1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. Today 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: we have Michelle Young here. She's been engaged since we 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: last talked to her. Hey Michelle, Hello, how are you 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: doing good. So we were reporting on your engagement in December, 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: but you guys got engaged a significant amount of time 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: before that, right. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got engaged in October and we're able to 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 3: just kind of enjoy it and keep this secret for 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: a little bit, which was really nice. Not something that 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: we expected, just because it was outside and there's some 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 3: people that sawce who were like, let's hope that they 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: just let us announce it, but they did, so, yeah, 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: it was. It happened in October, and we didn't announce 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: until like end of December, early January, and it's just 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: been wedding planning chaos. It's been great though. 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: Oh that's so nice. 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm assuming you just did it so that 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: you can privately enjoy the engagement before anybody else knew knew? 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Did you tell your family and your friends right away? 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we had Jack set up a little bit 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: of an engagement party right afterwards, and so we were 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: able to have like an intimate gathering with family and 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: friends and tell some people, and then we got on 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: the phone with some other like family members that were 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: out of state, and so people who were really close 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: to us knew. But we were careful to like not 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: let it get too big, just because then you know, 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: something happens, it slips up. We want to be the 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: one to be able to stay, and we just wanted 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: to enjoy it for a little bit. And you know, 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: once you kind of announced something like that, I think 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 3: all these like questions and full blown like planning and 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: all this other stuff comes into play. So we're like, 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: let's just take a breath and enjoy the holidays and everything. 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: And then well as afterwards. 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: I think that's a good decision because, yeah, you immediately 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: get asked about planning and you're like, are you guys crazy? 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: It just happened. 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: Now that you've been engaged, well twice because of the show. 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: How do two engagements compare? 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: They don't compare? 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 4: Okay, everything about those feelings. 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that we just I've talked about this before, 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: but Jack, he just calms my nervous system so much, 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: and he really puts my anxiety at Bay and so 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: I just feel like with him, I'm able to. I know, 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: social media has seen a little bit more of like 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: my goofy side and all these different sides that have 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: always been there, but I think just there's always so 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: much going on, and so it's been really nice to 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: just fully feel so comfortable in a relationship and so 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: accepted and so loved. And he just is somebody who's 55 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: always going to stick around. And I don't know, I 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: can't when you're in a healthy relationship after you've been 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: in not so healthy relationships, it's hard to expec Lane 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 3: because I always said, oh, it's just a feeling, it's 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: just a feeling. There's times where I thought I had 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: that feeling before, and I'm like, oh, this is what 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: it's supposed to feel like, Like this is what I 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: actually like a healthy relationship feels like and how it operates. 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: And so we just have, I don't know, a really 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: great system, really great communication, and he's just he's just 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: such a jump. I don't know how the hell I 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: found him in Minnesota, I really don't, but if anyone 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: could get to know him, he's like literally a lovely man. 68 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: He's so wonderful Oh. 69 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: That's so nice. 70 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: Would you think that your relationship with Nate during the 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: show do you think it was healthy during filming? Do 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: you think that it's a place that anybody can find 73 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: a relationship that they really know is going to work 74 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: out because you only know them for eight weeks and 75 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: in a secluded environment. 76 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I think anything is possible. So you see, 77 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: you do see successful relationships. Yeah, I would be lying 78 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: if I didn't say I really thought. I had watched 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: prior leads go into the show and like maybe they 80 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: didn't ask the correct questions to really get to know somebody. 81 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: So when I was stepping into the lead, I really thought, oh, 82 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to ask the questions, whether it's like during 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: fantasy suites or doing it's like dates and things like that, 84 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to ask the right questions so that I 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: can fully know somebody. And then, as you know, you 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 3: get out of it and go through what I guess 87 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: what I went through. I did have this like shattering 88 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: moment where I'm like, holy shit, you do not know 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 3: because you have to watch people go through a certain 90 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: amount of life, like people pass away, you navigate through 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: death together, you navigate through sickness, together, you navigate through 92 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: social media together. There's so many different things that you 93 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: navigate through together that you can kind of attempt to 94 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: ask questions and see during that period of time getting 95 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: to know each other. But you truly don't know unless 96 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: it's like this lengthy period of time. And so do 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: I fully believe you can hundred percent you can get 98 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: to know somebody. No, can you take a risk and 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: can that risk work out? Yes? Am I really incredibly 100 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: happy that my risk didn't work out? Hell? Yeah, I'm 101 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: definitely with the person I'm supposed to be with and 102 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: could not be happier. 103 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 4: Oh, we're so happy for you. This is awesome. 104 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: I like love, Like you could just tell from looking 105 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: at her she's just absolutely going and I love It's amazing. 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: You were really close to quote winning Matt James this 107 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: season ended up being with Rachel for quite some time. 108 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: They obviously got to know each other very well in 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: real life. Did you see I mean you probably didn't 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: see this breakup coming, as we all didn't. 111 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: Really what was your take on it all? 112 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: I think my take was honestly that I didn't have 113 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: a take with social media. It's everyone assumes that it's 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: so black and white, and you know, given certain platforms 115 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: or opportunities to speak on things, you hear one side 116 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: of the story, not the other side of the story. 117 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 3: But you can agree with certain things, you can disagree 118 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: with certain things. But for me personally, I can't sit 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: and think about, Okay, well, who's corner am I in 120 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: because through that situation, like I'm in my corner when 121 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: I kind of take a look at that relationship and 122 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: just this whole like I wanna say, like bandwig and 123 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: jumping when it comes to like these big breakup statements 124 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: or like things happening in social media, I think back 125 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: to like that whole massive controversy that I sat down 126 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: and I went through and I had to speak about race, 127 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: and I had to be the teacher and speak up 128 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 3: about you know, women in color and how we should 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: be treated within reality television and explain things to people. 130 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: And I went through this whole like racial trauma experience 131 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: when I sat there, and so I had such a 132 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: whole different experience that I kind of in my corner 133 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: and I don't think about it, like I just choose 134 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: to be at peace with it and not spend so 135 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: much energy, you know, whose side or who's right or 136 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: who's wrong, because I think both parties can make mistakes 137 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: and relationships. But also it's like I spend a lot 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: of time focusing on these two people. At the end 139 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: of that season, what's sitting next to me, you know, 140 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: Acho and had to have the whole conversation be about race, 141 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: and so it's like I really just am in nobody's 142 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: corner and am that peace with it and really don't 143 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: spend a lot of time thinking about it. So I 144 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: really just have tried to say off social media because 145 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: like every other scroll has been this whole thing, and 146 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, you know, maybe it's not something that 147 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: I want to like focus on spen energy on. 148 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: So have you spoken to either of them since that time? 149 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: No, Okay, No, I think we briefly all ran into 150 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: each other with things and everything is cordial, like you said, 151 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: like everything was put down, but it's just not something 152 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: that I necessarily like to sit and spend energy on. 153 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: Totally understand that, all right, So back to you and Jack. 154 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask the annoying question, have you guys 155 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: started wedding planning? 156 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: We have. We have started wedding planning. We have a 157 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: date picked out, we have a venue picked out? 158 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: Is it this year? Can you let us know? 159 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: Yes? It is? It is and it's coming up quick 160 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: here I'll say that. Who Yeah, yeah, we got to 161 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: it like the man means business. It's really kind of 162 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: nice to. I mean, long engagements are fine too, but 163 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: it's we got engaged. We're like, yeah, let's do life together, 164 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: let's go. And so it's been really fun with the 165 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: whole wedding planning thing. But we were like full force 166 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 3: wedding planning like we are. I don't even want to 167 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: give away which everything that we've like are ordering or 168 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: what's spot we're at, because I feel like you can 169 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: like look up how many months ahead you would do that. Yeah, 170 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: I'll give it away. But yeah, we have our wedding party. 171 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: We have all that stuff asked and figured out. It's 172 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: been really fun. 173 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: Were you able to book the venue that you wanted 174 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: to book so last minute? 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yes, Honestly, we didn't have I was never one 176 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: of those girls who like pinterests how I wanted my 177 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: entire wedding to look because I felt like I didn't 178 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: really have an idea and I didn't want to give 179 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: my heart set on something. You know, and then you 180 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: go when you never know what you're gonna get married, 181 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: and then you go and get to that time and 182 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: you can't find anything. It's like that your heartbroken. So 183 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: I always told myself I was gonna leave it open. 184 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: And so we never had like this ideal, let's do this, 185 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: let's do this, And so once we got engaged, we 186 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: kind of started to look at times of what time 187 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: of year we wanted it, how long we wanted to wait, 188 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: and that conversation really pushed us to do like, okay, 189 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: like we have to really like lock something down here. 190 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: And so we started looking around and we were able 191 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: to find a venue that we absolutely absolutely love. And 192 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: I would say it was like one of my dream 193 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: venues if I were to think about it. I just 194 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: didn't know it yet. So we're really happy. 195 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: That sounds like it's in Minnesota, YESO okay, and you 196 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: guys are both from there. 197 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: So how did you meet again? 198 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: We met a little over a year and a half ago. Yeah, 199 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 3: it's just kind of crazy to think about because it's 200 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: really not that long. It feels like we've been together 201 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: a lot longer. But yeah, we met a year and 202 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: a half ago, So like August twenty twenty four. 203 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, yeah twenty three. 204 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 205 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's been it's been good. I mean, we 206 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: just kind of spent so much time together and got 207 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: to know each other really quick and put all the 208 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: bs to the side and the small conversation to the 209 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: side for a little bit, got to the real stuff 210 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: and learned about each other real quick. 211 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: So do you meet through friends? 212 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah we did. Okay, Yeah, we met through friends, 213 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: So it was connection. 214 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: Look at that go on the Bachelorette end up meeting 215 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: through friends in Minnesota. 216 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 217 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: How long were you friends with these friends? And why 218 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: didn't they send you up earlier? 219 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: That's what I asked. So we had both been friends 220 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: with them. Jack had known them a little bit longer 221 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: than I did, a few years, and then I recently 222 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: met them like within the last like two years or so, 223 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: and we got close. But what happened was I wasn't 224 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: really on the apps in Minnesota or just in general, 225 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: like at one time I was, I'm like, this is 226 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: not for me. Everybody in Minnesota looks the same, literally 227 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: every guy in Minnesota. So do you swept through uh 228 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: dating app? They're in camouflage with their golden triever dog 229 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: holding up a fish or like, went hunting, and I'm 230 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: just like, I don't know. This is not gonna work 231 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: for me. So I was with one of my girlfriends 232 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: and her brother and I jokingly said to her brother like, 233 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: do you have any friends that are like away looking 234 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: but like honestly like a good person, you know? And 235 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: I jokingly through got out there and he came back. 236 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: He was like, actually, yeah, have I ever talked to 237 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 3: you about Jack? I'm like, no, Who's Jack? So he 238 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: showed me his social media or his Instagram? And you 239 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: only had two pictures. So I'm like, oh, yeah, green 240 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: flag two pictures only, that's great. But I actually started blushing, 241 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: and I was a little interesting that I made a 242 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: note of. But I was asking him like is he 243 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: a good person? He said, he's so sweet. I should 244 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: introduce you. And it was weird because I had brought 245 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: it up. And then Jack actually had asked this friend 246 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 3: to be introduced to me, like forty eight hours beforehand, 247 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: because he kept seeing me pop up on social media 248 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: and was like, I have this gut feeling just can 249 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: you please introduce me to her? So he kept checking in. 250 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: So after we had started dating, he was like a 251 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: month in. We were talking on the couch and I 252 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: was bringing up how like I asked to be introduced 253 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: to him, and he's like, no, no, no, no, no, it's 254 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: the other way around. And we figured out that we 255 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: had both asked to be introduced to each other. 256 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 4: Wow, that's faate, that's so cool. 257 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: He beat me by like forty eight hours, but we 258 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 3: both had this idea that we initiated it when it was. 259 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: Actually, Wow, that's so cute, that's so cool. 260 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: What does Jack think about you having been the bachelorette? 261 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: He just I don't know he accepts it. I don't 262 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: think he reached out or wasn't like I want to 263 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 3: meet her because she was the bachelorette. He very much 264 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: just had heard about like my qualities through friends and 265 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: it was like she's just cute. I want to meet her, 266 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: And I don't know, he doesn't. He really overlooks it. 267 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: And I think that's why I like it, is because 268 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: he understands and accepts like the different you like, like 269 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: I said, going on podcasts and ex'es are constantly being 270 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: brought up like that's not an easy thing for what 271 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: I mean, he's like my fiance and he has to 272 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: always hear about this stuff. We're going on social media 273 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: and you know, somebody, we just did this podcast and 274 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: this couple threw on he was on the podcast and 275 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: they overlaid like pictures of like the proposal of me 276 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: and Nate and like the one that's kind of disrespectful. 277 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: If he's like sitting on the podcast next to me, 278 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: that's really weird. But like there's just all these different 279 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: things that he has to put up with and he 280 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: accepts it because that's the baggage that I come along 281 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: with and he wants to be with me, and so 282 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: I love him for that. But like he Bachelorette or not, 283 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: he would still be there. And that's what I love 284 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: about him so much is that he understands just all 285 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: the different ways that I'm tugged, the anxiety that it 286 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: can bring, all the different nuances. But like he loves 287 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: Michelle for Michelle and that has nothing to do with 288 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: the Bachelorette. 289 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: That's very sweet. 290 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: Ah, what do you guys see in your future and. 291 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: Say five years hopefully kids? 292 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: Do you guys agree on how many you want? 293 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: We definitely want more than one. I think like two. Yeah, 294 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: we've talked about it, and it kind of really depends 295 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: on how it goes. I always thought I would have 296 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: to find now so I'm a little bit older and everything, 297 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: but I don't know. It would be great to Like 298 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: part of me is like I want to pop out 299 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: twins so I can just have them running around and 300 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: you know, get it done with. 301 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: I feel that. 302 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, at the same time, I'm like, that's also a 303 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: lot too. I've heard so some some kids I don't know, 304 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: going to sports tournaments bringing them there like that whole life. 305 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: We both absolutely love that we both had that life 306 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: growing up and so hopefully something looking like that. 307 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 308 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: When I was pregnant with the first one, it was 309 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: so miserable that I was just like, please let it 310 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: be twins when we went in for the ultrasounds, so 311 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: I don't have to do this again. 312 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: But oh my goodness, did you hear that whole new 313 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: statistic about how it's I don't know what percentage, so 314 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: don't quote me on this, you have to look it up. 315 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: But it's like majority of the men's health that decides 316 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: how he goes do. 317 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: We both see the same Instagram. 318 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: Reel immediately have He's like, I was in better shape 319 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: when you got pregnant with Dawson than when you got 320 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: pregnant with Hayden, and yet you were sicker with Dawson. 321 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: So how does that make sense? I don't know. We 322 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: gotta look into this. 323 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, I have no idea, but I'm like, don't 324 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: tell me that now, because I'm like, no drinking six 325 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: months before anything. Right, I could stay fair, eat corn dogs, 326 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: do all this other stuff, but like you have to 327 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: be perfectly clean, right, take yourself to me. 328 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: Just from my experience, I'm gonna say that I'm not 329 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: one hundred percent sold in this theory. But we do 330 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: like to blame the men when we're. 331 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 4: Sick, you know. 332 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 2: Well, Okay, before we wrap up, I just want to know, 333 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: like the general vibe of your wedding. Is it going 334 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: to be a surprise, Like are you going to tell 335 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: people like it's our wedding weekend coming up? Or is 336 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: it going to are we going to get the headlines 337 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: like for your engagement like, oh, it already happened, surprise? 338 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: Is it going to be small? Large? Have you picked 339 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: out your dress? 340 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: Like? 341 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: I want these little fun details. 342 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: The dres shopping is coming up here shortly, and so 343 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: that will be hopefully decided on. But then as far 344 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 3: as like, will we just give hints, I don't know. 345 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: I think we'll probably eventually say once it gets a 346 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: little bit closer in a safe manner. I guess you know, 347 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: we're not like location time so that people can show up, 348 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: but we'll like let you know, or people would just 349 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: figured out. I feel like so many people are like detectives, 350 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: and I have some wonderful supporters. They read between the 351 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 3: lines and can figure anything out. So I'm sure people 352 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: figure it out sooner rather than later. 353 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: So you haven't dress shopped yet. 354 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: No, but that doesn't mean you know. I'm also you're like, 355 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 3: you know, I procrastinate and do things that way too. 356 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 3: I'm very like ADHD when it comes to that. So 357 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: you can't really go off of right. Like a lot 358 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: of brides to order, they're dressed like a year ahead 359 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: of time. 360 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: I was a year. 361 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: That's because they told you it's supposed to be a 362 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: year ideally, which is nuts. 363 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: Here's the thing, if I if that was the case, 364 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: that if that was the case, like if I was 365 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: able to order it a year ahead of time, then 366 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: I honestly probably would have That's just timeline already passed, 367 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: so I can't do that. So we're here. 368 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just want to like let you know that 369 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: dress shopping is probably the most fun part of the 370 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: entire wedding planning experience, along with tasting your menu and 371 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: picking out all that food. 372 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: We just finished the tasting and then it was so 373 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: much fun. Yeah, it was so amazing. Yeah, that was 374 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: it was a lot of It was a lot of fun. 375 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: It was me and Jack and then his dad was 376 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: able to come and we were at the venue and 377 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: it was it was really cool to be able to 378 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: go through that. I've never experienced anything like that. They 379 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: just kept bringing out like massive plates of food and 380 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 3: drinks and after like the champagne and the wine and 381 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 3: the other wine and the cocktails. I'm like, it all 382 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: tastes great. 383 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 384 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: We had to do three in Newport because like the 385 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: venue that we used, they they pick from you know, 386 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: you get to pick from three caterers, and it was 387 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: like three days of Thanksgiving in a row. And I 388 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: was like, I don't know that I want to eat 389 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: like this again today. But it was really fun because 390 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: it was like a whole family Thanksgiving three days in 391 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: a row because we had like our parents races. 392 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: Did you eat on your wedding day? Did you remember 393 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: to eat? I didn't even like. 394 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 2: Try it, Okay, so I'm all, I'm like, not the 395 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: one that's gonna skip out on any type of food ever. 396 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: But there was something about the anxiety, like not anxiety, 397 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: like just the adrenaline I think of your wedding day. 398 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: I couldn't swallow it. 399 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: Like people were like, you need to eat, you need 400 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: to take a bite, and I'd like try to eat it, 401 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I literally cannot stomach this right now, 402 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: not because like I feel cleasy or nervous or anything like. 403 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: That, just my body can't take it. So Jared and I. 404 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: Actually ended up like six months later, having a really 405 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: cute date at the caterers where we ate our entire 406 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: meals like start to end. 407 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: That's such a cute idea. 408 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so good, and I was so bummed 409 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: out that I didn't get to experience it then. So 410 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: I was like, let's just go and have like the 411 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: biggest lunch of our lives. And it was really awesome 412 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: that they let us do that. 413 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: That's amazing. That's a good wedding tip. 414 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a good wedding tip. 415 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: My other wedding tip if you're solicit advice here is 416 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: just make sure that you guys hang out with each 417 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: other the entire day, and like, do not worry about 418 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: saying hi to people that you have never really met. 419 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: From his side, this is not a day to make 420 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: new friends. And don't need to say hi to like 421 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: people that you're not going to see for another year, 422 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: or even people that you're going to see like the 423 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: next month, because the day is about you guys, and 424 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: you can chat with them some other time. Quick clothes 425 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: are just fine. 426 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: I think that is like the biggest wedding tip that 427 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: so many people have said is just stay by each 428 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 3: other's side. Yeah, we've already, we've already talked about it. 429 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: I'm like, let's just like handcuff each other so you 430 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: have to be stuck. 431 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you see too many brides and grooms on that day, 432 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 2: just with a totally different group of people for over 433 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: an hour, you know, they just get kind of swept up. 434 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: Like, no, never leave each other for more than five 435 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 4: time minutes. 436 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: Okay, got it? 437 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: Okay, And that's it because the next time we probably 438 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: chat on this podcast will be after your wedding, so 439 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: please come on then and tell us all the details 440 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: hopefully well. Michelle, thank you so much for joining us, 441 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: and good luck and enjoy every single freaking second of it. 442 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 4: It's so it's just one of the best periods of life. 443 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It's nice talking to you. 444 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: See you you too. Bye. 445 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 446 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.