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Speaker 2: today from Science Hill, Danville in the house today and

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Speaker 2: we want to talk about today. Well, I mean there

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Speaker 2: are like two main things. I think it's pretty clear

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Speaker 2: football game and blue white game. If you remember last

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Speaker 2: Pretty terrible loss. I mean the fan base after the game,

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's pretty down time.

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Speaker 2: For the program. I think would be the best way

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the fan base is bordering on

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Speaker 2: The online fan base is top is toxic. I don't

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Speaker 4: This was supposed to be a three game stretch where

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Speaker 4: Kentucky football is gonna turn it around. Beat Vandy, beat Florida,

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Speaker 4: A chance to go to the playoffs, and now we're

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think you're now drew like odds are.

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Speaker 5: When you have an offense that hasn't scored twenty one points,

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Speaker 3: Do you have that. That's what a contract is.

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Speaker 4: Mark Stoops has done things here at the UK football program.

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Speaker 2: But something is just not right right now with the

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Speaker 4: I mean, what do you think I talk to a

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Speaker 4: for whatever reason, we got guys, you know, not kind

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Speaker 5: I mean, you can say Dion's name. There were a

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Speaker 2: Surprisingly they were they were better. Yes, they were better Saturday,

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Speaker 4: We got it inside the five on first down and

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Speaker 2: You want to know what they answer to that question. Yes,

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Speaker 3: But the second is creative play calling.

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Speaker 2: Go watch Kansas City in the red zone sometime and

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Speaker 2: Of course they have my homes that's different. He can

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Speaker 5: You're right, we didn't even bully him very well because

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Speaker 2: He did not weigh four due that dude, what are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you yokozuna?

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Speaker 5: No, Ryan's right, that guy is, yes, it might be

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Speaker 2: So he's plugging a hole, just sitting there, just sitting down. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we go right on. He did well. Hey, twenty

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Speaker 3: And also that I'm gonna let them make fun of me.

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Speaker 2: My lock of the week, Poor Billy's on Ramen Noodles.

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Speaker 2: All was unlocked, and it was unlocked a kind of

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Speaker 2: a sad one. We'll take a break in beer at bags.

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It is Kentucky Sports Radio. I fight five nine two

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Speaker 2: twenty two eighty seven. I didn't know we were back there. Rick, Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess you didn't hear me. Okay, that's true. How

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Speaker 4: My wife kept me hopping with the uh honey to

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, honey to do list. I understand a couple

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Speaker 2: you know what, they use that money for other things.

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Speaker 2: How do you think we pay for every other sport?

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Speaker 2: I mean the reality is we know you you should not.

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Speaker 2: I mean everybody should know this. Football pays for every sport, everything,

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Speaker 2: At most conferences, basketball loses you money. But at UK

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Speaker 2: I think that's a huge testament to UK Athletics and

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Speaker 3: UK does not.

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Speaker 2: But because of that, you end up with a situation

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, a Kentucky we're kind of blessed.

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Speaker 2: But there are SEC schools that take from their general funds. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean we don't. That's you know. Do you think

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Speaker 4: Some of it came out people upset because of this

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't make sense right now with the way

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you see that social media graphic that went

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Speaker 5: You gotta pay more, Kentucky, you gotta pay more. When

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is, for years I said this

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Speaker 2: For years, longtime UK football fans said, we don't invest

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Speaker 2: they're investing in football, and then you go, we're investing

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Speaker 5: I'm not defending him on that. Look though, he should

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Speaker 2: What it is.

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Speaker 5: This is, Yeah, I even if we had that money

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's staying here much longer on his own,

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Speaker 2: And I think part of the frustration is this is

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Speaker 4: Nobody has a real answer, like what is going on

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Speaker 3: Do you think there's a locker room issue?

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Speaker 2: I honestly haven't heard that there is. I haven't heard

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Speaker 2: And I will tell you this in football, first of all,

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Speaker 2: And if there's a locker room issue, somebody's gonna leak

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Speaker 2: it out. Andrew, I have not heard it. R not

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Speaker 5: when you have so many guys just thrown together, you

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Speaker 5: don't have a lot of continuity. But I don't know

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Speaker 5: if anything specific.

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Speaker 2: The other teams do that.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I'm just wondering, if you know,

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Speaker 5: retaining guys does matter, and I wonder if you have

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Speaker 5: so many like we.

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Speaker 2: Don't have any more than everybody else does.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I'm saying when Cash Daniel tweet

446
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Speaker 5: a week or they're not a leader. I'm just saying,

447
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Speaker 5: we have so many new guys, someone's getting probably not

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Speaker 5: stepping up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I understand Cash tweeted that, but at the

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Speaker 2: same time Cash played at a different time. Like again,

451
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Speaker 2: you can't win at Kentucky without taking transfers. So just

452
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Speaker 2: like I was saying about Tony Bittt, if the transfer

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Speaker 2: thing's not working, you gotta make it work, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I mean you don't have you don't have an ability

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Speaker 2: to go, oh, well, this transfer thing's killing. No, you

456
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Speaker 2: gotta make it work. If you don't make it work,

457
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Speaker 2: we're not gonna win in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Let me let me ask you this then, because I

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Speaker 4: heard Max say this this morning on the pre show

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Speaker 4: with Billy. He said, Kentucky Stoop built the program on

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Speaker 4: kind of good recruiting and developing their own recruits. Do

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Speaker 4: you think they've gotten away a little bit from that?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because they have to. What would this team be

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Speaker 2: without Dumas John Zy? Okay, what would this team be

465
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Speaker 2: without Max Harston? What would this team be without our quarterback?

466
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Speaker 2: Our quarterback? Like? Do Demi Sumo karmbat yea right? Like

467
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Speaker 2: we have to do that. We can't sit there and act.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now is our development not as good? I

469
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Speaker 2: think that's a completely fair question to ask. Why have

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Speaker 2: we not developed a better offensive lineman? And why have

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Speaker 2: we not? Fair question? And that but the idea that like, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's hurting the chemistry. Well maybe, but you

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Speaker 2: better get used to it because every single team in

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Speaker 2: the country is doing it. And if we don't do it,

475
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Speaker 2: we're gonna just get killed. Because the thing about the transfer.

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Speaker 3: Port it takes the mistakes you made.

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Speaker 2: In recruiting and fixes them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can correct it by getting one transfer to

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Speaker 4: come in. If you missed out on a cornerback, go

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Speaker 4: out and get a cornerback.

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Speaker 2: But I think we're seeing Drew with the offensive line

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Speaker 2: that maybe there were some either big mistakes or bad development.

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Speaker 5: Well with the line, specifically three of their biggest recruits,

484
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Speaker 5: I mean they just whiffed on. You get a Grant

485
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Speaker 5: Bingam who's not even on the team, and more County

486
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Speaker 5: good ones not both those guys aren't playing football anymore.

487
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Speaker 5: And when you got them, those were gonna be some

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Speaker 5: some centerpieces of your line moving forward. So they had

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Speaker 5: two or three years of just not recruiting the line well,

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Speaker 5: and now you're seeing how that panned out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it is weird that sometimes our biggest

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Speaker 2: flameouts in recruiting are in state. Guys are the top

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Speaker 2: if you think about I mean, I'm not gonna listen

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Speaker 2: their names, but think about our biggest star rated recruits

495
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Speaker 2: that flamed out, A lot of them are from this state. Now,

496
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Speaker 2: we've had some great ones from the state that hasn't

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Speaker 2: been an issue. We'll take a break. Take your calls,

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Speaker 2: get the phones here. We do have to know before

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Speaker 2: we do sec network production. Worst thing ever seen in

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Speaker 2: my life. I mean again, I gotta be careful about

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Speaker 2: this because you know whatever, Yeah, don't film this, Mario.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not a social media and considering

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Speaker 2: considering some of my secondary gigs. But what was happening?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the cameras couldn't keep track of the play.

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Speaker 2: At one point there was a sequence I don't know

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Speaker 2: if everyone was drunk. It looked to me like we

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Speaker 2: were two yards shore of the first down and the

517
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Speaker 2: announcer goes Vandergriff easily gets the first down, and then

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Speaker 2: I thought it was fourth and two, and it was

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Speaker 2: somehow first and ten, but the yard marker seemed to

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Speaker 2: suggest it was first and four and Ryan, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what happened. I mean, they had every down on

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Speaker 2: the screen. It was just it was a disaster and

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Speaker 2: it looked like the camera people were all drunk.

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Speaker 4: It looks like stuff I see when I go to

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Speaker 4: a freshman football game when you got dads running the

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Speaker 4: camera and dads you and the yard markers, but everything

527
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Speaker 4: was off. If there was a play downfield, you were

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Speaker 4: not gonna see it because they couldn't keep up with

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Speaker 4: the ball.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it looked like someone was doing it that's

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Speaker 2: never watched football. Like they were like somebody told them

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Speaker 2: just stay with the ball, and they would just stay

533
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Speaker 2: and then the received the ball'd be up in the

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Speaker 2: air and they'd be like, Okay, where'd it go?

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Speaker 3: Did they throw it backwards? Did they throw it in

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Speaker 3: the stands.

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Speaker 5: It was bizarre, no downfield vision from our camera. Man,

538
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Speaker 5: if the ball was thrown farther the tender yard, get

539
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Speaker 5: it at home, you'll just have to find out whenever

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Speaker 5: he gets down there. Because he could not follow anything

541
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Speaker 5: down past.

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Speaker 2: And if it was a punt like it might still

543
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Speaker 2: be up in the air as far as we know,

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Speaker 2: like they just it was awful.

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Speaker 4: You were right too about the first down, yard mark

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Speaker 4: or something was all that happened.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know what happened on those plays. It

548
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Speaker 2: was first and ten, then it was like third and seven.

549
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Speaker 2: Brock runs it for what looked to me to be

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Speaker 2: five yards, so I thought it was fourth and two,

551
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Speaker 2: and I said to myself, well, this is the game

552
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Speaker 2: right here. And then they just gave him a first down,

553
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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, on the screen it

554
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Speaker 2: was second down and third down and nothing had happened

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Speaker 2: the yardage thing. I don't know who messed up, because

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Speaker 2: the yardage thing still had him needing two yards and

557
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Speaker 2: they said it was first down. Then he runs for

558
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Speaker 2: five yards and they go, well, he gets the first down,

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Speaker 2: but I thought we already had the first down. I

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Speaker 2: still don't know what happened. Don't either. Going on, I

561
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Speaker 2: don't either.

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Speaker 5: It was in the SEC network's fault, but I also

563
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Speaker 5: didn't like that Florida was allowed to just call their

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Speaker 5: own touchdown. Is that a new I mean shot the

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Speaker 5: fireworks so the reff was like, well, fireworks are going off,

566
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Speaker 5: lights are off. I guess I guess it's a touch.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting that on the SEC network too, because I

568
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Speaker 2: did see a First of all, they should have blown

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Speaker 2: it dead, so he should have not been in because

570
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Speaker 2: it was blown.

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Speaker 5: Dead, especially after the one earlier in the game.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't blow it dead. So I did see

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Speaker 2: an angle where a newspaper reporter has it to where

574
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Speaker 2: the ball is out and he's not on the ground yet,

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Speaker 2: which I.

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Speaker 3: Guess is what that referee saw.

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Speaker 2: But how did the SEC network not have any camera

578
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Speaker 2: angle that showed that they were shooting it through an

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Speaker 2: iPhone two on the opposite side.

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Speaker 4: We didn't see one angle that showed the ball across

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Speaker 4: the bad It wasn't one angle that showed the runner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm serious. And there wasn't one angle where you

583
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Speaker 2: could even see who had the ball.

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Speaker 4: Even the announcers I think were really confused. They've said

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Speaker 4: that every everything they were seeing. I think the announcers

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Speaker 4: thought it was the second core or the way.

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Speaker 2: He was like.

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Speaker 5: They're probably mad at the cameraman too.

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Speaker 2: Oh they have to be. I'm not blaming I didn't

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Speaker 2: know who those two guys were. I'm not blaming them,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like it was a disaster.

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Speaker 4: I could ask you one more thing about the game.

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Speaker 4: We should have known something was up when the first

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Speaker 4: time Ja mary On Willcox carries the ball.

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Speaker 2: Your shoe came off?

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Speaker 3: How did his shoe come on? Unbelievable, Like I'd stepped away.

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Speaker 2: And when somebody I heard them talking about the shoe,

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Speaker 2: I was like, did he really lose his shoe after

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Speaker 2: a first carry?

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Speaker 5: First?

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Speaker 2: Apparently they taped them on after that? Well, is he

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Speaker 2: not allowed to tie them?

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Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you take if if I went through what

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Speaker 5: Wilcox went through last week where I am just made

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Speaker 5: fun of all week long, after my coach calls me

606
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Speaker 5: out publicly, I go to the trainer before the game

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Speaker 5: and say, three rolls of tape on each foot, tape

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Speaker 5: this thing to my leg where I cannot.

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Speaker 2: Get it all, and he loses his shoe. We should

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Speaker 2: have known then, as Mike Myers says, who loses a shoe? Nobody?

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Speaker 2: It was up first? Rick Brandon is up first. Brandon

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Speaker 2: go ahead?

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, Yeah, in a perfect world, you know, maybe

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Speaker 6: Soups retires and then we can go after John summer Off.

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Speaker 6: But I don't even think that would be the case

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Speaker 6: because I believe that the first person that Barnheart would

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Speaker 6: offer the job too is probably Brad White. So I say,

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Speaker 6: if we finished, if we.

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Speaker 2: Had had a good year, then I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think Stoops would have retired. I think Drew and

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Speaker 2: I are in agreement with on this. If this year

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Speaker 2: had gone well, I think Stoops would retire and Brad

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Speaker 2: White would get the job. I think everybody again online

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Speaker 2: that just assumes it's going to be John Summraw, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't assume that. I would assume that there's a very

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Speaker 2: good chance it'll be Brad White. But now if we

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Speaker 2: go four and eight, Brandon, I'm not sure he can

628
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Speaker 2: hire Brad White on the on the staff where we

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Speaker 2: go four.

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Speaker 6: And a, well, if we've learned anything that Barnhart doesn't

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Speaker 6: give a hoop what the fans think.

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Speaker 2: So I don't have that. Why do you say that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not trying. I've been very critical of

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Speaker 2: Barnhart over here, But when you say it doesn't give

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Speaker 2: a hoot, I mean, well, why do you say that?

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Speaker 6: Well, as as much as we are a fan of

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Speaker 6: the Mark Pope higher right now. We weren't big fans

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Speaker 6: of it when it happens. But I mean, who.

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Speaker 2: Thinks that you have? Who else would you have had

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Speaker 2: Mitch Barnhart higher? I told you he wasn't allowed to

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Speaker 2: hire a number of guys tried to hire Danny Hurley

642
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Speaker 2: and Scott Drew. Who else would you have had him hire?

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say this now, but at the time I

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Speaker 6: would have brother had the Florida coach. But I'm a

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Speaker 6: big fan of Mark Pope. I hope that he does great.

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Speaker 6: I just don't think that Miss Barnhart's to be in

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Speaker 6: charge of making any more higher. I think it's time.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate, appreciate the call, and I you know, I

649
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Speaker 2: think he probably will retire soon. I'm not sure. Mike White,

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Speaker 2: who didn't win at Georgia and hasn't really yet won

651
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Speaker 2: at Florida Todd Golden, I'm sorry, what am I talking about?

652
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Speaker 2: It's the other way around Florida and Georgia. Todd Golden,

653
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Speaker 2: but how did he? How did Florida do last year?

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Speaker 2: They did well?

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Speaker 5: I made a top ten. I actually had Todd goldenhead

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Speaker 5: of Mark Pope. So I can't argue with the caller.

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Speaker 5: You all your Todd Golden consistent.

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Speaker 4: Is there another person on the current staff that would

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Speaker 4: be considered a year or you don't?

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Speaker 2: You know? Yes, I mean I think he'd be considered.

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Speaker 2: This is this is not within a lot of it

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Speaker 2: depends on how this year finishes. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be hard for them just to point a dude from

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Speaker 2: a staff that went four and eight.

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Speaker 5: Bear, especially when elite defense. I mean, they still have

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Speaker 5: games play. They've had some great games, but if they

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Speaker 5: keep showing some holes or give up forty eight points again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I will say, whoever the coach is, they

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Speaker 2: can hire Drew as the coach. UK will try to

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Speaker 2: keep certainly Vince Merrow and almost certainly Brad Watt no

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Speaker 2: matter what happens. But I don't know how that affects.

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Speaker 2: I have long assumed that then that the leader in

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Speaker 2: the clubhouse for Mitch Warren Barnart would be Brad White.

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Speaker 2: But I think if they finished four and eight, that's

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Speaker 2: going to enter into the discussion. I just did, and

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Speaker 2: I think John Summraw is someone that he really likes,

677
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Speaker 2: but everybody just assumes that's the next step. I think

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Speaker 2: that's your projecting your wishes more than how that ad

679
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Speaker 2: over there thinks, which ultimately is who makes that decision? Right,

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Speaker 2: Who's next Jay? And Lyndon is next Jay? And Lindon

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Speaker 2: go ahead?

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Speaker 7: Man, All these years ago, you and I are the

683
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Speaker 7: one thing we agreed on was Stoup's was the right

684
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Speaker 7: guy for the hire. And if you look back at

685
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Speaker 7: his legacy eight Bowl games in a row, two ten

686
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Speaker 7: to three seasons, absolutely owning U of L. In the

687
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Speaker 7: midst of some tough seasons when Drew Barker and Terry

688
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Speaker 7: Wilson went down, the coaching was good enough to get

689
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Speaker 7: as good results.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 7: I think the last thing, even when we've had a

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Speaker 7: bad season like twenty twenty where we were five and six,

693
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Speaker 7: the blowout win at Tennessee stands out of the hell.

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Speaker 7: I still go watch some of that game on YouTube.

695
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Speaker 7: But the troubling and alarming thing the last three years,

696
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Speaker 7: and I don't even think you can argue this, is

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Speaker 7: we've lost seven to eight games, Yeah, against teams with

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Speaker 7: less talent than we have.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great point. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: great point. I mean, if you were making the case,

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate the call Jay, good to hear from

702
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Speaker 2: you for why Stoops was so good In the early years,

703
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Speaker 2: we were competitive against teams that oftentimes we didn't have

704
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Speaker 2: business being competitive against, but we were whether we won

705
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Speaker 2: or not. We rarely got blown out. We'd usually get

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Speaker 2: blown out once a year, but otherwise the games were

707
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Speaker 2: we were in them, they were exciting. And then we

708
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Speaker 2: won some games that we shouldn't or team we beat

709
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Speaker 2: teams we were better than. That's not really what's happened

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Speaker 2: last few years. We've been blown out a bunch. We've

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of games where we've gotten blown out

712
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Speaker 2: on the field and we've been beaten. I think Jay

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Speaker 2: says by seven. I'll take his word with it, but

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Speaker 2: a number of teams drew that we have more talent then.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. The identity is just so different from when Stoops

716
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Speaker 5: was building this. You know, you're normally underdog, and they're

717
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Speaker 5: saying why not, We're gonna punch in the mouth. You're

718
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Speaker 5: gonna know you played Kentucky whether we win or not.

719
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Speaker 5: You know a lot of get your lunch pal and

720
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Speaker 5: go to work attitude. Now we're seeing taunting down fourteen guys,

721
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Speaker 5: popping guys in the back, of the head. It's just

722
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Speaker 5: not the identity. I remember when this was all coming

723
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Speaker 5: together years ago.

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Speaker 4: You were, to back up Jay's point, you were a

725
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Speaker 4: better program than South Carolina. You were a better program

726
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Speaker 4: than Bandy, and you were a better program than Florida.

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Speaker 2: And you're a better program than Missouri back then.

728
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Speaker 4: And this year they beat not only beat you all

729
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Speaker 4: three games, they whooped you in all three other game.

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Speaker 2: They weren't even close in those three games. I would

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Speaker 2: also say one more thing about the whole the portal

732
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Speaker 2: and all that the portal is helping programs that have

733
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Speaker 2: no business being where the game days at Indiana next week. Right,

734
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Speaker 2: the portal is helping, like the portal should be great

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Speaker 2: for us, Like it is helping teams like us all

736
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Speaker 2: over the country. And we need to be one of

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Speaker 2: those teams, right we just we do. And to go

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Speaker 2: back for a second about Mitch hires, I don't think

739
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Speaker 2: most people could have predicted any of Mitch's hires, like

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Speaker 2: the idea that everybody knows. I mean maybe Joker, but

741
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: like Billy Gillespie kind of came from nowhere. Cal was

742
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Speaker 2: not who people thought he was gonna hire, right, Mark

743
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Speaker 2: Stoops kind of came from nowhere. Most people didn't even

744
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Speaker 2: know who that was when it was hired.

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Speaker 4: So you can even throw Rich Brooks in that mix.

746
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Speaker 4: When Mitch right, I mean we almost hired Bill Parcells,

747
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Speaker 4: who had that.

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Speaker 2: On their radar, right, Mark Pope. I don't think a

749
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Speaker 2: lot of people thought that was gonna be where it was,

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Speaker 2: So you he's not easy to predict, in part because

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Speaker 2: he doesn't leak, and Joe, he does not leak, I

752
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Speaker 2: mean he is he The public only finds out for

753
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Speaker 2: Mitch what Mitch wants them to find out. That's not

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Speaker 2: true about everybody else in UK sports, but that is

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Speaker 2: true about the about him.

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Speaker 5: And the one your named is predictable was announced ahead

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Speaker 5: of time, Joe, I mean that was there was never

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Speaker 5: really a search for that one. That one was kind

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Speaker 5: of already made.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. A five nine twenty two eighty

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Speaker 2: sevens KS Run I'm back Kentucky Sports Radio A five

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Speaker 2: nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven text Machine

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Speaker 2: seven seven two seven seven four five two five four

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Speaker 2: Yanke real quick, Yankees Dodgers? Are you excited about that?

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Speaker 2: For the World Series? I am.

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Speaker 4: I watched a lot of baseball this past week. I

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Speaker 4: love playoff baseball anyway, and you got Sohoya Tani and

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Speaker 4: Aaron Judges show hey, show Hey, the two best players

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Speaker 4: in the game going at it. So that's why I'm

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Speaker 4: excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, show hey Otani, Aaron Judge, Je Soto former Red

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Speaker 2: Luke Weaver is the Yankees' best pitcher. Had that happen,

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Speaker 2: he's just dunk when he was with the since with Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: But uh, Lison's own Walker Buler.

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Speaker 4: Back, Yeah, t right, Walker Bieler's back Walker Buler should

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Speaker 4: be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: They Dodgers used a bullpen game last night through their

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Speaker 4: bullpen and still looked impressive.

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Speaker 3: So but two best teams, So that'll be uh that

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Speaker 3: that'll be.

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Speaker 2: That'll be good. Shannon would normally have strong thought.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've watched one inning of this entire playoff. I'm

784
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Speaker 5: to be honest, I didn't know the series was over.

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Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like you're really fired out that you

786
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Speaker 3: don't even know.

787
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Speaker 2: Didn't even know.

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Speaker 5: I hate both those teams.

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Speaker 2: We go whoever? Let me give a shout out. Brian

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Speaker 2: Kirkland Lundy Yes from Metcalfe County, Kentucky set the state

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Speaker 2: record for most rushing touchdowns in a game. He had ten.

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Speaker 2: Ten rushing touchdowns in a game he ran for four

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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety yards. That's pretty good. That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: When I saw that stat last the other little Friday night,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my goodness, that is the just never happens.

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Speaker 4: But you know who holds the state single season scoring

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Speaker 4: record for a game, Don Gullet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what that? Thank you for that? But I

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Speaker 2: mean you said that like you were gonna be telling

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Speaker 2: me Barack Obama Like like what.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Don Gullett also had ten I mean touchdown,

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Speaker 4: but that he had Like why did you say it

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Speaker 4: was more.

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Speaker 2: So the president? Now? Why did you be like do

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Speaker 2: you know who it is? And then say a name

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Speaker 2: that no one knows? Well, I thought most people know

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Speaker 2: him since the former Cincinnati Red Picture Pictures coach, well

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Speaker 2: I did won a World Series with the Reds. That

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Speaker 2: reminds me of that scene in Caddy Shack where he goes,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's telling him that long story and he goes,

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Speaker 2: do you and Chevy Chase's character goes, then you do

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Speaker 2: you know who that man was? And he was like who?

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Speaker 2: And he was like, Bob Smith, good guy, and that's

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Speaker 2: kind of what you were doing right there. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: congrats to Brian Kirkland Lundy from Metcalf County. Who's next

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Speaker 2: Kentucky gas Man is now Kentucky gas Man. How are you.

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Speaker 8: Then, great man? How are you today?

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Speaker 2: Good? Good? All right?

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Speaker 8: So I've got two things. My first one is the

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Speaker 8: fans march stuits, and I don't I don't claim to

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Speaker 8: know a lot about how the pay and everything works. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but most people, Mitch Barnhart, you know, I understand he

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Speaker 8: cannot say the future. But it's been said a long

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Speaker 8: time ago that Mark Stukes just probably want to retire early.

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Speaker 8: So why did we not offer him a two years?

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Speaker 2: Because he would have said no? I mean, like, why

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Speaker 2: why don't we offer him to coach for fifty thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars because he'll say no? I mean the reason he

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Speaker 2: got that contract as So, what.

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Speaker 8: I'm saying is other teams were interested.

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Speaker 2: But other teams were interested in it, you they right,

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Speaker 2: So like it's all a leverage thing. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure if you asked Mitch Barnhardt, would you want to

834
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Speaker 2: sign him for all those years? I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: his agent says, if you want him to stay here,

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Speaker 2: this is what he needs. And then that's where Mitch

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Speaker 2: Barnhart is left. Right. I get that. Okay.

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Speaker 8: The other thing is as a college sports as a whole.

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Speaker 8: And I'm not against players being paid at all. I

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Speaker 8: understand that. I get it. They should get a piece

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Speaker 8: of what the college will get. I get it. But

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Speaker 8: I just feel like we're at the point that these

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Speaker 8: players are really feeling entitled. I had I had two

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Speaker 8: small kids in.

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Speaker 2: But you say that, sir here. I understand the argument.

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Speaker 2: I get the argument about players' money entitled, But why

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Speaker 2: are these other schools succeeding and we're not Because I

848
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Speaker 2: can tell you it's almost like saying, was the world

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Speaker 2: better before the Internet? Well? Maybe, but the Internet's not going.

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Speaker 3: Away, so you just have to you just have to

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Speaker 3: deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Is college sports well better or worse after the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court decision?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know what it exists.

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Speaker 2: So like it's like complaining about not about the Internet,

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Speaker 2: Like you have to figure out how to regulate it,

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Speaker 2: not just act like it's going away.

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Speaker 8: So what I'm talking about is a level playing field,

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Speaker 8: And I know you can't.

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Speaker 2: Have a level playing field in America. In America, we

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Speaker 2: have a free market, and level playing fields are socialism.

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Speaker 2: Now the pro sports pro sports are socialists because of

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Speaker 2: collective bargaining, but we don't consider athletes employees, so we

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Speaker 2: don't allow them to collectively bargain. So if you believe,

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Speaker 2: but you can't have a cap unless you collectively bargain.

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Speaker 2: In America. You have to remember the principles that govern capitalism,

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Speaker 2: which have some strengths and which have some weaknesses. They

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Speaker 2: are what govern sports unless the players agree to a

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Speaker 2: different system, and for that they have to be able

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Speaker 2: to collectively bargain fair enough. That means you have to

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Speaker 2: treat the athletes as employees, which the NCAA doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to do. So the NCAA wants to be able to

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Speaker 2: not follow the rules of capitalism and not collectively bargain,

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Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court said you can't do that, nine

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Speaker 2: to zero. So now that's where we are.

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Speaker 3: Where we are, all right, Thank you, good day, appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I just like it is what it is. The NCAA

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Speaker 2: for seventy five two one hundred years just violated the

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Speaker 2: laws of economics in America, and everybody turned their head

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Speaker 2: and said, well, that's all right because you're getting an education. Well,

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court said that ain't gonna happen anymore. And

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Speaker 2: the NCAA Ryan wasn't ready. They weren't ready, and now

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Speaker 2: they have to find a way to get ready, and

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Speaker 2: I think they will, but we're in this period of

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Speaker 2: chaos right now where it's the NCAA's fault, it's these

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Speaker 2: college president's faults. They got greedy, and the Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: said you can't do that anymore, and that's where we

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Speaker 2: are to we are today. So we're gonna talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the Blue White Game and more of

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Speaker 2: this football. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.