1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today's guest is the brilliantly talented 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Adelaide Kine. 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Now. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: Adelaide has been acting since six years old, and she 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: has played so many characters in mega fan favorite projects 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: over the course of her career. You may recognize her 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: from MTV's teen Wolf or the hit CW show Rain, 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: or maybe from one of my all time favorite shows, 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: ABC's Once Upon a Time that admittedly, yeah, I have 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: watched let's just say a lot. But now she is 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: in head to toe Scrubs, playing Doctor Jules in one 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: of the most iconic television shows in the history of television, 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: and that show is Grey's Anatomy. Gray's Anatomy is going 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: on to its twentieth season, premiering on March fourteenth on ABC, 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: and Adelaide joined the series in season nineteen as one 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: of the first year surgical residents. She was part of 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: that intern class. Today we talk all things gras Anatomy, 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: We revisit some of those fan favorite projects that she 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: has started, and we learn more on a deeper level 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: about someone who has been behind the lights and behind 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: the cameras for almost well all of her life. So 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: let's see if today we can get Adelaide to say 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: something that she's never said before. Adalide, how are you 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: doing today, my friend? 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: I'm so good. How are you doing? 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I am fantastic. I'm so happy to finally connect with you. 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I, during the pandemic, had 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: this Instagram live series that I launched just trying to 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: bring people together and bringing their favorite artists in these 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: really intimate conversations from their living room and houses, and 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: that's what turned into this show. And you have been 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: someone since then, since twenty twenty that people have been 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: writing in hoping for a fun episode with. So I'm 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 1: glad we can make it happen. 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That's so cool, and congratulations, like 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: you're doing this whole thing and it's so inspiring. 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Good you, Oh, thank you, thank you so much. But 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: it's not about me. It is about you, And oh 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: where do I begin? I mean, I guess, first of all, 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: you are I don't need to tell you such an 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: accomplished actress. You have played so many different roles, from 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: a werewolf to a historical figure Queen Mary of Scott's 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: to a doctor currently to a wicked stepsister and once 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: upon a time. I mean, is there anything you can't play? 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: That sounds like a lot of things, but I haven't. 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: I haven't played someone in the military yet. I haven't 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: played an acrobat yet. That's definitely something I don't think 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: I could do because my back is a boy he 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 2: used to be. I don't know. It's it's always fun 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: taking on sort of like different roles in different types 52 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: of people. It's part of what I love about my 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: job is I get to be someone other than myself. 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: And I played the same character over and over again. 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: I think I get a bit bored. But I've been 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: very lucky and how my career is shaped down well. 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: And you're currently, as I mentioned, playing a doctor. You 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: are going into season twenty of Grey's Anatomy. You joined 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: in nineteen. This is your second season on the show. 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean it's such an iconic, such 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: a legacy show. Were you freaking out when you got 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: this job? 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, absolutely. Like my my cousins grew up 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: watching Grayce they've been watching since season one. It's like 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: a part of their life. And I was a little 66 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: too young. I wasn't allowed to watch it. It was 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: like a little too grown up for me. But Grays 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: is is such it's like it's part of the fabric 69 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: of pop culture. Initially, I was just so excited. I 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: was like, Yes, I have a job and it's on 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: Gray's and I get to work in Los Angeles and 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: I get to work with all these incredible people. And 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: then I was nervous because the fans of Grays are 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: really passionate about the show. It means so much to them, 75 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: and that's, you know, that's like a lot of responsibility 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: to take on. You really won't do your best for them, 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: and you know you want them to like you because 78 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: you're so excited to be there, and they've been very 79 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: kind and very welcoming to all of us that joined 80 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: in season nineteen, and it's been a really wonderful experience. 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: So you couldn't watch the series growing up. Did you 82 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: go back at all and binge any of it or 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: try to. 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: Catch up must I certainly did you. 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Did, because there's so many seasons, So how do you 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: even tackle that when you get this job one episode. 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: At a time. I was familiar with the first, you know, 88 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: sort of five six seasons. I like Medical dramas like 89 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: I loved House and Scrubs and you know anything, the 90 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: sense of humor when I was growing up. When I 91 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: got older, so I was already familiar with Grace, but 92 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: I hadn't watched in a few years. So when I 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: got the audition, I sat down and I started binge 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: watching the show as almost like a kind of manifestation, 95 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: and also to get an idea of like the tone 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: and the pace, and different shows have characters speaking at 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: different pacing, and it's important to sort of see what 98 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: you have to do in the show, whether you have 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: to be very physically active in your body, or whether 100 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: you speak quickly, or whether there's a lot of space 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: for pauses. So I did that and I sent my 102 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: tape off and then I was in London to do 103 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: like my visa appointment because I'm on a visa because 104 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm Australian, I have to leave the country. And my 105 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: partner at the time had COVID and so they were 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: up in the hotel room. I was running them food 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: and I got my callback request and you know, I 108 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: had to tape it in the hotel room make sure 109 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: I didn't get COVID. And then while I was waiting 110 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: to hear I was just sitting in. 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: The lobby of this hotel with my sick girlfriend upstairs, 112 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: just binge watching Grays as like part of manifestation because 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: I wanted the job so much. 114 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: And then when we finally got home, I got the 115 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: news like a day or two after I landed, and 116 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: then I was straight into fittings a couple of days 117 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: later and on set a few weeks after that. It 118 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 2: was really a crazy time. It feels like it happened 119 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: so quickly and it was so much going on. 120 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I can only imagine that your first day 121 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: on that set, after knowing so much about the show, 122 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: after having your best friends watching the show, after you've 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: been watching the show, and then you're suddenly in this 124 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: medical universe yourself. I mean, was that kind of outer 125 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: body for you? 126 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: It was very much, especially since I haven't walked on 127 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: a project that shoots in Los Angeles since teen Wolf, 128 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: so most of the projects I've done have shot in Canada, 129 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: North Carolina, not in Los Angeles, so it was it 130 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: was very surreal to just getting my car and then 131 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: drive to a studio here in Los Angeles. And when 132 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: I was younger and I dreamed of being an actor 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: and being in Los Angeles, you know, I dreamed of 134 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: being on a lot in LA and to you know, 135 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: to go to a lot every day and have like 136 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: a little parking space with my name, and I hadn't 137 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: had that before Grace. It was very surreal. And then 138 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: stepping on a new set is always so interesting because 139 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: half the walls are missing in every room and the 140 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: ceiling is full of a lighting rig. It's always very odd. 141 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: But I will say I think the coolest and weirdest 142 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: thing that I had to adjust to that's going to 143 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: sound odd, is the costuming. I'm very used to wearing 144 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: like jeans and like tight tops or corsets and ball 145 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: gowns or high heels and miniskirts. So to go into 146 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: work every day and wear a sports brass, speakers and scrubs, 147 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: it was almost more difficult to adjust to being in 148 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: comfortable clothing for work than anything else. I'm was so 149 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: used to having whatever discomfort is part of my wardrobe 150 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: be a part of my character and inform my character. 151 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: That being comfortable and playing such a high stress character 152 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: was like very discombobulated. And then of course we get 153 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: to set and there's Alan Bombayo, and there's Daughter Wilson, 154 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: and there's Kevin McKidd who I loved from Rome before 155 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: I joined the show. It was just it was insane 156 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: and so cool. And I'm very, very grateful for the 157 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: other interns that joined the show at the same time 158 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: as me, Harry, Niko, Alexis, and Madori, because they are 159 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: such wonderful, good hearted people. All five of us like 160 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: bonded very quickly, and I'll give credit to Madori, who 161 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: you know, organized like an intern dinner for us, like 162 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: ride out the Gates so we could get to know 163 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: each other. And since we sort of worked together the 164 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: most and we all joined together, it was it was 165 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: so wonderful to have them. There's like an automatic support 166 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: network and then the best I'm staying at Alexis's house 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: right now, well while my bathrooms are being destroyed. I 168 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: could watch lyrical about Grace all day because the more 169 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: senior casts have been incredibly welcoming and kind to us 170 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 2: as well and have given us to full advice, and 171 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: Chandre in particular has made ourself very available if we 172 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 2: have any stresses or any worries, and I couldn't else 173 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: for better I've been working for a very long time. 174 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: I knew it would be a comfortable set to be 175 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: on because the show has been going for a very 176 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: long time, and there's an ease that comes with that. 177 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: But it's true, I've truly been blown away by how 178 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: welcoming and kind and communicative everyone has been, from production 179 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: to cost. They take very good care of us. I'm 180 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: incredibly grateful. 181 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: It's so obvious to me that you are incredibly grateful, 182 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: and it's such a special job for you. And there's 183 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things I want to dive into 184 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: that you talked about. One, your character and wearing the scrubs, 185 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: and how that's something you had to get accustomed to. 186 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: I find that when a show's been on for a 187 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: long time and new characters are introduced, it's not always seamless. 188 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: It's not always a win. But this show did it brilliantly. 189 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: And your character people really really have gotten attached to 190 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: and are super excited to have in the show. Of course, 191 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: that's the character of Jew. So for you, what has 192 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: been the best part of playing this role and diving 193 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: into her? What do you love about this character? 194 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 2: She's a very complicated young woman, I really like how 195 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: messy she is. I think when we when I first 196 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: came into the show, I was like, also have some 197 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: things in common, but I don't think we have that 198 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: much in common. Like, you know, she was raised very 199 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: hippie dippy, that her parents were a little bit neglectful, 200 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: and you know, she's very into sort of like crystals 201 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: and taro and stuff. And I think initially I was like, well, 202 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm not like that at all. You know, my mother 203 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: was very involved in my life and still is, like 204 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm very close with my family, And then I was like, 205 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: oh no, I have crystals at home. I like astrology too, 206 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: also a lot like Jewel's very pragmatic and very like 207 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 2: I have my calendar and my lists, and very sensible. 208 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: And her armor that she has out about like love 209 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: and romance, I absolutely recognize that. And then a younger 210 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: version of myself, I was very resistant to falling in 211 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: love or being soft vulnerability because that felt like weakness. 212 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: I only felt comfortable being vulnerable with my friends and romantically. 213 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: It was very difficult for me to you know, be 214 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: tender and be vulnerable. And I've outgrown that, and I 215 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: look forward to Jewels out growing that I think the 216 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: most interesting part of the job for me. My mother 217 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: is a nurse. She's a nurse educator. She has spent 218 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: decades working in hospitals and now she teaches. And I've 219 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: always been fascinated by sort of like medical dramas. And 220 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: the most fun thing for me to do on set 221 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: one is whenever I have scenes with all the rest 222 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: of the interns, because it's chaos. It's like, it's like 223 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: hurting cats. I think that's why they don't give us 224 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: too many of those scenes, because we're just, you know, 225 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: chatting and joking and we have such a good time. 226 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: But I love all of the medical stuff. I love 227 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: the operating and and you know, the surgery and stitching, 228 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: teuting and all of it. I love all of that stuff. 229 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit too much. It's a little creepy. 230 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 2: My first episode, they had me with my hand inside 231 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: like a fake human chest and they had rigged up 232 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: a real cow heart to beat, and they'd put blood 233 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: clots in it so I could like humatolas, so I 234 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: could feel the heumotomas. And it's incredible. I got to 235 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: cut off a leg and the prosthetic leg that they 236 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: had made, and it was partially cut, and you know 237 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: they'd painted, and they build these from nothing and they're 238 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: so realistic that I walked onto set to have a 239 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: look at it and I had a bit of a 240 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance moment where I had noticed I was trying 241 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: to smell for blood because it looked so real, and 242 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm my brain thinks it's real. And 243 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: I had to go and touch it and like smell 244 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: the plastic and smell the like alcohol based paints, and 245 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: like poke at it and feel the texture before my 246 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: brain went, oh, no, it's not real. It's real. It's 247 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: not real. But I love all of that stuff and 248 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm very crafty, a crochet and I knit. I brought 249 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: us with the sutureen comes quite naturally, like anything with tools, 250 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: anything with like bits and kits, So that's always really 251 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: fun for me. We had it and I had an 252 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: episode with Madori recently. We were dealing with you know 253 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: those doctor Pimple Popper videos. 254 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I do. Don't tell me you. 255 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: Like those sometimes I do. We had an incident like 256 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: that and it was the most fun I've had on 257 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: set this season. Specifically, we had an incident involving pass 258 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: and it was hysterical, and Midori was like, who, and 259 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: I it's so entertaining. It's so much fun. You can 260 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: much fun because it's not real. I mean in real life, 261 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these things come with smells. 262 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm very sense sensitive. I can't handle like I'm OCD 263 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: about my house and I have two cats. So the 264 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: whole up I have with the litter boxes extreme because 265 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: I cannot handle bad smells. Ever. I think if all 266 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: of this came with the usually associated smell of reality, 267 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to handle it. But because it's 268 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: all fight, it's just so entertaining, and I feel like 269 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: an evil little gremlin every time I have to like 270 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: cut into something all there's blood spurting. It's so cool, 271 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: it's so much fun. I really enjoy all of the 272 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: medical stuff. 273 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: The fact that you get into it, I mean that 274 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: only helps him share your character and the storyline and 275 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: the show. 276 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: And it's not for everyone. One of my best friends 277 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: is an actor as well, and she's working on a 278 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: military show at the moment. She has to train for 279 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: like two hours a day and she's like, you know, 280 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: practicing shooting guns, just carrying really heavy bags and like, 281 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's really intense physical training. And she's the 282 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: girliest girl to like ever go. But she was like 283 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: an athlete when she was younger. We joke about it 284 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: all the time where I'm like, that's all you. I'm 285 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: not a spotty I would cry every single day if 286 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: I had to train and do that much like physical work. 287 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: And she is so incredibly squeamish. She's like paper cut 288 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: and she starts crying and she's like, you do you, 289 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: I'll do me. And it is funny how I think 290 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people think we pick the projects, but 291 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: truly the project pick us, and the universe absolutely participates 292 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: in giving us what is most suited to us. And 293 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: as I get older, I'm like, no, she would not 294 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: have been able to handle being on grades. It would 295 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: have been a lot for her, and I would not 296 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: be able to handle doing what she does. Like it 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: really does shake out the way it is intended to. 298 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: Oh so much fun. 299 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: And that's so rewarding to see and hear because you 300 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: know their jobs. Sometimes I'm sure artists take because we 301 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: all need to work work, and then there's jobs that 302 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: really fuel your soul, and this one clearly you light 303 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: up as you talk about this, and it's so cool 304 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: to see that. Even when you mentioned the cast and 305 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: how wonderful these ogs have been and these iconic characters 306 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: have been, it seems like a beautiful blending. 307 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: It is, it really is, and you know, you never 308 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: know what you're going to get. It's like any workplace, 309 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: right there are always going to be some people that 310 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: you don't gel with, not necessarily in a super negative way, 311 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: but just some workspaces can be lonely and it can 312 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: be difficult, you know, connecting with people or joining a 313 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: very well established workforce where everybody already has their sort 314 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: of like friends and their bonds, and it can be 315 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: tricky sometimes. But it's been very seamless with this, I 316 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: think in terms of you know, sometimes you work just 317 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: to work. Absolutely, sometimes you take a job because you 318 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: need the paycheck because like rent is do. But I'm 319 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: very much of the mindset that you can make something 320 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: work for you, like there is space for joy and positivity, 321 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: and you know, if you don't find that on set, 322 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: then you reach out to your friends and be like, hey, 323 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: I'm going to be in the Quebec. I'm going to 324 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: be in Montreal shooting this thing for eight weeks. Do 325 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: you know anyone in Montreal? Do you, like when you 326 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: were shooting this thing, you have any good restaurants? Like 327 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: I am a firm believer in like finding joy. I've 328 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: been lucky that I haven't experienced too much of, you know, 329 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: difficult personalities on set. There are difficult personalities everywhere in 330 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: every industry, and I think I've been quite fortunate. And 331 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: then I've always been able to, you know, find friendship 332 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: and find joy, either through other people or through my 333 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: own efforts. I think there is joy to be found 334 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: wherever you are, and if you can't find it at work, 335 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: then you find it in your life. And if you 336 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: have things that bring you joy in your life, every 337 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: experience will be at the very least a learning experience. Yeah, 338 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: And it took me a long time to learn that 339 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't want to be beholden 340 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 2: to circum stance as like the arbiter of my happiness. 341 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: And it's an active choice. And I'm not saying I'm 342 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: not saying it's easy, but you know, switching switching focus 343 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: to finding joy and really small things and switching focus 344 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: to have been like a moment of joy in every 345 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: day and then that day is successful, has been done, 346 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: and wonders for me personally waking up and being like, oh, 347 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm so warm, that can be my moment of joy 348 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: for the day, and even if the rest of the 349 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: day sucks, the day was still a success. But I've 350 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: gotten really lucky in my work, and particularly lucky on 351 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: this set. 352 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: That's such a good mentality to have and a good reminder, 353 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: and like you said, it's an active choice and something 354 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: we hopefully all work on. But to live your life 355 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: like that is so rewarding, and it makes it you know, 356 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: it's tough out there, it makes it feel a little easier. 357 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: So I think that's such a thing. 358 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: Like changing the mindset isn't easy, is the thing I 359 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 2: used to be very very negative. It takes a lot 360 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: of work and a lot of like self correction. It's 361 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: like changing the way you think about things and always 362 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: drives me nuts and people like just be happy, just 363 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: decide that you're It's not that easy. It really isn't. 364 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: It is hard work to change the way that you 365 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: think and to It's like anything like you don't go 366 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: to the gym and then immediately start deadlifting one hundred 367 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: and fifty pounds like you have. It's a muscle and 368 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: you need to work on it. And it took time 369 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: to look for the positive first, but it's really worth 370 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: it. It's really worth it. And I am in the privileged 371 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: position where most of my life is very good, and 372 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: trying to find the positive when most of your life 373 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: is difficult or challenging or bad is really hard. And 374 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: my life was that when I decided I wanted to 375 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: be happier, it was very difficult, and I had no 376 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: money and I was really struggling with mental health and 377 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: a whole host of other issues. And I was like, well, 378 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 2: if I can start working on my mindset and try 379 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: to find a bit of joy and every day now 380 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: when it is it's most difficult. As things get better, 381 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: it will get easier and it does become automatic. But 382 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: it does take work. And I think anyone that's like 383 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: you can just decide to be happy has never had 384 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: clinical depression. It definitely takes work, and life is very 385 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: hard as it is, but it is one of those challenges, 386 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: one of those sort of journeys that I think is 387 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: really worth pursuing. 388 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: That's really cool that you, even now, I know you've 389 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: always been passionate about mental health and just now you've 390 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: opened up about it too, and a lot of people 391 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: don't choose to do that. And I think one of 392 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: the things I'm most interested in with people and with 393 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: the day and age we live in and with social media, 394 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: is kind of destigmatizing the glossy image of life that 395 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: we all can be guilty of presenting. And I think 396 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: that's something that probably serves you really well for work 397 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: and for your happiness and your future, because you seem 398 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: to be trying to live the truest form of your 399 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: life that you possibly can. 400 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do my best. I mean, I think it's 401 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: a very interesting catch. Twenty two. I grew up my 402 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 2: mother's always been very open about mental health, and my 403 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: family has always been very open about mental health. So 404 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: I didn't even really know there was a stigma behind 405 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: any of it. Even with my recent ADHD diagnosis and 406 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: learning about ADHD and seeing sort of anecdotal stories from 407 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: other people about how they've treated differently for having ADHD 408 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: or treated differently because they're on the autism spectrum, or 409 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: I didn't grow up knowing that there was that there 410 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: was stigma that people would treat you differently. If you 411 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: had mental health issues or if you were new divergent. 412 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: I didn't really know because that what didn't exist in 413 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: my house. So for me, it's never been a big deal. 414 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: Like it's not a big deal if you make it 415 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: a big deal. And I think familiarity leads to comfortability, 416 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: and people don't want to talk about things they're uncomfortable about, 417 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: and it's easier to talk about something that everybody else 418 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: is talking about, and you know, be like, oh, yeah, 419 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: I think I'm suffering from clinical depression when everybody's so 420 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: open about talking about it, It's never been something I've 421 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: thought about. I'm also just by nature a very open person. 422 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you a joke, but I won't 423 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: tell you a lie. I'm a terrible lie, which might 424 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: seem like a like an odd thing for an actor, 425 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: but you know, there's are very different. That's work and 426 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: then there's and then there's life, and the two are 427 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: very separated in my mind. But yeah, I've always been 428 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: very open and I don't see any reason not to be. 429 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: Anyone who treats me differently or has an issue with 430 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: how open I am about mental health or neurodivisions, that's 431 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: a them problem, you know what I mean, Like they 432 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: just it's easy for me to forgive that because they 433 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: just don't know enough. They clearly haven't done the research. 434 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 2: They just don't know enough, or you know, maybe they 435 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: have some past trauma. Overheard someone talk disparagingly about someone 436 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: who had anxiety or was ADHD or whatever in the past, 437 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: and that prevents them from you knowing clearly. But I 438 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: think in terms of sort of like being open in 439 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: social media and living complete whatever that means, it's an 440 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: interesting thing to be in a position of I don't know, celebrity. 441 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: I guess I don't feel like a celebrity ninety nin 442 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: percent of the time because I'm you know, taking out 443 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: the trash and catch it and those dirty dishes and 444 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: seek and I don't want to do them. And you know, 445 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: I'm a regular person ninety anercent of the time. It's 446 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: very interesting that people have made entire careers off a persona, 447 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: and maybe because what I do for work is create personas, 448 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: so I don't feel the need to do that in 449 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: my real life. I think for some people it's a 450 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: protective mechanism and they get to keep a part of 451 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: themselves secret and safe for themselves, especially when you're in 452 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: the public eye, that can be a struggle, and fans 453 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: want to know who you really who you really are, 454 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: and in some cases with really big celebrity sids can 455 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: be extremely invasive, and I under stand having a persona 456 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: as a protective sort of mechanism, especially when that makes 457 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: you money. I think for some really big celebrities, fans 458 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: want to know who you really are, but they also 459 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 2: they also don't. I think there are a lot of 460 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: people who are very enamored with the idea of celebrities 461 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: being not entirely people the way that you're you know, 462 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: standard person is a person. I think they really like 463 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: the idea of celebrities being like special or different in 464 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: some way, and if you are too real and too 465 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: much of a person, it sort of ruins that image 466 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: for them. Like a character in a TV show that 467 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: you're really attached to, that suspension of disbelief is so 468 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: important for you to become really invested in a show, 469 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: and really invested in a character, and really invested in 470 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: that world. It isn't real, but it it's real to you, 471 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: and I think that that can bleed over parasocially into 472 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: sort of celebrity image, where a lot of really big 473 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: celebrities aren't people. They're an idea. They're an ideal, there's 474 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: something to strive for, there's something untouchable, and that's what 475 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: makes them special, and too much of the real nitty 476 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: gritty can destroy that dream for some people. So it's 477 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: a really interesting sort of thought study on celebrity and 478 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: idolatry and kind of what it means to different people. 479 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm not very good at creating a persona. I think 480 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: I tried it for a little while, and honestly, it's exhausting. 481 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: It's really tiring. And I play different people for my job. 482 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: You know, I definitely behave differently on a carpet or 483 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: with friends or with family, but those are just facets 484 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: of the same person, where it's sort of creating an 485 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: alter ego. It doesn't come naturally to me at all. 486 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's why so many people connect with you. 487 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: It's because you are you know, real, and you are 488 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: who you are and there is not this big red 489 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: curtain that they have to pull back to get a 490 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: glimpse into who you are. And I think that's what, yeah, 491 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: is part of the reason why people do gravitate towards you. 492 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: So that's that's a really cool thing. 493 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: Well, sometimes I wish I could, you know, sometimes I'm like, 494 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: that would be nice to have that as sort of 495 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: like a like a safety thing. And you know, I've 496 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: put my footnote more than once in my career just 497 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: being like way too blunt and frank and honest, and 498 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: that's definitely bitten me a few times. It would be 499 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: nice if I was capable of doing that, but it's 500 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: it's too difficult for me personally. And I have a 501 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: lot of admiration for people that can juggle the two 502 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: because it is it is a lot of work, and 503 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: it is it is truly at and it's a it's 504 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: a form of acting in my craft in and of 505 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: itself to be able to do that, and I think 506 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: it's very impressive when people can don't. I don't have 507 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: the bandwidth for it, unfortunately, So I'll probably continue to 508 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: put my footmight occasionally throughout my career. But you know, 509 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: it's a much more comfortable way for me personally to live. 510 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it keeps life, in my opinion, a little 511 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: more interesting. So I think that's a good way to live. 512 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 513 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: So now I have a few kind of rapid fire 514 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: questions before I get to my very big introspective question 515 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: which you might have a hint of what's coming based 516 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: off the title, But for a few rapid fires, okay. 517 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Number one, is Ellen Pompeo as dreamy as she seems? 518 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: Yes, in the same way that a dream is both 519 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: beautiful and a little terrifying. Ellen Pompeo is that because 520 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: she's Ellen Pompeo, you know, and like she's she's she's 521 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: been such an eye lnchpin in our industry for so long, 522 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: and she was so like kind to us and welcoming 523 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: and made jokes and all of us look like, you know, 524 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: a little nervous, you know, meeting your big sister's like 525 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: super cool friend who's like the most popular person. She 526 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: gave us these like big, like succulent gardens. It's a 527 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: welcome gift when we all arrived, and you know, it's 528 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: really cool. She's she's got such a presence on set 529 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: as well, like we all know when she's around to 530 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: do like audio or whatever, because her trailer has like 531 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: trees set up around it, and when the trees aren't 532 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: set up, she's not there, and then when the trees 533 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: are set up, we're like Ellen's on set today, Ellen's 534 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: around today. Yeah, what a remarkable woman, What a remarkable career. 535 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Number two two of three. Let's go with the question 536 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: about Rain For all those rain fans listening, I'm sure 537 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: there's many many tuns of this. Hey, rain Fans, what 538 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: do you miss most about that show? 539 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: Why do I begin? By the time we wrapped up 540 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: that show, I was so close with the rest of 541 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: the cast, like we were really such a family. And 542 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: I still see quite a few of those cast members 543 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: were still really close, like Rachel's Carston and Jonathan Celton. 544 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: You know, I get to see Megan and Craig every 545 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: now and again, and when I'm in London, I get 546 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: to see Rose, And it's just we had such a 547 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: family on that set. I really miss them, like right 548 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: down to our crew who came back for us, Like 549 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: every season they turned down other jobs so they could 550 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: come back to us. Like it was just such a close, close, close, 551 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: loving supportive set. You know, I never thought I'd find 552 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: anything close to that kind of synchronicity again in my career, 553 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: like sort of a once in a lifetime job. I'm 554 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: really grateful for Grace because it's it shows promise of 555 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: being that again. Of course with Brandon took four years 556 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: to get there. But I really really miss those people, 557 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: and I missed Toronto. To be completely honest, I don't 558 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: miss the winters in Toronto, but I kind of grew 559 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: up there. I was on that show from like twenty 560 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: three to twenty seven, which are really formative years in 561 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: any young person's life, and I did that in Toronto, 562 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: and I really loved that city. The winter's sock. 563 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: But go outside it's thirty degrees. Yes, I know, winters suck. 564 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: I deal with the year round. 565 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, it wor in New York. It's worse than 566 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: New York, but you'd get a get frostbite warnings as like, 567 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: you know, the service and announcement pop up on our phone. 568 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: It was like, if you go outside for more than 569 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: five minutes with any exposed skin, you're going to get 570 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: frostbited because of the wind's coming off the lake. 571 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, thank you. 572 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 2: I have no damage in my left foot from trekking 573 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: through snow and thin leather boots in the dead of 574 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: winter in those dresses. Yeah, it only comes back when 575 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: I'm in icy conditions. And two of my toes on 576 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: my left foot go none. 577 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: So oh my ysh, well you missed the cast, you 578 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: don't miss the numbness. I think that's that's uh fair 579 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: to say, but that's amazing. I know that show means 580 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: a lot to many people, so I had to get 581 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: in a question about that. And also another show that 582 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: means a lot too many people. Once upon a time, 583 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: you played the Evil Stepsister, which I mean and Italy. 584 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: My husband and I watched that show like all during 585 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: the pandemic a million times. It's just so fun. So 586 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: for all the wancers out there, was that just a 587 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: magical experience? 588 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: Like truly, truly, it really was. I once was so 589 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: much fun. It was so much fun during one of 590 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: my short hair eras, like, I had such a good 591 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: time on that show. I mean, like getting to play 592 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: like a bitch was so much fun. I'd never gotten 593 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: to do that before, and I just like channeled every 594 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: meeting go I'd ever seen in high school. 595 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: You played a bitch very convincingly. I have to say, Oh, I. 596 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: Was bullied all through school, so I had a lot 597 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: of firsthand experience what that looks like. And it was 598 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: fun to play a mean girl and have it not 599 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: be real, because like, when people are mean in real life, 600 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, doesn't that hurt you on the inside, Like 601 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: don't you see the look on someone's face when you 602 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: say something cutting? And doesn't that just like eat it you. 603 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 2: The times that I've hurt people's feelings have been purely 604 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: by accident because I'm too blunt, and I've had to 605 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: learn to be more tactful in the way I speak, 606 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: because I can hurt people's feelings with my bluntness, But 607 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: to set out to do that on purpose, to deliberately 608 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: unsettle or hurt someone, doesn't that just give you a 609 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: sick feeling in your stomach. So to be able to 610 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: say sassy, mean things and have it not be real, 611 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: it's funny. It's a joke because it's not real. And 612 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: I would never ever say any of those things to 613 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: anybody in real life because that's horrible. But it was 614 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: so much fun. And then I got close with the 615 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: costume department there as well, because my character is sort 616 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: of popped in and out and I only really had 617 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: one or two like outfits an episode. And because she would, like, 618 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: you know, thought she was like a fashion girl, they 619 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: told me what the budget was because I had a 620 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: set like a small set budget for every episode, but 621 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: since I only had one or two outfits, we got 622 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: to really stretch it and like go to Nord Stream 623 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: Rack and there was one beautiful like green and gold 624 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: shirt that was me and me that they got from 625 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: like first Steel, from some vintage place, and we got 626 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: to really really dress up and wear some really cool, 627 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: like high end pieces. It was so much fun. And 628 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: then to just be like I think most people grew 629 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: up with like Disney movies, so to be able to 630 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: be like a Disney character an evil step system was 631 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: so much fun and mean characters are always the most 632 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: fun to play. 633 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an iconic role to step into. So 634 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: that was, as a viewer, really fun to watch. So 635 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: you survived the rapid fire around. The final question of 636 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: this interview is based off the title of the show, 637 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering, is there anything that you've known ever 638 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: said before, whether it's silly or deep or whatever you 639 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: can think of at the top of your mind. Is 640 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: there something that you would want to share today? 641 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: Hmm. I've given this a lot of thought, and I 642 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: think with how open I am as a person, there 643 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: are very few things I haven't said before, and I've 644 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: been in therapy for a very long time. But I 645 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: think if I had a chance, looking back to live 646 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: my life over again, with you know, the moves that 647 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: I've made and the mistakes that I've made. I've been 648 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: asked by friends, you know, if you could start again 649 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: at like twelve, or at the beginning of your career 650 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: and do things differently, would you? And sometimes I think 651 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: I would. But I think ultimately, looking back at my 652 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: life and all the good things and all of the 653 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: bad things, I don't think I would change anything, even 654 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: with the mistakes, even with the really difficult things I've 655 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: been through in my life. I really like who I 656 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: am now and where I am and how I move 657 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: through the world and the people in my life, and 658 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: I don't think i'd change a thing. I don think 659 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 2: i'd change a single thing if I had the chance 660 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: to do it all over breaking. 661 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: I love that response. Thank you for sharing that, and 662 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: thank you for everything you've opened up with in this 663 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: conversation today. You know, sometimes when you're on zoom and 664 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: you can't feel somebody in a room that could be 665 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: I guess a disadvantage when you're interviewing somebody, but when 666 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: you feel somebody as strongly as I felt to you today, 667 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: it just shows me how truly you know, grounded and 668 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: centered and grateful and present you are as a person, 669 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: and I just I really enjoy this conversation. 670 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: So thank you, Thank you. Likewise, I mean, I saw 671 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: the breakdown of what you do here and what you 672 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: do on your show, and I really wanted to show 673 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 2: up and deliver up for you in the spirit which 674 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: you came to the table. So I appreciate you, and 675 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. Thank you so much. 676 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, and for everybody listening. Grazes back in March 677 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: in just a couple of weeks, so check it out. 678 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of fun we can expect. 679 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: Right oh you bet is drama, drama, drama every episode. 680 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Okay, you heard it there first. Well, thank you again 681 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: and until we meet again, Thank you so much. 682 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 2: To a great day. 683 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario. 684 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio 685 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 686 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 687 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: Podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts for more rate, review and 688 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: subscribe to our show. And if you liked this episode, 689 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Dederio.