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They are an organization that 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:11.960 is campaigning a state by state to get I think 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.600 they're up to twenty three state legislatures right now to 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:22.560 approve a constitutional amendment that would allow for regulation of 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:27.520 the financing of campaigns. Essentially thanks to Citizens United and 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.880 thanks to the belief in our judiciary system that money 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:36.640 is speech that without a constitutional amendment, there really is 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:42.200 no law that will successfully sort of get through the 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:46.680 courts and pass muster in order to limit the influence 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.040 of money. I think the debate about the First Amendment 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.079 is I think we are having a debate about amplification 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.400 of your right to free speech. I think we all 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:56.800 agree everybody's a right to free speech. 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:57.520 The question is. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.920 Who's got the right to amplify who should have access 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:06.079 to amplification? How does that work? If you will, And 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.720 it's pretty simple. Well, we go through it quite a bit. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.880 As you know. I've one of if I have a 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:19.120 pattern of guests that I will that I will default to. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.040 It is those that are looking to improve the infrastructure 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.200 of the democracy. I've had a conversation about open primaries 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.360 and how do we get rid of partisan primaries. In 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.240 this case, I think there is agreement that we've gotten 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.200 sort of you know, we don't know how to do 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.160 anything anymore in moderation, right, we take a little thing 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.440 and we go to an extreme, right. I mean we 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.120 do this in society all the time. We should pay 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:50.240 players in college sports, yes, but the system we created 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:56.240 creates all sorts of essentially absurdities in the market. Should 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.360 sports betting be open to all fifty states instead of 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.040 the state of Nevada? I think we thought, okay, that's fair. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.760 How we've allowed this system to populate and sort of 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.839 consume the lives of some people is kind of out 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:17.200 of control, right, every we go from we have a 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.880 system that seems to only know how to regulate when 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:25.480 we let things go to excess, right, We don't seem 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.480 to know how to do it that way. So in 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.280 this case, I think we all know now money and 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.080 politics has gotten crazy. Just to give you a sense 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:38.560 of it. In twenty twelve, I had this idea at 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:45.559 NBC to audit the two presidential campaigns after the fact, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.600 Obama and Romney. And my thesis was, this was the 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:54.120 first time that both campaigns each spent a billion dollars. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.600 It's the first billion dollar campaign. Obama had a billion, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.440 Romney had kind of just under a billion, but if 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.760 you throw in all the outside money, it was Basically 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.359 it was the first time we had a billion. To 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:11.560 put that in perspective. In two thousand, both Al Gore 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:16.160 and George W. Bush were within state, within the system, 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:20.320 which meant it was publicly funded general election campaigns. Bush 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.760 did not take public funding during his primary campaign, but 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:27.400 he did during his general election campaign. Basically, it limited 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:32.000 both sides to sixty five million dollars, so we more 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.599 than ten x from the general election in twenty to 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:35.320 twenty twelve. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:36.560 Well where are we today? 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.159 In twenty twenty five, North Carolina is likely to be 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.719 the first billion dollar Senate race. So in twenty twelve 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.680 we had a billion. We had one campaign spending a 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.720 billion dollars, so it combined two billion dollars. And now 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.120 we're gonna have one singular US Senate race. They might 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.040 not even decide the balance of power in the United 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:59.440 States Senate. Okay, cost a billion dollars. So we have 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:06.640 gotten to absurd degrees of money. And I think everybody's 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.320 fine with small donors populating these things. You're not going 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.480 to see many people say that that's a bad idea. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:16.800 It's the large donations. It's the anonymity of the large donations, etc. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.080 It is the idea that an outside group can essentially 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.080 spend more than the two actual campaigns combined, and they 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.920 can decide what the agenda is, not the actual voter 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.719 powered campaign. So, you know, we have created a system 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.120 that is definitely in need of some sort of regulation. 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.599 Congress is actually tried, but the courts have said they're 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.920 all unconstitutional. So if that's the case, then there really 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.000 is only one answer on the on campaign finance, and 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.280 it is that is that's why if you believe in 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.520 term limits, well those have all been struck down as unconstitutional. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.839 It was a big movement in the nineties. A bunch 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.880 of states past term limits for members of Congress. None 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.159 of them pass constitutional muster because once you put in 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.440 age required, you know, it's sort of that was the 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:09.520 only there was. The only requirement was age in the constitution, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.960 and so they were not considered constitutional. If you want 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.120 term limits in, you're going to have to put a 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.160 constitutional amendment in. We have one constitutional amendment that has 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.960 to do with term limits. It's term limits for the presidency. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:27.280 So there are certain things where the judiciary decided to 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.640 overrule the legislative branch. And when it turns when it 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:37.080 comes to campaign finance laws, the judiciary has written the legislation. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.280 They are legislating from the bench. There is nobody that 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.680 passed a law wanting super PACs. There is nobody that 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.320 passed the law that wanted unlimited money in politics. Those 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:50.240 laws did not pass, they were interpreted after legal rulings. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:55.840 And so I think the case to put in to 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.440 put this in and it's interesting and you'll hear I 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.680 don't think this is you know, this gets you know, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.880 we get to the you know where each party on this. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:09.440 But there's an argument for both conservatives and progressives that 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.480 you want to you want to you want a fair fight, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.239 and the way we finance our campaigns makes it where 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.480 there is no such thing as a as a fair fight. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:22.120 So that's the conversation. I kind of think we're we're, uh, 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:26.240 we're on the cusp, as I've said before, where we're 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.160 going to get more and more interest in doing this 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.960 with our constitution. Can we get thirty eight states interested? 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.600 Can you get Congress to pass a law anyway? We 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.280 go through all the mechanics of this as well as 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.040 the larger idea with Jeff. I think it's for those 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.839 of you concerned about that issue, I think you will 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.120 enjoy that conversation. I'm also going to have my top 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.800 five list, and for those of you looking for a 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.600 holiday guide. In some ways, my Top five list will 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:58.839 serve a bit as a holiday guide buying guide for 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:03.800 the for the person who wants to feel extraordinarily well 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:08.920 informed about the zeitgeist of the world and of America. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.000 I hope my Top five list will do that for you. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.320 But before we begin, I want to pick up on 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.680 something that I did it, you know, which is, you know, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.439 we're in one of those moments where we're trying to 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.400 figure out does this latest outrage mean anything, And of 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:31.280 course the outrage being you know, Donald Trump's just horrendous 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.360 comments about Rob Reiner and his wife and the death 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.840 and the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. And 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.640 you know, in some ways it's not a new debate, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.320 right Donald Trump has put us in this position before. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.240 Donald Trump has embarrassed us collectively as a country, collectively, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.600 as a society, collectively as a human species. Right he 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:58.120 just this is what he does. And I know that 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.000 we've been at these moments before or where he says 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:05.600 something so outrageous, Well this, you know, nobody can survive this, well, 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.600 nobody other than Donald Trump. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:07.880 Right. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.120 He seems to be teflon don on just about everything, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.080 but the reaction on this one he has been fascinating 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.800 because it seemed as if it was a bridge too 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.560 far for a lot of people. And what he did, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:27.240 especially so soon after the Charlie Kirk assassination, so soon after, 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.840 so many on the right targeted anybody who said anything 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.640 remotely negative about Charlie Kirk, you know, in some cases, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.640 got him doxed, got him fired, cost them jobs, And 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.240 then all of a sudden, we have behavior modeled by 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.080 the President of the United States that if anybody else 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.440 behaved this way in the workplace, they'd be fired. Of course, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.760 he's done this multiple times, right, this is not the 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.719 first time he's done something that if any of us 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:57.000 did it, it would cost us our marriage, it would 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.360 cost us relationships, it would cost us our jobs, it 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.760 would cost us our cost us our you know, whatever, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.319 our whatever place we feel like we are in society, 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.640 you know, we might be shunned, we might be ostracized, 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.880 and frankly, in some of the behavior you know that 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:19.920 is that is it's sometimes the only the only thing 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.960 we have. You'd be shamed, right, We know that the 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:29.600 real superpower of Donald Trump is shamelessness. It's fascinating to 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.280 see on the heels of this story because I'll tell 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.280 you what, really what I couldn't shake with the with 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:42.000 the Reiner story with Trump. As appalling as the first 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:47.760 tweet was, it was the second it was the second 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:49.839 time he dealt with it when he when he sort 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:56.000 of reinforced the tweet on camera. Because I actually think 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.400 that this space signal a larger, more alarming issue that 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:05.160 if we take seriously people's concerns about Joe Biden and 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.000 his loan term, then we need to start taking seriously 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:14.360 about whether he's all there and how quickly you know 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.240 you're going to it's going to sound like I'm trolling him, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:22.120 but you know, at what point is his behavior twenty 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:29.560 fifth Amendment alarming type of behavior? Because think about it 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.920 this way, there's probably two things that may have happened 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.520 in between Donald Trump tweeting what he did on social 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:40.080 on his truth social platform and reiterating what he said 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:45.880 on camera about Rob Reiner. One would two things happened 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.840 or didn't happen, right, Either somebody said to him, perhaps 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.680 it was the chief of staff, Suzie Wiles. We're going 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.840 to get to her in a minute, but perhaps it 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.200 was said, hey, you know at the Reiner stuffs, they'd 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.679 be careful that didn't you know, I don't know what 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.000 you intended to say. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:02.960 It didn't play well. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:07.480 Why don't you you know, express just straight up condolences 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:14.120 and sort of, you know, move on, or nobody said anything. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:16.640 Either. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:25.120 Either potential outcome is alarming to me. Why is it 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.520 alarming because either he was told don't do it again, 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.560 and he did it anyway, and he is that sort 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:37.000 of stubborn that caught up in his own filter bubble, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:44.560 that delusional, right, or nobody has the guts to tell him, hey, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.319 this is not good. Don't do it, don't talk about it. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:47.880 Don't say it. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.240 That's so either way, you have to ask yourself, oh 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.840 my god, what's going on here? And for me, it 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.240 is a different Donald Trump, you know, I know. So 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.480 with Joe Biden, when you know, as folks started making 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.000 the case asking questions about whether Biden was the same Biden, 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:13.600 you would show Biden clips doing interviews in twenty fifteen, 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:18.080 twenty fourteen, even twenty sixteen, and you would see, my god, 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.000 that's not even the same Joe Biden as twenty nineteen. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.320 That's it was my impression. I spent a lot of 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.440 time at Joe Biden in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.680 before the pandemic, and I thought he had definitely slowed down. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.480 It was the same Joe Biden, but an older version, 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.840 and he definitely seemed to lack the same energy he 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.960 once had. He wasn't the glad hander. He was certainly 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:39.880 a talker, but he wasn't as fast as a. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:40.360 Talker, you know. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.000 There was definitely And then the difference between Joe Biden 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.600 circa twenty nineteen and circa twenty twenty three was even 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:49.320 more so. But the real contrast was between the Joe 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.200 Biden that I covered in the Obama era and the 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.560 Joe Biden that I was covering for the one term 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:56.400 of his presidency. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:57.440 It was a big difference. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.640 So in some way the questions were natural, Hey, he's 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:07.400 definitely getting older, you know, the younger Joe Biden would 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.800 be traveling the country. Why isn't older Joe Biden traveling? 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:11.760 And it was you know, they never wanted to say 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.480 it was because he can't, or because he gets tired, 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.920 or because they don't you know, it was always some 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.520 other excuse and things like that. It was definitely some 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.520 form of a you know, you can call it a 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:26.000 cover up, but it was definitely, you know, it was 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:30.320 definitely some form of rationalization for why there is they were. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.400 They were certainly concerned and sensitive to the age issue, 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.800 sensitive to the idea that he wasn't and they were 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.840 kind of always trying to push back on this idea 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.920 that he wasn't up to the child, up to the job, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.920 or as energetic as he once was. With Donald Trump, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.880 it's admittedly a little bit harder, right because you know, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.520 Donald Trump has had erratic behavior for years. Right, this 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:57.200 is not new his erratic behavior. And so as the 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.400 title of my substack goes, how will we know? Right, 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.400 we had a clear idea that something had changed about 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.600 Joe Biden because his speech text had changed. His energy 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.960 levels were clearly different. He was you know, more spry, 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.480 he was walking, he was younger, you know, all those things. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:19.720 There were physical changes that you couldn't ignore and the 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.400 public side, right some eight you know, that's why the 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.960 numbers were consistently in the seventies and eighties, you know, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:26.960 which is why I've just sort of, you know, the 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.800 false narrative that somehow the media was covering this up? 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.920 What is there to cover up? Media was the one 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.120 asking pole questions. Do I think there were some within 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.800 the White House Press score that could have been more aggressive? Absolutely? 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.120 But I kind of think, you know, we you know, 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.040 it's not like the media didn't show the footage. It's 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.720 not like the media didn't let you know he was 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.800 taking the short staircase. It's not like the med you know, 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.840 media didn't show you him shuffling around and tripping over sandbags, things. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:55.640 Like that with trumpets. Admittedly a little harder. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.440 Right, you know, when you see him behave erratically, you know, 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.880 but this was a moment with the Reiner thing where 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.239 ten years ago, you know, Donald Trump is no more 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.600 or less narcissistic today than he was ten years ago. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.159 But ten years ago he was still sensitive to what 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.280 the public thought of him, and he didn't quite live 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.880 in his own bubble is filtered bubble that is more 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.040 so today than he's ever had before. He's got surrounded 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.560 by yes people and sycophans, who don't want I don't 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.520 think want to present him with the with reality if 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.960 reality the only show him reality when reality looks good 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.320 for him. They don't show him reality when it paints 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.200 an ugly picture for him. And so he definitely seems 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.960 more detached from reality today than he did when he 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:48.359 first entered the political arena. But you know, the Donald 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.919 Trump of ten years ago, when a celebrity died, his 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:56.000 narcissism would put him, would sort of link him up. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.400 He would say, you know I was in his movies, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.800 or you know I was able. You know, he's most 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.920 and in this case with Michelle Reiner who took the photo, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.400 who was the photographer for the Art of the Deal 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.760 photo that Donald Trump posed for back in the eighties, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.879 you know, the old Donald Trump, the guy who was 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.520 you know, just as shameless, but in that sort of 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.359 I've got something to sell you shamelessness would have said, boy, 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.280 her career would have been nothing without me, Her career 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.960 wouldn't have happened without me. They in some ways that 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.119 would have been the normal. Oh boy, there he goes, putting, 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:34.960 making everything about himself, which he always does, but sort 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.320 of within his own weird semi positively, it would at 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.960 least try to say, hey, they were successful, but he 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:47.600 would try to take credit for their success. This time, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.160 he's in this really ugly place right where he just assumes, 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.679 you know, because by the way, imagine like, you know, 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.960 he because there's another alternative here that he said that 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.359 because he feared one of his supporters did this, which 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.400 in itself is such a warped version of thinking. Right, 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.200 can you imagine that he actually said it because that's 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:13.000 what he thought was going to be the case, That 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:17.439 in itself is troubling behavior. But you know, he's an 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.640 eighty year old man, and any of us with older 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.760 relatives have experienced the older relative with no filter or 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.399 with less filter who doesn't feel like they have to 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.600 round the edges of commentary anymore, that they can just well, 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.680 it doesn't matter, man, Grandpa's got to be grandpa, grandma's 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.160 got to be grandma, uncle's got to be uncle. Ann's 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:41.400 going to etcetera, etcetera. 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