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Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox

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Speaker 1: on five four radio.

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Speaker 2: Listen if you are listening to the iHeartRadio app and

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Speaker 2: you are listening in Europe and all over the world,

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Speaker 2: congratulations because somebody from here went over and took from there.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Big win yesterday for Scotti Scheffler, raising the American flag

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Speaker 2: and represented the country proud and putting on a show

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Speaker 2: yet again. The greatest golfer on the planet performs yet again,

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Speaker 2: seventeen under guy finished seventeen under par So Scotti Scheffler

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Speaker 2: is your Can we call it the British Open? Just

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Speaker 4: All we call it the British Open? I think everyone

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Speaker 4: else is the one that calls it the Open. I

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Speaker 4: mean it is the oldest Major, so there is something

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Speaker 4: to that. But the run that he's been on the

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Speaker 4: past two years is incredible. I think he's been the

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Speaker 4: number one player now for one hundred and fourteen weeks.

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Speaker 4: Like we're watching a run similar to some of the

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Speaker 4: all time greats that I will caution this, people have been,

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Speaker 4: you know, putting out there all these stats comparing him

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Speaker 4: to Tiger. Okay, so twenty twenty two to twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: which is the run Scotty's been on. He plays, he's

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Speaker 4: played in eighty one events, He's one to twenty. He's

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Speaker 4: got four majors and two players championships. Okay, Tiger from

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Speaker 4: you're like, oh, okay, it's kind of similar to Tiger, right,

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Speaker 4: so maybe some of this is warranted. Then you go

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Speaker 4: back three years before that for Tiger from ninety nine

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Speaker 4: to two thousand and two, seventy eight events, twenty seven wins,

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Speaker 3: So I will say what Scotty's doing is in sports

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Speaker 4: I would argue he's the most dominant player where he

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Speaker 4: And that's what you hear them talk about, that he's

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Speaker 4: and that's how it kind of felt even though NBC

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Speaker 4: did their best to pump up ry McElroy all they could,

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Speaker 4: was I the only one who felt that way watching it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's I mean, we've got okay, did you hear

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Speaker 2: this was courtesy? Do we know the credit on this?

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Speaker 3: On this all right?

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Speaker 2: So this was we're going to try and get the credit.

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Speaker 2: So if you are listening overseas and you're a big

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Speaker 2: fan of this show, understand that we will get the

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Speaker 2: credit as soon as we have the proper credit to give.

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Speaker 2: But this was the British version of Rory McElroy over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, and you tell me if there was a

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Speaker 3: This is for Eagle three. It's on its way. Come on, Rory, come.

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Speaker 5: On, Rory, keep going, keep going, keep going.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, it's coming over the ridge, go.

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Speaker 5: One on again, on again, Yes, bounds Rory McElroy, Eagle

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Speaker 2: It's like like hearing me roote for my kid, like

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Speaker 2: you supposed to be impartial? Aren't you supposed to just

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Speaker 2: I don't know golf etiquette as well as you do,

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Speaker 4: There's not many tournaments that are played in Northern Ireland. Uh,

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Speaker 4: Royal Port Rush is not the home course for Roy

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Speaker 4: but it was one where you know, he's they're trying

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Speaker 4: Like we've got Scotti Scheffler who's dominating the sport. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, he's not. Tiger Woods was his own world,

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Speaker 2: And Scotti Scheffler even talked because people took that quote

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Speaker 2: They finally won a championship and they were like, is

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Speaker 3: Like? Is that is that it?

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Speaker 2: And so Scheffler. Afterwards yesterday was again asked about those comments,

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Speaker 6: I think we live now in a day and age

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Speaker 6: of where, you know, clickbait is kind of what people

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Speaker 2: Being able to compete out here and.

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Speaker 6: To be able to win the Open Championship here at

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Speaker 3: You know, if.

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Speaker 6: Somebody's going to listen to the comments I had this week,

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Speaker 6: I would encourage them to listen to all of it,

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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, this is amazing.

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Speaker 6: To win the Open Championship but at the end of

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Speaker 6: My gosh, Yeah, this is a cool feeling. I can't

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Speaker 6: I actually talked to Shane about this week was, you know,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Maybe for a few moments, maybe for a few days,

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Speaker 2: It's just he's not wrapped up in it. He's got

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Speaker 4: Can I make it a comparison of Scotty Scheffler to

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Speaker 4: So I would say the closest thing in the radio

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'll take it, and that is one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: When I get home to my son, he doesn't care

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Speaker 2: to know is, Hey, when are we going to play baseball?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Can I get this monster truck? Like he doesn't care

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Speaker 2: nowhere close. And I do wonder what is the game

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Speaker 4: It's it's tough to figure out who exactly that person

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Speaker 2: going to get a deal with.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals based on that report, Does it feel like

437
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Speaker 4: the Bengals are almost betting against him being able to

438
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Speaker 4: keep this sort of productivity? And that's what it feels like.

439
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Speaker 4: If you're only able to give him one year of

440
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Speaker 4: guaranteesing the deal, you're looking at his age and you're

441
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Speaker 4: saying he's either going to be subject to injury or

442
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Speaker 4: he's going to have a dramatic decline in his level

443
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Speaker 4: of play. Now, I also say this too about Al Golden,

444
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Speaker 4: and we you and I have talked about this before

445
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Speaker 4: in regards to scheme and sometimes the coordinators and how

446
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Speaker 4: that can play a factor into how they value players,

447
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 4: and some organizations and how those coaches play a.

448
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Speaker 3: Factor in how much they value, you know, a.

449
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Speaker 4: Big contract extension like this, because if you've got a

450
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Speaker 4: more elaborate scheme where we're gonna be pressuring like Al

451
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Speaker 4: Golden does, and I assume what he did a Notre

452
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Speaker 4: Dame wi Vise very similar to what he's going to

453
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Speaker 4: do in Cincinnati. I'm not saying that you don't need

454
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Speaker 4: talented players. You always need talented players, But when you

455
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Speaker 4: talk about a guy who's got what seventeen sacks the

456
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Speaker 4: past two years. You know, you are at times trying

457
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Speaker 4: to isolate him and you can get away with a

458
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Speaker 4: four man rush because he's so productive, and I'm sure

459
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Speaker 4: every defense coordinator would love that luxury. But if you're

460
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Speaker 4: a guy who likes to bring pressure and likes to,

461
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Speaker 4: you know, do a variety of things, maybe that is necessary,

462
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Speaker 4: right because you're going to find a way of getting

463
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Speaker 4: free runners based on the protection, and you're going to

464
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Speaker 4: scheme up some things to get pressure. You don't need

465
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Speaker 4: to necessarily pay, you know, a ton of money out

466
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Speaker 4: for it.

467
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Speaker 3: That's the case. So I do wonder how you know

468
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Speaker 3: that new.

469
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Speaker 4: Defensive scheme without golden calling the defense is factors in

470
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Speaker 4: to some degree to to any of this. But when

471
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Speaker 4: I hear only one year of guarantees, what it's saying

472
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Speaker 4: to me is like they don't believe that he's going

473
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Speaker 4: to be able to maintain his production. They don't believe

474
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Speaker 4: he's going to be able to maintain his level of health,

475
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Speaker 4: which is unfortunate. So hopefully they can get to a

476
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Speaker 4: point where they at least give him two years of guarantees.

477
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Speaker 4: You know, it used to be quarterbacks were the only

478
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Speaker 4: ones who got into the third year. We're seeing some

479
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 4: of the top players now other positions get that, and

480
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 4: we've obviously seen players like Deshaun Watson get a fully

481
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Speaker 4: guaranteed deal, but those are few and far between. As

482
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Speaker 4: we know, the owners have colluded to make sure that

483
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Speaker 4: doesn't happen again.

484
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Speaker 2: This is what doesn't make any sense about what the

485
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Speaker 2: Bengals are doing. If this is the approach, and the

486
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Speaker 2: report is true, he's only getting one year of guarantees.

487
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Speaker 2: I could understand if there was a history of injuries,

488
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Speaker 2: especially over the past couple of years, as he's gotten older.

489
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Speaker 2: There hasn't every game the past two years. He's gotten

490
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Speaker 2: better as the contract has gone on, like from twenty

491
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Speaker 2: twenty one to now, he's gotten better, and he's been

492
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Speaker 2: healthy the previous two years. So if anybody's got a gripe,

493
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: or if anybody's got a hey, you know, look at

494
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Speaker 2: what I've done. There's no evidence to support the fact

495
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Speaker 2: that maybe I'm slipping as I'm getting a little bit older.

496
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Speaker 2: In fact, I've gotten better the previous two seasons. It's

497
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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. And yet, for some reason, if that's the

498
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Speaker 2: case and the Bengals are like, yeah, we're just not

499
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Speaker 2: sure if you can keep this up. What has given

500
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Speaker 2: you any indication of that. He hasn't missed games like

501
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Speaker 2: he's produced, He's been one of your only producers on

502
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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. Without him, what is

503
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Speaker 2: this defense? And then it goes to the Shamar Stewart

504
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Speaker 2: stuff where it's like, Okay, well, at least we've got

505
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Speaker 2: a backup plan. You don't even have that like that.

506
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Speaker 2: That's the part of this I don't understand. And I

507
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Speaker 2: know that you're paying somebody not for what they did,

508
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: but for what they can do. But at a certain

509
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Speaker 2: point you do have to look at this and go,

510
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Speaker 2: what evidence do we have to support us thinking that

511
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Speaker 2: he can't last, or that he can't hold up physically

512
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Speaker 2: or whatever it is at this at this stage of

513
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Speaker 2: his career, when all the evidence would point to no,

514
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: he actually has and in fact, he's gotten better the

515
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Speaker 2: previous two years. That's the part of this. It doesn't

516
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Speaker 2: make any sense to me.

517
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Speaker 4: It's also odd too, because we've seen like older pass

518
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Speaker 4: rushers still be able to play extremely well late into

519
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Speaker 4: their career, and if you look at how the leagues

520
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Speaker 4: continue to evolve, it's not as if we're talking about,

521
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Speaker 4: you know, a guy who is going to be going

522
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Speaker 4: up against a lot of you know I formations, base

523
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Speaker 4: personnel sets where you're going to be playing against the

524
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Speaker 4: run more often than not. I mean, these guys are

525
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Speaker 4: are there, everyone's throwing more, everyone's playing more spread formations.

526
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Speaker 4: So he's going to have the opportunity to be in

527
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Speaker 4: there on passing downs or even passing situations to impact

528
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Speaker 4: the game. So you know, not only do you do

529
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Speaker 4: you like to have Shamar Stewart in there as a

530
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Speaker 4: young player, but you'd like to have a veteran that

531
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Speaker 4: at least if it's you know, for a year, you

532
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: know they can you know, they can model this after it.

533
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Speaker 4: And to be quite honest, that's the other part of

534
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Speaker 4: the equation is they're only probably willing to do one

535
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Speaker 4: year of guarantees because they don't want to have to

536
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Speaker 4: thrust Shamar Steward, as we talked to Pete Prisco about yesterday,

537
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Speaker 4: into starting and playing right away. He hasn't been there

538
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Speaker 4: all off season. They can't seem to figure out that

539
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Speaker 4: contractual situation. So even if they do get him in

540
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Speaker 4: at some point, you'd like him to be able to

541
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Speaker 4: sit and watch and then slowly work him in until

542
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Speaker 4: he's playing a more pivotal role. And then two years

543
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Speaker 4: from now, you know, let that be his opportunity to

544
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Speaker 4: be the guy. And at that point in time, you're

545
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: going to look at Trey Hendrickson say, hey, there's no

546
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: guarantees left on this deal. That makes it much easier

547
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Speaker 4: to trade. That makes us much much easier to move

548
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Speaker 4: on from you if we need to, if there's an issue.

549
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 4: You know, creates more flexibility for the ownership. So you

550
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 4: can understand too why they only have one year of

551
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Speaker 4: guarantees in it, and and because of you know who's

552
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Speaker 4: waiting in the wings. And you can understand why Trey

553
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Speaker 4: Hendrickson would be frustrated by that because to a certain

554
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 4: degree he is that's the running on the wall, like

555
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 4: he knows exactly the move that they made. Even though

556
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: you know Sam Hubber retired, you know, they still are

557
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 4: looking at it saying like this is eventually going to end,

558
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 4: and we've got your replacement waiting to you know, sitting

559
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: right behind you, waiting to come in for that moment.

560
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Speaker 3: We just haven't Pharaoh's contract yet.

561
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Speaker 2: How could Joe Burrow factor into this? Could he put

562
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Speaker 2: pressure on the organization publicly. I know it's not you know,

563
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: maybe his job to do that, But if he's the guy,

564
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Speaker 2: if he's the face of the franchise, and you know

565
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: he has spoken about yeah, listen, it's not ideal. You know,

566
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Speaker 2: we've got you know, he's made mention of it before

567
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: in the off season. But if they start asking him questions,

568
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: how could he put pressure on them to try and

569
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Speaker 2: get this deal done? Because he wanted to get the

570
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Speaker 2: t Higgins deal done, they got it done. He wanted

571
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Speaker 2: to get Jamar Chase done. They got it done. They

572
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: obviously got his deal done. Why not step on the

573
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Speaker 2: gas and put heat on the organization to get this done?

574
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Speaker 3: Well, that'd be a better question for him.

575
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Speaker 4: But of course he could, you know, put pressure on

576
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Speaker 4: them by publicly stating we need to get this done

577
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Speaker 4: or publicly advocate for Trey and not that I mean

578
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: that would be a comment that if he said it

579
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 4: out loud or to the media, I would assume Mike

580
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: Brown would be walking down to his locker soon after that.

581
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's where this thing goes. So he's

582
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 4: aware of that he's been compensated handsomely, and you know,

583
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Speaker 4: as much as you want to help out your teammates,

584
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Speaker 4: there's also elements of like, well how much are you.

585
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Speaker 3: Willing to help out?

586
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Speaker 4: And maybe that would be a conversation Mike Brown would

587
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: would have with them, you know, But again that hasn't

588
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 4: happened yet, not saying it won't if we don't get

589
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: to that point, but because I'm sure they're going to

590
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: continue to keep asking Joe Burrow about this, and again

591
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Speaker 4: I keep going back.

592
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Speaker 3: To the track record.

593
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Speaker 4: I know Bengals fans probably hate hearing this, and I

594
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: sound like it's a broken record, but Carson Palmer got

595
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: frustrated with this and it eventually drove him away from

596
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: the franchise. And you have to beg It begs to

597
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: ask the question, will Joe Burrow get frustrated with this

598
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: if every single time you know, we look at this

599
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: Bengals organization is are they willing to step up? You know,

600
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 4: we never got our clip yesterday together Of all the

601
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 4: many things that I told you, Pete Prisco would saying defense.

602
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Speaker 2: Of the Bengals, By the way, your best performance in

603
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: the history of this show is I don't know.

604
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: About that, but the prediction, I mean, it's again It's

605
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 4: very easy to tell with Pete because he's got his

606
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: buddies and he defends his buddies and like anyone would,

607
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: but he's also blinded to the fact that they are cheap.

608
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I know guys who played for that organization.

609
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: Trust me, they are cheap, all right. They will any.

610
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: Play Let's play with them, and they play anywhere else.

611
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: They'll tell you that.

612
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Speaker 4: So that being said, I do think Burrow could help,

613
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: but it might come at the expense of maybe his

614
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: relationship with Mike Brown or the organization and how that

615
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: would feel.

616
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Speaker 2: Like I do wonder about that when you mentioned people

617
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: who have been there, because I TJ. Hush Manzada has

618
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: talked about just how cheap they were when he was

619
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Speaker 2: a part of it, and then you hear the Carson

620
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: Palmer stuff. He basically just decided to retire, like really

621
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Speaker 2: good quarterback just decided I got to get the hell

622
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Speaker 2: out of here. I can't be a part of this anymore.

623
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Speaker 2: And I do wonder all this offseason is done, even

624
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: though they paid T Higgins and even though they paid

625
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, Like if you're a defensive player, like are

626
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: you even considering the Bengals in free agency, Like, based

627
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: on all of this, if you're a guy in the draft,

628
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: are you looking at the Bengals when their pick comes

629
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: up and you're playing on that side of the ball, thinking, oh, please,

630
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: please not this? Like all they've done is prove people

631
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: right about how frugal and cheap the organization is. And

632
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 2: Bengal fans can get pissy about it all they want.

633
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: Andy Furman just text me, by the way, all of

634
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: a sudden, he's a Bengals ball washer, a guy's been

635
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: ripping the organization for thirty five years, going all the

636
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: way back to Sam Weish, and now he's texting me

637
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: going but Trey's under contract. Apparently that doesn't mean anything, dude,

638
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: He's outperformed his deal. Max Crosby went down with an

639
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: injury last year and got paid this offseason. Miles Garrett

640
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: got paid, TJ Watt got paid. He's made Trey Hendrickson

641
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: and is making half of what those guys have made,

642
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: and he had a better year than all of them

643
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: last year. Like I don't there's no argument for the

644
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: Bengals at this point. And for some reason, you got

645
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: people like fanboys like Andy Furman, who's gonna sit there

646
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: and cap up for him. It's disgusting.

647
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Speaker 2: We've got traditions here on this show, and we've got

651
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Speaker 2: none better than the one and only Petros Papadakis, the

652
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Speaker 2: co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you

653
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Speaker 2: can hear on the blowtorch AM five to seventy LA

654
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Speaker 2: Sports Fox College Football Analyst. You can also get him

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Speaker 2: on X at the Old pe Petros, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 8: How you feeling Will I'm all right, I'm here, Yeah

658
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Speaker 8: you are. What's going on? Is everybody at the Big

659
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Speaker 8: ten media Day?

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Speaker 3: Everyone?

661
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Speaker 2: No?

662
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Speaker 3: Not everyone? Brady, I'm here, Okay.

663
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Speaker 2: What was before we get to that? How was Mountain

664
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Speaker 2: West Media Days? Petros?

665
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Speaker 3: The Death of the Mountain West.

666
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Speaker 8: I saw the Mountain West commissioner at like a cocktail

667
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 8: party and she was like.

668
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Speaker 3: We're just going to concentrate on this year, you know.

669
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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, for sure.

670
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Speaker 2: Did you have any fun interactions with Timmy Chang again

671
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Speaker 2: or no?

672
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Timmy Chang.

674
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Speaker 8: Actually It was great to talk about Hawaii football with him,

675
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 8: and they had a much better year than anybody thought.

676
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Speaker 3: And his old defensive or his defensive.

677
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Speaker 8: Coordinator is the guy that recruited me at USC, Dennis Thurman,

678
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Speaker 8: an old All.

679
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Speaker 3: American from there.

680
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Speaker 8: Yeah, DT no way, all right, Cowboys USC All American,

681
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 8: Santa Monica High school legend. So I go way back

682
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 8: with old DT uh from my brother's days and being recruited.

683
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 8: So that was cool to catch up with Timmy Chang.

684
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 8: There are some actually really interesting coaches in that league

685
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 8: and to sit, you know, for fifteen minutes alone with

686
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 8: each of them is always rewarding. Troy Calhoun is great

687
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 8: from Air Force and has been there forever. Last place

688
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 8: he coached was the Houston Texans, and he was telling

689
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Speaker 8: me about how they didn't pick Vince Young or Reggie

690
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 8: Bush and why and all that when they had the

691
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Speaker 8: first pick in the draft so many years ago. And

692
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Speaker 8: Ken mia Motalolo, who was at Navy for like twenty

693
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Speaker 8: eight years and now at San Jose State, is interesting

694
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Speaker 8: to talk to. Bronco Mendenhall, very professorial now at Utah State.

695
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Speaker 8: And then Dan Mullen who's now at UNLV, who's really

696
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's crazy what's happened to UNLV. And yes,

697
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 8: they've always had not always, but in the last you know,

698
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 8: ten to fifteen years, they've had this big donor for Tita,

699
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 8: one of the guys that owns the when they own

700
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Speaker 8: the Houston Rockets and they own a whole bunch of

701
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Speaker 8: stuff in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: He's still own the UFC, right, yeah, yeah, and they

703
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Speaker 3: they had a huge donor there.

704
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Speaker 8: But now that Vegas is like a town, as you know,

705
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Speaker 8: with the A's coming and you got the hockey team

706
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Speaker 8: and you have maybe Hoops come in and all of

707
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Speaker 8: these the Raiders and the fact that they play an

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Speaker 8: allegiance now UNLV other than the fact that I think

709
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Speaker 8: there's some contract stipulation that means wherever they go they

710
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Speaker 8: have to bring Nevada with them, which is kind of

711
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Speaker 8: like having to bring cousin Eddie with you, you know,

712
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Speaker 8: to a bougie party. But I mean, Reno is a trip,

713
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Speaker 8: right And I like that coach too, Chote, who was

714
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Speaker 8: with SARK at Texas.

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Speaker 3: But UNLV is really on the come up. And it

716
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Speaker 3: was interesting talking.

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Speaker 8: To Dan Mullen, who's made a lot of money coaching

718
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Speaker 8: in the SEC and saying, you know, I gonna have

719
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Speaker 8: a drink here in Vegas and as a coaching you

720
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Speaker 8: and help me with my wife, and nobody cares and

721
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Speaker 8: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: They don't say you got to be at the office.

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Speaker 3: You know. It was interesting talking all these different guys.

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Speaker 8: So it was actually, even though the Mountain West is dying,

725
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 8: it seems or will look a lot different next year.

726
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 8: People do want nighttime time slots, so we'll see how

727
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Speaker 8: it shakes out.

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Speaker 4: But I had a picture how different does it sound

729
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Speaker 4: with Dan Mullen talking from his perspective at UNLV versus

730
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Speaker 4: like if he was like Starkville, you know, does he

731
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Speaker 4: think will you be able to go out in Starkville?

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Speaker 1: No?

733
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Speaker 3: That was his point, you know.

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Speaker 8: I mean he was saying that the SEC, the amount

735
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 8: of pressure that they put on you is almost not

736
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Speaker 8: worth it, which is very interesting because you know who

737
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Speaker 8: else I talked to was the new Fresno coach Matt Entz,

738
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Speaker 8: who is a great coach. He was at USC last

739
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Speaker 8: year coaching linebackers, but he was the head coach championship

740
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Speaker 8: head coach coach at North Dakota State, so he was

741
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Speaker 8: one of those guys like Chris Cleman who's at Kansas State,

742
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Speaker 8: or I don't know if Leipold was there, but he

743
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 8: has a background in small universities. But Dickert was at

744
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 8: North Dakota State. I don't think he was the head coach.

745
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 8: Craig Bowl from Wyoming was at North Dakota State. And

746
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 8: these guys all say the same thing. They were miserable

747
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 8: and fargo and not because of the weather and all

748
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 8: that and what you're used to. But if you win

749
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Speaker 8: thirteen games and lose one, they tell you for three

750
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 8: months that you're a failure and it's sixty below.

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Speaker 3: You know.

752
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Speaker 8: The second you know, you lose it in December or whatever,

753
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Speaker 8: and it's sixty below and they tell you you're a failure

754
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 8: for the rest of the year. These guys can't wait

755
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 8: to get out of there. But that guy, Matt Enttz

756
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 8: was at USC last year and now he's the head

757
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 8: coach at Fresno and he was interesting to talk to too.

758
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Speaker 8: They talked about that fish bowl of North Dakota State,

759
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Speaker 8: and I think it's very similar to an SECC where,

760
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Speaker 8: I mean, look, you want to have alignment, the best

761
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 8: thing you can have to have success as a college

762
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 8: football coach is the ad the president of the university,

763
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 8: and the head coach and the whole staff all on

764
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Speaker 8: the same page, right like Oklahoma used to have when

765
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 8: Bob Stoops was there. Everybody holds you up, everybody holds

766
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Speaker 8: the program up. I'd imagine it's not very different at

767
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 8: Penn State or places like that, but you have to

768
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 8: have that. But if you do have that, like every

769
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 8: SEC school, where everybody's aligned to have a great football program,

770
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 8: you would do end up in a more money, more

771
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 8: problem situation where the amount of pressure to win on

772
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 8: these coaches is huge and they're scared to have a

773
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Speaker 8: drink with their wife in front of everybody.

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Speaker 4: Petros, I want to ask you because when you brought

775
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Speaker 4: up LV, and with the recent news of Memphis trying

776
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: to jump into is a big twelve, and the Big

777
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: twelve armed them. UNLV is like that team that I

778
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: feel like if they try to join another conference and

779
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 4: try to leap up, it would maybe make some sense,

780
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: even the progress they've made and the money they've got and.

781
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Speaker 3: Just the venue in general.

782
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Speaker 4: But I'm just curious to get your thoughts on just

783
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: that whole situation, which I don't know if Memphis wanted

784
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: to become public, but it became public and it's probably

785
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: not good for Memphis, And I don't know if it's

786
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: good for college football.

787
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 8: Are they They're in the AAC now, yeah, and they're

788
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 8: trying to get out, and you know everybody's trying to

789
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 8: step up, and these teams that have money can do

790
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 8: it fast.

791
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: Out here on the West coast.

792
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 8: You know who was doing that, who has a lot

793
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 8: of money and you wouldn't even know it. Sacramento State,

794
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 8: like they've been making a push. Remember they interviewed Michael Vick.

795
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 8: They ended up hiring the guy that was coaching at

796
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 8: UNLV last year, a very innovative offensive coordinator, Brennan Marion

797
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 8: of the go go offense.

798
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 3: That he named when he was the coordinator at A

799
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: Howard Not a dance style.

800
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 8: It is actually a musical genre from Washington, DC, the

801
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 8: go go offense. And he's taken it to Sacramento State

802
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 8: and they have a lot of money and they're trying

803
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 8: to buy their way in and they got stiff armed

804
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 8: a couple times, but they're on the come up. One

805
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 8: that really can move is Texas State, right the Bobcats.

806
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 8: We saw them buy their way into the new PAC

807
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 8: twelve and step up in life. So a lot of

808
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 8: these people are trying it because if they have the

809
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 8: money and the backing behind them, and it's such a

810
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 8: crazy time and the getting is good, you can make

811
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 8: a run. Now when you try to buy your way in,

812
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 8: everybody else has to share revenue with you at some point,

813
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 8: right So that's probably a stumbling block. But I see

814
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 8: the same thing happening at a lot of places. The

815
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 8: UNLV situation, Brady is really interesting because, like I said,

816
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 8: everybody wants you at LV, but I think they have

817
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 8: to get out of this weird contractual thing where if

818
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 8: UNLV comes, they bring Reno and a lot of people

819
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 8: don't know, Like Reno's like a nine hour drive from

820
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 8: Las Vegas, and it's like the most desolate drive in

821
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 8: the history of mankind, and it's it's a little place that, Yeah,

822
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 8: they can have success and Colin Kaepernick and Chris Alt

823
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 8: and a lot of different good things have happened in Nevada,

824
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 8: but right now they're more of a basketball school and

825
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 8: they are a big hindrance to UNLV climbing up.

826
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: In the world of college football.

827
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 8: But hopefully we just have the games coming up soon,

828
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 8: which is happening, and we don't have to talk as

829
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 8: much about our very unsavory offseason.

830
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: So same state, completely different worlds between Reno and Vegas, basically.

831
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 8: I mean it's still I mean, I still find both

832
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 8: places to be starkly depressing, regardless of.

833
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, how was your drive out there?

834
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: Because you didn't want to take the flight so you drove.

835
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't if I do that again, Like I

836
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 8: hate flying, but the drive made me nervous too. I

837
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 8: was fine until I ran into a haboob or whatever

838
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 8: a monsoon on the way home. Oh did you really

839
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 8: around State line?

840
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? And it was.

841
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 8: It was frightening. A big somebody's trailer hitch flipped in

842
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 8: front of me. There was a big rig accident in

843
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 8: front of me, huge like crazy dust storms that look

844
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 8: like wow, that's like targeting my car as it crosses

845
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 8: the freeway.

846
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: And it was a lot.

847
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, heavy rain and one hundred and twenty degrees pretty gnarly.

848
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 8: So yeah, I might fly next time, considering that, I

849
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 8: think I'm going to travel a little bit more this

850
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 8: year for some of the games I do, so I'm

851
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 8: gonna have to buck up, maybe get some some xanax

852
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 8: er see the psychiatrist.

853
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, the old p on the road. Do you

854
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: know any of your schedule? Do you know?

855
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Speaker 3: We tentatively.

856
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 8: Tentatively they said I open at Washington with Colorado State,

857
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 8: which would be a great game. I love that Colorado

858
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 8: State quarterback Nicolosi. The guy that got into it was

859
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 8: should do he? And uh, Washington's got a new quarterback,

860
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 8: runs around a whole bunch, so we'll see it maybe.

861
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean.

862
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 8: I was told one year that I was going to

863
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 8: be Tim Branda's sideline analyst, and then it changed. So

864
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 8: whenever they tell you what you're doing a lot of

865
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 8: the time, unless you're Brady, you know on Big News.

866
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 4: Okay, easy, real quick, before we move on with whatever

867
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 4: you're gonna say next, I mean, is that a good thing?

868
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 3: Then? What? Well? I mean, you're not doing the sidelines

869
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: with Brando? No, that was like years ago. Oh okay,

870
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: I thought, you know.

871
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 8: I mean what I'm saying is things change. Sometimes they

872
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 8: tell you what you're gonna.

873
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: Do and then it changes.

874
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: Yes, but I'm just saying I already know what you're

875
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: gonna do, but well, sometimes sometimes they don't tell you

876
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: at all. Then things just kind of happen. You're like, right, yeah,

877
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: this is happening. Now you react to that.

878
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, great deal of confusion as the dominoes fall on

879
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 8: the college football season.

880
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, that that's what it looks like. Now.

881
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 8: It looks like maybe opening up in Seattle, which would

882
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 8: be great. I've been in Seattle since like last year

883
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 8: or two.

884
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 3: Years ago something.

885
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: Where are you with the whole college football expansion for

886
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 4: the playoff? Do you care at this point how many

887
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 4: teams do we have? Now we're twelve?

888
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: All right? How many do they want? Sixteen? At them all?

889
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 3: Make it seventy?

890
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 8: Like?

891
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: Who cares?

892
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 8: Right, They're just gonna I mean at this point we

893
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 8: have done such rapid change in the last seven eight

894
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 8: years that I mean they're just hitting the gas and

895
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 8: completely and totally retransforming the sport. And part of it

896
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 8: is because of what's happened the TV. The TV companies

897
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 8: have taken over, and that's where the money is, and

898
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 8: that's what's driving the revenue, and that's what's driving basically

899
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 8: the decision making. I think the biggest problem is the

900
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 8: TV network can't get along the way we thought they

901
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 8: might be able to.

902
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe five years.

903
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 8: Ago when a lot of this started, we thought the

904
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 8: TV networks would be able to kind of make decisions

905
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 8: together or help create a new super league or something

906
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 8: to kind of get away from the confusion of the NCAA.

907
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you.

908
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 8: Thought that, Brady, but I certainly thought that we would

909
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 8: have a little bit more uniformity. But I think Fox

910
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 8: and ESPN and the SEC and Big ten as their proxies,

911
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 8: see it so differently from each other and how they

912
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 8: want to go about this that we're kind of in

913
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 8: the same holding pattern as ever, at least we have

914
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 8: games to concentrate on and have fun with it in the.

915
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 3: Next few weeks.

916
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 4: That's what we've been kind of saying, right like, it's

917
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: kind of nice just to be able to have football

918
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 4: coming back soon as we have to.

919
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: Talk about all this stuff. Yeah, everything else, sude. I mean,

920
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: here's the biggest difference. The NFL.

921
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: It obviously dictates, you know, who's a part of it.

922
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: And obviously you know, you've had streaming services who.

923
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: Want to get in on this, and you know, Fox

924
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: and CBS and ABC, ESPN, NBC, they're all kind of

925
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: boxing them out for now. That's obviously could could very

926
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 4: well change in college football. There's not one kind of

927
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: unifying approach, you know, whereas the NFL can kind of

928
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: dictate almost to a lot of those who are you know,

929
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: showing them. And the problem is, I think that at

930
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 4: times we try to make the model of what college

931
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 4: football is after what the NFL is, and that's where

932
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 4: just it can't work that way, right.

933
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, yeah, that's kind of a college football is.

934
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 8: I remember ty Wellingham saying this to me in the

935
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 8: midst of a winless season. College football is great because

936
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 8: of the chaos. College football is great because we embrace

937
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 8: the chaos of young people with a tremendous amount of

938
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 8: responsible ability on and off the field. The hash marks

939
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 8: being where they are. It creates big plays, mistakes, fun, excitement, improbability.

940
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 8: That's the greatness of college football. When we're playing games

941
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 8: the off season, we have a lot of that chaos.

942
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 8: There's no game to celebrate all we have. Look, Brady,

943
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 8: you've done business at universities for years. You happen to

944
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 8: really love your alma mater, but you also know what

945
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 8: it's like to do business with colleges or universities.

946
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: Not easy.

947
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 8: It seems like they're very big on the outside, but

948
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 8: when you're on the inside, it feels like a very

949
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 8: small world of a bunch of very petty people trying

950
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 8: to pull rank or tenure on each other.

951
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: It's not a fun place to work.

952
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 8: You feel trapped when you work at one college or

953
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 8: one university, and it's kind of it just feels like

954
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 8: nobody can get out of their way in the chaos

955
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 8: of the off season. We just you know, the NFL

956
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 8: is a great example, but it's not fair to compare

957
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 8: college to it, because it is one entity with one

958
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 8: person in charge and a group of owners that create

959
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 8: what you know, other than Al Davis and the Raiders,

960
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 8: they create uniformity, and it makes it easy, and it

961
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 8: makes they know how to handle their off season and

962
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 8: so on and so forth. And you can say the

963
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 8: same even about leagues that aren't as celebrated. The NBA

964
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 8: does a better job with their off season. The MLB.

965
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 8: My god, here in town in LA. They throw off

966
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 8: season parties. They sign some Japanese guy who's a superstar.

967
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 8: The whole collective media comes out to meet a guy

968
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 8: named Roki Sasaki or Yoshi Yamamoto.

969
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 3: They do a better job. In the off season in.

970
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 8: College we don't have any agreement or uniformity, So our

971
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 8: off season is basically just a bunch of people suing

972
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 8: each other and politicians grandstanding, and teams trying to go

973
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 8: back on their word.

974
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing.

975
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 8: Like somebody pointed this out to me in football a

976
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 8: long time ago. It's like all anybody ever does in

977
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 8: college football is use this lip service about you know,

978
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 8: we're together, we're a team, we're all for one and

979
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 8: one for all, and we don't bend for anybody.

980
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: We keep our values and this and that, and we

981
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: keep our word.

982
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 8: And then most of college football is just trying to

983
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 8: get out of like a contract that you signed and

984
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 8: not keep your word. You get a kid who's verbally

985
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 8: committed to somebody, and you sit there and use all

986
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 8: these platitudes about being an honorable person, and then your

987
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 8: whole life is to try to get a seventeen year

988
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 8: old to go back on his word and commit to you.

989
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: You know. So there's a great deal of hypocrisy.

990
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 8: The biggest one, probably, Brady, is the fact that we

991
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 8: have this major, multi billion dollar sport somehow wrapped up

992
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 8: with it, I mean completely within the roots and totally

993
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 8: wrapped up as it's like unable to separate like a

994
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 8: tumor within our institutions of higher education and research.

995
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: And how did that happen.

996
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 8: It happened naturally, and it happened over you know, the

997
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 8: span of hundreds of years. But right now we're in

998
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 8: this hyper speed money grab and yeah, it's it's it's

999
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 8: harder and harder.

1000
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 3: To enjoy the season when the offseason sucks so much.

1001
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of the NFL petros I saw on your social media,

1002
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: you claim that your friend built the Packers new locker room.

1003
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's my friend, my friend Darren Vieira, who was

1004
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 8: the captain of a US baseball team. It's an amazing

1005
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 8: story because this guy wanted to be an architect, but

1006
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 8: he was a really good baseball player and his older brother,

1007
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 8: who I knew really well, was a pitch at USC.

1008
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: He was more of a position player. Ended up being

1009
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: the captain.

1010
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 8: But you can't be an architect and play baseball at

1011
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 8: USC or any sport because of when the classes are,

1012
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 8: you know, how some of that stuff goes. So he

1013
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 8: went he became like an English major, went through college.

1014
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 3: And then went to architecture school.

1015
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 8: When he was done at USC and he's built all

1016
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 8: k He built an amphitheater in Nashville. He built I

1017
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 8: think he's building fixing the redoing Baylor's baseball field by

1018
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 8: the by the river there on the strong arms of

1019
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 8: the Brasses in Waco.

1020
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

1021
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: He did the RAMS facility in uh. Where is that.

1022
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 8: Woodland Hills And he's doing and he just finished the

1023
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 8: Packers locker room. So he's been out in Lambeau a

1024
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 8: bunch and sending me videos of like watching a guy,

1025
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 8: you know, playing guitar at some beer bar, you know.

1026
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 8: But yeah, he's an old friend of mine, very proud

1027
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 8: of him. Darren Vieira is his name, and he is

1028
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 8: a Architecture is one of the great arts. And we

1029
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 8: have to build better buildings and more and more inspiring buildings,

1030
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.

1031
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: Like you look at like.

1032
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 8: Churches and buildings and things they built, you know, in

1033
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 8: the last century and before, and there's great inspiration and

1034
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 8: human endeavor in those things. And then all of a

1035
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 8: sudden they started building like these communist block looking things everywhere,

1036
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 8: and it's like, I don't want to live in a

1037
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 8: society like that. I want stuff to look cool. Like

1038
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 8: it did in the twenties and all these different styles

1039
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 8: of building. And uh, there's a great book about architecture

1040
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 8: and individual thought by an Rand called The fountain Head

1041
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 8: that always reminds me of my friend Darren whenever I

1042
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 8: see something new that he's built.

1043
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: But yes, thank you for mentioning me.

1044
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, anything out here you build is probably

1045
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: get end up with graffiti on the side of it,

1046
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 2: So there's always that time.

1047
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: No, No, we're in great shape here in La.

1048
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 8: We only have three like giant, like fifty story zombie

1049
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 8: death high rises right that Staple Center is in the

1050
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 8: shadow of And we're in great shape because we got

1051
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 8: the Olympics come in, and we got the the World

1052
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 8: Cup before that, and we got three zombie death towers.

1053
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 8: And then you know, every once in a while, like

1054
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 8: every night there's a street takeover and somebody's business gets

1055
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 8: looted and blown out.

1056
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: We're doing good. That sounds like a lot of fun.

1057
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 8: That's awesome out here. Yeah, I guess you didn't drive

1058
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 8: out to Vegas, Brady, but you know, on the way

1059
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 8: out you can see in prim Nevada that Buffalo Bills

1060
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 8: is closed now, Whiskey Petez is closed, Terribles is closed.

1061
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 8: You know, there's some real blown out buildings in Vegas,

1062
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 8: like toward the state line. And that's pretty much how

1063
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 8: we are in LA all the time. Blown out, blown

1064
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 8: out and closed and death and post apocalyptic.

1065
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: Is that how you described the Dodgers at this point

1066
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: in the year, Patrick, It's not good.

1067
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're not playing well. I mean the four hun

1068
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 8: earned runs last night, a bunch of airs. The other night,

1069
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 8: Kershaw was, you know, beating the bench with his with

1070
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 8: his glove. Uh, it's not good now. I think they're

1071
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 8: still in first place, but they're not playing good baseball.

1072
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 8: And you know, this happens in a baseball season, has

1073
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 8: a lot of ups and downs. But they're they're not

1074
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 8: They don't seem like they're on the same page, and

1075
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 8: they don't seem to have I don't know where the leadership,

1076
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 8: Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman and these guys, they're gonna

1077
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 8: have to find some kind of way. But we needed

1078
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 8: a little bit too, you know, we have to have

1079
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 8: every once in a while, you have to bring out

1080
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 8: the panic Brothers and hit the button and get the

1081
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 8: fans a little riled up, because otherwise the baseball season

1082
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 8: is not.

1083
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 3: Well, we have like we have a we have.

1084
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 8: A sound bite, you know, and you and then there's

1085
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 8: like a Pad O'Brien the imitation or padd O'Brien clip.

1086
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: Where he's like, I'm not parict I'm not pant.

1087
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 8: We would you have to and nobody wants to, Like

1088
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 8: you bring people on and they're like, it's gonna be fine.

1089
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 8: Don't you remember last year when it was like, yeah,

1090
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 8: but that's no fun. We got a panic you know,

1091
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 8: we gotta we gotta live for the moment. But uh,

1092
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 8: it's getting a little bit worse than the Panic Brothers.

1093
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 8: The Dodgers seem to be playing uninspired baseball, which is

1094
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 8: not a good thing at any time of the season.

1095
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: Maybe they're bored, you know, they're just waiting for the

1096
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: postseason to get here and hopefully things will turn back around.

1097
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's not a good way to look

1098
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: at it. Yes, agreed.

1099
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: Well, at least Otani's playing, well, there is that, so

1100
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: he's he's holding up his end of.

1101
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 8: The bargain and they're buying three hundred dollars jerseys. I

1102
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 8: guess that's all that really matters.

1103
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: Petros always appreciate it. You can get him on X

1104
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: at the Old p He is the co host of

1105
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: the Petros and Money Show, where the Panic Brothers can

1106
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: be heard on the Blowtorch a five day early the

1107
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: Fox College Football analysts. By the way, speaking of late,

1108
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: that Washington game is an eight o'clock kick. Yeah, so

1109
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 2: you you're gonna be up late for that one.

1110
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 8: There's twenty four hour restaurant at Seattle that's probably closed

1111
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 8: and blown out and looted called thirteen Coins. Yeah, I

1112
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 8: gotta head over to thirteen Coins after the game.

1113
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: I saw Jed Fish last night. He had just gotten

1114
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: in and I asked him. I said, I.

1115
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 3: Said, did you give your players, you know, curfew? He

1116
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: said no, and I'm like, oh, all right.

1117
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, but he goes, I did tell them

1118
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 4: that if you show up tomorrow there's any news about you.

1119
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: He's like, you've ruined your career.

1120
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 4: He's like, if you're dumb enough to do something that

1121
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 4: you'll get in trouble for with your one opportunity to

1122
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 4: have fun in a place like Las Vegas. So here's

1123
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 4: the difference, though, Petros, could you imagine having nil money

1124
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 4: at that age like the these kids do now they

1125
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: actually can go.

1126
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 3: And enjoy themselves.

1127
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 8: Yeah I can't, And no, no, you don't want to

1128
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 8: venture there, dude, I know, because none of us would

1129
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 8: even be in school because we'd all be thrown out.

1130
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 8: You know, do I have nil money on the internet

1131
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 8: still exists? Yes, yeah, I'm going back to the mental hospital.

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00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: Petros. We appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.