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Speaker 1: Hey there, fanar Rito's.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a brand new episode of How Rude taner Ritos. Today,

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Speaker 2: we have a writer and producer whose name you are

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Speaker 2: bound to recognize, whether it be from the many Full

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Speaker 2: House episodes he wrote and produced, or from other projects

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Speaker 2: he's done, like even Stevens and that's so raven. As

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Speaker 2: you remember, we had Dennis's longtime writing partner, Mark Warren

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Speaker 2: on the podcast a few months ago, so we can't

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Speaker 2: wait to talk to Dennis and hear all about his

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Speaker 2: experience on Full House and beyond. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome Dennis Rinseler to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hey Guystennis, I'm getting my h camera on.

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Speaker 4: Give me a second.

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Speaker 2: I recognize that voice, right. I wish somebody would drop

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Speaker 2: a hamburger. O.

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Speaker 4: My god, hy.

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Speaker 1: So good to see your face be.

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Speaker 4: Such a warm feeling of great memories.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Yeah, it's been so much.

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Speaker 1: Fun doing this.

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Speaker 4: Huh, seeing your eternally youthful faces.

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Speaker 2: Really, you know, we we had Mark on the podcast

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Speaker 2: a few months ago. It was so great to see

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Speaker 2: him too. But he just has such wark talking about

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Speaker 2: the show and reliving these memories. It's Jody and I

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Speaker 2: are having so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Watching this has been great.

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Speaker 5: I mean we have talked to Frankie hairdressing, Adria Later, producers, writers,

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Speaker 5: and just everybody, and it's so much fun because one,

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Speaker 5: we haven't seen a lot of you guys in such

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Speaker 5: a long time.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know, we were kids.

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Speaker 5: And we you know, it's been fun to go back

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Speaker 5: and watch the show that we never watched.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know you were working, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, we were too busy on TGI Friday.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the last time I actually

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Speaker 3: saw you. I came to a taping a Fuller House

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Speaker 3: with my son Greg, who was actually a background player

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Speaker 3: in one of the episodes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it's drunk.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the frat party episode.

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Speaker 4: He was one of the frat boys.

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Speaker 1: He was a boy. Oh interesting, Okay.

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Speaker 3: And I brought my grandchildren, Noah and Zoe, So it

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Speaker 3: was such a mind blowing multi generational.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, bringing our kids to set and getting pictures with

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Speaker 5: our kids and us like sitting on the couch in

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Speaker 5: the set im that I look at those pictures and

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, what a what a thing that you

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Speaker 5: never thought would happen.

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Speaker 2: The Weirdest week was one of the coolest weeks actually

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Speaker 2: was when Jody and I, our daughters, were.

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Speaker 1: Background players on a couple of episodes.

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Speaker 2: Actually, so Jenny and I became like the stage moms

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Speaker 2: who were like, how do you get a work permit?

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Speaker 2: What do we like? We didn't know what to do

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Speaker 2: the things that our moms did for us.

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Speaker 2: It was a very full circle moment for us.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's so great. Oh but it's so great

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Speaker 1: to see you.

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Speaker 4: Oh, great to see you guys. You look great.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Let's go back, I mean and start like, at the

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Speaker 5: beginning of your career, how did you get into this

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Speaker 5: business as a writer? Did you want to be a writer?

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Speaker 5: Did you want to be an airline pilot?

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Speaker 1: And this was what was available?

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Speaker 5: I mean what yeah, they threw me out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I never I never thought about being a writer.

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Speaker 4: When I was a kid.

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Speaker 3: I was just a wild, crazy kid who just wanted

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Speaker 3: I always said, I don't want to grow up.

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Speaker 3: So at one point I said why not, you know,

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Speaker 5: This is actually something I learned, so you should be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it got big laughs. I said that was fun.

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Speaker 4: We want to fourth grade teachers.

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Speaker 5: I got my undergrad degree in elementary with a focus

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Speaker 3: And when I met Mark and we started talking, we

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Speaker 3: Before Women's Prison with Idle Lapino, and we were making

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, So we go in there. The kids are.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's one hell of a show and tell

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Speaker 3: But so that was our thing until another teacher my neighbors, said,

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Speaker 3: I once took a filmmaking course.

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Speaker 3: So we went to his house every day after school

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Speaker 4: Yeah. He sent me an actual tape, like a cassette

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Speaker 4: So we packed up, we quit teaching.

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Speaker 4: Oh sorry. We said, hey, our wives.

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Speaker 3: And finally we ended up writing for some puppet named Madam.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I have a love hate relationship with Madam.

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Speaker 1: When I was little, I was terrified of her.

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Speaker 5: Also it looked like the Wicked Queen from Snow White

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Speaker 5: and it's a total like, you know, I had no

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Speaker 3: a look at her again, a face is basically male genitalia.

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Speaker 5: That's what, yes, exactly it is. It's these yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 5: between like each of our sort of ages, demographics, abilities,

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Speaker 5: and it took.

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Speaker 3: A while you know, when Mark and I came on

447
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: the show, we were parents and most of the guys

448
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Speaker 3: there were not not yeah, and there were no women

449
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Speaker 3: on the staff.

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Speaker 1: Yep and yep.

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Speaker 3: The vibe of the show was, Oh, it's these three

452
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Speaker 3: single guys and they're kind of stuck raising these girls

453
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Speaker 3: and the girls are cramping their style, which is not sympathetic.

454
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Speaker 3: In Spain, the show was called Padres Fizzoso's which is

455
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: like forced fathers show, so you know, uh, and we

456
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Speaker 3: we came in with parenting stories.

457
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Speaker 4: I mean, look at the first episode.

458
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Speaker 3: We wrote jingle Hell, jingle h E double hockey stack,

459
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Speaker 3: as Joey would say, and we did Jesse and.

460
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Speaker 4: Joey team up to work.

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Speaker 3: On advertising together, which was from our life.

462
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Speaker 4: Mark and I were a writing team.

463
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Speaker 3: We know the arguments you have, and DJ and Stephanie

464
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Speaker 3: are arguing that Stephanie's always touching DJ's stuff. So when

465
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Speaker 3: the girls have an argument and they see the boys

466
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Speaker 3: having an argument, the men having an argument, and they worry,

467
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Speaker 3: the girls wearri are we going to are you guys

468
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: getting divorced? And it made the guys realize G has parents.

469
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Speaker 3: Everything we do reflects to them. We have to set

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Speaker 3: a better example. So those are the kind of stories

471
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Speaker 3: you're interested. Plus we gave Danny uh potty training story,

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Speaker 3: which is right.

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Speaker 4: You know, a parenting story. So we were pushing towards

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Speaker 4: those kind of stories.

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Speaker 3: Although we did have a problem in that we didn't

476
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Speaker 3: know right away that John Stamos and Uh Sagitt were

477
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Speaker 3: not getting along. So he because Saga was good friends

478
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Speaker 3: with Joey, they with Uh with David comics together and

479
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Speaker 3: in Comes John and John starts getting real friendly with Dave,

480
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Speaker 3: and Bob feels left out.

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Speaker 4: So we said, let's write a script.

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Speaker 5: I think Bob always felt left out even when he

483
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Speaker 5: was included.

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Speaker 1: He was like wait.

485
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Speaker 3: So we wrote a script called Pal Joey, will you

486
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Speaker 3: do a flashback? Yes, ends, and you see that Joey

487
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Speaker 3: and Danny are friends. Incomes Jesse gets in between the

488
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Speaker 3: two of them. Now he's more friends with Joey. Danny

489
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Speaker 3: fields left out, and they all come together at the

490
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Speaker 3: end and they bury something as friendship's right. Get the

491
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Speaker 3: word that on the stage the three of them are

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Speaker 3: getting along.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 4: So we said, oh, all right, it worked. It worked? Wow?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it really you know, and John and Bob

496
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Speaker 5: John always still tells the story about how, yeah, they

497
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Speaker 5: couldn't stand each other and then they became brothers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like everything else. Yeah, well, you know John Stamus

499
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Speaker 3: was such a pro and he had so much experience

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Speaker 3: and John and Bob is you know he's from stand up,

501
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Speaker 3: say and do anything you want?

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, exactly, he was.

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Speaker 4: He was. I mean the parents used to get so

504
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Speaker 4: upset with this stuff, right, yes, I remember you guys.

505
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: Were sitting around one morning and Bob comes in and

506
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Speaker 3: he goes, oh my god, I had such morning this morning.

507
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Speaker 4: My daughters were playing ring toss on.

508
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Speaker 3: That and the mother is your mom and Canada's mom,

509
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Speaker 3: and you know what, it got back to the Inquirer

510
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: that Bob was out of control and the parents were angry,

511
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Speaker 3: and that was true.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Well that there was a story when I was like

514
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Speaker 5: nine or something ten, because Bob and I were super close.

515
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 5: I loved Bob and I was close with his daughters,

516
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Speaker 5: and so I would spend weekends and stuff at the

517
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Speaker 5: house sometimes, you know, and he'd I go home with

518
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Speaker 5: him after taping whatever to go see Audrey and Laura.

519
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Speaker 5: And around that time, there was a Star magazine article

520
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Speaker 5: that came out that I was a difficult child to

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Speaker 5: work with. I was throwing tantrums. Nobody on set liked me,

522
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Speaker 5: particularly Bob. He was trying to get me fired. Like

523
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Speaker 5: it was the wildest thing.

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Speaker 4: The headline was mean me, Bob saggot, the man's Jody's

525
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Speaker 4: weedn't be fired.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what it was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And when we came to work the next day,

528
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: you guys pretended that it was real. Yeah, and you're

529
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Speaker 3: arguing in front, I want you out of here.

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Speaker 1: That's hysterical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we just made fun of it.

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Speaker 3: We all knew it wasn't true, but the rest of

534
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Speaker 3: the country they don't know.

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Speaker 4: Those men.

536
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: So ridiculous, so ridiculous crazy. Now, you've worked on like

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Speaker 5: several other incredibly popular shows, even Stevens.

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Speaker 4: That was great, So Raven that was fun? Yeah?

539
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Speaker 1: What what?

540
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: What?

541
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Speaker 5: What else? What other things have been your favorite?

542
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Speaker 3: Like, it's funny. After Full House, the comedy started changing.

543
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: The shows not family shows that everyone watched together. You

544
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,239
Speaker 3: had Seinfeld, you had Rose Dan. You know, these were

545
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: kind of adult comedies. So the networks were like when

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00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: we would go in there and they'd say, oh, you

547
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: guys did Full House, right, Oh okay, Well we're.

548
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 4: Not really doing that kind of thing anymore.

549
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: And then the Disney Channel pops up and they're like,

550
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: full House, get over here, exactly what we're looking for.

551
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: So they gave us Even Stevens.

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Speaker 3: We you know, after a while, we became like a

553
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: show doctors because we took over Full House after Jeff

554
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: left to do Hanging with mister Cooper. They trusted us

555
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: to take over shows like The Parenthood with Robert Townsend

556
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: and Even Stevens. The first staff left and we came in,

557
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: or that's so raven The whole staff left, the show

558
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: runner left and we came in. And on Even Stevens,

559
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: they really didn't have a family show that didn't have

560
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: a magic element, a magic sweater or some weird science.

561
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: So we were just doing crazy families stories and they

562
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: didn't really have any comments on what we did. They

563
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: would say, all right, I guess, I guess that's okay.

564
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Speaker 3: Do whatever you want. So we did the first Disney

565
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Speaker 3: Channel musical, We did an episode of Even Stevens. We

566
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Speaker 3: did fake documentaries, documentaries like spinal tap, things like that.

567
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: We tried anything, and so it was really and it

568
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: was single camera, which means instead of doing it like

569
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Speaker 3: we did on Full House, which is a play that

570
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Speaker 3: you you show in front of an audience with four cameras,

571
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Speaker 3: single camera, one at a time, seen by thing takes forever.

572
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Speaker 5: You're like, oh, yes, yeah, we always do that too,

573
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: like use a term, and then I'm like, wait, hold on,

574
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Speaker 5: I don't think anyone outside of this business.

575
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: So when you shoot it like a movie, uh, you

576
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: could do whatever you want. You could put the camera

577
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: on the ceiling, in the toilet bowl, any crazy shot

578
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: you want. So we had a lot of fun on

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Speaker 3: that show and that talented people sh Buff was on

580
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Speaker 3: and he.

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Speaker 1: Christy Yeah, Christy car.

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Speaker 4: Mona was great and that was fun. That was a

583
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Speaker 4: lot of fun.

584
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: And then Raven we went back to four cameras shot

585
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: in front of an audience, and she was so surprisingly talented.

586
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: She could do anything, yeah, sing, dance, physical, comedy, stunts, drama,

587
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: you know. So she was the real deal too. So

588
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Speaker 3: that was it brought us back to the Full House days,

589
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Speaker 3: you know, in front of an audience and getting real laughs.

590
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, because there's something about that that just for writers

591
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 5: and actors, it's so great to get that immediate feedback.

592
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 5: You're like, oh, that's working and when you when it

593
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: doesn't work, you're like, oh, that's you know, we.

594
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Speaker 4: Need to change it.

595
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: When we would shoot Full House in front of an audience,

596
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: if the joke didn't work, the actors would quickly huddle up,

597
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: pitch a new joke, and we'd try it in front

598
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: of the audience if that word it was good. But

599
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: when you're doing film on single camera, there's no audio

600
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: and you can't laugh. So someone's trying to be really

601
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: funny and we have to hold a breath and not laugh.

602
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Speaker 4: So that person doesn't know is this working? Is thisay?

603
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 4: No one's laughing. I don't know.

604
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

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00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 5: It's a totally different, totally different vibe.

606
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: And when you have a live audience you try to

607
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: make them laugh. Come on, everybody, enjoy it. Laugh, You

608
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: throw candy so they all she'll get up right, yes, sure,

609
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: the fifty five degrees so they're laughing just.

610
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Speaker 4: To keep warm.

611
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you guys.

612
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: That wraps up part one of our interview with Dennis Rinstler,

613
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 5: and there is so much more to talk about with him.

614
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 5: We had such a great interview from his career on

615
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 5: Full House to the other iconic shows that he's worked on,

616
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 5: like even Stevens and that's so raven. You can listen

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Speaker 5: to the rest of Dennis's interview in part two, which

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Speaker 5: will be airing this Friday, and in the meantime, if

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Speaker 5: you want to check us out on Instagram, you can

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Speaker 5: follow us at how Rude Podcast, send us an email

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Speaker 5: at how Rude Tanertos at gmail dot com. There we go,

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Speaker 5: and uh yeah, visit our merch store howardmerch dot com.

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Speaker 5: We've got shirts, We've got turtles, we've got them in bags.

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Speaker 1: No, we don't have turtles at bags. That would be terrible.

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Speaker 5: But remember, you guys, the world is small, but the

626
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Speaker 5: house is full of child actors just just lousy with them.

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Speaker 1: They're everywhere, They're everywhere you look. They're everywhere you look.

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Speaker 5: And and there's also a corner of of uh studio

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Speaker 5: teachers somewhere if the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they don't worry.

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Speaker 5: They're not totally unsupervised.

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Speaker 1: Like Michelle, It's

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Speaker 5: Okay, bye bye,