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It's back be listening 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: for the key word. Well, now we present another chapter 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: in the ongoing battle of communist Sacramento against the rest 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: of us, and this deals with their housing mandates. Newsom 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Dippity Do said, we're gonna make sure we have enough 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: housing in the state of California, and we're gonna come 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: up with a state required housing plan that'll tell each 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: town and city just how many new homes I have 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: to build buy a certain deadline. Well, but one place 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: that's fighting back is Huntington Beach. In fact, a lot 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: of cities in Lawrence County haven't really submitted much plans 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: to build this housing but Huntington Beach has been told 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: that they have to build thirteen thousand, three hundred and 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: sixty eight homes by the end of the decade. Now 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: they have about two hundred thousand people in Huntington Beach 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: and the response from most of the city council the 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: mayor was no, we like our community the way it is, 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: and we think we should decide how to build and 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: where to build and how much to build. So we've 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: now had an ongoing battle between the two and the 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: state is saying, well, there will be repercussions, there will 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: be fines and fees and withholding funding and blah blah. 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Last night the City Council, though voted four to three 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: with another effort was made to adopt the state plan, 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the housing plan, and they rejected it. So we're going 35 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: to talk to the mayor, Tony Strickland and the City 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Attorney Farrington Beach. Michael Gates, guys, you're there. Michael, you're there, 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm here. And Tony Strickland, Hello, thanks for having me on. 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Okay, let's start with City Attorney 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Michael Gates. Very briefly, just explain what the new law 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: was in Sacramento that gave them the right to tell 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: you to build thirteen thousand units. Yeah, So in two 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen, beginning there and up to now, the 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: state has passed dozens and dozens and dozens of ownerous 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: housing laws. Among those new housing laws are mandates for 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: cities to zone, including specifically like Huntington Beach charter cities, 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: which have traditionally had their own housing authority, their own 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: ability to zone for their own needs and their city 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: that the cities now have to build for regional housing 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: needs allocation, which is high density affordable housing. Huntington Beaches 50 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: number or quota handed down by the state two Huntington 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Beaches thirteen, three hundred and sixty eight. So basically, in 52 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: this cycle of eight years, this planning cycle of eight years, 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: the city is now being forced by the state to 54 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: adopt a plan to account for thirteen thousand, three hundred 55 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: and sixty eight units of high density affordable housing. Now, 56 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: as you know from previous conversations, Huntington Beach is largely 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: largely already built out, so that means redevelopment for the city. 58 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: And that's just a number that the city council last 59 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: night said was too much to stomach. Yeah, you know, 60 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: they hate single family homes, the Sacramento communists, and they 61 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: want to force people inside little condo and apartment boxes. 62 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Tony Strickland, you had the mayor the mood of the 63 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: people in Huntington Beach. I imagine most of them like 64 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: their single family home neighborhoods and they're not interested in 65 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: having mass of apartment buildings with all the extra traffic, 66 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: for example, and the parking issues and everything else. This 67 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: fight is fundamental into the way of life that people 68 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: have in Huntington Beach. Huntington Beach is a suburban coastal community. 69 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: The elect the suburban feel of the city, and they 70 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: don't want to urbanize in these folks in Sacramento. Ninety 71 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: five percent of the population in California is built in 72 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: five percent of the area space. We're ninety five percent 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: built out. And what this crazy philosophy from those in 74 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Sacramento is we want to urbanize suburban communities. There's a 75 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: reason why in Sacramento we have the highest gas tax, 76 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: the highest car tax. And when they spend money in transportation, 77 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: they don't do it in roads and highways. They put 78 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: it in things like the bullet train, because they think 79 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: that you're going to get people out of their cars, 80 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: and they want to urbanize all a California. There are 81 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: no incentives to build homes in areas like Sanbordino, for example. 82 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: So Sanbordino Border Supervisors want to develop and they want 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: to build more homes, but the state is stopping them 84 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: from doing so because of the Joshua free cactus. If 85 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: you really had a housing crisis that the governor is 86 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: talking about one, you know, places like Moran, his home 87 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: county is exempt from all these laws till twenty twenty nine. 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: So just like COVID, it is good for other people, 89 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: but not for himself and his donors. And then he 90 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: looked at a place like Huntington Beach and what if 91 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: we went along with what the state asked us to do, 92 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: We'd almost increased our population fifty to one hundred times. 93 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: And you know, John and Ken, they're not going to 94 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: help us with traffic mitigation, They're not going to help 95 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: us with everything that comes with that population. Governor knew 96 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: some left San Francisco and shambles as mayor, I'm not 97 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: going to let him do the same thing to Huntington 98 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: Beach that he did to San Francisco thirty same picking 99 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: on Huntington Beach. Why is it that you guys are 100 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: always in the news over this and not many other places, 101 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: because I see there's a lot of places it's still 102 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: even submitted a plan yet. But why over two hundred 103 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: cities have not complied. But the reason why he comes 104 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: after Huntington Beach is because we're you know, a center, right, 105 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: you know works insertive city that's willing to fight back 106 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: in the bottom line is we have a great city attorney. 107 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: We filed in federal court a lawsuit because we believe 108 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: that our charter city allows us for local control. And 109 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: it's again, I think they're overstepping their bounds. What I've 110 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: said that Governor k Newsome, you have a mega billion 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: dollars deficit. You have a lot of problems to deal 112 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: with as governor of California. He always looks to other 113 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: things and deflects from what he's lacking in doing his job. 114 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: I see, Governor Newsom, do your job and be governor 115 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: of California. Let me be mayor of Huntington Beach. What's 116 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: good for Huntington Beach. I know what's good for Huntington Beach, 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: the governor, Rob Bonta and Bureacrafts and Sacramento do not 118 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: know what's good for Huntington Beach. And quite frankly, if 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: if the state gets their way, you're going to see 120 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: more flight from people in Huntington Beach. They don't want 121 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: to live in La or San Francisco. They like the 122 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: suburban coast of the community that is today. What about 123 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: this builder's remedy thing. It seems to come up in 124 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: the stories. It's in a law that allows developers to 125 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: sidestep your approval and just start building. Could that happen, well, 126 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean that could happen. They could do 127 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: a receivership, but you know, the blood will be on 128 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: his hands. I'm not I got elected by the people 129 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: of Huntington Beach for fighting for our quality of life, 130 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: and if the state's going to come and try to 131 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: destroy I'll be fighting every step of the way, because again, 132 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: that's what people put me in the office to do. 133 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: People put me in office to fight for our quality 134 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: of life. And I'm not going to sign off on 135 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: something called the statement of overriding consideration. In order to comply, 136 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: we have to say that the governor's housing crisis is 137 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: more important than noise, traffic, environmental concerns, or any concerns 138 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: you have with any other development, and we have to 139 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: ignore all those things in order to abide by his 140 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, housing crisis. Now, let's be clear, John Kenn, 141 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm not against development. I fought for a sequel form 142 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: when I was in Sacramento. And but here's the difference. 143 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: I believe that the reason why it's so expensive is 144 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: because all the overregulation the state's been doing all these years, 145 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: and again, quite frankly, they haven't been spending their money wisely, 146 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: and they've been a disaster in terms of management in 147 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: terms of the state of California. Now they wonder why 148 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: they don't have enough housing, Well, they don't have enough 149 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: housing because of all the regulations over the last you know, 150 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: twenty thirty years. And now they're going to trying to 151 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: force great beautiful communities that built out very well, and 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: we're ninety five percent built out, and they want to 153 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: destroy our communities and make them into urban centers, which 154 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: our citizens just don't want. What is the next lea, 155 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: What could happen here in terms of the city, or 156 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: rather the state taking some sort of actions against your city, 157 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: and what could happen with the courts, Well, there's a 158 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: lot of sermon green going on, and for anything to happen, basically, 159 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: the state would have to turn around and sue us, 160 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: have a judge determined that we are violating the law, 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: which I think is gonna the judge, frankly is going 162 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: to be strained to do because our authority to zone 163 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: and make our local decisions as a charter city actually 164 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: flows from the California Constitution. And so when everybody says, oh, well, 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: you need to comply with state law, you have to 166 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: follow state law, you have to do what the state says. Yeah, 167 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: but we're doing what the constitution says and what it 168 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: has said for decades, and that is our local officials 169 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: that are duly elected officials by the people, get to 170 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: make zoning decisions for our city. And so there's going 171 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: to be a number of battles in court, I know, 172 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: and the state law and those who fearmongers say, well, 173 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: the the State's going to issue a bunch of fines, 174 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: There's going to be a bunch of penalties, and that's 175 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: going to cost the city millions of dollars and it 176 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: could go into receivership. You know, there's a process that 177 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: needs to play out in court before any of that happens. 178 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: Judges obviously have to make final decisions on the state's standing, 179 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: so to speak, when it comes to whether it's been 180 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: compliant with state law or not, or has the ability 181 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: to zone for itself. I just think it's terrible that 182 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: you're being targeted while in Marine County it gets it 183 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: gets empty. Well, not only that John, not only that John, 184 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: but there are other little favored nuggets tucked away in 185 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: the state law, including NAPA. NAPA gets to buy out 186 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: of a lot of the arena. City of Commerce also 187 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: gets to skirt the laws. There are a bunch of 188 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: favored areas up and down the state of California that 189 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: have been carved out for special treatment. While the city 190 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: of Huntington Beach has a larger load, a larger quota 191 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: than most other cities, if not all other cities in 192 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: the state of California. So it is punitive. We are 193 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: being punished, and that's part of our lawsuit. We have 194 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: a federal lawsuit filed in court, and it's a massive lawsuit, 195 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: and not only does it highlight the issues, these issues, 196 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: but it also highlights the fact that you know what 197 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: the state's doing is it's depriving our local elected officials 198 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: their voice, their ability to make decisions. So basically, it's 199 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: compelled speech. The state is basically saying, hey, city council, 200 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Hey Mayor Strickland, you'd better vote the way we tell 201 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: you too, or else. All right, Well, that's a violation 202 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: of the First Amendment. That's a violation of our city 203 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: council's authority under the California Constitution to govern its own 204 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: people without interference from the state. I mean, this is 205 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: compelled government state speech. I mean, this is as bad 206 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: as it gets. Michael, we've got to go. Thank you 207 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: for coming out, and we'll be talking to you both again. 208 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: That's the city attorney, Michael Gates for Huntington Beach and 209 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: the mayor Tony Strickland. Thanks for coming on, excellent, Thank you. 210 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for having it all about the mandate of them 211 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: building all these homes. Johnny Ken k I AM six 212 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio Apple. You're listening to John 213 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: and Ken on demand from kf I AM sixty. Yeah, 214 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: we all we were just talking about Governor dippity do, 215 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: and of course said regards Huntington Beach being forced to 216 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: construct over thirteen thousand new homes by the end of 217 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: the decade, and the city council there we all four 218 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: of them against three, put up their hands and said, no, 219 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: that stop sign. We're not going to do that. We're 220 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: not going to adopt the plans. So that's going to 221 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: result in quite a legal fight coming. You know, at 222 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: thirteen thousand means in terms of people, that could be 223 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: about thirty thousand. You think at three a household, maybe, yeah, 224 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: that's that's the average household. I got two hundred thousand people, 225 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: so that's a significant increase in population. Now and what happens, 226 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: and this is a problem where I live on my 227 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: side of town because Mike Bonnen was always doing dirty, 228 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: greasy deals with developers, and he would approve of these 229 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: huge condos to be built places like Olympic Boulevard in 230 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: the West Side or Pico Boulevard, and everybody goes, wow, 231 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: that's really cool. Look at that development, you know, and 232 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: be some condo with you know, several hundred residences in it. 233 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: But that adds hundreds more cars to an area that's 234 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: already gridlocked for hours every morning and afternoon. Right yeah, 235 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: well you know, and then want you in your car 236 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: do anything about the roads, right right, right, But the 237 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: thing that they want to pack in people in your neighborhood. 238 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: And well, the thing is, I still the only way 239 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I can get anywhere is by driving down Sunset Boulevard 240 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: to the four h five. And in the afternoon it 241 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: is a forty minute ride to go one mile from 242 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: my house to the four five. Forty minutes no exaggeration 243 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: because now I'm driving home into that now and I'm 244 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: just astonished as well. This is what they do, is 245 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: they add more of these either greasy deals like Bonden did, 246 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: or they have these mandates. And what what the mayor 247 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: said about like San Bernardino. You drive out east of 248 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: LA there's lots of open space, but years ago they 249 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: prohibited a lot of towns east of LA from building 250 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: suburban housing. They're banned, they can't, they can't develop the land, 251 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: and in turn, they're trying to force the coastal towns 252 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: to build tens of thousands of apartments and condos rather 253 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: than let people live in single family housing to the east. Right, 254 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: And that's that's wrong. That's not the state's call, but 255 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: it's it's this this obsession with you live the way 256 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: we want you to live. This is the way we 257 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: think you should live. You live in a little, a 258 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: little box. And if you ever been to Huntington Beach, 259 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's a coastal community. It's perfect for single 260 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: family homes and lots of fresh air. Nobody wants big buildings. 261 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: To add thirteen thousand, three hundred and it says homes. 262 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: Number of them will probably be a six story apartment buildings. Yeah, no, 263 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna be. They're gonna be. Uh, it's for it's 264 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: for density. Persons. When you see the word density, it 265 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: means oh, apartment buildings, right, yeah, maybe tall of our 266 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: apartment buildings, right, because you got to you got to 267 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: add thirteen thousand of them. You can't have a just 268 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: four story. This is not not duplexes or for plexes. 269 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to build big buildings and the roads 270 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: can't take it, especially with Huntington Beach being along the coast, right, 271 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: you very easily along the beach, you get hemmed in 272 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: and the people who live there no best. Why should 273 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Sacramento with some massive communist housing plan dictate that the 274 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Huntington Beach built exactly thirteen whatever new homes. That's what 275 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: communists believe in the communist central planning. They believe that 276 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: government should dictate how the people live. A lot of 277 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: left wing people believe that they're more and more it's 278 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: part of the woke thing. Yeah, they do believe the 279 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: government needs to take control. Well, we've talked about this 280 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: many times. Gumping sometimes needs to take control of private 281 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: property because they'll know best how to dole it out 282 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: equally to everybody, right, but we all got to share that. 283 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: That's that's kind of the belief of this. That's sort 284 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: of where this comes from. That government knows best exactly 285 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: how many homes need to be built and where. And 286 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: I hope Huntington Beach wins and continues to fight this. 287 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: Like the quote of one city council member in Huntington 288 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: Beach had to read out the end of that story, John, 289 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: I'd rather die on I'd rather die on my feet 290 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: than live on my knees, meaning capitulate. He doesn't want 291 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: to capitulate. Nobody should ever capitulate to Newsom. I don't 292 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: know what it's going to take to get them to 293 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: back off, but you know, I think I got You 294 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: gotta take this to the end. You gotta take this 295 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: to the end. The right to live freely, that is 296 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: a basic bedrock American right. That's white people around the 297 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: world come here to live freely without government control. And 298 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: we are sliding in California to an extreme form of 299 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: government control. All right, when we come back, Well, the 300 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Elsa Gondo Times snared themselves an interview with the fourth 301 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: person for the Mark Ridley Thomas jury to explain how 302 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: they reached the guilty verdicts. No, remember, he was not 303 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: found guilty a lot of the charges, so that's key 304 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: to this story. We're now going to tell you exactly 305 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: what they latched onto and thank god they got they 306 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: found something to find them guilty. But you may be 307 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: pretty amazed by what they dismissed. John and Ken kf 308 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: I AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio apps. 309 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: Was not a very bright crowd. You're listening to John 310 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: and Ken on demand from kf I AM six forty 311 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: and we're on the air to four o'clock on the radio. 312 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: After four o'clock, it's a podcast. Same show on the 313 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: iHeart app called John and Ken on demand and you 314 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: can catch what you missed, all right. The Moist line 315 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: is back day after tomorrow already, so leave those messages. 316 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: You can use the iHeartRadio app, the microphone icon. A 317 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: lot of people do it now. Sounds good on the air, 318 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: or called the toll free number if you have a 319 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: decent phone one eight seven seven Moist eighty six one 320 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: eight seven seven six six four seven eight eight six. Well. 321 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: The l segundo times is to snare an interview with 322 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: the person who was the jury four person on the 323 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: Mark Ridley Thomas trial. He was convicted last week of 324 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: seven federal corruption charges bribery, conspiracy and good old honest 325 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: services fraud. The four person the jury is Cursey killed Paulinian. 326 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: It's a woman by the way, telling this reporter and 327 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: a series of questions and answers how they reached their 328 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: verdict seven of the nineteen counts. So you look at that, 329 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: and they left out a lot accounts, and now we 330 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: understand why. One thing that popped up right away is 331 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: in the answer of why I talked to the media, 332 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: She said, even though I firmly believe he was guilty, 333 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: I feel bad for all of his supporters in his 334 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: family and everybody that was thinking he was doing good 335 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: things in politics, which I also believe he was doing 336 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: good things in politics and helping underserved communities. If I 337 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: were his supporters, I'd want to know more about what happened. 338 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: What is this? These people actually are part of the 339 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: tribute are in love with politicians? Where? What do you? 340 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: What is this woman? Eight years old? No, they're dirty scumbags. Hello, 341 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: they're dirt how most people feel. But there's still some 342 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: people that followed the civics books and they all get 343 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: on juries. They're dirty, conniving crooks. What's wrong with you? 344 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: In in La in La third one to be sent 345 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: to federal prison. Well, you know, I understand why people 346 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: lived sad because he does such good work. There's good 347 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: work for himself. How do you explain what you ultimately 348 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: convicted him onto your friends and family? Like you have 349 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: to explain it to your friends and family. You have 350 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: to succinctly. I explained it like this. He asked Marilyn 351 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: Flynn to do something for him, and in exchange, he 352 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: voted yes on a county contract that would get money 353 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: coming into her school. There you go, bro. My friends 354 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: were curious about one hundred thousand dollars. But it didn't 355 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: really come down to whether the donation was legal or illegal. 356 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: It's the fact that he routed it through USC, and 357 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: they tried to make it look like it was just 358 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: a donation to the university, But there was an email 359 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: giving further instructions, and we knew that he was behind 360 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: the routing of the hundred thousand dollars. Now we'll stop there, 361 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: because as you read further in this interview, that's the 362 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: conviction one hundred thousand dollars. They didn't think that Sebastian 363 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas's admission to USC and the scholarship that he got, 364 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: that that was part of the bribe. They did necessarily 365 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: believe that he asked that the writer what's his name, 366 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: Matt Hamilton asked this specifically. You mentioned that a lot 367 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: of people on the jury didn't view the admission and 368 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: the scholarship as necessarily part of the overall conspiracy. Yes, 369 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: and Hamilton's said, and that was because Sebastian was qualified 370 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: for those or was it just that it seemed consistent 371 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: without how USC operated. We just decided that USC had 372 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: some kind of VIP program, and how were we to 373 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: know that Sebastian wasn't a part of that. Oh God, 374 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: where was all college admission scandal? Was there any evidence 375 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: submitted by the defense that indicated it was a VIP program, 376 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: a legitimate program. There was no very similar to the 377 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: college admission scandal, which, of course also something happened at 378 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: USC Right. Yes, remember the daughter and her fake what 379 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: was it waterpolo pictures or whatever. Yes, But the thing is, 380 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: if that was a defense, then Ridley Thomas's attorneys would 381 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: have presented it. Oh no, no, no, we qualified for 382 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: the special VIP package and and and it's like, so 383 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, and you know, at first she claims, well, 384 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: we just had to follow the law, and we had 385 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: to follow the a jury instructions. But it would when 386 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: it came to two thirds of the charges that he 387 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: was found not guilty on, it was because we just decided, well, 388 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: they have had of the IB program, she said. With 389 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: the professorship. Well, we were always a little bit mixed. 390 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: We could see it both ways. What I finally think 391 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: made everybody rethink that part of the bribe was that 392 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: there was just too much phone communication. We didn't know 393 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: what happened. The government did try to make it seem 394 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: like Well, two minutes later he called Marilyn Flint about this, 395 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: but we couldn't be sure beyond a reasonable doubt. They 396 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: could have been talking about something else. We don't know 397 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: what gardening tip one hundred thousand we were pretty certain 398 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: from because there, you see, there was an audit trail 399 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: for the hundred thousand. But thank God for the would 400 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: have found him not guilty. You had two people that 401 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: they agreed we're part of a bribery conspiracy. Then these 402 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: two people had another deal that benefited Ridley Thomas's son 403 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: in the same way. It's the same beneficiary. Ridley Thomas's son, 404 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: Sebastian got the hundred thousand dollars and he also got 405 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: the scholarship chip. So if they were if you agree 406 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: that the first part was a bribe, then how could 407 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: the second part not be a bribe? What is honestly, 408 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard this group. Later, 409 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: she was asked about that confidential letter that got delivered 410 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: to Mark Relely Thomas directly from Marilyn Flynn. Well, we 411 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: talked about a lot, but most of the jury just 412 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: thought the USC admission in the scholarship weren't part of 413 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: the bribe of the scheme. It was just one hundred 414 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Yeah, it doesn't crazy, that's nuts. Of course 415 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: it was all the same thing. And why the hell 416 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't the prosecution put Marilyn Flynn up on the stand 417 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: to explain it. Her plea agreement was she wouldn't have to. 418 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: So that's what they had to give up for that. 419 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but why, Well then they shouldn't have made 420 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: that plea agreement. Maybe they should have leaned on her 421 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: hard or right, they could have. Well, they wouldn't have 422 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: proven the case against her too. They proved it against 423 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas. Had I proved it against her? Oh yeah, 424 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: because she had mostly was emails from her side that 425 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: they were using. Well gets the emails explaining that this 426 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: is coming together for I mean, didn't they see? The 427 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: thing is, you can't ever assume that the jury is 428 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: going to get it. These people are dumb. Honestly, they're dumb. Well, 429 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's a VIP program. Well, there's 430 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: nothing in the and that that trial went on for weeks. 431 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: There was nothing in there about a VIP program. You 432 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: made that up. They made something up and then their 433 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: decision was based on a concept that they invented. There 434 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: was a service dog in the courtroom. We found out 435 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: what was the dog's name. His name was Homer. He 436 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: was really well behaved. Okay, that's what you're dealing with. 437 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: You're dealing with somebody brings a service dog to a 438 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: jury deliberation. Okay, they're well put together. Wow, it's it's 439 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess it's shocking that that. By the way, everybody, 440 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: stop falling in love with politicians. You're you're a grown man, 441 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: you're a grown woman. You said it best, Mark Ridley Thomas. 442 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: Unknown to most people in La County, let's be honest, 443 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: local politicians are. But to those who knew who he was, 444 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: he was a presence. He was this commanding He spoke, 445 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: you know, with that deep tone like he was a 446 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: minister or a pastor. He just commanded your respect. And 447 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: it's emotional manipulation. People who are born with a strong 448 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: voice or a certain kind of presence, they know they 449 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: have it, and they use that to get their way 450 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: and influence people. I mean, every single religious evangelist who 451 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: has been thrown into jail had that. The politicians who 452 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 1: get thrown into jail have that. Well. In the end, 453 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: she says, she doesn't feel great. I think people just 454 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: assume like, oh, yeah, guilty. You know, well, a big 455 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: win for fighting corruption. But even if that's the case, 456 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: it's not fun. Somebody's guilty. You kidding? You know, I 457 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: would be dancing. I would be so excited I could 458 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: personally put one of these bastards in prison. How could 459 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: you not enjoy that? I know if you're on the 460 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: bial jewry, Yeah, but that there'll be one. But wouldn't 461 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: that be great? Well, maybe there will be. We can 462 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: every day. I hope every day's possible. All Right, we 463 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: got more coming up. Johnny Ken kf I am six 464 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to 465 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: John and Ken on demand from Kfix. We'll be talking 466 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: to San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmon, pretty much the 467 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: only bon on the board that says Nathan Fletcher leave now. 468 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: Fletcher has resigned, but it's not effective until near the 469 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: end of next month. Another dirt bag. He's involved in 470 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: quite a scandal right He's being sued for sexual harassment 471 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: by a former employee of the transit board that he 472 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: was a member of, and he's on leave right now 473 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: because he says he needs alcohol rehab. And he feel 474 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: so sad for him, And I feel so sad for 475 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: the people who he represents and the people who voted 476 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: for him. I feel so sad for them all. Right. Now, 477 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: here's another reason why old Joe Biden has to go. 478 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: And it's a story that is apparently slipped under the 479 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: radar of coverage this week for most wouldn't even call 480 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: the mainstream but media outlets. Remember the Chinese spy balloon 481 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: that across the United States. Yes, well, that's the beauty 482 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: of having a Trump trial. It's gonna completely obliterate all 483 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: of Biden's fallops. Well. US officials told NBC News that 484 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: apparently the Chinese spy balloon that entered US airspace near 485 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: Alaska at the end of January was able to collect 486 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: intelligence on American military sites. The balloon, of course, was 487 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: spotted flying in Montana, home to Intercontinental Ballistic Missile fields. 488 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: The Beijing blimp could fly in figure eight pirouetts, lingering 489 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: over areas of interest. The balloon could pick up electronic 490 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: signals and transmit them right to Beijing in real time. 491 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: This came from NBC, which is generally a left wing, 492 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: woke media outlet, but nobody else picked it up. I'm 493 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: looking at an editorial in the Wall Street Journal which 494 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: is saying, well, the Biden people lied to us, didn't they. Yes, 495 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: it was a big lie, they claimed. The Biden's crowd 496 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: claimed that the balloon did not present a big intelligence 497 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: risk and couldn't suck up better information than the Chinese 498 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: satellites already in orbit. Yeah, they thought it's low to 499 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: the earth, what can it really pick up? And you know, 500 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: it's probably just got antiquated surveillance gear on board. And 501 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: here's the exact quotes the Pentagon told reporters February second quote, 502 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: whatever the surveillance payload is on the balloon, it does 503 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: not create significant value added over satellites. That was a lie. 504 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: And then Defense officials set on the fourth that that 505 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: the action of shooting the balloon down neutralized any intelligence 506 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: value it could have produced. It prevented it from returning 507 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: intelligence to Beijing. That's also a lie. It looks like 508 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: it could transmit it in real time, yea. And whatever 509 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: it picked up, it was going right back to Beijing 510 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: as it flew over the country and didn't get shut 511 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: down for days. Here's more from the Biden crowd. The 512 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: US military quote took all necessary steps to protect against 513 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: the balloon's collection of sensitive information. That's a lie. The 514 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: balloon's trip was of intelligence value to the US. That's 515 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: a lie. We tracked it closely, we analyzed its capabilities, 516 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: and we learned more about how it operates, said Biden. 517 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: And because we knew its path, we were able to 518 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: protect sensitive sites against collection. That's out of Biden's mouth. 519 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: That's a lie. It's all lies, all lies. Oh does 520 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: that make you feel bad? Another corrupt, lying politician? What 521 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: a shock? It's just yeah. And why why don't we 522 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: do a little audit on all the Chinese connections to Joe, 523 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: Jim and Hunter Biden's bank accounts. Well, weird about this 524 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: is they're real worked up about TikTok, right, yeah, exactly, 525 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: and banning the app in the US because they might 526 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: be able to collect information on Americans. You got this 527 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: thing flying around apparently picking up information on military sites 528 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: in real time and transmitting it right back, and we 529 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: just let it float around for days. I mean, does 530 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: that make any sense? And remember how we responded, we 531 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: shot down a hobby balloon though, that's right, we did 532 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: those those whether from a balloon hobby group, we see 533 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: how far they can fly the balloon and where it 534 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: ends up right, And and the other ones that they 535 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: shot down, you notice nobody ever never ever claimed them. Yeah, 536 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: there was never any follow up on There was just 537 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: the one balloon that we talked group. There were probably 538 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: balloons that they whoever sent them up, the other hobby 539 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: groups maybe had given up on them, like they weren't 540 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: wracking them anymore, so they just float freely until something 541 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: happens to take them down. So that's why they weren't 542 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: reported missing, because no, these people don't need them anymore. Yeah, well, 543 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: the arc of this completely makes sense now. Once the 544 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: balloon was over the United States and the embarrassment was 545 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: already out there, the strategy was tell the American people, 546 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: it probably doesn't mean much. This balloon can't really collect anything, 547 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: and if it does, well, we'll eventually shoot it down 548 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: and we'll have it before it gets back to Beijing. 549 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: And then the response was, but people are worked up 550 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: over this balloon, so if we see anything else out 551 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: there like this, let's not take any chances and shoot 552 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: it down, which they did. What was it three times 553 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: over that weekend? Yeah, yeah, so let's shoot down some 554 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: twy balloons to make the public things like, well, think 555 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: like we're on top of things. Yeah. And then they 556 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: tried to act like, well, we're gonna we're gonna get 557 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: that to bring and analyze it and see what it was. 558 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: And it turned out to be a hobby balloon. And 559 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: when the truth comes out, it's the day of Trump's prosecution. So, oh, 560 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: nobody noticed the story. It got buried. It did get buried. Yeah, 561 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: this is a politic. The other day and then I 562 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: saw the Wall Street Journal editorial and I said, I 563 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: want to read this some more because there's probably something 564 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: to this that most media is not reporting. The coverage 565 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: was obsessive twenty four seven for that week on the balloon. 566 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Right when the truth comes out that it was a 567 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: spy balloon that worked and sucked up a lot of 568 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: important sense of information. Oh there's no coverage. Why isn't there? 569 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: Walden Wall coverage about all the lies the Biden administration 570 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: told and the Defense Department told, all right, when we 571 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: come back, we'll be talking once again to San Diego 572 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: County Supervisor Jim Desmond. Usually it's about all the crazy 573 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: transit policies being proposed down there by the SANDAG, the 574 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: San Diego Association of Governments and their communist leader Hassana Krata. 575 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: But this time he became the first board member to 576 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: call for Nathan Fletcher to step down immediately. He's been 577 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: accused of sexual misconduct and he's got a whole lot 578 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: of problems and he should leave. Now. We'll talk to Jim. 579 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: Coming up, John and Ken kf I A M six forty. 580 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app and Debra Mark live 581 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: in the twenty four hour KFI Newsroom. 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