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Speaker 1: Keeps and Stacy Ross. We're getting you guys ready. The

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Speaker 1: Seahawks returning from a bye week and they're traveling to

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Speaker 1: Lambo to take on the Green Bay Packers. Packer's coming

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Speaker 1: off a loss, but just one of two this season,

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Speaker 1: the first being Week one, the last one being without

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So this is a tough challenge for the Hawks, Dave,

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Speaker 1: A real tough one, Yes it is. And you know

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Speaker 1: it's funny the rivalry. Um, we're gonna get into that

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Speaker 1: on Wyman Bob later, but it's one of the non

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Speaker 1: division great rivalries. You know, you had Carolina for a while.

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Speaker 1: It seems like Pittsburgh even though they're AFC and you

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Speaker 1: only play them every four but you know they everyone's

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Speaker 1: still mad about Super Bowl forty. I'm not over it.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Yeah, people still remember Ben Roethlisberger and

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Speaker 1: call him a cheater because they is a cheater. The

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Speaker 1: officials said he scored. It's not like he said he

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Speaker 1: hate me. Yeah, we love to hate Ben Roethlisberger. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you think about these these rivalries. It's about

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. You know, it's Aaron Rodgers versus Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: For a while there it was Russell Wilson versus Cam

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Speaker 1: this is this is very much a home dominated series

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Speaker 1: because I know that the Packers haven't won out here

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Speaker 1: last time that the Seahawks won in Green Bay. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: these two teams, and can you imagine if you're green

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Speaker 1: Bay having come here and there was the Golden Tape

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Speaker 1: catch that wasn't and then in two thousand, after the

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Speaker 1: fourteen season, so technically twenty fifteen the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there were so many ways that they could

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Speaker 1: have won that. So if you're a Packer fan, you

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Speaker 1: probably hate Russell Wilson and this team as much as

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Speaker 1: we all hate, you know, those teams and Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: so great, right, I mean, you just love those storylines

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Speaker 1: this is a tremendous opportunity. And quite frankly, I mean this,

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Speaker 1: this game means more to Seattle than it does necessarily

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Speaker 1: funny saying that, because Davis, you know, every game matters,

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Speaker 1: it comes to Seattle Seahawks, the opportunity to potentially get

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Speaker 1: your entire team healthy from across the board, offensive, lead, defensively,

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Speaker 1: special teams wise after the buy and come out with

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Speaker 1: a win would be huge in terms of setting up

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Speaker 1: the outlook for what the second half of this season

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Speaker 1: that's what this game could mean for the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about the Packers is that they aren't necessarily

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have really picked things up this year, and

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Speaker 1: the second half of the year. You guys have been

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00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 1: powering through. I know it hasn't been the year you've wanted,

427
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: but you've also been dealing with some guys missing and

428
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: some guys injured. So what are your own personal expectations

429
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: for the offense. Starting with Green, Bay. But let's talk

430
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 1: second half too. Well. I think you got to play

431
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: a clean game all the way through with everybody, everybody

432
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: every position. I think we just play a clean glame,

433
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: a clean game, and everybody executes. I think we'll come

434
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: up like we should. Yeah, hey, Freddy, tell us about

435
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: that room now, you know. And I'm not sure how

436
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: much you look at the news and stuff like that,

437
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior out there, but it seems like you

438
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 1: guys have a really good chemistry there. It seems like

439
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: everybody cares about each other and supports one another. To

440
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: tell us about the culture in that receiver room. Um, yeah,

441
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: I think it. Uh, it all starts with respect. Everybody

442
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: respects each other. Everybody knows what what everybody brings to

443
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: the table. So um, I think we just push guys

444
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: to to a limit to whether whoever's in the game.

445
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: There's no drop off tooever's in the game. So I

446
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 1: think we just hold everybody to the same standard and

447
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: we just have fun, you know, Freddie. One of the

448
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: things that has been really fun to watch this season

449
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: is just, uh, the ability to use you in a

450
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: variety of different ways, whether that is in the fly

451
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: sweep game, or or seeing more contribution in the passing game.

452
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: Um and and you know, having a focus to get

453
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: you the football. What has that role been like for

454
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: you as far as the season is evolved, especially with

455
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, d being out and um, you getting more opportunities.

456
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll just come to work. I show show

457
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: that I could be trusted. Um, I run block past block,

458
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: I cast the ball, kind of do it all. So

459
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Speaker 1: it's a it's kind of fun to have a roll

460
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: luck that an offense. Like, hey, Freddie, we haven't seen

461
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: him yet, but how's Russell Wilson looking at practice? Great?

462
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: Like not never happened, So you can't tell anything. There's

463
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: no no, that was a that was a good answer

464
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: off the fastball or anything like that. Nope, nothing there

465
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: we go. Okay, we're going top secret. He doesn't want

466
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: to reveal anything. I get it. I get it, Freddie.

467
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: You know one of the other things is, you know,

468
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: people on the outside look at Russell Wilson his pregame routine.

469
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people also don't know that,

470
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Speaker 1: Like he's been doing that at practice when he was

471
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Speaker 1: out as well off to the side. You know he

472
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: was doing that while you guys were practicing everything as well. Um,

473
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: what did your guys, what was your guys conversation about

474
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: that amongst yourselves. When you're seeing Russell you know, off

475
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: to the side doing his thing or going through the

476
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: pre free game routine, a lot of people you know, uh,

477
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: giving him flak or talking about his preparation. What does

478
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: it say to you guys though? So you can just

479
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Speaker 1: tell how much he wants it, how much he's locked

480
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: in and he's focused, you know, to be out with

481
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: injury and he's still over there like managing. Like you

482
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: have a whole offense around you and you driving a

483
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: ball up and down by yourself. It shows your your

484
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: your character as a as a as a as a human,

485
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: as a player, as a man, and it shows guys

486
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: that that you're you're brought in. Hey, uh, Freddie, I'm curious.

487
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: I asked about kind of you know, the plan for

488
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Speaker 1: the whole offense and the playbook and all of that stuff.

489
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Speaker 1: But what are your own personal goals for this season? Um?

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Speaker 1: Just to keep contributing any type of way wheevery special

491
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Speaker 1: team's offense. Just keep contributing, uh, and be and being

492
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Speaker 1: a factor. Hey, Freddie, for you you're a guy from Florida,

493
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: so he pretty much looks like grew up in Florida.

494
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Speaker 1: And I know the weather's supposed to be you know, okay, um,

495
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: you know a little bit cold. But is there anything

496
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: that uh, what's your least favorite as far as uh

497
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: whether for a receiver, it's got to be what rain end?

498
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: What about snow? It depends on the rain. Florida rain

499
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: is different than than Seattle the rain. So yeah, I

500
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: would say Florida's rain is probably the most difficult to play.

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00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Freddie. I was there at Miami for

502
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: six months for my final year, and I couldn't believe

503
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: it. It It rains a lot here, But I was walking

504
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: to camp through campus all of a sudden it starts

505
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: to rain. I thought to myself, no big deal, And

506
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: immediately I had to go underneath some shelter because I

507
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: was drenched, like I just got in the wool. I

508
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. Yeah, it rains pretty good down there.

509
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it really does, now, you know, Freddie. Freddie. One

510
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Speaker 1: of the things that you know, I've I've really been

511
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: looking at has been the the idea of the offense,

512
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: the identity. What has this offense really tried to establish

513
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: themselves to be what do you guys feel like you

514
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: guys should be offensively? So I think we're a balanced team.

515
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: We can run it, we can pass it. So I

516
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: think we just I'm not hitting an all sudden because

517
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: like I said, and we just execute the plays that

518
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: are caught. I think would be a well offense and

519
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 1: the top offense. And can I get back to that

520
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: last question. We were talking about what's like the most

521
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: physically uncomfortable you've ever been in a game weatherwise where

522
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: it was either way too hot, way too cold, stormy, windy.

523
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what was happening where you thought, Man,

524
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm not confident I'm making it through this one anytime,

525
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: anytime where it sticks with you, you know, when you

526
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: have moments that stick with you and you can remember

527
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: how you felt that kind of know it. In Florida,

528
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: it gets pretty hot. So uh, there's been a couple

529
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Speaker 1: of times in a couple of games that it's been

530
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: scorching hot and you don't know how you're gonna get

531
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Speaker 1: through it. So oh god, So so Freddy, is is

532
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Speaker 1: it kind of cool going into is Green Bay one

533
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: of those trips that you kind of check off your

534
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: list that you know, it's it's got a lot of history. Yeah, yeah,

535
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: you're excited for this trip, then that's right. Yeah, absolutely, Freddie.

536
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: I was talking to Owl about this, and you know,

537
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: interior linemen are a little bit different. Uh, you know,

538
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: there might not be as much trash talking. But how

539
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: much trash talking has there been in your experience out

540
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: on the edge between you and and and the corners?

541
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: And has there been anybody that's actually gotten you and

542
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: you've been like, you know what, that's actually pretty good. No,

543
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: I'm I don't. I don't. I don't feed into that. Um,

544
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm never to play a game. I don't. I don't

545
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: feed into the trash talk. I mean, it's cool and

546
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: it's fun, but it's a penalty now, so I don't

547
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: really feed into it no more and they find you

548
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: for so try to keep my money in my pockets.

549
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: Seahawks wide receiver Freddy Swain. Freddie, have a good game

550
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: this weekend. Good luck and it's been a pleasure talking

551
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: to you. Thank you appreciate. Yeah, all right, Freddie, you

552
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: are listening to the huddle. I want to we have

553
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: one minute left, Dave. I got to hear this flash

554
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: talking star really quick. Joe Kane. Uh. We were down.

555
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: It was a TV time out down in La playing

556
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders, and it was back in the nineties where

557
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: those Malcolm X shirts were really in with the Big X.

558
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: And so Joe told one of their offensive linemen. He goes, yeah,

559
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: you can't wear a Malcolm X T shirt because a

560
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: helicopter might land on your ass. Everybody, everybody, both sides

561
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: of the of the ball, we're cracking up. Oh god,

562
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: that's a good one. That was a good one. I

563
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: liked that one. I don't know if it's better than

564
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: someone telling Al Woods you have beautiful eyes, because I

565
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: love just awkwardness. That's very awkward. That one's very That

566
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: one's very kind of like, I like an idea of

567
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: a trash talk where the the person who was being

568
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: trash talk to the recipient has no idea what to say. Well,

569
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: and the thing is is that's like the last thing

570
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: you would expect. All right, beautiful, that'll give you, that'll

571
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: give you a double take, that's for sure, all right.

572
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson speaking with reporters next, and we got Ray

573
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Roberts and Steve Rabel coming up an hour two. This

574
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Speaker 1: is the huddle. Welcome back to the huddle. Dave Wyman,

575
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Stacy Ross, Jake Keeps. See Roger on the board. Let's

576
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: go to the Russell Wilson press conference now being out there,

577
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: that's a recruiting pitch looked like to get him to

578
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: come to see Well, I think, first of all, Odell obviously,

579
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: he's an unbelievable talent, you know, in the world class. Um,

580
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I think that you know, for

581
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: for our organization, you know, always trying to find ways

582
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: to compete and try and find ways to win that

583
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But we got some great guys already too,

584
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: and we got some the best best guys in the

585
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: world already. So just to have the possibility of adding

586
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: another amazing talent would be amazing. Um. If not, we're

587
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: still ready. We're still ready to go hopeful, hopefully all

588
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: the way. And uh, that's kind of our focus. But

589
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: he's he's tremendous talent. Yeah. I've gotten to know Odell

590
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: over the years. I mean, he's he's always worked extremely

591
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: hard with thrown the summertimes, you know, and all that

592
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff in California and stuff, and uh, you know,

593
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: have a have a good rapport one another and stuff

594
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: like that. So I got a lot of respect for

595
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: how he plays the game and all that. Talked to

596
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: him since he became creative. Yeah, we've talked, you know,

597
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: we talked throughout the years, really be honest with you,

598
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: just just about life and whatever, you know, And it's

599
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: been good friends and stuff like that. And like I said,

600
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: we've thrown a bunch together, you know, so I know

601
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: him pretty well. Last a few weeks been like I mean,

602
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: you never missed a game, hardly any practice anything for

603
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: ten yew seasons to be out the songs? How was

604
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: that for you? You know? Um, it was definitely a challenge.

605
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: You know. I think adversity um brings the best out

606
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: of you, you know, and I think that, uh, you know,

607
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: for me, definitely went through some adverse times with the

608
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: hand and everything else, and uh you know, um, you know,

609
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: difficult moment. But at the same time, um, you know,

610
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: I also know that, you know, I was leaning on

611
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: the scripture consider pure joy, James one too, to consider

612
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: pure joining through trials and your relations because the test

613
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: me fate that both perseverance and uh, you know a

614
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: few things that my parents and I taught me, you know,

615
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: knowing how to persevere, knowing how to get through adversity.

616
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: And I think that just being I think, first of all,

617
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: the first thing is, you know, non negativity, just just

618
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: trying to be completely neutral in the midst of it all,

619
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: knowing that things happen, you know. I'm also knowing that

620
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: I've been blessed to be able to play all the

621
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 1: games I've been able to play, and uh, you know,

622
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: and all the things I've been able to do so

623
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: far in this league. And I think that, uh, you know,

624
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's a new beginning. I feel

625
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: like it's a new start, and I feel like it's

626
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: it's time to get going again all over again. So

627
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: I think that all the hard work and all the

628
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: attention to detail has been amazing. I think also too, um,

629
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I think to be surrounded around some of the best

630
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: people in the world, you know, daily obviously this organization

631
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: and people around here. Um. And also to just kind

632
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: of my performance team, I mean, just to have Amy

633
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: my PT uh. With the amount of time I mean

634
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: we literally probably twenty hours a day, nineteen hours a day,

635
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're working on on this hands just trying

636
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Speaker 1: to to break records with this thing, because it was

637
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: a pretty severe injury, you know, in the sense of

638
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: how many things happened, you know. And so I think

639
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: that for me, my whole, my whole mindset was to

640
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: cut the time and half, you know, and uh that's

641
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of what my mindset has been

642
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: since the moment happened. And uh, you know, I think

643
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: that you know, to have amazing people like Amy to

644
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: be there day, every every pretty much every second of

645
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: the day. To also have um, you know, some amazing

646
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: people too. Um you know, uh late in mos awesome

647
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: OT hand Specialists has been awesome. Um, you know, to

648
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: be obviously doctor Shin's best in the world at hands

649
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: and to be able to work with him, um, you know.

650
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: And I think for me, I never lost confidence and

651
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: what were I was going to go and I was

652
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna do and how I was gonna get good? It's done,

653
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, And so I think that, um, you know,

654
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: throughout the whole process, I knew, you know, I was

655
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: like I was I was hoping that I kind of

656
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: knew in my head, you know, this is where I

657
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: this is my goal, this is where where I want

658
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: to be. This and that, um, just keeping my head

659
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: in it, you know, every day at practice. You know,

660
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean every day at practice. I got every single

661
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: rep and some more, you know, just by staying on

662
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: the side and just trying to mentally go through everything.

663
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: I think obviously you guys saw the games We've been

664
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: mentally being in it too as well. But UM, I

665
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: think you gotta have vision, and you gotta have you

666
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: gotta have the ability to play the game in your head.

667
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: You gotta have the ability to to um stand tall

668
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: when it when it's tough. And uh and also too,

669
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, to be around great teammates. They's been an

670
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: amazing journey and so really, um, you know, the bye

671
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: week was just God's perfect timing just for me to

672
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: be able to uh simply just kind of go into

673
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: a shell and just you know, I wasn't sure if

674
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't to be able to get the pen out

675
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: quite yet, but you know, just had to get the

676
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: confirmation and so doctor shouldn't said I could once he

677
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: saw my hand again, and uh, and everything was going

678
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: at an exponential rate because of all the treatment and

679
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: other things we were doing, and so um, you know,

680
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: all the innovative thoughts of them and everything else, and

681
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: so you know, um, I was able to get the

682
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: pen out. You know, I really wasn't supposed to throw

683
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: for a little bit longer. But you know, UM, I

684
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 1: was with my performance team, Tim, Tim, Tim Grover and

685
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: uh you know Amy was down their mode, just different

686
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: people and uh, coach will Be Decker uh and Dressa

687
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: and then um and coach Bible was actually there with

688
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: me too, UM and so we we uh we kind

689
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: of timp tossed me the ball and I kind of

690
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: tossed it back to him. He's all right, you can

691
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: do it. So then I kind of looked at the

692
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: ball again, you know me, And so I just picked

693
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: up the ball next day and just that day probably

694
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: twelve sixteen hours after the pen some somewhere on there

695
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: maybe less, and uh just started trying to throw. And

696
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: uh I had I had a plan in my head,

697
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: and I even beat my own plan just by having

698
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: amazing people around. So I'm grateful to God that I'm

699
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: able to do what I get to do every day,

700
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: but also to know that, um, you know, uh I

701
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: could do it with the passion, the joy and the

702
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: thing I think about it all too as well is

703
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: you know Um, I've always loved this game, and did

704
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: you be able to find that much more love for

705
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: it every day? Because you can take your time, you

706
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: can you know, well you know, you know and for

707
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: me and there is no other option, you know. And

708
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: so we have a goal. We have a goal to

709
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: to win. We have a goal to win it all

710
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: and um, everything we want to do is right there

711
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: in front of us. We got to take it one

712
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: step at a time. UM. I think that the thing

713
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: and rehab um just in general and the process has

714
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: been that, you know, you just take it the next step,

715
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: You just take the next step, the next breath. And

716
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: uh so that's been a cool journey. That was the

717
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: X quarterback Russell Wilson speaking to reporters. Some breaking here

718
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: on the Ode Beckham junior front. Now, I want to

719
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: preface that there are conflicting reports, so I'll tell you

720
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: what both reports are. ESPN insider Adam Schefter says that

721
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Ode Beckham Junior is expected to sign with the LA Rams,

722
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: a team that was recently in on Odell Beckham Junior

723
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: now may have claimed him, so excuse me, signed him,

724
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: not claimed him. Meanwhile, Kim Jones and Ian Rappaport, NFL

725
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Media NFL Network say that Odell Beckham Junior is still

726
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: narrowing down his choices and right now he's focused on

727
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Packers. So it sounds like at

728
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: least one report Rappaport is that he is between the

729
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: Rams and the Packers but still unsigned. Jessina Anderson echoing

730
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: that he is still on the fence. Meanwhile, Adam Schefter

731
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: saying he is expected to sign with the Rams. I'm

732
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: with Schefter. I'm gonna go with Schefter, Yeah, because he

733
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: used to write for the Rocky Mountain News when I

734
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: was in Denver, and he's, yeah, an acquaintance of mine.

735
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we're friends, but I think you should

736
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: claim it. He also has like twelve phones, so yeah, yeah,

737
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just get that feeling. But if

738
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: he is Jake, I mean, don't they have enough weapons

739
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: down now already? Well, I mean they, I mean Sean

740
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: McVay doesn't think so. I mean they feel like they

741
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: can add another weapon and a third target to Robert

742
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: Woods and Cooper Cup and feel like they can be

743
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: even more dynamic for Matthew Stafford. I mean either way,

744
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean the conflicting reports. Where they goes to Green Bay,

745
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: where they goes to Rams. I mean, these are two

746
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: very high powered offenses that they will be adding another

747
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: very talented football player to their roster. And it just

748
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: stinks to see OBJ go to a division rival or

749
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: within the NFC in general. But if he's going to

750
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: the Rams, I mean, part of it is the unique

751
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: aspect of OBJ wanting, you know, saying that he wanted

752
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: to go to Seattle, that Seattle was his favorite team

753
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: over the weekend. And I think from an initial standpoint,

754
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: thinking of playing with Russell Wilson, going to Seattle, playing

755
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: for Pete Carroll, all those things are attractive. But when

756
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: you talk about where the currents addis of the team

757
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: is and also where the offense is as well, I

758
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: also don't blame Odell Beckham Junior for thinking twice about

759
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: that decision and trying to figure out where is the

760
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: best scheme fit for him to be able to be

761
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: successful in these eight nine games where it's going to

762
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: be vital for him to not just be a part

763
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: of a winning team and a known program, but more

764
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: importantly to produce so that when you hit free agency

765
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: you can earn another big contract. All right, if you

766
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: are just now joining us, first of all, you're listening

767
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: to the huddle, and secondly, there is breaking news regarding

768
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior, conflicting reports from ESPN and NFL Network

769
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: ESPNS Adam Schefter saying Odell Beckham Junior expected to be

770
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: an la RAM, NFL Networks Ian Rappaport saying he is

771
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: still on the fence, currently choosing between similar offers from

772
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: the Packers and Rams. Will continuing following this story, but

773
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: mostly previewing the Seahawks upcoming game against the Packers in

774
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: at Lambeau Field. We're going in the trenches with Ray Roberts. Next,

775
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: you are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake

776
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: Keeps and Stacy Ross were and you guys ready with

777
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: a two hour preview of the Seahawks upcoming game at

778
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Lambeau against the Green Bay Packer's going to be joined

779
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: here in just a couple of seconds by Ray Roberts,

780
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: former Seahawks offensive lineman, in a voice on the Seahawks

781
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: pre and postgame show. He'll take us in the trenches

782
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: and help us understand everything we need to know there.

783
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: So let's bring them on right now. Hey, Ray, how's

784
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: it going? Yeah, it's going all right out here. Uh what?

785
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: I got crazy and got up this morning and went

786
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: for a frail walk. So I'm soaking wet and my

787
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: car trying to get back to the house. Wasn't a

788
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: smart move, but it was a move. Look, sometimes we

789
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: react out of emotion, out of ideas. In the moment,

790
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: that seemed great, like I'm gonna be healthy right now,

791
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get act, I'm gonna go outside and breathe

792
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: air have gone by and once did I think about

793
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: getting off the couching, And then all of a sudden

794
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: today would it raining? I said, you know what, well, Ray,

795
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: you learned a lesson and now you don't have to

796
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: You probably won't do that for another ten years, so

797
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: there you go, exactly. Yeah. So, Ray, what did you

798
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: did you think that with Obj out there, that that

799
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: the Seahawks would would take a shot with him? Because

800
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, to me, I feel like the receiver room,

801
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just feels like it's pretty far

802
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: down on the list as far as need, but you know,

803
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: it also is a pretty good athlete. Would you what

804
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: were you kind of thinking? U? And tell well, and

805
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: we don't know for sure if he's he's signed with

806
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: the Rams, but it sounds no honestly, like when it

807
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: when all this stuff first broke down, And just thinking

808
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: from my an Odell Beckham junior perspective, I thought coming

809
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: to Seattle might be kind of tough because I don't

810
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: think he sees himself as a number three receiver, and clearly,

811
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: if he came here, uh, he would kind of fit

812
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: into that space. But then when he came out and

813
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: said that this is a team that he would have

814
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: interested in, then that kind of change my mind because

815
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: then he would have had to put some thought into

816
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: like what role he would play when he came here,

817
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: and be willing to accept that. And so with that

818
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: being said, you know, I just think, you know, if

819
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: if he came here and there was a way that uh,

820
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: this offense and Russell Wilson could figure out a way

821
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: to to serve up three big time receivers and a

822
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: tight end that wants the ball, then then that's that

823
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: could be a good problem to have. And uh, you know,

824
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: he's such a dynamic dude, uh that uh, you know,

825
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: his yards after the catch. You know, I think he's

826
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: probably a little bit better catching those short passes and

827
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: turn them into long runs than than maybe uh Tyler

828
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: and DK are Uh so I think he could have

829
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: added to the to the offense that way. Um but um,

830
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: but my biggest concern was, uh, you know just how

831
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: hard it is for them to get the ball to

832
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: DKA and and Tyler where that you know, there's one

833
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: game where DK gets all the catches, there's another game

834
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: where Tyler gets all the catches. Now you got to

835
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: get old ll in there. So then does there a

836
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: third game where he gets all the catches and then

837
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: rotates suit? There never seems to be like a balance

838
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: and the amount of targets and receptions that those two

839
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: guys get. So then how are you going to bring

840
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: in another guy who likes a volume targets and and catches.

841
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: So that would that would have been my biggest concern.

842
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: But but if it was if this is a team

843
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: that he chose to come to, then I would be

844
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: more than willing to open the door up to him

845
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: and see if we could make it work. Ray, I'm

846
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: going to get off the subject just because I am

847
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: just emotionally hurt right now. Um So, I know how

848
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks they are always the answer is always more wide receivers.

849
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: Just get me more receivers when it's you, when it's

850
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: your only option and opportunity to upgrade with the serious

851
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: talent at this point in the season, why not? Um

852
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: what what? What could you lose at this point? Uh?

853
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: For for me, Ray, I go into this matchup with

854
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and the guy that I'm worried about.

855
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: I know, you know, the edge guys get a lot

856
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: of love and attention, and the safeties and linebackers, but

857
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: the guy that I'm worried about the most is the

858
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: big war Daddy number nineties. Having Kenny Clark in the middle.

859
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: What kind of a challenge is that going to be

860
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks and for that interior of that offensive line? Yeah,

861
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think those two the two

862
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: guards in the center, they're going to have their hands full. Uh.

863
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: You know that that guy can kind of beat you

864
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: with power, and he also has quickness that he can

865
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: beat you with. So you have to be like on

866
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: your best your best technique behavior to be able to

867
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: control him. And then also you know, if Chris Carson

868
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: is back and we're running the ball, like you have

869
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: to be able to control the middle of that defensive

870
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: line in order to run the ball, and he does

871
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: a really good job of locking it down. And to me, Jake,

872
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: it does. It doesn't really matter who they bring in

873
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: here at what part point of the season, whether it's

874
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: freaking oh, you know, Jerry Rice, if he was like

875
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: in his prime and you're bringing him back in here,

876
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: none of it is going to work until the offensive

877
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: line starts planned better and they are capable of plan better,

878
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: and they just haven't quite gotten there yet. So protection wise,

879
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: I think they can play better. Run blocking wise, they

880
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: can play better, and that includes like with the running

881
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: back in the holes and the tight ends and the

882
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: receivers doing their parts of it too. But I still

883
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: don't think that this offensive line is a groove yet

884
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: on either either way. Like, they moments running the ball well,

885
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: and they have their moments when they pass blocked well,

886
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: but they haven't put together a complete game. And so

887
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: to me, nothing is really gonna jump start this offense

888
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: more than the offensive line up and up in their

889
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: game and so um to me, that's kind of where

890
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: the success of the offense lies. We don't what are

891
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: some specific issues that you're seeing just so people listening

892
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: kind of know what to watch for when you talk

893
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: about the offensive line just not jelling yet. Yeah, sou

894
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: to the offensive line. Out of all the groups on

895
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: the on the field, you have to have five dudes

896
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: that are working as one, and you can't have one

897
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: dude screw it up because in that one mess up

898
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: can mess up the whole place. So like on defensive line,

899
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: you can have four dudes, get three of the four

900
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: getting blocked, and the one dude can can make the play.

901
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: You can't have that same thing on the offense. And

902
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: on the offense, everybody's taking their turn doing it. So

903
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: there'll be one play where the the the guard and

904
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: the center has a good movement on the defensive tackle

905
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: and there's a crease up in there to run the ball,

906
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: but then the backside tackle the backside guard doesn't get

907
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: the cut off, and then a defensive tackle slams down

908
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: into the line and makes the tackle, or or the

909
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: same thing can happen out on the edge where you

910
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: maybe have a good combo with the tackle and the

911
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: and the tight end, but then the center and the guard,

912
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: you know, kind of messes up there thing. And then

913
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: and then it's the run bage is tackled in the backfield,

914
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: so none of that stuff is kind of really jailed.

915
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: And the same thing in pass protection. Pass protaction's getting

916
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: they're getting better at passing off games, but they're not

917
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: very good at it still. And so when when the

918
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: line is running stunts, they get on the offenses on

919
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: the offensive linemen are on different levels, so then it

920
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: makes it easy to then, Uh, it's kind of like

921
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: a pick and roll. So if the guard the defensive

922
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: tackle can pick the tackle, he can't get back in

923
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: front of the defensive tackle. But then the guard is

924
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: coming off on the looper, well, then the defensive tackle

925
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: is free. So you can't really see all that when

926
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying and it, but it's kind of like a

927
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: pick and roll, and so if you're on different levels,

928
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: it make it really hard to pick that up. So

929
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: those types of things are still happening with this offensive line,

930
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: and it's not because they're not good enough to do it.

931
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just still I still think that

932
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: it's just like this whole hangover of just getting all

933
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: these reps together. I mean, you have some really good

934
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: football players up there, they're just not planning to the

935
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: capabilities right at this moment. But when they do, I

936
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: think the offense will take off. And you have plenty

937
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: of weapons here to do that, whether it's Freddie Swain

938
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: in that third spot or the escort in the in

939
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: that third spot, getting the running game going, getting the

940
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: screen game. There's a there's plenty of stuff here for

941
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: this offense to be successful, but I think it starts

942
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: with that, with the with the jail of the offensive line.

943
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: That's interesting you talk about the stunt ray because I

944
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: was looking at that and you know, the the Jacksonville

945
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: Jaguars ran one where they got home on it and

946
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: it was with that Josh Allen Kidd on the outside

947
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: and it looked like the d tackle just kind of overwhelmed.

948
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: I think it was Gabe Jackson and then Brandon Shell

949
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: wasn't able to get to them. But yeah, it's it's

950
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: interesting to hear it the way you put it, because

951
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: I guess that's a rule, right that you have to

952
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: stay pretty much on that same level. How difficult is

953
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: that to pick up though, because a lot of times

954
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: you just go, oh man, that's easy, that's very basically

955
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: got to pick it up. But you know it doesn't

956
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: get picked up quite a bit, and they're still running

957
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: stunts in the NFL, so it must be more more

958
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: difficult than it looks. Yeah, it is really difficult. A

959
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: lot of it too, Dave comes down to like game

960
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: like game study and like understanding situations when they when

961
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: they tend to like to run games, and like the

962
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: study stuff all the way down to like the weight

963
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: that a dude had on his fingers or where he

964
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: was leaning, or even if he was like lined up

965
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: like just a little bit wider on the guard than

966
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: he typically is, then I'm already alerting myself that this

967
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: dude is going to run a game of some kind

968
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: and then and then that way you anticipate it and

969
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: it may or may not happen, but if when it

970
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: does happen, you're more readily to react to it. But

971
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: they are difficult because if you think about it, if

972
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: you compare it to the pick and roll and basketball

973
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: people still can't delay. Yeah, that is the That is

974
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: the easiest basketball play in the history of basketball, and

975
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: you still can't figure out how to defend it. And

976
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: so it is really super hard on the football field

977
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. But you got to put

978
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: in a lot of time and uh, study in it

979
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: and understanding the down and situation and what they like

980
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: to do during those downs and situations on different parts

981
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: of the field when they tend to run the games,

982
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: when they tend not to run the games, like those

983
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: types of things, looking at the width of the linebacker,

984
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: or you know, if the if the defensive end is

985
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: closing down or getting back or back off the ball,

986
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: like all these different kinds of things you can look

987
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: at the kind of give you some clues as to

988
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: what might be happening so you can anticipate that. And

989
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: it just takes a lot of time and practice. And

990
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: then with all the different pieces on the offensive line,

991
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: the way they switched things around, just kind of understanding

992
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: all that time and stuff too, uh takes a little bit,

993
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: takes a little bit longer. And it's and quite frankly,

994
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: it's taken longer for this offensive line than I thought

995
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: it would. I mean, yeah, we missed the reps in

996
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: the preseason and all that. Like three or four games

997
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: in they should have been planning better and they haven't

998
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: quite gotten there yet. Yeah, It's it's a good point.

999
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: And honestly, Ray, this is why we turn you for

1000
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: in the trenches to help us understand a bit more

1001
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: about this. And something tells me we're gonna have a

1002
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: lot of questions next week when you join us on

1003
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: the huddle again, because there's so much to dissect with

1004
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: this offense in the offensive line especially. He is Ray Roberts.

1005
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: You can hear him every Thursday on the huddle. You

1006
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: don't have to wait until next Thursday, though, because you

1007
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: can tune in three hours before the Seahawks game to

1008
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: hear Ray on the Seahawks pre and post game show.

1009
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: All right, have a good weekend, Ray. Can't we talk

1010
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: to you next week? Thanks? Ray? Yeah, no problem in Jake.

1011
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: If you'd need me, man, I'll come give you a

1012
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: big hug to make you feel better. Bro. I appreciate that, Man,

1013
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: I could I could usually to write about now, So

1014
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: get through this. Thanks for the offer. I can definitely

1015
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: feel your pain, brother, and so if you need me,

1016
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: just let me know. I'll come give you a big

1017
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: Ray hug. All right, Man, appreciate it. He is Ray

1018
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: Roberts going in the trenches with Ray during the huddle

1019
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: every week. Again, Ray referencing that news breaking from ESPNS

1020
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: Adam Schafter that Odell Beckham Junior is expected to sign

1021
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: with the LA Rams. Some early conflicting reports, but looks

1022
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: like that deal could be getting done here pretty soon.

1023
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: We'll be covering that first though. We're going to talk

1024
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 1: but the Voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, coming up next.

1025
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay

1026
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: Keeps and Stacy Ross. Now I do have to start

1027
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: with the breaking news, Steve Rabel, Voice of the Seahawks

1028
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: joining joining us right now and break no rabes. As

1029
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: much as it is exciting to everyone that you're joining us,

1030
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: and that is, I mean, that's news I'm informing you

1031
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: guys of the breaking news is that Odell Beckham Junior

1032
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: is expected to sign with the Rams. So we're gonna

1033
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: preview this game against the Packers and we're going to

1034
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: focus on the Seahawks. But I just want to get

1035
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: your quick reaction to that news, given that the Seahawks

1036
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: were a name connected to Odell right well, I can't

1037
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: tell you that I'm unhappy that that happened. I mean,

1038
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: I am to the extent that I hate for the

1039
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks to have to play the Rams with yet another weapon.

1040
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: But you know Odell Beckham Junior is a terrific receiver,

1041
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: no question about about it. But this is sort of

1042
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: a what have you done for me lately kind of

1043
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: game and league, And you know, I mean it's been

1044
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: He's had a couple of years now with Cleveland and

1045
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: he hasn't exactly set the world on fireback there. You

1046
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: can blame it on the quarterback, you can blame it

1047
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: on the system, but you know, he's not been what

1048
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: they thought he was going to be there. And I

1049
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: just think maybe it's less about about about OBJ and

1050
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: more about what the Seahawks already have. And do you

1051
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: want to now slice down what you already have been

1052
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: setting the table for with DK and Tyler and Everett

1053
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: and Will and Swain and Eskridge is coming back? Do

1054
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: you want to cut that down even more? You know,

1055
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: with a guy who perhaps wants the ball in his

1056
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: hands more than you're able to get it to him.

1057
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: So for all those reasons, I'm just sort of glad

1058
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: it worked out the way I wish he had ended

1059
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: up with, you know, like the Canton Bulldogs or somebody,

1060
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody that we would really never have to face. Yeah,

1061
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: I know, more weapons in the in the NFC West.

1062
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: That's just what we need. And I wonder, I mean

1063
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: with Woods there and they got Tyler Higbee and they've

1064
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: got you know, Cooper cup I think he already has

1065
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 1: over like a I know he has over a thousand,

1066
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: and he has I think over a hundred targets. I mean,

1067
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: it could be a problem there. Maybe it'll be good

1068
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: thing rapes. Maybe he'll go down there and implode and

1069
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: he'll ruin the uh, the chemistry for the Los Angeles

1070
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: Ram offense. Well, you know, yeah, hate for any of

1071
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: those things to happen, but he couldn't happen to a

1072
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: nice for organization if that were the kid. No, I

1073
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm I'm just I like I like the

1074
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: guys that they have here, you know. And besides, you

1075
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: bring a guy in, he's not going to learn the

1076
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: thing overnight. And you just can't go out there and say, Okay,

1077
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: in the huddle, okay, run an eighteen yard out route

1078
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: or just go deep and I'll throw it to you.

1079
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: That's not the way this offense is designed. So this

1080
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: is you know, you're talking about bringing somebody in who

1081
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: then there's a there's an you know, a learning curve.

1082
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: Involved there. This way, you don't have to worry about it.

1083
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: And you got your you know, you got your flamethrower back.

1084
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: You got a guy who's gonna go out there and

1085
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: make plays for you. No matter who he's throwing to,

1086
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, he's going to get the ball to the receiver.

1087
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm I'm pretty happy with the guys we

1088
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: got Raves. This is a huge challenge here in Green

1089
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: Bay coming up. I mean, this is I'm honestly this

1090
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: could really set you up in a really positive way

1091
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: for a special stretch down here in the second half

1092
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: of the season. What has to happen in this game

1093
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: in order for the Seahawks to have a chance to win, well,

1094
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: I think build on what you did coming out of

1095
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville game and even in the weeks leading up

1096
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: to it. You know, we've been talking about the Seahall

1097
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: defense for the first part of the season about you know,

1098
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: giving up a lot of yards and and you know,

1099
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: couldn't get off the field for a while there on

1100
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: third down. At least early in the season. When you

1101
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: take a look at the staff, that defense has really

1102
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: started to ramp up. You know, they're playing they're playing

1103
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: pretty well, what was the stat I just saw there.

1104
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: The fourth best team in the league in points ans

1105
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: or something like that. They're near the top in red

1106
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: zone defense. They're doing a lot of things really right

1107
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: on defense. Now, yeah, they're giving up some yards, giving

1108
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: up some first downs, and unfortunately, what that does is

1109
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: it keeps your offense on the sidelines. So I like

1110
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: to always think about it in reverse. I like to think,

1111
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: as you probably do, Jake, as an offensive player, when

1112
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: you can stay on the field offensively, it takes some

1113
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: of that pressure off your defense when you can convert

1114
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: third downs. As we were just in there listening to

1115
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett a couple of minutes ago, and he said,

1116
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty much the number one thing that this

1117
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: offense has to do is convert third downs. Be more

1118
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: successful that way. But you know, there are a lot

1119
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: of things that you can do better. Need to run

1120
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: the ball better. If Chris Carson can come back, that

1121
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: will certainly help. With Russell back, I think you'll be

1122
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: looking at throwing the ball a little bit better, throwing

1123
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: guys open, be more confident in that passing attack. And

1124
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: then with the defense the way they're playing, I think

1125
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: you know everything is pointing right now for this team.

1126
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: When you look around at some of the other teams

1127
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: that have guys injured, how many players are really hurt

1128
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks are getting guys back just at the

1129
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: right time. I think all the arrows are pointing up. Hey,

1130
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: when you look at this matchup, obviously there's a lot

1131
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: of areas that based on the stats the Seahawks have

1132
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: through eight weeks, favor the Packers. Like you said, though

1133
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: they're getting some important pieces back. It starts with Russell Wilson.

1134
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: And not only that, but every team, no matter how good,

1135
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: has a weakness, has a hole. So when you look

1136
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: at the Packers, I mean, where do you see Seattle

1137
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: with an opportunity? Yeah, Packers don't have a lot of

1138
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: a lot of holes. And let's leave offense aside for

1139
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: a second. Just looking at the defense, I was I

1140
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: was struck by by how strong the Packers appear up

1141
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: the middle. You know, they got a couple of pretty

1142
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: good defensive tackles in there, if both can play this week.

1143
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: They got terrific middle linebacker, they got two really good

1144
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: safety So up the middle of the defense, it's sort

1145
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: of like the middle of a baseball team. You know,

1146
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: from catcher through the a shortstop through center field, you

1147
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: want to be really stout, and I think the Packers

1148
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: are that the problem for anybody playing the Packers is

1149
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: they're also pretty good on the edges, so you know,

1150
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: where do you attack them? And they're good in the secondary.

1151
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: So that's what's been I'm sure on the mind of

1152
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: Shane Walter and Pete Carroll all through the bye week

1153
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: is where do you go about attacking these guys? And

1154
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: and like Tyler said, you know, do you do you

1155
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: start a game throwing long to short or do you

1156
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: start the game throwing short to long? And and I

1157
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: think this offense has gotten better this season going short

1158
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: to long, you know, playing within yourself, waiting for the

1159
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: opportunities and then and then throwing deep. You know, I

1160
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: think that's that's the best about the best I can

1161
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: do for against a team that really doesn't have a

1162
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: whole lot of weaknesses, at least as as I see it.

1163
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: And you know, Dave looks at the defense more closely

1164
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: than I do, so he may have a better a

1165
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: better handle on that. Yeah. Well, I mean everything you

1166
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: just described there, I mean, we're screwed. It sounds like that.

1167
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, Listen Raves. One of

1168
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,959
Speaker 1: the things interesting. We were talking about this this morning,

1169
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: and I can't remember what year it changed, but I

1170
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: know the year that I was there. It was nineteen

1171
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: ninety and Tony Mandrich who was the first round draft choice,

1172
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: remember he was on the cover Sports Illustrated. But that

1173
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: was back when they used to play half their games

1174
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, and I got a chance to play one

1175
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: of those. I think you did too, And it was

1176
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: a weird deal because I think it was a like

1177
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: a baseball stadium and so the two teams were on

1178
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: the same side. This was what my dad would call

1179
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: mickey mouse. This is not like NFL. I mean, this

1180
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: was like, it was weird. It was kind of kind

1181
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: of funky the way they had the two teams on

1182
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: the same sidelines, And uh yeah, that was kind of

1183
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: an interesting experience. But you know, with all of the

1184
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: lore that surrounds Packer Stadium, the frozen tundra all that,

1185
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting that they actually used to give up

1186
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: half the games to play I guess you know. Packer

1187
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: Stadium out there was Lambeau was considered to be like

1188
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: out in the Sticks or something. Yeah, I feel the

1189
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: same way. I mean when I went to visit there

1190
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: coming out of college after my final season, they brought

1191
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: me up there to have my knee checked and I

1192
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: had had surgery, and Bart Starr was the coach at

1193
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: the time. Well, you know, Bart Starr was one of

1194
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks ever to play in this league. He

1195
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: wasn't one of the greatest coaches ever to coach, probably

1196
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: through no fault of his own. But uh, you know,

1197
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: the Packers haven't always been great. I mean through the

1198
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: days of Lombardi and all that. Then they fell on

1199
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: some hard times and then, of course not really until

1200
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: Mike got there did they really find their way back

1201
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: to that title of title town. So they they did.

1202
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: They split some of their games and they, you know,

1203
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: bring everybody down to Milwaukee. I played there my rookie season,

1204
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: picked up a block punt and ran it in for

1205
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and Milwaukee was a great place and there

1206
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: were dozens of people in the stands to celebrate. There

1207
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: were even more than dozens, I think there were. The

1208
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: family was there. My parents brought friends and family up

1209
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: from Louisville, Kentucky. Drove like a full day to get

1210
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 1: up there and watch a game in Milwaukee, and uh so, yeah,

1211
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: those were those were the old days. But now you

1212
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: can't imagine the Packers playing any place other than the

1213
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: hallow browns of Lambe, which just doesn't make any sense. Oh,

1214
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: there was probably all these Rabel jerseys in the stands

1215
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: and everything. The other day, quick story, I was leaving

1216
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: the stadium and uh there was a guy stumbling around.

1217
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: He had a five o'clock shadow and he's looked hammered,

1218
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: and uh, I was like, and I look closer, and

1219
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: he's wearing a Rabel jersey. No he was not, Yeah

1220
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: he was. And so I texted that to our producer

1221
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Brian O'Connell and also Rabel, and O'Connell said, that actually

1222
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: was Rabel actually is. All right, he is the voice

1223
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Rabe's good talking to you

1224
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: as always. We'll talk to you next week, all right, kids,

1225
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: thanks s Yeah, ye, all right. We'll tell you guys

1226
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: everything you need to know about the Packers coming your

1227
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: way next. On the huddle. This is the Huddle with

1228
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross. We are getting

1229
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: you guys ready for the Seahawks. Upcoming game against the Packers.

1230
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: This one's going to be on the road at Lambo,

1231
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: where I know you don't want to hear this part.

1232
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: The Seahawks have not one since nineteen ninety nine. Though

1233
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: it hasn't been a lopsided series between these two teams,

1234
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of been that each home team usually wins

1235
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: its battle at home. The Seahawks have had success at

1236
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: home against the Packers vice versa. So Seahawks obviously hoping

1237
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: that they can break this trend this time around. So

1238
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: let's look at where there's some potential weaknesses or opportunities

1239
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: against this Packers team. There aren't a ton, There aren't

1240
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: a ton, but there are some. So let's just look

1241
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: over like what we're dealing with with the Packers here.

1242
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: They aren't really like number one in any particular category,

1243
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: though there's seven and two, so they're certainly one of

1244
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: the better teams in the league and certainly a top

1245
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,959
Speaker 1: two team, top three team in the NFC as a whole.

1246
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: They'll likely have Aaron Rodgers back, though he remains on

1247
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: the COVID list right now, Dave, when you're looking at

1248
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: maybe the best part of this Packers team, that the

1249
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: Seahawks will have to look out for and then an opportunity.

1250
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: What are you seeing, Well, it's always Aaron Rodgers. I mean,

1251
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: look that and Davante Adams. I've long thought Davanta Adams

1252
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: is the best receiver in the league. I just love

1253
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: the way he runs his routes everything. But yeah, I

1254
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: mean they've got so many Aaron Jones, I mean you

1255
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: get those three guys right there. I know that Tanyan

1256
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember if he's even healthy, but he's

1257
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: done for the year. Yeah, that's right. He was a

1258
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: good tight end for them. But I mean, look, he

1259
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: has weapons. Whoever you know he is thrown to Aaron Rodgers,

1260
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's there's a typically going to be a completion.

1261
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: I was just looking. He's like sixty eight percent against

1262
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: He's nine and six against the Seahawks, sixty eight percent

1263
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: completion percentage. And it's like twelve touchdowns and two interceptions

1264
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: in what fifteen games that he's played. And like, like

1265
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: you said, it's a very much home heavy as far

1266
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: as wins go. If you're last time they won here

1267
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: was two thousand and eight. Last time the Seahawks won

1268
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: their ninety nine just to recap. So yeah, it's you

1269
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: look at that, but then you all of a sudden go, wait,

1270
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: you forgot about their defense because whenever you think of

1271
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay, you just think at Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, exactly.

1272
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: So you look at you know, especially being sixth and

1273
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: points scored or allowing just twenty points twenty points a game.

1274
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what the Seahawk defense right now

1275
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: is playing at the level the last three games there,

1276
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: I think they would be number two in yardage and

1277
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: uh and number two in points allowed. The way that

1278
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: they're playing, they're averaging about a little bit over fourteen

1279
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: points a game in the last three and about you

1280
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: know about, like I said, three hundred twenty yards and

1281
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: that's it's wild that at fourteen there's a team that's better.

1282
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: That's one hundred and thirty yard difference from where they

1283
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: were playing as far as the yardage goes. So yeah,

1284
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: it's it's it's at least on the repair. But but yeah,

1285
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: you look at their defense and that that might be

1286
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: the bigger concern. Jake, I'm more concerned about the development

1287
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,479
Speaker 1: of the offense than I am the defense. I feel

1288
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: like the defense. We saw this movie last year you know,

1289
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: they got better. They started off terrible. And yet with

1290
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: the offense without Chris Carson and really esk Ridge and

1291
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: then you're the main guy, Russell Wilson have early figured

1292
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: this offense out. It doesn't really have a flow yet. Yeah,

1293
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: they don't really know who they want to be yet

1294
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: and who they're allowed to be. I think that that

1295
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: is the other thing that you know, factors into this equation,

1296
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: and that part has to get figured out at the

1297
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: midway point of the season and in this second half.

1298
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: That's vital. That is going to be the whole key

1299
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: to whether you make the playoffs or not. Just even

1300
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: with the defense playing well, if you don't have this

1301
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: offense functioning at a level where they can, you know,

1302
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: play a full game for sixty minutes, I mean, you're

1303
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: going to be in a really difficult spot. So dred

1304
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: percent agree with you from that offensive perspective. And then defensively,

1305
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: I want to see them do it against a legitimate

1306
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: playoff caliber team and against a very good offense. And

1307
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: so if the defense can can play to the standard

1308
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: of which they've done over the last couple of weeks

1309
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: against Green Bay against Aaron Rodgers, you certainly have to

1310
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: feel very very good about that turnaround, and if and

1311
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: if if they don't, it'll be extremely revealing. And so

1312
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: that's what you know out of anything else. There's so

1313
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: many great storylines that are heading into this game. But

1314
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm also extremely intrigued to learn so much about the

1315
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks team, you know, heading into lambeau Field this weekend,

1316
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna tell us a lot about

1317
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: who this team really is and what we can expect

1318
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season moving forward. So, uh,

1319
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: you're right, Dave, that that has to be an element

1320
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: where they figure out between pass the passing and the

1321
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: running game, where they can find that balance, what they're

1322
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: gonna what they're gonna lean into, and really where they're

1323
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: going to live and die. Buy Is that going to

1324
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: be through Russell Wilson? Is that going to be through

1325
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: the running game? Either way, they have to choose. They

1326
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: have to figure it out in order to give them

1327
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: the best chance for the rest of the season. I'm sorry,

1328
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: really quick correction. Nine games Aaron Rodgers played against Seattle,

1329
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: they're six and three, so and but yeah, sixty twelve touchdowns,

1330
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: two interceptions plays. Well, it's it's gonna be tough. It's

1331
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. I'm We've got about a minute and

1332
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: a half, but I want to end with that idea

1333
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: of like what you can learn from Seattle. So, Jake,

1334
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: I'll start with you for this one, and you kind

1335
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: of answered it, but just to jump back to it,

1336
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: you said that we can learn something big or a

1337
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: couple big things about the Seahawks, and then you started

1338
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: talking about identity. Is identity what you think we can

1339
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: learn or what in particular do you think we have

1340
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: a chance to learn. Yeah, we have a chance to

1341
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: learn identity. We have a chance to learn who is

1342
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: this team really going to be and what are they

1343
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: truly capable of? Right? Is this a legitimate playoff team

1344
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: like we all believe they are capable of becoming or

1345
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: are they just simply not? Are they not a team

1346
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: that can contend with this year at least for twenty

1347
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: twenty one against some of the best, uh you know,

1348
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: playoff caliber teams like Green Bay, like Arizona and and

1349
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: those types of teams. I think that part of it

1350
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: will be revealing. But I think when you're talking about

1351
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: from an offensive perspective and you have Russell Wilson coming back,

1352
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: and you have the bye week to reassess and reevaluate

1353
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: how to get the best out of your players and

1354
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: your offense. If this group still looks discombobulated and not

1355
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: in sync, I'm not gonna panic tremendously because it's Russell

1356
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: Wilson's first time back, but it will be concerning, no

1357
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: doubt about that. All Right, big questions, players to watch,

1358
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: keys to the game. Will give you all of those

1359
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: from us. That is coming up next on the huddle.

1360
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: This is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and

1361
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. We are going to be joined here by

1362
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,479
Speaker 1: Seahawks Dot Com reporter John Boyle. John, I've given Dave

1363
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: and Jake and myself but homework assignments for our last

1364
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: couple minutes here with you guys to give us a

1365
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: player to watch and then one big question. So I'm

1366
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: springing it on you. It's last second, but there are

1367
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: a lot of choices here, your play year to watch

1368
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: and maybe a question you have for this game for Seattle.

1369
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, can I just be super obvious and say,

1370
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson absolutely does that count? I mean, we're obviously

1371
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: we're assuming he's back and playing, and if he is, look,

1372
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: it's been a tough place for him and for the

1373
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: seasks to play over the years in Green Bay. They're

1374
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: owing for their playoffs included. So if that offense can

1375
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: get going and maybe avoid the early hole they've had

1376
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: some of these other losses there, that's to me the

1377
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: biggest difference maker in this game. And what else did

1378
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: you need for me? I forgot already? You know what

1379
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: it could be the same thing related. The biggest question

1380
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: could just be what's he look like? Can he actually

1381
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: went on the road? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's perfect.

1382
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 1: Is what does this offense look like? I mean, they've

1383
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: been kind of up and down without Russell Wilson in there.

1384
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: That the run game has been inconsistent other than really

1385
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: that one half against Pittsburgh when they were really good.

1386
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: So if they can get that offense going, that question

1387
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: to me is, well, I guess now I'm out thinking myself.

1388
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: And the other question I want to know is how

1389
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: real is what we've seen from the defense. Oh, that's

1390
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: so good the last few weeks, But they haven't faced

1391
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: anybody like Aaron Rodgers and that offense. So you know,

1392
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: I think this game, assuming Aaron Rodgers does get cleared

1393
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: and he plays, is going to tell us a lot

1394
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: about the improvements we've seen from the defense last four

1395
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: or five games. Boyle. We talked to Freddie Swain and

1396
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: I asked about Russell's fastball and everything, and he gave

1397
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: us one word answers. It was like it's top secret.

1398
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: So are they trying to trying to keep a lid

1399
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: on that or you know, what's anything you can tell

1400
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: us about Russell and throwing the ball. I mean, the

1401
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: times I've been out in practice, he knows, looked pretty

1402
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: much like normal. And as he said, you know, the

1403
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: very first time he started throwing, and whenever, that was

1404
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: last week, Right, I've got a pin out, there's a

1405
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: couple of throws, there's kind of ooh, this is different.

1406
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: And then but he said, it's it's feeling normal again.

1407
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's not really feeling any effects of it.

1408
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he's maybe not quite all the way back to

1409
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: one hundred percent yet, but he said he's whatever ninety percent,

1410
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: and ninety percent of Russell Wilson is still prettydamn good.

1411
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: So you know, from what I've seen in practice, he's

1412
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: making the throws, he's throwing it deep down field. He's,

1413
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, doing what you would expect from Russell Wilson. John.

1414
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: You hear the defensive players talk about the Green Bay

1415
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: Packers offense and particularly Aaron Rodgers, and you just hear

1416
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: this tremendous reverence for Aaron Rodgers in his game and

1417
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: what he is able to do. What do you think

1418
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: is going to be the biggest challenge for the Seahawks

1419
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: defense facing facing this Green Bay Packers offense. You know,

1420
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: to me, it's just it's overall just the way Aaron

1421
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers controls the game. I mean, obviously he can make

1422
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: some crazy throws, he's so talented, but it's it's the

1423
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: checks he makes to change plays and and you know,

1424
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: he knows he's seen so much defensively. If he recognizes something,

1425
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: he's going to get them into a better play. And

1426
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: it's you know, obviously he's famous for the heart count,

1427
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: getting those free plays or catching a guy trying to

1428
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: get off the field in the substitution situation. You know,

1429
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: you can't give him those extra plays. He's good enough

1430
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: with the normal amount of plays. You give him some

1431
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: free for down some pretty chances to take deep balls.

1432
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: Year in trouble. So it's just, you know, it's trying

1433
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: to trying to beat him or you know, not beat

1434
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: him his own game, but just don't let him beat

1435
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: you with all those things he does to just be

1436
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: so in control of everything. Hey, what's the impression you

1437
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 1: get about the availability your status of Chris Carson and Dscridge.

1438
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: I can't tell if Pete Carroll's just trying not to

1439
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: be too optimistic or if there's a concern they won't play.

1440
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean, what's your read? You know, I get the

1441
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: impression it's not you know, trying to avoid actions. Mean,

1442
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: it's just they really want to see how those guys

1443
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: get through the week. It's been you know, it's been

1444
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: four games for Chris Carson, has been almost the entire

1445
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: season for Dscridge. So it really is just the case of, Okay,

1446
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: they look good Wednesday, how do they feel coming out

1447
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: of that, How do you look Thursday and get through

1448
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: the week? I mean, obviously, I think we'll get a

1449
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: pretty clear indication on Saturday, because to get those guys

1450
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: to play Sunday, you got to add them to the roster,

1451
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: and that has to happen by Saturday at one o'clock.

1452
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: Pacific time, So we'll find out. You know, Pete Carroll

1453
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: might tell us tomorrow when he talks to the media.

1454
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: We'll see, you know, he might be pretty confident those guys,

1455
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: but you know, I'd like to think we might see

1456
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: him both back and maybe you limit their roles and

1457
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: you don't you ask Chris Carson carry the ball twenty

1458
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: times or anything, but you kind of get him back

1459
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: in there, get a feel for it. But again, I

1460
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: just I don't think they really know quite yet until

1461
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: they see a little more out of those two in practice. Boyle,

1462
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: do you get any idea or sort of feel for

1463
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: what most guys did during the bye week? Did most

1464
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: guys stick around? You think were their guys taking vacations?

1465
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: Did you hear anything? You know, I haven't talked to

1466
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: a ton of the guys about that because we're not

1467
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: on the locker room obviously with the COVID protocols, but

1468
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: just you know, honestly, we know more about that now

1469
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: with social media, and definitely some guys traveled out Quandary

1470
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: Dicks who talked to us he went back home in Texas,

1471
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: had some good family time. But I think, you know,

1472
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: probably a typical mix some guys just stayed home, laid loafe.

1473
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: You guys went went on the road, And I don't

1474
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: think anybody was going on any lavish vacations other than

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams joking about going to Paris. But I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think for the most part it was

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Speaker 1: just either go home and see family or stay home

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01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: and hang out family. Well, I had to eat postic.

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: Him and I were great minds, think alike. We were

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01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: both at the Great Wolf Lodge this past week. Um,

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Speaker 1: So you know there's there's some that stayed local and

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01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: just did some stuff with family as well. Uh. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, John, the the other thing that I was

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: really curious to get your your take on, you know,

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01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: from from that offense perspective. You talked about Chris Carson

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: the running game. Um, but how about the identity aspect

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01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: of this offense and you know who they want to be. Uh.

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: We've talked about this group wanting to get back to

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Speaker 1: the running game while Russell Wilson was out. How do

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Speaker 1: you utilize how do you put it all together under

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01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: this uh? First year was Shane Waldron. Where where do

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01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: you feel like the status of this offense is internally

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01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: in terms of what they want to do. I think

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01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: that they feel like I would think they feel like

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01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: they're still kind of finding it. I mean, you got

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: a new coordinator, there's going to be some adjustment. And

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Speaker 1: then maybe right when you feel like you're point of

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: using you should be hitting your stride boom, you lose

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01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: your quarterback for a month. So you know they're obviously

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Speaker 1: not a finished product yet. Getting Russell Wilson backs certainly

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01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: will help get them there. But yeah, I mean they

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01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: want to be able to run the ball better. I

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01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: think it goes back to the balance, not the balance

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01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: in terms of numbers, but the balance just in terms

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01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: of being able to do everything well when you need it.

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: And you know the game as a prime example, that's

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: a really good defense. We don't know if the weather's

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 1: going to be like you don't want to go into

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01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: that game one dimensional either way. Really, you want to

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: be able to do what you need to do to

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01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: move the ball depending on what a good defense does

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01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: view what the conditions might do. But look, we saw

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: what happens also when you go up and throw the ball.

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01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Locket Dk metcalf a bunch last week or two

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: weekends ago, and that can work really well. So I think,

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01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, to me, when we talk about balance, I

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 1: want to see him just do whatever is working well

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01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: and and can help them win games. And if that's

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01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: running the ball, great, if it's thrown in a bunch

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01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: to your weapons, do that. Have you seen some gradual improvements,

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01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: specifically with the pass rush, because if you look at

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01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers's splits when under pressure or not no surprise here,

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: same as any other quarterback, but struggles a bit more

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01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: under pressure. And you've seen good numbers from the defense

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: as a whole, but those sack numbers are still pretty low.

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: What's been the common thread with those being you know

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01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 1: the way they are. Yeah, you know, the sack numbers

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01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: haven't been great, but they do feel like they're getting

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01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: better in terms of just the overall the pressure the

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01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: affecting the quarterback. You know, I think they only sack

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01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence maybe once last game, but they hit him

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01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: a bunch. They're batton balls down to the line of scrimmage.

1533
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: Think that three or four batted balls. So sometimes you

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: can really affect a quarterback without the sacks, and that's

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01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: kind of what was the case in the last game. Obviously,

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01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: you'd love to Sackaron Rodgers a bunch if you can,

1537
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: but it's you know, getting Daryl Taylor back helps a

1538
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: lot they you know, I think they've seen better play

1539
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 1: out of Carlos Dumblap these last two three weeks. So yeah,

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01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean to your point, and no quarterback likes pressure,

1541
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: but Aaron Rodgers is one that if you give him time,

1542
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: will just absolutely kill you. So they need to get

1543
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: that pastors going. Hey, John, with the whole OBJ thing

1544
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: going around, we just talked to Freddie Swain and you've

1545
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: talked to those guys receivers, they seem unusual and you know,

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01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: I thought, look, this this might be maybe the best

1547
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: position group that they have. Um. But you know, I

1548
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: know for Jake, Jake can never have enough receivers. You know,

1549
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: he's got to have every receiver in the world and

1550
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 1: on his roster. But because he's a quarterbar back, yeah, yeah,

1551
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: but no. But seriously, as far as that room and

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01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: the culture there, it just seems like it truly is

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01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are like pulling for each other.

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01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: Just I don't know who sets the tone there. Do

1555
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: you think it's it's Tyler Lockett or is it just everybody.

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01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: I think it's Tyler, and I think it probably comes

1557
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: from guys like Doug Baldwin before that, and you know

1558
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: that it's just kind of in the culture here all along.

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01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: At starting early on, they ran the ball so much

1560
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: in those Marshall Lynch days, you had to have that

1561
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: mentality of you know, you know you're not going to

1562
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: get yours every game, you're your room for your guys,

1563
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: You're you're taking pride in the run blocking all that,

1564
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: and I think that's just become the culture in this room.

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: And look, I'm not saying that no b J would

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: have ruined that culture, and for all we know he's

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: going to be a great addition of the r but

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01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: this group is also really confident in what they have

1569
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,879
Speaker 1: and you know they they're getting the Escridge back hopefully

1570
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: this week, and he can add a different element and

1571
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: dynamic to that offense that you know, nobody else is

1572
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 1: quite the same player as him. So they love that group.

1573
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a really talented group. That's not to

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01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: say that Adam, a player of OBJS caliber, would have

1575
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: made it even better, but I don't think not getting

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: him as something that's gonna do mere season and certainly

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01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: a positioned her, but as he said, is pretty loaded.

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Speaker 1: He is. Seahawks dot Com reporter John Boyle joins us

1579
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: every single week on the huddle. John, good talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Have a good weekend. Great, thanks and good talking to

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Speaker 1: you guys here. Thanks John. All right, we have just

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01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 1: five seconds here, Dave your player to watch. Oh shoot,

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: I forgot about that assignment. Oh man, Davante Adams, I think,

1584
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: and you know our corners, well, we'll see how he's

1585
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: not like this big, huge guy but he's six foot one,

1586
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: and we'll see how our corners and how confident they are.

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01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: We talked to Trey Brown yesterday. Love that, such a

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: good interview. Yeah, and he's he's so confident and he's

1589
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: so mature, So you know, watching him and I think

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01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: DJ reads the same type of guy. They're both the

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01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: best cover guys. So I'll be I'll be curious to

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01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: see those guys going up against DeVante Adams Jake player

1593
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: to watch. Call me captain obvious here, but it is

1594
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: definitely Russell Wilson coming back from that finger injury, first

1595
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: time back, going to lambeau Field against Aaron Rodgers. How

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01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: does he look? How does this offense. Look to me,

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01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: he is definitely the player to watch, all right, my

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01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: player to watch. I was gonna be really boring, but

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01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: I was gonna go with one of the pass rushers.

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01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: So either Carlos Dunlap or Daryl Taylor. I just think

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna be I thought that was going to be

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: the key to getting Aaron Rodgers down. All right, Uh,

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01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,959
Speaker 1: Seahawks take it on the Packers this weekend, November fourteenth

1604
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday. That'll do it for us, for Dave Wyman,

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01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: for Jakeebs, for Curtis Rogers. I'm Stacy Ross. This has

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Speaker 1: been the huddle