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Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I'm gonna tell you straight up and down.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the easiest interviews we've ever had,
Speaker 1: we've ever conducted, if we've ever presented. Because I watched
Speaker 1: these these these people's story for the last two days.
Speaker 1: I know all these stories individually, but collectively, I gotta
Speaker 1: pick up. I don't know whose idea was to really
Speaker 1: out five together even though the other person is there,
Speaker 1: but it's Jeems Because at first I thought I was like,
Speaker 1: damn they got too much history. How can they fit
Speaker 1: it all in one thing? Oh it's a serious okay
Speaker 1: boom even though the series, how does it all make sense?
Speaker 1: So if you watch one and two, if people just
Speaker 1: coming out next week, I believe three or four would
Speaker 1: be out by that. It gets so crazy, like I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, and I thought I thought like it was sacred,
Speaker 1: like things were sacred. People was something was off the
Speaker 1: table like they were they giving it up. They're talking
Speaker 1: about from this is so these four individuals that's here
Speaker 1: right now, it's very suddenly I get a chance to
Speaker 1: to sit for the four individuals are so lead, respect
Speaker 1: on them, look up to and their legends. They ain't
Speaker 1: got no dirty jackets, no dirty things when they back, no, no,
Speaker 1: no fucking read Ronley Ship, their legends and they good
Speaker 1: people and in front of us, and we're gonna show
Speaker 1: them super fucking love. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: to start with you. You but hit you with a
Speaker 1: kind of harsh question because as I'm as I'm looking
Speaker 1: on episode sixty and you guys said you didn't see it.
Speaker 1: Um episode six, we're into the Nipsey Hustle rumors, right,
Speaker 1: And I had never heard that I had never heard
Speaker 1: of this conspiracy, that the big you had that stup
Speaker 1: to do with it? Right, But let me ask you,
Speaker 1: let me get to a little deeper question. The rule
Speaker 1: has it is that Nick came up to this guy
Speaker 1: and said, I can't hang with you or we can't
Speaker 1: be around because you're he was he was a rap, right.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. It's kind of harsh.
Speaker 1: Was Nipsey supposed to say that if you're not in
Speaker 1: the streets no more, it is your opinion on the
Speaker 1: streets that valid? I'm asking Yeah, I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: understand it was two things. Let me say, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this because what bothers me the most of
Speaker 1: when people say he got killed by one of his
Speaker 1: own home but at some point he wasn't his humble
Speaker 1: because he's like, Nigga, you ain't supposed to be here
Speaker 1: if you fire somebody from drink chance and then Nigga
Speaker 1: pulled back up to drinks where y'all feeling you're gonna
Speaker 1: be like NIGGD. Whn't that this grounder employees that mean
Speaker 1: he wasn't humble like so they did that part like
Speaker 1: he wasn't homie and then Secondly, no, Nipson addressed that
Speaker 1: because Nip knew who he was, like the nigga was
Speaker 1: they guy like he worked for Nip, grew up with
Speaker 1: Nip and he really wasn't his he was the man
Speaker 1: he was like, he was the guy. He really was
Speaker 1: a shooter in the streets. And secondly, it ain't no
Speaker 1: paperwork on him in Wow. So I mean we have
Speaker 1: you have to first and tell you something that happened
Speaker 1: that day. Happened, happened? What? What? What they Nipsy? I
Speaker 1: think it was a sad Sunday Nipsy or something like that.
Speaker 1: I got approached with that same situation that Saturday. Dude
Speaker 1: came up to me on in a restaurant. I was
Speaker 1: trapped and he looked he felt and he said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you know right now. People saying I'm right,
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, Ship, Like I didn't want
Speaker 1: to have this conversation and look, he just said it
Speaker 1: straight out and I was like, oh Ship. He addressed me,
Speaker 1: so I didn't have to address him. But I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, I thought about NISI immediately when that happened
Speaker 1: the next day, I was like, yo, you know that
Speaker 1: could have that actual situation could have happened to me.
Speaker 1: But as a rapper, what I've been out of line
Speaker 1: to even question a Reyal Street Dude, I mean Nip.
Speaker 1: You understand people want to remove and separating Nip from
Speaker 1: the streets. You don't never really leave the streets like
Speaker 1: this where he grew up at. This is where he lived.
Speaker 1: That's where it's business. Would So, really, dude, was in
Speaker 1: violation if you knew you right or not, if you
Speaker 1: know you're not rocking while you put up in my space.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that Nip, free my space.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to go there with you, but free
Speaker 1: my space and and and Nip supposed to go there
Speaker 1: because that's where you meet the kids, That's where he
Speaker 1: greet the people. That's where he can still stay grounded,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like if he don't go there,
Speaker 1: no more, he don't show up these other things. He
Speaker 1: leave LN moved somewhere else in Hollywood. He just took
Speaker 1: pictus with some little babies. I'm saying he had blessed
Speaker 1: a little girl and some more kids. He was taking
Speaker 1: pictures with him. That's what he's supposed to do. He
Speaker 1: give them back you know what I mean, his presence
Speaker 1: is gonna touch somebody else. So if if a lane
Speaker 1: come up, if they beating, whatever the reason is, he
Speaker 1: don't have to be stitching up to be whatever. Nig
Speaker 1: you just was mad at the world, and he was
Speaker 1: mad at what the situation is. I'm not gonna stop
Speaker 1: going to my neighborhood. I live in my neighborhood. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I live on the hill in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. Don't want to live up to We always
Speaker 1: wanted to be you know what I'm saying. Said, we
Speaker 1: wanted to get to them houses up there. So I
Speaker 1: got to the houses up there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But on man, I mean, it's it's the forest. Think
Speaker 1: that violence ain't gonna follow you wherever it is. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's gonna follow you where If
Speaker 1: it's gonna follow you, and if it meant for you
Speaker 1: to happen, it's gonna hit you. Period. That's real, not death.
Speaker 1: You got one of my favorite, Like Bobby Browns has
Speaker 1: my favorite cocaine story when he said he fried cocaine.
Speaker 1: He fried chicken with cocaine, And I just thought that
Speaker 1: was amazing, Like who has that much cocaine and they
Speaker 1: could convince it and people flowers. I thought Bobby Brown
Speaker 1: had it until I heard your storry death. Yeah. When
Speaker 1: I heard your story, and I was like, yo, okay,
Speaker 1: do you know the story? Okay and no, which is
Speaker 1: really crazy, but no more than r Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think about me stuff. You're really gonna check the staid
Speaker 1: just gonna be an ag cul like we just it
Speaker 1: was gonna be just that, I know when you really learned.
Speaker 1: So the story is that death? They had so much
Speaker 1: of her. Are you talking about the baby powder? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that it was what your mom's asked. I think your brother,
Speaker 1: my father, my dad when this baby thought it was
Speaker 1: baby per you actually thought it was baby powder, said it,
Speaker 1: but it was it was you put it on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that she had so much hermine in the house that
Speaker 1: they thought it was baby powder and put it on.
Speaker 1: How what what? What do you know that? I was, Hey,
Speaker 1: how did you know? Because I didn't know nothing? Was
Speaker 1: a kid. I was baby p Yeah, I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm going to up like after he took a shower
Speaker 1: and talking about Chrishall Johnson. Johnson was everything, so were
Speaker 1: thinking it was smell it let us smell like and
Speaker 1: me and my cousin Sharon just kept doing it. But
Speaker 1: I really was going on it and put it on, yeah, absorbed,
Speaker 1: and there was some real so so did you like
Speaker 1: you see you said your skin broke out or something
Speaker 1: like that. I was nodding all over the place. I
Speaker 1: was funny. I was growling up thing yo. This I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's only funny because she good. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't good then because of the stuff. That's how I
Speaker 1: learned about black chalking. It's crazy because as a kid,
Speaker 1: I learned about that that black chalk shit about them
Speaker 1: the stuff that they give you and all the things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the stuff that they give you. And I learned that
Speaker 1: deal inside of Queen's General Hospital at that time when
Speaker 1: we went in, and I learned a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I remember my dad, I could see him when
Speaker 1: he was there, and he was talking. He was talking
Speaker 1: whoever that you know. It was like some doctors, everybody,
Speaker 1: it was talking. But then I remember when we left
Speaker 1: with back, I was so drunk, uh you know. And
Speaker 1: it was crazy because my mother was like she was
Speaker 1: so angry because I got the brain for the ship
Speaker 1: that her husband did somebody asked the junkie, she wants
Speaker 1: something to eat, what she wants something like that wasn't
Speaker 1: my fault, Like I got blamed for going in there.
Speaker 1: That's the same thing with method on thinking it's orange
Speaker 1: juice in your damn refrigerator. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Used to had a ship in a damn refrigerator A
Speaker 1: long time I could. That's a don't like sunny Delight.
Speaker 1: I don't drink sunny Delights because sunny listen, don't don't.
Speaker 1: It's something that you had to know during that time.
Speaker 1: It's for so long, I was so ashamed of so
Speaker 1: many things that went on with me. But I was
Speaker 1: a product of my environment. This is where I came from,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Which was really really crazy
Speaker 1: because the bottles were sitting in the refrigerator. Remember I
Speaker 1: don't touch sunny Delight because the stick just like that
Speaker 1: ship it is, and I know we we had that
Speaker 1: for or the fetal position in the front at the house,
Speaker 1: not knowing what the hell is going on, you get
Speaker 1: the ship beat out of you. It will just be
Speaker 1: my ass for I didn't know any better. Because you
Speaker 1: have to still understand during that time, there was things
Speaker 1: that were still hidden from you. You could not know
Speaker 1: things like a child was to be seen but never heard.
Speaker 1: You couldn't and you could not discuss whatever went on
Speaker 1: in your household. Stage in your house, you bed not
Speaker 1: go outside and talk about none of this ship. You
Speaker 1: couldn't talk about these things. So those were all the
Speaker 1: things that were so deep. But yet you have all
Speaker 1: these people from all this time that's being judged by
Speaker 1: all these things. Think about like that. I go in
Speaker 1: to prisons and I talked to people, men and women.
Speaker 1: You know, I cry with them because I overstand what
Speaker 1: you went through. I thank god for the people that
Speaker 1: was out there that really looked out for me and
Speaker 1: taught me differently. Because when you was wanting to be
Speaker 1: lawyers and doctors, I want to be the biggest dope
Speaker 1: deal in the world out there, man like you couldn't
Speaker 1: be bigger than me. And I was gonna do something
Speaker 1: that no woman ever done. These are things that I
Speaker 1: was gonna be able to do because I was taught
Speaker 1: early going. You couldn't not tell me nothing about my
Speaker 1: daddy and what he knew. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Look that was people must go game did you do
Speaker 1: with body Brown? You know, you know what's funny. I
Speaker 1: need to drink something. But checking one thing I did
Speaker 1: prowed you out for two million dollars. He was a
Speaker 1: good friend. Something I never sold one un to my friends.
Speaker 1: That's wherever, you know. I mean I sold people. I
Speaker 1: don't know, that's what I mean. You know, I mean Bobby,
Speaker 1: we never you know, did drugs. I know sold drugs
Speaker 1: because one time I've seen Bobby, he got out of
Speaker 1: betty Ford that he's in. He's in normal. We don't
Speaker 1: don't got here, baby, Please don't for heads man come out?
Speaker 1: So so checking you know, we were in a limo
Speaker 1: one day and I'm in the back seat with him,
Speaker 1: he in the middle. My other man here two of
Speaker 1: the guy's head. It's his model dude. He likes Canna do.
Speaker 1: I forgot his name. And he had passed Bobby. A
Speaker 1: joint was laced. So when when he when he when
Speaker 1: he tapped it, I mean, I mean, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: about the window. And I grabbed him and I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I never believe what I heard you doing that in
Speaker 1: the front of me. Ye're just gonna see you know,
Speaker 1: I would miss it. Threw it out the window. I mean,
Speaker 1: so I don't condone my friends. Have a drink, come
Speaker 1: drink a family like I know before, like I was
Speaker 1: in Boster because you know, I was a bad kid,
Speaker 1: as usually, got sent down to Dorchester and that's what
Speaker 1: I first met them, where before they was anything. Families
Speaker 1: are so much alike, is pathetic, and they became like family,
Speaker 1: touched literally even though Benny was dipping dapping over there,
Speaker 1: but they were like family them. That's that's not it's
Speaker 1: not I'm not telling that you right here, I'm not
Speaker 1: really extension. We tell the story. We tell the story.
Speaker 1: He didn't even talk like flies, but they were like
Speaker 1: literally and for every one of them is one of us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were so much alike and outside of with people
Speaker 1: here in the media, when you learn these people like
Speaker 1: Nippy you know what I'm saying, like getting to sit
Speaker 1: with herd really knowing that you know that inside and
Speaker 1: who she is the real person to who she is,
Speaker 1: you know and who she really was. Were not looking
Speaker 1: at her and look at people like look at this singer,
Speaker 1: but nobody knew she really wanted to be a veterinarian.
Speaker 1: She didn't want to be a singer. And so if
Speaker 1: you really sat down with her and took yeah, she
Speaker 1: wants to be a vacinarian. She didn't want to be
Speaker 1: a singer. You understand what I'm saying. So it's because
Speaker 1: of the family and all the stuff that was there
Speaker 1: when the media secessionalized so many things and you don't
Speaker 1: really know that person, just like each one of us,
Speaker 1: Like you'll hear whatever you hear in the streets, whatever
Speaker 1: you hear the media, the social media ship, but you
Speaker 1: don't really know us exactly exactly. Make some noise for that.
Speaker 1: That was all. That's all. So let me ask you
Speaker 1: to check because I don't understand what is the no
Speaker 1: flies zone? What does what does that mean? Because I mean,
Speaker 1: I've come to Detroit and had marvelous times the movie,
Speaker 1: but when that was what does people what? What does it?
Speaker 1: Regul labels used to have like street teams, and that
Speaker 1: was back in the A and R days. You know,
Speaker 1: they would have a promo team take the artists, you know,
Speaker 1: and R take the artists two different lo locations, and
Speaker 1: it was like they were just coming to Detroit and
Speaker 1: wasn't picking up nothing. It was like they would charge
Speaker 1: the local artists to perform. They would charge the local
Speaker 1: artists to perform. The local artists would bring fifty sixty
Speaker 1: people sometimes to this event that will pay to get in.
Speaker 1: It's like, how is you charging them and they bringing
Speaker 1: you revenue? You know. And then you know when it
Speaker 1: kept happening with the little homies, and they were just
Speaker 1: doing it because they got money, like you know, fun
Speaker 1: that man just their own stage, and it was it
Speaker 1: was radio as well, like you know, the Summer Jams
Speaker 1: events didn't consist of all the mostly Detroit artists. They
Speaker 1: consist of everybody from everywhere else. And the Detroit artists
Speaker 1: would get charged, and I was like, funk that stop
Speaker 1: everything and only entertainment around this bitch gonna be what's here.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get acquainted with what we got around
Speaker 1: these corners. And then we started letting a few trinklets
Speaker 1: in one at a time, and if anybody violated it,
Speaker 1: well deal with that a quarter, you know, because what's
Speaker 1: young bird like the first one I think you should
Speaker 1: give us take his chain on tours? You know, he's
Speaker 1: he's he was like a little you know, he just
Speaker 1: both guns on some other ship with my cousin. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying they didn't have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with it, because, like me, when when that happened to him, Bro,
Speaker 1: I was over there talking to him bodyguard during his assault.
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with his bodyguard because his
Speaker 1: bodyguard was trying to bring a pistol in my club
Speaker 1: and I had a rude the only pistol packing and
Speaker 1: this motherfucker is gonna be me or the police or
Speaker 1: my security. So dude was trying to say he worked
Speaker 1: for the d A and all this, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: I know this guy because you know it's basically picked
Speaker 1: up in local security. So I'm like, no, bro, you
Speaker 1: know basically you cannot bring a pistol on his chill.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it not. The artists then came in
Speaker 1: the door and went further down the vestibute the balcony record.
Speaker 1: I'm still behind my bar, next to the free ice
Speaker 1: freezer talking to him on the other side of the bar.
Speaker 1: A fight broke out down that way. I'm moving him
Speaker 1: out of the way. Ran down there. I've seen one
Speaker 1: of my loanss with a jewel he coming in for
Speaker 1: the and hey, I wrapped him up, and that you're
Speaker 1: doing y'all, get this ship out of here, everybody, get
Speaker 1: the funk out, Get it out, turned back around, went
Speaker 1: back over to where the bodyguard was at, and started
Speaker 1: having to continue my conversation. His phone rang. He did
Speaker 1: like this and took off running out the door. That
Speaker 1: security Bird security. So he came back in. His name
Speaker 1: was friends or friends or some ship like that. He
Speaker 1: came back in and he said that was bird. And
Speaker 1: I said, who is bird? He said that was bird
Speaker 1: that just took his chain. I was like, well, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: I'm standing there talking to him telling me about what
Speaker 1: the funk I ain't seen nobody changing over. And so
Speaker 1: later on one of my other little homies, very very
Speaker 1: close little homie came to me. It was like, look,
Speaker 1: I got that big, big homie, and I said, get
Speaker 1: that ship out of here, because to me, that's evidence
Speaker 1: in the salt and the robberty, right, So get the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. The little homie start having their
Speaker 1: own little quarrel about it. Who was gonna get it?
Speaker 1: Who was gonna say, all right, tell you what, ain't
Speaker 1: nobody gonna take it? I got it. Ain't gonna do
Speaker 1: that over this ship. I'll take it. I took it home,
Speaker 1: put it in the fucking tower closet. Okay, the whole closet,
Speaker 1: top shop tiles. No, it was glass and stailing steel.
Speaker 1: So I took it. So I went to the studio
Speaker 1: normal cours of business, and my older sister Monique called
Speaker 1: me and she said, you know, your daughter on the
Speaker 1: internet with some chain and so my sisters in Evans,
Speaker 1: so she don't know none of this. Ship. She said,
Speaker 1: I've been getting calls at your daughter, Little Money is
Speaker 1: on the internet with some chain or something. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just dropped my head like, no fucking way like.
Speaker 1: So I called and she sent me the picture. I
Speaker 1: called my daughter put her on an immediate six month punishment.
Speaker 1: Let me back up, man, I'm thinking, day County l
Speaker 1: you can't mix that, man. You let ex spade is
Speaker 1: good shit. You know it won't mix with this with
Speaker 1: nothing up thinking, let me back up a little cup
Speaker 1: after I got it from after little Bro picked it
Speaker 1: up from the Little Homies. First, little Bro took a
Speaker 1: picture into Dzel. He took a picture with it on
Speaker 1: I think that night or the next night, and that
Speaker 1: picture boom. I'm like, fuck, That's when I tell him
Speaker 1: bro it's everdence. No, not this broke. He toold about
Speaker 1: somebody happened in my phone. Blah blah blaa. Okay. Then
Speaker 1: I took it, took it home. Then my sister called
Speaker 1: me and said my daughter. Then I went home, grabbing,
Speaker 1: grabbed the saying, brought it to the studio and called
Speaker 1: all at home and said, everybody come up here right
Speaker 1: now and take a picture with this piece of ship.
Speaker 1: So we're not gonna have just my household. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get everybody gonna Oh, we got older white way man
Speaker 1: and everything. Come on, I take my man, Brian bring
Speaker 1: his mama, Teresa DoD blessed Brian, tell mama, t come
Speaker 1: on up your dog, take a picture. They bought the
Speaker 1: mama and auntie. So you know, you got two old
Speaker 1: white ladies with it on. You got the other guys
Speaker 1: and they take listen, you take the picture. He's coming everything.
Speaker 1: You take it out, saying, you get in your car
Speaker 1: and take a picture with it. You're getting back of
Speaker 1: your card with it. You're gonna make this more fun.
Speaker 1: And then we took the bitch on tour. Ye, we
Speaker 1: took the mother fuck on the tour because it became
Speaker 1: a piece of show novelty. During this song, I got
Speaker 1: called you can get funked up? What dies will walk
Speaker 1: off the stage and me and my DJ Baby brod
Speaker 1: DJ Thriller have a little conversation right quick, and then
Speaker 1: it's like because you can get fucked up? And when
Speaker 1: the bet and dies Wil come out there with the
Speaker 1: bitch over and the audience erupted every time. Mice Kids
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, I don't know if y'all should
Speaker 1: be out here with Look at young bird. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be bad you. How can he changed? If you got returned?
Speaker 1: Oh ship mother, Yeah, it's like it's like you lost
Speaker 1: the ball over and not just lost. And you think
Speaker 1: you would help mothers get ship back all the way
Speaker 1: in Canada. Yeah, we got a little squad out there
Speaker 1: in Canada. Yeah, I mean it's almost everywhere. It's almost
Speaker 1: like change you got back or like Drewry or some
Speaker 1: ship bro, I mean getting ship back and don't even
Speaker 1: know I get it back, and it's just lying say
Speaker 1: I called you know what I mean? Like I know,
Speaker 1: Mother Gonna did the robbery out of somebody house for
Speaker 1: five hunted and the little Niggas and then gave the
Speaker 1: money back to him because because they used my name.
Speaker 1: And then I called and find out women the little
Speaker 1: we gave them money back, said you gave one money
Speaker 1: back and I'm mad because I don't give money back
Speaker 1: called myself. It's so crazy. It's so crazy because this
Speaker 1: documentary makes so much sense. It's because people don't know
Speaker 1: that about the four of us, and you gotta call
Speaker 1: them something better than the document It's better than the documentary. Man,
Speaker 1: Like listen, bro, listen, I want you to finish it.
Speaker 1: I started out knowing it's gonna be good because I
Speaker 1: know y'all stories and I love Like I said, I
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of connect y'all got there, but
Speaker 1: they the way they lined it up, we had a heltine.
Speaker 1: Listen to the two episodes they do is just to
Speaker 1: grab you in and then once you in, it's the
Speaker 1: episode three with Hastia. Jack starts talking about boy and
Speaker 1: you can tell he forgive them. It's like y'all start
Speaker 1: going deep and deep, and I was just like, yo,
Speaker 1: how they put it together? Because, like I said, like
Speaker 1: Bimmy's a story by itself, your story by yourself. You're
Speaker 1: a movie by yourself. Your movie by yourself for them
Speaker 1: to put it together and perfectly intertwined. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: all together the way they tell that together. And then
Speaker 1: every state it's like it was crazy because y'all five
Speaker 1: people don't touch every state on y'all went in the
Speaker 1: Run of Atlanta. Though I don't know why every everybody
Speaker 1: went on the Run of Atlanta, Like everybody in the
Speaker 1: Atlanta he's going on. It's black, but you know, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: the craziest thing. And even for me this was very
Speaker 1: therapeutic because I didn't we talking of being able to
Speaker 1: talk about it. It was like opening Pandora's box and
Speaker 1: releasing ship up out of there because coming from the
Speaker 1: effor that we came from, you don't talk. But then
Speaker 1: you really, even though you know about you really start
Speaker 1: learning things right, Like even for him, like I love
Speaker 1: this thing, but I started saying after I started looking
Speaker 1: at this, what the hell was wrong with you? Say
Speaker 1: something to this man? You could have really give something
Speaker 1: to you because he's really out to lunch games. This
Speaker 1: is the most gentleman. You're not. Like when I see
Speaker 1: somebody who's loud, voiceous and trying to be tough, it's
Speaker 1: usually the guy I look over the real dudes is
Speaker 1: one and holding the elevated for you holding the groceres
Speaker 1: a nice um. But I said, I just wanted you
Speaker 1: to finish up so about the jury thing. And you said,
Speaker 1: it's just not in lost ageless. No, it's not just
Speaker 1: you get everywhere. Likely even I've got close in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night like this one got bed County.
Speaker 1: But they really was going through it. But calling you
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night to three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, four o'clock in the morning, your phone ringing
Speaker 1: like to drop and and they know, I'm just still
Speaker 1: not gonna do that, so don't try it, Northy. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna throw people under the bus, go to my brands.
Speaker 1: But they know to call, like yo, let's up what
Speaker 1: you're doing? You know, being able to call somebody and
Speaker 1: to do these things like it's crazy. It's crazy because
Speaker 1: a lot of people went through a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and especially a lot of them that run around here
Speaker 1: like the gangster like really bad. It comes from because
Speaker 1: I was just I was just with my home, was
Speaker 1: it riding motorcycles? They do wear breeze And when I
Speaker 1: go to when I go to a certain places, like
Speaker 1: if I go to and I check in with bed. Right,
Speaker 1: that's my long book, and he asked me with a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. But it's a lot of these youngsters
Speaker 1: who coming to the game, like she'd tell you, they
Speaker 1: never had more than in their life. They get a
Speaker 1: song and get hot. They get fifteen thousands, now a
Speaker 1: hundred thousands. They bring their whole cross squad with him
Speaker 1: and they're hitting the city of the city, right, And
Speaker 1: didn't they say? You know you somewhere and you see
Speaker 1: these youngsters? They on the east side at waffle House?
Speaker 1: Are there? Um? They where I see you all that?
Speaker 1: Where else? See your love? First of no, no yells
Speaker 1: that what's his name? Restaurant with tip Son? He got
Speaker 1: tip Son and they had um on the east Roscoes.
Speaker 1: They on the east side of Roscoes. I'm walking Roscoes
Speaker 1: on some different business because some other ship didn't happen,
Speaker 1: and I come in there to take care of some
Speaker 1: other bids with some week we ain't even it ain't
Speaker 1: no nice business. I walk in Rosco's. He ain't there
Speaker 1: with Tias and Tia littleson on. I got what the
Speaker 1: funds all doing there? I called Tip put someone for them.
Speaker 1: Doing there. They don't have no clue where they're where
Speaker 1: they are. They just there. They're thinking it's Roscoes. You're
Speaker 1: at the wrong Roscoe. There's two more. Pay more Rosco's.
Speaker 1: Go to one either one by my neighborhood or the
Speaker 1: water in the Holly Holley. But the Losco when the
Speaker 1: wrong all the on the east side, you gotta call Bagie.
Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is this is our babies.
Speaker 1: So if he get a tour or something, he ain't
Speaker 1: gotta call. It's gonna be my problem regardless. But here
Speaker 1: in the room fucking place at the wrong time, and
Speaker 1: now all these all the dudes out there looking like
Speaker 1: m I to tell Leslie Man what I called her
Speaker 1: daddy sait Man to the thing. I don't be just
Speaker 1: running around here like this, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What's he good? Is his city? But they end up
Speaker 1: in the wrong places, they get it bad, they get
Speaker 1: a little bit, they're moving, and I had to call
Speaker 1: you know what I called the day. So this happens
Speaker 1: every single day in their life. And it happens more
Speaker 1: than even you even hear about it. Right, So when
Speaker 1: you say it's an appropriate question, how many you get back, bro,
Speaker 1: I get them back and they don't even know about it.
Speaker 1: And then you know what happens after they get another crew,
Speaker 1: they mess some dude some out there from the town.
Speaker 1: They side up and now if you get they know
Speaker 1: your name and tell them nigga that they're fucking with
Speaker 1: to sit out and fall all they end up there
Speaker 1: somewhere and you know what I mean. So now remember
Speaker 1: you remember I was, and that all somebody try to
Speaker 1: use you because they know something somebody dead to you.
Speaker 1: They were like, yo, guess where I'm at. Your guest,
Speaker 1: who's in here with me? Right now? Y'all got this here?
Speaker 1: If you wanted what's up that I'm just telling? They
Speaker 1: just want you to just give the okay to set. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they just want you to just say it. And it's
Speaker 1: just funny because you might even be talking ship and
Speaker 1: don't even know who you now, you don't know because
Speaker 1: nobody talks, nobody saying nothing. It's amazing to me how
Speaker 1: I could sit there and say ship, the people that
Speaker 1: you said, you don't even know who you was talking
Speaker 1: to me. You don't even know that I was on
Speaker 1: the phone listening to the ship, and I could have said,
Speaker 1: get him. I have a driver that a few drivers
Speaker 1: and uh and and police officers that called me and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you cool with this dude? Yeah, because he just know
Speaker 1: we're picking him up Detroit the whole Like I feel like,
Speaker 1: I know, you still get people that come in there
Speaker 1: and like just you know, but that's fine. I I
Speaker 1: ain't worried about you. The point is you're there and
Speaker 1: you haven't thought to try to find me, and somebody
Speaker 1: is only your ass already. But every my god, but
Speaker 1: you you're a cool niggah. Let us. Wouldn't it hit
Speaker 1: you up? I don't understand that. But let me ask
Speaker 1: you by let me ask you. But because it's setting
Speaker 1: a life long question right now, a drake chance question.
Speaker 1: This This is a code everybody, everybody, you made the
Speaker 1: phrase yes, that was better yes eight yes when first
Speaker 1: presented that you yes, because I've heard you saying I've
Speaker 1: heard it's been thrown around, but seeing you say it
Speaker 1: in that fix screen, on the f X screen, I
Speaker 1: just think I said, you wait in a minute, I
Speaker 1: need to ask this. So L comes to you. Now,
Speaker 1: he didn't come to me. We just come from Cali. Okay,
Speaker 1: he was little plane. Okay, I mean that was going
Speaker 1: back to in New York I or something. We can
Speaker 1: see here my seat here clearly first class class. So
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out the name for the album.
Speaker 1: So we're going back and forth with names. So then
Speaker 1: he said he his last name. I remember, he said
Speaker 1: General Columbey. I don't know who the hell that is.
Speaker 1: When he said that, he was yeah. So he said
Speaker 1: that everybody knew I played ball. I'm a ballplayer. So
Speaker 1: one of my idols is earl to go, man go.
Speaker 1: So then I said, but that was what he was
Speaker 1: using the no he said. I him say, mohamma, I'll
Speaker 1: be the greatest time. But one thing he did say,
Speaker 1: he did say he breathing and said greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: He did say that, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: when I know, oh said that said when I said
Speaker 1: the goat, I said, yo, you go. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, come an go And then he broke down,
Speaker 1: he broke down the letters. He said rap, you know,
Speaker 1: so he was gonna let rap and then he came
Speaker 1: with the goat, you know. And then when I came
Speaker 1: in the building, you know how I go. You go
Speaker 1: to to the president is like yo, just the name
Speaker 1: of the album. So then you know your boy Jaz
Speaker 1: got niggers like scrapping seat was what was the because
Speaker 1: he called us off the goat, so a lot of
Speaker 1: rappers was mad. I mean he talked about it. I'm
Speaker 1: like the niggas man, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: we we you do go, bro, you do go? Now
Speaker 1: another thing you said the thing hold on gonna cut you. Okay.
Speaker 1: I want to tell people how men you met ship man.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna the old niggers man, I don't know
Speaker 1: you forget ship tell you how we met my little
Speaker 1: man in a wheel chair. He moved in your side. Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I've got two guys over there. Came over there and
Speaker 1: now you was I know, huh And I said, he said,
Speaker 1: And you can't mean you had a staring match. Okay.
Speaker 1: We just looked at each other like like on some ship.
Speaker 1: But we're ready. You're ready by yourself. He walked up
Speaker 1: by yourself and he was right. You know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, he was like, yo, no, no, no, he good.
Speaker 1: But you know he told you, but he good, and
Speaker 1: we we squashed. Yeah, I remember that day. But you
Speaker 1: don't let me just tell you something. This is this
Speaker 1: is something that touched me. Pause was when because I
Speaker 1: didn't know how much you deserve to be in death Chad,
Speaker 1: Like I thought just just the gangster, just being hired, right,
Speaker 1: but when you said how deep you was in the
Speaker 1: game where Tina Davis actually you said this is you
Speaker 1: actually names to say that you got always next week
Speaker 1: Gay actually named her name. You said Tina Davis and
Speaker 1: then you said you went in her office and tell
Speaker 1: your face. He said, yeah, I don't want you to
Speaker 1: have these artists, Like how you had these other artists. Yea,
Speaker 1: was that the first time? Like that's the industry ship,
Speaker 1: this industry one on one. You know what's crazy? Me
Speaker 1: and Tina had a great relationship. Like I go to
Speaker 1: a crib. I don't smoke weed. I go to cribit
Speaker 1: smoke weed. Because she came from l A. She had
Speaker 1: nobody through family, so you know, I became a family.
Speaker 1: So I come to a crib, I'm her room, me
Speaker 1: and smoking you. No, no sexual nothing, none of that.
Speaker 1: Mem just cool because you choose, you know, shoot the bass.
Speaker 1: Sheoos my boss. So mean, they got real tight. We
Speaker 1: go to the shoot to follow a movie dinner. You know,
Speaker 1: we do a lot of things together. So one day
Speaker 1: on du the West coast, I flew to the first
Speaker 1: coast first and then mean they'll see back in the
Speaker 1: chin chain or sunset. We we're doing because we're just meeting.
Speaker 1: So we're going through our things with or he said,
Speaker 1: we gotta go to Florida the Circle House. So we're
Speaker 1: little Circle House in Florida, and dumb said, Yo, my nigga,
Speaker 1: you don't want us to work together something like huh,
Speaker 1: so by surprise. So now I'll get back to New York.
Speaker 1: I go to Kenna Lives. I call, I should Tina
Speaker 1: tell my artists you didn't want to work with me?
Speaker 1: He said, Yo're gonna work that album. I go to Tina, Tina,
Speaker 1: what are you telling artists that you want to work
Speaker 1: with me? Now? Tina says, you ain't gonna have him
Speaker 1: where you got? Anybody on the label said the documentary.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand what you mean by that. But everybody,
Speaker 1: like everybody in my background, but they've seen the records
Speaker 1: I'm putting out. And then he was busting that so
Speaker 1: Zeka douse the whole album, and I got caught out
Speaker 1: there because I went to Leo they give me a
Speaker 1: point on every album, right and and and he's I said, yo,
Speaker 1: I didn't get no extra money. Chi is gonna platinum
Speaker 1: ship is and me, he said, you gotta do a
Speaker 1: diamond to get money off these albums with the pointible diamond,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, for me to get some
Speaker 1: extra money. And I'm like, fuck, the only one doing
Speaker 1: the white people. You don't mean, I'm not you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So so um so boom so kep
Speaker 1: kep almost going to meetings the l A I l
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm not going back there.
Speaker 1: Else didn't give me your worth anyway. So so I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna work. Yeah, But my point is, like,
Speaker 1: was that the first time you felt like, oh this
Speaker 1: this is not the streets. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because you know like that that ship is kind of
Speaker 1: standard in the industry. Just look at you, slight in
Speaker 1: your face, and as soon as you turn around like
Speaker 1: in the like on the streets, that's violation. But like
Speaker 1: that that was my biggest transition, was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: can't I can't strangle everybody that, you know what I mean? Like, so,
Speaker 1: what's that their first industry moment it was. It was
Speaker 1: it was like really beginning because when I come from
Speaker 1: really the trench, and so I'm being around you, you
Speaker 1: you're you know how to pipe down, You're not just
Speaker 1: sit back and just you know, be quiet, you know,
Speaker 1: watch the bullshit? Would you like? But no, ones don't
Speaker 1: come near you know what I mean? But you like,
Speaker 1: but you gotta take it. I'm in meetings, this guy
Speaker 1: talking on the term, this girl talking, he's just looking
Speaker 1: at old him, Mike. But you even when I see Kaza,
Speaker 1: he would say to me, like, I know, you get
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You're not supposed to know. But Jack said, like, heyitian,
Speaker 1: Jack said, you ain't supposed to know. So I'm not
Speaker 1: coming in here and want some bullshit. I know. Also,
Speaker 1: this table, we're all black ball already. Shure, we're coming
Speaker 1: to building. Like how you just said you just said
Speaker 1: that you street you you know what I mean? You mean?
Speaker 1: You mean that's how we always been a question. Let
Speaker 1: me let me ask you this, because this is just
Speaker 1: some real that ship. Like when you're talking about the
Speaker 1: industry and something about the streets. Right, most of the
Speaker 1: people that's in there, they used the streets inside of
Speaker 1: the building. So how do you not how do you
Speaker 1: not handle them that way when you know where they
Speaker 1: really come from? But you know what they really turned into.
Speaker 1: I left up in there one time inside it, I
Speaker 1: was so goddamn mad at a bullshit that they was doing.
Speaker 1: And I called somebody or Uncle Tom, and they everybody
Speaker 1: at the table turned down. You should have seen her.
Speaker 1: They looked at me. They was pisan and it's just
Speaker 1: where it happened, and you and I stood up. They
Speaker 1: was heated, Dad, Why would you say that the funking
Speaker 1: mean while would I say that? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like this bitch asked niggas No, but this is what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do to me. But you know what they
Speaker 1: want you to do, and you are actually come in
Speaker 1: my face and trying to pacify me when I know
Speaker 1: what time it is. So how do you ignore something
Speaker 1: like that when you know where they came from, you
Speaker 1: know how they're plane you, You know what they're hired
Speaker 1: to come and appease you, to try to shut you
Speaker 1: down and slow you down. And it became bad because
Speaker 1: me being a woman that came in there soon. I
Speaker 1: came in there first. They didn't know they didn't put
Speaker 1: two and two together that office his big sister. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't too recently. I didn't because you both left
Speaker 1: a separate like they like, let's say that's just separate word.
Speaker 1: That's like me and I want to from queens so
Speaker 1: I know her story and just like that, just make
Speaker 1: it on top like the that's like I want together
Speaker 1: yea in the film. And it was different, different when
Speaker 1: I went into the building because they would then say
Speaker 1: that's bad me sa after while because the first time
Speaker 1: I bucked up in there when we're talking about in
Speaker 1: the car, first time I bucked up in there, Todd,
Speaker 1: I ain't got gotdamn problem saying that, nobody about to
Speaker 1: start doing it. But he started his bullshit. And that's
Speaker 1: when I flipped that, you know what I'm saying, that
Speaker 1: they knew, and that's and they brought him up like
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's his system, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But we're different people were different people, you know, so
Speaker 1: and it was just it was just crazy and different theirs.
Speaker 1: When Okay, we gotta get up a body here, we
Speaker 1: gotta move away from everybody. We gotta do it because
Speaker 1: you can't play with me. When it came to me
Speaker 1: and like, did one of these things, like he just
Speaker 1: signed over on this and we do this and this
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give you. Is it harder because like
Speaker 1: at whole point you had you had like the three
Speaker 1: artists you discovered, the three biggest one three of the
Speaker 1: biggest artists. We could have a Gucci, Nikki and French, Right,
Speaker 1: Is it harder because you're a woman or see, I
Speaker 1: know I never looked at it like that. You have
Speaker 1: to understand, even if you listen to me, I didn't
Speaker 1: run with women. I had women that I was around.
Speaker 1: Like if you tell some of them, they're gonna look
Speaker 1: at you, each one of them and tell you something different.
Speaker 1: Like I learned the amount of lives that I lived,
Speaker 1: and I've learned that how it was being the multiple
Speaker 1: people that I was. It was, It's really really crazy.
Speaker 1: I hung out with man, I did a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: I was right behind him and ship and he didn't
Speaker 1: even know stuff that was going on with some of
Speaker 1: them niggas, and the stuff that I niggas was coming
Speaker 1: to me. She told Prince one day killed my brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is on you killed my brother, you know what?
Speaker 1: My love Prince that's my nigga. But you talking about
Speaker 1: killing my brother. My nigga is on. I framed out
Speaker 1: through the streets, like you know what they need? What
Speaker 1: she did. She didn't even know that step him when
Speaker 1: he was coming for him. I went to him because
Speaker 1: that came to me with him. Yeah, this is another
Speaker 1: thing that's so crazy. But even when you say crazy,
Speaker 1: what'st But this is another thing that's like so ill
Speaker 1: that when you're doing all of this stuff, like even
Speaker 1: in this music industry, like you're talking about l A,
Speaker 1: you talk about the try to talking about the landing,
Speaker 1: to about New York, you're talking about going into the States.
Speaker 1: I remember, like especially with Gucci because you know everybody
Speaker 1: name mother wanted to hit his ass. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I remember we was in the airport
Speaker 1: and I'm going down the escalator because it was so crazy.
Speaker 1: This is down the airputus F that ship. We go
Speaker 1: to New York tomorrow or whatever. But I get a
Speaker 1: phone call and it said, Yo, you got them on
Speaker 1: DOTTA out of your flight is DOTTA data You coming
Speaker 1: into data da da da And they come inside. Just
Speaker 1: got the call and they said they had to hold
Speaker 1: up your sisters with him, But you put on something,
Speaker 1: my nigga, you know where I come from. You just
Speaker 1: didn't know who I was. You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and you went to put this order out on him.
Speaker 1: But the phone call came to Queens, letting my other
Speaker 1: brother know, your sisters coming in and this is what
Speaker 1: they're doing, he said, devils in the airport right now,
Speaker 1: coming over where to let you know. Now we're making
Speaker 1: a call. Now this whole thing could have backed up
Speaker 1: and backfy on you because we held that kind of
Speaker 1: weight like that, and it's like that, what's up? Like
Speaker 1: once I called them like are you serious? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you don't know, but that's the
Speaker 1: order because we didn't go through Burrows. We just didn't
Speaker 1: go through Manhattan to do something. And I ran everywhere.
Speaker 1: I was in multiple games when I came up. I
Speaker 1: was in multiple games. Even when the fight was I
Speaker 1: could sit in there on the bench watching everybody's fight
Speaker 1: against each other because it was cold. How many jackets
Speaker 1: did I have? Okay, I was cool with everyone, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I was in a bunch
Speaker 1: of different things. I ain't a real click person. Yeah, Jackie,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. It was crazy like the stuff
Speaker 1: that I was doing, all the different things, but I
Speaker 1: never went somewhere like even in the like I feel
Speaker 1: like the president of the United States, and I'll come
Speaker 1: into Chroit the way they come to the airport to
Speaker 1: come get me, the way that they are there. I
Speaker 1: get crazy loving to try to love to Detroit Airport though, Yeah, airport,
Speaker 1: that's what gotta be. The Harvest Airport. You gotta. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you got a lot of persons know that you're there.
Speaker 1: That's like, I can't go into his city and put
Speaker 1: something together that he's doing. It's just the scheport. I'm
Speaker 1: checking it. I don't think checking it. I don't think
Speaker 1: checking in anything. I don't think that's I think that
Speaker 1: the words in the ste comes with me and don't
Speaker 1: we don't check. Maybe if you're going you're saying, just
Speaker 1: say it's the word check the people think you know,
Speaker 1: the word check in seems dominant and make people think
Speaker 1: you know, like you have to like they pauns. But yes,
Speaker 1: check out a pencil and pat and take notes because
Speaker 1: we're gonna take you back to school and hope that
Speaker 1: you get educated with this. This ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with that. I don't care about answering to somebody
Speaker 1: that I need this. Queens is the biggest birl, right, Queezy.
Speaker 1: I used to break down Queens like the busses and
Speaker 1: the trains because we're we're all the trains left for
Speaker 1: a Queens Bridge, a story of what'side. But then as
Speaker 1: a part you get the Bosons worter board. You only
Speaker 1: take the dollar vaans or the buses. So that's how
Speaker 1: I break down Queens. I'm dyslexic, right, so I see
Speaker 1: the queezing of the buzzer. And at one point, going
Speaker 1: to South Jamaica, you just couldn't go the side to
Speaker 1: making us had a friend, you couldn't go to Fort Cross,
Speaker 1: you couldn't go to Basie. I had to have my
Speaker 1: friend or my cousins or my uncle or somebody, and
Speaker 1: I had to hit them. And there was nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. But it was everything that was going on
Speaker 1: over there. It was organized and then and being organized,
Speaker 1: it was also protected. You understand what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: was on all sides because we was on the north
Speaker 1: side and the south side. We came from both sides.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying side Corona too, right, Um,
Speaker 1: but Corona was really me. Wow, Corona was me, Like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that I didn't Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like like I did a lot of stuff in Corona.
Speaker 1: But it's like literally we could go everywhere. And then
Speaker 1: we had a sister that was international, Like she was everywhere.
Speaker 1: It is a movie about your family. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: she was. She was everywhere your family. It was Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a crazy how it was. But
Speaker 1: it was the corruption that we were still under because
Speaker 1: you have to understand, and it was multicultural. We know.
Speaker 1: It was great because, like you just said, we had
Speaker 1: a movie. I had like five sisters. You know, one
Speaker 1: night I'm gonna Chris, Mike Tyson is being on window
Speaker 1: pass to get it off. Yeah, Mike Tyson's being on
Speaker 1: the window for one of my sisters stopped right there.
Speaker 1: Hold on, this is Mike Tyxon. Tyson not like coming
Speaker 1: up like nothing. He's coming up. He's like champion. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But my sisters they're so wild
Speaker 1: and crazy they won't need anything. Bug out. They don't
Speaker 1: want Mike Tyson, they don't want DMC, they don't want
Speaker 1: David Eons who played George, Tom and DC made music
Speaker 1: and my mother's living room right and right side with
Speaker 1: his big forty eight old eight hundred. You look like
Speaker 1: the fourth memo. See at my point, don't you know?
Speaker 1: It's crazy Leo Cohen. He's kicking me and current Me
Speaker 1: and Hurricane on the tour to d because he's fighting
Speaker 1: every day every single went to hear every single we
Speaker 1: went to be four every we just one time. We
Speaker 1: we just do do like I found what's the road
Speaker 1: manager that Yeah he's man. He was the carriage suitcases.
Speaker 1: They're looking at him to that. So this dude he
Speaker 1: threw like like a thud, will change that run run
Speaker 1: performing like he and dudes due change on the stage
Speaker 1: that run change no change like quarters Dymonds. Yeah, disrespectful.
Speaker 1: So so me and King I got the right side,
Speaker 1: King left side, So so run look at you know,
Speaker 1: to the mic like that see him and we're like
Speaker 1: we got him right, So we so he an audience.
Speaker 1: So now to dude, throw some more change. Me and
Speaker 1: Hurricanes run acrourd stage diving audience. Get them we do
Speaker 1: we gotta do. Now we're dragging them out right. So
Speaker 1: now I got his legs. Hurricane got his top. He's out.
Speaker 1: We knocked him out in Amy. So we're dragging him
Speaker 1: out to Mookie and Garfield. That got the geld. So
Speaker 1: Mook and Garfield they said, yo, let him go, bive me,
Speaker 1: letm go, let him go. Let them go right, So
Speaker 1: now they were l L thing with us. We're running them.
Speaker 1: See l J was on the toy too. So um
Speaker 1: I said, away, how crazy? It just crazy. He's saying
Speaker 1: it like it's like ship you know, even like but
Speaker 1: like it's like I told Kane, I said, drop his legs.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop. I'm gonna you know. He didn't drop
Speaker 1: his legs. I dropped the nick on his head. It
Speaker 1: was the boom. So now four days later, I'm getting
Speaker 1: to that. All right, Yeah, let's taketh But for people
Speaker 1: to take notes, who's supposed to checking? No? What it
Speaker 1: cheaches you listen. One of the things that happens as
Speaker 1: this go on, after years go on, the history changes
Speaker 1: because they changed the history. Okay, if apartment, because you're
Speaker 1: gon put it like this, I checked in with you
Speaker 1: coming here. I would call you every time I came here.
Speaker 1: You had to win the ecstasy. Let's say how check
Speaker 1: that literally checking ain't got but you're getting you get.
Speaker 1: Guy gonna check expecting expect respect. It's really respect about
Speaker 1: I want to have you somebody that sucking from there.
Speaker 1: Yet I'm saying that it's relatable because the thing about
Speaker 1: it is if I don't know nobody there, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I did in this place is and
Speaker 1: I'd love to say this place, this place, And dudes
Speaker 1: who don't Germany you love that place, literally don't. They've
Speaker 1: never met, they've never been, have been in the office.
Speaker 1: They don't know what the hell they say, but they're
Speaker 1: just you kind of make your crew. So when you're comfortable,
Speaker 1: you can live in the same way everywhere you gowhere
Speaker 1: out nothing the work stage. We go to what country?
Speaker 1: He needs to hunt right because he wants to go
Speaker 1: straight to the hood. Every time I go somewhere, I
Speaker 1: did just go straight there. I need to see what's
Speaker 1: going on in your city. I need to know who
Speaker 1: was who and what's happening there. You have to understand
Speaker 1: that even for me as the woman and what they
Speaker 1: were so upset about, Nigga, what y'all to understand the
Speaker 1: streets had me that was good to them and they
Speaker 1: say good to me, I didn't ackle. I didn't know
Speaker 1: them because I remember where I came from. I don't
Speaker 1: never forget where I come from, because I could always
Speaker 1: go back there. Everything that goes up comes down, and
Speaker 1: everything and everybody has an expliration. Date You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I want to be able to go
Speaker 1: wherever I can go and be the same person. If
Speaker 1: you see me in a dollar tree, don't ask me
Speaker 1: what the hell I'm doing in there? What the hell
Speaker 1: you're doing in there? I'm doing what you're doing. Don't
Speaker 1: actually that you see me a warm I speak to me.
Speaker 1: Don't see me like I'm some kind of free and
Speaker 1: you got me looking at me saying, damn, what happened?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's something with my weird
Speaker 1: cricket and something happen. They're like, what's going on in
Speaker 1: this stitch? Like you Cras, I ain't think you would
Speaker 1: be up in here, But what job you got thinking?
Speaker 1: This is a question for all of y'all. I'm ready
Speaker 1: for a shot after that thing. It's a question do
Speaker 1: y'all realize that y'all are celebrities too? Like? Yo, that's
Speaker 1: not a celebration time. Now, celebrity is about celebration to me,
Speaker 1: and what do you celebrate? I'm not ready to celebrate.
Speaker 1: I don't what does that mean? What I mean is
Speaker 1: this people who want to be you once? That is
Speaker 1: this person that want to be you. You're a celebrity,
Speaker 1: like when this this this girl somewhere, Um, that's that's
Speaker 1: gonna say. Now I'm gonna do a girl shot and
Speaker 1: do a girl shots. I'm gonna do a girl You
Speaker 1: could not disrespect that. God didn't drink on camera. Don't
Speaker 1: mr Dad drink you check out. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1: You just say I was gonna take it as a
Speaker 1: show out. You can't shot that drinking. Drink drink drink,
Speaker 1: get it all day. Don't hurt that way. Drink drinking down,
Speaker 1: drink your hole sho drink the whole shot. No, but
Speaker 1: get you. I'm just saying, you cannot disrespect little true.
Speaker 1: You've been understanding my mixed. He took it as the
Speaker 1: poor the ship but mixing. I don't know about the same.
Speaker 1: But its don't stay with him holding shot like that ship,
Speaker 1: hold on that shot. Don't you don't do that. I
Speaker 1: got a shot. I doesn't love a shot. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't listen to do what you don't know what that says.
Speaker 1: I know what it is you bought shot. Use even
Speaker 1: speak to off shows about giving people their flowers when
Speaker 1: they alive. So many people they're getting this game ten
Speaker 1: years or more and they say that they washed up,
Speaker 1: and they say that they We want to push the
Speaker 1: narrative against that. When we got tim ears or more
Speaker 1: in this game. You want to say you seasoned. That's right,
Speaker 1: you understand saying you well broomed. And we want to
Speaker 1: salute your all for y'all. I'm a fan of all
Speaker 1: y'all individuality. Like I said, I can't believe and to y'all,
Speaker 1: but I still love it. But I knew you to
Speaker 1: understand something because I can't let you go just OK.
Speaker 1: You said how easy we was not that's the good
Speaker 1: thing about it. I'm still a mother hen and I'm
Speaker 1: still everything. You paid for him, came for him, came
Speaker 1: for him, and you checked him about what he wants
Speaker 1: to mixtures drink. No, you're missing the stip. This is
Speaker 1: what I missed o the stuff. And now I told
Speaker 1: him to pull me a shot. But what I was
Speaker 1: gonna do is take shots at asa space, which is
Speaker 1: not really a shot. He was. He was doing something right.
Speaker 1: I had to get Jack. Should do it. Y'all better
Speaker 1: make sure you getting Jeff. Jeff. Remember I tell you,
Speaker 1: don't go and punishment. Be nice, be nice. I love you.
Speaker 1: I love you. I gotta wanted ahead of time. He
Speaker 1: what's up with it? Guys? Don't put them check together. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take over the world when you come back.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Let's go Jack, you man, salute, I said,
Speaker 1: salute Dad. You can't hit me. Yeah, let me get
Speaker 1: some more? All right, all right, yeah, you're go ahead. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what's up? That's all okay? You literally
Speaker 1: have enough time. You're like Dominican father got damn and
Speaker 1: she looked. Just then we got the mom want to
Speaker 1: hear here put it. That's what I was to one
Speaker 1: more thing. Okay, that's one. Give hers by the flowers
Speaker 1: wide here, right. I tried this funny, but you did
Speaker 1: not pull this drink from me. No, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: care because somebody could y'all spit to that. Somebody could
Speaker 1: think you put my drink and you did. Now you
Speaker 1: just took a shot from me. So I gotta get
Speaker 1: to hell. I got correctly. Yeah, we take out, they're
Speaker 1: not taking off. I got you, I got you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Jack is Alory? Man? Just watch your show?
Speaker 1: What's up? Baby up? I just watched your show. Man.
Speaker 1: Let me actually real quick, because you know you're the
Speaker 1: only one that's not here. But what made you want
Speaker 1: to do the show? Period? Well? You know, and you're
Speaker 1: calling me a couple of times on it, and uh,
Speaker 1: he told me it was gonna be seven different special
Speaker 1: But at the time I was as something else. I
Speaker 1: was gonna gonna gonna do so but Big you convinced.
Speaker 1: He said, listen, man, this is only gonna help whatever
Speaker 1: you're gonna do down the line. And I'm glad I
Speaker 1: listened to him and took in his fights and did
Speaker 1: this person, because now it's fulfilled me to other things.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. So was that definitely glad
Speaker 1: He stayed on top of me and man made me
Speaker 1: do this. You know it was It was the right move. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got another question for you too. Now. In the
Speaker 1: in the documentary, you addressed the TUPAC situation for the
Speaker 1: first time, the first time ever, you actually addressed the situation.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everyone always wanted to know
Speaker 1: that and was that tough for you or that was
Speaker 1: something that it felt good after got it off your chest. Listen,
Speaker 1: I always wanted to tell a story. The problem is this,
Speaker 1: You'll never be able to change TUPOC fans minds on
Speaker 1: whatever Pox says. It's almost like the Trump fans that
Speaker 1: still believe he won the presidential race. You feel me,
Speaker 1: but I need. The thing about it is this the
Speaker 1: ny actually ribbed and shot Pop is on YouTube telling
Speaker 1: niggas he did it. You feel me, but they don't
Speaker 1: want it, and they don't want that to be the guy.
Speaker 1: Can't be the guy. You know, people believe what they
Speaker 1: want to believe. You couldn't stop them from believe. I
Speaker 1: know that he did it, not that I said them,
Speaker 1: but I know he did it because the hood, you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: everything goes down, who did what right? So they don't
Speaker 1: want to listen to him because he didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Jack was so my thing. Anybody will know me like
Speaker 1: a contold him the other day. If I do something
Speaker 1: to you right, I will tell you I didn't you
Speaker 1: understand because I don't care about what another nigga want
Speaker 1: to do in these streets because we can go head up.
Speaker 1: All you gotta do suit up and I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Then you do. But as long as the statue of
Speaker 1: limitation ran out and I don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: the law, I'll tell the world I did it. And
Speaker 1: I'm still telling you I didn't do it and I
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. Now this is the
Speaker 1: last question. It's the last question because I know you
Speaker 1: know you remotely? Um, did you really have Madonna? Jerk
Speaker 1: Chicken and Flatbush? Yeah, right next to to the comedy
Speaker 1: club right liket on to a seventeen and Lendon. We
Speaker 1: went on over listen Madonna as a real chick dog.
Speaker 1: She's not afraid to go on no hood. She's out
Speaker 1: because one of my partners squeezed the ass and U
Speaker 1: and Manhattan Brother she said, Hey, what are your buddies
Speaker 1: over that squeeze my ass? He's alive. Oh that's doesn't phase.
Speaker 1: We're going what yo, yo, Well, respect hasan jack. We're
Speaker 1: giving you your flowers. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know what? We were walking around and come see you
Speaker 1: in Dominican will public drink chats Man. We won't let
Speaker 1: you know, baby, respect, respect my brother. All right? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, So that goes. That's the perfect alley you
Speaker 1: to you in another world. In another world, you're hazy.
Speaker 1: Jack might have not been cool. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why. I'm gonna tell you why you got those
Speaker 1: two You got those two records lined up. I wanted this.
Speaker 1: I made these just. I mean it to everybody. But
Speaker 1: I want you to two records real cract what has
Speaker 1: made me look crazy? So if you had to shit
Speaker 1: lined up? Look, we got gettle ass because it's all
Speaker 1: okay everyone, so we all yeah, that's something right here.
Speaker 1: You still that's something right there? Yeah, that's that's good.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait no no no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no the second way that yeah good. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: all blue ship. Yeah this because this is this is
Speaker 1: a great question I need at This is one of
Speaker 1: the room. This is the same person I want you
Speaker 1: to hear. She was not that all right, we're looking
Speaker 1: almost okay, bottom right the bottom. Yeah, it's pretty I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at that. But I was listening to Jack, right,
Speaker 1: and we all go through the same ship, man, we
Speaker 1: go through it. When when when the end of that
Speaker 1: is so powerful now with ignorance music kind of get
Speaker 1: that cripple up. I ain't gonna lie. I'll trade you.
Speaker 1: I'll trade you. Let me let me smoke down with character.
Speaker 1: You guys do it trade hell even I don't even
Speaker 1: know what's got good weading that ship, but I don't
Speaker 1: just try. You want the blunt to see that practice.
Speaker 1: I see that. You see that blue smoke. I like
Speaker 1: that BSM hat like that. Then chrish papers, but you
Speaker 1: see that blue smoke because yeah, paper so you I'm
Speaker 1: starting to get a little activated with this fight. We
Speaker 1: don't make fire by stuff when you can fight it out.
Speaker 1: I just got started. Yeah, because y'all besting up the
Speaker 1: fight that blue paper man blue smoke. But now let's
Speaker 1: just gets say because I always want to say this right,
Speaker 1: and it's just feeding up with Jackson. The ignorance is
Speaker 1: the ignorance on the internet is so so crazy and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even feed into it. But like we were
Speaker 1: just talking, thank you jacking some ship than accuse me
Speaker 1: they've been in the accused me of media never really
Speaker 1: brought to it, just the social media, and this is
Speaker 1: like a social media platform. A motherfucker could be in
Speaker 1: jail for something, had a reason why he did it.
Speaker 1: But the bookie man got me, did you like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's staying in the game from it? Go deal with
Speaker 1: the people who's standing in the game from it from
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's who got his bag? Who take care of
Speaker 1: his perse? Who doing a whole life? What about that? Motherfuckers?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? How do I you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? My man came and got me when
Speaker 1: he when he got on, when he got it, he
Speaker 1: gave me me popular he was the first one before,
Speaker 1: he was the first want to bring me into the music.
Speaker 1: But he didn't corrupt. And then and then when it
Speaker 1: went from there, did I went to prison? Do when
Speaker 1: I was doing and and and with me? While Jack
Speaker 1: is and what niggas is so funny and Jack don't
Speaker 1: tell the story. We couldn't get the story in To
Speaker 1: add the jatt Jack was in l A up in
Speaker 1: to two thousand fourteen. He says it on the documentary,
Speaker 1: Oh I know you know, no no, but he not.
Speaker 1: It's not really said. So all the l A niggers
Speaker 1: need to realize this niggas was. This nigga was in
Speaker 1: l A to two thousand fourteen. Running one of the
Speaker 1: biggest dives in l A when niggas had to pay
Speaker 1: to come to I'm gonna say that against what's the
Speaker 1: do your bar? Yeah, I'm trying. He was running. He
Speaker 1: was running. He was running um out the Marina two
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen. I come home with two thousand four The
Speaker 1: men was on ten years. I didn't even know it,
Speaker 1: not never met pocket. All of that was like I
Speaker 1: said that hold running death rold Wrue. I was gone.
Speaker 1: I left the nineteen ninety one and then people always
Speaker 1: talking about I got about two tho two tho four,
Speaker 1: two th four. So you gotta remember when I said
Speaker 1: that about shig shook in the in the in the
Speaker 1: whole death Road moment was after the riots. After the riots,
Speaker 1: there was a peace treaty movement that everybody is any
Speaker 1: starting letting people going places. Before that, it was my
Speaker 1: world and I'm missing you want and I want to
Speaker 1: know no money ship like other niggles was getting money.
Speaker 1: I already was getting I was getting money, and I
Speaker 1: was getting paid by everything in the city. Darn me.
Speaker 1: If they was getting money. So if he was getting money,
Speaker 1: he was already getting the bag. He just paying me
Speaker 1: ten thousands of money? Was who you hold anybody for? This?
Speaker 1: Are okay? From the react Listen to both of these
Speaker 1: brackets with quick oh um, I wanted to add a
Speaker 1: whole record and because oh this gouffing it stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a just man say, it's the first time
Speaker 1: we did this kind of work. But this is is
Speaker 1: a question I need ask. This is this little you
Speaker 1: see how it's like a little for time? How you
Speaker 1: can be atographic you've been as got that? How kid
Speaker 1: this artist? Are you ready for the next record? Make
Speaker 1: sure you lined up this time? Man? It made me
Speaker 1: bunked up? How did this artists make this wack? I
Speaker 1: was my art part the other day. I'm jogging on
Speaker 1: like it. But I was jogging the other day and
Speaker 1: my art part pay he's back to back and I
Speaker 1: said this, this is crazy. Listen to this is I
Speaker 1: told something. You're right and you're gonna stand how you
Speaker 1: know y'all, but not this. Something happen this, If something
Speaker 1: happens to you, I don't gonna fuck who what win?
Speaker 1: Where A nigga's gonna turn you against everything until you
Speaker 1: get to understand pin point black, I'm not even trying
Speaker 1: to understand what the funk happened? And I'm really not
Speaker 1: even caring if you had something to do with it,
Speaker 1: you ain't turning again. But farther the certain fuck you too, huh?
Speaker 1: And I mean, and now I got I got some
Speaker 1: niggas who gonna ride with me? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got this nigga I'm still like in real life
Speaker 1: tupacas a California guy. No, but but no, he came
Speaker 1: up an open Yeah. Yeah, it was his he's me
Speaker 1: to the whole show up the way he wrote down Louie, y'all,
Speaker 1: it's so low y'all niggas that can't break it down
Speaker 1: here if I still he was just yeah, Skelly, you
Speaker 1: know what kind of new y'all nidias from what is
Speaker 1: you've been to twenty years? People know what it is like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but hold hold on it. In l A can tell
Speaker 1: me about l AN. I don't know l A this
Speaker 1: right round this l An tell me about restaurants and days, say, nigga,
Speaker 1: come meet me at this studio and meet me at
Speaker 1: this place. And I'm like, where the fund is that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's real talk. But then that don't mean
Speaker 1: they know NIGGAO. It's niggas in l A right now
Speaker 1: that's claiming the fame of other niggas ship. But then
Speaker 1: there's real things in l A who really should be
Speaker 1: getting that and they don't get it. Bring me back
Speaker 1: to this show right here, Bring me back to the show.
Speaker 1: These people right here. I could have put a whole
Speaker 1: lot of people on this show, but I need to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to think it. Who's filthy rich, It
Speaker 1: don't fit the storyline. I need the nigga who lost something.
Speaker 1: I need them, motherfucker who like her. I need kills,
Speaker 1: I need tricks, I need to nigga. I want to
Speaker 1: tell the I together I need. But no, no, look
Speaker 1: at this, chill Okay. This is the first time in
Speaker 1: history you have the East coast to west coast, the Nigwest,
Speaker 1: the South. You have four respaces on one because the
Speaker 1: South to Yeah, but you have to look at this.
Speaker 1: We're all the same people, all these same things that
Speaker 1: we had common denominators. That that's why I say, check
Speaker 1: out a princil and Paddy Chick. No, because even when
Speaker 1: my son when what was looking at us and he
Speaker 1: broke this thing down to me, like my kids are
Speaker 1: my son's even though they knew I did things, but
Speaker 1: they didn't know what I did. I had to prepare
Speaker 1: them for a lot of things also because they didn't
Speaker 1: know what the hell I did, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They just knew that there were some things going on,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, That mother was rugging or whatever,
Speaker 1: But they just didn't know because the child was to
Speaker 1: be seen and not heard. But all of us, all
Speaker 1: of us are saying, let me brand this to you
Speaker 1: when I come home. Right now, I remember, I get
Speaker 1: out of prison two thousand four. I just did three
Speaker 1: years and nine months in the California shoot. That's the
Speaker 1: that's the that's that's the whole, that's the whole lot
Speaker 1: of I don't got nothing him Pop, I don't know him, Pop,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that you in the
Speaker 1: hole because of who you are. Shot demo on somebody
Speaker 1: on New York. He said he sees you in jail
Speaker 1: and you were just sitting there beating the niggas the
Speaker 1: same time. But let me, let me said, he was
Speaker 1: just talking to it like yeah, yeah, I described Africa.
Speaker 1: So so when I come home, when I come home
Speaker 1: in two thousand four. It's a whole world now that's
Speaker 1: just moving like this. I don't have no clue who
Speaker 1: nobody is. I don't even know who, dislike who. I
Speaker 1: don't even know like what's on woom? And Brian flopped
Speaker 1: me to New York and it's my first time in
Speaker 1: New York. And I don't know how many years Brian
Speaker 1: Prescott fly me to New York. Who come out? I'm tip,
Speaker 1: I don't know who, like who do who? Don't know Lou,
Speaker 1: I don't know who, like nobody. I'm just moving. So
Speaker 1: that's how meet Motherfucker's. But then I'm seeing all the
Speaker 1: different beasts that's going on and nas niggas just from
Speaker 1: somebody was was Lucas? Was that at that time Ta
Speaker 1: was on his way out um hip hop beats, And
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these niggas and I'm saying, all
Speaker 1: these things got these all securities, like and I was
Speaker 1: just tripping off like this thing is as basketball player?
Speaker 1: What is he really? And so I'm looking at all
Speaker 1: this ship and I'm saying to myself like I'm fresh
Speaker 1: out of prison, and I'm saying to myself, like what
Speaker 1: a hip hop? Where the thugs that what the real
Speaker 1: street niggas at that in handah, So then I'm moving
Speaker 1: along and now i'm I'm I'm looking for the real
Speaker 1: niggas in hip hop. I see a lot of things
Speaker 1: that could be gay, a lot of could be whatever. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, And I was, but but I don't find
Speaker 1: that Sugar is gone. That's my phone, Sugar is gone
Speaker 1: doing four years he's still yeah, he's still. He come
Speaker 1: on five months after I come on. But when I
Speaker 1: was home, it was a whole lot of weird ship.
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like stand office in this ship.
Speaker 1: So I with my dog for a while with ship
Speaker 1: and here you go, here I see play. We did
Speaker 1: a for like three years. Then I wouldn't gotten to
Speaker 1: start out there about your gas in pink pom, just
Speaker 1: start out there. So I was so so so now y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all still have to be from the west to the east,
Speaker 1: because even when I was going to kill my here
Speaker 1: with to New York with corround in Miami, it was
Speaker 1: still niggas who was tripping off of corruptim for what
Speaker 1: was that ship kicking up New York when he never
Speaker 1: even meant to this, y'all. I know, I know he said,
Speaker 1: you don't know that. I didn't know that after we
Speaker 1: knew can do that's my best whole friends. I know that.
Speaker 1: But back then y'all thought it was We thought it
Speaker 1: was the same way Popua. So y'all need and I'm
Speaker 1: taking you back to the park to the show you
Speaker 1: park took them. Don't learn of these go to the product.
Speaker 1: Crazy old man was only trying to show respecting this
Speaker 1: coach for a movie that dominated everything. Can you remember
Speaker 1: moved musically? We we dominated films right the West coast,
Speaker 1: We gavi we dominated the film ward like boys in
Speaker 1: the hood, dope boys, boys hood boyshoods decided all that
Speaker 1: dominant that took our culture around the world. Don't boy
Speaker 1: was based on your life, No, don't went. It was
Speaker 1: just all of us was like all of us had
Speaker 1: Jerry girls in the but it was. It was shot
Speaker 1: in the sixth He's in our neighborhood. What y'all Signton
Speaker 1: grew up at. So it was shot two blocks from
Speaker 1: my house on my big Homie Street. Like it was
Speaker 1: shouting Simaron is Simarron hash Dannass Portington where I grew
Speaker 1: up there, and it's right on the round the corner
Speaker 1: so I can walk and then me four minutes walking,
Speaker 1: I didn't find this two three minutes walking to be
Speaker 1: on the street where they shot. The whole movie was
Speaker 1: shot in our neighborhood. And the crazy thing when they
Speaker 1: shot the motherfucker. We didn't have no idea it was
Speaker 1: gonna be come nast He like asked us, do we
Speaker 1: want to be in the We have any day? Was
Speaker 1: by that movie? What are you talking about? But let
Speaker 1: me finish though, listen, so you compare that the part
Speaker 1: but y'all live part life. Okay, y'all tripped up some
Speaker 1: niggers who weren't even who was trying to say, y'all respect,
Speaker 1: I don't left okay, all right. I was the guy
Speaker 1: who did l A l A yes you are, yes
Speaker 1: you music. We thought, I don't want to load it
Speaker 1: up as I told about friends shot pay us the
Speaker 1: real stories. We didn't know, Davids this said, we didn't know,
Speaker 1: but we wanted to respond because we went so it
Speaker 1: wasn't part of the video because the video what happened
Speaker 1: They came out there and this was true. Niggas want
Speaker 1: to responding. He niggas wanted to stepping up, but listen,
Speaker 1: step he stepping up. It's after the big. We're not
Speaker 1: ret a little Big called the This is when Big
Speaker 1: said they can't be filming that here, and he called
Speaker 1: the radio and we don't know what that now, hard on,
Speaker 1: let me stop you right there again. I'm taking over
Speaker 1: the show. Okay, that's got a camera gonna happen, right, happen.
Speaker 1: So now who called one big? He did call the
Speaker 1: radio like um, So the West coast was to feel
Speaker 1: a certain kind of way. Will they be right? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: But the thing was, the thing was um and this
Speaker 1: is going was hurt. Bront was because Corrupt took so
Speaker 1: much bet because he lost all of the East Coast.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember y'all destroyed one of you destroying anybody else.
Speaker 1: Let me broke up back still, let the real story.
Speaker 1: Let me take something. After we squashed it, we squashed
Speaker 1: it once you squashed we squashed it me and you
Speaker 1: was family. Corrupt still made a record hate this Spatsy
Speaker 1: Browns after it, Brown said he made it heat this anybody,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the story. This is how I
Speaker 1: knew your motherfucker's go back to the big. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: you know, actually you want to tres n. I got you,
Speaker 1: I got you. Gotta stay on. I tell you. I
Speaker 1: just told him you heard crew up. But I don't
Speaker 1: let me just take let just say something. So after that,
Speaker 1: after we squashed it, we squashed it. This is it
Speaker 1: like when we family. Now, he flies to Philly. The
Speaker 1: plane over heats, he has to land in New York.
Speaker 1: He just this DMX, He just this rough Riders, He
Speaker 1: just this. All these do is my album released, Party Bay.
Speaker 1: He lands a hit me. I can't put this on
Speaker 1: your homie, but I'm in your city. I'm in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm about to get Philly, but I gotta call you.
Speaker 1: Picked the nigger up. That's another another time. That's a
Speaker 1: whole another time. But I've tried it. I only come
Speaker 1: to them so freeze. The only cold I had was
Speaker 1: a great red Yankee jacket. And this is what I knew.
Speaker 1: These niggers said, Nope, I think you freeze it out here.
Speaker 1: You can't do it free like no, what's gonna know?
Speaker 1: Like just what they check it on. But anyway, so
Speaker 1: he just makes his co sign this, He just makes
Speaker 1: his record. Said, cause I can't go to no New
Speaker 1: York club. After I just made this. I know I
Speaker 1: was one for making it, but I said, Yo, you
Speaker 1: with me? He said the story and I throw him
Speaker 1: to Carbon Club. I looked at like the most traitorous
Speaker 1: New York dude. That was like was the stake. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, he's with me, and that was it.
Speaker 1: That was it. I never know him. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back sweaters on the plat. Yes the fact, Yeah, now
Speaker 1: you plot. I was looking at that you made this song.
Speaker 1: I know I did not. Yeah, we made our apply
Speaker 1: that was it wasn't it didn't look at it right.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't a disk too, they acause we didn't know.
Speaker 1: But when the video came out and the buildings was
Speaker 1: kicked down, that's when we changed our video. If you
Speaker 1: listen to the song, the song has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the disk. It's just l A l A just
Speaker 1: responding what was to respond respond to what? Because that's
Speaker 1: what it was, right, But let's spart video. Let's don't.
Speaker 1: He said that Tupop was firing on the East coast.
Speaker 1: They were guess what listen. Yeah, like I was born.
Speaker 1: I was the brokest chick ever at that time. I
Speaker 1: was seeing this when here missing yeah, they w wasn't
Speaker 1: together like uh snoop, Corrupt wasn't on the same page.
Speaker 1: It was one block of Joe and they want all together.
Speaker 1: They was like it was like, yeah, yeah, we're death Robert.
Speaker 1: We ain't got no beef for ten and and and
Speaker 1: Corrupt was on his way out to do it right
Speaker 1: behind Drake at the time. So so it was really
Speaker 1: gonna be uh snoople the only want to being left
Speaker 1: on death road. There was really not together at that moment.
Speaker 1: While so when they were trying to make a song
Speaker 1: to show them that they had respect for him, they
Speaker 1: took it the other way. And this is what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get you. That's like that. But he keep
Speaker 1: to me and I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest like those that was crazy because look, not your story.
Speaker 1: I said, I said, you know, I've never I've never
Speaker 1: been in the roller seat. I got, I've never been
Speaker 1: to the actually rolling the sixties hood. And before I
Speaker 1: could even finish my thought, I said, like a corrupt,
Speaker 1: your friend, that's the hood. You went to corrupt round
Speaker 1: me through there and I ain't gonna lie. And it's
Speaker 1: eight trade next to that. Yeah, they's not it's between them.
Speaker 1: It's it's the coupling one or two sets. Right before
Speaker 1: we get there, I'm trips. It is because it's Monster.
Speaker 1: I remember reading Monster Cody's book right when I read
Speaker 1: the Ship, and then when I went to the corrector
Speaker 1: with the hood, we went to get weed or some ship,
Speaker 1: and he was like, just the sixties come and I
Speaker 1: was just like this, this is a different neighborhood. Like
Speaker 1: it's like like you know, like like the same thing
Speaker 1: being pre team, Like like what kind of is that
Speaker 1: a plus or minus? Being so notorious like that it's
Speaker 1: a gift and curse. But the thing that's so hell
Speaker 1: listening to everything you guys are saying right here, and
Speaker 1: for everybody that's going to see this right think about
Speaker 1: the amount of people's lives that could have been saved
Speaker 1: had we not reacted a certain kind of way. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's important for these stories to be told.
Speaker 1: And even for me, while I wanted, I'm thinking people
Speaker 1: they lying and they say, you don't know, damn think
Speaker 1: about me, but you've seen it. Don't be better than me.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I tell people, one day I want to meet
Speaker 1: her because I don't know who you know, I don't
Speaker 1: even know who I am, But just think about the stuff,
Speaker 1: even stuff that people might have to say about me.
Speaker 1: You don't even god damn know me, but you have
Speaker 1: all these things to say about me because of something
Speaker 1: that someone said. So now you're gonna be in agreement
Speaker 1: with them. You understand what I'm saying. So just think
Speaker 1: about the reaction to you the broken kid out of
Speaker 1: them are, because you know those are the ones that's
Speaker 1: gonna kick off first. Anyway, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I need to be seen, I need to be heard.
Speaker 1: I need somebody to know who I am. But think
Speaker 1: about all the people whose lives could still be here today,
Speaker 1: who's not locked up and in the midst of the
Speaker 1: standards of the East Coast and the West Coast fight
Speaker 1: because if we had since then, because we all know
Speaker 1: how to get money. Everybody here, we all got to
Speaker 1: get money. We came up, know how to get money.
Speaker 1: Just anybody ever told us how to keep the ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: But if we had the smarts there he said something
Speaker 1: that was in ingenius, the movies was there, the music
Speaker 1: was here. But if we had that person that could
Speaker 1: put them things together, then these people couldn't do what
Speaker 1: they do. Instead, they kept slavery there. And here's here's
Speaker 1: the thing how I summed this stuff. Every year I
Speaker 1: look to see who is going to be the house
Speaker 1: nigga this year. Okay, So they grabbed that guy whoever
Speaker 1: just coming out of jail, and he got them that sign,
Speaker 1: all of them artists. So now they get the house
Speaker 1: nigger to put the film niggers together, to shut them down,
Speaker 1: close them down so that they can work and do
Speaker 1: all the ship that they want to do. And we
Speaker 1: come in there and go and get each other with
Speaker 1: the ship. That's how the ship goes. That's all. We
Speaker 1: can't get that out of our heads. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you to keep to it. That's that's how they let
Speaker 1: me then. And I wasn't finished with Trick going to
Speaker 1: take over this because what we always roll over is
Speaker 1: what Trick was saying. We are owned by Europeans. Hip
Speaker 1: Hop is owned by Europeans who are now giving it
Speaker 1: to their kids. They're hiring their kids. They've becoming a
Speaker 1: president as a manager, and they no more than we know.
Speaker 1: And there's our life and it goes to him. It
Speaker 1: goes to him. He goes to him because like, he said,
Speaker 1: how are you telling me? How are you gonna do
Speaker 1: hip hop in my city? And you but listen to
Speaker 1: what he said though, that's what this documentary was about.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, look, let's go get the people to
Speaker 1: tell the story. She got the story to tell them
Speaker 1: about this. But we we ain't. We ain't sent thirty
Speaker 1: minutes on him. We sent thirty minutes on him because
Speaker 1: we're just passing over the fact that it's a business
Speaker 1: and we're not on the business side. What did he say?
Speaker 1: You're coming in with your radio, you bring your machine
Speaker 1: in my shit, and you ain't and ain't none of
Speaker 1: us in. You can kissing. But what I'm telling me
Speaker 1: little this, that's the whole damn thing. But I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that booty shaking song you made. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that was you all year yall together loose song. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm like, that's little way, that's that I said.
Speaker 1: I never heard that. So many jobs, that's it. That's
Speaker 1: that say. I'm like, I didn't they got it right?
Speaker 1: What's it? So you with the freaking yeah, you see
Speaker 1: these been just bouncing, all of these I hadn't make
Speaker 1: one of Yeah, that's what they're doing make some noise.
Speaker 1: Nevergor came on, and whenever reggae came on, that's no
Speaker 1: I would have lost some hundred dollars. I said, there's
Speaker 1: no way I had to cool that. I didn't trust
Speaker 1: the documentary. I said, there's no way that I made that.
Speaker 1: And then I said, only you know so this is
Speaker 1: real ship that because you that's like what I did
Speaker 1: with reggae dolls. Wa to Porter we Sei, I said,
Speaker 1: I gonna make one of all. That's when you did.
Speaker 1: Ye explained that I knew my way in had to
Speaker 1: be Yeah, boys, yeah when I get when I get,
Speaker 1: I got out a plan when I get out. But
Speaker 1: I can't come back at him, you know so? And
Speaker 1: you went gold to that did not make your think
Speaker 1: watching this documentary, just hearing a piece of it's a
Speaker 1: sentence of each person. Did it not make did it
Speaker 1: not take you back to where we started out? That?
Speaker 1: It made me? It's not. It made me feel so
Speaker 1: proud because you know what it is. They I like
Speaker 1: the word gangster because gangster doesn't mean Gangsteruff means that
Speaker 1: you take care of your family, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I grew up. I actually named it
Speaker 1: my whole company dubbed because I wanted to be that.
Speaker 1: But when I realized this, I didn't want to That
Speaker 1: wasn't the way it is. That's that's not the way.
Speaker 1: That's the other way I said have been like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I'm more happy being happy,
Speaker 1: that's real, Like I'm not really I'm more happy being happy.
Speaker 1: Before I was trying to be the other version of
Speaker 1: that happy, like alright, cool, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy. So how was it? Right?
Speaker 1: Let's just miss clipping a bounce it him and them
Speaker 1: calls you. You get described because he calls you that's
Speaker 1: coming right, running book? You got distracted? Though? It was
Speaker 1: beef what he calls him for to get on the rackets.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let's break that down. Yeah, I mean ship
Speaker 1: were he called like a cause where you're at my
Speaker 1: mom in the hood. He's like, hey, bro, I need
Speaker 1: to see you at the studio as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: That you thought you need to back him up, was
Speaker 1: like back something, Yeah, a problem, I ain't already taking
Speaker 1: care of you. His problem was my little home because
Speaker 1: Proof was in the good squad. But you right, and stop. Okay, y'all.
Speaker 1: That was Marshall was his man. That's how I met Marshall.
Speaker 1: But so when I pulled up to the studio, so
Speaker 1: he jumped in and put the CD and and it
Speaker 1: was a song Welcome to Detroit. And I thought he
Speaker 1: was just giving me a shout out of the song.
Speaker 1: I'm like, good, look, Google, man, keep listening. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: but he going in Damn trick trick. Damn said the police.
Speaker 1: He had a song. I mean, he said, he said,
Speaker 1: he called the police called on the trick trick. Holy moly,
Speaker 1: I expect the white guy that's that's so. Then you
Speaker 1: do think, he explained you. Yeah. Yeah. Then when when
Speaker 1: the verse one over, then the rest of the meeting
Speaker 1: was over, He's like, that's you right there. He said,
Speaker 1: that's my gifting you. He said, I don't publishing, I
Speaker 1: don't want nothing. He said, this is your record. You
Speaker 1: can happen. He said, I'll do the video whatever you need. Damn, damn.
Speaker 1: I was already working with this with the Homies signment
Speaker 1: wonder Boy, you know, so we had the playing. We
Speaker 1: was already in motion recording. I pulled up to the
Speaker 1: studio with that like man pulled up right now, you
Speaker 1: gotta hit this ship played the record for him and
Speaker 1: he just lost it like that. I was like, they
Speaker 1: go to bag right there. We're gonna still do it
Speaker 1: our way, but they go to bag right there. But
Speaker 1: that record was like that's that was a blessing because
Speaker 1: it took me to another side of the earth where
Speaker 1: I've never been, where they never knew, you know, who
Speaker 1: trick Trick was. And I used that to my benefits,
Speaker 1: you know, to product merchandise and marketing blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm extremely appreciative of that. What he did,
Speaker 1: that ship was a gift and a curse almost part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a curse because it was like a lot
Speaker 1: of funning. Ship was industry. Ship was happening and that
Speaker 1: in the scope universal and it was doing a lot
Speaker 1: of ship. It was like when you put it out
Speaker 1: through Motown universe were wonderful. Yeah right yeah. And the
Speaker 1: guy was you know, Silvere Ron and Eric Knicks was
Speaker 1: still fell out with my partner who was Windy Day
Speaker 1: and Windy Days, you know, Yeah, she gonna go go
Speaker 1: up against the machine the right way, you know. Man
Speaker 1: If Wendy said, it's funked up. It's fucked up, and
Speaker 1: it's SIVI and them still trying to push the button.
Speaker 1: So they still you know, they had their ship back
Speaker 1: and forth, and they put me on the same release
Speaker 1: date as Mary J. Blige and Jamie Fox when he
Speaker 1: was an R and B singer. And I was like,
Speaker 1: y'all just said this ship up there, so let me
Speaker 1: grab this bag and get the funk on. That's all,
Speaker 1: you know. But I was like, now you couldn't get
Speaker 1: back into universal system. You couldn't go back around the
Speaker 1: other way. You know what I'm saying. You know you
Speaker 1: gotta do this, But I I could say, shout, I
Speaker 1: still hear my everything was mane, did you feel a
Speaker 1: special collection to Nikki because she was from Queens and
Speaker 1: she was a girl, because she according to the documentary
Speaker 1: when I watched it, she actually moved to Atlanta because
Speaker 1: she wanted to be you needed her to move to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: She had to come. Said I'm not coming to New York.
Speaker 1: If you needed to help you, you gotta come here
Speaker 1: because I'm not coming to me. I kind of live
Speaker 1: in New York anymore. This is where I'm at. I
Speaker 1: can do whatever you need here. But I can't do
Speaker 1: this in New York, so it's not even one. Nikki
Speaker 1: is a girl that that's the first thing. And I
Speaker 1: fell in love with her, like I really did. Like
Speaker 1: listening to her and everything she told me, everything she
Speaker 1: went through. I like, you actually keeping it real. Findy
Speaker 1: find um book Gucci for a showdown in in Um Carolina.
Speaker 1: And he said, Dad, and everybody knew I wanted a girl. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just so pro female period. Anyway, I'm gonted a girl,
Speaker 1: but I just didn't want any girl. J right, yeah,
Speaker 1: And Finny said, damn, come here, come here. He said,
Speaker 1: I got the girl for you. I was like going
Speaker 1: to get your ast side and just get my damn money.
Speaker 1: Let me get out here, and he said no, I'm nah.
Speaker 1: He said, damn, just listen to this. On the way
Speaker 1: going and on the way going back to Atlanta, you know,
Speaker 1: I would put her tape in. And when I listened
Speaker 1: to her tape, I was like, I called him. I said,
Speaker 1: what she looked like, right, and he said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see me something. But instead, when we got to know,
Speaker 1: we had to go to be more. And when we
Speaker 1: was off and be more, Wayne never showed up, so
Speaker 1: they was begging me, could all all the stay on
Speaker 1: stage until Wayne got there. Nikki came across the day
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, that's Nikki right there. That's the girl,
Speaker 1: that's Nicki. And I was looking and um Gucci was
Speaker 1: trying to talk to her and she was going on
Speaker 1: and he's like, Yo, that's Nikki, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: get me to see he's really trying to give her ask,
Speaker 1: you know. But at that's how I might have going
Speaker 1: to give a funk because we was on stage for
Speaker 1: too long and nick we're not getting paid for this ship,
Speaker 1: you know. And I did get to see her, but
Speaker 1: when she talked to me, it's the underdog thing that
Speaker 1: gets me. When the first to come to me and
Speaker 1: then in trouble, those are the ones I like helping.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to be big already. I don't
Speaker 1: need you. I'm a builder. I liked building, and I
Speaker 1: was like, fucking with what they say can't happen. It's
Speaker 1: gonna have and my watch is happening. And I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna tech you if I can't do ship for you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You just gotta listen. But
Speaker 1: Nikki was a different kind of female. Also, even though
Speaker 1: she was gonna, she very timid. She got a lot
Speaker 1: of me in up. Now I see that ship. She
Speaker 1: got a lot of me. She got some hard now.
Speaker 1: But she went through She went through a lot. She
Speaker 1: went through a lot of ship. She really didn't go
Speaker 1: through a lot. I'm super proud of her. But she listened.
Speaker 1: It don't matter what people say, all the rumors that
Speaker 1: people say. I'm never going into that ship because I
Speaker 1: don't want to give a day about that stuff. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But she listened, she got up.
Speaker 1: She was a different kind of female. It wasn't about
Speaker 1: no nigga. It wasn't about that because the chicken destroyed
Speaker 1: her whole career for nigga, but he didn't constroyed his
Speaker 1: for you. And I always tell him that she was
Speaker 1: up early in the morning. It wasn't about smoking, hanging out,
Speaker 1: being in love, going throught. She wanted this. This is
Speaker 1: what she wanted. She wanted this bad and she paid attention.
Speaker 1: And that's good that I told you. This show was
Speaker 1: about man, come on, we get me, go on, you
Speaker 1: take by gonna take a shot at them. That she
Speaker 1: was curt moment. She wasn't she was No, she had
Speaker 1: to be trained, She had to go through a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. But what's your favorite moment you take? But
Speaker 1: what what? What these new artists? Which which one? Was
Speaker 1: it discovering Nikki seeing how get to that moment? Or
Speaker 1: was it? Is it com or is it when your
Speaker 1: son said he sucked his money up at your office? Yeah? Car,
Speaker 1: she got there, She got the car to the office
Speaker 1: and car broke down right there, nikkiks is that well
Speaker 1: the office? Actually, when we no longer worked with Nicki,
Speaker 1: they caught the toe truck. I never wanted to card
Speaker 1: go anywhere because that was the car she started and
Speaker 1: was really big to me. But they were so ready
Speaker 1: to get that call because of how everything you know
Speaker 1: was But her BMW fell down right there. And the
Speaker 1: craziest ship is I'm not really shouldn't say this, but
Speaker 1: you don't, Bless my heart. I never knew that how
Speaker 1: Safari was going together. Yeah, I thought Safari neither I
Speaker 1: thought her it was a gay guy that she and
Speaker 1: he was a helper. She never when we went when
Speaker 1: I was booking her out, She's like, Dad, I need
Speaker 1: two rooms. But the two rooms wasn't for him because
Speaker 1: she would get dressed in the other room, but Safari
Speaker 1: was I didn't know that they went together. I never
Speaker 1: knew it. He took my car from her and she
Speaker 1: called me to block him up, and then he called me,
Speaker 1: and that's when he broke down everything. He broke down
Speaker 1: everything that they was together for the year. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: She never that was one thing about her. She never
Speaker 1: any inkland that anything was going on with them, like
Speaker 1: the way she was after story. He was God forgive
Speaker 1: you know. I thought he was just a gay guy
Speaker 1: that was helping her and he was I hide it out.
Speaker 1: He was something. I just never knew anything but the
Speaker 1: putting his career bast for her, you know, when he
Speaker 1: told me that that they put everything into her to
Speaker 1: let her go. And then Bowleg and Luke called me
Speaker 1: and then that's what he told me about all of them,
Speaker 1: that they was a group like Nicky, Bowleg and lou
Speaker 1: really was the first person to have her. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. And there was his son, um it was
Speaker 1: the son Toofari her. There was a group like they
Speaker 1: was the first thing she never told me about. The
Speaker 1: group she told me about like I'm but but you
Speaker 1: want to know something that's money. If you listen to
Speaker 1: all their stories, they omit like George has definitely omitted
Speaker 1: out everything, but that's what brought her end. Harmon should
Speaker 1: always be paid the to Georgia because that's how she
Speaker 1: broke through. So when I listened to Yeah, when I
Speaker 1: listen how about friends to his first French now, because
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be funny, but Frinch didn't really
Speaker 1: naked that roll in Georgia. Um the first time I
Speaker 1: remember when I watched this stuff with them, I'm far.
Speaker 1: I need to be gone with this ship because something no,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I took a little sip of spin back
Speaker 1: in anyway, he didn't. He didn't really, he didn't really
Speaker 1: do is good because the first time and then yell
Speaker 1: about Gucci, Gucci didn't do French Walker thead. Gucci didn't
Speaker 1: like French because the first time he went the studio
Speaker 1: to do a song with him, he paid Gucci in
Speaker 1: five dollarand dollars good on the feature and he was
Speaker 1: just sitting the studio. She was going off the back
Speaker 1: door money left and he was like yeah, and then
Speaker 1: he called me and French was like yo, everybody the
Speaker 1: coin like go, Gucci's up, and I said, what we're
Speaker 1: talking about? And I called him. I said, goach, what
Speaker 1: the hell are you at like to take that got
Speaker 1: to the point of money and he's a man put
Speaker 1: his nigga. He wasn't doing nothing, and I said, you
Speaker 1: can't do no ship like that. French called. He's like, yo, Auntie,
Speaker 1: that's all the money I had. He's like, I had
Speaker 1: no more money, he said, yo, he just took my money.
Speaker 1: Just winning there. I'm like and I'm like, fun, Gucci,
Speaker 1: what you do this ship to way money? So he
Speaker 1: could God damn, I took the sister when a shop baby,
Speaker 1: so he he yes something that I'm right him at
Speaker 1: the gas station because here's like the old we guy
Speaker 1: to go back and um enough to have the ship
Speaker 1: all of them things. I just got that tricks to father.
Speaker 1: I was on and I said Walker, I said, walk
Speaker 1: them do something. I got walking them do. So Walker
Speaker 1: took him out. Fritz. You know, Frinch was drinking a
Speaker 1: lot at that time too, So Frinch kind of messed
Speaker 1: up with the girls street niggas and some stuff went
Speaker 1: down there. So he didn't really pan out as much
Speaker 1: like it's a lot. Christ didn't really panned out as
Speaker 1: much in Atlanta. He didn't. He didn't really do as well.
Speaker 1: People are taking him and I guess some of that
Speaker 1: ship was coming from everyone. He did, he did. He
Speaker 1: did the reason why chopping chopping down. Remember chopping chop down, Well,
Speaker 1: chopper chopping down got kicked. Nobody could chopper chopping down.
Speaker 1: And I liked the reccord. Where was the first ones
Speaker 1: to get the Obama look alike? I had not, so
Speaker 1: I changed the record to add a walker to the record,
Speaker 1: and then we shot, We did the video, We did everything,
Speaker 1: and then I made the call. Got it on the
Speaker 1: same day I got on MTV. That was like the
Speaker 1: fun get to shoot on MTV, right and god nor
Speaker 1: yet that's were broken the chopper chopping down. Nobody was
Speaker 1: letting Fritz in. There was not letting in. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about Atlanta doing it. It was that video that was
Speaker 1: shot that chopper chopper down. We did chopping. We changed
Speaker 1: chopper chopper down, the whole thing. I changed the whole
Speaker 1: record and that's what did it make? Some noise for
Speaker 1: that dare they coming down? Get everything out? Like they
Speaker 1: never add Georgia. They never add a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And went went on. You know what happened there, but
Speaker 1: it did a lot for them, and New York hurt me.
Speaker 1: And I'll say that, like coming from New York, that
Speaker 1: should hurt me. I busted my ask to go to
Speaker 1: New York to find somebody from New York, to find
Speaker 1: people from New York to blow them back up, and
Speaker 1: then you give me your aster kiss. And then New
Speaker 1: York flipped. The whole thing flipped where these people were hated.
Speaker 1: NICKI couldn't even walk the streets of New York, but
Speaker 1: our girls want to slice up and do whatever. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then y'all all flipped on me.
Speaker 1: These the people that the fans was going at them
Speaker 1: like crazy. And then y'all turn around and somebody put
Speaker 1: a rumor here from my mouth and glancles saying again,
Speaker 1: I can say my name, let me just say that,
Speaker 1: And that's how that ship started. That I'm just saying that,
Speaker 1: that's how I started. And those rumors started going out
Speaker 1: and people joined forces in the rumor because they don't
Speaker 1: know any better. But now, even when y'all just sat
Speaker 1: here and said about the whole corrupt thing, somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: see this and be like holy shit, it didn't go
Speaker 1: down like that. Do you understand what I'm saying? Or
Speaker 1: you even just check yourself shout give them a bans
Speaker 1: you're just camera literally and don't edit the ship out.
Speaker 1: So but you just check yourself because when you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the thing that's so good about this normy,
Speaker 1: when you look at this, you could actually see yourself
Speaker 1: and during what times was this like this? And what
Speaker 1: time was that like this? Like holy sh it, I
Speaker 1: didn't know this person really did that? That one didn't? Really?
Speaker 1: Do you need everyone is a little, but I should
Speaker 1: be about that. I actually like the little holy right,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna cheach people because there's so many people
Speaker 1: that became each one of us. There's so many people
Speaker 1: that spread rumors about each one of us. That's some
Speaker 1: sh is true. That everything ain't a line. Some things
Speaker 1: is true. But a little punk ash ship like what
Speaker 1: you know, that's the funk gotta eat you up. Like
Speaker 1: those are the sides of me that I had to
Speaker 1: learn to check myself and not unless you get under
Speaker 1: my skin, because those are the times that I was reacting.
Speaker 1: But those reactions was hurting me and the longer because
Speaker 1: I was really showing my hand of who I am.
Speaker 1: I just didn't do nothing to you at that time.
Speaker 1: But I'm grateful to Georgia because it changed a lot
Speaker 1: of me. It's other times I don't even want you
Speaker 1: to breathe in the end that I breathe, you don't
Speaker 1: deserve to breathe the same end that Okay, it was special, special,
Speaker 1: it was specially so I had to get the hell
Speaker 1: up out of that, you know, like that's just it's
Speaker 1: just something. It just when left field. It's like for us.
Speaker 1: What I didn't like with this particular show is that
Speaker 1: it showed, for me, for black women, that we was weak,
Speaker 1: that all we want to do is do each other
Speaker 1: and our men was to ship. You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I just didn't like how downgraded us. It got
Speaker 1: to be no good, no more like now it was
Speaker 1: no good that people that didn't have anything you're now
Speaker 1: using them. But that's the reality TV and do the
Speaker 1: same thing. I don't do it like that at all.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come out of what you see about me
Speaker 1: is real. There's no in between, there's no fact is ship.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to say a line that
Speaker 1: you give me. That's why I can have the movies,
Speaker 1: because you can't give me a lot of mistake. It's
Speaker 1: hard for me to fill into stuff like that. It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's difficult for me to do that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But this right here, and
Speaker 1: I'm grateful even for all of them, because there's a
Speaker 1: fear of and there's a fear, not a physical fear,
Speaker 1: but a fear of respect because there's not very many
Speaker 1: people especially something. Man, I don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: respect for you because I'm gonna fun you do for
Speaker 1: real real, you know, and I know that you ain't
Speaker 1: about that life for real, for real, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know that, and I know a lot
Speaker 1: of y'all. If I really tell the story. I had
Speaker 1: to stand this sometime and pull something up. That's how
Speaker 1: I got hit more times because he used me for
Speaker 1: the shield just stand what it says, and I was
Speaker 1: used to shill. I thought the nik was blocking me.
Speaker 1: Then I'm digging trying to find the gunny telling me
Speaker 1: under the it's under the chap and I started getting
Speaker 1: pinned and hit because I'm looking, but it ain't no
Speaker 1: gunn answer the goddamn chill. He had the ship sitting
Speaker 1: on the side of him the whole while he was scared,
Speaker 1: But if he moved, he would have got hit. But
Speaker 1: I caught the bullets. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: thought every one of them. And that's the stuff that
Speaker 1: is people in this game. I can tell you some
Speaker 1: shit about you know what I'm saying that I was
Speaker 1: in the position with them and you cried, don't look through,
Speaker 1: give me, don't give me. But then you're staying out there,
Speaker 1: you gainst them, you billy badass. But I'm a woman
Speaker 1: and you're putting me out here to fight, and I
Speaker 1: ain't had no problem with it. Like I had no
Speaker 1: problem was getting it off. Getting on the phone with
Speaker 1: my brother, his twin. You need to be on here,
Speaker 1: because I don't know how I'm gonna come out of
Speaker 1: this one. But I got a bunch of niggas laying
Speaker 1: on the bus screaming, and I know I got to
Speaker 1: get us somebody. Yet, you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: gotta kick my own bus door over the coming out,
Speaker 1: Like what's what we're doing here? You know? But my
Speaker 1: security that I had was four knocks. That's the one
Speaker 1: that you know, I had a continue trick. Don't play nothing,
Speaker 1: he said, arsticles on you. And when PO pull over,
Speaker 1: licensed up. They were good except when he got them
Speaker 1: city and they took them, got their sheriff that I
Speaker 1: took his gun. I took this guy trying to let
Speaker 1: your boy that bought Sipson gotdamn track. I went to
Speaker 1: some ship with that boch censor. Okay, yeah, they took
Speaker 1: they got that. The police came to dit. Let me
Speaker 1: just ask something. Do you will quickly? It's a famous incident.
Speaker 1: It's a couple of famous incidents particular. But they said
Speaker 1: they locked the gates, locked the gates. They locked the gates.
Speaker 1: They said that Ross is trying to perform, but the
Speaker 1: gates were locked ship. I didn't have control of the game.
Speaker 1: I think the security locked the gate. Exactly touched the gate.
Speaker 1: What does that happen? Understood in front of the gate
Speaker 1: and told the driver of the vehicle turn around and
Speaker 1: take him back to his hotel. And then when they
Speaker 1: told the police, sir, you gotta give him out the way.
Speaker 1: The police came and said you gotta move and I said, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I got a hunting me and out here,
Speaker 1: sixty of them armed, half of them licensed. If you
Speaker 1: don't tell that vehicle to turn around and go before
Speaker 1: it get through me, I'm put c and in on
Speaker 1: that corner for six days. Now. You're gonna get asked
Speaker 1: later as a sergeant what happened. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: my side of the story too, And it's gonna be
Speaker 1: that I gave you an option, sergeant, to make this
Speaker 1: all go away and start. I've turned around and said,
Speaker 1: y'all get this vehicle the funk out of here, and
Speaker 1: we went home. That was it. I don't have no
Speaker 1: further questions. We had a club lock with Guccio on
Speaker 1: the Boss. It was happy Wait Wait, Gouci game. We
Speaker 1: had a club. It was only it was only my brother,
Speaker 1: my older brother, Yo, my brother, my twin brother was
Speaker 1: there that night. Ball Yeah, no, Joe, Joe work this,
Speaker 1: We don't yo. He told me the trick Brother, like
Speaker 1: Goose is performing. Stop the whole ship, Yo. Everything on
Speaker 1: stage was with tricking them. So you're gonna lose. You're
Speaker 1: gonna lose. So my brother Pete didn't like, but he
Speaker 1: gained contact with trick Brother. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He talked it out and goose you got got out
Speaker 1: of here, all his ship on and all that. That's
Speaker 1: what it was that I remember because but that's another time,
Speaker 1: because let's make the only tipics, you know, but a
Speaker 1: couple of things to try and you know that ship.
Speaker 1: But it was just a little story about the stage.
Speaker 1: He gave me the stage, you know, a little every
Speaker 1: way he beami ship. It was a controversy strict that
Speaker 1: that's me. Oh yeah man, this ship man, that's is
Speaker 1: so over good. What was that happened? Just all that
Speaker 1: was timex together. You can't bring together still together bread
Speaker 1: like the holis gotta say the hopes you feed your
Speaker 1: guess you gotta have a bad I got it, I can't,
Speaker 1: I gotta do, I gotta do it. Was just gonna
Speaker 1: get do you know that that would be a good
Speaker 1: shot shop because got some of these things like hi,
Speaker 1: y'all just talked about that whole check check in to
Speaker 1: check it. I'm going yeah, now, no, nory, that would
Speaker 1: be a good show. Like the misconceptions that people have
Speaker 1: about the stuff because some of those beats from back
Speaker 1: then you're still lingering now and people are still holding
Speaker 1: on to some of that ship that didn't even happen
Speaker 1: like ner. Yeah, no, you got a couple of peace Sonory.
Speaker 1: I've said that I kept stealing. I said, I know this, nigga,
Speaker 1: I know that how on this sweety two or three
Speaker 1: dollars that's doing this stuff that they're not paying attention.
Speaker 1: But what they have to understand pay attention. Look at
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby, Look at our Kelly. Look at all these people.
Speaker 1: Once they made their money, when they didn't need you
Speaker 1: no more, they found something to come in and get
Speaker 1: you and make you have nothing. Look at all of
Speaker 1: these big artists, all these big people, when they finished
Speaker 1: with you, they finished with you. Look at the bullshit
Speaker 1: they're doing with this tight into your now when y'all
Speaker 1: bringing this ship up for now irritates me every time
Speaker 1: they do it, and the people iver take me. Every
Speaker 1: time you go after people and you start doing this
Speaker 1: ship that that's how we start destroying each other. That's
Speaker 1: why we're so fucked up, because we just rage and
Speaker 1: they'll keep winning for that. If idy keep winning your
Speaker 1: slavery ship, that ship kills me. It makes my ass
Speaker 1: on a couple corfin need everybody together, We need one conversation.
Speaker 1: But trick trick, you. So you're saying, what happened when
Speaker 1: your tricks actually had a problem. It is I mean,
Speaker 1: it's documented history because him and Trick actually had a problem.
Speaker 1: It was it wasn't me and him, We didn't have
Speaker 1: a problem, but it was some some of his associates.
Speaker 1: They tried, they tried to get down on the nigger.
Speaker 1: When I was out here on some promo ship for
Speaker 1: my album at the time, it was called Revelations. This
Speaker 1: was like and we working the album and uh, passing
Speaker 1: out flyers and ship and it was at his after party.
Speaker 1: But it was just what was popular the world was
Speaker 1: they said, your name is Trick changing or something like that.
Speaker 1: I told you on the conversation that dude was happening
Speaker 1: with my homies, that dude that was happening with my
Speaker 1: homies about and he had my flyer in his hand
Speaker 1: and he was like, who the fund is this nigger?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's me, because what's happening. And he's like, no,
Speaker 1: you gotta change your name. You're trying to come up
Speaker 1: off the homie name basically, And I'm like what, I'm like,
Speaker 1: my nigga, my name Trick, Trick. I ain't here of
Speaker 1: trick Daddy until after I think I've been trick tricked
Speaker 1: for thoughts and years. This is a stupid conversation I'm
Speaker 1: having with this man, you know. And so I get
Speaker 1: back to the to the cars where my big brother
Speaker 1: Peanut is at my other big brother Peanut from B
Speaker 1: and B is that And he hadn't the car with that,
Speaker 1: and he won't pass me that motherfucker come not ease.
Speaker 1: Niggas will starts showing me they they blinkers and ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn because the sticker he just showed his head,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, So they're like, you
Speaker 1: about to follow us to the after party, and my
Speaker 1: man gonna follow the other car and make sure you
Speaker 1: don't go nowhere. What the funk kind of ship is that? Homie? Now,
Speaker 1: he didn't call Trick Daddy on the phone, and we
Speaker 1: had a conversation, me and trick Dad. He had a
Speaker 1: conversation on my man phone. I told gave the phone
Speaker 1: back saying he said, give me his number. He gave
Speaker 1: me the man number. But then you know the way
Speaker 1: that panned out with them trying to, you know, get
Speaker 1: us to go to the after party, and the signals
Speaker 1: that they were throwing. I was like, dude, that was
Speaker 1: some bullshit, and everybody agreed. Everybody agreed that was some bullshit.
Speaker 1: They was gonna try to get down. Something happened where
Speaker 1: they couldn't move, and we kind of just went on
Speaker 1: our weight, like just pull off, you know, and me
Speaker 1: being put in a situation where I felt that uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna rest till I get who responsible for
Speaker 1: making me feel that. As you paid for to come
Speaker 1: out there, I helped it was already happening, and then
Speaker 1: it was gonna get canceled, so I helped get some more.
Speaker 1: Ya was good for that, y'all was good for everyone
Speaker 1: was Look, what you're not gonna do is wind in
Speaker 1: my city. But I don't give off who you talk
Speaker 1: to that I promised to God. If I won't, you
Speaker 1: your ass is man. I got a thousand motherfucker's on
Speaker 1: the day you arrive, I'm telling not to get you.
Speaker 1: Right now, y'all's coming out. You know what I'm coming out,
Speaker 1: So I'm put him back there, even your man, because
Speaker 1: my big homies wasn't nothing to funk with, and I
Speaker 1: was the guy. I'm the luci. I started out the
Speaker 1: cop roast tiny on the bottom show. So I had
Speaker 1: to put minds in. I ain't just started at the
Speaker 1: fucking top. Let's started at the start of the top.
Speaker 1: Get that up to thank you know, just because they
Speaker 1: feel something wait of mean trying about themselves that they
Speaker 1: have to belittle my fucking power. They try to go
Speaker 1: against the rules. I said ahead for the benefit of
Speaker 1: my people, those that I leave, those that I protect.
Speaker 1: That was that I provide folks, you know, even if
Speaker 1: it's just you know, somebody, even if somebody I don't know.
Speaker 1: But at this time, we have a situation between me,
Speaker 1: something that's got to do with me, altercation that started
Speaker 1: between my homies and his homies and Ship. It's like
Speaker 1: they're coming. And when I got worried that they was
Speaker 1: coming and then it was gonna get castled, I was like,
Speaker 1: but why are you gonna castle? And they're like, we
Speaker 1: need some more money right here. Get that whole goddamn
Speaker 1: trained here because the people I'm looking for, it's winning
Speaker 1: and Ship they came, Yeah, you're never gonna win in
Speaker 1: my house. Like I don't win in another motherfucker's house.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect to it. Understand me, I respect that,
Speaker 1: But that's the whole thing. Respect it's number one, and
Speaker 1: start with respect. Respect things. I respect my motherfuck her self.
Speaker 1: So every motherfucking body I come in contact with gonna
Speaker 1: respect me because I respect myself. And guess what what
Speaker 1: I respect of myself, I expect of you because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you the same fucking respect I give myself.
Speaker 1: I don't want no problem with no motherfucking man. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Ain't no real nigga never got
Speaker 1: into it with no real nigga because so much you
Speaker 1: need hang. Yeah, it's right, because it's in the middle.
Speaker 1: It was a thing in the middle, niggas. I gotta
Speaker 1: communicate with this man, and I got to hope on
Speaker 1: the line of communications so we can fix this. Don't
Speaker 1: know what brother saying, but let me ask you something
Speaker 1: as as as this is something that we learned from
Speaker 1: New York. We didn't understand bloods and crips, right, We
Speaker 1: totally was was with Gucci robes and all this other thing.
Speaker 1: We didn't know what that Jerry Carroll was or whatever.
Speaker 1: But then it came a point where it was so
Speaker 1: many crips that it was crypt on crypt violence more
Speaker 1: than we hurried crypt on blood violence, and I believe
Speaker 1: that's the second generation crips that it started because Raymond
Speaker 1: Washington and then from my understanding, uh, they was like
Speaker 1: almost positive halfway what the idea was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a positive idea, the idea that we created the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine. But he died the same year the Crypts
Speaker 1: split up. Oh yeah, he died at semi nine. The
Speaker 1: seat was broken and semi nine, so it was Mark's
Speaker 1: hay said the sea was broke, was broken, so the
Speaker 1: sea was created. A cr Cripts came in nineteen sixty nine. Wow,
Speaker 1: ten years later they raising the Roll the sixty started
Speaker 1: beefing the gangs in the Rolling the sixties that was
Speaker 1: us and the atre gangsters that came earlier. You didn't
Speaker 1: even look at me. Well yeah, I mean I don't
Speaker 1: really know him, but I don't have you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, when it was on, it was on with me.
Speaker 1: But have you see nikas who moving They got a problem.
Speaker 1: That's because they didn't do what they're supposed to do,
Speaker 1: but they got something, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: with me, it was like, hey, when I did that,
Speaker 1: I was good at what I did and how how
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is so Crippin came in sixty nine,
Speaker 1: that's when he created crips, and then it kind of
Speaker 1: just took off. And then in seventy nine, when we
Speaker 1: was young, it's getting it's getting more to the west coast,
Speaker 1: to me, to the west side of l A. And
Speaker 1: then now you start getting numbers because there was crips first,
Speaker 1: and there wasn't numbers didn't actually started getting more games
Speaker 1: and go further. For now do start playming like eight trade,
Speaker 1: rolling sixty one or seven nine or crypts And it
Speaker 1: just started moving like that. So we started before day
Speaker 1: tra a gamest at seventy nine that calls all the
Speaker 1: crips just really started fighting each other. And then you
Speaker 1: had to get to split in a neighborhood card or
Speaker 1: he was a gamester. So it was like so l
Speaker 1: A splitting. It's the story that hasn't never been told.
Speaker 1: So either if you wouldn't neighborhood, that meant that we
Speaker 1: didn't do We are all all even numbers. I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't do nothing in trades, we don't do one.
Speaker 1: So if you're seven one, we feel like he was
Speaker 1: a gamester. If he was eight trade. He was a
Speaker 1: gamester if you was any of them numbers. So if
Speaker 1: you can't, he was like you. He was on sixty
Speaker 1: thirty queens. You can't be like you the enemy, you
Speaker 1: know what said, So we went by that bottom number
Speaker 1: and so yeah, so so it was like the rolling
Speaker 1: twenties that like Snoopers a rolling twenty. We roll the
Speaker 1: six cs rolling forties, rolling and then all into the
Speaker 1: Hunters and so but if you took on another set,
Speaker 1: you might not even really you might have even realize that.
Speaker 1: So as we started, well it was game banging. So look,
Speaker 1: in my mind is four levels of game banging, I
Speaker 1: mean crippin. So it's the game banger, the nigga who's
Speaker 1: banging over every day, what sets you from nik where
Speaker 1: you're from, the game ready to get you? Then young
Speaker 1: Kniggs that lasts about five years. Then it's the the
Speaker 1: game the gang. You know, like he's gaming but he
Speaker 1: ain't really in any frond the hood, but he ain't
Speaker 1: banging on more, but he's still representing hood. He owned
Speaker 1: the block, he's getting his money on the block, and
Speaker 1: he know one of two dudes, her mother says from jail.
Speaker 1: Then the next level is the nigga who just he
Speaker 1: not in the hood like that. Numbo got a family
Speaker 1: do what he's doing, but he's gonna pull up and
Speaker 1: he's still rock him but he ain't. He got a
Speaker 1: bunch of niggas he owned another life. Then that's me.
Speaker 1: That's the nig who's totally one out the ship. I
Speaker 1: got a bunch of linking, but I can go influence
Speaker 1: the hood. I can't go, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and do the things. And so they look at us.
Speaker 1: That's me as Mac Big d help bone all us
Speaker 1: things still like this is our babies, Like nigga, we're
Speaker 1: gonna tell you how the block gonna go because we
Speaker 1: ain't never ship it on the block. We ain't got
Speaker 1: no spoils on the block, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like nigga still are block. You can't even those that
Speaker 1: just came in the block two years to tell us
Speaker 1: what the funk to do? I know, because I still
Speaker 1: got this hammered the New York, right. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: the reason why we always and that's the reason why
Speaker 1: we say don't check. And we had that New York
Speaker 1: had sweuck New York for real, This is the real
Speaker 1: New Yorker got to check it in though, because I
Speaker 1: hear dude said it all the time, like like dudes
Speaker 1: come from other states and they want to represent their city.
Speaker 1: Like if you come from Florida, you come from here.
Speaker 1: But you know if you got that's three different hats.
Speaker 1: That's the forties, that's the financiest, the Hispanic game, and
Speaker 1: then I think who else were the hat which had
Speaker 1: so which exactly Florida anything with the then you were
Speaker 1: at you for this it's a crip hat. It's a
Speaker 1: scripts at. Oh yeah, your hand off see that just
Speaker 1: don't know. So you put up in our city if
Speaker 1: you got a certain hat on the wrong area while
Speaker 1: I was on, you can get your cast splay if
Speaker 1: you pull up with that as had. It's three games
Speaker 1: where the ass had the dude a cute popping in
Speaker 1: where the ass had uh supposed to kids cart south
Speaker 1: Side the rolling sixties schoolyards, but we made it really popular.
Speaker 1: So it's really really popular with us because it's the
Speaker 1: hap of sixties and the south Side and then the
Speaker 1: socks hat and all them. Every had needs something there
Speaker 1: like so you didn't have a with you don't have
Speaker 1: a crew with fireing hats. You could be in the
Speaker 1: clubs and they're gonna walk up right with and I
Speaker 1: knew the funk. That mean, what the hell what you're saying?
Speaker 1: Like that hat? Right? Did that Casey had? That's the
Speaker 1: kids and Chris it's been that got you want enough something?
Speaker 1: Here we go again. It's Chicago that used to do lists.
Speaker 1: Certain would you like when you teach it? Because these
Speaker 1: kids don't know they do all of this stuff and
Speaker 1: they don't know. And when they hit these cities when
Speaker 1: they had they don't understand why, because you don't know
Speaker 1: you want to farming land. This is not where you live.
Speaker 1: I always tell the artists that don't think because you're
Speaker 1: poppington and this ship going on, that you popping in
Speaker 1: this city too. Yeah. But the gangs in New York
Speaker 1: crypton bloods in New York ever thought that, oh ship,
Speaker 1: did you ever think that they will come there? Like?
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that they migrated out there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the seriously because migrating when we had cute but
Speaker 1: I we migrated wegraded there in the early night. But
Speaker 1: these kids don't understand. They don't understand that. They still
Speaker 1: don't understand. That's why this stuff is so important, and
Speaker 1: people can't turn their back on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: And these kids are lost, and that's why so much
Speaker 1: ship is going on, because they don't know the culture
Speaker 1: for real. They just saying hip hop? What is hip hop?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? What is hip hip hop?
Speaker 1: Is just not this music. It's a colture, you know what.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. When I was in the road and and
Speaker 1: Jay said to me, I m J. He said the crips.
Speaker 1: He said, blood say crips in the field? He said, yo,
Speaker 1: sixties if New York. And I said, Jay, what what
Speaker 1: that means? Like j was telling me and the dude
Speaker 1: my fact, we want to see pictures and all that.
Speaker 1: And the ride was going on rid you but they're
Speaker 1: going crazy and the riot. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what did Jerry Caroline? Yeah, it was Jery car right aways.
Speaker 1: You well, he's going crazy. And we wore for the hallways.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we Hurricane and Jay. It's me Hurricane
Speaker 1: and Jay. We're walking through the hallways of the arena.
Speaker 1: We didn't care about none of that ship. You do
Speaker 1: rule upon us and said here the tattoo on his arm,
Speaker 1: and he said, rollers six, He said, Roller sixy fun
Speaker 1: with me. I represent New York and I'm doing I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Jay, don't mind you. I'm from New York.
Speaker 1: But he notice he's he's just jause. After a while,
Speaker 1: I started feeling good every time they could be like
Speaker 1: they can see me, like from New York, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: because they can tell about a game bangger the street,
Speaker 1: like when I was going on there, but like I've
Speaker 1: always see sixty things. They were like from New York, right, yea,
Speaker 1: you go, i'd't know i' with New York when he
Speaker 1: said that, my mind was quaiting. No, really Red, we
Speaker 1: didn't like l Yeah, why I didn't know that. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Tell me you don't red that Nigga
Speaker 1: was so much redlyn't like, no, that Nigga was so
Speaker 1: much red. They were not him. We didn't have no
Speaker 1: reason to dis like him. He just wore so much
Speaker 1: read you know who he loved though, like especially us
Speaker 1: Cool mo D because he wore black. He wanted that
Speaker 1: soon the wild, Wild West. He wanted that goes uptown
Speaker 1: down all over real tall the West Coast. Really bought
Speaker 1: that gun play, all right. That's why I said it
Speaker 1: was different and when I said that, Hell, I mean
Speaker 1: it was a Jay. When I got to Jay, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: He's like yo, Chris serious, serious, And I didn't know
Speaker 1: he's a serious print team. So this is what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say. This this this is a question of
Speaker 1: both of y'all. So like, basically, more I started to
Speaker 1: come out to l A, the more I started to
Speaker 1: notice that everybody's in the game, right, everybody. Everybody's one
Speaker 1: of the moorous. One of the most secretive that no
Speaker 1: one knew anything about was the sixties. Like I don't
Speaker 1: went to watts of them, went to all of these,
Speaker 1: but the sixties was just like secretive, Like it's like
Speaker 1: you only know what sixties do if you're in the
Speaker 1: sixth the Special Forces. Like yeah, And then Nipsey Hustle
Speaker 1: comes out, Right, we had corrupt shot the black shot
Speaker 1: about Big Grass. I ain't no big growls and Big
Speaker 1: You was the same nigger we didn't, But the Nipsey
Speaker 1: comes out and sometimes I say, we want to murder
Speaker 1: you that guy. Sometimes you know, those are my brothers.
Speaker 1: But I've wondered sometimes me being famous and they're being
Speaker 1: my brothers that I hurt or add on Nip Nip
Speaker 1: because because you gotta remember at that time, the only
Speaker 1: person was hit in the l A at that time,
Speaker 1: even this game, and then La is a blue city.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's not a rich it's a blue city.
Speaker 1: It's always been more crypt in l A than than
Speaker 1: anywhere like l A come to us all the way through.
Speaker 1: But the thing when Nick was Nick, what made y'all
Speaker 1: what you've seen when Neiver you didn't realize that is
Speaker 1: nipp is the only one that came out that didn't
Speaker 1: claim a part of the city. Snoop was Long Beach,
Speaker 1: Training was Compton, um Jay Rocks, Watts. There was all claiming,
Speaker 1: like different parts of hell we claimed. I'm said the
Speaker 1: hood on it wasn't nothing else, and I was Chrisshaw.
Speaker 1: I'm Crisshaw. Like when you see the Chrisshaw, that's really me.
Speaker 1: Nipsey is Slawson. Boys like Nipsey recollated with Slawson. He
Speaker 1: got Slawson on his back. Everything about Nipsey was all
Speaker 1: slaws I went to Crentshaw. Nfcy never went to Clint Shaw.
Speaker 1: So when we came out, I had to find something
Speaker 1: as a manager to make your artists connect. So we
Speaker 1: needed something that would make him connect to the hood,
Speaker 1: because all this music was all about the hood. If
Speaker 1: he all of his early music was really about banking,
Speaker 1: it was um but they got the name shoot the
Speaker 1: block up running to shoot him as all of that.
Speaker 1: And then in the beginning of this ship, I had
Speaker 1: to go and look at all this music, look at
Speaker 1: all the videos, and make sure he wasn't this and nobody.
Speaker 1: If you remember all these early videos, his first videos,
Speaker 1: I directed them. I directed them, and I've got all
Speaker 1: I'm in all those credits because I had with my
Speaker 1: job me as somebody trying to push something out would
Speaker 1: connect to the city that everybody will respect. And I
Speaker 1: respected all these dudes, bloods, crips, messages and everybody else
Speaker 1: because I just did thirteen years of these dudes. So
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna do thirteen years and didn't come home
Speaker 1: and change up. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: just walk with you niggas, and they said you united
Speaker 1: the y'all. Yeah, that's what I did. I sitting no
Speaker 1: real talk, real talk. I did ship that mother I
Speaker 1: did sit in prison had never been done before. I
Speaker 1: had a big ass June tooth day. But we had
Speaker 1: all the blacks from every set, big ass eat. I
Speaker 1: talked classes in that motherfucker man. I talked classes, really,
Speaker 1: I talked psychology class. I talked class and the mother
Speaker 1: would really sucked me up because I are really studying
Speaker 1: dudes and really seeing like a lot of mega is
Speaker 1: just game banging. And since jail been molested, been been,
Speaker 1: I don't said it, but be molested and hurt and
Speaker 1: feel like likes gamemaking defense mechanism in a lot of
Speaker 1: sorts on ship. Did it happened to motherfucker's fool when
Speaker 1: they was closer and they're like, ain't what happened? No more?
Speaker 1: Now I'm a man. I got a gun off for
Speaker 1: the fight against this. So I used to teach classes
Speaker 1: on the yard, you know what I mean show when
Speaker 1: I came home, not for the i just did thirty
Speaker 1: teen years with these niggas. I'm not gonna good moment
Speaker 1: add to game banging. So when I went to go
Speaker 1: get my artists, have to being with shigging them, studying
Speaker 1: all them and and and and and getting me a
Speaker 1: little bad. It's time to go do me. So I
Speaker 1: found I found that and I'm like, damn. So they
Speaker 1: didn't want to suck with me, and they didn't want
Speaker 1: to with big you, big you, the thugs with sugar.
Speaker 1: You know, all this ship my name is getting their
Speaker 1: builders before I do. So then I went and got
Speaker 1: Steve little bit. I said, I gotta white jew as
Speaker 1: he was David, my wife's, my wife's niece. Steve was.
Speaker 1: And that's how I know somethe Bill and I bring
Speaker 1: Steve on as my face card and then I shoot
Speaker 1: Stephen there and we go to all the different lagels.
Speaker 1: Man we went to jama ain't gonna get mad, Jamaine.
Speaker 1: We didn't come to you, but you ain't wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to turn us down. He said, yeah, documentary tom My
Speaker 1: school was give me tom My sws. Gave us um
Speaker 1: a month, booked is out a month to record, should
Speaker 1: gave us, gave me some recording time for there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And all these dudes was, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta remember I just I just left. I was
Speaker 1: just sure was still Hume and she was like he
Speaker 1: was helping me, you know a month, that's my guy.
Speaker 1: He was like, you want to you want to sign him? Like,
Speaker 1: gave me recording time for NI, gave me beach gave
Speaker 1: the producers. Yeah, did that early autum and so so
Speaker 1: then me and Morty Maul Jamal Jamal Rassi started the
Speaker 1: company called Blue Magic Music Group. We signed Poolbert, we
Speaker 1: signed fifteen hundreds. We did Uh, we did uh album. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta remember see this stuff that people don't know.
Speaker 1: I was doing it at the time, Harrio and Jack
Speaker 1: Ahead fifteen hunter. Oh so I don't really know, like
Speaker 1: people don't know. I gave fifty first deal left, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, the first deal they ever had.
Speaker 1: They came from me. I did game shoe. Did you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the stand that I was doing.
Speaker 1: You can that book. So but but but what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So when this soon and when we came with him,
Speaker 1: it was a major fight. Steve got us through the door.
Speaker 1: I had to go get a white doell as you
Speaker 1: to get us to the I heard you saying the
Speaker 1: documentary that they didn't come get you when the winn
Speaker 1: a Bagel. Yeah, So we was on tour and my partner,
Speaker 1: who win a Bagel was who let us get it
Speaker 1: was on the run twelve years. His girl name, his
Speaker 1: girl his white name was Stacy. My wife name was Stacy.
Speaker 1: So when I registered and registered the mobile home and
Speaker 1: my wife name, they thought it was him. His wife.
Speaker 1: Fans hit us everywhere we go. We think that just
Speaker 1: dormal hip hop ship. We hit Portland, they hit us.
Speaker 1: We're going going up through Oregon that we get all
Speaker 1: the paperwork. They took the motherfucking uh radiator cap on,
Speaker 1: took him over apart, stuck us in our kimber. We
Speaker 1: were for three days. They took them motherfucking scanning from
Speaker 1: the route or to the to to find what they
Speaker 1: wanted on it, put it back together, gave it to us.
Speaker 1: I flew back on. We're not flying home. We get hit.
Speaker 1: I get hit home. They had twenty more people. They
Speaker 1: think they got him anyone. Making long story short. He
Speaker 1: ended up turning them self in and take the case
Speaker 1: off all of us. He gets life right for for
Speaker 1: the drugs. When that ship happened, my team is acting weird.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Steve, I'm looking at get a
Speaker 1: pegwork and Sony so they can see that we you know,
Speaker 1: re leasing all this ship. They're acting weird. So you
Speaker 1: know me, I'm still kind of like, you know, I'm hoiding,
Speaker 1: you know, hiding the heavy. But you know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't funk with yak. So you never seen me
Speaker 1: on the tour. No more a problem, no, no problem,
Speaker 1: never happened. We didn't have a problem when nobody making
Speaker 1: no money. It was no money. We never had a problem.
Speaker 1: I just left. Then when I decided my son come
Speaker 1: home from college. He want to do music, So I'm
Speaker 1: I don't care to be When we get the equipment,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put us somewhere where we can all get
Speaker 1: to it. That's when they gotta set. He made the song.
Speaker 1: I don't rest. They never came up. It did come up,
Speaker 1: It did come out. I don't really would never pushed
Speaker 1: as a song, but it came out. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't wrap. And this is my label with my nigga.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is my lad, this
Speaker 1: is my piece of rock. I fought for this nigga
Speaker 1: and gave this up. Not tell me every single day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like but but it goes
Speaker 1: what we was talking about the documentary Like Her, Like Him,
Speaker 1: Like you got a bunch of young niggers who only
Speaker 1: heard a big youth and then heard of that room
Speaker 1: or two that yeah, the problem never had a problem,
Speaker 1: and that problem on the documentary they actually conspiracy theorist
Speaker 1: that yeah, big you had something to do with that
Speaker 1: or that's why the first question I asked you was
Speaker 1: about the other ship, someone who knocked that out early,
Speaker 1: but that I was circling back. So and then and
Speaker 1: so he made of this song. We get into the altercation,
Speaker 1: We go to jail when his brother get out. That
Speaker 1: two days later, we meet at the at the African
Speaker 1: restaurant because you know, they Africa, because they'll keep saying
Speaker 1: that there was an actually fight there was. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: you know, come on, man, come on, you know it'll
Speaker 1: take five or six in my little nephew that you
Speaker 1: deal with me, you know, you know. And then the
Speaker 1: doctor they say that I'm pretty good. I'm fifty four
Speaker 1: and I still you know, demonstrate. But it's but anyway
Speaker 1: I found my kids, just just the facts, you know.
Speaker 1: But we it's over that night, it's over two days night.
Speaker 1: It don't go nothing. Can't nobody really see me in
Speaker 1: my city, in my town, because I'm gonna go myself
Speaker 1: if it comes to that. I don't need no need
Speaker 1: to do nothing for me. So we ain't got no
Speaker 1: beef period. We never stopped talking. We didn't go two
Speaker 1: days and nothing. We didn't have nothing nothing. You know.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying all the way up until he
Speaker 1: signed the deal with Atlantic Records. Let's go where the
Speaker 1: fund is it? Be Fan, he flied me to New York.
Speaker 1: I'm in the fucking video. I'm in his video? What
Speaker 1: is it? Um? And I ain't a rap? Niggas the
Speaker 1: first song gonna Victory Lap. I am the nigga who
Speaker 1: promote Victory Lap on my Instagram, through the Facebook. All
Speaker 1: these weirdos who told me who became newcy Fingers. They
Speaker 1: want promoting this ship. I don't want promoting that. I
Speaker 1: whenn't did five days in the studio recording for the
Speaker 1: least tape that was gonna come out after that. You're
Speaker 1: gonna hear me though, So where are these rumors coming from?
Speaker 1: It's just niggas using his name and his death to
Speaker 1: make some money and then the rest of the ignorant
Speaker 1: people falling off of that. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: How you go have that and you got a man
Speaker 1: in jail but still in Dennis. Oh. It's a conspiracy
Speaker 1: where the funding the conspiracy. They clearly had a conversation.
Speaker 1: They clearly was beefing. They clearly grew up together. And
Speaker 1: it's a nigga I've never seen before. I never met. No,
Speaker 1: I ain't on that city. You gotta remember, mom, we
Speaker 1: we we At any given time, we may have fifteen homies,
Speaker 1: fifteen hunting homies throughout this on the streets, maybe be
Speaker 1: five or six thousand. But if you got fifteen, I
Speaker 1: don't know all these young niggers you got. I'm fifty four.
Speaker 1: I don't know what niggas I get my squad, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I ain't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: these users, Like I don't know all the unsers in
Speaker 1: New York. I don't know all in Alta. But I
Speaker 1: still get their ship though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I have never met the kid, never met him. But
Speaker 1: you know what, you put the ship that big you table.
Speaker 1: Whyce you gonna put at the table the motherfucker's who
Speaker 1: knew him. Put it at the motherfucker table where the
Speaker 1: people who ran with him, and put it at the
Speaker 1: table of the mubbles who got's bad now put it
Speaker 1: at the table around mubbles trying to shift the sheet
Speaker 1: to somewhere else house, put it in my table. Ain't
Speaker 1: got no fact I had not in the game. He
Speaker 1: get my nigger. He came and getting me and he like,
Speaker 1: I asked myself, man, less know who's gonna do? Man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be back in the more bullshit
Speaker 1: we said, many of you're gonna be you U. You
Speaker 1: don't do what you wanna do. We don't gonna take over.
Speaker 1: And I'm all right cool. My nigga came and got meat.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying? And who gating this? Only
Speaker 1: award living? How you beefing? Cauled him. I was doing
Speaker 1: a war show, nip from the eye of you. I'm
Speaker 1: the one getting man. But they gotta move you. That
Speaker 1: got You have to understand, like that's the whole thing
Speaker 1: about all of this. They have to move you out
Speaker 1: the way. Even with all of them, you're never gonna
Speaker 1: hear nothing about me. These was all stars before I
Speaker 1: touched them. If you let them tell it, they're not
Speaker 1: telling the story of being homeless and not have the ship.
Speaker 1: And to close with you, with you, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: cut you off, but with you, you said, the only
Speaker 1: artist that that bothered you was French like after things things,
Speaker 1: But French ain't really the only person like honestly all
Speaker 1: of them in a way, because I did a lot.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. I I messed up a
Speaker 1: lot of relationships protecting them because I stood by them.
Speaker 1: And let's be clear, I don't regret it, because if
Speaker 1: I'm with you on with you, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's sometimes they go like that. But I protected children.
Speaker 1: Protecting you meant the short that you was good. Then
Speaker 1: you turned on me. And here's the thing, here's my story. Okay,
Speaker 1: I took puppies and turned them into vicious animals. They
Speaker 1: turned around and left me and became leashed by someone else. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I said. But they're the same people that
Speaker 1: I'm beating with all the people again, the same people
Speaker 1: that I was that I went in so I don't hear.
Speaker 1: The same people that I'm getting in a beet with
Speaker 1: are the people that you went up underneath. You understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Then on top of that, for them,
Speaker 1: I'm protecting you. Then on top of that, you checked
Speaker 1: around and you went into an agreement with stop and
Speaker 1: I saw you in an agreement. You didn't say anything,
Speaker 1: but you said a lot when you didn't say nothing.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on right there, when all of that's
Speaker 1: how I feel, all these lay masks neily seemed saying
Speaker 1: it so function by not saying nothing, I feel like
Speaker 1: you was you was you? You was really sad. I'm
Speaker 1: saying something a whole lot of them, And I'm understand
Speaker 1: his family could have came out said, ain't no goddamn
Speaker 1: nothing with this ship. So I and I got any
Speaker 1: of the actually day was my relationship with the family?
Speaker 1: Fuck that I don't have one. I don't want one,
Speaker 1: because they could have came out and said what happened
Speaker 1: and shed a lot of ship down, but then let
Speaker 1: my family go through the bullshit dealer with all this ship.
Speaker 1: My kids at school, yeah, my daughter, my son a
Speaker 1: college broke my son is that college play ball? His coaches?
Speaker 1: Are they calling me like me, se daddy? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you know, it doesn't only trickle
Speaker 1: like the thing that was so like even with my son,
Speaker 1: like my son that committed suicide. One of the things
Speaker 1: that he did not he could stand his industry. He
Speaker 1: watched the destroy his family. He watches destroy the friends.
Speaker 1: They lost so many people. But the biggest thing is
Speaker 1: that he used to always tell me he couldn't be
Speaker 1: here not being able to see to protect me. Watching
Speaker 1: the things that people say what they did. He know
Speaker 1: what I did. Every one of them know what I
Speaker 1: did for them. Every one of them know what I
Speaker 1: went up against for them. They all know that. And
Speaker 1: that's the part that you ain't. Never have to say
Speaker 1: nothing because I don't use your name to move forward.
Speaker 1: You don't need to drink. Don't god them more, drink
Speaker 1: shot out. You gotta know and now don't gotta bring
Speaker 1: you back to the ship. Don't showing out family traits. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying I'm sorry, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that that is a triple to it's a trickle effector
Speaker 1: it's a trickle effect to a lot of people. There
Speaker 1: are other people that's affected by the things that you've done.
Speaker 1: So when they sit there, like even for my kids,
Speaker 1: like a walker, this ship can't mean anything him. He
Speaker 1: grew up in this ship. So when he loved you,
Speaker 1: he loved you because he's taught that loyalty is everything.
Speaker 1: If I funk with you, I fuck with you like
Speaker 1: Chuck you like Prince to the end, and even every
Speaker 1: one of them you don't see no interviews with me,
Speaker 1: putting their business out in the street. You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When all the ship was going down, called
Speaker 1: me for a whole bunch of stuff. I could write
Speaker 1: a whole freaking book, best number one s and have
Speaker 1: you when you can't walk the streets period, I could
Speaker 1: put that out there, all of them keeping it b
Speaker 1: who is that a lot of people met? Just them
Speaker 1: for even people that they run with gonna be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're gonna wake up to some Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ship that you're doing, now what you feel to
Speaker 1: realize them entourages and the people that's around me, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I've tell your business. It's people that's coming back to me,
Speaker 1: just telling me stuff that they think I want to
Speaker 1: hear it. It's like, why are you telling me that? Well, girl,
Speaker 1: we're cool. We can't be cool because you're cool with them.
Speaker 1: You're hanging out with them, you're right there with them,
Speaker 1: You're telling all their fucking business. So who's to say
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna tell me. I don't trust you. See,
Speaker 1: I can't teach you to know how you run your
Speaker 1: malcome you say you funk with me, They're funk with me.
Speaker 1: But if you start speeling some ill ship about me, nigga,
Speaker 1: I know you don't care nothing about me, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pay attention to you. I'm definitely paying attention to you,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna give you that opportunity to come
Speaker 1: get me because I'm already watching you to get you
Speaker 1: all ready. But this is the problem. We gotta stay
Speaker 1: solid and stay to the coach while these other lanes
Speaker 1: don't get to stay sat, you know. And that's the
Speaker 1: difference between what like I said, when I when when you,
Speaker 1: when I chose the people when we're choosing. I got
Speaker 1: it with the mothers who can telling the story. And
Speaker 1: me and her was talking today on the way up here,
Speaker 1: and we got such the same I mean so ship
Speaker 1: that she said to me, I had a problem with
Speaker 1: my own sons. You know what I'm saying, because these
Speaker 1: niggs grow up in my neighborhood. They believed it too.
Speaker 1: And you know, kids only know what they're here and
Speaker 1: then they're only gonna go by what their problem was.
Speaker 1: And my daddy ain't the best mother sucking the world,
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying, because who what who daddy
Speaker 1: is until you become a daddy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When you becoming daddy and you gotta deal with the
Speaker 1: baby mama and the baby mama and the kids know
Speaker 1: that marama, then you're gonna be like my post was
Speaker 1: the best mother in the world. Butter tookt to that
Speaker 1: me and be beat. You know what I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: hurting thing. That's crazy when other people come in there
Speaker 1: and do something and marry. I'm gonna keeping a hundred
Speaker 1: and put it back out here. I taught anybody I
Speaker 1: didn't know every fucking thing I know. I'd be a mother. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm a nurturer, that's one thing I know. And I
Speaker 1: know how to take care of my nigga. I know
Speaker 1: how to do that. You understand what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: know how to wear multiple hats. I know how to
Speaker 1: do ship other than throw my legs in the air.
Speaker 1: I could cook, I could clean, I could bring the
Speaker 1: money up in there. I could take care of you.
Speaker 1: I cook my money, okay, to cook broke me up
Speaker 1: in the family. Gay, I cook. So I know how
Speaker 1: to do one of these things because even though when
Speaker 1: I was a kid and doing all the thing, my
Speaker 1: grandmother made me dubrand getting there. I had to go
Speaker 1: in that kitchen and I had too, And she used
Speaker 1: to tell me, it's gonna come a time that you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do more to throw your legs up
Speaker 1: in the air. You're gonna have to keep him home.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to learn how to keep this bed clean.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to know how to fill the stomach up.
Speaker 1: The nigs is coming home. I don't care who you
Speaker 1: get for two seconds. I can't miss without a measure.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. And I don't go digging.
Speaker 1: I don't do none of that ship. But I know
Speaker 1: you got home. That's that's real ship. Talking about that
Speaker 1: on the pockets, I did any pockets. I ain't took
Speaker 1: the telephones. I ain't gonna through all that ship. Just
Speaker 1: make sure when I go outside, they lefting with me
Speaker 1: and not at me, because then we're gonna have a problem.
Speaker 1: They becomes something totally different, you understand, But these are
Speaker 1: things that I know. When you come into my household
Speaker 1: and you start doing all this function, that's what this
Speaker 1: game became. I ain't never told nobody else that goddamn manager.
Speaker 1: They made me a manager. These people came to me
Speaker 1: because they needed help. They was in trouble in the streets.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get their shipped through. I made that happen, period,
Speaker 1: and you now everybody else would to run around and
Speaker 1: getting the credit for what I did if I want coverage, okay,
Speaker 1: don't want to gain credit y'all claiming all of this
Speaker 1: ship that y'all did. It's more than those artists, this producers.
Speaker 1: There's the sound of this game period track. I am
Speaker 1: the fucking track queen. Period. They can say what everything
Speaker 1: and that ship that's s claimed ship? You're gonna give
Speaker 1: me mind see already took minds. I don't need the
Speaker 1: validation from you. Why they're running around here and needing
Speaker 1: to talking be all on bridget all that. I don't
Speaker 1: need none of this ship my action speak. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you period when I when I was, I was
Speaker 1: able to do this right now, So I gotta do
Speaker 1: research on everybody. Can we got the tank when we
Speaker 1: put the doctor together into a t I don't know
Speaker 1: where to put her is in New York, Atlanta, Every
Speaker 1: nigga tr tr I don't know how she t I
Speaker 1: feel about it. You gotta do her the one. I
Speaker 1: respect that being like even anything that was going on,
Speaker 1: like real recognized real, and the street codes are the
Speaker 1: street cold and I'm governed by that. I'm gonna keeping
Speaker 1: a hundred. I am concrete because that's what me and
Speaker 1: and I'm a hunter with that. And I'm telling me
Speaker 1: it's like, I think, I respect what you're doing, but
Speaker 1: you just know beside them one don't make me cheers
Speaker 1: because you won't win. And that's just real ship. That's
Speaker 1: how I am about with you. I'm with you. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be chucky. We can pre press to the end.
Speaker 1: I'm a ride, I'm a doctor. My bird is my bard.
Speaker 1: I will doctor my bird. And that's just real ship.
Speaker 1: You gotta go out here, but let the show real quick, right.
Speaker 1: So you said you had a chance for f X
Speaker 1: came to you and they said, no, no, we how
Speaker 1: this show got? How this show got? Jimmy Chris came
Speaker 1: to me. He's a partner of mine. He's he's a blood,
Speaker 1: he's a part of Out of Count. Came to me
Speaker 1: to do the show. He wanted to do it with
Speaker 1: Sugar Whack and come more people. They add a little situations.
Speaker 1: He ended up, and because he had done something for
Speaker 1: me a while ago, I did it and I said,
Speaker 1: but I gotta go this way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then we gotta go get the right people. And
Speaker 1: we started moving over the story four years ago. Wow,
Speaker 1: four years ago turned down about forty different entities. Yes,
Speaker 1: so we shot the pilot. I got t I and
Speaker 1: weirds again on it. Nobody that came later that didn't
Speaker 1: come letter too. We started moving nobody understand that. Then
Speaker 1: um two years ago, years ago, something that happened I
Speaker 1: can't remember. We've made them start seeing my name and
Speaker 1: industry not when the nip didn't die and and and
Speaker 1: then that's how like Box, another European company came to
Speaker 1: the table. We had a couple of meetings that was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we understand what big you is, but who else can
Speaker 1: you bring it to the table. So then I'm like,
Speaker 1: on the person out hand I know off hand is
Speaker 1: well I got a trick, trick, Okay, we're gonna reach oh,
Speaker 1: I got haste Jack. Then like we gotta get a
Speaker 1: female on and I'm like, let's go get what's your
Speaker 1: name to do the show with you, Mona. Let's go
Speaker 1: get Mona Scott. Then they're like nah, and then the
Speaker 1: whole world starts saying never happening. Let's name is bid
Speaker 1: me the Supreme Team. Go get the Supreme Team, because
Speaker 1: that's me. I need to have big. I need to
Speaker 1: have me on the on the East Oats because it
Speaker 1: won't look right if it looks like then it looks
Speaker 1: like big you I need. I need the Supreme Team.
Speaker 1: So when I heard the Supreme Team, I don't know
Speaker 1: bay brothers and sisters. I have no clue, but I
Speaker 1: just want. I wanted to me ben me, and they
Speaker 1: tell me you already know Benny. You don't know many
Speaker 1: throughout the industry. And now my home is like hen
Speaker 1: you probably don't Recognid because he ain't big here a
Speaker 1: little dude, And I'm just like, damn, I know him, Like,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to re meet you because I
Speaker 1: already got a story. Now. So now I got her story,
Speaker 1: and then I already know his stories my brother, so
Speaker 1: her story just it's like amazing, But now I'm scared
Speaker 1: is she gonna tell it? So now we're like, damn,
Speaker 1: can I go? I go sit down with Jay Prince.
Speaker 1: I sit down with a couple of different homies. I said, down,
Speaker 1: I'm selling a lot of people, had a lot of
Speaker 1: gonna j another people. We're gonna when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do Jake. But Jay was doing a documentary already,
Speaker 1: like Haystan Hayston. Jack was already doing this documentary. So
Speaker 1: I had to talk, Hey, Jackie, man, I need for
Speaker 1: this is Jack And then Jake, I got you, bro,
Speaker 1: but I'm only gonna be able to give you so much.
Speaker 1: And what he was only able to give us would
Speaker 1: not fit in the story on how we wanted to
Speaker 1: tell because he was gonna talk about how me and
Speaker 1: him first but when I first went to prison, was
Speaker 1: talking about doing the Quan and then bringing corrupt my
Speaker 1: moan and all that stuff and under him and dealing
Speaker 1: with him. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: that's the story's gonna come out. And then would ask
Speaker 1: mc and OLM. So we ended up telling this story
Speaker 1: and it's just like it was like saying, we started
Speaker 1: shooting it. It took us two years to get to
Speaker 1: this point, and she became like her story to me
Speaker 1: affecting my wife, my daughter. You know when you're telling
Speaker 1: the story and you're letting your kids see it. And
Speaker 1: my daughter's like, I just wanted me dead. She said,
Speaker 1: part of your stories are regularly but hers is and
Speaker 1: it but but but it was my daughter who I
Speaker 1: felt like, damn, she get to see somebody who ain't
Speaker 1: taking their clubs clothes off. I ain't never watched um
Speaker 1: love hip hop, that's what it's called the show. I've
Speaker 1: never watched love. He watched every episode. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: I don't watch another because I leave pep hope. But
Speaker 1: my daughter bronic my daughter and I let my my
Speaker 1: home girl see that was like dad at me dead
Speaker 1: dead dead dead dead, And I was like, man, we
Speaker 1: gotta get more out of her. But it was ship
Speaker 1: at first. I still still like doing anymore right now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wasn't looking out to be honest to
Speaker 1: herod all the ship. I was like, that's the most story,
Speaker 1: Like that's how much hearings around torutic a baby because
Speaker 1: it was doing like we was going, they was going,
Speaker 1: her pop was going. But but and then like I see,
Speaker 1: we told the story, and we wanted to tell the
Speaker 1: story of the history of hip hop and the history
Speaker 1: of how it got to where we are. And the
Speaker 1: unique thing is because of where we are right now,
Speaker 1: we'll never have these stories because the camera ain't gonna
Speaker 1: let it, the one on the street corner, the phone
Speaker 1: ain't gonna let it, the one is telling everything and
Speaker 1: it's just not we're not These stories will become what
Speaker 1: the Mafia stories were because d down on TV THEYD
Speaker 1: me down. So glad that y'all telling y'all stories, because
Speaker 1: guess what will happen if y'all didn't tell your stories.
Speaker 1: Someone else will tell your story. But people have to
Speaker 1: tell that's to tell that. At first, I gave them feeble.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not doing this it. I think
Speaker 1: I'm not going back and forth because they want to
Speaker 1: say what they want to say to you. And with
Speaker 1: rashity and dough like I really do, even though firing
Speaker 1: him every day, but I'm like we we talk like
Speaker 1: bashiti Obi let not tell you. Obi was the thrown
Speaker 1: on my side. She made my ass on up to
Speaker 1: Corpine like tons of selling at that, like just like
Speaker 1: like strong, yeah, because you know I shoul strong as health.
Speaker 1: But Obe would not leave me alone, like I get
Speaker 1: my phone, get stuff. Because I was like thinking this
Speaker 1: will be like every other show. I don't take pictures
Speaker 1: and my time didn't take pictures. I'm not gonna tell
Speaker 1: him myself. I was with turning people, and I can't
Speaker 1: implement people that I was with to this day. There's
Speaker 1: still things that I can't talk about. I won't talk about,
Speaker 1: but I'll talk about me because I want you to
Speaker 1: now know me as much as I can talk about you.
Speaker 1: I got a better story me for you. Me and
Speaker 1: I said, Walker said, Ma, you need to tell you
Speaker 1: need to stop sitting back. Mar You don't say nothing.
Speaker 1: You don't never say enohing, you ain't got en. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say that some people it's it's kind of not good.
Speaker 1: Some ship won't come out right. You know. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is like nothing. I might be like like some
Speaker 1: things just won't come out right, and it it's like this.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you all. It don't matter to me what
Speaker 1: anybody say. This was therapy for me. I needed this.
Speaker 1: I had so much anger inside of me. I have
Speaker 1: so much blocking, so much depression. When you said even
Speaker 1: like about Nikki, I associated losing her with death, like
Speaker 1: literally like death. That ship hurt me so bad. I
Speaker 1: told every one of them. Even if you don't want
Speaker 1: to be with me, or if it comes that time
Speaker 1: that we're not together, go, I'm caking for about this business.
Speaker 1: I don't make money if I rolled up and down
Speaker 1: street with a shopper card, but some guy that collect
Speaker 1: bothers the kids, I'm gonna make some money. You ain't
Speaker 1: nothing to stop me from getting that. You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I can't replace you as an individual.
Speaker 1: So when you love and you put that, let's put
Speaker 1: that much into a person. You put that much in.
Speaker 1: I'm cried with them. We went through a lot of ships.
Speaker 1: I have nothing and they left me with nothing. And
Speaker 1: that's just real ship they owed me. I got nothing
Speaker 1: out of nothing. But you want to know something, Let's
Speaker 1: be real. I'm not gonna blame that on that, because
Speaker 1: if you don't ask nothing, you ain't gonna get nothing.
Speaker 1: I can't expect you to give me something I've never
Speaker 1: asked for. I said I'd help you. I just say
Speaker 1: you have to give me this. I said I would
Speaker 1: help you, So that's what I put that in. That's
Speaker 1: why I ain't really mad about that. Franks is another
Speaker 1: thing I told him I was gonna get him. You're
Speaker 1: a different my nigga, because I knew you was gonna
Speaker 1: across me. I knew that, but other people the milliyears,
Speaker 1: nobody ever told me got you across me in a
Speaker 1: million years, nobody ever told me. Even though everybody said
Speaker 1: he saw he is. I was just with him longest
Speaker 1: he stayed there, the longest. I would have never did that.
Speaker 1: I knew that. And Juice, I did a disservice to him.
Speaker 1: And I'll say that I neglected o j. I neglected
Speaker 1: o Ja because goocher stayed. There's so much sip goo
Speaker 1: you had to be wrapped around his finger. Like I stayed.
Speaker 1: I stayed doing stuff. But also that was a part
Speaker 1: of me that I loved. That was the nurtured part
Speaker 1: of me, taking care of my babies, all of them.
Speaker 1: On my babies. Then it's still my babies. You understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like no matter what, and it
Speaker 1: is what it is. I don't care about all of
Speaker 1: us and that stuff. You could always make money, but
Speaker 1: you can't replace people. And that for me mean something.
Speaker 1: Even when I was in the street, they had to
Speaker 1: do something to somebody. I still still doing. Get just
Speaker 1: clean the blood, get the ship up off of them,
Speaker 1: try to do something. You still try to nurtures. Didn't
Speaker 1: give them love, you know, you still trying to. That's
Speaker 1: just who I am, you know, and I love hard.
Speaker 1: So when you cross me, it's something different. It's just
Speaker 1: that they've never been in produced the hot and that's
Speaker 1: the blessing, that's the wrapping up, right. So let's just
Speaker 1: make sure anybody say something. Say so, let's start with
Speaker 1: you trip, Say what what's the next? Besides the fact
Speaker 1: that I'm telling people who have asked this ship, what
Speaker 1: is it called? Hip hop? Good? That name? So many
Speaker 1: other names I'm told I'm kind of stuff about. It's
Speaker 1: hip hop on cover and I'm I'm not having a
Speaker 1: ball doing all the press with it. Uh. I have
Speaker 1: a movie I wrote, directed, produced, called The Last twenty four.
Speaker 1: So I'm my manager there because I put you in
Speaker 1: the movie. I put you in the movie. I plugged
Speaker 1: you in that movie, the Detroit movie Let's keep it red.
Speaker 1: That movie I called you direct me be doing and
Speaker 1: I needed you to form on the road in New York.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. Little bit of room tasting, this is
Speaker 1: what happened. I'm doing the movie in Detroit. I got
Speaker 1: these They told me, I got Googles with me. These
Speaker 1: Googles is actors, and I called you up. I tell
Speaker 1: you listen, I got the most cordeous dudes playing actors.
Speaker 1: And you see me the ones like that I'm ready
Speaker 1: to do. And the next time I seen the movie
Speaker 1: us the song this is legit. So I remember I
Speaker 1: took it. I took him over the shine. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: So let's say last thing before we talk to tell them.
Speaker 1: Tell them what you got going on. Tell them my movie,
Speaker 1: the last twenty four, the five films with my siblings.
Speaker 1: We had a film company, and I decided to go
Speaker 1: on my studio or do another goddamn album. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not coming to hurt you when I get finished. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm cool, all right, what you got going on? Tell people? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know I'm EP and growing up in hip
Speaker 1: hop really now, growing up hip hop Atlanta Blockers Okay,
Speaker 1: so Thursday nice now, growing up hip hop ten PM,
Speaker 1: we TV and whislockers at TV. They come behind this show, Okay,
Speaker 1: then they'll come out. They're getting that money. Yeah, stop
Speaker 1: getting money. Yeah that's going on. I have my dual
Speaker 1: station be one that's coming back. So I'm bringing PEP
Speaker 1: one hundreds back. I have some other stuff hopefully coming
Speaker 1: through with my new team. But they fired every day. Okay,
Speaker 1: come on a radio show to the station. Distributed company
Speaker 1: Tag Tag Destro is the distab company. Let's go. I'm
Speaker 1: listening Tag Standford, the anti group bo Yeah up plus
Speaker 1: not that. But we have Premise, which is a Kanya.
Speaker 1: It's a Kane and it's not somebody else's. It is
Speaker 1: Tag again the Auntie Brook it was the family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have to talk about Tag on song. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talking a boy, all right. I like this bottle. It's
Speaker 1: a little weird as he can see. He's team. That's
Speaker 1: why I said it wanted to be something about these
Speaker 1: big things that need to be cleared up. You just
Speaker 1: brought up. That's still problems out there now, and that's
Speaker 1: all we have to get this sh We have to
Speaker 1: stop the rumors to stop, to stop that's going on
Speaker 1: because these little minions is running around thinking that they
Speaker 1: can hand you somebody's ship. He had other people's ship
Speaker 1: get in when that's the major leagues. You're not even
Speaker 1: ready right like he from my heart, I don't watch
Speaker 1: some girl to me as you know, and we we
Speaker 1: can go into it. Supreme was in prison, he was
Speaker 1: home and I'm not gonna my man just what his
Speaker 1: first gloves. I'm not gonna dispect this man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not gonna do that at all.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying with me personally, out of
Speaker 1: come line call wolfing and sheep clothing, wolf and sheep cloth.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise for that. Like you gotta be
Speaker 1: a wolf, but you gotta win this ship. You a sheet,
Speaker 1: you feel me? You have me a wolf? No mean,
Speaker 1: but we gotta put some a open here. We got
Speaker 1: we got this is this is everybody put their own solo,
Speaker 1: put their own solo. You gotta go. You gotta played
Speaker 1: noory for this ship. Every drinking this bullshot. I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to you supposed to get drunk with me. This is
Speaker 1: which is supposed to do. I don't know, but every
Speaker 1: company own solo, but big you come on, Chell, We
Speaker 1: got the We got the check in no no, no
Speaker 1: check in podcast. We got the check in podcast. Like
Speaker 1: me do again? What else? So we got we got
Speaker 1: to check the podcast? Of course, you know I got
Speaker 1: a couple of the movie projects. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: me doucers. So I'm looking for funding to get those
Speaker 1: projects off the ground. Um and then um, we got
Speaker 1: a clothing line. I'm sorry, No you need clothing with me.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of movie projects. Man, It's like
Speaker 1: I'm asking this crush. Yeah, well it's mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a hood. Like nobody can never trade mark Crisshaway.
Speaker 1: You can try to, but there's too many people that
Speaker 1: come from Crenshaw, Like it's it's a whole nation of people.
Speaker 1: So as ridiculous for anybody to say they own it,
Speaker 1: like nobody can own that as they went to Creshaw
Speaker 1: before me after, you know. And so I don't think
Speaker 1: nobody can trade mark Crenshaw. We can't just make the
Speaker 1: brand still look better. So I'm doing I got a
Speaker 1: weed line coming out. This is the Cresshaw papers. Just
Speaker 1: decide right now. We got bloods coming it all that,
Speaker 1: But the most things I'm more important about is developing option.
Speaker 1: So that's the work I do with the kids. And
Speaker 1: with that, I got over boys that were they put
Speaker 1: through college and they put in school. My son is
Speaker 1: I got six, is gonna graduate this year with my
Speaker 1: son group. He's graduating from mom reading the vat of
Speaker 1: my youngest son. I mean, right behind him is gonna
Speaker 1: be four more of my kids who're gonna be graduating
Speaker 1: from college. So that's what we got. We gotta take
Speaker 1: it my back, you know, spring ground bags we got.
Speaker 1: I don't know so. Look, but the distribution company unique distribution.
Speaker 1: It's for people to go out pot of music. I'm
Speaker 1: not really trying to sign artists no more. Just really
Speaker 1: give artists on the platform to put their music out.
Speaker 1: So we already had that, but like I said, the
Speaker 1: distribution come in with that's for y'all. Man passed out around. Hey,
Speaker 1: looks for looks the aty movie coming out? You know
Speaker 1: the family and yeah, you are really fine? Got their bags?
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