1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest on the deadly plane 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 3: crash in Washington, d C. There are no survivors in 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: the collision between American Eagle Flight fifty three forty two 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: and an Army Blackhawk helicopter near Reagan National Airport. Todd 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: Inman with the National Transportation Safety Board says crews are 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: still pulling victims from the Potomac River. 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 4: We're still in a recovery mode, first and foremost to 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 4: get the perishable evidence and specifically the bodies out. Once 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 4: we get a little bit closer into that, we'll be 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 4: able to better understand the dynamics of what may have 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 4: happened upon impact. 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: Todd Inman with the NTSB says both black boxes from 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: the American Eagle flight have now been recovered. Bloomberg's Danny 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: Lee reports those have been sent to labs for evaluation. 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 5: This will be crucial because they can potentially start to 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 5: find out in the minutes before the lead up to 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 5: and also the seconds before, what were the conversations the 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: cockpit between the pilots, particularly with the air traffic control 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 5: which is under scrutiny, and also were there any warnings 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 5: particulars his plane would have been traveling down in the 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 5: dark through the very busy piece of s space. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Danny Lee reports the NTSB could put out a 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: preliminary report on the crash within thirty days, but the 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: agency says it won't speculate about possible causes well Nathan. 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: President Trump says he does not know exactly what caused 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: the crash, but he does say he has opinions. At 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: a White House news conference, the President said diversity, equity 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: and inclusion programs may have played a role in the disaster. 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 6: It just could have been. 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 7: We have a high standard. We've had a much higher 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 7: standard than anybody else, and there are things where you 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 7: have to go by brain power, you have to go 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 7: by psychological equality. 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: The President also says there may have been a pilot 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: problem with a helicopter in that he didn't necessarily know 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: if it was the controller's fault. Leader President Trump signed 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: an executive order for the FAA and the Transportation Department 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: to review its hiring and safety decisions over the last 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: four years. Under the Biden administration. 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: Well, meanwhile, Karen, President Trump is poised to impose twenty 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: five percent tariffs on nine hundred billion dollars worth of 45 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: goods from Canada and Mexico starting tomorrow. 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 6: The President spoke from the Oval Office. 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 7: Mexico and Canada have never been good to us on trade. 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 7: They've treated us very unfairly on trade, and we will 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 7: be able to make that up very quickly because we 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 7: don't need the products that they have. 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 6: We have all the oil you need. 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 7: We have all the trees you need, meaning the lumber. 53 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 7: We have more than almost anybody in those two categories. 54 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: And Americans love of guacamole is about to be put 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: to the test. Mexico supplies upward of ninety percent of 56 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: the avocados Americans eat, and President Donald Trump is likely 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: to make them more expensive with this gland to slap 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: twenty five percent tariffs on Mexican imports beginning on Saturday. 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: Prices for avocados are already up fourteen percent from a 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: year ago. More pressure is coming with the Super Bowl, 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: which is my far the biggest day of the year 62 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: for eating avocados in the US. 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 3: Well, it's been a big couple of days for President 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Trump's cabinet picks. Karen Tulcy Gabbard, the president's choice to 65 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: be Director of National Intelligence. She faced questions from the 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: Senate Intelligence Committee. Many of those centered on what critics 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: see is her shifting positions on intelligence collection and statement 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: sympathetic to Russia. 69 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Zamy Morris reports from Washington. 70 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 8: Several lawmakers focused on gabbard support for NSA whistleblower, Edward Snowden, 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 8: who leaked classified documents then fled to Russia, where he's 72 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 8: now a citizen. Democratic Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado. 73 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 9: Is Edward Snowden a trader to the United States of America. 74 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 8: As someone who has to go on in combat, I 75 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 8: understand how critical our national security. 76 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 6: Farely you don't. 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 8: Gabbard's nomination is not certain, with many Republicans declining to 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 8: declare their support and Democrats criticizing her for appearing sympathetic 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 8: toward authoritarians like Russia's Vladimir Putin and Syria's Bashar al Asad. 80 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 8: In Washington, Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio. 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: All right, Amy, thank you about cash battel President Trump's picctilly. 82 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: The FBI also had his confirmation. Hearing, Battel insisted that 83 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: he did not have an enemy's list. He also said 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: he would not seek retribution against the president's adversaries or 85 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: launch investigations for political reasons. 86 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 10: The only thing that will matter if I'm confirmed as 87 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 10: a director of the FBI is a de weaponized, depoliticized 88 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 10: system of law enforcement, completely devoted to rigorous obedience of 89 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 10: the Constitution and a singular standard of justice. 90 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: Patel sought on multiple occasions to reassure Democrats that his 91 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: FBI would be independent from the White House. He would 92 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: not acknowledge that Trump had lost the twenty twenty election, 93 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: conceding only that Joe Biden was sworn in as president. 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: During the markets now, Karen, futures are higher. We close 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: out the trading week, thanks in part to big tech earnings. 96 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: Shares of Apple are hired by more than three percent. 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: The iPhone maker gave a reassuring revenue forecast for the 98 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: current quarter, offsetting holiday results which showed jarring declines for 99 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: China and the iPhone. Apple CEO Tim Cook spoke on 100 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: the earnings call. 101 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 9: If you look at our Greater China revenue for the quarter, 102 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 9: we were down eleven percent year over year, and over 103 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 9: half of the decline that we experienced was driven by 104 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 9: a change in channel inventory. 105 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: Apple CEO Tim Cook says sales this quarter will grow 106 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: by a percentage in the low two mid single digits, and. 107 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: Nathan Intel shares are up two percent. The chip maker 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: reported better than expected fourth quarter revenue, but did warrant 109 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: that it's pushed to become more competitive is still a 110 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: work in progress. However, Intel did not give a status 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: update on his search for a new CEO. 112 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: Now, Karen of Bloomberg News exclusive US officials are investigating 113 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: whether Chinese AI startup Deep Seek circum dented restrictions on 114 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: advanced chips from Nvidia. The Biden administration cut off China's 115 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: access to a range of Nvidia's most powerful chips. Now 116 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: we're told US officials are looking at whether they were 117 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: acquired through third parties in Singapore. Here's Bloomberg's Senior Executive 118 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: editor for Technology, Tom Giles. 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 11: This is a technology that deep Seek says is cheaper, 120 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 11: it was less expensive to develop, and now rivals like 121 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 11: Microsoft and Open Ai, as well as US officials including 122 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 11: the FBI and the White House the Treasury Department are 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 11: looking into where did they get this technology. 124 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Tom Giles notes President Trump's pick to lead the 125 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 3: Commerce Department, Howard Lutnick, is suggesting deep seak evaded US 126 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: export controls. 127 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 6: Time now for look at. 128 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: Some of the other stories making news in New York 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: and around the world, And for that we're joined by 130 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's John Tucker. John, good morning, and. 131 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 6: Good morning, Karen. 132 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 12: The US figure skating community mourning the loss of fourteen 133 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 12: members who were killed aboard the American Airlines flight the 134 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 12: Colis with that Army helicopter over the Potomac. Sixteen year 135 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 12: old Spencer Lane was one of the members of USA 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 12: Skating who was on board. His friend and fellow skater 137 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 12: Roan Lecoq, remembered him as an inspiration. 138 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 13: He had a really great future. It was really promising 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 13: for him. He had a lot of potential. It's really 140 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 13: heartbreaking just knowing that this was the outcome. 141 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 12: Members of USA Skating were flying back from a competition 142 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 12: in Wichita, Kansas. The Senate has voted seventy nine to 143 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 12: eighteen to confirm former North Dakota Governor Doug Bergham as 144 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 12: Interior Secretary. This as President Trump moves forward with implementing 145 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 12: his energy agenda. Berger will oversee the Interior Department, which 146 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 12: manages more than six hundred million acres of public land 147 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 12: at all federally owned oil, natural gas, at other minerals. 148 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 12: Uber is alleging a fraud scheme by New York groups 149 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 12: faking carkrash injuries. Let's get that story this morning from 150 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 12: Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 151 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 14: The ride sharing giant filed a racketeer ring lawsuit against 152 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 14: a group of law firms, doctors, and pain management clinics. 153 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 14: It claims staged fake car accidents and performed unnecessary surgeries 154 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 14: to take advantage of New York's lucrative no fault insurance policies. 155 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 14: In a lawsuit filed in federal court in Brooklyn, Uber 156 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 14: said since at least twenty nineteen, the group has conspired 157 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 14: quote to exploit passengers in purported or actual minor vehicle 158 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 14: collisions in New York. Charlie Powac Bloomberg Radio. 159 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 12: And Vertex Pharmaceuticals has gained US approval for the first 160 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 12: new type of painkiller in more than two decades. It 161 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 12: pays the way for a safer alternative to addictive opioids 162 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 12: that have been linked to hundreds of thousands of deaths 163 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 12: in the US. Global news twenty four hours a day 164 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 12: and whatever you want it with Bloomberg News. 165 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 15: Now. 166 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 12: I'm John Tucker, and this is Bloomberg. Karen. 167 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 6: All right, John, thank you. 168 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you 169 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: by Trice State Ownie. And for that we bring in 170 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: John Stamshower, John, good morning. 171 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Good morning, Care and spring training starts in less than 172 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: two weeks. Still some unsigned free agents like Pete Alonzo, 173 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: Alex Bregman, Max Schurzer. 174 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 14: Does now have his deal. 175 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: At age forty, he'll pitch an eighteenth big league season 176 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: for the Toronto Blue Jays. It's his seventh different team. 177 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: Scherzia has not been healthy much of the past two seasons, 178 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: only made nine starts in twenty twenty. 179 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 6: Four for Texas. 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: No New York Hockey or hoop teams played tonight and 181 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: only one played last night. That's the Islanders made it 182 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: six wins in a row, three nothing at Philadelphia, twenty 183 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: three saves for Ilias Sirroken. The Bruins lost to Winnipeg 184 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: sixty two. Jets scored four in the third period. Capital's 185 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: lost in overtime at Ottawa in defeat. Career goal number 186 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: eight seventy six for Alex Loveski. He's nineteen away from 187 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: breaking Wayne Gretzky's record. The Lakers won by thirty eight 188 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: in Washington and now Lebron in La come to the 189 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Garden to play the Red Hot Knicks tomorrow night. Good 190 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: MSG doubleheader at noon tomorrow at Saint John's, also Red Hot. 191 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: Taking on Providence Golf a pebble beech American Russell Henley 192 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: choine eight hunder sixty. Ford's got a one shot lid. 193 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: Rory McElroy trails by two. He started on the back 194 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: nine at Spyglass Hill. Here was Rory on the one 195 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen yard fifteenth hole, his sixth of the day. 196 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 10: Who has some adult spin control here playing downhill seven, 197 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 10: so it's one hundred and twelve yards and this looks 198 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 10: pretty good. 199 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 6: Hotly fluent in Ry Mcklelroy holy. 200 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: Cown straight in no bounced golf channel to call it's 201 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: his third career ace in a professional tournament. Later in 202 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: the day, Shane Lowry from Ireland also had a hole 203 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: in one on a different hole. Chaston Eagles arrived Sunday 204 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, hosting it's eleven Super Bowl time with 205 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: Miami for the most. NFL says all week they'll be 206 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: increased security in the wake of the terror attack in 207 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: New Orleans. On New Year's John Stanshanwer Bloomberg Sports Kenry 208 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: Nathan Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, and. 209 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 6: Around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the Bloomberg 210 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 6: Business app. This is Bloomberg Dbreak. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. 211 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: The investigation continues into the crash of American Eagle Flight 212 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: fifty three forty two of the Blackhawk helicopter outside Washington's 213 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: Reagan National Airport. 214 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 6: The disaster left no survivors. 215 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: Investigators now have the task of determining how this could 216 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: have happened in one of the most closely monitored skies 217 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: in the country. Joining us now for the latest is 218 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: Benedict Commell. Once again, he's head of global aviation coverage 219 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: for Bloomberg News. Benedict, good morning. As we understand it now, 220 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: the National Transportation Safety Board says it has recovered both 221 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: black boxes from that American Eagle jet. 222 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 6: What can we expect to learn from that evidence? Good morning, 223 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 6: Good morning. 224 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 15: Yes, indeed, those two black boxes have been recovered, and 225 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 15: that is in any inquiry, and an important line. They 226 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 15: contain voices from the cockpit. They also contain key metrics 227 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 15: of the flight performance, and those will be very closely 228 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 15: read out and then sort of analyzed. That will take time, 229 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 15: and that is essentially one key line from the NTSB 230 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 15: that we heard yesterday that this is not a quick turnaround, 231 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 15: and it never really is. If there's one thing that 232 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 15: can be said about typical air disaster crashes, if there 233 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 15: is such a thing, is that it takes time. They 234 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 15: work slowly, they work methodically. These are professionals, and they 235 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 15: want to piece all the pieces of evidence back together. 236 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 15: So they said, give us time, don't rush to any 237 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 15: quick conclusions. And in some ways that might have been 238 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 15: a bit of a sort of a nod to what 239 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 15: happened yesterday in Washington, where there were some rather swift 240 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 15: pronouncements of what might have happened. So the NTSB sort 241 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 15: of trying to put a bit of a brake on 242 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 15: it all and saying, we've got this, let us do 243 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 15: our work. So the black boxes will be a key 244 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 15: feature of that. Other areas that will be looked at 245 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 15: is the communications between the tower and the helicopter and 246 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 15: the aircraft. Might one of these aircraft have been out 247 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 15: of position or sort of at a wrong kind of altitude? 248 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 15: Was that hower properly starts? So there are lots of 249 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 15: elements to this investigation that will be monitored in the 250 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 15: next couple of days. 251 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: And we well, Benedict, when can we expect to get 252 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: firmer answers from not just the NTSB, but from so 253 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: many of the other agencies involved in this investigation. The 254 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: fact that we have a black Hawk helicopter involved means 255 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: the Pentagon is part of this as well. 256 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 15: Yes, you're right, So it is a blend of organizations 257 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 15: that are monitoring this and that are going through this. 258 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 15: The NTSB said there will be a pullinary preliminary report 259 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 15: in thirty days. We don't quite know at this point 260 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 15: what the Pentagon will say, so won't there will be 261 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 15: regular updates, but a proper report that will really establish 262 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 15: what might have happened. That will take time. Now, you 263 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 15: do have the political component in this, and we've got 264 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 15: a taste of that yesterday in the press conference by 265 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 15: President Donald Trump. He was flanked by Sean Duffy, the 266 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 15: new Transport Secretary, and Pete hess the new Defense Secretary, 267 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 15: and also j Evans, the Vice President. They were all 268 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 15: there in the same room and they all spoke, and 269 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 15: that obviously gave that entire investigation a more sort of 270 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 15: political tint. So those are sort of the different lines 271 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 15: of inquiry that will happen in you know, in parallel, 272 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 15: the NTSB, the Pentagon, and then the political dimension. 273 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: Now, in terms of the political dimension of this, Benedict 274 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: as we heard from the President yesterday, seemed to really 275 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: single out diversity, equity and inclusion programs within the Federal 276 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: Aviation Administration. 277 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 6: What do we know when. 278 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: It comes to staffing at places like air traffic control. 279 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 15: Well, the one thing that we do know, and this 280 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 15: is something that the head of the FAA and others 281 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 15: in that kind of space have lamented in the past, 282 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 15: that these are agencies that are understaffed, and it's something 283 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 15: that has been going on for a long time. This 284 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 15: isn't just a recent phenomenon. This is something that's gone 285 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 15: on for a long time and has become more pronounced 286 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 15: under COVID when a lot of people left the industry 287 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 15: and have not returned. So this is an industry that 288 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 15: still struggles with chronic understaffing and as trying to get 289 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 15: people back in. That's what we can say definitively. Now, obviously, 290 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 15: Trump went one step further and said we have not 291 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 15: just too few people, but the wrong types of people 292 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 15: in these types of jobs. I mean, he said, you know, 293 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 15: we need brilliant people doing this that those were his words, 294 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 15: and he said, I'm not quite sure that we have 295 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 15: those types of people. So he tried to create a 296 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 15: link between the DEI practices under his predecessor, under President 297 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 15: Biden and going back as far as President Obama and 298 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 15: what transpired over the skies of Washington, you know, less 299 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 15: than forty eight hours ago. So you could say that's 300 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 15: an unusual politicization of the tragedy, and that is a 301 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 15: narrative that will be closely watched. 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