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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome into the Tuesday Morning podcast. Dave

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Speaker 2: wanstat Dolphins, Bears, Steelers, a lot of good stuff to

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Speaker 2: talk about. Camps around the corner. So watching the US

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Speaker 2: Open this weekend, you know, watching a live golfer like

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Speaker 2: Brooks Koepka not have a great weekend, not terrible, but

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Speaker 2: not great. Seeing Rory McElroy, who pushed back on the

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Speaker 2: emergence of the live tour finishing second. I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about it driving home from work today and I read

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Speaker 2: a letter, a very heartfelt letter by former great Tom

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Speaker 2: Watson that he sent to Jay Monahan and the PGA,

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Speaker 2: asking a lot of questions, mostly do we have to

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Speaker 2: go in business with the Saudi's and how are they

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Speaker 2: going to change our sport. So one of the things

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Speaker 2: that's been very obvious to me about the PGA and

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Speaker 2: Live merger is how few American sports fans are truly

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Speaker 2: loyal to the PGA. I'll get to that in a second,

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Speaker 2: but getting back to Tom Watson's question, to give you

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Speaker 2: some sense of the money the Saudis and oil produce.

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Speaker 2: They produce nine point nine million million barrels of oil

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Speaker 2: a day, and despite that, they have over two hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty years in oil reserves. If they continue with

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Speaker 2: the same production, they have two hundred and twenty plus

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Speaker 2: years left of oil trillions and trillions of dollars in

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Speaker 2: their bank accounts, money not spent yet, So it is

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Speaker 2: a conveyor belt of trillions of dollars for the next

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Speaker 2: two hundred plus years. Yes, everybody's doing business, including our

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Speaker 2: government with the Saudis. This is not the last sport

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Speaker 2: they will attach to English Premier League RPGA tour. They've

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Speaker 2: been essential for the British golf tour for over a decade.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason that most fans aren't loyal to the

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Speaker 2: PGA because there's nothing to be loyal two right, The

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Speaker 2: Masters is run by the Masters, and the US Open

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Speaker 2: this weekend is run by the USGA. The British Open

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Speaker 2: is run by the Royal and Ancient Club, and the

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Speaker 2: PGA Championship is run by the PGA, which is not

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Speaker 2: the same as the PGA of America. What are you

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Speaker 2: loyal to? It's a series of charities. Think about it

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Speaker 2: this way if you're a Big ten football fan. But

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten sold off its parts and there was

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Speaker 2: four different corporations that ran the Big Ten. First there

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Speaker 2: was the Big Game Corporation. They would run Ess, Michigan

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Speaker 2: and Ohio State football. Then there was a second company

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Speaker 2: that ran Penn State Wisconsin in Iowa. There was a

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Speaker 2: third company that just ran Northwestern, the private school based

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Speaker 2: in Chicago. That's all they ran Northwestern football business. And

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Speaker 2: then a fourth corporation that ran the rest of the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten. You would care less if you were a

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Speaker 2: Buckeye fan about other schools. They were represented by other

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Speaker 2: businesses that had other rules and guidelines, and so there's

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Speaker 2: nothing to be loyal too. For most PGA fans, they're

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Speaker 2: loyal to Brooks Keepka or Tiger Woods, or Phil Mickelson

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Speaker 2: or in my case, Rory McElroy Dustin Johnson. That's who

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Speaker 2: I'm loyal to. Just like if the Big Ten splintered

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Speaker 2: off into four and five different subsidiaries, you'd be more

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Speaker 2: loyal just to your team and not care about the conference.

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Speaker 2: Now as it is now, when Big Ten teams play

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Speaker 2: in bowl games, Big Ten fans root for Big Ten

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Speaker 2: teams to win because it looks good for the entire

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Speaker 2: unified conference. What if the NFL sold off the AFC

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Speaker 2: championship to one group and the NFC Championship to another group.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking broadcast partners. They were owned separately and

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Speaker 2: run separately. The wild Card division was run in both

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Speaker 2: conferences by a separate company, and then the regular season

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Speaker 2: itself was run mostly by the NFL. You would be

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Speaker 2: less loyal to the NFL as it is now. If

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Speaker 2: somebody the Saudi's tried to buy the NFL, we'd all

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Speaker 2: be concerned. Will the network's change, will the times change?

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Speaker 2: Will they still play on Sunday? What are you taking away?

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Speaker 2: What are you adding? Because there's a unified business that

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Speaker 2: benefits all of us. So I don't see a lot

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Speaker 2: of people heckling Brooks Kepka because they're loyal to Brooks.

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Speaker 3: Kopka.

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Speaker 2: Golf has done a very poor job over the years

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Speaker 2: of having a unified business. It means something. It's simply

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Speaker 2: a charity that benefited the PGA, not even its members.

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Speaker 2: Phil Micholson for years complained about the treatment. So don't

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Speaker 2: be surprised if you sell off parts of your business

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Speaker 2: or you don't create. This is why McDonald's will sue you,

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Speaker 2: even if you're in a small town and create a

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Speaker 2: want to dilute in any way, shape or for their brand.

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Speaker 2: They want McDonald's to give you a sense of standards,

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Speaker 2: a sense of warmth, a sense of trust. And they'll

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Speaker 2: sue anybody that tries to add mock in front of

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Speaker 2: a business. That's why they do it, you know. I

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Speaker 2: was thinking about the Bradley Beal move to Phoenix and

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Speaker 2: of the many reasons I like it, let me start

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Speaker 2: I've had a radio business, TV business. I've done low

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Speaker 2: I've done syndicated. I'm very lucky I've worked with really

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Speaker 2: good people. One of the things I've just tried to avoid,

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Speaker 2: and it's my personality. I don't enjoy erratic people or

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Speaker 2: people you can't depend on. I've surrounded myself because I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of a boring, habit forming guy. There's not a

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Speaker 2: lot of ups and downs to my life. I come in,

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Speaker 2: same time, same prep, same breakfast, same show, go home.

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Speaker 2: I'm a creature of habit and I like to surround

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Speaker 2: myself with people who are creatures of habits. I want

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Speaker 2: to know what to expect every day when I go

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Speaker 2: to work. I think it's easier for all of us,

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Speaker 2: and so I've tried to avoid erratic hours, erratic people,

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Speaker 2: erratic bosses. It's to me, it's really helped my business.

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Speaker 2: It puts takes away the anxiety of the job. The

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Speaker 2: rare times I've had erratic people or businesses supporting me,

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Speaker 2: it's affected, I think my product. And so one of

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Speaker 2: the mistakes I thought Kevin Durant made by losing Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry leaving an going to Kyrie Irving, he went from

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Speaker 2: dependability to erratic. And then they added James harden In

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Speaker 2: I think that weighs on Kevin Durant, and he never

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Speaker 2: understood how much that eats away at you day after day,

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Speaker 2: answering questions for other players, not being able to depend

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Speaker 2: on Kyrie Irving showing up because of the vaccine. It

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Speaker 2: was the weight of the world on Kevin Durant's shoulders.

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Speaker 2: Now look who he plays with. Devin Booker and Bradley

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Speaker 2: Beal are the most boring, predictable stars in the league.

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Speaker 2: know exactly what you're getting every night. Just think of that.

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Speaker 2: For Kevin Durant, he played with the three most erratic

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Speaker 2: personalities in the league Harden, Kyrie Irving Ben Simmons to

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Speaker 2: The weight of the world is taking off his shoulders.

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Speaker 2: How many of you are in a relationship and you're

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Speaker 3: It's toxic.

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Speaker 2: It affects your sleep, it affects your diet, it affects

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Speaker 2: I think this is such a win for Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 2: Forget the basketball. Just from an anxiety level and a

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Speaker 2: comfort level, Phoenix is just perfect. No big egos, no

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Speaker 2: It's just I feel the pressure come off my shoulders,

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Speaker 3: You know what got me.

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Speaker 4: We're in the car and we had a driver, and

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Speaker 4: we're driving the streets of Roam and you know how

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Speaker 3: Now I live in Chicago, okay, And I said that.

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Speaker 4: And we're going through these streets and people are cutting

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Speaker 4: I said, you haven't.

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Speaker 3: Beeped your horn one time. I said, in Chicago, you

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Speaker 3: their horns twenty four to seven, scream at people. I said.

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Speaker 4: He said, well, you know they'll get out of the way.

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Speaker 4: We're in no hurry. So it's exactly what you said.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 4: We drove through the heart of Rome, people over the place,

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Speaker 3: And I didn't hear horn beat.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the sirens all night long and my condo

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Speaker 2: So big year for Chicago. I think justin Fields after

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Speaker 4: And it's not talked about, but I think that, yes,

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Speaker 3: That's fair?

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Speaker 4: And you know what, when I was up there, Dj

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Speaker 4: When I saw Robert Tunyan, they've flexed him out like

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Speaker 4: I think they feel real good about their passing game,

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Speaker 3: He worked for me a bit. I got a great four.

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Speaker 4: We got to be balanced. We gotta be balanced in

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Speaker 2: I've said this before, my favorite city in the country

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Speaker 2: I I mean, the winters are tough, but I've been spring, summer,

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Speaker 4: No, it's pretty tough. Today it was supposed to be

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Speaker 3: And it's, uh, this is the time to be here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the time to be here right now.

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Speaker 3: I it's been tough. It's been tough with.

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Speaker 3: And we got the the race coming up next week.

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Speaker 3: That's all they've been talking about.

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Speaker 2: What's the typical Chicago Bear fan reasonable not liquored up.

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Speaker 2: If you said, would they be disappointed with nine and

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Speaker 3: Yes they probably would. But I think it's seven eight

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Speaker 4: I think they're a seven eight win team with Justin

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Speaker 4: Field showing improvement. I'm concerned about the Bears defense. I'm

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Speaker 3: I never heard of that. They got the most sacks

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Speaker 4: They got three free agents on the defensive line. They

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Speaker 4: The guy they drafted in the third round out of Miami. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I was talking to head coach Matt Eberfluss, and they

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Speaker 3: So the guy that really important is that nickelback.

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Speaker 4: He's the most important guy in their defense, and that's

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Speaker 4: Don't worry about anything else. We got Jalen Johnson on

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Speaker 3: This guy from Miami, he's gonna be a big time player.

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Speaker 4: That was a great pick for them, and it's going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like them. I love them.

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Speaker 4: In the opener, you know they opened up with the Packers.

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Speaker 3: But my guy for defensive player of the year in

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Speaker 4: For the last three years was Jack Campbell, and they

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Speaker 4: He graduated like six years ago. I mean, the guys

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Speaker 4: They get him in a third round. This guy's gonna

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Speaker 4: Taught the sagment about him. I think Detroit did really

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Speaker 2: pass rush. And Detroit's offensive line is really it may

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Speaker 2: be the best Lions O line they've ever had. So yep,

434
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: Jared Goff is going to throw from a clean pocket,

435
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: and I think that's the one thing they have. You know,

436
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: sometimes Dave as you know, it's matchups in your conference,

437
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: there's no pass rushes and so Detroit didn't have much

438
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: of one either. So their old line in Detroit is

439
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: top four, maybe top three in the league. So it

440
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: tells you they're going to generate a run game. And

441
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, when Jared Goff has time to throw, he's great.

442
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: That's been the issue. He's like Matt Ryan in his prime.

443
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: When Matt had time to throw, he to eat alive.

444
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: So when golf was on the run in LA he

445
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: struggled when Whitworth was in his prime and younger. He

446
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: got him to a Super Bowl.

447
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely no question.

448
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 4: And the guy they they get this quarterback from Tennessee,

449
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: Herndon Hooker.

450
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Speaker 3: I talk to some of these quarterback guys that are

451
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: on this thirty thirteen. They liked him. I'm not going

452
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: to say who. There's some guys that liked.

453
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: Him as well as any quarterback in the draft. They

454
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 4: think this guy is special. So add him to the

455
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: draft picks that Detroit got, They're going to be pretty salty.

456
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Speaker 2: I think, you know every time every year I make picks,

457
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: and my woe pick of this year in the NFL,

458
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: the surprise pick is I'm taking Miami to win the

459
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: division first. I think Vic Fangio right now is maybe

460
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: the best defensive coordinator in the sport. They solved by

461
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: bringing Jalen Ramsey over. They solved the corner issue. I

462
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: don't love their offensive line, but if you look at

463
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel's system, it's Kyle Shanahan system. It has always

464
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Speaker 2: been better day for quarterbacks in the second year of it.

465
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Speaker 2: It's pretty complex. I look at what Miami put together.

466
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: I watched them play the Bills three times last year.

467
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: They beat him once, they could have beaten them a

468
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: second time with Tua and Skyler, Thompson played him close,

469
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: and my takeaway was, I don't feel right now that

470
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: Buffalo has had a good last five or six months.

471
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Speaker 2: Stefon Diggs's complaining they lost one of their safeties. I

472
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: have questions about McDermott, his rigidity. Leslie Fraser just said

473
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: get me out of here because McDermott wouldn't let him

474
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: call plays. There's a little bit of coaching tension. I

475
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: if Tua's upright, I saw you put on about fifteen pounds.

476
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: You tell me your thoughts. I think Mike McDaniel in

477
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: year two of that offense. I've watched Shanahan in Atlanta,

478
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: I watched them in San Francisco. It's that second year, Dave.

479
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: I think Miami's going to be a handful.

480
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you.

481
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Speaker 4: I mean, we'll start with add and Ramsey, but the

482
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Speaker 4: best addition they had is Vic Fanjoe. You know now,

483
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: in Vic's defense, and I know pretty good, Vic's defense

484
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: is not a blitzing defense. I mean, you know when

485
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: they were there with with Brian Flores, it was pressure, pressure, pressure.

486
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 4: This is not that so having the extra corner, you know,

487
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 4: having Ramsey teamed up with Howard, I mean, that's a great,

488
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: great combination.

489
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Speaker 1: Uh.

490
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Speaker 4: But they're gonna have to generate rush up front. To me,

491
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: Bradley Chubb is the guy. He's this guy's got to

492
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 4: show up.

493
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Speaker 3: You know.

494
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Speaker 4: Last year they made the big trade for him. They

495
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 4: got him there, and I think Vick will be the

496
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 4: guy that'll be able to push the right buttons to

497
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: get a big year out of him. But they've got

498
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: to generate. They're gonna generate pass rush with the guys

499
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Speaker 4: up front. That's one point. The other thing that I

500
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Speaker 4: think has to happen is, you know, Mike McDaniels, you

501
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: mentioned the Buffalo games calling. It really bothered me. They

502
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 4: had Skyler Thompson, who you get, the thirteen quarterback in there,

503
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: and they threw the ball twice as many times as

504
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Speaker 4: they ran it.

505
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Speaker 3: And I'm watching that game.

506
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: And I remember when I got the Bears job, you know,

507
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: and I was out and the lake.

508
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: Chuck noll And just.

509
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 4: Stepped down from the Steelers and we were playing golf

510
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: and he said, Dave, never forget.

511
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: Why you you get your head coach. Now, never forget

512
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: why you're a head coach. I said, what do you mean?

513
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: He says, when you got hired because of your defensive expertise.

514
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: So I'm watching that Dolphin Buffalo game.

515
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking to myself, Mike McDaniels was the run

516
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: coordinator run coordinator at San Francisco, and they aren't running

517
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: the ball.

518
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: If they run the football, I'm convinced they were. So

519
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: the only question I have is, you know, they're gonna

520
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: have to be balanced.

521
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: And when you got Tua and you got the firepower,

522
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: you know, Tyreek care and all the Wattle and everybody,

523
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: it's real tempting to want to get them the ball.

524
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Speaker 3: Big plays, big pellies.

525
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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what this is good Mike mc

526
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: if he wants to win Big, he's going to have

527
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: to be balanced, and he's going to have to continue

528
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Speaker 4: running the football.

529
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Speaker 3: I don't he's going to show me that he'll do that.

530
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Speaker 3: I'm not convinced he wants to do it. Well.

531
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Speaker 2: It's interesting Kyle Shanahan has Debo and George Kittle and

532
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk and Christian McCaffrey, and he commits to the

533
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: run despite how having those options. I mean, when I

534
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: think of the Niners. I think of a physical run game, yep.

535
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Speaker 2: I don't even think of passing no.

536
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Speaker 4: And you know the other thing too with the Tua.

537
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: You mentioned Tua, and I'm not gonna blitz him. I'm

538
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: not going to take a chance of trying to cover

539
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: Tyra kill one on one. But I'll tell you what's

540
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: going to happen. Tua in his mind, if you went

541
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: through the concussion stuff that he went through or anybody did,

542
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: that's going to be on your mind. And they're going

543
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: to be saying, get the ball out quick, right, don't

544
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: take eight chances.

545
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: They don't run up.

546
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: He's not running quarterback read stuff. So put that aside.

547
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: That's not going to happen. But get the ball out quick.

548
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: He's going to see man press coverage. I would play

549
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 4: him man and I would lock up those receivers and

550
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: knowing that the ball is going to come out quick,

551
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: and so he's gonna you know, he makes good decisions,

552
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 4: makes good decisions.

553
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: We're going to find out how accurate he is.

554
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to be real accurate this year because

555
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to get very many wide

556
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: open easy throws.

557
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing with tua is because his injuries

558
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: are concussion based that you can't bring him back with

559
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: another concussion for four to six weeks. So to your point,

560
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: I think McDaniel realizes that they'll run it more and

561
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: it'll be a lot of a lot of what Brady ran.

562
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: Just get the ball out, Garoppolo by the way, one

563
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: thousand and one, one thousand and two. Let it ripe.

564
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: And I also think McDaniels knows his weakness is his

565
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: offensive front in a division with Buffalo's pass rush, the

566
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: Jets pass rush, and Belichick's defensive front. So I do

567
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: think there's a way Miami will play run it quick,

568
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: passing protect to it because he goes down. You know,

569
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: they brought Mike White for the Jets for a reason.

570
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so in near minds, they probably got a good backup,

571
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: but it's not to us. So it'll be interesting to

572
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: see if mcdaiels can do that.

573
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: So you're from Pittsburgh, coached the Panthers for years, You've

574
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: got a lot of friends there. Still I went and

575
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: the other day I went and sort of burrowed down

576
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: on the Steelers. There's a couple of things that are interesting.

577
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: Number one is they win over the last three years

578
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: when TJ. Watt plays, they win seventy five percent of

579
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: their games. And although he was banged up last year,

580
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: in his history, he doesn't get hurt. And one of

581
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: the reasons I leaned Steelers over Baltimore for the wildcard

582
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: spot is if you take their eight best players, and

583
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: I include Najie Harris, their tight end, Kenny Pickett, Minka Fitzpatrick,

584
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: I go Cam Hayward, I go down the line. None

585
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: of them have an injury history, and virtually all of

586
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: the Ravens' best players except tyden Mark Andrews, do have

587
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: a playoff history. And I don't know if Tomlin is

588
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: more measured at practice, but the Ravens have been banged

589
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: up for four years in a row and the Steelers

590
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: are rarely hurt. And I went back and I looked

591
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: at Pittsburgh's last six games last year. I didn't from

592
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: beginning to end watch all of them, Dave, because the

593
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: AFC has so many more compelling teams. At the end

594
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: of last year, Kenny Pickett was pretty good, the defense

595
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: was great. Kenny Pickett was pretty good. What are you hearing?

596
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: Well? I know this for a fact.

597
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: Last year at this time going into training camp, he

598
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: was getting the third team more reps. I mean it

599
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: was Mitch Trubisky, it was Mason Rudolph, and it was

600
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett. So his practice time was a third And

601
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think I think they went into

602
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: that thing. Mike Tomlin said that Mitch Trubisky is a starter,

603
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: which he did. And so I look at that and say,

604
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: you know, that's a lot of time for a rookie

605
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: not to be getting the reps that he needs. And

606
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 4: then the guy that's probably gonna be his top receiver,

607
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: and then what's his name got hurt.

608
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson was hurt.

609
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: Okay Pickens, George Pickens, the second round pick out of Tennessee.

610
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: He's a star. This guy.

611
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: He it took him, they tell me, it took him

612
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: two or three, you know, a couple of weeks into

613
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 4: the season before he started getting a field for the thing.

614
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 4: I mean, they were hoping that Claypool, they were hoping

615
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: to Chase Claypool was the guy. You got to remember,

616
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: Chase Claypool went from their number one receiver to two

617
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 4: to three.

618
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: And so all of a.

619
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Speaker 4: Sudden, now, all of a sudden, you're seeing Pickens getting

620
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: more reps and Deontay Johnson they're getting him boo and

621
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Speaker 4: then they find out how good Friar move. You mentioned

622
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: him the tight end from Pat stake Ye. This kid

623
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: is a player. He's got final phenomenal him. It wasn't

624
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: until about that halfway through the season where Pickings getting

625
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: enough reps, Pickings just picking up the offense, and now

626
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: they're realizing, hey, we got a tight end too. So

627
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 4: I think I like Pittsburgh. I mean their offense, they're stars.

628
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: The guys we're talking about are all like twenty five

629
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: years or younger, right, I mean the arrow is definitely

630
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: up for that offense.

631
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's did you like, can he pick

632
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: it out of college? I've always said he feels very

633
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: B plus at everything. He's got a good enough arm,

634
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: good enough size, good enough mobility. Don't I don't see

635
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: a lot of special But I don't see a lot

636
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: of dave. I don't see any holes.

637
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 4: I don't.

638
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't see anything that he can move left, he

639
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: throws right, he's mobile, he can take a hit. My

640
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: takeaway is, you know, there's a little bit of a CJ.

641
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: Stroud where I'm like, he looks good enough at everything,

642
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: maybe great at nothing. What did you hear from your

643
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: pit people about Kenny coming out?

644
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: I was back there at pit when they were practicing,

645
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 4: and and sitting in there and talking to paton Ardousey,

646
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: the head coach, and the offensive court and all the

647
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: intangible things that you mentioned.

648
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 3: And then put a layer of toughness.

649
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: This guy is a street tough kid, and this kid

650
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 4: is a competitor. And I think that you know you

651
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: talked about he's got good enough arm strength, he understands

652
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: the game, he gets the big picture, on and on

653
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: and on.

654
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: But now you put in.

655
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: That toughness and those those intangible things, they're real, they

656
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: are real. And uh, you know they share the facility

657
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: back your pit and the Steelers share facilities, so they're

658
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: in the same building where they're eating, and they're on

659
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: the practice field ones leaving the other ones. No one

660
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 4: had better exposure to Kenny Pickett for his whole career

661
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: than Mike Tomlin and the Steelers and Kevin Colbert at

662
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: that time in the whole Steeler organization. So they they

663
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: know what they're getting there, and I know they are excited.

664
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting for a year I was told

665
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: that the Steelers didn't love drafting pit kids because they

666
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: didn't feel they felt that they would be too loyal

667
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: to them, and they were a little concerned that they

668
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: had such access invisibility that they would tend to overdraft

669
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: pit players. So they were always very reluctant. That's that's

670
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: what I was told that. If you go look at

671
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: their history, they were they had taken some pit players,

672
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: but they were concerned that they would tend to Yeah,

673
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: it's overrate them.

674
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: It well, it wasn't as much that. And I was

675
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: told this by coach Noel.

676
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: He said they were always reluctant because we were talking

677
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: about when Tony dor Sat came out, there was rumors

678
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: he was going to go, but there was always rumors,

679
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: not Tony in this situation.

680
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 3: But if they drafted a pit.

681
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: Kid and it didn't work out, they didn't want to

682
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: have to cut them in their home time. You know,

683
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: mister Rooney Arn't Rooney who you know the runs the

684
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: team right now and owns it. He was behind me

685
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: a year at pitt He's a pit graft. So those

686
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: time would fit. And the Steelers is a lot deeper

687
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: than just having a professional team. In the same city.

688
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: I mean there are some deep roots between the Rooneys

689
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: and the University of Pittsburgh.

690
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

691
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: Well, the Rooneys are wonderful people. They've got charities everywhere.

692
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: So you do the Big Ten as well, and listen

693
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: Texas Oklahoma joining the SEC. I think that's a handful

694
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: as we go to a twelve team playoff, though, I

695
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: think the SEC will probably get four teams in. I

696
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: feel the same way about the Big Ten. You're not

697
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: going to keep USC, Michigan, Ohio State out of a

698
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: twelve team tournament. If they're all winning ten eleven games,

699
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: you're going to get them in. Yeah, we know this

700
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: about the college basketball tournament. These networks have a little say.

701
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: They want their big brands in, right, not Boise State.

702
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: What is your takeaway? Though Lincoln Riley has put together

703
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: a hell of a recruiting class this year. They've really

704
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: got it. I haven't seen this out here since this

705
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: past weekend since Pete Carroll is there, in your opinion,

706
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: a different style play though the UCLA and USC will

707
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: face in the Big Ten? Is it different there?

708
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely. When you took it, you look at the.

709
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: Top defenses, you know, and I think a lot has

710
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 4: to do. They talked about the weather, but I think

711
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 4: there's some validity to that. I mean, it's gonna start

712
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 4: snowing here in November, you know. I mean, you're gonna

713
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: play in snow the month of December here, So you know,

714
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: UCLA and USC are gonna have to deal with that

715
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: on a yearly basis.

716
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 3: And you know, not that they can't.

717
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: You know, not that they can't or they won't, but

718
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: it is a factor, and I think the biggest thing.

719
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: And I'm doing Big Ten again, I.

720
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 4: Just you know, for I'm going to do it for

721
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 4: a couple more years now coming up.

722
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: So I was just down there.

723
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: I did some draft They did draft shows this year,

724
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 4: which they haven't done in a while, and so talking

725
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 4: to those people, the biggest hurdle that they're struggling with

726
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: right now is timing of the games and scheduling. And

727
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 4: you have to remember, everybody just wants to talk football,

728
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 4: but when you talk Big Ten conference, adding USEY and USC,

729
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: you're talking about all sports, men's and women's. And that's

730
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 4: the biggest heart of I know the Big Ten is

731
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: talking about because they talked to me about having like

732
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: two game day shows in the studio.

733
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: It was always one.

734
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: In the morning and then they were done at you know,

735
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: seven o'clock, nine o'clock at night. Now these games West

736
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 4: Coast here, they're going to have to be on the

737
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: air probably until twelve one o'clock in the morning, and

738
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: they haven't finalized it yet. You know, the Big Ten

739
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 4: got a brand new commissioner, Tony Petito. Tony Petiti, I'm sorry,

740
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: took over and I got to know Tony because he

741
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: was one of the guys that got me. I'm part

742
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: of the thirty thirteen, which is an NFL website that

743
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 4: does a lot of NFL stuff, and Tony was one

744
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 4: of the guys put it together with Bill Parcells. So Tony,

745
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: that's his biggest one of his biggest challenges right now,

746
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: is this whole scheduling thing.

747
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 3: How's it going to work out?

748
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: I wonder if you can't put a small satellite Big

749
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: ten office out west so they'll be up at eight

750
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: thirty to nine thirty out west. You put a couple

751
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: of guys out West, guys on Saturday night. I mean,

752
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: let's be honest, so many of the games it's good

753
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: for recruiting. I mean, listen, if I was Michigan, Ohio State, Purdue.

754
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: I would recruit the hell out of California. I mean,

755
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: it just opened up a gateway out here, did not?

756
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wouldn't you if.

757
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: You were, if you were coaching at Michigan State tomorrow,

758
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't you want to get six to eight players from

759
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: California annually? Would you send a rec would you actually

760
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: have one of your assistant live out here? What would

761
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: you do?

762
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: I'm not live out there, but I would definitely recruit it.

763
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: I mean, now, you know, I don't know if you're

764
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 4: if the lower tier schools are going to be able

765
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 4: to do much.

766
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: Would I wouldn't waste time or money on that.

767
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 4: End, but definitely the schools you mentioned, the Penn States

768
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: and the Ohio States and Michigan's, uh, you know, Wisconsin.

769
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if they want to.

770
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: Do that, I think they could go out there. And

771
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 4: with every game being on TV and a Big ten network,

772
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: it's not an issue of a young player nowadays with

773
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 4: his parents and his relatives and his high school coaches

774
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 4: and his friends not having an opportunity to see him play.

775
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: That's not the case.

776
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 2: All right, coach, Good talking to you again. Great seeing you.

777
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: Call me when you comment on

778
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Speaker 1: The volume