him get big contracts

596
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: is because they play and they want to play and

597
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: they want to be good. It's not about the money

598
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: for them, it is kind of for all of us

599
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: watching him. So he's making a lot of Like you said, Mark.

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Speaker 1: He's making a lot of money. We want to see

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Speaker 1: him play and play well. It's not like that for

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Speaker 1: the player, particularly guys like Vaughn, like like Bruce and

603
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Speaker 1: like you know, Aaron Donell, and even quarterbacks like Josh

604
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: and Pat Mahomes. It's not about it ceases to be

605
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: about the money. It's about playing and playing well. So

606
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: when they're doing that, they they want to play. Vaughn

607
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: wanted to play. Vaughn felt like he had a duty

608
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: to his teammates to play even if he couldn't play

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Speaker 1: his best. That's the way good players are. They feel

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Speaker 1: like they want to help, they want to help the team.

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Speaker 2: And that too, he said, I didn't want to let

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Speaker 2: my teammates down. I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough put and you can understand easily. It's

614
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: a tough position for guys to be in, and it

615
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: happens a lot.

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Speaker 2: And you must have had that, and you.

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Speaker 1: Guys get hurt. You get hurt and you can't play,

618
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: but you want to and you want to help. So

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Speaker 1: it's a really difficult position. It's a difficult position for

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Speaker 1: the club because now they got this guy who's really good,

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Speaker 1: but he's not he's making a lot of money and

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00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: they can't use him. So it's a tough spot for

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Speaker 1: them to be. And too, it's like we we're not

624
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Speaker 1: going to cut him because when he comes back, we

625
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: want to play. So it is a tough situation and

626
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: you got to handle it the best way you can.

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00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: In the moment, Vaughn decided he wanted to play. And

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too, Vaughn did not fall all over.

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Speaker 1: He didn't puke all over his shoes when he got

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Speaker 1: out there. He was not a bad football player when

631
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Speaker 1: he was playing. He didn't get any stats. And you

632
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: can say what you want about that. He didn't get

633
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: any stats, didn't look like he was productive. But I

634
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: watched him pretty closely, and he was coming off the

635
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: ball fine. He was engaged in the offensive lineman. Fine,

636
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: he was a problem for some offensive lineman. He got

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00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: close on a number of occasions.

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Speaker 2: He did especially.

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00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: He was not he was not off the radar, so

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00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: to speak. But he didn't get any sacked, didn't get

641
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Speaker 1: any production. And so you can look at it and say, wow,

642
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: what a waste. Not so much, not so fast. Vaughn

643
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: didn't feel great, And in retrospect, you can always go

644
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: back like he did and say, a, you know, I

645
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: was worthless, you know, and you feel bad because he's

646
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: played at such a high level, his bar in his

647
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: own mind is high. So yeah, I get it people,

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this, my expectation for Vaughn this year

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Speaker 1: are high. I think he's gonna play well. I don't

650
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna play as much because of his age,

651
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Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna use him sparingly and maybe,

652
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe in a crunch he'll play, you know,

653
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Speaker 1: ninety percent of the defensive snaps in a game, if

654
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Speaker 1: something like that happened. But I think he's gonna get

655
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Speaker 1: like a third of the defensive snaps and a lot

656
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Speaker 1: of third downs, And I think that's where they're gonna

657
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Speaker 1: use him if if he can show the pensant for

658
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Speaker 1: staying healthy. He took a pay cut because he looked

659
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Speaker 1: in himself in the mirror and say I don't want

660
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Speaker 1: to be that guy. I don't want to make all

661
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Speaker 1: this money and not be able to help. You gotta

662
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Speaker 1: tip your hat to him for that.

663
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Speaker 3: So that's big, right, Oh, absolutely, that's that's exactly how

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna approach Von Miller's usage this season

665
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Speaker 3: and that probably at this point in his mid thirties,

666
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Speaker 3: that's really where he should be, even if he wasn't

667
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Speaker 3: coming off an injury.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Christopasso, Gary Onasseel, We're gonna get to you

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Speaker 1: after the break. We're gonna take a break right here

670
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Speaker 1: to come back and to answer your questions on the

671
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Speaker 1: on the tweat sheet and get back to the question

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Speaker 1: about Josh Allen and what part positive part of his

673
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Speaker 1: game would you like to see change and would you

674
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Speaker 1: be okay with Steve Tasker Christoph Passo on One Bill's Live.

675
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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back in One Bill's Live.

676
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Speaker 1: We're just finishing up a conversation about von Miller. Chris,

677
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Speaker 1: you want to say something more about the von Miller expectations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, of course von Miller's gonna come

679
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Speaker 3: out and say or I guess it's not surprising that

680
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: he mentioned like, hey, I wasn't fully healthy last year.

681
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Speaker 3: But in watching him once he did return last year,

682
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Speaker 3: I was saying to everyone, my dad, anyone I watched

683
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Speaker 3: a Bill's game with, said, what's either one of two things.

684
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Speaker 3: One he is not He's truly not fully healthy or

685
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Speaker 3: now into his thirties, he just doesn't have that bend juice.

686
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Speaker 2: The corner anymore.

687
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Speaker 3: So for me, if you're the Bills, it's good that

688
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: von Miller's like well. And I'm sure the Bill's coaching staff,

689
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: their strength and conditioning department understands this as well, that

690
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: it's a good thing that, Hey, what we saw from

691
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Speaker 3: von Miller last year was him at what sixty percent,

692
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Speaker 3: seventy percent ever it was, whatever, it was way below

693
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent. It wasn't just that he's completely just

694
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Speaker 3: done and just does not have that Hall of fame

695
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: get off and bend and dip around the corner. Now

696
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Speaker 3: certainly more than a year removed from that acl tare,

697
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Speaker 3: which I'm sure as you get older, as you've had

698
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Speaker 3: a lot of bumps and bruises in the NFL, it's

699
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Speaker 3: not as easy to return from the injury. Now that

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Speaker 3: he's healthy, I think we very well could see twenty

701
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Speaker 3: twenty two von Miller again in like you're saying, Steve,

702
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Speaker 3: maybe not as large or as high up volume roll,

703
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Speaker 3: but again we said it yesterday. As long as he's

704
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Speaker 3: just a BB plus player for the Bills and that

705
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Speaker 3: pass rushing specialist that closer. He will be very important

706
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Speaker 3: and critical to the Bill's defense.

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Speaker 1: We're also asking you what positive part of Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: game would you be okay with changing or having involved.

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Speaker 1: We got Gary on a cell. Gary, thanks for hanging on.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, how y'all do very good?

712
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think last year when Joe Brady took over, I

714
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 5: saw the things that I was looking for more not

715
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Speaker 5: forcing it, more, knowing when to throw it when he

716
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Speaker 5: when he had to throw it a little bit. The

717
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Speaker 5: trouble throw I felt last year in early season before

718
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Speaker 5: Joe Brady took over, he forced it too many times.

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Speaker 5: We all know that. I thought the second half season

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Speaker 5: when Joe Brady took over, he was checking to the

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Speaker 5: running back, use the tight ends more, spreading out a

722
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Speaker 5: little more. I like the fact that he's just got

723
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Speaker 5: to learn when to be Josh Allen and when to

724
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Speaker 5: be Superman, and I know then he will really evolve.

725
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Speaker 5: Remember Brett Farve was like that, and when the breath

726
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Speaker 5: bab really became elite Elite is when he started to

727
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Speaker 5: doing and not knowing when to be breath barb than

728
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Speaker 5: when to be Superman. That's what I want to see

729
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Speaker 5: from Josh, and then we will we will win a

730
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, Gary.

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Speaker 2: I think just very good, Steve.

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Speaker 3: I think that a lot of that is not just

734
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: the quarterback saying, hey, I need to be better and

735
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: understand when to take the deep shot and when not to.

736
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Speaker 3: I think, and this has really been the theme of

737
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Speaker 3: the offseason for the Bills. If Josh Allen has more

738
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: confidence of the people around him, it will be easy.

739
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Speaker 2: It will be a lot easier.

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Speaker 3: For him to make that distinction and say, I'm not

741
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: worried about maybe Gabe Davis dropping this past or I'm

742
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: not thinking about forcing it to Steph Diggs and to

743
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: Gary's point down the stretch last season, We've said it

744
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Speaker 3: a million times.

745
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Speaker 2: They spread the football around.

746
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Speaker 3: There was a James Cook game, there was a Concaid game,

747
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: there was a shakier game, there was you know, all

748
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: different parts of the offense made contributions that will make

749
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Speaker 3: it easier. As Josh Allen has more faith in Shakiir

750
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Speaker 3: going into year three and James Cook and Dalton Kincaid

751
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Speaker 3: in year two, he won't necessarily have to feel like

752
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Speaker 3: I got to be Superman because I don't really trust

753
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Speaker 3: anyone else or down the stretch last season, it wasn't

754
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Speaker 3: really as trustworthy with some of those other wide receivers

755
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Speaker 3: like he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the one reason the quarterback will do that is

757
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: because he hasn't seen it. You know, the guy I mean,

758
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Speaker 1: James Cook is not going to be all of a

759
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: sudden turning that. He's probably been a guy you can

760
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: depend on it, but you haven't had a chance to

761
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Speaker 1: do it. He hasn't done it in the game. He

762
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Speaker 1: hasn't seen it. And another another thing about the Joe

763
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Speaker 1: Brady aspect of all of this, there's no question that

764
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Speaker 1: he plays an enormous role in the way Josh thinks

765
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Speaker 1: about plays and the way he makes decisions. And you

766
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Speaker 1: think about it, those the offensive coordinator in the quarterback

767
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: are like really meshed because they talk about the game

768
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: plan a lot during the week. What plays Josh like

769
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Speaker 1: to come up with this game plan and then this

770
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Speaker 1: the way it works for every quarterback. The quarterback will

771
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Speaker 1: say this, this, and this there's I don't like it,

772
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Speaker 1: don't I don't want to run.

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Speaker 2: Those like the first reason and the.

774
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Speaker 1: OC will say, okay, we'll take those out. But and

775
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: the OC will come out opening series, even in the

776
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: late series. In the game, like in the third and

777
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, he'll call play, but it's up the quarterback.

778
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Speaker 1: Quarterback will call it. He'll understand what they had the conversation.

779
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: He'll think back to the conversation they had about this play,

780
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do, why they're running it, and

781
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: he'll have a sense of why the coordinator wants to

782
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: run this play. But the simple fact of the matter

783
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Speaker 1: is he's got to call it, break the huddle, make

784
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: the pre snap reads, do execute that play. And all

785
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: the time he's doing that, which is only you know,

786
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: twenty seconds out, it's not that long the coordinator that

787
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: play's gone. It hasn't even run yet. He's thinking the

788
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: next one. Oh yeah, he's thinking the next two or three.

789
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: He's thinking what are we going to do here? What

790
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: am I thinking about? What am I what are the

791
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: parameters now at this point of the field. So the

792
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: coordinator's got to keep a menu of plays of available

793
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: every moment he's thinking ahead while the quarterback is executing

794
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: the one he just thought ahead to call. So that

795
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: symbiotic relationship has to be in place and Joe Brady.

796
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can underestimate the effect Joe Brady

797
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Speaker 1: can have on Josh mainly during the week of preparation.

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Speaker 3: And how about the fact that Joe Brady spent time

799
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Speaker 3: as the quarterbacks coach, so he was really well, yeah,

800
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: so like this is not hey, new offensive coordinator. He

801
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: had a relationship with Josh Allen and was in those

802
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: game planning meeting rooms and he was literally the quarterback coach,

803
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: so they already had that relationship, and I think Joe

804
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: Brady maybe went into that role as the interim offensive

805
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: coordinator kind of saying, hey, Josh, I know which plays

806
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: you don't really like and which ones you do tend

807
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: to kind of lean toward. I thought it was fascinating

808
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: when Josh Allen was on with Doug Farraho we had

809
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: on earlier in the week, just like a month ago,

810
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: he mentioned that touchdown throw in the Steelers game down

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Speaker 3: the middle to dal Kincaid right that when Joe Brady

812
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: was in Josh Allen's ear and I think it cuts

813
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: off at what fifteen seconds? Right, yeah, right before that

814
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: they he called the play in Josh saw the defense

815
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: and they both like at the same time, said we

816
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: got it.

817
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: They knew the look.

818
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: They almost were positive on what kind of safety rotation

819
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: there was going to be, so right as it cut out,

820
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: they both knew, like, I'm gonna look this way and

821
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: then go down the seam and sure enough perfect. I mean,

822
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: it still had to be a great throw. He had

823
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: to have the proper velocity to execute a trajectory. You

824
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: have to execute it. But to me, why I'm saying

825
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: that is because that really showed that that symbiotic relationship.

826
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: He looks left, comes back to the middle, the safety

827
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: stays on the numbers. Donkin kate right down the scene.

828
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Speaker 3: Perfect throw for a touchdown. To me, it just showed

829
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: that those two are really connected in terms of the

830
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: mental side of the game. We know Josh Allen has

831
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: it physically, but if your offensive coordinator and quarterback are

832
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Speaker 3: connected mentally, I think that can really bode well for anything.

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Speaker 1: Friend of mine, a good friend of mine, Jim Kelly, No,

834
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Speaker 1: he was coaching, and he was a quarterbacks coach, and

835
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Speaker 1: he was you know he What it happens is with

836
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: that quarterback coaching, he's not calling plays, he's he's helping,

837
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: he's collaborating, he's but he's a voice the authorities in

838
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: that there. He has voices above him. All you can

839
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: do is just like his job as a quarterbacks coach

840
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: is to go from the quarterback and have a difficult

841
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: conversation with the quarterback from the offensive coordinator, and then

842
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: you take me and then take it back to the

843
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: coordinator and say, make the difficult message from the quarterback.

844
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: You've got to be the intermediary a little bit there

845
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 1: when they're talking about the game plan. So he gets

846
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: the game plan and the playlist from the coordinator and

847
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: he's looking at it, he and he's thinking to him,

848
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: and he told us that he is he is. I knew.

849
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: I knew my guy was not was gonna puke on it.

850
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: So that's important that Joe Brady had that experience with him.

851
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: I knew the quarterback was gonna. I knew exactly what

852
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna say. But he also said, I don't have

853
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: the authority to go in there and say, no, you're

854
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: not gonna he's not gonna like this, not gonna unless

855
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: I had it from the court quarterback's mouth, I couldn't

856
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: do it for him. Well, right, So all of that

857
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: stuff because this is high level. You know, I'm not

858
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: saying it's like, you know, geopolitical stuff, but it's in

859
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: the organization. You got some guys that really know what

860
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: they're doing, and they got differences of opinion. And a

861
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: coordinator may believe a play is an absolute can't miss,

862
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: but the quarterback says, I don't like it.

863
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: And that's that I think is more important than anything else. Confidence.

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you another story. I told the same

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Speaker 1: story John Elway, the big quintessential move of his entire

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Speaker 1: career and the second Super Bowl they're gonna win. He

867
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Speaker 1: comes out as a as a you know, sixty five

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Speaker 1: year old court I don't know how old he was,

869
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Speaker 1: you know, exaggerated, and he comes out and it's the

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Speaker 1: one where he's trying to get in the en zone.

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Speaker 1: He gets helicopter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, famous play.

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Speaker 1: The famous play because he refused to run the play

874
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Speaker 1: that was called. He said, if you call it, I

875
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Speaker 1: hate running it, and he didn't, and it turns into

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Speaker 1: this iconic play of him getting win men because he

877
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: didn't want to run the play they called. That's what

878
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Speaker 1: we're talking about. That you're talking about real different in

879
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: the moments in the moment say I just don't like it,

880
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: and they don't trust it, so they do stuff like this.

881
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Speaker 1: They you know, they snap off a fifty two yard

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Speaker 1: run against the stealers to the throne, right. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's a fun part of the game that

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Speaker 1: is off all too often invisible to all of them.

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Speaker 1: We don't know it. Yeah, we're gonna take a break

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Speaker 1: where we come back to finish up, get to the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour where we've got Connor Orr coming

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Speaker 1: on the show at the top of the hour. One more,

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Speaker 2: it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's there's a lot of people do little jobs.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there's people running there for that. It's

913
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Speaker 1: great though. So see Tasher, Chris Apasso here, we're we're

914
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Speaker 1: gonna get into the top of the hour. Connor Or

915
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Speaker 1: is going to come on and join us. Uh, lots

916
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Speaker 1: of fun stuff to talk to him about. Uh. He

917
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: is Sports Illustrated senior NFL writer and he's written some

918
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Speaker 1: stuff about you know. He thinks they're like twelve teams

919
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Speaker 1: that could actually go to and win the Super Bowl.

920
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Speaker 2: This year Old Predictions to.

921
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Speaker 1: Bold Predictions kind of thinks that the window for the

922
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Speaker 1: bills is closed. But he also thinks that the that

923
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Speaker 1: Calisia cure is one of the more underrated players on

924
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Speaker 1: the Bills roster. So a lot of stuff that we're

925
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Speaker 1: gonna ask him, well, we'll talk to him about. And

926
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Speaker 1: we're also asking you are loyal and trusted listeners, what

927
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Speaker 1: positive part of Josh Allen's game would you be okay

928
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Speaker 1: in changing. It's an interesting question because it's if it's

929
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Speaker 1: a positive, you don't want to change it too much,

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Speaker 1: but if you could trade it.

931
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Speaker 2: Or if you evolved substituting.

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Speaker 1: Or even if Josh makes it a positive, you know,

933
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Speaker 1: like running the football too much. We've got people, you know,

934
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Speaker 1: like he breaks out of a of a clean pocket

935
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Speaker 1: and that's not really a positive thing. He's breaking out

936
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Speaker 1: of a clean pocket too early. That's not positive. All

937
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Speaker 1: the stuff, and there's a lot in this question that

938
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Speaker 1: you got to kind of think about before you actually

939
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Speaker 1: spew out an answer. We've got a tweet she kind

940
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Speaker 1: of we'll get to that as well. So we've also

941
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Speaker 1: been talking a lot about what's been going on with

942
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Speaker 1: We talked about Bill Belichick going on inside the NFL, and.

943
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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be funny too. I think he's gonna.

944
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: He's gonna be great. He's gonna be great. But we've

945
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: had people call in already and talk about Josh and

946
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Speaker 1: and the thing we've read too about the short yardage

947
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Speaker 1: stuff on social. We're gonna get to that on twetsheet,

948
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Speaker 1: but I want to talk about it right now. One

949
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: of the things that Josh does is that quarterback sneak,

950
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Speaker 1: and he they use him in short yardage a lot

951
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: with his weapon is Yeah, I'm okay with saying goodbye

952
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: to that.

953
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Speaker 2: That that's a free shot on Josh Allen hand the

954
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Speaker 2: ball off.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see him evolve away from that,

956
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Speaker 1: even though he's good at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of like throughout his career, his

958
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: six year career to date, of him kind of saving

959
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: and play. There was like a fourth and two against

960
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: the Patriots a few years ago that kind of looked

961
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Speaker 3: like the play was shot and he made a defender

962
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Speaker 3: miss got the first down. In those situations, fine, it

963
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Speaker 3: was late in the game, but just like the quarterback

964
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Speaker 3: sneaks where you know, like two linebackers are going to

965
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Speaker 3: drive their helmet into his back, I don't really love

966
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Speaker 3: that necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I remember, you know, the quintessential one on

968
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboy Thanksgiving game when he drops the snap,

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Speaker 1: picks it up and then like like high steps through

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Speaker 1: the tires and you know, like get through all the

971
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Speaker 1: bodies that are in front of him, and he's got

972
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Speaker 1: two guys trying to wrench the ball out of his hands,

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Speaker 1: and he gets up and you know, gives the big.

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Speaker 2: That was a seminal moment for him.

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Speaker 1: That was when he said, you know, hey, here I

976
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Speaker 1: am on Thanksgiving. Yeah, you're gonna I'm I'm forced to

977
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Speaker 1: be reckoned with. And I think a lot of people

978
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Speaker 1: saw it as that moment. Yeah I'm okay without that

979
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Speaker 1: some you know, hurdling guys. I said it yesterday. That's

980
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Speaker 1: the thing now because of the rules in the game.

981
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Speaker 1: It's not because Josh Allen is this guy that puts

982
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Speaker 1: the cape on. It's because defenders know, a guy the

983
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: size of Josh Allen, you can't hit him in the

984
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Speaker 1: middle in between his in between his thighs and his

985
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Speaker 1: chest and get him.

986
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Speaker 2: He's gonna bounce off you.

987
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't pull him down. You're not big enough

988
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: as a defensive back to get him on the ground

989
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: or stop him cold. And it's gonna hurt. So what

990
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: guys do is they go low and if they're gonna

991
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: go that low, Josh just hops. And that's a response

992
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: to the evolution of the rules in the game. You know,

993
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: not so much that Josh is just this guy. Guys

994
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Speaker 1: come in low on him because they don't want to

995
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: take that dude on he's big.

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00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: What I think too with Josh is just he's spoken

997
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 3: a lot about in Fireball California, how he was always

998
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: playing basketball and golf and baseball. I think a lot

999
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 3: of the times when he's hurtling, it's just like a

1000
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 3: natural athletic response where if someone's diving at your feet

1001
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: and you know you're capable of doing that, you're just

1002
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 3: gonna jump. You're gonna say, oh, he's at my legs,

1003
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Speaker 3: I don't want him to take out my ankle, my knee.

1004
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna jump over him. Now, throughout the history of

1005
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: the NFL, at the quarterback spot, the vast major area

1006
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks don't have that ability. They're not really natural athletes.

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Speaker 3: They're natural throwers. Josh is a thrower, and I think

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Speaker 3: you could play, you know, any other sport at a

1009
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Speaker 3: high level.

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00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: The only other guy I ever saw do that, the

1011
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: other the quarterback was Randall Cunningham. He used to do that.

1012
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: One freaky athlete too. He was probably a great basketball player,

1013
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: a good baseball player could really do it.

1014
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: He would do that once in a while and he

1015
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: got criticized same way Josh does. He's like, that looks

1016
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: dangerous to me, right, and it is, but you know

1017
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: he did it anyway. So Steve Tasker, Christopasso, we're gonna

1018
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: take a break here, We're gonna come back with Sports

1019
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: Illustrated's Connor Or to talk about the Buffalo Bills in

1020
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: the NFL at large. Steve Tasker, christ Apasso Here until three.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio.

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Speaker 4: These One Bill's Live presented by called Lighta Health.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. We are pleased to

1025
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Speaker 1: be joined now by Sports Illustrated senior NFL writer Connor

1026
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Speaker 1: Or Connor, Thanks so much for coming on with Christoph Passo,

1027
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Pleasure to have you on. How you doing

1028
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: a good day for you today?

1029
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 7: Oh, it's sun is shining. It's a beautiful summer here

1030
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 7: in New Jersey. No complaints about you, guys.

1031
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: We're still we're getting a little bit of Hurricane barrel

1032
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: up here in the Buffalo area. We got it yesterday

1033
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: and today, so we're still recovering a little cloudy here,

1034
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: but we'll get there. We'll get there. Thanks for coming on.

1035
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: We got it. You wrote a nice little article n

1036
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: SI and it's interesting because there are there's always this

1037
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: handful of teams who have never won a Super Bowl,

1038
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: Buffalo being one of them, Detroit being one, Cleveland being one.

1039
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: And you went through a list of twelve teams that

1040
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: you think you know what these are the twelve teams

1041
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: that really have a shot at it in the current

1042
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: point of history we are in the NFL. You put

1043
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills right behind the Chiefs at number one.

1044
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: Give us an idea of what you think you know

1045
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: the common denominator is for all of these teams.

1046
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 7: It's interesting. I've gotten into a couple of good arguments

1047
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 7: about this, where people are saying, well, theoretically every team

1048
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 7: can win the Super Bowl, and yes, there's an element

1049
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 7: of truth to that, But I think that there are

1050
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 7: certain owners who spend, there are certain established coach quarterback

1051
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 7: combinations which we know matter. There are teams in a

1052
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 7: healthy financial situation without a ton of dead cap, like

1053
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 7: all these kind of calculations do play in and do

1054
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 7: factor in, and so you try to take all of

1055
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 7: those together and you put them into this list of

1056
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 7: teams that can actually win. And I think it was

1057
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 7: Robert Sala who said this last year, there's probably he

1058
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 7: said eight or nine. I think it's probably closer to

1059
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 7: ten to twelve teams every year that you could really

1060
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 7: honestly look at him and say, Okay, these guys are

1061
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 7: going for it and they possibly have what it takes.

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Speaker 3: What I think was really interesting about your write up

1063
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 3: to have the bills at number two in this article

1064
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: was you are one of the few national media members

1065
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: that liked the idea of the bills trading.

1066
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Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, Can you.

1067
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: Speak to that just what was the thought behind that

1068
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: just from watching last year or was it projecting forward

1069
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 3: now like with Digs being into his thirties, was it

1070
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: do you see a drop off for him? Explain that

1071
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: because all we've heard here in Western New York is,

1072
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: oh the bills, you know, without Digs, they're just not

1073
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: going to be the same.

1074
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: So I found that the most interesting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I would ask anybody to back that up,

1076
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 7: I mean with historical evidence, because I think a lot

1077
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 7: of times when you empower a quarterback and you let

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00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 7: him develop his own wide receivers and you let him

1079
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 7: develop that kind of unconscious relationship where they are going

1080
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 7: to be exactly where the quarterback asked them to be.

1081
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 7: That's ten times more valuable than, you know, just having

1082
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 7: a superstar, established threat. And that's always the hardest thing

1083
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 7: for fans to digest, going all the way back to

1084
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 7: Tom Brady's time in New England, when Aaron Rodgers would

1085
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 7: say time and time again, they're not drafting first round

1086
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 7: picks for me, but what the Packers were always getting

1087
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 7: him were guys like Jordy Nelson. And I don't see

1088
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 7: a world where someone like Khalil Shakir can't be that

1089
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 7: kind of guy. I mean, I watched him last year.

1090
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 7: He was one of my favorite receivers in the draft

1091
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 7: coming out of Boise State. Had these kind of Cooper

1092
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 7: Cup after the catch vibes for me, And so I

1093
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 7: don't understand if you force these guys to spend a

1094
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 7: lot of time around Josh Allen, why they can't just

1095
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 7: be where he needs them to be. And again, that

1096
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 7: to me is more valuable than oh, this one singular

1097
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 7: guy is incredibly talented.

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00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: How much stock do you put into the fact that

1099
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: the Bills with a couple of their significant guys returning,

1100
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: which would be Dalton Kinkaid and Khalil Shakir. Both those guys,

1101
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: even coming out of college were the type of guy

1102
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: like they don't they just never drop the ball their

1103
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: high efficiency. If the ball's within reach, they almost always

1104
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: pull it in. Is that? I mean, I get it

1105
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: seems crazy, but catching the ball as a wide receiver

1106
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: titan is really important. But by the same token, these

1107
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: guys are way above the curve when it comes to that.

1108
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: How big a factor is that in your evaluation?

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00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 7: It's huge. I mean, look at what we went through

1110
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 7: with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs last year, and how

1111
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 7: you know, everyone can get on the media for pointing

1112
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 7: out that, oh, you guys were doubting the Chiefs and

1113
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 7: they won the Super Bowl whatever. There was a legitimate

1114
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 7: stagnancy to that offense because Patrick Mahomes didn't have confidence

1115
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 7: in his wide receivers. I mean, they were dropping huge,

1116
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 7: game altering passes week after week after week late in

1117
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 7: the season, and that can't not impact the way that

1118
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 7: you operate and so to have guys with a great

1119
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 7: catch radius or steady hands. All it does is add

1120
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 7: to the quarterbacks confidence. It allows him to take those

1121
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 7: chances that he might not normally take, and it just

1122
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 7: makes everything run smoother. I mean, you know, I don't

1123
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 7: see a world where you know that isn't the most

1124
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 7: important part quarterback letting go of the football and believing

1125
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 7: to a high degree of certainty that it's going to

1126
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 7: be caught.

1127
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 3: I got to ask you about the New York Jets,

1128
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: the team that you have at third in your article

1129
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: of teams who could realistically win a Super Bowl this year.

1130
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: Steve and I both agree we think the lost the

1131
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: roster is loaded. Tell me your thoughts about just going

1132
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 3: into twenty twenty four of the Jets, all the Aaron

1133
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: Rodgers saga, how much do you think all those distractions

1134
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: will impact this team? And just how good do you

1135
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 3: think this team could be?

1136
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 7: Well, it's one of those things where it was funny.

1137
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 7: I was talking to someone about this the other day.

1138
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 7: If they make the playoffs or they win the division,

1139
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 7: we're going to say, of course they did look at

1140
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 7: all the stars that they sure and if they implode spectacularly,

1141
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 7: we're going to say, well, of course they did, because

1142
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 7: they tried to surround forty year old quarterback coming off

1143
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 7: of torn Achilles with two thirty three year old offensive

1144
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 7: tackles playing on a wildly unpopular artificial turf. I think

1145
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 7: I counted the Jets have four or five games on

1146
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 7: natural grass this year, So of course it was going

1147
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 7: to go right. Your number two wide receivers, Mike Williams,

1148
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 7: and that guy doesn't normally finish the season healthy, you know.

1149
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 7: So It's funny how very different and vastly different the

1150
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 7: outcomes can be here. But I just think it's hard

1151
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 7: for me to discount Aaron Rodgers with a veteran team

1152
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 7: if all things are equal and somehow they remain healthy.

1153
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's really the question. You've got a

1154
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: forty one year old quarterback, and I've been saying it

1155
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: all this week, he's gonna have to take eleven hundred

1156
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: snaps to finish an NFL season. That's a lot of football.

1157
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: Now we have now we have seen in recent years,

1158
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: and Ben Roethlisberger in Philip Rivers, in Tom Brady, Matt

1159
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: Stafford is getting into that range as well. Quarterbacks, particularly quarterbacks,

1160
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: in this league can play longer. They always have had

1161
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: have been able to because the physical mobility isn't really

1162
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: a part of the you know, the asking, you know,

1163
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: not part of the skill set they have to have

1164
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: to win because if you can win from the pocket,

1165
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: you can have one leg, but forty one coming off

1166
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: that injury, it really does seem like a precarious spot

1167
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: that Jets are in.

1168
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 7: Forty one coming off that injury. And if you're gonna

1169
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 7: run a version of the offense that Nathaniel Hackett and

1170
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 7: Rogers ran together in Green Bay, what you're asking is

1171
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 7: a lot of lateral movement, right, because the outside zone

1172
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 7: there's a ton of boot action right and so you're

1173
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 7: constantly kind of running that stretch hand off and then

1174
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 7: you're kind of back around in the pocket. So if

1175
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 7: you think about all of that as additional movements that

1176
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 7: you have to make in the backfield, I mean, I

1177
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 7: think that's what Rogers was doing on the play where

1178
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 7: he tore his achilles. That's a lot. That's a lot

1179
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 7: to ask. Now, the one benefit I think for Rodgers

1180
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 7: is once he got really comfortable with DeVante Adams, a

1181
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 7: lot of his completions were immediate. One step step drops,

1182
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 7: coming back from the center where you're not in harms

1183
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 7: weight at all. You're immediately getting rid of the football.

1184
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 7: Have a hand signal or a look or whatever you

1185
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 7: want to do, You're immediately getting your best receiver of

1186
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 7: the ball, and you're no worse for the wear because

1187
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 7: of it. If he can do that with Garrett Wilson,

1188
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 7: I think they're going to be fine. But if this

1189
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 7: is a real traditional boot action outside zone offense, yeah,

1190
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 7: I mean I think there's a lot of concern about.

1191
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: That staying within the division.

1192
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: I got to ask you about the Dolphins and we're

1193
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: talking about this which teams could win the Super Bowl.

1194
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: You also wrote one hundred bold predictions, and as someone

1195
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: that way back in the day used to write like

1196
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: slide shows for Bleacher Report that were fifty slides long,

1197
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: one hundred bold predictions, hats off to you for actually

1198
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: writing that. I urge anyone to go. You will find

1199
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: your team something that Connor has predicted for your.

1200
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: Team on there.

1201
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: But at forty seven you wrote that the Dolphins will

1202
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: struggle to or likely miss. They're over under projection on

1203
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: win totals, which is nine point five. Can you talk

1204
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: about just your overarching thoughts on the Dolphins and maybe

1205
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: regressing a little bit this year.

1206
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 7: It's hard because the older that this offense gets, and

1207
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 7: that we've already seen a fairer sample size in this

1208
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 7: where the speed oriented part of this team tends to

1209
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 7: break down at the end of the season. And you know,

1210
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 7: it was interesting, like I was looking at what Tyreek

1211
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 7: Hill does before the snap, and he's in a crouched

1212
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 7: position outside the tight end. Then he hops up and

1213
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 7: then he goes on a dead sprint in motion behind

1214
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 7: the quarterback, and then another dead sprint out into the

1215
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 7: field to try to catch pass. And if you talk

1216
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 7: to experts, let's say that coach track and field for

1217
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 7: a living, for example, and you ask them to take

1218
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 7: a look at that repetitive motion over and over and

1219
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 7: over and over again, it's hard to maintain health and

1220
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 7: consistency and you know volume, and so you know, as

1221
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 7: ingenious of the design of this team as it was,

1222
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 7: we've just seen them kind of struggle in November, December

1223
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 7: and January when the wear and tear of this sprinting

1224
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 7: and this heavy kind of athleticism kind of takes its toll.

1225
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 7: And I've been wondering for years kind of when they're

1226
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 7: going to add that power element to the game where

1227
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 7: they can kind of spell themselves a little bit when

1228
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 7: you get into the winter months.

1229
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: That's a really good point.

1230
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: What and of your hundred bold predictions, which one have

1231
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: you got the most negative feedback about? I mean you've

1232
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: got because I know when you put out these bold predictions,

1233
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean you're almost inviting the slings and arrows of

1234
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, of fortune. So well, give us an idea

1235
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: of what really struck a nerve with a lot of people.

1236
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 7: It's funny, like you know, in the back end of it.

1237
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 7: Every year I'll put like a joke, like one year

1238
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, you know, your wife will leave

1239
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 7: you for a peloton instructor or something like that, you know,

1240
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 7: just like just to get to a hundred and I mean,

1241
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 7: you know, it's hard to get to a hundred and

1242
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 7: so with that, like it's a little tongue in cheeky

1243
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 7: and so to see people debating it so seriously, you know,

1244
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 7: makes me laugh. But I think Joe Burrow having MVP

1245
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 7: consideration had a lot of people pretty hot. Just my

1246
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 7: general love of the Bengals seem to get a lot

1247
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 7: of people upset, you know, and just the random ones too.

1248
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 7: I think everyone was kind of mad that I had, like,

1249
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 7: you know, Rashad Penny having like a three hundred yard

1250
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 7: rushing game. But who's to say what's gonna happen in

1251
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 7: November when like everyone's hurt. I mean, I remember as

1252
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 7: a kid growing up a Browns fan, in like Lee

1253
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 7: Suggs running for two hundred and twenty yards at the

1254
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 7: end of a game during a season, You'd never know

1255
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 7: what could happen.

1256
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: So right, true last one for me, this was not

1257
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 3: anything from what you've written, so I'll give you some

1258
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: time to think about it. Besides the Chiefs, of course,

1259
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: because they're at the top. What other team do you

1260
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: think is the biggest competitor for the Bills inside the AFC?

1261
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: Is it the Bengals? Maybe it is because you mentioned

1262
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: that you're really high on them.

1263
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 6: Is it the.

1264
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: Ravens, the Jets? Which team?

1265
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: Because I wrote this article a few weeks ago and

1266
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, I kind of want to pull other

1267
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: national media members. What other team do you think is

1268
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: the stiffest competition for the Bills this season in the AFC?

1269
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's whoever survives the North, right, Okay,

1270
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 7: And I think really stereotypically how it's been and the North,

1271
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 7: there's so much vacillation there built in. Like you know,

1272
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 7: I didn't list the Steelers, for example, as a team

1273
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 7: that can win the Super Bowl. But if Russell Wilson

1274
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 7: goes twenty six and eight like with touchdown interception like

1275
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 7: he did in Denver last year, that's a team that

1276
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 7: could make the AFC Championship. I mean, can you pick

1277
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 7: it through seven touchdowns last year? That's ridiculous. So if

1278
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 7: you think about it from that perspective, whatever team kind

1279
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 7: of finishes beating themselves up and survives that division I

1280
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 7: always feel is like the most battle tested, and then

1281
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 7: you have Buffalo and you have Kansas City and that

1282
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 7: kind of rounds out that elite upper core of the division.

1283
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 7: I think Houston to me is still another year away

1284
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 7: and we'll see what happens there. I mean, they were

1285
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 7: a win away from, you know, the Colts winning that division, right,

1286
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 7: and the Colts scored twenty more points than the Texans

1287
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 7: did last year. The Texans now have the hardest schedule

1288
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 7: in their division, so I don't see them as there

1289
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 7: quite yet. I think it's really as the Bills, the

1290
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,479
Speaker 7: Chiefs and that AFC North.

1291
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: So as you look at the AFC East, and this

1292
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: is one this is kind of where we live. Obviously,

1293
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: if I think your opinion about how the East is

1294
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: going to turn out for anybody, not just you, but

1295
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: anybody depends on your confidence that the Jets can keep

1296
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers on two good wheels, and how you feel

1297
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: about the Dolphins overall. The Patriots kind of everybody kind

1298
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: of sets them to the side as they're in a

1299
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: rebuilding project and the Bills are the four time champions,

1300
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: so and however much you discount them for the offseason

1301
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: they've had, But it really comes down to where you

1302
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: put the Dolphins and the Jets and how much confidence

1303
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: you have in a forty one year old quarterback and

1304
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: in the Dolphins, like you said, can they keep on

1305
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: keeping on and finish games? Where do you stand on

1306
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: the AFC East? Certainly you're you know, not everybody's picking

1307
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: the Bills, and a lot of people are picking the

1308
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: Dolphins and the Jets to supersede them. What do you think.

1309
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 7: I have the Bills and the Jets as kind of

1310
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 7: my one in one a there and I think that again.

1311
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm leaning not only on Aaron Rodgers being healthy,

1312
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 7: but I think what we're not talking a lot about

1313
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 7: there is this is as deep a defense as Robert

1314
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 7: Saal has ever had. I would argue that it's probably

1315
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 7: as good, if not slightly better and the defense that

1316
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 7: he had coached with the forty nine Ers the year

1317
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 7: that they made the Super Bowl against Kansas City. Assuming

1318
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 7: some of those pass rushers are going to take the

1319
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 7: next step there, but that team is very, very deep.

1320
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 7: They have like hockey line style depth at defensive line.

1321
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 7: I think they're very, very talented. And so even if

1322
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers goes down a forty year old Aaron Rodgers

1323
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 7: versus Tyrod Taylor, I mean, you know, there's obviously a

1324
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 7: drop off there. But I mean they almost beat the

1325
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 7: Chiefs with Zack Wilson last year. They beat the Eagles

1326
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 7: with Zack Wilson last year. This was not a bad

1327
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 7: football team. So I have the Jets and the Bills

1328
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 7: as sort of my one in one A. I would

1329
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 7: guess that one or two divisional games sort of decide that,

1330
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 7: and then the Dolphins are very clearly my three, and

1331
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 7: Patriots really clearly my four.

1332
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: Right, Nay, Connor, thanks thanks for joining us, but appreciate

1333
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: you giving us some time and hope we can touch

1334
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: cross path again during the preseason or sometime during the

1335
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: regular season.

1336
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 7: All Right, we'll see after I make my trip to

1337
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 7: bar Bill in a couple of weeks.

1338
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: All Right, Connor, thanks a lot. Sports Illustrated senior NFL writer,

1339
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: Connor or, thanks for joining us. Chris, there's a lot

1340
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: in that. I mean, yeah, he really is, and I

1341
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: get that the stuff he's saying, he's he's kind of

1342
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: right where we're at with the Jets. Yes, the Jets

1343
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: scare me more than any other team maybe in the AFC,

1344
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: because we play him twice.

1345
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 3: And because for as good as Josh Allen's been against

1346
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, he struggled and the offense has struggled with

1347
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 3: different looks and blitzing and like Connor was saying, just

1348
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: the hockey line, defensive line that they have that they

1349
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 3: can send out multiple rushers. Josh's stats against the Jets

1350
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 3: have not been very good.

1351
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their problem, they really are. Robert Sala came

1352
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: over from San Francisco after he had seen Josh Allen

1353
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: on a Monday night game and that's.

1354
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: I think that's still his best or one of his That's.

1355
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: One of Josh's best games ever. And Robert sala is

1356
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: one of those defensive coordinators at the time, he was

1357
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: standing there going, he goes, I don't know, he goes,

1358
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: how I beat this guy?

1359
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: I can't do it.

1360
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean I've called, I've made some great calls with

1361
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: some great defensive players, and this guy's just turned, you know,

1362
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: pushed it into my face. Now he is doing it for

1363
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: the Jets, and and Josh has struggled against that team

1364
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: now a little bit of it. Particularly an opening night

1365
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: last year, Josh was off his rocker. A yeah, I

1366
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: thought he's adrenaline back when we were talking about sugar

1367
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: high Josh where he just you just got to get

1368
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: tell him to take a deep breath, just take what's there,

1369
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: easier way down the field and get it in the

1370
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: end zone somehow, some way. And you know, in that night,

1371
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: Josh was heaving it down the field for interceptions through

1372
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: three interceptions in that game, two of which were costly.

1373
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: The other one was was a punt. So I yeah,

1374
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: this Jet version of a football team is to me,

1375
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: the scariest we have said for two or three years now,

1376
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: the Jets have drafted well, they've done a lot of

1377
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: really smart things. The Rogers trade to get him was

1378
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: I thought masterful. That was a great bold move. No question,

1379
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: he's older, he doesn't have that many years left, but

1380
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: to get the guy they wanted who can step in,

1381
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: plug and play and be good right away was exactly

1382
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: what the Jets needed. And of course last year it

1383
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: blew up in their face. But we'll see.

1384
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 3: I think how Connor put it was perfect that we

1385
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: won't be surprised either way. That if Mike Williams gets

1386
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 3: hurt in October, Aaron Rodgers is doing a lot off

1387
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: the field and media distractions, then he gets hurt, Tyron

1388
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: Smith goes down, Morgan Moses goes down, we'll be like, oh, yeah,

1389
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 3: like we should have seen this coming. Or if they

1390
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: stay relatively healthy, we're like, yeah, that roster Like You've

1391
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 3: said it, I've said it, We've all kind.

1392
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: Of say this, though nobody stays healthy.

1393
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean, that's true, nobody, no team stays healthy. So

1394
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 3: that's why I'm a little roster wise. I get it,

1395
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 3: but I'm a little bit down on the Jets because

1396
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna have injuries.

1397
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: It's an impossible it's an impossible puzzle to put together

1398
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: from this end of the schedule because we there's so

1399
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: much we don't know. But sitting here and I'll say

1400
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: it again, man, a thousand snaps for quarterbacks, a long

1401
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: season and forty one year old playing was you know,

1402
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: playing for the first time in two plus years.

1403
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.

1404
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: It's a lot to ask.

1405
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: How about kind of stealing to kind of like stealing

1406
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: some of Connor's analysis too, mentioning how late in the

1407
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 3: season it seems like all the sprinting, all the running

1408
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: that the Dolphins do, they kind of wear down.

1409
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: They don't have as much speed.

1410
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill got hurt last year, Jalen Waddle got hurt

1411
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: the year before. It was Tua in that fast paced offense.

1412
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 3: I wonder if a lot of the boot action that

1413
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 3: he mentioned with Nate Hackett and Aaron Rodgers. It's one

1414
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 3: thing if maybe in September he can do it, but

1415
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 3: can he still do it at the same with the

1416
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: same snap and the same twitchiness in November and December

1417
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: when it's colder and he's done it, Like you're mentioning,

1418
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: close to a thousand times dropping back I wonder if

1419
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: again off the Achilles and being forty one, that could

1420
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: maybe come into play with Aaron Rodgers as well.

1421
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: When the Dolphins came down, they went three and five

1422
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: or three and two down the stretch. I'm sorry, two

1423
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: and three down the stretch. Two wins, three losses down

1424
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: the stretch. Last five games. I remember the Bills.

1425
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: Everyone said it was a Dolphins division. It was over.

1426
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: We're three games back with six games to play, five

1427
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: games to play, and they walked them down and beat

1428
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: them in the final game of the season, and I

1429
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: think they you could really tell something was wrong with

1430
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. In Week seventeen of last year, they played

1431
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and they had struggled against good teams. Sorry,

1432
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: here we go, We're gonna get this, get this going.

1433
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: The Ravens dropped fifty six points on the Dolphins, fifty

1434
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: six to nineteen. They beat those guys. I thought the

1435
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: outcome of the Bills Dolphins game the next week was

1436
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion.

1437
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: After that game, it kind of felt that.

1438
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: Way, absolutely pulled the ripcord. And I think that speaks

1439
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: to Yeah, it does speak to a little bit of

1440
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: the leadership. Mike McDaniel. Maybe maybe he didn't keep them

1441
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: going stuff, but it seems to me like they felt

1442
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: in their hearts they had no shot.

1443
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 3: And it kind of feels like we talked about yesterday,

1444
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 3: the balance at the Bills have have had, you know,

1445
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: with the most or the highest point in differential in

1446
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 3: the league over the last couple of years, like almost

1447
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 3: seven hundred in the positive. I think with the Dolphins

1448
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: they kind of felt like, hey, we do need to

1449
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 3: score like thirty or forty points. And then once those

1450
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: pass rushers went down, Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb, they

1451
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 3: were like man. And then Andrew Van Ginkle went down

1452
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 3: against the Bills in that final game, they were like,

1453
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: we don't have really anything in the pass rush. Xavian

1454
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 3: Howard was standing on one leg. He's gone now, Christian

1455
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 3: Wilkins is gone. So they're a team that I think

1456
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 3: against a mediocre and certainly against a low level team,

1457
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 3: they can drop seventy, But in terms of balance, can

1458
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 3: they win a seventeen fourteen game, a twenty one to

1459
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 3: seventeen game. They haven't really proven to be able to

1460
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 3: do that.

1461
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: The thing that is the thing that makes NFL a

1462
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: little different is you see the grind of an eighty

1463
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: two game NBA season, eighty two game hockey season. You

1464
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: see that grind take place over the course of seventeen games.

1465
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: It is a grind. So you see the Dolphins come

1466
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: out fresh out of the rapper and score seventy to

1467
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: seventy points on the Broncos in Week three, but at

1468
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: the end of the season they're getting slapped in the

1469
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: face by fifty six points.

1470
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: And I know it was yeah, yeah, and the.

1471
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: Injuries that the Bills had in the Divisional round defensively

1472
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: is what happened to the Dolphins. Yes, a week or

1473
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: two before.

1474
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say.

1475
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's the same thing that happens

1476
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: to every team. You get you get your head beat in.

1477
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 3: And I know it was so cold in that wild

1478
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 3: card loss to the Chiefs, but that Dolphins team had

1479
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 3: zero juice. There was the long touchdown to Tyreek Hill

1480
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: that was kind of just a great play by him.

1481
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: Besides that, it felt like they couldn't get a first down.

1482
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: I really feel That's why I feel like that's fifty

1483
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: six points they gave up. The week before they felt like, man,

1484
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: if we gave up sixty three points fifty six points

1485
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: to these guys, and we got the Bills now with Allen.

1486
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 3: And then we have Mahomes next, I mean the playoffs.

1487
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 3: What I do think is interesting, and we didn't get

1488
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 3: to talk about this yesterday. I'm a big believer because

1489
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: we're talking about rest and being able to stay fresh

1490
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 3: throughout the season.

1491
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: Big believer.

1492
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 3: And there is some correlation that teams getting to the

1493
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 3: super Bowl or even winning a super Bowl typically over

1494
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: the last decade have a later bye week. The Dolphins

1495
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: have a bye week Week six, and for a team

1496
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 3: that has that trend of starting hot, starting fast, dwindling

1497
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 3: down the stretch, that's probably the last thing they wanted

1498
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 3: to see on their schedule as a week six. By

1499
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 3: week the Bills have theirs week twelve or week thirteen

1500
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 3: this year thirteen.

1501
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: I think it's right at Thanksgiving. Yeah, get Thanksgiving.

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 3: Off, so after being on Thanksgiving a bunch last couple

1503
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 3: of years. So for the Dolphins, that's not necessarily a

1504
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 3: great omen to have that early bye week. You know,

1505
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 3: midway portion of October.

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01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 1: We'll break. We're gonna take a break here, give us

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01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: a little extra time in the next segment to go

1508
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: over the tweets you. We got a lot of feedback

1509
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: on our Twitter poll, which is what positive part of

1510
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's game would you be okay with changing. We're

1511
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: gonna get to that your tweets when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tashter, Christapasser. We're here till three o'clock. This is

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

1514
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Before we get to the tweet sheet

1515
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: for today, we're going to go to the phones and

1516
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: talk to our guy Jimmy in Miami. Jimmy, you got

1517
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: some ideas about what the problem is in Miami with

1518
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. You think it's their tight end?

1519
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 8: Go ahead, Yeah, you know. I hear a lot down

1520
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 8: here in Miami. And the thing is after that game

1521
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,520
Speaker 8: with Kansas City, the playoff game, of course, the criticisms

1522
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 8: with Tour were really vicious, and it was really sad

1523
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 8: to hear it because he had such a really good year.

1524
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 8: But when it comes to the winter months, like in

1525
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 8: November December, when the wind's blown and it's rainy, we

1526
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 8: all know he doesn't have the arm strength. The thing

1527
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 8: is McDaniel coming from San Francisco, you would think with

1528
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 8: Kittle there his all world tight end. You know, Miami

1529
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 8: is the only AFC team that did not have a

1530
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,799
Speaker 8: tight end a touchdown pass all season. They're tight end smite.

1531
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 8: I think he only had three hundred and sixty yards receiving,

1532
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,799
Speaker 8: which is really beautiful. So I mean, he just doesn't

1533
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 8: game plan for the tight end in the.

1534
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 9: Really horrible weather where Tua just needs to throw a

1535
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 9: four or five yard pass, you know, where you got

1536
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 9: a big, strong, athletic kid matching up against the linebacker

1537
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 9: that might only be two hundred and twenty pounds, you know.

1538
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 8: I mean, we know how that is with Knox and

1539
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 8: Kim Kate, how they match up with smaller guys, but

1540
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 8: they just I just don't understand why McDaniel just didn't

1541
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 8: do that for him. If you remember the Kansas City

1542
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 8: playoffs game, he throws that touchdown pass to Tyreek Hill,

1543
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 8: but the ball floated up there. He'll had to come

1544
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 8: back to catch it, and then of course he scored

1545
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 8: the touchdown. But you know, he just doesn't have the

1546
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 8: arm strength. And I think this year, well they got

1547
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 8: this John O. Smith from Atlanta so on a trade.

1548
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 8: So I think he's going to be good. I don't

1549
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 8: know what they did in the asked, but I think

1550
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 8: that their definite lackwit of offensive firepower was not rowing

1551
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 8: to a tight end when they really needed it to

1552
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 8: Tua and it just showed. But anyway, that's.

1553
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: All I hate, all right, Thanks, Hey, Jimmy, thanks for

1554
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: the call. Appreciated. I'm kind of.

1555
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 3: Not balanced, right, I mean, that's what we've been talking

1556
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 3: about a lot with the Bills, that they could throw

1557
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: it to Kincai.

1558
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: They can throw it to a lot of different receivers.

1559
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: James Cook can have a game.

1560
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: The Dolphins run game was very good last season when

1561
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: they weren't scoring through the air, but there was really

1562
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 3: no tight end. John new Smith coming off a career

1563
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,839
Speaker 3: year with the Falcons last season. He's not yet thirty.

1564
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they feel like he could maybe

1565
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: be a guy. Was weird to me that mi Keasicki

1566
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 3: being a mid four to five tight end with a

1567
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 3: forty one and a half inch vertical kind of felt like.

1568
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: That he's six seven too, Yeah, like freaking.

1569
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 3: Volleyball player, felt like the perfect guy in Mike McDaniel's offense.

1570
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 3: They didn't really use him and he ultimately signed with

1571
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 3: the Patriots last year. So maybe it's just they don't

1572
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 3: want to utilize the tight end. And then if Tyreek

1573
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 3: Kill and Jadon Long go to then yeah, there's.

1574
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: A lot in this, no question that when you get

1575
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: laid in the season and you've got to you gotta

1576
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: find a way to win in the cold weather. Well

1577
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: what if the Dolphins were the one seed and they

1578
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: didn't have to win in the cold weather. They don't

1579
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: need that tight end. And anytime you go into Kansas City,

1580
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna your tight ends are gonna get compared to

1581
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce. If you go to San Francisco, you're gonna

1582
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: get compared to Kittle. And I'll tell you why the

1583
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: Dolphins don't have an elite tight end. They're not they're

1584
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: not prevalent. They're hard to find. Yeah, they don't just

1585
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: drop out of the sky. You gotta go out and

1586
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: you gotta go get them. The best way to get

1587
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: an elite tight end is to steal one, and they

1588
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: just don't come up on the market very much. So

1589
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: I get you're right. They may need another weapon in

1590
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: their passing it. I don't know how I get it

1591
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: to his arm is not strong enough, in my opinion,

1592
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: and Tyreek can outrun it. That's a problem and the problem.

1593
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: Another problem is that even if Tyreek is not going

1594
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: to outrun to his arm, Tua can't outthrow the break

1595
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: of the safety coming out of the middle of the field.

1596
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: So if if Tyreek's twenty five thirty forty yards down

1597
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: the field and Tua throws it to him, he can't

1598
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: get it there fast enough so that the safety in

1599
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: the middle of the field can't see it and run

1600
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: to it before the ball gets there. Because two has

1601
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: to arc it so much, it's in the air too long.

1602
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: So that's all. It's a ripple effect armstrength. Poyer and

1603
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: Hyde had no fear of to his arm. They had

1604
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: fear of.

1605
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: Tyreek's speed speed absolutely, But.

1606
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: The Bills had a great have always have great defensive

1607
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: game plans. They know how to handle the combination of

1608
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: to his arm and Tyreek's speed. Now, certainly, if Tyreek

1609
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: gets loose, you know they can still decipher ways to

1610
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: get him, and he has hurt the Bills in the past,

1611
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: but you know, Tua is still the limiting factor there.

1612
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: So I see all that I think, And while I

1613
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: appreciate the perspective of yes they could. You know, a

1614
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: good tight end makes everybody better. I don't know that

1615
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: that's the ingredient that would put the Dolphins over the top.

1616
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 3: It's more about Tua and his lack of physical ability.

1617
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,879
Speaker 3: He's one in six with a quarterback rating of seventy

1618
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 3: seven point four against the Bills with six touchdowns, seven interceptions.

1619
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: And I'll say that to you when Tua is in

1620
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: a spot there with the Bills, it's not just him,

1621
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: it's Josh and what he does the Dolphins, and all

1622
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the tuas got his back to the way.

1623
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: He's got a score for thirty five points in the

1624
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: second half to hang in there. That kind of thing.

1625
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: So we'll see. And we also have a call from Kevin.

1626
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: Kevin in New York City. What's on your mind? Kevin?

1627
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 6: You there, I'm here, Go ahead, did you hear me? Yes?

1628
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 4: Yes?

1629
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 6: Just want I tell you I watched you from Desert

1630
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 6: Storm way back when we had a powerhouse team back then.

1631
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 6: Great watching it, and I think we've got a hell

1632
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 6: of a powerhouse team now. And what I want to

1633
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 6: see develop is just's decision making with multiple receivers, running backs,

1634
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 6: tight ends, I think it opens him wide up to

1635
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 6: really advance his game and take us that next step, all.

1636
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 3: Right, Kevin, Yeah, And I think that's the philosophy that

1637
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 3: the Bills have tried to instill into this offense, to say,

1638
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, let's not just say make better decisions. That's easy,

1639
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 3: And every coach is saying that to their quarterback this offseason.

1640
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 3: It's let's make it easier for you to make better

1641
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 3: decisions by not forcing it, by not feeling like you

1642
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 3: need to chuck it over the top of the defense

1643
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 3: or you need to, like you said, leave a clean pocket,

1644
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 3: give you more weapons who are going to get open

1645
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: from different formations and really can fuse the defense. The

1646
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 3: Bills have been near the bottom of the league and

1647
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 3: yards after the catch. They were twenty first last year,

1648
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: which was actually an improvement from where they were in

1649
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. In twenty twenty two when they were

1650
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 3: at dead last, and then they went up to thirty

1651
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 3: first and then twenty first last year. So I think

1652
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 3: the yards after the catch improvement. If that continues with

1653
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 3: Joe Brady, I think that will be huge. The Chiefs

1654
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers are always near the top

1655
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 3: of the league. The Bengals have been very good. If

1656
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 3: you're watching on MSGU you can see now last year

1657
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers six point five yards after the

1658
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 3: catch per reception, the best in the league. Right behind

1659
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 3: them the Chiefs at six point four, the Bills in

1660
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 3: twenty first at only five point one. Patrick Mahomes had

1661
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 3: something like seven hundred and seven more yards than Josh

1662
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 3: Allen after the catch. So I think that is huge

1663
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 3: and speaks exactly to what Kevin was calling about, to

1664
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: just make better decisions and trust his playmakers to make play.

1665
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: Some of that happens. Some of it has to be

1666
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: when you have what you what returns you get for

1667
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: the decisions you make, and Josh is still dumping it

1668
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 1: off and they're they're you're dinking, dunking down the field

1669
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: and they're doing okay, and.

1670
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: They're getting tackled right away.

1671
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: It has to be something he craves to doing. And

1672
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: I don't think he really want to just say, flip

1673
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: a switch and make him into some different quarterback, But

1674
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: there does have to be a time or a place

1675
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: where you can balance it out with the ball's got

1676
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: to come out fast, uh and if it you know,

1677
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: if it does, We're gonna keep stay on the field

1678
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: and keep going down and here we go. You don't.

1679
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: And the problem is, too, is when he got drops

1680
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: back and he sees it well, like in the Dalton

1681
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: Kincaid play we've been talking about, he looks left, comes

1682
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: back right and then slings it. It looks like it

1683
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: happens fast. But that's a fact. That's a slow developing

1684
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: play because you know he's got and look off and

1685
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: come back even faster than that. So but but if

1686
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw plays like that, you got to give

1687
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: it a minute, you know, give it a moment to develop.

1688
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: So it's a fine balance. And who knows if they're

1689
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: ever going to strike it with Josh. But I get

1690
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: I get the I get the general.

1691
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

1692
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 3: And what's interesting and what kind of speaks to Josh

1693
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 3: being such a rare cat at the quarterback position. If

1694
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 3: you look at the analytics, a lot of analysts will say,

1695
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 3: if you're on PFF and you see time to throw

1696
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: and you're near the highest in the league, if you're

1697
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 3: holding onto the ball, that's.

1698
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 2: You're justin fields.

1699
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: That's your Russell Wilson's, that's your Kenny Pickett last year,

1700
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,879
Speaker 3: it's usually a bad thing. Well, Josh Allen is almost

1701
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 3: always near the top of the league average time to throw.

1702
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 3: He holds onto it because, like we mentioned earlier, his

1703
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 3: athleticism and his arm. He always has that in his

1704
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 3: back pocket that even if he starts the game maybe

1705
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: the first half, he's dnking and duncan getting it out

1706
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 3: quickly if he needs to, or he just feels an

1707
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 3: it's to make that big play. He can make an

1708
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 3: edge rusher, miss stiff armer linebacker and then throw it

1709
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 3: over the top. So it's interesting that, yes, I think

1710
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: we would all want him to get rid of the

1711
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 3: football a little bit quicker than he has in his career,

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01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 3: But like you're saying, Steve, you don't want to take

1713
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:04,480
Speaker 3: away that big playability.

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01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 1: Let's get to the tweet sheet. Tweet sheet brought to

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01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,879
Speaker 1: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

1716
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills from Bill's banter. On the tweet sheet,

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01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: he says, I'd be happy with more checkdowns instead of

1718
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: the laser throws to tight windows that we all know

1719
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: he can make first downs and occasional punts are better

1720
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: than interceptions. Some truth to that, No, question. I think

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01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of the that's one of the narratives that

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01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: has followed Josh anything but anything except interceptions, please. I

1723
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: get that as long as he still tries to make

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 1: those throws once in a while and is successful.

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01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 3: And because I think that's what separates the good, the

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01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 3: good quarterbacks from the great quarterbacks, and then the great

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01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: from the elite are those tight window whether it's whether

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01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: it's on the first drive of the game, whether it's

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01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 3: in late in the fourth quarter, the wow throws that

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01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 3: are going on the highlight reel, the ones that to

1731
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: a tongue of Iloa can't make and Josh Allen, can

1732
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: you still want that in his game?

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01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: That's right from Greg on the tweets sheet time management

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01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: question mark could it'd be cool if we'd have the

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01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: ball last so the defense doesn't blow it? There is

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01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: a lot of there is a little bit of a

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01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: sentiment that.

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01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: This does it happen last year a few times?

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01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: Right that the defense couldn't get the other team off

1740
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 1: the field. I get it.

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01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 3: It can't really plan for when you're gonna score at

1742
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 3: the end of a game. And I think if you

1743
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 3: look at a larger sample size in the Sean McDermott era,

1744
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 3: if we're going to speak directly to defense, the Bill's

1745
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,799
Speaker 3: defense has done a very good job closing out games.

1746
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: This has not been.

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01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 3: A two or three or four year trend where man

1748
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: Josh Allen leaves the field and he's got the lead

1749
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: and up the Bills blew another win for him. It

1750
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 3: certainly has happened thirteen seconds chief among them, and a

1751
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 3: few of those games the Patriots lost in Foxborough last

1752
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: year probably fresh in the minds of a lot of fans.

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01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 3: But I think overall the Bills and Sean McDermott have

1754
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: evolved gotten better with time management, whether you know, to

1755
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: go for it, whether not to time out usage, review usage.

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01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 3: So I think in general the trend has been pret

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01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 3: pretty positive.

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01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,839
Speaker 1: Ver Sean McDermott, also from the tweet sheet the return

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01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: from Ryan, He says, the return of the dink and

1760
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: dunk ten minute drive offense. I get that, and I

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01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that at all. I mean,

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01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: I get it. We all like the aerial show that

1763
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: you know two years ago, when you know, on the

1764
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: first third down of the game, he hits Gabe Davis

1765
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: for a ninety five yard touchdown, and all that kind

1766
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: of stuff. It's fun. I'll say this, Yes, that would

1767
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: be great to pull out once in a while and

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01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: to be able to do that whenever you want. But

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01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 1: I think it's just one more aspect of an offense

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: that you've got to be able to do in order

1771
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: to win. You still have to have the deep ball.

1772
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: You've still got to be able to threaten every inch

1773
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: of the field like only Josh Allen's arm can do

1774
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: when you're in your deep, in your own end. And

1775
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: they still got to defend the far corner. You still

1776
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: got to be able to do that. But the dink

1777
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: and dunk, and I think people like it because it

1778
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: always looks so easy when you make it work, when

1779
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 1: you get first downs on second down and second and

1780
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: now we got second and eight. We got eight yards

1781
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: on first down. Now second and two. Now it's first

1782
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: and ten again. Let's go. Now it's second and two again,

1783
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: first and ten. Here we go. You never even get

1784
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: to third down. It makes it looks so easy. And

1785
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: the Bills have had games like that, oh absolutely, But

1786
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: you're still one of the reasons offenses like that work. One,

1787
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: it's quarterback playing at a high level and great receivers

1788
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: who he trusts, but it's also the threat of other

1789
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: things that the defense is not just gonna squat on

1790
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 1: these short routes and take him away like the Bills

1791
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: due to Miami.

1792
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how about this too.

1793
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: Like we've talked about how much the NFL evolves and

1794
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 3: quickly changes every year, it almost feels like it's a

1795
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 3: moving target to just try to nitpick to figure out

1796
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 3: what's what could be better with Josh Allen. At the

1797
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 3: beginning of the twenty twenty two season, when they went

1798
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 3: to open the season in LA, they spanked the Rams

1799
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 3: after they won the Super Bowl. That was kind of

1800
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 3: a quick strike passing offense from Josh Allen. The first

1801
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 3: couple games, it was where's the deep ball, Where's the

1802
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 3: deep ball?

1803
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: Where's the deep ball?

1804
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 3: Last year there was plenty of deep balls down the

1805
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 3: field that he made ridiculous plays, a touchdown to gave

1806
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: Davis against the Chargers. There's so many. Now we're kind

1807
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 3: of asking for the dink and dunk again. So it's

1808
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 3: almost like there has to be a balance. And in me,

1809
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 3: just following this from Afar, I remember that when people

1810
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 3: wanted the deep ball more, they wanted dink and dunk.

1811
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 3: Imagine what it's like for Josh Allen when he's entering

1812
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 3: a season. In between weeks and then certainly in the

1813
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 3: course of a game, it's hey, have I been underneath

1814
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 3: too much? Or I need to hit that big play.

1815
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 3: I think that probably is in his mind as well.

1816
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We'll come back to finish

1817
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: up the tweet sheet and wrap things up here on

1818
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Right after this Steve Tasker, Christapass So

1819
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here One Bill's Live,

1820
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Christah Passer to finish things up here.

1821
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,839
Speaker 1: We'll go back to the tweet sheet, and it's about

1822
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: what positive part of Josh Allen's game would you be

1823
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: okay changing from? And she says I'd be okay with

1824
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 1: him not hurdling players if it means the receiving course

1825
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: getting open, more separation. But I do love watching him hurtle.

1826
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: I think I love it, but don't do it anymore. Yeah,

1827
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 1: good one. And we've had this thing is Mark says

1828
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: deep passes most of the time he either overthrows the

1829
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: ball or overthrows the receiver or throws an interception. So

1830
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: he doesn't like the deep pass because they're not as

1831
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: high percentage throws as the short passes. Kenny's kind of

1832
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. He says, hit quick, easy routes early

1833
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: in games to get him in rhythm. Sometimes it seems

1834
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: the short, quick passes are tough for him, but when

1835
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: he's on the run, he can fit it in any window.

1836
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 1: There's something in that as well, where you see Josh

1837
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: like backing out of bounds on his heels and he

1838
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: does the hook shot and completes the pass, or you know,

1839
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: rolling to his right. We've heard a lot about how

1840
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: he rolls to his right and he never misses the

1841
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: throw no matter what kind of position he's in. So

1842
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot about this. And then, as we said

1843
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: top of the show, and two hours ago, Dion Dawkins

1844
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: was on Colin Coward and he was asked about Josh

1845
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: in the offseason and and did some stuff about being talkative,

1846
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: said stuff about Josh being more talkative. This from Steve

1847
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Josh is not only a great quarterback,

1848
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: but he's super nice guy. If I had to pick

1849
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: one thing I would like to see evolve, it would

1850
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: be him being more demanding and getting on teammates when

1851
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 1: it is necessary. A few players would respond out of

1852
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: total respect because Josh cares about people.

1853
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:23,600
Speaker 3: That's fascinating. What do you think about that as a

1854
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 3: former player, was Jim like that at all?

1855
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Very much so like as is, Yes, Jim would.

1856
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: Jim would absolutely get on you, but he would also

1857
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: take He would also get on him. He would. He

1858
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: had self awarness his life. That was a great bad throw.

1859
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: When he took responsibility for his own mistakes, he had

1860
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: total license for guys like me and Andre and to

1861
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: go out and say what are you doing, don't do that,

1862
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: do this, this, this, and this.

1863
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: It's got to be reciprocal.

1864
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did not. And when Jim first got to Bubble,

1865
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: he didn't handle that very well. He was just ripping

1866
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: everybody because it was a bad team. But as it

1867
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: got better and he would, you know, he would acknowledge

1868
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: his mistakes and that guys would absolutely jump in front

1869
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: of a bus for him.

1870
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 2: And I feel like part of it has the same dynamic.

1871
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 3: Absolutely could get on his teammates without them not like absolutely.

1872
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: I think that's important. Uh, it's not just a it's

1873
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: not just you know, belly aching and cursing guys out

1874
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: and doing all that. It's it's having something constructive to

1875
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: say and being right, of course, but also if it's

1876
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 1: your fault, say it's your fault.

1877
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 3: Just that goes on a high standard, whether it's Josh

1878
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 3: making the right throw or the receiver running the right route, whatever.

1879
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: Holding everybody to a high standard, including yourself, gains a

1880
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: lot of respect for sure. And he do that, Steve Tasker,

1881
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: Christoph Pass. We're gonna take it off the air for today.

1882
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: We'll be back at one o'clock tomorrow Friday. Fan mail

1883
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: bag call us with your questions and tweets and we'll

1884
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: see you then. Thanks for joining us. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: to see you tomorrow one