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Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on? Everybody? It's your girl? Sretha Foster Brasby.

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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? Is your girl? Cheryl swoops Hey?

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Speaker 3: And this is the levels to this podcast. This is

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Speaker 3: the show we break down all the shit that women

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Speaker 3: a good and fun show because this show, now, we

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Speaker 3: don't usually tell everybody this, but every once in a

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Speaker 3: while we keep it a buck and so sometimes we

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Speaker 3: record our episodes in event just a little bit. And

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Speaker 3: this week's show we recorded on our Founder's Day for

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Speaker 3: sig mc gay Moros. When I tell you we were lit,

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Speaker 3: we wereally Yes, did you enjoy your Founder's Day? Cheryl lit?

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Speaker 1: It's an understatement. Oh my god, Hi, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: It was my very first Founder's day, it was, and

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Speaker 2: just seeing all the stuff on social media gave me

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Speaker 2: I want to be there, I want to be there,

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Speaker 2: I want to be here but you know, we we.

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Speaker 1: Did our thing in h town. They had me outside.

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Speaker 2: I was kicking it a little bit, had me a

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: It was it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a special day for me, and I actually

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Speaker 2: loved like messaging people and seeing people and texting people

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Speaker 2: Happy Founder's Day and to get it back, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a great It was a great day.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: And what about you, because I know you was outside?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was outside and I was everywhere.

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Speaker 3: So as I mentioned before to those listening and may

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Speaker 3: not have taught, I'm the president of my chapter. So

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Speaker 3: that means I got to be the one to like

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Speaker 3: right you gotta. You want to show support at other

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Speaker 3: people's stuff so that when it's your stuff, they come

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Speaker 3: and show support for you, you know. So we have

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Speaker 3: three chapters in this area, not including mine, So I

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Speaker 3: had to go to new Haven, Connecticut to celebrate with

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Speaker 3: I was lit, don't get me wrong, but I definitely

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Speaker 3: had to pop up at people's stuff. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Of course you did. It was.

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Speaker 2: It was good to see so many you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: so rows from all old were the great I ain't

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Speaker 2: saying the great state of Texas. I'm saying the great

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Speaker 2: all of that, but uh, yeah, you know, Houston, we'd

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Speaker 3: You also got me in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Hahu.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I met in trouble. Yeah you.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh Okay, well do tell no listen, tell tell

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Speaker 2: me how I got you in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I needs to know.

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Speaker 3: So my homegirl, Nicole, who is in Houston, was at

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Speaker 3: the event at Cali's Kitchen, and she met you and everybody.

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Speaker 3: I guess y'all took a group picture and all of this,

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Speaker 3: funny that I met Sora Swoops before I even see you?

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Speaker 3: And I said, excuse.

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Speaker 5: Me, why you They ain't got nothing to do with me, No, ma'am, No, No,

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Speaker 5: I got the kick in with Sir Sloops tonight and

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how long it I feel like that.

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Speaker 4: We have Thanksgiving that is coming up, and I'm excited

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Speaker 2: Oh, oh, I can't stand it. And then you go

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Speaker 2: Because the Christmas decorations are taking over the damn store. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, the disrespect for Thanksgiving. So I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: We're not we're going to We're not gonna have it.

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Speaker 3: We're just it's not gonna do it. But what I

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Speaker 3: We understand, like we know, we understand. We know that

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Speaker 3: you know, this government shut down, although it's reopening, and

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Speaker 3: that's a different podcast for a different day on how

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Speaker 3: And we also understand that, hey, people need a little help,

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Speaker 3: do what we can to help others. And so my

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Speaker 3: cohost Cheryl had an amazing idea and we go run

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Speaker 3: to give some fans or a lucky fan or lucky

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, listen, I call it a blessing. It's

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Speaker 2: a blessing. Okay, T, But but you said it. We'll

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Speaker 2: have a whole nother conversation another day about the government shutdown.

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Speaker 2: But even before the government shutdown, Listen, people are out.

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Speaker 1: Here struggling, like the struggle is real. And I gonna

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Speaker 2: And here's my thing. I say this all the time. God,

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Speaker 2: God has blessed me. He continues to bless me every

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Speaker 2: Both want to be a blessing to one of our amazing,

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Speaker 2: incredible listeners. And if you're not following us on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: you might want to start because that's the only way

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Speaker 2: you can potentially be the recipient of the thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, So yes, follow us on IG. That's that's number one,

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Speaker 3: all right, And we check ig all the time so

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Speaker 3: be the person that's receiving this one thousand dollars, right.

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Speaker 3: I ain't asking you to write no thousand words sa yeah, like,

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Speaker 3: So you've got two steps that you gotta do. You

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Speaker 2: Well listen, and here's my thing. There is there y'all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so looking forward to that, and we will definitely

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but today we are going to kick it

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Speaker 3: So we told you that we had a very special

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you what's so funny, Cheryl. What's

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Speaker 3: That further lets you know the leadership that this woman

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Speaker 3: Rashida Liberty, Hey girl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I always, I always work for Fortune one

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Speaker 4: And my husband is a college coach. He's a college

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Speaker 6: But if you need me, I'll be here.

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Speaker 4: And I decided at that time when I passed my exam,

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Speaker 6: Table and they and a lot of some agents to this.

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Speaker 4: You know, some of the agents in those agencies that

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Speaker 4: I was like, please, letsten I paid little big bank,

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Speaker 1: Let's not do that.

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Speaker 4: So the first year out the gate was rough. I

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Speaker 1: That's incredible.

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Speaker 4: So and my oldest Draft class player, he was in

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Speaker 2: My question is, first of all, I think it's amazing

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Speaker 1: Doing the damn thing, Like, kudos.

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Speaker 2: To you, and I wish we had more black women

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Speaker 4: I only represent professional football players because it's taken me

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Speaker 6: Yep, And I achieved that.

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Speaker 4: But when you start saying you're going to go into

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Speaker 6: And one of the things I wouldn't want to do.

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Speaker 4: I would want to build my rolex first before I

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Speaker 6: Opportunity for them. Yeah, I don't want to build a Plank.

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Speaker 3: Now, I love the one thing that I know that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I do. I have an underdog mentality. So

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Speaker 4: But the underdogs. I like to work with them because

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Speaker 6: In the country.

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Speaker 4: His testimony really has shaped how they're going to handle

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Speaker 4: Yes, you're annointed, you are three years. Kalais Campbell one

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Speaker 4: I talked to Khalais Campbell at Super Bowl in Vegas,

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Speaker 4: So he was like he didn't Never in a million

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you can say that, Cheryl.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I told my son, I.

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Speaker 2: his career. And so I loved Rashida when you said,

440
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: for you at Lady Lib Sports, it's about building the man,

441
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: the athlete, the philanthropist. So so many times when athletes signed,

442
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: they're not thinking about those other things, like someday your

443
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: career is going to be over, so what's the plan.

444
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: So why don't you tell.

445
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: The people what is the hardest thing about being an

446
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: agent that maybe people don't think about or they don't know.

447
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 4: It's those And this is what I asked players, Like,

448
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 4: right now, we're in the process of closing, we're coming

449
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: up on draft, they're coming up on their last games.

450
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: It's time to lock in, and we're meeting, you know,

451
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: trying to We can't sign anyone, of course, until after

452
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 4: their last collegiate game. However, is time to start making

453
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 4: those connections and say, hey, I'm here, Hey am I

454
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: You're number one, number two, number three. So I think

455
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: the biggest thing I tell people to ask their agents

456
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: is what happens when it doesn't work out your prospective agent,

457
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 4: when the draft is over and I'm still sitting there,

458
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 4: what do you do?

459
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 6: And what has been your record of what you've done?

460
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 6: Because I've had I've had those situations. I'll never forget

461
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 6: I had a player, my heartbreak player, heartbreak player, April

462
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 6: thirty of twenty twenty two. We'll never forget it. Day three,

463
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 6: one of the saddest days of my life. We were

464
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 6: sitting there like, oh, the draft is over and you're

465
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 6: the only here and you're the only one here.

466
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 4: So that feeling that I had in that moment was,

467
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 4: oh my god, Rashida, you fall on your knees, you.

468
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Pray, and you get to work.

469
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 6: That's it. And I think that's the issue. Now.

470
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: We got them up to the Steelers, we got them

471
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 4: down to the Falcons, like we made things happen for them,

472
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: But it was more of how do you solve in

473
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: what it doesn't work out? And I think that's the

474
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 4: hardest thing for agents.

475
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 6: A lot of agencies, the big agencies, either you're an NFL.

476
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: Player or you're not. Goodbye, You'll never hear from me again.

477
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 4: We'll try to get you something. Hey, they've got a

478
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: couple of workouts over here, YadA, YadA. They never talked

479
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 4: to the agency again. You know why, because that agency

480
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 4: is focused on the draft picks. They're not thinking about

481
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: you that you didn't make it.

482
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 6: So what they shrugged their shoulders your tax right off.

483
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: But I think the best agencies are the ones that

484
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 4: get in the get on that get in that prayer,

485
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 4: cause it with you, and get to work and grind

486
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: for you every day as if you were one of

487
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: their children trying to eat.

488
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: And you know what that says.

489
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: To me. That says to me also that not only

490
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: do you care, like do you actually care about the court?

491
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: It's just that is the that is the main thing.

492
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 3: Like you have to believe in me like that's and

493
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 3: not believe me, believe in me because everybody else may

494
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: not see what you see or see what I believe my.

495
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: Potential is to be.

496
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: And so when I look at larger agencies that make

497
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 3: those kinds of moves and operate in that way, to me,

498
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: it's like you don't even really believe in you. You

499
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: must have thought that I was gonna be that big

500
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: paycheck you was gonna get.

501
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: Your and that was it. You didn't really believe in

502
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: me and my ability because.

503
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: If they should still be working for me even though

504
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: my name, Because I mean, how many players in any

505
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: sport can we name that went undrafted and had fruitful

506
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: careers careers God believe in me?

507
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: All?

508
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: Yes, we don't.

509
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: We don't even make our players. How we demonstrate our

510
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: belief in you is that when we pay to get

511
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 4: you trained, we pay to take care of you all

512
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: through the pre draft process. If we don't find you

513
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: a job, we do not get paid. You don't pay

514
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: any of that money back. So what that says to

515
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: most players is you are putting money in me. You

516
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: are investing in me.

517
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: Yes, whether you are you believe in me, you believe

518
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: in me.

519
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 4: I'm putting you know you can twenty five thousand and

520
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 4: fifty thousand in these guys.

521
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 6: I believe in you.

522
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: Right right.

523
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: So if you think about in some of you know,

524
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: first round draft pick, you putting two fifty three eighty Yep,

525
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: that's the range.

526
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 6: So if you putting that kind of money in me,

527
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 6: you believe in me.

528
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 4: And another quote that we use in our agency is

529
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 4: more than a transaction.

530
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 6: I are more than a transaction.

531
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: I like that.

532
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a contract for you to get this done.

533
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 6: Da da da ring.

534
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: If you ring my doorbell at two in the morning

535
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: with your hoodie on, am I gonna call the police?

536
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 6: Or am I gonna invite you in?

537
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: Yep?

538
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: If you don't have a place to go Thanksgiving? And

539
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: I called you on Thanksgiving by the way, because a

540
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: he ain't doing that right, How how is your think? Oh,

541
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm sitting over here, I'll just watching TV.

542
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: What you're doing?

543
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: You need to come to Houston. You come to Houston

544
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: my house. You got Thanksgiving dinner.

545
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: With my family because because we're family. Yeah, I got player.

546
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: I got a player out of out of I always

547
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: call him my little my little West Coast dude because he.

548
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 6: Always for nine bab Bank not a game, you know.

549
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: So. But but he won't come, he won't fly here.

550
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: He comes and it's off season. He comes to Houston

551
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: at least once or twice. He came for Easter. He's

552
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 4: meeting us at Super Bowl this year.

553
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 6: Like he comes to he flies to Houston to see

554
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 6: his agent.

555
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: I love that, just just out of love, Like.

556
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 6: Hey's our birthday weekend. I'm gonna be down there, you know.

557
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 6: Or we meet up in the same city. I see

558
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 6: you in New Orleans. I'm in New Orleans where you

559
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 6: at Bourbon Street. Let's go.

560
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: So it's it's like relationship is where you have to

561
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: trust your agent and have a personal relationship.

562
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 6: Because to hear my players.

563
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: Cry on the phone, I don't say, oh, I'm so

564
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: sorry about that. Okay, dude, get over. I'm gonna find

565
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: something right. I'm more like sometimes I may cry with you.

566
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: It's all right, it's all right.

567
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 6: But no, we gonna get to work.

568
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm gonna get you somebody to

569
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: talk to you, because this is a bigger issue than

570
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: I can solve. And we have people who work. We

571
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: have sports performance coaches now which I didn't have initially

572
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: that helps them with that mental health piece or you know,

573
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: just grieving because they greet football.

574
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean football becomes your lives, like your sport

575
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: becomes your life for so much of it, especially in

576
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: the later times. And I man, listen, we can have

577
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: a whole different conversation about playing a blow game and

578
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: knowing that you might be getting drafted and how what

579
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: that looks like and how people I mean, like that's

580
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: a whole different things stressed.

581
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: It's so stressful.

582
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: But I want to go back to something because we

583
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 3: talk about the scouting system, what the NFL looks like,

584
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: and it feels like there are things that people within

585
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: the system can be doing better because HBCU players really

586
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: do deserve the same visibility and opportunity that players and

587
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: foul prie programs get, but they never get it. So

588
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: I'm curious, you know, from your perspective, to know what

589
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: do you think they could be doing better to get

590
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: that to ensure that these players are getting that same visibility.

591
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, my so I started.

592
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 4: My very first h VC player to make a roster

593
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: was Ryan McDaniel out of North Carolina Central back in

594
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. Ryan, I learned a lot in that

595
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: process of you have to market differently for a small

596
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: school player, and that's where bigger agencies fell. If you're

597
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: a small school player, they kind of handle you like

598
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 4: you would handle a P four. Now I have Jacoby

599
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: Jones out of Texas.

600
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 6: Jacoby is like.

601
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: That's different, that that's a whole Everybody knows who he is, right,

602
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: Leon O'Neill, Texas A and MS everybody know, wake them up.

603
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: He still know he is the pride of Aggie Land guy. Right,

604
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 4: he's doing nowsy. They're asking him questions on the game.

605
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: So they know those guys big powerful schools, right, But

606
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: my small school guy, I gotta make him just as popular.

607
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

608
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: So what I tend to do, like even now thinking

609
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: about my schall small small schools players I may sign,

610
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: I have to start talking to every single NFL team

611
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: usually in September October of their last year, because I

612
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: got to get them to their school. Then I sometimes

613
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: systemically like you said t yeah, like what you said, money,

614
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: that's why I'm start calling you t money. So is

615
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: sometimes they don't have good film because the cameras are

616
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: very poor in small schools. So I get a team

617
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: that will call me like last year and said, I'm sorry,

618
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: we love your guy, we sen your guy in person,

619
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: but when I'm going to show his film, they only

620
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: have three games in the system. Their gas ain't even

621
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 4: uploaded games. I go to the website. The person who

622
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: handles their website doesn't even have their status that they

623
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: don't have their preseason awards. They don't tell me any

624
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: biographical information. Who's his mom, who's his dad? Does he

625
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: have a former NFL player in his life? Blah blah

626
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: blah nothing. So there are some things that we need

627
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: to do with the small school side to invest to

628
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: get the notoriety so that you go to some of

629
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: their websites. Of some of the small school websites aren't

630
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: even verified. I mean they're social medias. I even verified

631
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: your football team and not verify.

632
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 6: How does that happen? And then your star players. You

633
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 6: don't have a.

634
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: Deal with Instagram or x to say my star players

635
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: need to be verified.

636
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 6: We're only going to do two a year or three

637
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 6: a year. So that at least when a team goes to.

638
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 4: Search, because they navigate their social media, they know that

639
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: that's who they're looking for. So there are some things

640
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: there now team wise, what I have gotten on every

641
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: scout about and you know, Rasheta comes out on all

642
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: of them. When I'm in personal, I said, if you

643
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: all go over to Ole, Miss, if you're going to

644
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: go over to Mississippi State, Southern.

645
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 6: Miss you surely need to be getting your tail down

646
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 6: to Jackson State.

647
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: That part.

648
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: How you gonna how you gonna go around them? You

649
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: give them the same love you're in the vicinity. So

650
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: some people are like, well, we don't really.

651
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 6: Have a budget.

652
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 4: Yes, you knew you had a budget to go ten miles, fifteen,

653
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: twenty miles up the street. Get yourself down on the

654
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: Alcorn Mississippi, Ourcorn, Mississippi Valley, Jackson. Go see those schools.

655
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: If you're in the same area, there's no excuse. If

656
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: you're at South Carolina, why aren't you going to South

657
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: Carolina State?

658
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: If you're at.

659
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: North Carolina, why aren't you going to North Carolina Central?

660
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: So I push them on that and sometimes I make

661
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 4: them go. There was a bowl game I called the

662
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 4: player personnel.

663
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: Zach.

664
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say the team, but I called him

665
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: and I said, you need to get Yard, the only

666
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: team I represented at the HBC Legacy Ball. You need

667
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 4: to get your team down here. And he said, yeah,

668
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: you know, it's Mardi Gras weekend, blah. They were in

669
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: Mardi Gras. So he was like, it is expensive for

670
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: them to send them. I said, you can you mean

671
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: to tell me you can't send one of your guys

672
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: on a same day flight. He says, you know what,

673
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: You're right, he came down there and interviewed my player.

674
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 4: That's right, he can't.

675
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 6: They came down there and interviewed my player and left

676
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: right back.

677
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: How So, But it takes that level of advocacy for

678
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: these small schools, and you got to push.

679
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 6: The NFL to pay attention.

680
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: And then at the same time, I have to work

681
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: with the schools to say, hey, my guy is hot,

682
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: I need you to do what you need to do

683
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: to get him in and we're gonna collaborate a little bit.

684
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: I need you to get him working on his agility drills.

685
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 4: I need you to get him lifting, Like, we need

686
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: to collaborate with the school so that when he comes

687
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 4: out he's ready, m.

688
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: I because I have so many follow ups that I'm

689
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna let sure get in.

690
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: Well, no, I was just gonna say, it's so good

691
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: to hear that, because.

692
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: Somebody has to advocate for him and I.

693
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: I've had this conversation with a lot of people before,

694
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: even on the basketball side, right, it is a little

695
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: different like HBCUs and women's basketball. But what I've always

696
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: said is there's talent. Like I don't care what school

697
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: it is, how small it is, how big it is.

698
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: Like y'all are making up excuses not to recruit or

699
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: not to go look at these players because I don't

700
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: care what school it is.

701
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: There's talent there.

702
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: So so go, let's just go.

703
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah listen.

704
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: So team mentioned this earlier, being a leader of over

705
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand members in Sigma gammearrow now mentoring young

706
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: athletes like just sitting here talking to you and listening

707
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: to you. Honestly, I'm like, damn, where have you been

708
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: all my life? I need you with my life.

709
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 6: I've been leading this thing.

710
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: Called literally all my Sigma life. Yeah for real, it

711
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: your Sigma life.

712
00:36:59,719 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: Now.

713
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: Now this is chapter chapter two or three. So now

714
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: you come in my Life twenty two. But listen, I

715
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: did chapter twenty two. I like twenty two. I like

716
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: twenty two. I said this earlier about not having a

717
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: lot of women as agents on the WNBA side or

718
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: even in this space in general, let alone black women.

719
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: How have you found.

720
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: Kind of your way or how difficult has it been

721
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: navigating this space? And I'm just going to go with

722
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 2: the NFL because I can only imagine the challenges you've

723
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: had to face walking in these rooms as a black

724
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: woman representing male.

725
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: Black football players. How challenging has that been for you.

726
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: There's no doubt that we are very underrepresented in those spaces.

727
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 6: But back to kind of.

728
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 4: Where that fortune one hundred came from, I've always been

729
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: the lonely.

730
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 6: Only in the room.

731
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 4: I've either been the only woman, and I've definitely been

732
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: the only black and sometimes the only Black woman. So

733
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: I've always and people hate when I say this because

734
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: I say it to my family, but I've been kind

735
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 4: of born and bred in the corporate space by white males.

736
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 6: So my style is kind of like that. And even

737
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 6: in the sorority, it rubbed people the wrong way a lot.

738
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 6: Now it rubbed people the wrong way. But when we

739
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 6: was bringing. But when we brought in that money and stuff,

740
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 6: they were like, Oh, I get it.

741
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 4: That's the skill she brings. But she's not as warm

742
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: and fuzzy. Now if you my homegirl, oh, you'd be like,

743
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 4: people really don't know how crazy you are kind of

744
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: closed doors.

745
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: They didn't know it.

746
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 6: Now you know, my real friends, they like, they don't know.

747
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: When I see you up there talking, I'd be like,

748
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: that is y'all just.

749
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 6: Don't know.

750
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: Real quick. I know, but I know how to turn

751
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: it on and turn it off.

752
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: And one of the things I've always won with is

753
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 4: my ability to be I hate to say articulate, but

754
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 4: being very clear on what my position is, very clear

755
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: on what I'm representing, and not blinking. I'm not gonna

756
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: cower in those spaces. So when you come rough with me,

757
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: just and sometimes it throws them off a little bit.

758
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I kind of like it.

759
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: And so now what's so interesting about that? I always

760
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: tell people I've never really had a problem with the

761
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: lead the NFL. I will have NFL front office people

762
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: call and give me leads.

763
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 6: I have had both.

764
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: I have had scouts a player person out telling me

765
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 4: who's your top five? Ah, because they know I kind

766
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 4: of specialize in HBCUs like not specialized. I have born

767
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 4: in HBC. You know, I always represent at least one.

768
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 4: But they know if there's a strong HBCU player, Rashida

769
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: Liberty's gonna know what it is. That's what She's gonna

770
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 4: know exactly who they are. And so they'll ask me,

771
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: give me your top four, give me your top five.

772
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: So they'll call and ask me. And then at the

773
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: same time, they know I'm in Texas, so they know

774
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 4: I'm in Big twelve country. They know I'm in SEC

775
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 4: country American Conference Conference. So they'll tell me, you need

776
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 4: to go look at so and so over at Houston.

777
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: I need to go look at so and so at TCU.

778
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: Let me tell you about them. So now they give

779
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: me information. And because I think they're intrigued by me,

780
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: because they want to know more about me, So I'll

781
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 4: give you, Like you know the unfortunate incident that happened

782
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 4: with the Dallas Cowboy a couple of weeks ago in Neeland.

783
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.

784
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 4: Called and I called every single Dallas Cowboys front office

785
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 4: member I had in my phone all the way to

786
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: the top, except Jerry Jones.

787
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 6: I didn't talk to James. But I called every single

788
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 6: one as well as the coaches I knew over there,

789
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 6: and if I didn't get them on the phone, I

790
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 6: sent them a text just to tell them. I want

791
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 6: to give you, you know, my condolences. I know this is

792
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 6: a tough day for you all blah blah blah. But

793
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 6: I'm telling you the majority agents ain't doing that.

794
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the majority and I didn't do it. It's a

795
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: system of care because I believe you cannot go and

796
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: withdraw from a bank you haven't put into.

797
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

798
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: So when I when I call over there, or when

799
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: there's a situation where they know I got a guy

800
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: even though I you know, we they lost out on

801
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: a guy that I had this year.

802
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 6: He went to another team in their conference. But they

803
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 6: forgive me for that.

804
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 4: But I know that if I come up on a

805
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: draft situation, they know Rashida and they're going to answer

806
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: the phone for me.

807
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: I love this.

808
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 4: I don't just call them going a draft. I don't

809
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: just a happy birthday, happy anniversary, right. Those relationships matter.

810
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 4: So that's kind of how I get through. I build

811
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: with the stock that I have a lot of confidence,

812
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: and I build relationship more than.

813
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 6: Just what I need to withdraw from them.

814
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: I love that that relationship building is probably the one

815
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: thing that will when you think about going across the

816
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: spectrum of no matter what you're doing, whether you are

817
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: the athlete, whether you are the agent that you are

818
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: the coach like, relationship building is quite literally the thing

819
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: that will get you across every and all aspects of

820
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: any spectrum. You've got to know how to work within

821
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 3: your network and build your network, and it's not easy

822
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: to do that when you walking in cold You know

823
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: what I mean, because I do the same thing as

824
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: a reporter. At the end of every WNBA season, I

825
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: send thank you messages to all the PR because at

826
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: the end of the day, if it wasn't for PR,

827
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have a job. Who's the one getting me

828
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 3: the interviews, Who's the one sending me the information, Who's

829
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: the one making sure you know, we have a whole

830
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: show and we want to get somebody to come on

831
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: the show.

832
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: I got to go through PR, So I make sure

833
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: to send a thank you at the end of every season, even.

834
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: The ones that get on my damn nerves. I still

835
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: thank you. I appreciate you, I working with you. I

836
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: can't wait because you have to build that relationship. So

837
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: I love hearing that. But you know, at the end

838
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: of it all, when you look back on what you're building,

839
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 3: just what kind of legacy do you want to leave.

840
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: I mean, not just for your clients, but just for

841
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: the next generation of women that are aspiring to represent

842
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: athletes in the sports name. Just what you want the

843
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: legacy When they say, hey, you remember Lady Live Sports?

844
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: Do you remember what you want them to say?

845
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 4: I want to be a builder of more women like

846
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: me in the field, and we do. We are still

847
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: majority female, and we used to be all female, and

848
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: then my scouting my scouting team, there were the males

849
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 4: and they were like, you never talk about us.

850
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 6: So I'm like, y'all can give me for a discrimination suit.

851
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: So we started bringing We did at we did enter

852
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: a joint venture with two other male agents, so now

853
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: we can't say we're fully female.

854
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 6: We're female owned.

855
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: But I definitely think the legacy is to bring up

856
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: more females in the field. Number one, if you think

857
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: of agents, female agents period, I think there may be

858
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five certified right, not even that many with

859
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 4: players on a roster, they don't have the lips right,

860
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: And then you look at black female independent A handful

861
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: handful five maybe maybe, but they're all either in a

862
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 4: big agency, connected to an agency, connected to a group

863
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: some kind of way. But they're not independent out here there.

864
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: They have the they have the big.

865
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 6: Umbrella, the shadow to work in.

866
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: And like you said, sure with the situation, you have

867
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: agents that work in agencies.

868
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 6: Nobody knows them. And just because they work with that

869
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 6: agency doesn't mean the agents giving them the contacts or

870
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 6: their roller decks they for that agency. But I guarantee

871
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: you that agency is not sharing. They're not sharing numbers

872
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 6: to that top office. They're not doing it. You just

873
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 6: work in agency.

874
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 3: Guess what the other Greeks don't come from her neck too,

875
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 3: because half her staffs.

876
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: As she rose, I said.

877
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 6: We have we have an outphund.

878
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: We have have anur for a Kappa in a Q.

879
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: Good lord, we left me in in but.

880
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: Enjoy when that release came out. Let you let him in,

881
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: but you still you let him in.

882
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 6: But you still running the show, period, still running the show.

883
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: That's one I'm going today, he said, He said, But

884
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: I still got to bring on the big Mama.

885
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 6: I said, that's right, that's right.

886
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: I know that.

887
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 6: That's right.

888
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: I know that's right.

889
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: Listen, te, I got I got a question. I got

890
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: one more question before we get out of here. And

891
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: and I kind of hinted to this earlier. So, with

892
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 2: like the growth of the w n b A and

893
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: just all the things going on in women's sports in general,

894
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: are we going to see Lady Live representing some w

895
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: n b A players anytime soon?

896
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 6: You know what it is? I can't say that that

897
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 6: is not out of the question.

898
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 4: The reason why I say that is is that that

899
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: I have a couple people, a couple of female basketball

900
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: coaches that are definitely on my line saying you don't

901
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 4: love me like you should, and you need.

902
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: To you need to come on and represent me ask the.

903
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: WNBA, in the WNA coaching world, or definitely at the

904
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: college coaching world. So I am looking at that more

905
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: from and that's how to build a rolodex, because once

906
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 4: you represent the coaches, you now know the connections. Once

907
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 4: you got the coaches, now you know how to get

908
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: the players in the spot. So I'm not saying that

909
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 4: it's out of the question. And I actually do know

910
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 4: someone who got WNBA certified here recently, and she has

911
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 4: asked to kind of like, hey, let me kind of

912
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 4: come along so I can see it expanding. And I'm

913
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 4: not gonna lie, I'm getting older. When you said legacy

914
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: to build more female agents, to build more clout and

915
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: respect in this industry, I have thought about that and said,

916
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm about to have a son playing

917
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: college for next year, and my husband is coming off

918
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: the sideline. You know, he's getting older. It's gonna come

919
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 4: a time when I have to definitely sit at a

920
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: different space and not be chasing down sidelines.

921
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

922
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna have to build agents, yeah, to be

923
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 6: a part of this agency.

924
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, because I was thinking that same thing. If

925
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: you start to get people underneath the umbrella, you've got

926
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: some that represent NFL, some that represent w NBA, so

927
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 3: the brand still can be represented. Just that's.

928
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: Look at what Clutch did.

929
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 6: I mean what rich Fad has done.

930
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 4: Rich Fad has done a great job, and he's got

931
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: you know, Nicoleon is leading the football end of it

932
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: under that umbrella. So it does become like okay, so

933
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: let me and then agencies will come in and try

934
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: to buy your agency too, Like I want to take

935
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 4: you in you know, as a as a subsidiary, and

936
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 4: I don't know about that.

937
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know about that.

938
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: Don't do it. Since don't do it. Since don't do it, said,

939
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: let me tell you T.

940
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: I just want to follow up why I said that,

941
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: because just sitting here listening to you talk and your

942
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: leadership and just your your passion for what you do,

943
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: not saying that there aren't agents on the dou W

944
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: side that.

945
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: Aren't that passionate.

946
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: But listen, when you have a league that's I'm going

947
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: to say, eighty five ninety black women, representation does matter.

948
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: And so to have someone that looks like you, right,

949
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: and now you're talking to these women saying, just like

950
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: the men, I care about you as a woman, as

951
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: an athlete and a philanthropist in that order, don't I

952
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: don't think those conversations. There's a handful, but I don't

953
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: really think those conversations are happening as much as they should.

954
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: Be happening on the W side. And you need so

955
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: I need to have someone like you w n b A.

956
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: You need to, you need to, you need.

957
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 6: To you and you all with interview on the Healthy Mark.

958
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: Ma'am, ma'am quick Man because I want to say, Cheryl,

959
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: it's maybe what two black women is even two black

960
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: black female agents. I know Jay and she's at Clutch,

961
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 3: and I can't even think of another female black a.

962
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 6: Woman of color is a woman of.

963
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: Color former player yeap?

964
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 5: Yeah?

965
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and it's sad that that we got to

966
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: think about it, right, Jade is the one that comes

967
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 2: to mind.

968
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: She's the first one that comes to Yeah. She representing

969
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: the best of the best. And and and there are

970
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: other female agents. Lindsay's doing an amazing job at Wasserman. Yeah,

971
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: there are other female agents my homegirl. Yeah, and those

972
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: are big box, big boxes, right, Black women like we

973
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: were not really not nearly as represented on that.

974
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 4: And I will tell you when I do meet guys. Okay,

975
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: So I have heard the story of Nicole, which I

976
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: like Nicole Leon who represents football and one of the

977
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 4: things that happened, and it's definitely not my story to tell,

978
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 4: but this is how I remember the story. There was

979
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: a first she had a high level draftic that she

980
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 4: kept trying to go after and go after, and he said,

981
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 4: I'll let he was interviewing agents, I'll bring her bring

982
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: her in. And she said she worked all night and

983
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: got her stuff together and went in there and she

984
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: presented to him and he was like, he didn't have

985
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 4: no questions, you know, she said, he was just kind

986
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: of like staring. He said, the only question I have

987
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: is why don't you have any top round players.

988
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: Like you are cold blooded right?

989
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 6: And you gave her a chance.

990
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: That was it.

991
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 6: I think it was Quinn William.

992
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

993
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 4: He gave her a chance. And when he gave her

994
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 4: that chance, it transitioned his life. And he already knew

995
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: he was a top round draft pick, but he was like,

996
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 4: I want to do this for my sister, you know

997
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So it was a different and then

998
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: of course Jayleen Hurts and all of them started rolling.

999
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 4: But it's like she just needed that one that would saying,

1000
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: you know, I know this, I know this big agency,

1001
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: this big agency, that big age. And she wasn't even

1002
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 4: big clutch back then. But these big agencies are coming

1003
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 4: after me. But I see this sister hustling, and I

1004
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: know she gonna work for me. And so there are

1005
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 4: at the WNBA. I'm sure it's the same thing. You

1006
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 4: do have big agencies, and some people belong in big agencies.

1007
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: And then there's some that are like, you know what,

1008
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: I just need somebody that's gonna focus on me and

1009
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: hustle for me and gonna kill the game for me.

1010
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 6: It only focused on me. Yeah, not ten other people.

1011
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1012
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's yeah.

1013
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: I'm telling you everybody has that one that that was

1014
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: my my I'm still with the same agency, but I

1015
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 3: have a different agent now because my agent got another

1016
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: got another job at ESPN. But I'm gonna give her

1017
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 3: a shout out right now. Her name is Janey. Janey

1018
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: is a sore have you Founders Day?

1019
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: Janee. I talked to Jane.

1020
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: Earlier, but the fact that I knew, I know, and

1021
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell Jane, like, Jane,

1022
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: I know you listened to the show, but you're really

1023
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: gonna have to listen to this one because I gave

1024
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 3: you some love.

1025
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: Girl. But it was that that was the thing.

1026
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: It was. She didn't have the biggest name at the time,

1027
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: she didn't have the biggest clientele list. But when I

1028
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 3: spoke to Janey, I knew that she was going to

1029
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: have my back, that she was going to ride for me,

1030
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: that she believed in me, that she was gonna have

1031
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: the tough conversations, and she even was the one who

1032
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 3: would be like, Tea, I'm gonna need you to take

1033
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: that tweet down. Girl.

1034
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: You was doing a little too much with that one. Yeah,

1035
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: I need you to.

1036
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: I need you to, I need you to bring that

1037
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: one back because you are here a while and I'm

1038
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 3: trying to get you paid. You are here acting a

1039
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: food And I was like, I appreciate that that the

1040
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: type of those are the type of people that you

1041
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 3: need on your team, not the ones that are gonna

1042
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 3: always be like, hey, I got you, I'm gonna do this,

1043
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: but also the ones that's gonna be like, you're doing

1044
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 3: a bit too much.

1045
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: You making my job harder. Scale it back, scale it back?

1046
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 6: Do you want do you want truth? Serahmon?

1047
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: Or not exactly exactly. So, giving a shout out to

1048
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: my girl Janet. She's doing big things at ESPN L.

1049
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: But it's been amazing to have you on a show.

1050
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: Thank you so excited. I'm trying to get me in

1051
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: flight to Houston. It's a little too late, it's two fifty.

1052
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna hold it down for you. Don

1053
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: say what I'm saying and let you know I don't

1054
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: be outside. They getting me out.

1055
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: They got you outside.

1056
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: They live stream and I'm gonna be looking at the

1057
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: live stream just because I know.

1058
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: I already know y'all gonna be on that live and

1059
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: we gotta get up.

1060
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 6: We gotta get our picture.

1061
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: See what I'm saying, Yes, ma'am, Yes, M'm mess, a

1062
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: whole mess, but I want.

1063
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 6: To see y'all a y'all bring in, y'all show the super.

1064
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: Bowl right listen here. You gotta say nothing to me

1065
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna be at super Bowl anyway. Y'all know

1066
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: I'm a coach in the league, So just go ahead and.

1067
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: Ain't making it to the super Bowl.

1068
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 6: We're having a We're having a party. Our agency is

1069
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 6: having a party.

1070
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: So that's all you need to tell me.

1071
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 6: Y'all might need to y'all might need to record at

1072
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 6: the party or something.

1073
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

1074
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: You ain't gotta you, ain't got to threaten me with

1075
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 3: a good time. I'm in there.

1076
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: I love that.

1077
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 6: Get you some of the get you some people to

1078
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 6: come through their interview with.

1079
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Be a time. Listen. Yes, I love it.

1080
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, We're gonna make that happen. I love it. I

1081
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 6: love it.

1082
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

1083
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for joining us. Please enjoy

1084
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: the rest of your day. Keep killing the game, like

1085
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: just just keep killing the game, keep putting it on.

1086
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: The representation does matter, and we really appreciate it. I

1087
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: know those young men and their families appreciate it.

1088
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 6: But we appreciate you. Thank you, thank you so much. Yes,

1089
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 6: we do, thank you so much.

1090
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: So we do thank you.

1091
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 6: Follow you, follow us.

1092
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 4: Lady Lived, nineteen twenty two. If you got a client,

1093
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: got a potential player, you need to share them. It's

1094
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: that time of the year. If they going to the

1095
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 4: draft next year, you want them to play fourteen. We

1096
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 4: got to talk to them today.

1097
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that, Lady Live, nineteen twenty two. Got it

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Speaker 2: ex a instam.

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Speaker 3: Man, it was such a great conversation, man, talking to Rashida.

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00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: And it's still like I said, man, it's still funny

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Speaker 3: calling her Rashitah. I've been calling her madam grad for

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Speaker 3: the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: If ha ha ha sad, I'm just gonna call her sorrow.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, she is such a such a boss woman,

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00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: like just you know, being able to step into the

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00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: NFL space that isn't entirely over by women, let alone

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Speaker 3: Black women, and doing so at a high level, and

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00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: still recognizing that there's still things that she want to

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00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 3: learn and still things that she wants to get better at.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing but respect for her for that.

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Speaker 2: I mean I could have had this conversation with her

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00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 2: for a minute, you know, t having played the game

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00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: for so long and been in that space where you're

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00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: always trying to find the right agency or the right agent.

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: And I will say this, I was very fortunate to

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00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: have worked with some amazing women, some amazing agents. But

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Speaker 2: what I loved about this conversation with Rashida is one

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00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: the realness and how she talked about you know, for them,

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Speaker 2: it's all about the man, the athlete, the philanthropist in

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Speaker 2: that order. There aren't a lot of agents or agencies

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00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: out there who honestly care about anything other than how

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: many dollars can you put it in my pocket?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And so I what I want, and I'm gonna put

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Speaker 2: it out there because I just said it to her. Rashida,

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00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: you need to come on over to this side and

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Speaker 2: rep some of these WNBA players.

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Speaker 3: Six, yeah, one hundred.

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Speaker 1: We'll just put it out there.

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00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: One hundred percent agree like someone of her caliber, with

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Speaker 3: her values, in her philosophy, and how she has mentored

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00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: young men. And we've already seen how she's mentored young women,

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00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: just based on what she's already done through her sorority life,

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00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: what she's done through other businesses, and even through her

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00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: NFL agency where she hires other women. She talked about,

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00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: you know, we finally added some dudes, We finally got

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00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: some men because she was women driven. So we know, okay,

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00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: how much she can mentor important young women. We've already

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00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: seen it. So it'd be great if she came over

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00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 3: to the WNBA. But thanks for you know, thanks for

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00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: jumping on, thanks for having the time to come and

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00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: kick it with us. And if you guys loved Rashida

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00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: as much as we did, we definitely want you guys

1145
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: to let us know and tell us about that. But

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00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: it's time for us to level out with our girlcial swoop.

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00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: So it says what you what you got for us today?

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Speaker 2: You know what this is just listening to Rashida talk

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00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: and knowing how she cares about her her athletes and

1150
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: her people and all the things that she does for them.

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00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: I just felt this was fitting for not just this

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00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: conversation but in general, real simple y'all. And it says,

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00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: surround yourself with women who pray behind your back.

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Speaker 3: M h.

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Speaker 6: M.

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Speaker 2: Surround yourself with women who pray behind your back?

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00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: Why is that important?

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00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: Because to me, it's the same thing as make sure

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00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: you got friends who are are lifting you up and

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00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: putting your name in rooms that you're not in. To me,

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00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: that's how you know you got real true not only friendships,

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: but people who care about you and only want good

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: things for you.

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Speaker 1: And I'm cool.

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00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: You can be like, say, someone pray for you, Okay, great,

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00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: you can tell me that, but are you really doing

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00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: that behind my back? That's what I need.

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Speaker 3: Right right, and I need to make sure to say

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00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: you pray like p r a y, not like p

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Speaker 3: r e y.

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Speaker 6: You feel me?

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Speaker 2: So thank you, yeah, thank you, thank you, yeah b

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Speaker 2: r a y thank you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, because we got we got some of the

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Speaker 2: We got some of those pr e ys too.

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Speaker 3: And they will absolutely pray behind your back. What at

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Speaker 3: a heartby So there's that. But no, that's a very

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Speaker 3: good one. Thanks for sharing that great info. As always,

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01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 3: you always have some great positive uplifting messages for us

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,040
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01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,800
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01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,720
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