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Speaker 2: hear from Frank Smith, Vic Fangio, Anthony Campanelli, Austin Clark,
Speaker 2: Ronaldo Hill, Joe Casper, Deshaun Elliott Kendall Lamb, David Long
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Speaker 2: with the news. It's very brief today Tanner Connor, Dolphin's
Speaker 2: second year tight end, was activated off the pup and
Speaker 2: was back out there at practice. Also got a look
Speaker 2: at Miles Gaskin back in the fold, alec Ingold back
Speaker 2: out there, saw Key on cross and getting some work
Speaker 2: back in, and also saw Cam Smith back out there
Speaker 2: part of eleven on eleven as well. So guys getting
Speaker 2: healthier as the team continues to prep for the final
Speaker 2: preseason game and eventually here just what nineteen days away
Speaker 2: now the season opener in Los Angeles versus the LA Chargers. Sometimes,
Speaker 2: in this business, or in this job, or whatever the
Speaker 2: heck we're gonna call it, things just go your way.
Speaker 2: And today was one of those days for me. I
Speaker 2: had questions for the coaches, primarily about like a handful
Speaker 2: of players, and then those guys after I got really
Speaker 2: good quotes from coaches and from those guys afterwards in
Speaker 2: practice as well went on to have some of the
Speaker 2: best days in all of practice, like Deshaun Elliott, who
Speaker 2: picked off a pass in a way that I thought
Speaker 2: was very indicative of how his game has kind of
Speaker 2: come together in the last week plus or so within
Speaker 2: this system, Within this scheme as obviously a handful of
Speaker 2: guys trying to learn the new system here in Miami.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask questions about Deshaun Elliott to
Speaker 2: Ronaldo Hill, to Joe Casper, the Dolphins safety coach, as
Speaker 2: well as DeShawn himself. Why don't we go ahead and
Speaker 2: kick this episode off with my chat with Dolphin Safety
Speaker 2: to Shawn Elliott. So, obviously, seeing you get the chance
Speaker 2: to play a couple of preseason games, I thought you
Speaker 2: looked fast as hell out there in the Houston game.
Speaker 2: How do you kind of feel the system clicking for
Speaker 2: you now? A few weeks in.
Speaker 4: I think that I'm finally starting, like feel comfortable and
Speaker 4: feel confident in the system. Then when I first got here,
Speaker 4: I was just kind of like on my place, especially
Speaker 4: the beginning of training camp, Like didn't get a chance
Speaker 4: to participating in tas, so like I kind of feel
Speaker 4: like I got on my up saying excuse my language
Speaker 4: and being in a training camp, and so I think
Speaker 4: finally starting to hit my rule. But I think me
Speaker 4: and Devan are starting to that's a lot better. I
Speaker 4: think day of the day, week the week, we'll be ready.
Speaker 3: For the season. I think we'll be fine.
Speaker 2: What ways do you think the system benefits your positive
Speaker 2: skill sets?
Speaker 4: Big wants to say the us to be aggressive and
Speaker 4: being aggressive with someone really good at I feel like
Speaker 4: and I think with the Java being next to me,
Speaker 4: he can help me ovay my game mentally more, I
Speaker 4: feel like I've always had aggressiveness.
Speaker 3: I think that I can just be a little bit better.
Speaker 4: When it comes to like reading routes and whatnot. I
Speaker 4: think that would help me can get the ball in
Speaker 4: my hands.
Speaker 5: At bit more.
Speaker 3: That's something I like in my career.
Speaker 4: Maybe I know I've been hurt about like even when
Speaker 4: I have played, I happened at the ball a lot,
Speaker 4: and I think.
Speaker 3: I could get back to my ballhall waves like I
Speaker 3: was in college.
Speaker 4: That was a pretty good hyeah on the head top
Speaker 4: one down.
Speaker 2: Oh you mentioned Javon, I saw him wearing that helmet.
Speaker 2: Can today something you guys all used to kind of
Speaker 2: go back through.
Speaker 4: That was our first time. We're used to it on defense,
Speaker 4: So Mike just wanted to see, I guess, just try
Speaker 4: it out. But I think he only had it for
Speaker 4: a couple of periods. But I think he wants to
Speaker 4: don't have to get it back again. But Michael was like, nah,
Speaker 4: you're good, I get it.
Speaker 3: But we'll see what the footage you're talking about. I
Speaker 3: think it's pretty cool we looking at looking at it
Speaker 3: from the quarterback respective, so seeing I can see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Mike always hangs out in the post of
Speaker 2: practice right watching from that viewsic, wants to get that.
Speaker 3: I guess Jabon's view.
Speaker 2: You know you mentioned Javon, like I've talked to a
Speaker 2: million people to just praise the way he sees the
Speaker 2: game and obviously the physical talents too, Like what have
Speaker 2: you taken from him in your short amount of time
Speaker 2: with playing with Javon?
Speaker 4: He's talking a couple things, especially like breathing because sometimes,
Speaker 4: like my breathing can be a little bit off the
Speaker 4: neck and kind of gave me ansty especially I already
Speaker 4: a jittery you got sometimes, so my breathing helps a lot.
Speaker 4: Him helped me how to breathe and kind of like
Speaker 4: help me slow down a little bit, like read things
Speaker 4: a bit sower.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think I'm a smart.
Speaker 4: Guy and I'm good at being a vocal leader on
Speaker 4: on the field, but I feel like this that like
Speaker 4: kind of like to help me get settled back in
Speaker 4: my like not just like having everybody else lined up
Speaker 4: and beginning me back to why I can make plays myself.
Speaker 3: I think that's helped me a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so take care of take on routs and match
Speaker 4: and rouse better when I breathed.
Speaker 2: Like that, Yeah, I thought you playing down on the
Speaker 2: red zone was pretty pretty good. The spreciation is that
Speaker 2: that fourth that four down stop two players right where
Speaker 2: you were, you were gonna get there.
Speaker 3: But the yeah rush, oh yeah that was gonna be
Speaker 3: I was getting it pretty close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So just watching practice helped me as an amateur,
Speaker 2: you know football sabond as I call myself, just trying
Speaker 2: to kind of read things as they play out. It
Speaker 2: seems like busts are few and far between. It seems
Speaker 2: like the roof is always in the defense. And you guys,
Speaker 2: like I noticed a lot of deep balls that go
Speaker 2: and completely like you guys are kind of dapping each
Speaker 2: other up, Like, yeah, that was good ship? Am I
Speaker 2: seeing that right?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: Are you guys connecting to the defense of what the
Speaker 2: rules are here? Pretty quickly?
Speaker 5: Of course?
Speaker 4: I thought, especially now, I think that we are holding
Speaker 4: each other accountable, because that's the thing like holding it
Speaker 4: too much accountable, seekhold yourself accountable.
Speaker 3: And I think that fees a long way for us.
Speaker 4: And I think we know you you lose games the
Speaker 4: big big is supposed to play, so we always talk
Speaker 4: about nothing over twenty yards. So make sure you don't
Speaker 4: give no, not for twenty yards, and just make sure
Speaker 4: you're just kind of like it, don't break up of defense.
Speaker 4: And I think once you've been and don't break it,
Speaker 4: and the ton of overs happened, and the force of
Speaker 4: offense to mess up once they messed up, you take
Speaker 4: advantage of those situations.
Speaker 2: Last one for you, McDaniel McDaniels, how he hasn't heard
Speaker 2: that from several of you guys must talked about it,
Speaker 2: like the guys have talked about it, just kind of
Speaker 2: talk about how how detailed VIC is and what separates
Speaker 2: him from you know, he's he's HEROLD is this great
Speaker 2: all time?
Speaker 1: DC?
Speaker 2: Why is he in that ranking.
Speaker 4: You think, I feel like because he expects perfection and
Speaker 4: he's not gonna.
Speaker 3: Be su He's gonna tell you.
Speaker 4: Exactly what it is, gonna be like, oh you did okay?
Speaker 3: That he's gonna tell you. I don't like that.
Speaker 4: And I think he ain't played this better and tighter,
Speaker 4: and he's gonna be very on you about certain things,
Speaker 4: and I think that's best for us. I don't think
Speaker 4: sugarcoating is good for us. I think as long as
Speaker 4: he's being himself, that's what's gonna get out get the
Speaker 4: best out of us. He's gonna play the best players,
Speaker 4: don't matter who it is as well. If you're gonna
Speaker 4: have there doing your job and making place, he's gonna
Speaker 4: play you. He doesn't care about about status, gonna care
Speaker 4: about contracts, and but now that he cares about ball,
Speaker 4: he's all ball and that's what I appreciate abot him.
Speaker 2: We know about Deshaun's ability to come down on the
Speaker 2: lumber both in the running game, you know, from depth
Speaker 2: at the safety position after the fact or after the catch.
Speaker 2: I should say, but I think that the way that
Speaker 2: he's kind of putting himself in position to make those
Speaker 2: plays in camp has been evident throughout and it just
Speaker 2: continues to get sharper and tighter. And you heard him
Speaker 2: talk about it there, like getting all the mess ups
Speaker 2: out of the way early as you kind of work
Speaker 2: your way through OTAs in training camp to fine tune
Speaker 2: your game and hone in on the things you want
Speaker 2: specifically drill, you know, come the regular season. I think
Speaker 2: you've seen that progression with the Sean elliott I think
Speaker 2: you've seen it with a lot of the players on
Speaker 2: this defense going back from OTAs all the way through
Speaker 2: training camp. And you know it's not learning quickly. You
Speaker 2: know in this job that training camp results are not
Speaker 2: the end all be all. But going back to last
Speaker 2: year and even comparing training camps feels like maybe a
Speaker 2: little bit disingenuous, But like I said to him in
Speaker 2: that interview, just the number of deep balls, the communication bust,
Speaker 2: the things breaking down in the back end. And last
Speaker 2: year we had all the injuries that certainly piled up,
Speaker 2: and there's been even more depth added this year. But
Speaker 2: it's been a very tangible difference this season, I think
Speaker 2: against an offense that's pretty similar in terms of the
Speaker 2: you know, the playmakers haven't had you know Gilen wadloat
Speaker 2: here for a little bit now, and we've seen some
Speaker 2: guys banged up in and out of the lineup, but
Speaker 2: for the most part, I think you can kind of
Speaker 2: track the defensive progress and the way they've taken to
Speaker 2: the scheme with the production they've had in these practices
Speaker 2: and now through two preseason games of the defense has
Speaker 2: been really, really good. So you heard from Deshan Elliott there.
Speaker 2: I want to play some more sound and kind of
Speaker 2: play this theme throughout the course of the podcast, because
Speaker 2: I was really curious to get people's takes on Vic Fangio,
Speaker 2: one of my favorite Twitter accounts out there at the
Speaker 2: Honest NFL, and he touched on the idea of how
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio has installed this defense so many times in
Speaker 2: his career, or you know, variations or core principles of
Speaker 2: the defense that that year one, you know, learning curve
Speaker 2: isn't quite as steep for a coach like him, and
Speaker 2: a lot of that is because of the detail and
Speaker 2: the way he really emphasizes the rules and gives you
Speaker 2: exactly what to expect or what he expects. So I
Speaker 2: kind of used that and went about the coaching staff
Speaker 2: and the players and asked those questions. Let's start here
Speaker 2: with Dolphin safety coach Joe Casper.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, Vick is the best in maybe in the
Speaker 1: history of the game at details, fundamentals and technique. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a world class coach that goes without being said.
Speaker 3: You don't need you know, you don't need.
Speaker 1: Me to tell you that, but he's on top of
Speaker 1: it in terms of details, fundamentals, techniques, and that's something
Speaker 1: we try and do every single day. Harp On is, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the fundamentals associated with the job? How do we
Speaker 1: train those in indie, how do we train those in
Speaker 1: the team periods, how do we comment on those, correct
Speaker 1: those post practice in the film sessions. But the details
Speaker 1: is so important to me is it's not just do
Speaker 1: your job, it's do your job with savvy. And there's
Speaker 1: freedom within our schematics to be able to accentuate guys'
Speaker 1: abilities differently, and we want them to take advantage of
Speaker 1: that freedom and that detailed understanding to not just do
Speaker 1: do check a box, but to take it to the
Speaker 1: next level and do your job with savvy, do the
Speaker 1: extra that's within yourself to be able to execute at
Speaker 1: a high level and right now. We've got a group
Speaker 1: that's done a great job with that through two preseason
Speaker 1: games and.
Speaker 2: Then back to coach caspron the similar idea of how
Speaker 2: the install can happen quicker when you have an experienced
Speaker 2: coach like Vic Fangio.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, I think that anytime you come
Speaker 1: in and you're working within a scheme like this, you're
Speaker 1: definitely going to have some hiccups. We've gone through a
Speaker 1: lot of those in spring. We had a really devoted
Speaker 1: group in the spring, and we've come back now in
Speaker 1: fall camp and these guys, it's on the players. The
Speaker 1: players have done such a phenomenal job of taking to
Speaker 1: the scheme, taking to the execution, owning the execution within that.
Speaker 1: They've just done outstanding and that's why you don't see
Speaker 1: those things right now.
Speaker 3: Knock on wood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the players have owned that, and you know that's
Speaker 1: a tribute to them. It's a tribute to Javon's leadership
Speaker 1: in the room, even guys like Jalen Ramsey's.
Speaker 6: Leadership within the room, X's leadership within the room to
Speaker 6: execute those details so that we can get into some
Speaker 6: of that that savvy that I'm speaking on because we're
Speaker 6: not dealing with day one one type corrections as much,
Speaker 6: and that's that's that's to the players.
Speaker 2: Credit to the players credit again that theme of communication
Speaker 2: on the back end and things just being really buttoned
Speaker 2: up tightly. Wanted to go to passing game coordinator Ronaldo
Speaker 2: Hill to get his take on how he's viewed the
Speaker 2: communication in that back end and how things are coming together. Now,
Speaker 2: what are we three four weeks in the camp?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I really like the way that guys
Speaker 7: have been progressing. We talk about, you know, having an
Speaker 7: ownership and quarterback in the back end, and you know,
Speaker 7: I think those guys have been doing a really good
Speaker 7: job and they're finding their niche within it. And that's
Speaker 7: what you want because we know when Sunday hits, you know,
Speaker 7: to be live bullets and they got to be able
Speaker 7: to go out there and solve problems, and they're doing
Speaker 7: a good.
Speaker 6: Job with it.
Speaker 2: I mentioned we did see camp Smith back on the
Speaker 2: practice field today. He was involved in team drills and
Speaker 2: found himself around the football once again. And that's been
Speaker 2: a theme throughout the course of camp with really the
Speaker 2: entire defensive backfield. Guys that know how to anticipate what
Speaker 2: they're about to see and start driving and putting themselves
Speaker 2: in position to get their ahead of the football arriving
Speaker 2: or the player making his break. And camp Smith, you know,
Speaker 2: you go back to his college tape at South Carolina,
Speaker 2: and the great Brett Coleman over at the Bootleg Football
Speaker 2: Podcast just continues to rave about how much he loved
Speaker 2: his tape at South Carolina on the Dolphins preview episode
Speaker 2: really kind of put his stamp on approval of the
Speaker 2: camp Smith pick because of those instincts and how it
Speaker 2: really translates or is portable to the Vic Fangio defense.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask cam Smith, how does this
Speaker 2: defense translate to a player that has instincts like you
Speaker 2: showed in college.
Speaker 8: A lot of kind of you wouldn't You're not really
Speaker 8: gonna call it help because you're not you really don't
Speaker 8: think about having the help during the play. But a
Speaker 8: lot of moving pieces to the defense, So it's a
Speaker 8: lot of windows that are cut off and stuff like that.
Speaker 8: So having that and then having a corner like me
Speaker 8: just having the instincts to go in and go get it,
Speaker 8: you can just have a lot more pass breakers, a
Speaker 8: lot more picks with the defense.
Speaker 2: That we are running. So there was a very competitive
Speaker 2: red zone period in that practice today where more of
Speaker 2: the same, just everything was super tight. Every pass was contested,
Speaker 2: the offense got some of theirs. I thought Tua did
Speaker 2: a really good job of finding outlets and finding the
Speaker 2: short game to the running back, the tight end and
Speaker 2: putting them in positions to run after the catch. Had
Speaker 2: a really good throat to Baxton Barrier, Braxton Barrios down
Speaker 2: by the front pylon. And I watched the practice today
Speaker 2: with Oj McDuffie, who loves him some Braxton Barrios go
Speaker 2: figure right. OJ's skill set kind of translates to what
Speaker 2: Braxon Barrios does so well from his playing days. And
Speaker 2: there was a catch where Barrios caught it short of
Speaker 2: the of the front pylon and of course by the sideline,
Speaker 2: and just the way he was able to transition kind
Speaker 2: of flip the hips and pivot upfield and fall forward
Speaker 2: into the end zone. I was like, like, that seems
Speaker 2: so innocuous, Juice, but not many guys like have that
Speaker 2: ability to find that way forward. He said that was
Speaker 2: my game too, was catch the ball near the sticks
Speaker 2: and make sure you get it past the sticks or
Speaker 2: in this case the goal line, and we just kind
Speaker 2: of marveled at how these fine details keep showing up
Speaker 2: within Braxton Barrios's game and how you can really appreciate that,
Speaker 2: and how fitting it is that his wide receivers coach
Speaker 2: is Wes Welker, who that was his entire career, you know,
Speaker 2: making plays where he was just smarter than the opposition,
Speaker 2: put himself in the right spot by his preparation, his
Speaker 2: film study, and overall just football acumen. I think you're
Speaker 2: seeing a lot of that with Braxton Barrios. But the defense,
Speaker 2: like I said, was also very contestant on a lot
Speaker 2: of these plays. We had hands on footballs. Javon Holland
Speaker 2: had a pick that was a really nice playoff a
Speaker 2: deflection from Xavier and Howard working around the top of
Speaker 2: a route on Cedric Wilson with Skyler Thompson at quarterback.
Speaker 2: He pokes it into the air and Javon gets the
Speaker 2: pick and brings it back for six. We saw the
Speaker 2: really good Deshaun Elliott picked down the field that was
Speaker 2: off of a pass from Tua where he got range
Speaker 2: and found his depth and found the landmark on a
Speaker 2: deep attempt to Braxton Barrios again, and Elliott really skided
Speaker 2: over the top of that and made the play in
Speaker 2: a really impressive fashion where he kind of got up
Speaker 2: there and you heard me talking about you know, I
Speaker 2: think he said over the top of the dome on
Speaker 2: that interview with him. It's because he skied over the
Speaker 2: top of both he and the corner and pulled that
Speaker 2: ball down, really kind of showing the playmaking skills that
Speaker 2: he alluded to in that interview. So just it's funny
Speaker 2: how I was really focused on safety today and both
Speaker 2: Deshaun and Javon got picks, and really the entire secondary
Speaker 2: just continues to pass things off and understand their rules
Speaker 2: and really clamp down. And I think it really shows
Speaker 2: itself both and how they limit the deep passing game,
Speaker 2: but also how they defend in the red zone where
Speaker 2: things do get super tight. Now, Tua did have a
Speaker 2: couple of absolute seeds Tyreek Hill. You saw the one
Speaker 2: video on social media where he just took a takeoff route,
Speaker 2: threw it up top and Ethan Bonnard was in really
Speaker 2: good shape on that play, but the ball just went
Speaker 2: right over the top right and stride. Tyreek catches it
Speaker 2: takes off for six the play before that I thought
Speaker 2: was even more impressive, and I want to play some
Speaker 2: sound for you here in a moment with Frank Smith
Speaker 2: where I asked him about, you know, how the Dolphins
Speaker 2: found success throwing the ball outside in that preseason game,
Speaker 2: and how that can kind of counter what you were
Speaker 2: successful with last year with all the middle of the
Speaker 2: field passing, and how this offense now seems to really
Speaker 2: have even more capabilities of stressing or stretching the entire
Speaker 2: field and stressing every blade of glass, plate of grass
Speaker 2: that forces the defense to defend every blade of grass
Speaker 2: with all the speed they have. And the quarterback that
Speaker 2: processes so well and plays the game from the head
Speaker 2: up or the neck up so sharply, with how he
Speaker 2: just kind of drills in these fine details and can
Speaker 2: get the ball out fast and processes things so quickly.
Speaker 2: And you know, to OJ's credit again or OJ's point,
Speaker 2: he talked about how just watching two of these practices
Speaker 2: compared to last year, looks everything looks sharper, it looks
Speaker 2: like there's more zip on the ball. He looks faster
Speaker 2: and more athletic, which obviously you'd love to hear that.
Speaker 2: So I do want to come back and play that
Speaker 2: sound from Frank Smith. Let's go ahead and finish up
Speaker 2: this segment here with back in the defensive backfield. I
Speaker 2: got sound from Ronaldo Hill on, Javon Holland and Deshaun Elliott.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and play at first.
Speaker 7: On Javon Holland, I think it just gives you the
Speaker 7: element of other things that what can you do with
Speaker 7: him within the system. You know, I can say he's
Speaker 7: a major talent, you know, one of the best I've
Speaker 7: I've been around so South coach as far as the coverability,
Speaker 7: tackling boss track and just running the show back there.
Speaker 7: He has all those elements. So really excited what he
Speaker 7: brings to the table and excited.
Speaker 2: For him for And then of course on Deshaun Elliott.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's He's definitely dove right into the system. He
Speaker 7: asks a lot of good questions, you know, all the
Speaker 7: reps that well, you know he's in there with Javon.
Speaker 7: I see him taking ownership and trying to command his partner. So, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, everything I've been seeing about him been really positive.
Speaker 7: You know, we got a you know, some good guys
Speaker 7: back there that's really been competing and pushing to play
Speaker 7: opposite Javon, So all right, but everything I've been seeing
Speaker 7: so far, love of what I'm seeing.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a break right there and
Speaker 2: come back on the other side. And here from Frank Smith,
Speaker 2: Here from Vic Fangio, we'll hear from Austin Clark, and
Speaker 2: Anthony Campanelli played to come here. On the Drive Time podcast,
Speaker 2: your host Travis Wingfield brought to you by automation. I
Speaker 2: mentioned the picks from Deshaun Elliott and Javon holland Elijah
Speaker 2: Campbell had his hands on a football in the end
Speaker 2: zone and did not secure the catch, and it was
Speaker 2: kind of cool to see both Deshaun and Javon really
Speaker 2: getting on Elijah about getting giving him twenty push ups.
Speaker 2: And I guess it's supposed to be ten when you
Speaker 2: don't catch an interception in the field, but when you
Speaker 2: drop one in the end zone, it's twenty push ups.
Speaker 2: So Elijah kind of got on and from the other
Speaker 2: guys for dropping that pick, but he continues to put
Speaker 2: himself in positions to make plays and finds his hands
Speaker 2: on Football's quite a lot that safety room is really
Speaker 2: developing into something where I think you have a lot
Speaker 2: of versatility, guys that can play the post, come down
Speaker 2: and play the box, go line up over a slot
Speaker 2: and cover there. It's just I think that versatility is very, very,
Speaker 2: very impressive, and I think there's some depth in that
Speaker 2: room as a result of that. So I mentioned on
Speaker 2: the other side that I was going to hear from
Speaker 2: Frank Smith on that throwing the ball out for the
Speaker 2: numbers concept and the idea of what we saw in
Speaker 2: practice with the deep ball to Tyreek today and one
Speaker 2: down the scene, one up the sideline. Let's go ahead first, though,
Speaker 2: and go back to one last question here. I guess
Speaker 2: the first question with Vic Fangio, and you might recall
Speaker 2: on the yet on yesterday's podcast and yesterday's media availability
Speaker 2: for Mike McDaniel, he mentioned some similarities and differences between
Speaker 2: he and Vic Fangio. So Fangio was asked the same question,
Speaker 2: what are some similarities between you and the head coach
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 9: I think similarities are. You know, we kind of do
Speaker 9: look at the schematic part of the game in a
Speaker 9: like manner. Obviously, our personalities and way way about going
Speaker 9: about doing things is different but no different than anybody else,
Speaker 9: are similar in some ways different than others.
Speaker 2: All right, So I've touched on it a few times. Now,
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and play the audio from Frank Smith
Speaker 2: on how this offense wants to be able to attack
Speaker 2: all parts of the field. And again we saw it
Speaker 2: successful last year and multiple parts, but primarily the middle
Speaker 2: of the football field. And then in preseason in that
Speaker 2: last game, a really couple of good throws to the outside,
Speaker 2: you know, working off leverage to durham smyth throwing out
Speaker 2: wide to Braxton Burrios working off that wall defender in
Speaker 2: the middle of a zone coverage. Really impressive stuff there
Speaker 2: from two end Barrios. Let's go to the Dolphins oc
Speaker 2: on working all parts of the field to maximize the
Speaker 2: skills you have on offense.
Speaker 10: You know, this time of year, we're obviously working on
Speaker 10: our execution and all faces of the offense.
Speaker 3: So whether it's inside or outside.
Speaker 10: The numbers, I mean, if it's vital for us to
Speaker 10: understand what we're trying to accomplish of the concepts, So
Speaker 10: I mean, it's all about what the defensive presents, all right,
Speaker 10: what we're trying to attack, all right, with the inside
Speaker 10: of it.
Speaker 3: So the opportunity to work that part of.
Speaker 10: The offense is a great and you know things like
Speaker 10: this next week, each day we're having emphasis points, so
Speaker 10: continued growth and after that are he's the great first.
Speaker 2: So on that vertical throw that Tua had to tyreek
Speaker 2: before the one that you saw, he really did a
Speaker 2: good job of dropping this football, Like I continue to
Speaker 2: be so impressed by twoa's ball placement, and OJ mentioned
Speaker 2: this during practice two was just really a raving about
Speaker 2: the locations that Tua gives his receivers a chance to
Speaker 2: make a play on. It's fun to watch practice with
Speaker 2: a guy who did this for almost a decade at
Speaker 2: this level, who can really appreciate, you know, a quarterback
Speaker 2: giving him the maximum opportunity to make a play. There
Speaker 2: was a throw into the end zone to Eric Azukama
Speaker 2: down in the red zone period where he and the
Speaker 2: dB are running towards the back pylon, and it was
Speaker 2: really well covered. There was really nothing there, but Tua
Speaker 2: kind of threw it high and behind Azukama and gave
Speaker 2: him a chance to make a play. And as Zukama
Speaker 2: tips the ball one hand and lays out and makes
Speaker 2: a one handed catch in the end zone and he
Speaker 2: ended up not getting both feet down and so it's incomplete,
Speaker 2: and you know it looks if you're just you know,
Speaker 2: watching as a first time football viewer, like, oh, that
Speaker 2: ball was behind him, but the intentional placement to put
Speaker 2: him into that position to give him a chance. Was
Speaker 2: he that so often to watch that with OJ, it
Speaker 2: was just really cool from that perch above the indoor facility.
Speaker 2: And so then we came back with the two deep shots.
Speaker 2: And obviously anytime you can drop it in stride to
Speaker 2: Tyreek downfield for a long touchdown, that's a good play.
Speaker 2: But there was a play just like two snaps prior,
Speaker 2: there was a running play sandwich in between the two
Speaker 2: of them. But on this one, I was so impressed
Speaker 2: because Twa rips it right up the numbers and Tyreek
Speaker 2: is like, there's a corner trailing underneath in a safety
Speaker 2: right over the top, and he just like I almost
Speaker 2: would compare it to if you have a car driving
Speaker 2: past you, like right in front of you down the street,
Speaker 2: you want to try to throw a football through the
Speaker 2: driver's side window, Like that's kind of how he had
Speaker 2: to fit that thing in there. And let's say the
Speaker 2: car was going, you know, twenty five miles an hour.
Speaker 2: Is not an easy throw, right, He just jams this
Speaker 2: thing into the window. Like the only time he could
Speaker 2: have thrown it was when he did throw it, and
Speaker 2: the location was the only place he could put it,
Speaker 2: and that's where he did put it. And so Tyreek
Speaker 2: just is able to you know, with the way he
Speaker 2: has his balance and his speed and the way it
Speaker 2: all comes together. Basically does like a little drop step pivot,
Speaker 2: catches it on the back hip and spins out of
Speaker 2: the tackle and takes off for another long I think
Speaker 2: a scoring play. If not, you know, a huge gainer.
Speaker 2: So those two guys finding their rhythm, finding that downfield attack,
Speaker 2: and really having answers to everything a defense can throw
Speaker 2: you seems to be kind of the progression of this
Speaker 2: training camp and putting a complete offense together in your
Speaker 2: second year. We heard coach McDowell talk about the running
Speaker 2: game yesterday and how he feels the development of the
Speaker 2: running game has kind of come into its own in
Speaker 2: the second year. In the system. You see the Dolphins
Speaker 2: passing attack having multiple answers to what defenses might do
Speaker 2: to them. I think you're seeing that play out day
Speaker 2: in and day out here at Dolphins camp and makes
Speaker 2: me very excited for the regular season. Let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and pivot now back to the defensive side of the football.
Speaker 2: Let's see what do I want to talk about here.
Speaker 2: Let's go talk about about David Long, because he had
Speaker 2: himself a heck of a football game on Saturday night
Speaker 2: and talk to the media today a little bit about
Speaker 2: that game. And let's go ahead and start here with
Speaker 2: the tackle for lost play he made where he came
Speaker 2: downhill and really triggered and and made that huge stuck
Speaker 2: in the backfield. Here's David Long and what he saw
Speaker 2: and how it felt to make that big TfL behind
Speaker 2: the line scrimmage.
Speaker 3: It feels good. First, I was excited just to get back.
Speaker 11: I haven't played since last year, so I was decided
Speaker 11: to get back out there. And just I was just
Speaker 11: trying to like that whole drive. I was just trying
Speaker 11: to make it play. My my big thing is making
Speaker 11: a play behind the line of scremers. So I was
Speaker 11: just trying to, you know, get a read for the
Speaker 11: stuff I've uh win against the practice all week and
Speaker 11: just getting a red for the the tackles stance and
Speaker 11: his how heavy he is and his in his hands
Speaker 11: and just you know, just getting back into my you know,
Speaker 11: uh pre snapreeds and just getting back into his football mode.
Speaker 11: So it just felt good to actually just trust myself
Speaker 11: and just shoot and just like just continue to build
Speaker 11: on that.
Speaker 2: I was curious to fall up with David about how
Speaker 2: the anticipation of really his entire job, how that played out.
Speaker 2: Is that something you do, you know, is does it
Speaker 2: come together in the film room? Is it something you
Speaker 2: have to piece together in the twenty five seconds you
Speaker 2: have where you know, the offense breaks the huddler, or
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds whatever it might be, where you kind of
Speaker 2: read cues and stuff. Here he is talking about the
Speaker 2: ability to anticipate, which is obviously such a strength of
Speaker 2: his game.
Speaker 11: Exactly, I'm like that play, I'm like this tight end
Speaker 11: block down, I'm shooting this gap, and then that he's
Speaker 11: exactly what I'm doing sometimes and then like I think
Speaker 11: a couple of plays later it was the same play,
Speaker 11: but I'm like the whole too big. I don't even
Speaker 11: I feel like, well, I'm just just getting the feel
Speaker 11: for the game again, you know, just getting back into
Speaker 11: my style of player.
Speaker 2: And I was also fascinated to see or to hear
Speaker 2: him talk about beating blocks because I saw him sidestep
Speaker 2: a pulling guard. I saw him take on a center
Speaker 2: trying to climb to the second level and just beating
Speaker 2: him with physicality. It's really impressive to watch. How does
Speaker 2: that come together in the moment when this game and
Speaker 2: all the stuff happens. It's such a flash.
Speaker 11: It's in a moment, but then it's on the run
Speaker 11: as well. It's just like, I don't know, he's some
Speaker 11: big guys, so he could get a jump on me
Speaker 11: as well. Now either have to we're up and run
Speaker 11: through or square shit. It's just like just being able
Speaker 11: to get a feel for the game.
Speaker 3: All let's go.
Speaker 2: Ahead and finish up this topic with coach Campanelli, Dolphins
Speaker 2: linebackers coach. I asked him the same thing about how
Speaker 2: David Long's anticipation helps the entire room and really the
Speaker 2: entire defense make plays.
Speaker 12: I think just there's a good communication when those guys
Speaker 12: are in together and really just collectively all of the guys.
Speaker 12: I've been pleased with that in camp, like just everybody
Speaker 12: kind of first of all, it being a new system
Speaker 12: for everybody, you know, and everybody's communication really has has
Speaker 12: been a big part of them getting better and better,
Speaker 12: and they're doing a good job with that, you know,
Speaker 12: And and David's really you know, he obviously has been
Speaker 12: in Tennessee and did a really good job there and
Speaker 12: sees the game really well, and it's definitely been a
Speaker 12: good addition for us.
Speaker 2: A little bit of chatter there in the background, do
Speaker 2: apologize for that. Let's go ahead and go right back
Speaker 2: to camp about the complimentary skill sets of David Long
Speaker 2: and Jerome Baker, as we saw both those guys make
Speaker 2: plays in the game on Saturday.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that, you know, David's an explosive guy,
Speaker 12: you know, good tackle or the physical guy in the
Speaker 12: run game, and you know Bake is the same way.
Speaker 12: So it's it's fun to have two guys in there
Speaker 12: that can run under your hood. And you know, we're
Speaker 12: both really sharp guys.
Speaker 1: So that's been fun.
Speaker 2: Sort of a sidebar here, but since I had Coach
Speaker 2: wanted to ask him what he's seen so far in
Speaker 2: the growth of Channing Tyndall, second year linebacker. Here's Coach
Speaker 2: Camp on the former Georgia bulldogger.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think he's just like I said, with a
Speaker 12: couple of the other guys becoming comfortable in the system,
Speaker 12: you know, like anything else, and what reps you get
Speaker 12: at it, obviously the better you feel. So it's it's
Speaker 12: a work in progress, but he's doing a good job
Speaker 12: and definitely see your improvements, you know, incrementally each week.
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Let's go ahead and take
Speaker 2: our last break and come back on the other side.
Speaker 2: I still have audio from coach Austin Clark as well
Speaker 2: as Dolphins tackle Kendall Lamb. Good stuff from both those guys.
Speaker 2: That's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought
Speaker 2: to you by I don'tation before we dive back into
Speaker 2: the audios. Let's go ahead and get some more practice
Speaker 2: notes for y'all. I thought Zach Seeler had one of
Speaker 2: his most impressive days of work. The way this guy
Speaker 2: eats up double teams, the way this guy just plays,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty much any front or call they want
Speaker 2: to give him, he just handles all of that. It's
Speaker 2: really impressive to watch him go about his work, especially
Speaker 2: you know, taking on someone like Rob Hunt and Connor Williams,
Speaker 2: two very good players, and he just kind of bangs
Speaker 2: with those guys and they trade wins back and forth.
Speaker 2: But seeler getting hands on football still. I just it's
Speaker 2: so nice to know what you have in those positions
Speaker 2: and really across the defense. Like me and OJ were
Speaker 2: talking about the lineup they run out there, you know
Speaker 2: with when it goes one v ones and it's just
Speaker 2: every position you're like, damn, that's a good player. Oh
Speaker 2: that's another really good player. This guy that could go
Speaker 2: to the Pro Bowl this year. It's just this defense
Speaker 2: has a lot of talent. Man. I think it's coming
Speaker 2: together for him. One of my favorite plays was they
Speaker 2: threw a quick route to Eric Azukama and he took
Speaker 2: off up the sideline after being tagged off. And we've
Speaker 2: seen in Christian Wilkins do this, We've seen Jaylen Phillips
Speaker 2: do it. This time it was Phillips who took off
Speaker 2: after Azukama, and Azukama's was he like a like a
Speaker 2: four to four eight or a four or five for
Speaker 2: just really fast. JP takes off after him down the
Speaker 2: field and actually like kept with him and caught up
Speaker 2: to him and you know, kind of like ripped the
Speaker 2: proverbial or imaginary flag he would have if you're playing
Speaker 2: flag football. I was like, look at fifteen down there,
Speaker 2: like that guy's what two hundred and fifty pounds or whatever.
Speaker 2: He is just running full speed down the field, keeping
Speaker 2: up with wide receivers. One of the specimen he is.
Speaker 2: So they had a bunch of good stuff. Now, Savon Ahmed,
Speaker 2: as I sit here in praise the defensive line work,
Speaker 2: he had himself another big run today, not that dissimilar
Speaker 2: to the big run against the Houston Texans. Man he
Speaker 2: took off and was out the gate for another big
Speaker 2: run and I think he might have finished this one
Speaker 2: with a potential touchdown if he could have ran away
Speaker 2: from I think it was Eli Apple on the play.
Speaker 2: So Savon Aachmed continues to hit the big plays. Offense
Speaker 2: had some plays. Defense had some plays as well. Let's
Speaker 2: go back to the defensive side here and hear from
Speaker 2: coach Clark because the guy that continues to fascinate me
Speaker 2: is DeShawn Hand and the way that DeShawn Hand has
Speaker 2: shown up and it really made plays. You know, Vic
Speaker 2: Fangio praised him in his press conference a little bit.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and hear from coach Clark on DeShawn
Speaker 2: Han's arrival and the impact he's had already.
Speaker 5: Yeah, physical player, heavy hands. You know, obviously he's played
Speaker 5: a lot of ball. He's come in with a workman's
Speaker 5: like mentality every day, very very smart, you know, and again,
Speaker 5: you know, it's only been two weeks with him, but
Speaker 5: I think he's done a great job so far.
Speaker 2: And then, of course in that defensive line room, the
Speaker 2: coach Clark has you have so many players who've been
Speaker 2: together for a while. Now, what's it like bringing a
Speaker 2: new guy and integrating him into a room where there's
Speaker 2: so much familiarity and so much friendships and bonds that
Speaker 2: have been developed over the last several years. Here's coach
Speaker 2: on how DeShawn Hans fitting in.
Speaker 5: I'll say what's been great about him is, you know,
Speaker 5: there's some background being around Raykwana, Alabama, and from a
Speaker 5: technique perspective, you know, he plays with his hands, he's
Speaker 5: he's a really physical guy. And I would say the
Speaker 5: one thing people might not know about him is how
Speaker 5: smart this guy is. You know, he originally wanted to
Speaker 5: be a civil engineer at Alabama and he's picked up
Speaker 5: things so fast, and it feels like he's been here
Speaker 5: for a couple of months, even though it's only been
Speaker 5: two weeks.
Speaker 2: Lastly, I think that Emmanuel Ogba had a really good
Speaker 2: game on Saturday night and coming off of a good
Speaker 2: preseason debut against the Atlanta Falcons, and I think that
Speaker 2: today's practice we saw another TfL where he just uses
Speaker 2: those long arms of his to really hold a point
Speaker 2: and get off blocks and make plays, especially in the
Speaker 2: running game. And I talked to Coach Clark about that
Speaker 2: play in the Houston Texans game where they had those
Speaker 2: run stuffs after the initial interception that TWOA threw and
Speaker 2: how they pretty much gave nothing in the ground game,
Speaker 2: and a lot of that was based upon Sealer and
Speaker 2: Ogba and ray Kwon Davis and Deshan Hann really holding
Speaker 2: the point and especially Ogball off the edge. And you
Speaker 2: think about Ogba's skill set and how he's kind of
Speaker 2: different from the rest of the guys in terms of
Speaker 2: what he offers. I wanted to ask Coach Clark about
Speaker 2: the value of that and the versatility a manual Ogball offers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, his versatility is huge for us, And I would
Speaker 5: say Ogma's done a phenomenal job learning different roles and
Speaker 5: to go pop into that game and the first play
Speaker 5: we're down there and throw that in there. I thought
Speaker 5: he did a great job, and you know, for him,
Speaker 5: if you're not as smart as he is, you may
Speaker 5: not be able to handle a lot of roles. But
Speaker 5: he's done a heck of a job, and you know
Speaker 5: he's gonna keep getting better and better, all right.
Speaker 2: I wanted to conclude the podcast with a couple of
Speaker 2: soundbites here from Kendall Lamb, who discussed playing in the
Speaker 2: second year of the offense, even though it was just
Speaker 2: thirty two steps a season ago. What's the benefit of
Speaker 2: coming back in this offense and playing in the second year.
Speaker 13: Familiarity with anything helps, especially being with the guys, especially
Speaker 13: hearing the calls. You know last year when I came
Speaker 13: in to be completely real with you, when I came
Speaker 13: in towards halfway through the season, it's like I understood,
Speaker 13: but at the same time, like not being able to
Speaker 13: go through this time and this process is major, especially
Speaker 13: I mean this is being year nine for me. I
Speaker 13: look forward to training camp because this is the time
Speaker 13: where you really get to grind. This is the time
Speaker 13: where I get to feel, this is the time where
Speaker 13: I true to get to put the weight on someone
Speaker 13: each and every day. And then at the same time,
Speaker 13: like of course when the season comes, we don't necessarily
Speaker 13: do this as much. So it's like for me hearing
Speaker 13: the calls, getting on the same page with Isaiah Rob
Speaker 13: Rob like, I just love being able to do that now.
Speaker 13: So not having that last year was different, but it's
Speaker 13: been beautiful to do it now.
Speaker 2: And then I asked him, do you look at your
Speaker 2: own tape, the thirty two steps you did have or
Speaker 2: do you go back and watch last year's Dolphins tape?
Speaker 2: How do you ensure that that familiarity within the system
Speaker 2: can be really drilled down and make it second nature
Speaker 2: for you at this point in your career.
Speaker 13: I mean the biggest thing for me, I look at
Speaker 13: a culmination of everybody you know. I see it from
Speaker 13: T's I's last year. I saw from Greg Little's eyes,
Speaker 13: Bchell's eyes. I always picked their brains and saw what
Speaker 13: they kind of see it through the same set. But
Speaker 13: now that I've had the ability to do it more,
Speaker 13: and now that I've had the ability to put my
Speaker 13: hand in the dirt on both sides and get you know,
Speaker 13: a good amount of reps. I mean, I go off
Speaker 13: of that, but don't get a twisted I never I
Speaker 13: never forget what we talked about in those situations because
Speaker 13: when certain things happen, you always want.
Speaker 3: To pull from that.
Speaker 2: Finally asked Kendall a question about playing either side both
Speaker 2: tackle positions, which he's played both of in his career
Speaker 2: a lot, and he kind of, you know, not unsolicited,
Speaker 2: but sort of unsolicited, gave me a great an hear
Speaker 2: about Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips. Here's Kendall Lamb. When
Speaker 2: I asked him, do you get a chance to kind
Speaker 2: of get different perspectives when you watch or when you
Speaker 2: see the game from both left tackle and right tackle?
Speaker 2: Not really, he says, but he gives you some good
Speaker 2: stuff here on fifteen and two.
Speaker 13: I mean, as I said before, to be honest, left
Speaker 13: and rights it's on entity. Like I go from left,
Speaker 13: you go to the right side. It's a brand new place.
Speaker 13: It's a brand new field.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 13: That's like you know, CEO the COO, Like that's just
Speaker 13: how I look at it, because it's completely different. You know,
Speaker 13: you're timing with your hands, you're timing with your steps,
Speaker 13: opening up a certain way, you know, kicking a certain way.
Speaker 13: It just it's beautiful to be put into that conflict
Speaker 13: to be honest, because to do it now, especially against
Speaker 13: Chubb and Phillips like they're very good. So it's like
Speaker 13: when I go to the right tomorrow, whenever I get
Speaker 13: to see Jalen, when I go back to the left,
Speaker 13: you see Chub. So you gotta bring your a game
Speaker 13: no matter what because they're very good. So it makes
Speaker 13: it makes you really get away the program real fast.
Speaker 2: All right, there we go. We have two more days
Speaker 2: of can't practice both tomorrow and on Thursday. We'll have
Speaker 2: you guys cover with that. We'll have our usual Friday
Speaker 2: kind of pregame podcast where you take a look at
Speaker 2: the preseason finale. Big set's gonna love that the end
Speaker 2: of the exhibition season, and then of course Saturday night
Speaker 2: the game recap podcast on Sunday, and we'll do it
Speaker 2: all back next week and have some supplementary content for
Speaker 2: you guys, some interviews we're gonna play here on the show.
Speaker 2: Plenty of content coming your way ahead of Dolphins and
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