WEBVTT - The Horned Helm, Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're back for part two of talking about helmets. Last time,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a lot of fun. We we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>caterpillars piling up their old exoskeleton heads on top of

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<v Speaker 1>their current heads. We talked about helmets from the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Greek world. We talked about horned helmets and where those

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<v Speaker 1>motifs came from, the association with vikings, and and we

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<v Speaker 1>had so much more. And we're back today. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is going to be more of a um a

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<v Speaker 1>selection of various helmets and helmet traditions, uh from different

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the world. Um, we are going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into samurai armor a bit more. We toil. We very

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<v Speaker 1>briefly mentioned it in the first episode, and I've figured

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<v Speaker 1>it was deserving of a deeper dive. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, we're going to touch on just a

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<v Speaker 1>really bizarre helmet from European tradition. Yeah, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>that we were sort of planning on talking about last time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess we ran out of time. But if

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're talking about horned helmets and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just looking around for historical examples worth mentioning, you are

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<v Speaker 1>bound to come across one that is I would say

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<v Speaker 1>literally unbelievable, and I mean literally unbelievable in the correct

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<v Speaker 1>use of the word literally, because when you see it,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be inclined to think, there is no way

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually an early sixteenth century artifacts this is

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<v Speaker 1>a prop from a Terry Gilliam movie. Oh. Absolutely had

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same response when I first came across because

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you start researching helmets, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>start looking on using image searches to find examples, you

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<v Speaker 1>find a lot of of creative energy that has gone

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<v Speaker 1>into the creation of fictional helmets and sort of artistic

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<v Speaker 1>um twists on fictional helmets and sci fi helmets. Everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to do a fair amount of of digging

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<v Speaker 1>around to make sure that what you're looking at is

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<v Speaker 1>something from the real world. And when I looked at this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just this is just too weird. I figured

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<v Speaker 1>this is some bizarre art experiment here. There's no way

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<v Speaker 1>that this was an actual helm from European history. Well

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<v Speaker 1>it is, I think a bizarre art experiment. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, five years old. Uh so, No, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>from Terry Illium movie. It's not from the set of Legend.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a helmet that is known as the horned

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<v Speaker 1>helmet of the English King Henry the Eighth. It is

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<v Speaker 1>astonishingly bizarre. It is definitely worth actually looking up an

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<v Speaker 1>image of if you have a chance, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to describe it if you're not in a place

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<v Speaker 1>where you can look it up right now. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can read about this artifact and see close up photos

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<v Speaker 1>at the website for the British Royal Armories Collection and leads.

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<v Speaker 1>This helmet was commissioned as part of an armor set

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<v Speaker 1>in fifteen eleven by then Holy Roman Emperor maximil In

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<v Speaker 1>the First and it was given as a gift to

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<v Speaker 1>King Henry. So Henry the eighth when he's a young man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's given this, this helmet and this suit of armor

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<v Speaker 1>as a gift. But I'm wondering what a gift like

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<v Speaker 1>this was supposed to signify, given its visual features. So

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, it's a helmet that's made of steel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very close fitting, it's got features and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of other metals. It's got a pair of corkscrew rams

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<v Speaker 1>horns made of sheet iron. And if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>picture this, they're not the tightly curled like Princess Leiah

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<v Speaker 1>rams horns. They're not the sticky bun rams horns. They're

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<v Speaker 1>like the curling out like a corkscrew that you would

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<v Speaker 1>use to open a bottle of wine. Then on the

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<v Speaker 1>face it has spectacles like glasses. Spectacles made of copper alloy,

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<v Speaker 1>so they shine in a kind of different color than

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the face, and the spectacles may once

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<v Speaker 1>have been gilded. So this is a helmet that fully

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<v Speaker 1>encloses the head with front facing flats that hinge open

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<v Speaker 1>like a flower spreading its petals in the sunlight, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or like the face of the demag organ in uh

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<v Speaker 1>in stranger things. You know, it's got the petals that

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<v Speaker 1>open up. So it's got two side plates that hinge

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<v Speaker 1>out to the right and the left. So imagine these

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<v Speaker 1>would fold over sort of the the the jaw area.

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<v Speaker 1>The side burns and they flap out, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>face plate hinges up over the forehead. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>can open the flaps up like this and put the

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<v Speaker 1>helmet on by sliding it over the back of your

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<v Speaker 1>head and then you close the plates around the sides

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<v Speaker 1>in front of your head, which I have to admit it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of hard for me to picture just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at an image of the helmet. I think most of

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<v Speaker 1>the images, if not all, the images you run across,

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<v Speaker 1>are of the closed helmet, as if it's being worn

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<v Speaker 1>and it's sealed up. Yeah. Actually, though, you can look

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<v Speaker 1>it up on the Royal Armory's website. They've got a

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<v Speaker 1>video with a curator at the museum. They're unfolding the

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<v Speaker 1>flaps and showing you how it works, So you can

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<v Speaker 1>check that out on their website if you're interested. But so,

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the front plate on this helmet, the

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<v Speaker 1>face plate is carved with a level of intricacy that's

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<v Speaker 1>almost kind of awkward, you know how when somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>makes a parody of something but they put way too

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<v Speaker 1>much effort into it. If you look close at this

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<v Speaker 1>face plate, you will see these delicate wrinkles etched in

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<v Speaker 1>around the eyes, and stubble all around the mouth and lips,

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<v Speaker 1>and a texture that looks almost like pours across the

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<v Speaker 1>cheeks and the nose. The expression on the face is

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to describe. It's something I guess the way

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<v Speaker 1>I could come closest just to say it is a

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<v Speaker 1>demonic rictus. Uh. It suggests I must scream, but my

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<v Speaker 1>lips are stapled together, loosely stapled together, but stapled together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's yeah, it is really hard to describe um. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the stubble is very interesting, especially in light

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<v Speaker 1>of mustaches on helms that we mentioned in the last

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<v Speaker 1>episode and and well up again in this episode later. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this this expression, it's it is hard to

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<v Speaker 1>categorize because it it is intimidating. There's this there is

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of that when I look at this helmet,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot imagine thinking that anyone who would wear this

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<v Speaker 1>um has good intentions. Like there's a there's a vileness

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<v Speaker 1>to it, you know. There there's the mouth is making

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<v Speaker 1>you get the impression it's making a sound kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know, it's a there's a goblin esque

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<v Speaker 1>aspect to it. I will say that the the the

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<v Speaker 1>expression on the mouth of this face reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>some of the faces that Willem Dafoe polls in some

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<v Speaker 1>of his various villainous roles. You know, this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>intense um grim lenoid kind of a smile, but but

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a happy smile or not a happiness that

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<v Speaker 1>is shared by other people in the room. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like part Memlin or Goblin, part mad scientist, and

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<v Speaker 1>part Willem Dafoe in Streets of Fire. But so apparently

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<v Speaker 1>after the English Civil War, so this would be about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred years after Henry the Eighth to death. After

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<v Speaker 1>the English Civil War, most of the rest of Henry's

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<v Speaker 1>armor was discarded. It was you know, used for scrap metal.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, this helmet, this this grotesque, bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>horned helmet was preserved. And it's quite possibly just because

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<v Speaker 1>it looked so weird. You know, you can almost kind

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<v Speaker 1>of imagine Oliver Cromwell finding this and thinking like, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an accurate representation of the monarchy. But another

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<v Speaker 1>thing is something that we talked about in the last episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the dual use of helmets. Helmets that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might wonder like, would this actually be very useful

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<v Speaker 1>in battle or you know, if it was actually designed

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the head in battle, wouldn't it wouldn't it

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of different than it is. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>another one of those helmets where it's just hard to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine it being very practical for a fighting scenario. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got the curling horns which just scream, you know, grab me,

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<v Speaker 1>knock me, use me as a lever. Uh and uh. This,

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<v Speaker 1>this intuition that we get from looking at this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact historically correct, because this wasn't fighting armor.

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<v Speaker 1>This was party armor. Um. I actually found a similar looking,

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<v Speaker 1>though less elaborate helmet in the online collection of the

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<v Speaker 1>Swedish Royal Armory Museum because I was trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>other examples of helmets kind of like this that we're

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<v Speaker 1>used as party armor, ceremonial armor instead of armor for battle.

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<v Speaker 1>And there so there's this helmet in the Swedish Royal

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<v Speaker 1>Armories collection that belonged to the Swedish King Gustav Vasa,

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<v Speaker 1>who lived from four to fifteen sixty. And this helmet

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<v Speaker 1>has everything. It's got a dorsal fin, it's got a

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<v Speaker 1>carved mustache, it's got splayed eye holes, it's got a

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<v Speaker 1>grimace straight from hell. It does not have horns or spectacles, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is it is a beauty I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to the idea of of dress armor

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<v Speaker 1>versus battle armor for a king because I know some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're not, you know, super familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the history of British royalty and battle, you might think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why would Henry have any armor but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>fancy armor for non combat events? Would a would a

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<v Speaker 1>king have battle armor? So Henry lived through fifteen forty seven. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's worth to put that in context of King

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<v Speaker 1>Richard the Third uh died of his wounds on August

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, and he was the last English king to

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<v Speaker 1>die in battle. Um. So the idea of a king

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<v Speaker 1>having battle armor not entirely out of the question for

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<v Speaker 1>that time period. No, not at all. And uh and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Richard the Third is not even thought of

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<v Speaker 1>as an especially like you know, he's not thought of

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<v Speaker 1>as a warrior king usually. But no, he rode straight

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<v Speaker 1>into battle. He was trying to kill Henry Tutor, who

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<v Speaker 1>was attacking him to usurp the throne, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>like literally in there in the fight himself. But just

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<v Speaker 1>to reference what the Swedish Royal Armories Museum says about

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<v Speaker 1>the helmets with face plates like this, you know. They

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<v Speaker 1>say that around the sixteenth century it was popular for

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy elites like kings and other nobility in Europe to

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<v Speaker 1>wear armor, including close helmets, to wear these things too celebrations, parades,

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<v Speaker 1>big parties, and in the early sixteenth century, they say

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<v Speaker 1>that it was common to where these with quote grotesque

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<v Speaker 1>visors in the form of animal or human faces like

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<v Speaker 1>this one, the one we were talking about a minute ago,

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<v Speaker 1>to enhance the festive atmosphere and heighten the sense of theatricality.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess it's possible to some extent that the

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<v Speaker 1>weirdness of these face plate grotesques, like King Henry's horned

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<v Speaker 1>helm or King Gustav's weird looking face mat s here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just that something is being lost in translation

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<v Speaker 1>across time, language, and culture. It's possible that some of

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<v Speaker 1>them were supposed to look weird. They were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>look funny. Yeah, it's like a masked ball, only a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more clinky. But when you really look into the

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<v Speaker 1>significance of the visual features, Henry the Eighth's horn helmet

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<v Speaker 1>gets even weirder. So I just want to mention a

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<v Speaker 1>couple more facts that are brought up by the Royal

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<v Speaker 1>Armories collection. One is that I mentioned the face plate

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<v Speaker 1>has spectacles, right, These cover the eyeholes, so their eye

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<v Speaker 1>holes in the face plate, and then these spectacles descend

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<v Speaker 1>down from a hinge at the bridge of the nose,

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<v Speaker 1>And that might look kind of weird to us today,

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<v Speaker 1>but this actually was a common format for spectacles at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. They would kind of have a rivet in

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<v Speaker 1>between these two separate arms that each went to one lens,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would fold down over the bridge of the nose,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can kind of clip it on your nose,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the mask. There's no indication that these spectacles

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<v Speaker 1>ever held lenses, so it appears they were decorative rather

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<v Speaker 1>than functional. But why would you have decorative spectacles without lenses,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the the the immediate answer that would come

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<v Speaker 1>to mind as well, if you if you had spectacles

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot, or you use them and they were

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<v Speaker 1>part of your identity, then you might want them replicated.

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<v Speaker 1>In the same way that people who have, like for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>warned glass eyeglasses for a long time and then have

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<v Speaker 1>lasic surgery might still keep some glasses with just plain

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<v Speaker 1>glass as lenses just because that's part of their look.

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<v Speaker 1>That's possible. I don't think spectacles were really considered part

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<v Speaker 1>of Henry's look, especially when he was young. Uh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing they point out that that might be the

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<v Speaker 1>answer here. Apparently spectacles were an accessory that in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth century often appeared in renderings of the stock character

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<v Speaker 1>from from culture at the time known as the food owl.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess something kind of like the Shakespearean fool, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like touchstone and as you like it? Okay, so well.

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<v Speaker 1>On one hand, this is of course disappointing because it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds a bit like it's it's essentially like a nerd joke, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like making making fun of the very important individuals

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<v Speaker 1>at the time who at the time where we're using

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<v Speaker 1>them to get a lot of work done for the crown,

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<v Speaker 1>And here you're just gonna turn it around and use

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<v Speaker 1>it as a goofy trope because glasses look funny. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible that this is just a costume of the fool,

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense that a lot of times these fest

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<v Speaker 1>there would be festivals in which the fool is made king. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of perhaps a play on that. That's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another thing in that column. If Henry's helmet was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to make him look like a fool. That would

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<v Speaker 1>also possibly explain the horns. Now, we mentioned in the

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<v Speaker 1>last episode that horns had appeared on European decorative helmets

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<v Speaker 1>and times gone by, but by the sixteenth century a

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<v Speaker 1>human depicted with horns had negative kind of stations, often

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<v Speaker 1>either demonic connotations or connotations specifically of cuckoldry. And this

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<v Speaker 1>gets really interesting for a for a brief diversion that

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<v Speaker 1>really does come back to the helmet. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading an article by a scholar named Una mckilvina, who

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<v Speaker 1>is a historian at the University of Melbourne, and she

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<v Speaker 1>argues that there was something of a popular obsession in

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<v Speaker 1>the early modern period with cuckoldry, this bizarre paranoia pulsing

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<v Speaker 1>through European culture during the Renaissance about wives cheating on

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<v Speaker 1>their husbands. And it shouldn't come as any surprise given

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<v Speaker 1>the sexual politics of the time, right, Yeah, So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of paternalism and misogyny rolled up into this.

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<v Speaker 1>There was this idea that women were more lustful than

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<v Speaker 1>men and less rational, less in control of their actions,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they could lose control of their behavior and

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<v Speaker 1>commit scandalous acts of infidelity, and as a res old,

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<v Speaker 1>a married man, by a virtue of being married to

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, was constantly at risk of being humiliated by

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<v Speaker 1>her cheating on him. Uh and this state of humiliation

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<v Speaker 1>was expressed through the imagery of invisible horns on the head.

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<v Speaker 1>This imagery shows up in Shakespeare in several different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, in Much Ado about Nothing, there's a character

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<v Speaker 1>named Benedict who's being cynical about marriage, and Benedict says, basically, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever get married, I might as well quote

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<v Speaker 1>pluck off the bulls horns and set them in my forehead.

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<v Speaker 1>The ideas that he's like, what's the point. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you get married, a woman will cheat on you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'll have these horns. Now, it's not known

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where this link between horn imagery and sexual humiliation

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<v Speaker 1>comes from, but there are several theories. She mentions a few.

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<v Speaker 1>Some have to do with various types of castrated domestic animals,

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<v Speaker 1>such as the ox, which has horns, of course, or

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<v Speaker 1>the capon, which is a castrated male chicken. It was

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<v Speaker 1>once common, apparently to ingraft the spurs from the legs

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<v Speaker 1>of a capon into its comb so that it could

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<v Speaker 1>be told apart from the other roosters. And maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>had something to do with it. But we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>for sure where this imagery comes from. But here we

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<v Speaker 1>tie it back in with the spectacles because apparently during

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<v Speaker 1>the early modern period there were also popular associations between

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<v Speaker 1>cuckoldry imagery and the stock character of the fool. So

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the fool might have been depicted with spectacles. Other

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<v Speaker 1>times the fool might have been depicted with horns. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so so it all again could be part of just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the the trope cartoon character of the day

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<v Speaker 1>for the fool possibly. So, I mean, it just makes

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<v Speaker 1>me wonder, like, Maximilian, what are you trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>with this gift? Man? Yeah, it's it sounds like either

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<v Speaker 1>just h it really depends on to what extent you

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<v Speaker 1>get Henry's sense of humor, because this is this would

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of a dangerous gift to give a key

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<v Speaker 1>unless you knew he was really into this, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to be clear that I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to suggest that the Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian the First

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<v Speaker 1>was insinuating anything about Henry's marriage to Catherine of Aragon

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<v Speaker 1>at the time or anything like that. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that this elaborate gift helmet includes elements that exist

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<v Speaker 1>in this nexus of association with the character of the fool.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it must suggest either I don't know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>that he thinks maybe Henry is going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good sense of humor and will dress up in Fool's

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<v Speaker 1>armor for ceremonial occasions. I don't know. There is also

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<v Speaker 1>it really stinks of luxury to to have a helmet

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<v Speaker 1>like this, and helmets, says we've discussed in the previous episode.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these are they're well crafted, um implements of

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<v Speaker 1>of battle like these are expensive items and to have

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<v Speaker 1>one that, for many reasons is is nonfunctional and could

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<v Speaker 1>even be something that would never be worn because it's

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<v Speaker 1>something of a but you know, perhaps like a white

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<v Speaker 1>elephant gift, you know. So maybe that that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the the appeal of this helmet as well. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if it was kind of the horsehead mask of the

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<v Speaker 1>early undreds, oh man. So yeah, if they if they

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<v Speaker 1>could do selfies like this would be a helmet you'd

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<v Speaker 1>wear for your selfie. Now, speaking of Goofy helmets from

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<v Speaker 1>the medieval period. Specifically um one that I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of us have seen many times and it's always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of puzzles you on some reason is the hound

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<v Speaker 1>skull helmet, which comes from the German uns google or

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<v Speaker 1>or a hound's hood or sometimes translated as pig faced helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not quite a horn, but this helmet has

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<v Speaker 1>something that looks like a snout on the front of it, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the snout of say a indeed, a

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<v Speaker 1>hound or a pig. It has a very be steel

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<v Speaker 1>look to it. Uh and it even so it has

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<v Speaker 1>a very transformative nature to it. You see these nights

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh in depictions of nights dressed in this armor,

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<v Speaker 1>and they look kind of like Eastman, right. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a common theme that we talked about in the

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<v Speaker 1>last episode, the zoom morphic mask or the theory anthropic mask,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that suggests transformation into an animal or having

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of animal characteristics, right. And and so this

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<v Speaker 1>style of armor also looks very goofy. It gets it

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<v Speaker 1>has kind of a spy versus spy feel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with like the pointed nose, very cartoony. So it raises

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<v Speaker 1>the question why do we see this design? Indeed, why

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<v Speaker 1>was this an extremely popular um form of the design?

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<v Speaker 1>This is not something where you just saw a few

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<v Speaker 1>examples of you know, relegated to the the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fancy affairs of a king. No, this was this

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<v Speaker 1>was a legit battle armor, and it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty widespread um uh throughout medieval Europe. Um. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me guess it was a beak for pecking the enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>It does kind of look like it looks kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, offensive in that regard, but it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>it did have two key purposes. So, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>breathing is always uh an issue in a helmet like this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you put some sort of big metal contraption

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<v Speaker 1>over your head, Well, you still need to see out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and you still need to breathe. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you just have a like a flat face mask in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you, there are only so many holes, so

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<v Speaker 1>many um events you can put in that thing to

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<v Speaker 1>allow you to breathe. But if it is elongated like this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then that allows for even more breathing holes. So it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on what example you pull up. Sometimes you pull

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<v Speaker 1>put you find an example of of this helmet and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't look like they're really that many they're not

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<v Speaker 1>really taking advantage of this feature, but others have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of holes in the miss Essentially it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a whiffleball. But perhaps the more important aspect of this

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<v Speaker 1>design was that its shape would deflect blows to the face.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your face is shaped like a cone, it

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be harder for the enemy to land

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<v Speaker 1>a spear or a sword in such a way that

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to, you know, just through and cut your

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<v Speaker 1>face in half. Yeah, I see that. It's gotta it's

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<v Speaker 1>got a natural perrying formation. Yeah, so it and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say it does also look kind of creepy

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<v Speaker 1>into humanizing and while also being kind of goofy uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. You also see lower slits in some of

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<v Speaker 1>these helmets, so they'll be like the upper is slip

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<v Speaker 1>like clearly for for for viewing, and then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lower slit that kind of looks like a mouth. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading about this in History of Armor eleven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred through seventeen hundred by PAULA. F. Walker, and the

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<v Speaker 1>author points out that most of these lower slits were

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<v Speaker 1>probably intended to allow the night to look down, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes us again, think of the the movement limitations and

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<v Speaker 1>the vision limitations in a helmet like this, How are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to see what's going on below, you say,

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<v Speaker 1>in your lap on the horse or whatnot. Um you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're you gonna do a full body movement to

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<v Speaker 1>look down or do you need essentially lower windows in

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<v Speaker 1>your head cage so that you can see what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on down there? I see. Now, we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>in the last episode. To the idea that and you're

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<v Speaker 1>designing armor and especially helmets, you're often that, uh, you're

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<v Speaker 1>working with trade offs, right, you know, you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>level of protection versus what kind of limitations come along

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<v Speaker 1>with that protection. Sometimes it might be limitations and mobility,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for types of armor on the body, but with

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<v Speaker 1>helmets and armor on the head, you're gonna have limitations

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<v Speaker 1>to the senses. That's right. So apparently this is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty successful design though. Um Walker writes that the style

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<v Speaker 1>here became universally used across Europe during the fourteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of those were lost. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>survive today, so if you do a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>image searching around online for a hound skulls or or huns,

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<v Speaker 1>google helmets, you'll find some really interesting examples. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we need to take a quick break, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back with more. Thank thank Alright, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the previous episode, we we mentioned the helm

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<v Speaker 1>of the samurai in passing, but there's just way too

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<v Speaker 1>much beauty and complexity in the Samurai tradition to leave

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<v Speaker 1>it at that. So I want I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>into it a bit more and a bit more detail

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<v Speaker 1>on what we're really looking at. When we behold examples

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<v Speaker 1>of Samurai armor, especially Samurai helms, which have to rank

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<v Speaker 1>among the most elegant military helmets ever created. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are so beautiful and looks so delicate I would

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid to touch them. Yes, yeah, that, and and

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>really they they're an art unto themselves. That also makes

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<v Speaker 1>searching up examples of it kind of difficult because people

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<v Speaker 1>continue to create riffs on Samurai armor and Samurai helmets,

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<v Speaker 1>and at times it it becomes a challenge to figure out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>am I looking at an actual military helmet? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this kind of showy military helmet. There's more

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<v Speaker 1>or less in line with the sort of fancy dress

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>helmets you know, a status symbol or am I looking

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<v Speaker 1>at something more recent, something that is a uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a purely modern artistic flourish that is playing on samurai identity. Um,

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 1>it's there's a there's a whole world of design here.

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<v Speaker 1>But to go back to sort of the beginning, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, what is a samurai? Just to refresh everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>This was the Japanese warrior class, which originally denoted the

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<v Speaker 1>bushy or aristocratic warriors, but eventually referred to all members

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<v Speaker 1>of the warrior class. They came to power in the

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth century and they held power till the Meiji restoration

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen sixty eight. They grew out of the Kamakura period,

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<v Speaker 1>which would have been eleven ninety two through UH thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three, taking the pre existing refinement of the Imperial

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<v Speaker 1>court and transforming it through a unique mix of military skill,

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>warrior ethos, and stoicism. So you have elements of Zen, Buddhism,

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Confucian thought, fill the old Pity and Shinto mixed together

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>into this uh, this code of the Bushido, which by

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth century also became just an ethical blueprint for

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese society itself. Now that's not to say that the

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>details of bushido were set in stone, as it did

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<v Speaker 1>drift depending on external influences such as the influence of

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the aforementioned uh um, you know, outside philosophies. So the

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>samurai were loyal to specific feudal lords to an all

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>consuming degree. The warriors honor purpose in life, we're all

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>bound to these individuals. So, of course there's this long

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>history of Samurai armor, and its story is one of

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>just design evolution, continual tinkering, artistic embellishments, and at times

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>archaic revival. Uh when you basically see all of these

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>and other armor armor traditions as well. But some of

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the earliest examples can be examined in terra coda figurines

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and grave goods from the Tumulus period from CE two

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty through five two, which shows us this uh uh,

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>the scaled armor that is we've just touched on this

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.679
<v Speaker 1>briefly in the previous episode that is predominantly Chinese in

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>its design, but with few purely Japanese flourishes those would

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>follow uh. This was this is according to Samurai and

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Illustrated History UH by Mitsuo Curi. Now, Curry points out

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that this armor style resembles Chinese tongue and song style

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>lamelar armors. And that whether the Japanese ruling class of

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the day, you know, originally migrated from Northern Asia, or

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>if native Japanese borrowed or imported foreign fighting techniques and technologies,

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>whichever it may be, it's still a controversial question. But

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the films would have been either peaked or beaked, according

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to Curry, now explain to me the difference there. So

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>basically there's gonna be either it's gonna gonna be kind

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>of almost like a cone at the top, you know,

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>or it's going to come out almost like the bill

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>of a cap. Okay that makes sense, Yeah, which you know,

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>not just I guess it would also protect your eyes

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>from the sun, but also it would help shield your

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>face from blows. But this is just essentially the beginning. Uh.

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Curry's book is an excellent read if you want an

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>in depth history of the various styles of Samurai armor.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 1>And indeed there are so many fascinating addition and add

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>ons that end up making up this armor. Again, there's

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>just continuous evolution. Uh. And and also given the modular

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>aspects of a lot of armor, traditions, but especially Samurai armor.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 1>It gets even more intricate because you'll see like the

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>addition of a of a of a net guard here,

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the refinement of cheek guards over here and then, and

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>also the evolution of just like the purely artistic aspects

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>of it. But as far as the helmet itself goes, uh,

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>here are a few interesting facts that that curry gets into.

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 1>So first of all, the top of the helmet bowl

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>features a small four centimeter hole called a hotchi manza

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 1>that apparently had a dual purpose. So first of all,

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it provided provided ventilation, helping you breathe a little better

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>in the in the helmet um, but it also allowed

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the warriors top knot hairstyle to be drawn up through it.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting here is that this helps steady the helmet.

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Uhar helmets had no inside liner and they were only

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>fixed to the head by the chin cord and the

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 1>top knot. I have never heard before of your actual

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 1>organic hair being used to secure a helmet in place,

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>but that is a brilliant idea. Yeah, as long as

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the hairstyle matches up with that, Because apparently during the

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>thirteenth and fourteenth centuries, hairstyles change toward a looser style,

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and there was growing concern as well that the holes

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>now only benefit of ventilation was overshadowed by the fact

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>that it provided a weak point for arrows when the

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>warrior charged head down at adversaries. So by the fifteenth

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>century it goes away as an actual whole, but you

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>still retain an exterior decorative flourish that it tests to

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>its previous existence. Uh, kind of a decorative groment um.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Because also it had other ideas. Other ideas were bound

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>up in it as well. There's this notion that the

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>whole allowed the ninety eight thousand gods of war to

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>enter into the warrior, and in fact, the fact that

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the name Hatchi Manza apparently comes from the name hat Chiman,

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>which was a patron god of war, a Shinto god

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>who embraced Buddhism. I was reading about this um, or

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>actually I was listening to Anthony Cummins, an author and

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>translator on Samurai arms, armor and the tactics of warfare,

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>who also host a series of informative videos on YouTube

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>about the topic. So by designing the helmet this way,

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the idea was that the gods of war could sort

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of enter into the warrior and inhabit them and give

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>them strength and battle or guide their actions. Yeah, or

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>at least that was sort of the the philosophical ideas

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that were attached to this whole, though it seems like

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it was mostly for the hair, and certainly when you

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>begome become concerned that that it's going to be a

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>hole through which arrows will enter the warrior. It seems

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>like everyone's was it was pretty much on board with

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the idea of sealing it up with something that's interesting.

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it makes you think about all these different

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>aspects of inventions that dwell for a long time in culture,

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>where they might have a rich and only had a

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.719
<v Speaker 1>functional purpose, but then over time is the functional purpose

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>goes away. I wonder if people are more inclined to

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>read religious or cultural significance into that that element of

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the invention. Yeah, I mean, it's one of the things

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>people do is we brood over our objects. We attached

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>an assign meaning to the things that we create and

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the details of it, and sometimes those those are the

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>things that live on well past the functionality of a

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>particular element of the design. It makes me think of

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>like church bells, for instance, that were once functional and

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>signaling times of day for for worship or just for

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>time keeping in a locality, and then over time just

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>came to mean more. It is just something that is

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>part of what a church is, even though it's not.

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's got a clock now. Yeah, shutters on houses another example.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, how often do you see shutters actually closed

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>on windows unless you're dealing with say like a beach

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>house or something. A lot of times you'll see examples

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of this where the shutters either are never used or

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>even be incapable of being used. It could be a

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>purely decorative flourish. Yeah, it's interesting. So the main bowl

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of the helmet or kabuto here was was the hatchie,

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and you have the plated neck guard with this was

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the shikorro, which is made of overlapping plates, and then

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you have a brim or a visor as well, which

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I kind of mentioned already. But then if you ever

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>look at a samurai helmet, you often see these wing

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>like or ear like backwards folding flaps, and these were

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>these were known as the fuka gaishi, and these were

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the front parts of the neck guard. But they became

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>folded back like this to enhance visibility and to prevent

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>getting in the way of drawing a bow. So another

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>example of the evolution of the helmet being to a

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>certain extent aesthetic but also purely functional. And then you

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>have the sunamoto and this is the This is in

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the front. It's a mounting point on the front of

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the helmet and where you might have horns or antlers

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>or a flower motif or something like that. That added. Now,

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>something else that you see with a lot of these

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>helmets is that they don't just cover the top and

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>sides of the head, but they, like a lot of

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the other helmets we've been talking about today, have a

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>face mask. Yeah. And this is often one of the

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 1>most you know, arresting aspects of the samurai helmet and

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>one that clearly resonates, uh in our fiction around the world.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at, say, the Darth Vader's helmet,

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and there is a strong samurai element in its design.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh was it? Do you know if it was directly

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>inspired by samurai helmets? Uh? Well, I was. I looked

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>this up the other day and it seems like that

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>has been cited as one of the influences, though there

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>are a couple others, like there's some old sci fi

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>cereal with a helmeted bad guy that may have played

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a role. Uh you know. Some others have pointed to

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Dr Doom as another likely influenced, but it seems like

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the samurai aesthetic was part of the influence for sure.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I do think George Lucas was was a fan of

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Japanese cinema, wasn't he Like, Oh yeah, definitely, He's definitely

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>cited Curasawa is an influence for sure. So so yeah,

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I think when you see Darth Vader, you're you're definitely

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>seeing some samurai influence there. Now on the samurai helmets,

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of course, they these these masks often take on the

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>likeness of a human face, though often with very aggressive flourishes. Also,

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you'll frequently find mustaches that have been added a lot

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>of times. They're kind of like you know, brush base.

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>They're they're they're were made with horse hair or something,

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>so there they actually have a brustlely aspect to them.

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's so much better than the metal mustache

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of Sutton Who and all these others. Yeah. Now, one

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>one thing to note about the face mask of the

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>samurai is there are actually several different varieties. So there's

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the the hapuri, which Cury writes date back to the

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Hayon period of seven to eleven eighty five, and they

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>covered the foreheads and the cheeks and a kind of

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>upside down you shape. You don't see that as much

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>when you just get you know, look for sort of

0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>stereotypical uh samurai armor. Far more prevalent in just standard

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>samurai iconography is the partial face mask or menpo, which

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>emerged in the fourteenth or fifteen centuries to provide protective

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>coverage for the lower face that was apparently lost by

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>some of the design trends that were affecting other aspects

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of the helmet. So this would have covered like basically

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>from the eyes uh down to the chin, and sometimes

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a scaled net guard hanging below this. Another variety

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>was the the hen bow, which covered the nose to

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>chin area as well, but not the cheeks. Now, you

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>also see examples of the sulman, which covered the entire face,

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and some of the examples of this are very uh

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>beautiful as well, But apparently this was not a popular

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>choice as it was said to be uncomfortable to wear. Uh,

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>So I guess, you know, just more constricting of your

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>face and perhaps limiting your your your senses a bit. Now,

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the overall look and feel of the helmet was was

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 1>sometimes crafted to represent something about the warrior's character, such

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>as through an animal motif, and samurai tended to like

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to stand out from the crowd. Um. In the book Samurai,

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>author Anthony J. Bryant points out that for early samurai,

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>crests were a privilege of rank. Uh. These date mono

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>were mounted on the front, sometimes on the sides, taking

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the form of dragonflies, butterflies, crescent moons, disks, horns, various emblems, etcetera. Uh.

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>And they were mostly made of wood or paper mache,

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>even that had been painted and affixed to the helmets,

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>which I think is interesting because you're getting into this

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>area where okay, there's the purely functional aspects of the

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>helmet that are going to be made of more durable material.

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.800
<v Speaker 1>But indeed, if you're gonna have some sort of uh,

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, flourish affixed to the top of your helmet,

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it makes more sense really that you would have it

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>constructed of paper mache or wood or something and not

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.240
<v Speaker 1>be a physical part of the helmet that would again,

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, send your your helmet flying or twist your

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>neck around if it were to catch a stray sword blow.

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, that's extremely smart. Actually, paper mache adornments could

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 1>be They can still be seen, they can convey the

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>same symbolism, but they can't become a lever. Yeah, just

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>rip right off. Yeah, So it seems like that that

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>would be a key advantage here now in terms of

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 1>this sort of tug of war between aesthetics and uh

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and and just utilitarian purpose. Uh, you certainly see things

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>perhaps going more in the direction of of just aesthetics.

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>When you consider the kawari kabuto or the changed helmets

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>or in usual helmets, and these are the more elaborate

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>examples of samurai helmets you'll you'll come across, and some

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of the most beautiful, uh they were. They were expensive,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>so only the wealthy were able to have them unless

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>they claimed them on the battlefield from a falling samurai.

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But these would have been highly decorative helmets with unique

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>shapes or even the overall likenesses of an animal. So

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>instead of there being just this you know, this wooden

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.800
<v Speaker 1>paper mission a flourish added to the front of the helmet,

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 1>like the helmet itself would be transformed like a parade

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:09.240
<v Speaker 1>float into uh an animal or with any enormous animal

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>motif affixed to the top of it. So like the

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>entire thing is the body of a of a fish

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>or some kind of yokai or something. Yeah, there's a

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>pretty great fish based one that I've seen images of,

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and there's also a really beautiful one from the seventeenth

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>century that apparently is in the Mets collection. I don't

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>think it's currently on display or hasn't been recently, but uh,

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful because it looks like this black cresting wave. Uh,

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just elegant to behold and also kind of

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>shiny black. It looks a lot like like the material

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>of Darth Vader's helmet. Yes it does. Yeah, this one's

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>very Darth vadery and it's almost it's almost got like

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>a scorpion's tail aspect curling up at the top. Yeah.

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>So there's a there's tons more we could talk about

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>with some Samurai helmets and Samurai armor. We've only really

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>touched the you know, the tip of the iceberg here

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>for an example of just how many very designs you

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>come across. I was I was reading Samurai Armor though

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>one Tabby Art Museum Samurai Armor Collection Volume one by

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Absalon and David Thatcher, and they the authors here,

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:19.280
<v Speaker 1>point out that the kawari kabudah encompasses so many different

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>variations that like, for instance, there's this one that they

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>pull out. It's a design from the mid late Edo

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>period that has this horned helmet, horned samurai helmet. But

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.439
<v Speaker 1>then over it is this hood. So this is hood

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>in place, and then the horns are sticking out through

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the fabric of the hood. So that's just another example

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>of the rich variety you'll find with these helms. Joke,

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and you pull up an image of this side. I'm

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>looking at it right now. This is cult movie material.

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>This is so good. So the hood, yes, the hood

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>has holes. The horns come through the holes. It's like

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>little sleeves for your horns. Uh. So creepy looking. And

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>then the face mask it has not just a bristly mustache,

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 1>but a whole briskly beard. Uh. And this is great

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 1>because like if you if you were to try to

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>kiss somebody wearing this mask, you would feel the bristles,

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>but legitimately creepy and beautiful to sign. Yeah, this is awesome. Alright, Well,

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>on that note, we're gonna take one more break. When

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 1>we come back, we're gonna discuss just a few more

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>examples of philut design from around the world and throughout history.

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank thank thank all Right, we're back now, Robert, I

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 1>know you wanted to mention a bit about pre Columbian

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>cultures in meso America and South America. Yeah. I mean,

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>we've discussed um the Inca civilization on the show before,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>as well as aspects of Aztec civilization, and especially when

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the Inca, we talked about their amazing

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>fiber based technologies. Um I believe we talked a lot

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 1>about their use of knots, as well as the use

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>of things like elaborate rope bridges. But it also played

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>into how they can truct did their body armor and

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>their helmets. So the Inca depended on quilted and padded

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>cotton tunics for body armor, with wooden plates added in places,

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>especially the back, I understand, and likewise their helmets were

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>mostly wooden. Apparently, generals or other prestigious individuals might have

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>theirs decorated with a little bit of copper as well.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Now you might wonder like, wait a minute, why would

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>wool be all that useful for armor, But I mean

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>think about helmets and pads of today that say a

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>football player would wear, or that you might wear if

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you're riding a bicycle. These often involve a lot of

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of soft padding elements which are quite useful if

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you suddenly get hit on the head or hit somewhere

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>in the body. As that you know, they might not

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>stop a sword from stabbing you, but they can't slow

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the acceleration or deceleration of impacts, which makes a big

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>difference in in protecting your body from injury. Right, so,

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>even if you are going to have some sort of

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 1>robust plating on your body, you also want some sort

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:00.399
<v Speaker 1>of uh, some some sort of material there to help

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>absorb the blow as well, because otherwise, yeah, that the

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>sword might not break the skin, but the impact of

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the sword might break several bones. So, uh, that's just

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the inca in brief. But also I was looking around

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>at the the Aztec. According to Handbook to Life in

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the Aztec World by Manuel uh Aguilar Marino, the Aztecs

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>also utilize similar cotton tunic body armor, and war leaders

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>would wear feathered tunics over these. So as far as

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>their helmets go, the helmets varied. Some were made from

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>wood and bone and decorated with feathers. Others were far

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>more animalistic, made in the likeness of a wild animal

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>of divine significance and associated with different warrior groups such

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>as wolves, coyotes, jaguars, and pumas and the And in

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>these mass the warrior would gaze out of the animal's

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>open mouth, and these were generally supported over a frame

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of wood or quilted cotton. Yeah, and it's worth looking

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>up examples of these. A couple of the ones that

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>come to my mind are the jaguar warriors and the

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 1>eagle warriors. The jaguars and the eagles were like different

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>classes of military combatants in the in the ancient Aztec

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>or Mexico culture. Yeah, with a lot of sacred associations

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>with these animals. So it wasn't just like, hey, wouldn't

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>it be cool if I looked like a jaguar, wouldn't

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I be intimidating like it? It went deeper to that

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and was more entrenched in a in in a sacred

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>battle um ethos. But I wanted to to also talk

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>about another far flung example of helmet technology, and that

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:36.320
<v Speaker 1>is the helmet that you would find um uh used

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>by the Hawaiian people. Interesting. Yeah, so, you know, I

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>do want to stress there's so many different variations in

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>warrior helms throughout human history, and there's there's a lot

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 1>of sameness to a certain degree. You see fabric, fiber, leather,

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and hide helms across all cultures. Bone and wood are

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:57.240
<v Speaker 1>frequently taken up as our metals, as metallurgical advancements and

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:01.320
<v Speaker 1>um you know, and and also the local environment allow

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>but but these are a couple of reasons why it's

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>really neat to look at Polynesian technology, and specifically Hawaiian helmets.

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>So I would love to come back at some point

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and do a proper look at Polynesian technology, because the

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>various cultures at this far flung tip of human expansion

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>are and we're really amazing and advanced in ways utterly

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the fitting of their challenges. So here's one of the

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>interesting things about about Hawaiian warriors. So, given the complete

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>absence of iron on the volcanic islands, the ancient warriors

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of Hawaii were instead masters of wooden spears, slings, wooden forks,

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and daggers. Sometimes they had these two pronged eye daggers

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>as well as these unique shark tooth weapons for close

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>quarters combat. They kind of looked like in some cases

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 1>they look kind of like paddles or or kind of

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 1>like wooden daggers, but they're lined around the edges with

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the saw blades made of sharks teeth. Uh So they

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>if you getting close enough, you know, you can essentially

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, gut your enemy or or you know, slice

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 1>a vital part of their anatomy. They also had strangling

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>chords that sometimes featured shark teeth as well, and all

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 1>of this would would have been additionally incorporated into specialized

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 1>tactics and specialized martial arts as far as protection goes.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>According to Warrior Arts and Weapons of Ancient Hawaii by

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Sid Campbell, the warrior chieftains of old would wear a

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>brightly colored cape into battle, often slung on one arm

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to deflect or snag spears. He writes, uh quote, so

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>these decorative capes looked more ceremonial than martial to foreigners

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>unaccustomed to the Kia's battle accouterments. They proved very effective

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>in instances of close range combat, which were frequent where

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.879
<v Speaker 1>clubs and sharp toothed daggers were commonplace. The cape used

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>as a shield could also be a protective barrier to enshroud, deflect, perry,

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>or confine the enemy's weapon. The This reminds me of

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the earliest examples of body armor that we

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>talked about it in the last episode which depicted on

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 1>the Royal Standard of Or. I think it was where

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>these ancient Mesopotamian warriors are shown wearing heavy leather capes

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>as armor and battle. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think in

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the last episode two we we had a brief tangent

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>where we talked about the capes worn by Darth Vader

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and Count Dooku and General Grievous in the Star Wars films. Uh.

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>And then so certainly there's historical presidents for the use

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.880
<v Speaker 1>of capes as armor in close combat and in the

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars universe. On top of that, they have this

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>idea that you have these garments made out of armor

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>weave which would be capable of dissipating blaster bolts or

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>at really and at least providing limited resistance to lightsabers.

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>And I do want to stress again that there there

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>would have been an entire martial arts at play here

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:54.720
<v Speaker 1>in the use of these various weapons and this protective cape.

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Now they also had helmets that would they would use,

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and there at least two example polls of of it.

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:04.720
<v Speaker 1>So first of all, there's this gourd mask helmet design

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:11.280
<v Speaker 1>that it was traditionally known as macacay or makini I believe,

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.919
<v Speaker 1>and they're also they've also been commonly referred to as

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>uh okay okay I believe. It's a it's actually a

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>popular cultural motif today. So if you if you do

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>some image searches for this or um you know, or

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>or do any amount of driving around the Hawaiian islands,

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>you will you will see examples of this where it

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>is like to describe it, it's kind of like a

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:37.839
<v Speaker 1>gorge shape with kind of a big hourglass shape cut

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>into the front, allowing uh one to to to look

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>out and also exposing cheeps and nose region. There's often

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of a feather based um um kind of a

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>mohawk or crest on the back of it. And then

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you'll also have some material hanging down from the edges

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>covering the neck. Yeah, a lot of the examples I've

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.320
<v Speaker 1>seen involved not a single space in the front of

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the face, but with two whole separate eye holes. So

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could do it multiple ways, but the

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the ones I've seen, they end up

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>making you look kind of like Jack Skellington. Yeah, there

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>is kind of. I think that's one of the reasons

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that it's such an interesting image and one that uh

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that that that people keep coming back to. I mean,

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:22.479
<v Speaker 1>aside from it's it's it's cultural relevance, it also has

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>this kind of skull like quality. It feels, you know,

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're coming at it from a sci fi direction,

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 1>it almost feels like a space helmet. And also being

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>gourd based. It it's a little it's a little different.

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>It it um you know, it's it's uh, it's a

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>different tradition, a different way of of covering the head

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 1>and protecting the head. And apparently this would have been

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 1>a design that the very first European explorers to arrive

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.760
<v Speaker 1>in a y you would have observed various warriors wearing.

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Now there's also another variety of helmet and these would

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 1>have been more um artistic and more just purely for

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>for show, But there would have been a crested helmet

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>known as majol, and these would have been um uh

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>made of aerial vine roots that were woven into kind

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of a basketry frame, so kind of a wicker helmet

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 1>that was then decorated with feathers. Again with this kind

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:18.439
<v Speaker 1>of crested appearance to them, that reminds I think we

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>we easily remind a uh, you know, a Westerner of

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>various Greek helmets or some of the uh, the the

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 1>head gear that is associated with Tibetan monks. Yeah, it

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>certainly looks very elaborate and regal. I mean, you see

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody wearing this, and it does suggest that they are

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>in charge. But there's something also about the images I've

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 1>seen of this type of helmet. The texture on the outside.

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if that's original. It might be a

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>sign of of where weathering over time. It looks kind

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of like coral. I know it's not made of coral,

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's got that fuzzy pink kind of texture on

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the outside. Yeah. Well, like the the use of feathers

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>in this helmet helmet, for example, um, if you're not,

0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't seen a picture of you may be

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking of something that is very feather like, enormous feathers,

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.400
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of these look to be very small feathers,

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>which creates a oh almost kind of a furry appearance

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.839
<v Speaker 1>that it looks like it's something made from the fur

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>or some sort of fabulous multicolored mammal that that we

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>just don't know about, kind of sponge like almost like

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you might imagine that if you were to touch the helm,

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>it would sting you. Yeah. So anyway, just another example

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of the various materials and designs that have been used

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to to cover the human skull, to enhance protection for

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the human skull, but also transform the human body to

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>create some different idea of who we are and what

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>our status is in a given culture. Robert, I have

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this helmet journey. Yeah, there's been a lot of fun.

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 1>And of course we we only got to touch base

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 1>on on so few examples. I mean, there there's so

0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 1>many other traditions and and again you people have whole

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>books about samurai arm or about you know, the martial

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<v Speaker 1>arts and uh an armory and uh and weaponry of say,

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawaiian people. So I hopefully this episode will be

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<v Speaker 1>more as a more of a starting point for folks

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<v Speaker 1>out there that one of these examples really perks your interest,

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<v Speaker 1>then look into it more because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cool material out there, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>photography reconstructions, uh that that really make it rewarding. Absolutely. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we'd love to hear from everybody about this. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if we've touched on a particular helmet that

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<v Speaker 1>is important to you culturally, we'd love to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if it's we've just touched on a topic that

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<v Speaker 1>you have some additional insight regarding. Perhaps you've worn some

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<v Speaker 1>of these helmets, tried them on, or tried on reconstructions

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<v Speaker 1>of them. We would love to hear from you about

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