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Speaker 1: Alaska episode we're going to talk about.
Speaker 7: I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: So if you're if.
Speaker 1: You're new to the Bear Grease Surrender, we are going
Speaker 1: to talk about our last episode, which was a Alaska
Speaker 1: Stories episode, which was a new thing we've never done,
Speaker 1: which is a something I'm very interested in Alaska. To
Speaker 1: Missus land Bridge left, it's mister Landbridge, Josh Lambridge Spillmaker.
Speaker 2: Hello, good to see you.
Speaker 1: Josh. You're looking You're looking, You're looking.
Speaker 2: Spry like thank you. Been out on the river a
Speaker 2: lot lately. Fish biting good, It's it's I actually learned
Speaker 2: something the other day that I wasn't I was not
Speaker 2: aware of. I had a guide friend tell me a
Speaker 2: few months ago and he said, he said, you know
Speaker 2: when the when there's a full moon, he said, the
Speaker 2: fish won't bite. And I that had just blown through
Speaker 2: my memory and not even thought about it. And I
Speaker 2: went out with a good buddy of mine the other
Speaker 2: the other night, and uh, he's as good or better
Speaker 2: a fisherman than I am. And we put our lines
Speaker 2: in the water and we just expected to just tear
Speaker 2: it up. Went out after work and we fished for
Speaker 2: nearly three hours and didn't get a single bite. And
Speaker 2: then on the way like we went home with our
Speaker 2: tail between our legs. I caught one fish. I got one,
Speaker 2: but it was right.
Speaker 1: Did you try casting you're flying the other side of
Speaker 1: the boat.
Speaker 2: I tried casting everything, okay, So on the way home,
Speaker 2: I look up and I realize it's that it's that mega,
Speaker 2: that blue supermoon. And I went home and started doing
Speaker 2: some research and sure enough it severely effect.
Speaker 1: Get me started on supermoons. You've done it. What I
Speaker 1: think the whole Superman I have seen. I'm a young man,
Speaker 1: okay by this mini standards, and I have seen at
Speaker 1: least ten once in a lifetime supermoons. I mean, does
Speaker 1: the media in the world not hype up these supermoons
Speaker 1: like it's something you're never going to see the rest
Speaker 1: of your life.
Speaker 2: When you were a kid.
Speaker 5: Our final guest, Gary Believer, welcome back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did they talk about Superman you're a kid?
Speaker 8: Were upfront, honest, legitimate, They were just moving with folks
Speaker 8: just make stuff up.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: This is nonsense. This is something you should be behind.
Speaker 2: This is something this well, listen, I think there's a.
Speaker 3: Supermoon party, just so y'all know we're different here.
Speaker 6: And I literally invited people to meet me at a
Speaker 6: park to watch it. This, this special supermoon face timed
Speaker 6: everyone in my family so that we could all.
Speaker 1: See see it. And then there's the other thing is
Speaker 1: that the moon never looks as good in a video
Speaker 1: or photo.
Speaker 2: I will be looking at some incredible moon. Oh look
Speaker 2: at that white dot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know so, Dad. Dad used to tell me
Speaker 1: when we would be out and about and looking at
Speaker 1: land or whatever, and you would think, when you're in
Speaker 1: the mountains, everybody talks about views like a land and
Speaker 1: a house. Does it have a view? Is it beautiful?
Speaker 1: Is it aesthetically pleasing? And what would you used to say, Dad,
Speaker 1: when you remember a kid.
Speaker 8: We didn't have enough money to think about a view,
Speaker 8: that's right.
Speaker 2: We wanted a roof. Actually that's not true, but I
Speaker 2: mean we weren't. We have a lot of money.
Speaker 8: Well, but views just wasn't I mean, it wasn't a
Speaker 8: big deal, right. We wanted to be able to see
Speaker 8: our next meal.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, no, it made a lot of sense when
Speaker 1: you said that to me when I was young. Is
Speaker 1: that there was a time when aesthetics were not as
Speaker 1: big a deal. I mean people literally coming out of
Speaker 1: World War Two. Yeah, views the world is enamored with
Speaker 1: all this. You should elash marketing. They've got us around
Speaker 1: their fingers.
Speaker 3: Ridiculous. It didn't cost anyone anything. This is not a
Speaker 3: consumer thing.
Speaker 2: This, the supermoon is a conspiracy. It's conspira Maslow's model.
Speaker 8: We've put We've climbed that pyramid to the point where we.
Speaker 2: About this.
Speaker 8: And Judy said, hey, the supermoon is going on outside.
Speaker 8: And I didn't tell her, but.
Speaker 2: I like gun smoke better.
Speaker 8: But I went outside and I looked, and I thought,
Speaker 8: it looks like the same moon I say every night,
Speaker 8: maybe a little bigger.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure though that I missed.
Speaker 1: I'm joking. I love the Superman. I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of drama around the supermoon.
Speaker 1: But that brings me to my next segment of the podcast.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a monologue.
Speaker 1: Moon's Oh. Josh was talking about catch a fish with
Speaker 1: the Moon also children. I have spent forty three years
Speaker 1: studying the moon and people's people's reaction to it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I probably became aware of it when I was like
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen about how the moon affects everything. My best
Speaker 1: friends in high school, Nick Ram Cunningham, he his father
Speaker 1: owned a body shop, and I remember them saying when
Speaker 1: it's a I mean they they say it as if
Speaker 1: it's fact. When the full moon is out, business will
Speaker 1: be good because people will have rex.
Speaker 7: There was you know why, because they're looking at the moon.
Speaker 1: Well, that's just it.
Speaker 7: Why we don't know why?
Speaker 1: Why in.
Speaker 8: Banking you had crazy people come in and want to
Speaker 8: borrow money.
Speaker 3: A full moon in school?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: No, I'm serious. It's very serious.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean you'd get loan
Speaker 8: requests that it's just out, you know, it just wouldn't it, Okay.
Speaker 6: And they've been in schools that on full moons it's
Speaker 6: going to be a struggle.
Speaker 3: And when the full.
Speaker 6: Moon and Halloween hit or any holiday that includes a
Speaker 6: lot of candy, your next day is going to be awful.
Speaker 6: You're youre's just going to be a difficult it like.
Speaker 2: It for self fulfilling prophet.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's I don't think so.
Speaker 6: One time, so I get these discipline reports, and this
Speaker 6: is why I don't think it is h I get
Speaker 6: these discipline reports, and We've.
Speaker 2: Been studying my whole life.
Speaker 3: I've been studying.
Speaker 6: One time I got a discipline report and I was like,
Speaker 6: what on earth is going on? And someone just kind
Speaker 6: of randomly it was like out of this world. And
Speaker 6: someone said, hey, is it a full moon? And we
Speaker 6: looked and sure enough it was. That has happened to
Speaker 6: me over and over and over again, where you have
Speaker 6: these crazy It's like I tell my kids, I'm not superstitious, I.
Speaker 3: Am a little.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no doubt that the moon affects wildlife. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just no debate about it. But in white tailed
Speaker 1: deer research, there's a lot of new studies that because
Speaker 1: white tailed deer hunters have very strong philosophies about the moon,
Speaker 1: including me, and the research they show basically the moon
Speaker 1: doesn't really affect white tailed deer movement really. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's so much of human life that is anecdotal,
Speaker 1: biased confirmation of just things that we that we think
Speaker 1: or see. Like so if you're you drive every single
Speaker 1: night of your life, and stuff happens to you every
Speaker 1: single night. But when there's a full moon, there's this
Speaker 1: shining beacon and you remember stuff somehow. It imprints your
Speaker 1: mind that that happened on a full moon, that happened
Speaker 1: on a full moon, that happened on a full moon.
Speaker 1: And and pretty soon when the full moon comes up,
Speaker 1: you're looking for something bad to happen. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: like a self fulfilling prophecy. I do think there is
Speaker 1: a legitimate impact on.
Speaker 3: Do you take that dogs hunting on a full No, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't even go.
Speaker 7: And if you don't even know if it could be good, He's.
Speaker 3: Done it and it's worth it.
Speaker 1: I've used the I'm contradicting myself. I mean, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you what I believe. But deep down, like in the
Speaker 1: in the my heart and soul, I believe the moon
Speaker 1: is the most powerful thing. I mean, my brain is
Speaker 1: like telling me this can't be true. But I've coon
Speaker 1: hunted with such good dogs night after night after night
Speaker 1: after night. You turn them loose on a full moon
Speaker 1: night and just stuff happens.
Speaker 3: They get Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the last seven years, I have
Speaker 1: not coon purposely. If it's a full moon, I'm just
Speaker 1: like it and I don't even go. But then again,
Speaker 1: that's a self fulfilling prophecy in a way, because I
Speaker 1: don't even give it a chance to be good, because
Speaker 1: maybe every time that I didn't go.
Speaker 2: Brent Reeves talked about this, does he feel the same way?
Speaker 1: Every coon hunter feels the same way.
Speaker 3: By the way, where is print Reeves?
Speaker 2: Does you have a you know what Brent Reeves celebrity?
Speaker 7: Now you're saying, I mean, you've tried to.
Speaker 9: Get on here, you know, just a second, going back
Speaker 9: to your moon research with the white tail deer, did
Speaker 9: first Light use this research and the development of their
Speaker 9: new white tail.
Speaker 1: Gear that well, since you brought it up, very good,
Speaker 1: first Light first Light does have I mentioned to my
Speaker 1: team here that I wanted to talk about first Light
Speaker 1: white tail gear. First Light has made a big, big
Speaker 1: swing at the white tail world, making full lines of
Speaker 1: white tail kits, and they even have stuff that's made
Speaker 1: for people hunting in hot, humid weather in the Southeast.
Speaker 1: And so it's it's September, it's time you ought to
Speaker 1: check out first Light for your white tail hunting and
Speaker 1: first Light has a pattern called Specter. It's designed for
Speaker 1: tree stand whitetail hunting. A percentage of every sale of
Speaker 1: Specter goes to a percentage of that sale goes to
Speaker 1: the National Deer Alliance, So they I don't want to
Speaker 1: say how much, but I want to say upwards of
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars has gone to to the NBA
Speaker 1: from First Light Specter sales.
Speaker 3: Is that publicly knowable information?
Speaker 1: I don't know it is now, I guess, but that
Speaker 1: brings up another interesting point the National Deer Alliance. Brent
Speaker 1: reeves he's too famous to be on the beargery surrender anymore,
Speaker 1: but he's not too famous to go to the premiere
Speaker 1: of a new documentary film called Wildtail. It's a documentary
Speaker 1: about the it's called the country's most successful wildlife conservation
Speaker 1: story and it's a documentary about the whitetail deer. And
Speaker 1: last night Brent and I went to Little Rock and
Speaker 1: Brent was the MC of this like sports coat of
Speaker 1: Brent and I. We thought we were going to like
Speaker 1: a hunting event, and we show up there and it's
Speaker 1: like people in like sports coats or DIRVS suits for
Speaker 1: their dad and surprise, and I told Brent to wear
Speaker 1: his overalls.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 1: I was ashamed of him. The first time I've seen
Speaker 1: him in just like regular pants in a while. But no,
Speaker 1: Brent MC the event. He did a great job. Our
Speaker 1: friend Austin Booth was there. Austin Booth, the director of
Speaker 1: the Game to Fish, introduced everybody. The producer of the
Speaker 1: film from Florida that made that. They've spent eighteen months
Speaker 1: making this documentary. Film has an incredible amount of people
Speaker 1: on it. I would say there's upwards of twenty people.
Speaker 1: It's a really I like the film. It's a different
Speaker 1: kind of documentary than I've ever seen in some ways,
Speaker 1: like the style of it is. Its very fast paced,
Speaker 1: very information driven, very engaging. It's but it tells the
Speaker 1: whole story of the American white tail deer and how
Speaker 1: you know, there used to not be a lot of deer.
Speaker 1: Now there's more deer than we've ever had since since
Speaker 1: even pre European settlement. There's more white tail deer. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so and then the Kip Adams, one of the
Speaker 1: main guys that the National Deer Association, came in from
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and so we all watched the film in this
Speaker 1: big auditorium and it was really neat. But a cool
Speaker 1: part of that film, Dad, is that me and Steve
Speaker 1: Ranella are on it quite a bit.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They interviewed me a year ago here about deer hunting
Speaker 1: and they did a good job.
Speaker 7: Really you remember that or were you surprised when it
Speaker 7: came up?
Speaker 1: I knew I remembered it. I did remember it. I
Speaker 1: didn't remember what I said, but I did remember it.
Speaker 8: So you think they did a good job because they
Speaker 8: picked you in steak could be confirmation?
Speaker 2: Could just speak completely? Did you watch it and have regrets?
Speaker 1: Was there a full moon last night?
Speaker 8: He did our render boy? Get that gig man? I
Speaker 8: mean they just heard his voice and said he's a natural.
Speaker 8: We want him to narrate this thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Could we call him either render Boy or either.
Speaker 2: Name?
Speaker 5: Yeah, render boy.
Speaker 1: He didn't even come up here anymore, Old Brent. That's funny. No,
Speaker 1: he did a great job.
Speaker 5: Is going to be available to watch elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they're doing a film tour all across the country. Currently,
Speaker 1: there's five cities that it's going to be in, but
Speaker 1: they're there. They've got plans for how it's going to
Speaker 1: roll out and eventually the public would be able to
Speaker 1: watch it. Great, but it was a good film. It's
Speaker 1: really well put together, very the style of it was unique.
Speaker 11: I'm I'm taken by Colby based on your question, and
Speaker 11: Clay got to watch the film last night. Remember earlier
Speaker 11: he was talking about that triangle. He was like the
Speaker 11: top of the pyramid and the rest of us or
Speaker 11: the base.
Speaker 7: So we're the bass.
Speaker 11: The people are going to get to watch that film
Speaker 11: at some point, Yeah, but not yet.
Speaker 1: Well, at some point, Christy, at some point you can
Speaker 1: watch it. So that was cool.
Speaker 3: When you have in your hand nude.
Speaker 1: I have a a Phelps acre and grunner in my hands.
Speaker 2: Like a that's like worth ten million dollars. We just
Speaker 2: can't even get one.
Speaker 1: These went up for sale on phelps website and they
Speaker 1: sold out in about twenty four hours. They're going to
Speaker 1: make some more in November, but not very many. The
Speaker 1: reason that they can't just whip them up is because
Speaker 1: that that call is made of white oak. One of
Speaker 1: my buddies, Scott Brown, he bought one and he he
Speaker 1: called me and it's going to give me a hard
Speaker 1: time for cutting down white oak trees to make grunt.
Speaker 5: Calls a good point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like no, it's it's made of it's made
Speaker 1: of white oak. And uh so they just only have
Speaker 1: they only had so much wood. But then mainly the
Speaker 1: acrylic guts of that call, the actual enters of the call,
Speaker 1: they have to order that stuff and has to be
Speaker 1: machined and a quality grunt call there, any kind of
Speaker 1: quality call is usually going to be acrylic, whether it's
Speaker 1: a duck call or something. So that's not plastic, that's
Speaker 1: machined acrylic.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, wow, and uh but.
Speaker 1: This is that inhale exhale call, which yeah, I've talked about.
Speaker 2: Stop taunting. So because we can't get it, well, I'm
Speaker 2: just saying I wanted to think every America.
Speaker 1: I wanted to thank everybody for for coming to thee.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're how about that coonskin?
Speaker 1: Yes, and we put a coon skin cap on the
Speaker 1: auction house Meat Eater Auction House of Audities, what's the
Speaker 1: meat Eater Auction House of Oddities, which is set up
Speaker 1: to fund They were trying to buy a piece of
Speaker 1: land that was going to open up public access. And
Speaker 1: Ryan Callahan leads that this was a they have specific
Speaker 1: initiatives and they were trying to raise one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars, and they raised way more than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: way more than that. It's all public knowledge. You could
Speaker 1: you could look on and see how much they.
Speaker 3: Want for skin.
Speaker 1: For twenty five hundred dollars?
Speaker 2: Did missus Christy wearing it?
Speaker 3: Sorry Christy?
Speaker 2: And I wasn't gonna tell anybody. Yeah that that hat,
Speaker 2: that's a nice hat. That's somebody's going to barkin.
Speaker 7: Work on a full moon. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: If you could could could get some coons on a
Speaker 2: full moon, they would be priceless.
Speaker 1: It be worth even more. Yeah, thank you for whoever
Speaker 1: bought that. Yeah, thank you guys. I mean there was
Speaker 1: some incredibly generous bids on there. Did you see how
Speaker 1: much the dinner with Steven went for? Yes, dinner with Steve,
Speaker 1: dinner for four with Stevello's house twelve k okay, twenty
Speaker 1: five k more?
Speaker 3: What? This is a game that Barline get to play
Speaker 3: every day when he.
Speaker 2: I think I saw it.
Speaker 1: I think I saw it for fifty grand. Somebody paid
Speaker 1: fifty grand for what for Stephen Neill's house, And clearly
Speaker 1: it was someone who was wanting to make a Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was somebody who who was
Speaker 1: serious about conservation wanted to make a donation and was
Speaker 1: just that's what the auction house audities is about, is
Speaker 1: people being generous for land access and different stuff. So
Speaker 1: that's really cool when everybody video was really proud. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Better make it good.
Speaker 2: Gold Leaf.
Speaker 1: You remember I had a lot to say on this
Speaker 1: podcast this week I got to watch.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was able to see in advance of the of
Speaker 1: the release the movie The Blind about Phil Robertson the
Speaker 1: Duck Commander.
Speaker 2: Is it like, what's what? Is it like an autobiography?
Speaker 1: It's like a Hollywood movie?
Speaker 2: What do they call it a biopic?
Speaker 6: It's wait, wait, wait, it's a Hollywood movie. Does that
Speaker 6: mean it's dramatized?
Speaker 1: When when I say Hollywood, I don't mean it was
Speaker 1: shot in Hollywood. I just mean it is a It
Speaker 1: is a movie. It's a cinematic, like well done movie
Speaker 1: that could play on the big screen.
Speaker 3: Is there someone playing Phil that's correct?
Speaker 2: Drama?
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm sure there's drama in that story too.
Speaker 1: I've heard you know, I've never met the Robertsons. I
Speaker 1: never have, but Phil Robertson's hard not to respect. I mean,
Speaker 1: he for real is I mean, he's he's the real deal.
Speaker 1: And then I've heard bits. I'm familiar with their story
Speaker 1: to some degree. But when you watch the movie, you
Speaker 1: see how wild it really was. Like Phil Robertson was
Speaker 1: was was a wild man. He played he had a
Speaker 1: rough upbringing. You know, it shows all this in the movie.
Speaker 1: He had a he had a rough upbringing down in Louisiana,
Speaker 1: and he but but he ended up going to college
Speaker 1: on a football college scholarship and and and started over Terry.
Speaker 2: Terry, Yeah, he was Terry Bradshaw was the backup court. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so they showed that and then and then
Speaker 1: Phil doesn't really want to play football and doesn't play
Speaker 1: his senior year and start it's duck hunting. And but
Speaker 1: and after that his life kind of spirals, spirals pretty
Speaker 1: hard and gets involved in some pretty rough stuff. And
Speaker 1: it shows a lot, it really does it. They were
Speaker 1: candid on on what they showed. And but then he
Speaker 1: he well, I don't want to give away the movie,
Speaker 1: but it's, uh, it was good. I like those guys
Speaker 1: and it but the movie comes out in late September.
Speaker 1: I want to say, can somebody look up.
Speaker 7: Look at like on the big screen in the theaters.
Speaker 1: They're screening it in certain cities. But the movie is
Speaker 1: called The Blind and uh yeah, it's really good, really good.
Speaker 1: The Robertson's are fils A. He's a he's a man
Speaker 1: of faith for sure, a believer and they're really strong, outspoken,
Speaker 1: outspoken believers. September twenty eighth.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cool Robertson.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Well what did you guys think of the Alaska Stories podcast?
Speaker 7: Quite entertaining?
Speaker 2: I like it. Dad, Why don't you?
Speaker 1: Why don't you? Why don't you tell the story that
Speaker 1: you were going to tell? Okay, me and Dad have
Speaker 1: a story, yeah, near death experience.
Speaker 8: Uh, we were going to Alaska, Canada, of Alaska, Canada
Speaker 8: to it when we.
Speaker 2: Do our Canada stories. Why wouldn't that.
Speaker 1: Canada is a wild, wooly place. But you can't have
Speaker 1: a Canada story. You can't even tell a story here
Speaker 1: in lie a little bit. You get caught immediately. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do that. I'm ninety two years old,
Speaker 1: my brain's about half right. But we were going to Canada,
Speaker 1: I guess on your first bear.
Speaker 8: Hunt sort of out of the country, and uh, anyway,
Speaker 8: we we were on a secondary fly little puddle jumper,
Speaker 8: wasn't it.
Speaker 1: M h in uh Air Canada all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: a plane with maybe like thirty people on smart plan.
Speaker 8: It wasn't a little bit of guy. But so I'm
Speaker 8: I'm just sitting there. I'm on the aisle and claysed
Speaker 8: next to the window. I noticed he's looking out the
Speaker 8: window all the time. And finally he says, Dad, there's
Speaker 8: something wrong. His plane's been circling now several times over
Speaker 8: around the airport or city or something. And about that
Speaker 8: time a Stuurartis came on and goes, things aren't going well.
Speaker 1: You are having a nice afternoon for us, an let
Speaker 1: me let me tell I don't want to hijack your story,
Speaker 1: but it was interesting. We took off, you know, straight
Speaker 1: off the runway, and then the plane started the bank,
Speaker 1: which is common with a plane. You know that they
Speaker 1: can only go one of two directions on a runway,
Speaker 1: and if you're going a different direction plane, that's the turn.
Speaker 1: And so the plane banked and you kind of felt
Speaker 1: it bank and it just stayed banked for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: They could never huh, And so you know, I was like,
Speaker 1: but it was it was just it was subtle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I was like, we're going in circles. And after
Speaker 1: like the second time, I was like, we're circling.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was it's pretty nat you observed that.
Speaker 8: And uh so the stewardess came on and you know,
Speaker 8: she handled it real well. I don't want to scare
Speaker 8: you all of death, but we're about to die. But
Speaker 8: she said, look, we've got some problems with our landing gear,
Speaker 8: and uh this is we're going to take this real serious.
Speaker 2: You know we're not gonna So.
Speaker 8: Would you, young man, would you handle that door? This
Speaker 8: is what you do? This guy, would you handle this?
Speaker 8: Get your oxygen down and put your head between your legs.
Speaker 8: And so she went through the whole deal of how
Speaker 8: how we were going to handle this crash. I mean,
Speaker 8: the landing gear wouldn't come down at least one leg
Speaker 8: of it. And so what I found interesting was here,
Speaker 8: I am an older guy, I got my family raised,
Speaker 8: and I'm thinking, well, Lord, make it quick. You know,
Speaker 8: I don't mind going, but you know, I'd.
Speaker 2: Hate to just suffer real bad.
Speaker 8: But Clay's young, he's got a family, he's got a wife,
Speaker 8: he's got a lot of responsibilities, so he had a
Speaker 8: few more prayer requests than I did. And Uh, anyway,
Speaker 8: how did it end up?
Speaker 2: Well? So we landed this dad and I jumped out.
Speaker 1: The stewardess came on and she told us what was
Speaker 1: going on, and what it was is that the breaks
Speaker 1: of the landing gear didn't work okay, and they were
Speaker 1: anticipating a potential crash on the landing and the stewardess
Speaker 1: she said, so we are preparing for a crash landing.
Speaker 1: This is what we would do if there's a crash landing.
Speaker 1: And I mean it was like it wasn't a drill.
Speaker 1: And from the time we started our descent.
Speaker 2: Did you is this over where you took off?
Speaker 1: Yes, it was like apparently they took off and everything
Speaker 1: was okay, and when they went to pull the landing
Speaker 1: gear back up, it wouldn't pull back up. And I
Speaker 1: just remember the problem was is that there were no
Speaker 1: brakes on the landing gear, so you were just going
Speaker 1: to come in super hot and potentially like burn the
Speaker 1: rubber off the tires, spark up on the plane. They
Speaker 1: had fire trucks. So we circle circle forever for probably
Speaker 1: an hour because they were trying to run the fuel
Speaker 1: out of the plane, and so they run all the
Speaker 1: fuel out of the plane and then when we go
Speaker 1: down to land. But from the time we start to
Speaker 1: descend that that stewardess that Eric Canada.
Speaker 2: Was taught to yell.
Speaker 1: What did she yell? She eld non stop, like a
Speaker 1: phrase like.
Speaker 7: Cover your head, watch your feet, We're gonna give you
Speaker 7: some good deed.
Speaker 2: I don't know what she.
Speaker 1: But but we had our heads down and she's going
Speaker 1: It wasn't a ratic it was she was screaming something
Speaker 1: that she was supposed to yell at us, And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we really thought this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: crash landing. We did, and they had fire trucks all
Speaker 1: down the air strip and uh, I just remember it
Speaker 1: was just a rough, fast landing. Hey, you know, let
Speaker 1: me let me add one thing about that trip. I
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of fun.
Speaker 8: As the daddy, we bear hunted and we couldn't get
Speaker 8: a bear, and our guide couldn't put us on a bear.
Speaker 8: And finally Clay said, would it be any problem if
Speaker 8: I went back to this other pasture we were on
Speaker 8: And the guy said, well, yeah, you can go back
Speaker 8: over there within about five minutes he killed a pretty
Speaker 8: good bear with an amazing shot with his bow.
Speaker 2: So I mean he did his own guide work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good hunt. That was that bear
Speaker 1: right up there, us sitting right up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd seen it. We'd seen a bear out in
Speaker 1: an oat field the first day and I liked the
Speaker 1: spot and we were having trouble and we never went
Speaker 1: back there, and I just had a feeling and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: take me back over there and just let me out
Speaker 1: of the truck. And he was like okay, and he
Speaker 1: pulled me up on the county road and we had
Speaker 1: permission to hunt this place. And I jumped a barber
Speaker 1: our fence, ran out into this oat field, came around
Speaker 1: a corner. There's a bear in the middle of this oatfield,
Speaker 1: laying on its belly like right at dark, shoveling oats
Speaker 1: in its mouth. And uh, and I'd been shooting my
Speaker 1: Matthew's d x T and uh killed a bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was a good That was a great trip, thanks dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was that was the time we almost crashed.
Speaker 2: Josh.
Speaker 1: If you ever had any near death experiences trying to
Speaker 1: think in Canada.
Speaker 2: I have not in Canada, man. But I was never
Speaker 2: much of a daredevil, you know, I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't drive my car fast and didn't.
Speaker 2: But one thing I'd love to do that was that
Speaker 2: was life threatening. And then but we used to, Man,
Speaker 2: we used to love to jump off bluffs when I
Speaker 2: was a teenager and we would go to the we
Speaker 2: would go to the lake and jump off bluffs. But
Speaker 2: we'd go to the river and jump off bluffs too.
Speaker 2: And there's a spot that it was like it had
Speaker 2: a it had a ah. We all called it skull
Speaker 2: rock because it kind of looked like a like a school.
Speaker 2: It was forty three feet high, but you had to
Speaker 2: hit a hole that was about I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: ten foot around and when you hit the water, you
Speaker 2: had to ball up because you would still hit the bottom.
Speaker 2: And man, we used to do that. It was thrilling
Speaker 2: to me. But I look back on it now and
Speaker 2: I'm like, God, that was stupid. Yeah, And we used
Speaker 2: to swim up in the tunnels against the current that
Speaker 2: you couldn't turn around and yew, and I just think
Speaker 2: if the slightest little thing went wrong. But I love
Speaker 2: being in the water. Back then, and I know you
Speaker 2: had you had a close call in the water, but man,
Speaker 2: we we just we loved doing stupid stuff in the water.
Speaker 2: So I look back and think many of those could
Speaker 2: have been life threatening, but we.
Speaker 1: Just Christy, have you ever had a near death experience
Speaker 1: in Canada or Alaska?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I have not anywhere else.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 11: I think the only story I would tell, and really
Speaker 11: just to make fun of myself, is that there was
Speaker 11: a summer we were hiking and one of the people
Speaker 11: with us, I was actually with Clay and mister Newcombe
Speaker 11: on this hiking trip, screams ahead of us this young
Speaker 11: girl and finds this huge timber rattler. Do you remember, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 11: so Clay Clay identifies it.
Speaker 7: It's a thirty year old you know what.
Speaker 1: It was the biggest timber ratler I've ever seen person
Speaker 1: really alive, Bigger than that. No, No, I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't see that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, you didn't see it alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So it was a super intense hike that had like
Speaker 6: it has the biggest to drop off.
Speaker 3: So you're kind of unnerved anyway, just doing that with kids.
Speaker 7: Right, So we did that.
Speaker 11: Like a month later, we're on a camping trip and
Speaker 11: we're out with your brother Misty. We walk by there's
Speaker 11: a rattle snake. I highly respect the rattle snak because
Speaker 11: it tells you I'm here, get out of my way.
Speaker 11: So rattlesnake. Like two weeks after that, Josh and I
Speaker 11: decide to go hiking in Fayetteville. Mount Kestler were up there,
Speaker 11: and I am terrified of snakes and I've had these
Speaker 11: two experiences. And I hear this sound it's a gun,
Speaker 11: and I jump up on a rock and just start screaming.
Speaker 7: And Josh is like for.
Speaker 2: The Lord to help her.
Speaker 11: He's crying out to Jesus in these moments. And I'm
Speaker 11: on there and I was like snake roll and Josh
Speaker 11: is just looking at me like I'm insane. And a
Speaker 11: half a second later, this man was on a mountain
Speaker 11: bike that is clicking.
Speaker 2: It was hub.
Speaker 11: Triggering PTSD inside of me. Anyway, No, I've not had
Speaker 11: any near and death experiences.
Speaker 2: That her near death experience was that she was within
Speaker 2: sixty feet of her timber rattler.
Speaker 6: Well, actually I think her death experience is that she
Speaker 6: was within sixty feet of a mountain.
Speaker 1: But that was exactly what would you say your nearest
Speaker 1: death nearest to death experience has been.
Speaker 2: You know, I just hadn't had any safe Vietnam.
Speaker 8: Vietnam, Oh my goodness, Yeah, that would Vietnam. Oh you know,
Speaker 8: I really wouldn't. I mean, you can anybody can die
Speaker 8: in Vietnam. But I didn't get put in crazy situations.
Speaker 8: I was transferred to within just like twenty miles of
Speaker 8: the DMZ with a bunch of Marines, and uh, my
Speaker 8: buddy down at middle part of Vietnam called around and
Speaker 8: had me transferred down to him. And he was getting
Speaker 8: hit every night and shell.
Speaker 2: In the base, and I was mad at him. Man.
Speaker 8: I mean I got off the plane and started looking
Speaker 8: for people with uh faded fatigues. I'm thinking, man, you
Speaker 8: can't survive in fu by uh. And my mother prayed
Speaker 8: every night for me. And I mean once I stepped
Speaker 8: in fu By, a rocket never hit for a year. Really,
Speaker 8: Quang Tree just got that's where you were. That's where
Speaker 8: I was, the Marines base, right on the DMZ, and
Speaker 8: it got hit all the time.
Speaker 1: Now, I've never heard you tell that story quite like that,
Speaker 1: or I don't remember it that tight and concise that.
Speaker 2: Hey, it was serious. I was mad. My best friend.
Speaker 8: In fact, I spent the day with him yesterday in
Speaker 8: Little Rock and uh.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even hardly speak to him.
Speaker 8: I said, seriously, you've been You've got with your CEO
Speaker 8: and got me moved down here into a pit. That's
Speaker 8: chances us getting out of here slim and none in
Speaker 8: an area rocket hit, not even one.
Speaker 2: You know, So it's pretty it's pretty fun.
Speaker 8: But hey, hey, while we're talking about Vietnam, I wanted
Speaker 8: to I think I've done this. But the guy when
Speaker 8: you said thanks to the people that bought that hat
Speaker 8: made me think of this, the guy that that looked
Speaker 8: up my old buddy. Yes, I hope he's listening, and uh,
Speaker 8: we got a hold of him, had a great reunion
Speaker 8: and probably going to go to Florida and seeing.
Speaker 1: So Dad talked about I mean you had to say
Speaker 1: his name, didn't it. Yeah, Quinn Quin. Yeah, Dad talked
Speaker 1: about Quint on one of the podcasts, and Quent was
Speaker 1: this guy they knew in Vietnam, lost touch with him,
Speaker 1: thought he was dead. I mean, yeah, he hear that
Speaker 1: he was dead. They just assumed he was dead and
Speaker 1: then forty years passes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we looked for him. We looked for him
Speaker 2: him almost every few years. You know, we we just
Speaker 2: whatever you need.
Speaker 1: Tod, this buddy that got him into the war zone
Speaker 1: down there, always wondered what happened to Quint. And I've
Speaker 1: heard Dad talk about Quint my whole life, and he
Speaker 1: always says, we figure he's dead. Well, a Bear Grease
Speaker 1: podcast listener who has some incredible research powers. For real,
Speaker 1: with his job, he has wink wink, he could know
Speaker 1: about anything you wanted to know. He Uh, legally, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not like an undercover deal. He found Quin reached
Speaker 1: out to me and said, hey, here's that guy's phone number.
Speaker 1: Pretty much, Yeah, I love and I think he I
Speaker 1: can't remember the details it was. It was all within
Speaker 1: the boundaries of something that was ethical, and he may
Speaker 1: have even reached out to that lady. I think he
Speaker 1: reached out to Quin's daughter and said, hey, do you
Speaker 1: mind if I give your you know this he reach
Speaker 1: he talked to her because I contacted her first.
Speaker 8: Okay, in fact, I was the one that contacted her,
Speaker 8: even though Quentin Sears were the really like brothers and uh, anyway,
Speaker 8: he had a real nice daughter and she was just
Speaker 8: excited that we'd called her, and yeah, so anyway, it's
Speaker 8: pretty wild.
Speaker 2: In fact, she just sent a picture of the three of.
Speaker 8: Us sears yesterday. He got it a few days ago
Speaker 8: he sent me that email one.
Speaker 1: So anyway, thank you, Kobe near death experience.
Speaker 5: I got a couple. You want, longer win or shorter one?
Speaker 1: Well, let's see how good they are? Why don't you
Speaker 1: great them for me? And great them on the scale
Speaker 1: of one to ten? How good are they?
Speaker 5: The longer one is the better one? Okay, the shorter
Speaker 5: and it involves duck hunting. Okay, shorter one is squirrel.
Speaker 5: Can't wait? No, the long one is squirrel can't shorter
Speaker 5: win is duck hunt.
Speaker 1: Well, just take us right to the good stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, squirrel camp.
Speaker 10: So growing up, my dad just like knows the river
Speaker 10: like back and forth, like always on it when I
Speaker 10: was born, Like, he was a commercial fisherman and so
Speaker 10: he met a lot of characters. And so at one
Speaker 10: point in time, every year he would go to squirrel camp.
Speaker 10: And I was excited. I get to get to leave. Scorely,
Speaker 10: we're gonna go to squirrel camp. We're gonna camp out
Speaker 10: with all these guys, this great stuff. But we're mainly
Speaker 10: just fishing. But we camp out on this bluff on
Speaker 10: the on the river and they had made this big
Speaker 10: they constructed this big overhang to put all the tents
Speaker 10: under that was made with bamboo. And then they show
Speaker 10: me what happens whenever you put bamboo inside of a fire.
Speaker 10: You know, it just like pops, real loud. And I'm
Speaker 10: in like third grade, and so there's this drop off
Speaker 10: that uh I it was about fifteen feet of a
Speaker 10: drop off, is kind of like a pre steep grade.
Speaker 10: And so that night there was a fire about six
Speaker 10: feet from that drop off. All the guys, the grown
Speaker 10: guys were over here over here talking and so I'm
Speaker 10: just throwing bamboo in there, and I'm just like fourth
Speaker 10: of July over here, just like popping and everything and
Speaker 10: it's just great. And so, you know, growing up with fireworks,
Speaker 10: you just really feel like you understand certain principles in life,
Speaker 10: like the law of the dud where you throw it,
Speaker 10: you know, light one and it just doesn't go off
Speaker 10: the dud the dud. And so I was like, I
Speaker 10: threw this piece of bamboo in there and nothing, and
Speaker 10: I'm like, dude, where's the next one? And I go
Speaker 10: to throw it in there, and that thing just explodes
Speaker 10: with fury and and got all these embers just popping out,
Speaker 10: and to me, it could have been like an atomic bomb,
Speaker 10: Like you know, it just seems huge. I took one
Speaker 10: step back too far and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 10: just fall off this thing. And so like I'm just
Speaker 10: sliding down it and I'm just grabbing, trying to grab
Speaker 10: a hold of whatever I could.
Speaker 5: And before that it's night. It's at night.
Speaker 1: Nobody and nobody's seen you.
Speaker 10: Fall No, no, no, And before then it's a big river.
Speaker 10: And before then, my dad had told me to put
Speaker 10: a life jacket on if I was going to keep
Speaker 10: doing that, and I was.
Speaker 5: I was obedient.
Speaker 10: I was like, all right, all right, He's like you
Speaker 10: either stop doing that or you put a life jacket on.
Speaker 10: So I had a life jacket on.
Speaker 1: So he could see the threat that like you'll fall
Speaker 1: off and sitting like a little creek. This is like
Speaker 1: the red river. This is a sofa river, like a huge, big, nasty,
Speaker 1: muddy river.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And so like I'm sliding down and I'm just
Speaker 10: grabbing whatever I can and then I land in the
Speaker 10: water on my back, and uh, there's a little chef
Speaker 10: there that's probably about three foot wide, and uh, there
Speaker 10: was just enough water where I couldn't turn over, so
Speaker 10: I was like a turtle well in his back.
Speaker 5: I just remember how.
Speaker 10: Big the moon was. And then anyways, at the same time,
Speaker 10: there was a boat going down the river and so
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, there's these waves just like coming
Speaker 10: over me, and I'm just like freaking out.
Speaker 5: I was like, is this how this happens?
Speaker 10: And I remember like yeah, and then I remember like
Speaker 10: just a silhouette of a guy just like full dive
Speaker 10: off of it and he lands like maybe like five
Speaker 10: feet to my right.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, he jumped off.
Speaker 1: He jumped off.
Speaker 10: Yeah, earlier that day he had like jumped out of
Speaker 10: the boat and like throw me some I recip he
Speaker 10: just wanted to take a bath and stuff.
Speaker 5: So like just love the water.
Speaker 10: And then I see another figure come over and just
Speaker 10: like come down at like the silver surfer, you know,
Speaker 10: and they reached me at the same time, and so uh,
Speaker 10: and then my dad had always told me like growing up,
Speaker 10: whenever I did in trouble or I was really getting
Speaker 10: close to getting in trouble, he'd be like, boy, I'm
Speaker 10: on planting a boot, so he reached They reached me
Speaker 10: at the same time. My dad grabs me and the
Speaker 10: only way to get me up is he would lift
Speaker 10: and then he would kick me. And so I thought
Speaker 10: he had finally planted a boot.
Speaker 2: That was good. I'd say that was a strong, Yeah,
Speaker 2: very good, eight and a half, maybe even a nine
Speaker 2: with the supermoon.
Speaker 1: Com that's good. That's good, Misty. Near death.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't really have any near death experience.
Speaker 6: My parents rode motorcycles one time, I mean, like punchline,
Speaker 6: we hit a deer on a motorcycle.
Speaker 1: You know, that was good.
Speaker 6: But I think I think I mainly just watched my
Speaker 6: brothers do stupid things and just thought I'm not going
Speaker 6: to do that, and it's good.
Speaker 8: Just makes me real good. That's really good. I was
Speaker 8: always afraid to get too risky. M M drove slow and.
Speaker 6: That drives actually probably driving. It is probably the nearest death.
Speaker 1: When I was first, when I was dating Misty, she
Speaker 1: was young then I was young too, and uh, she
Speaker 1: would come and tell me. She'd be like, man, I
Speaker 1: was driving down the road today and the carts to
Speaker 1: the three six, I mean for real, like that happened,
Speaker 1: and I just said what and she was like yeah
Speaker 1: at the wheel and the road was wet, and it
Speaker 1: just like zip just did like a three six.
Speaker 7: I mean, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: And I just remember being like, this isn't okay. You've
Speaker 1: got to learn how to drive.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 8: The Geo tracker she had was quite entertaining, and I
Speaker 8: I mean there was not a spot on there that
Speaker 8: didn't look like somebody beat it up with a hammer.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 2: I learned Geo Metro and we used to pick it
Speaker 2: up and put it on the sidewalk. You know.
Speaker 6: She lasted a long time. Everyone kind of made fun
Speaker 6: of it because we got it new and it looked fine.
Speaker 6: I mean, Geo Metros are like fancy cars. But we
Speaker 6: paid for our own cars so I can afford it.
Speaker 6: And I was super proud of it. I beat that thing.
Speaker 6: I mean like I was super rough on.
Speaker 1: We when we got married, we ended up. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: drove it.
Speaker 3: We d.
Speaker 1: It was giving it to my brother to Zach, I
Speaker 1: do remember, and we gave it to him as a
Speaker 1: gift and one day I remember we were he was
Speaker 1: driving it and he said, hey, Clay, it was it
Speaker 1: was kind of like thanks for the car, did you
Speaker 1: know it'll do this, and the steering wheel would pull
Speaker 1: off of it. Yeah. Yeah, you could just like just
Speaker 1: the slightest you know, you had to get it lyed
Speaker 1: just right, but just a little jerk on the steering wheel,
Speaker 1: and the steering whel w had completely come off, and
Speaker 1: then you could put it back on like in a
Speaker 1: in a flash. But and there was just this little
Speaker 1: like alan head back in there.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: The day I got it, actually literally like within forty
Speaker 6: eight hours of getting that car, I I got it.
Speaker 6: I was I was a waitress. I bought that car.
Speaker 6: You know, my parents signed on the loan with me,
Speaker 6: and I was super proud of it. I was going
Speaker 6: to make the car payments. We go to school, and
Speaker 6: I wanted to take the back roads. My mom didn't
Speaker 6: want me to. I did not understand that it was
Speaker 6: her reference until she started yelling it, and I'm like
Speaker 6: just barely got my driver's license, and she's like, now
Speaker 6: go that way, and in a panic, I turn it
Speaker 6: and immediately flipped the car.
Speaker 1: That was the.
Speaker 6: Like ever and her coffee cup was the only thing
Speaker 6: whent flying across my face. Not like it didn't hit me,
Speaker 6: but like it broke the window to the left of me,
Speaker 6: and we were just like suspended in the air, like
Speaker 6: she I'm looking at mind.
Speaker 1: You could see was the full moon.
Speaker 6: Before and we were on these back roads and it
Speaker 6: wasn't too far from where my my parents worked. And
Speaker 6: someone someone went to that workplace and said said, hey,
Speaker 6: there's been a car wreck, and everyone came and it
Speaker 6: was me, and it was no fun because everyone there,
Speaker 6: you know, knew me, and we were suspended the air.
Speaker 6: My parents were like, you're going to have to, you know, learn.
Speaker 6: They were the type that you learned the hard way,
Speaker 6: so they so we I paid for it. We got
Speaker 6: it fixed, you know, a mechanic fixed it all that
Speaker 6: it was grateful to have a good waitressing job, and
Speaker 6: that it was fall in Arkansas and the Colors and
Speaker 6: we get lots of visitors.
Speaker 3: So it paid for paid for it.
Speaker 6: So I probably had a couple of different wrecks, and
Speaker 6: I have a feeling that zach steeringwheel trick was a byproduct.
Speaker 2: Well, going back to the story of the Alaska stories, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I want to talk about. I think I
Speaker 2: think the thing that stood out to me the most
Speaker 2: in it was the story of the outfitter that took
Speaker 2: the two guys. Yeah, was it two guys or three guys?
Speaker 5: Three?
Speaker 2: I appreciated the the assessment after the fact of all
Speaker 2: the little things like it wasn't this, I made this
Speaker 2: huge mistake and that's what put us in this crisis.
Speaker 2: But he recognized I pushed it too far here, and
Speaker 2: I pushed it just a little bit too far here,
Speaker 2: a little bit. That really impacted me in thinking about
Speaker 2: how I do things, whether that's in the boat, whether
Speaker 2: that's in life, whether that's you know what I mean
Speaker 2: making commitments and you know what I mean, tying myself
Speaker 2: up so I can't make that commitment. I thought it
Speaker 2: was really I thought it was really profound. Yeah, profound story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just every time they delayed for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: that river was just rising.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was scary too to me. I mean that
Speaker 1: that big, fast moving water is uh is wild no
Speaker 1: fast moving water.
Speaker 2: Golly.
Speaker 1: I I would have been scared acrossing the river that fast,
Speaker 1: that tall.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I encountered a deal like that. A friend of mine
Speaker 8: and I were going to hike and get to it.
Speaker 8: You had to cross the river been raining real hard,
Speaker 8: and we knew once we got across the river, we'd
Speaker 8: be fine. And so I said, hey, man, we got rope.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna put the rope around me. You hold on
Speaker 8: to it, I'll get across. I'll tie that rope to
Speaker 8: a tree. Then you come across with rope. And it
Speaker 8: worked really well. And when we got in the wilderness area,
Speaker 8: you had to cross the creek so many times. I
Speaker 8: just got tired of it. So I thought I was
Speaker 8: going to go up to steep ridge and go back down.
Speaker 8: And I got up there about sixty or seventy feet
Speaker 8: and I got scared.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 8: I looked down and I had that rope with me,
Speaker 8: and I was too scared to come down that thing.
Speaker 2: That's how steep it was. And I tied the rope
Speaker 2: on again. Man left the rope there.
Speaker 8: But you know, a rope pretty handy, honestly carrying para cord.
Speaker 2: It's fit so small and it's so strong. It comes
Speaker 2: in handy. Man. Yeah, you could have done the same thing.
Speaker 1: M HM.
Speaker 11: Always respect the water. We Josh and I fish a lot.
Speaker 11: We're out where we usually fishtailwaters here in Arkansas, and
Speaker 11: so you're near a dam, and if you're wade fishing,
Speaker 11: you're You've always got an ear open for the horn
Speaker 11: fell sound a horn saying we're gonna start flowing the water.
Speaker 11: Whatever the word is that I say it right, generating
Speaker 11: and and so you're always listening and you're moving as
Speaker 11: fast as you can.
Speaker 2: The most unnerving message that I read last last year
Speaker 2: was the horn on the dam has become inoperable. We
Speaker 2: don't know when it'll be fixed. So like we're out
Speaker 2: wade fishing. Is like, okay, is the water going to rise?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean, you're real sharpie marker on your if the
Speaker 1: water gets above here, let me know, tell your buddy,
Speaker 1: pick a partner. It is Fi Cally. Which story did
Speaker 1: you like the best?
Speaker 5: Question?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 5: How did I get punked? Because I wasn't clear?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1: The last story. I don't know if you guys, how
Speaker 1: much you are paying attention when you were listening to
Speaker 1: the podcast. The podcast told the story of a man
Speaker 1: two men nearly drowning. It told the story of two
Speaker 1: men nearly getting their heads knocked off by a widow
Speaker 1: maker on an Alaskan river in the back country. It
Speaker 1: told the story of a man and woman who had
Speaker 1: to spend the night underneath a goat hide. What was
Speaker 1: the other story. It told the story of a man
Speaker 1: who is charged by salth grizzly and had to shoot it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: What would be the common theme of those stories near death?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The last story was about a guy who didn't bring
Speaker 1: enough pairs of underwear to Alaska.
Speaker 7: Didn't bring any pairs of underpairs, just except the one
Speaker 7: he was wearing.
Speaker 1: So that story being in the lineup would be funny.
Speaker 3: Right, we understood it. It's funny, but it's.
Speaker 2: You got punk because you thought it was going to
Speaker 2: be life threatening? Yeah, yeah, did you get it? Josh?
Speaker 7: Was a true story?
Speaker 2: It was true?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I mean the punk fell through, well.
Speaker 3: The punk I didn't.
Speaker 6: I just feel like you kind of accused people of
Speaker 6: getting punked and it's like, I don't know it was
Speaker 6: getting punked.
Speaker 1: It was just like, yeah, well okay, here, here's here's
Speaker 1: the backside. This is the dirt that people come to
Speaker 1: the render for.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: I wrote that v O of saying you've been punked voiceover,
Speaker 1: so when it's me talking and it's like scripted talking,
Speaker 1: I wrote that vo before I ever heard that story.
Speaker 1: Because we did it at the last minute, and I
Speaker 1: didn't even hear that story until it was on the podcast,
Speaker 1: So I just it was supposed to be. It was
Speaker 1: kinda gonna be like a like a joke. It was
Speaker 1: just a joke. Like I went to Alaska, I was
Speaker 1: a fishing guide. We had all this stuff happened, da
Speaker 1: da da, and then I almost ran out of underwear.
Speaker 1: We just got punked. We thought he was gonna die. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw it was kind of goofy. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't have it all figured out. But favorite story.
Speaker 5: I was just thinking, chafing and bo is not a
Speaker 5: joking matter.
Speaker 1: Especially Okay, okay, well my fault, guys, Bear Grease World.
Speaker 1: I am sorry that that joke fell on deaf ears.
Speaker 6: You didn't ask me what my favorite story was or
Speaker 6: what stood out to me. Let me just tell you
Speaker 6: what stands out to me, both in the story you
Speaker 6: told this afternoon right here in this live render and
Speaker 6: the story that I listened to this afternoon on the
Speaker 6: on the on the actual original Bear Grease Alaska shows
Speaker 6: Alaska stories. Something that stood out to me is that
Speaker 6: I think you downplay your potential connection to death when
Speaker 6: you come home to me, like when I was listening
Speaker 6: to those, I was like, gosh, I didn't know it
Speaker 6: was that bad. And then today when you're talking about
Speaker 6: about the airline, I'm like, I always just thought that
Speaker 6: was in his head, that it was actually a dangerous situation,
Speaker 6: not like the steward is yelling. By the way, she
Speaker 6: probably yelled brace yourself, brace brace.
Speaker 1: Not it was a weird.
Speaker 2: Give me something you don't know.
Speaker 1: When when you're in Europe, when you're in when you're
Speaker 1: in London, they say mine the gap. Ye, when you're
Speaker 1: on the subway in London. It was something Canadian, but.
Speaker 2: It was like be prepared danger, take off yours.
Speaker 11: I think this is a common thing, Missy, and I
Speaker 11: wonder if other people who are family members to the
Speaker 11: people who share their stories would say the same thing.
Speaker 11: My son David, when he was nineteen or twenty, goes
Speaker 11: out west by himself and goes hiking and and comes
Speaker 11: home and I say, tell me about your trip, and
Speaker 11: he tells me about his trip, and you know, it's
Speaker 11: it's it sounds like he had a good time. And
Speaker 11: then like a week later, my daughter, who's two years
Speaker 11: older than him, comes over and she's like, good lord, mom,
Speaker 11: did David tell you about his trip, and I like
Speaker 11: make a face and I was like, yeah he did.
Speaker 11: She's like, can you even believe that? And I was like,
Speaker 11: tell me what, I can't believe?
Speaker 7: What just to make sure I know?
Speaker 11: And the story she tells me about his trip and
Speaker 11: the story he told me about his story, we're very,
Speaker 11: very very different. Where he spent like eight hours in
Speaker 11: a tree well that he wasn't sure he was going
Speaker 11: to be able to get out of all by himself.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like it's snow, it's.
Speaker 2: Snowing, and you know under the evergreens, it drops down in,
Speaker 2: the snow builds up, and he if you drop down
Speaker 2: in and you don't have anything to dig out with,
Speaker 2: you can get stuck in there because they can be
Speaker 2: ten or twelve feet deep.
Speaker 11: Oh wow, so he's stuck in a tree. Well, like anyway,
Speaker 11: we don't have to go into the story.
Speaker 3: David could be on your next Yeah.
Speaker 11: Well, what David tells me and what actually happened, we're
Speaker 11: quite different, right, Yeah, very different.
Speaker 6: And as a parent, you have to hear that story
Speaker 6: and not looks surprised as Mallory's telling you, because you
Speaker 6: got to play it cool. And then you can't call
Speaker 6: David and say, hey, I've got new intel about your
Speaker 6: tree Well experience and I'd like to talk about it.
Speaker 7: Clearly, are a better mother than me?
Speaker 1: Because that's good. Good story?
Speaker 2: Did we ask everybody? We didn't tell a story? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which which one?
Speaker 2: Which one? Man?
Speaker 10: I liked them and I felt like I could identify
Speaker 10: with a lot of them on some level. But one
Speaker 10: made me change how I'm acting now.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was the sow charging him and bait and bears.
Speaker 10: It's like, hey, I better take a pistol, yeah, or
Speaker 10: can't of spray today because this bait is on fire?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 10: So uh But then like the one that you told
Speaker 10: about the flash water, I think that one is the
Speaker 10: one that that would scare me pretty hard. Yeah, well
Speaker 10: that one too, Yeah, both of them, like anything with water.
Speaker 10: I like how he tied like the whole thing to
Speaker 10: Don's childhood, and like just takeaway where he broke through
Speaker 10: the fear where he felt like he was just gonna
Speaker 10: look forward.
Speaker 2: And that was a profound statement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was good.
Speaker 2: You know what he said too, would be real handy
Speaker 2: for people to know, is if you're retrieving somebody out
Speaker 2: of fast water.
Speaker 8: Don't take them a ninety degree straight to the bank.
Speaker 8: You go with a flow and do a forty five. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and most people wouldn't think of that. I wouldn't have
Speaker 8: thought of that. I mean, I'd be fighting trying to
Speaker 8: get the guy straight to the bank's shortest distance, you know,
Speaker 8: two points you'd have had rope though. I wouldn't have
Speaker 8: gotten that situation.
Speaker 2: For m.
Speaker 6: I think that in addition to being a great storyteller
Speaker 6: providing useful information and practical knowledge that people should take
Speaker 6: with him into Alaska, Billy Moles also has a name
Speaker 6: that could be a great country singer name, Yeah Billy.
Speaker 1: I've known Billy for at least ten years. He wrote
Speaker 1: for Bearhunting magazine back in the day, and Billy made
Speaker 1: incredible documentary films about Alaska. He has back when dv
Speaker 1: He still sells DVDs, but you know, the DVD sales
Speaker 1: aren't as hot as they used to be, and they
Speaker 1: but you can still buy them all and uh. And
Speaker 1: he's putting a lot of his stuff on YouTube and
Speaker 1: different stuff. But yeah, Billy, Billy is a He's a
Speaker 1: great guy. Yeah, I really like Billy.
Speaker 10: He got a lot of emails people missing him whenever
Speaker 10: he got out of the magazine.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he was a real good writer. Just yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just he's really meticulous and he was a good guy.
Speaker 1: He was uh he he just was really really diligent, big,
Speaker 1: strong guy. I mean, just like kind of a athlete, tough,
Speaker 1: and he even want he didn't even want to tell
Speaker 1: a story about a boat wreck that nearly killed him
Speaker 1: in Alaska. I can't remember. It's not that he hides that.
Speaker 1: I've heard him talk about it, but he was just like, ah,
Speaker 1: that's not that exciting. That's pretty exciting.
Speaker 8: You know the story, the underwear story. When you listen
Speaker 8: to the very first he goes, you know, we saw
Speaker 8: a cabin float down the river, we saw graves, it's
Speaker 8: coming out. Yeah, and he mentioned stuff that would have
Speaker 8: been probably the best stories of it.
Speaker 1: Rand Williams, I told you, I didn't get to listen
Speaker 1: to that before when I heard it. Yeah, if I
Speaker 1: would have, if I would have done that again, I
Speaker 1: would have been like, hey, Randall, why don't you tell
Speaker 1: me about when the graves came out.
Speaker 2: Of the cuts together?
Speaker 7: And both of us are like WHOA.
Speaker 1: Because I asked Randall, I knew Randall was a guy
Speaker 1: fishing guy in Alaska, and I was with him last
Speaker 1: week and uh, and I said, Hey, do you have
Speaker 1: any good like harrowing near death stories in Alaska? And
Speaker 1: he was like, not really, but once I did have
Speaker 1: to wear the same pair of underwear for thirty days.
Speaker 2: That's perfect.
Speaker 1: And so that's how it all started. As I said, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want you to tell that at the end and
Speaker 1: it'll be funny. But apparently it was funny.
Speaker 6: The story was phenomenal. The accusation of having been taken
Speaker 6: advantage of.
Speaker 2: Being manipulated exactly.
Speaker 1: Like I take offense at that.
Speaker 3: What was going on.
Speaker 2: Exactly that that was a funny story. Yes, I was
Speaker 2: offended personally.
Speaker 8: I just thought, I just wondered, how the you know,
Speaker 8: the take we have on it is different?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: When I go back, I went, I had to go
Speaker 1: listen to an old bear Grease podcast today or yesterday
Speaker 1: for for for for some I can't remember what I
Speaker 1: was listening for, but it was one I did like
Speaker 1: two years ago, and I was like, go, man, why
Speaker 1: are you yelling? And then I came in here and
Speaker 1: did vo today and did the exact same thing.
Speaker 3: It's a joke at our family's house that Clay wakes
Speaker 3: up like.
Speaker 6: Sometimes Clay and I are at this weird age where
Speaker 6: sometimes we just wake up at like four in the
Speaker 6: morning for no good reason. We're like, well, I guess
Speaker 6: we're up now, let's get up and work. And so
Speaker 6: we get up and we we work, and the kids
Speaker 6: talk about like in those times, like they'll see me
Speaker 6: like tiptoe, I have to walk through Ship's room to
Speaker 6: get to my office. So he'll like sometimes wake up
Speaker 6: to me like tiptoe and trying to stay quiet so
Speaker 6: I don't wake them up.
Speaker 3: And he's like, but not dad man dad, like he
Speaker 3: talks at a pretty much full yell twenty four.
Speaker 2: He is deaf.
Speaker 1: You gotta get it, Yeah, gotta you gotta yell, You
Speaker 1: gotta talk loud, passionate, loud and passionate.
Speaker 6: Chef said he woke up at five in the morning
Speaker 6: the other day to Clay telling me about how he
Speaker 6: cleaned something, yelling from the.
Speaker 3: Top at the stairs to me in living her mind.
Speaker 6: That's enough.
Speaker 3: Sleep's important for kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's where the value is different. My kids,
Speaker 1: they've woke me up up so much. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: guys so much for coming. Thanks for being on the render.
Speaker 1: There's another We've got another Alaska Stories podcast coming out,
Speaker 1: can't wait next. The next one is another one, all
Speaker 1: different storytellers with a different mother, all different brothers from
Speaker 1: a different mother. That's right, there's some. There's some good ones.
Speaker 5: Are we going to get punked?
Speaker 1: No punking on this one, no accusations. Actually actually actually
Speaker 1: the last story I had to put like a disclaimer
Speaker 1: on it, like if you have if you have small children,
Speaker 1: you might want to listen to this before you let
Speaker 1: them listen to it, ready for its legitimate disclaimer. Legitimate disclaimer.
Speaker 3: Could you gosh, I want to come in since media this.
Speaker 1: I have to tune into the next bar.
Speaker 6: Do you think that I can listen to it like
Speaker 6: based off of your yeah, well yes, I don't like
Speaker 6: being I don't like being scared. Well it's it's you'll
Speaker 6: see what I mean when you hear it.
Speaker 1: It's different. It's different. It's very good. It's no, I'm
Speaker 1: not foreshadowing at all. It's uh so you have to
Speaker 1: tune in. Thank you guys so much for being here. Dad,
Speaker 1: good to see you, Josh, Christy, Misty, Colby, Bear, Honey, Maggot.
Speaker 3: See you.
Speaker 2: We'll get render Boy back on
Speaker 1: The Render Boy