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Speaker 1: All that was nasty right there, right, The latest news

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Speaker 4: Break it on, Break it on.

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Speaker 3: Tukdown Saving Colin slammed the ground by fooda baker like

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Speaker 3: a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I skirtin nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: All right at the NFL combine.

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Speaker 3: The sport is football, there's also the beloved American sport

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Speaker 3: of people watching.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got the future NFL stars, you got

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Speaker 3: the rock star head coaches, you have high profile gms,

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Speaker 3: the mega media members. In fact, hey, look out in Indy,

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Speaker 3: it's Darren Urban and Danny Sirek. You're on Cardinals Underground

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Speaker 3: Brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. How's it going

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Speaker 3: in Indianapolis?

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Speaker 4: It's funny.

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Speaker 5: It's funny you bring that up, Paul, because our own

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Speaker 5: Kevin Wang actually was just saying that earlier, about how

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Speaker 5: starstruck he was of all the people he sing around here.

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Speaker 2: All right, name some names, drop some names come on now.

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Speaker 4: He actually he actually said Danny Siak.

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Speaker 6: I didn't believe him.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Yeah, Mike McDaniel, I think was a was a

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Speaker 5: good one for him.

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Speaker 3: M okay, yes, what about Jim Harbo. Have you seen

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Speaker 3: Jim Harball yet? I mean, you know there's the Andy

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Speaker 3: Reids obviously.

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Speaker 4: I saw any reader, course there is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he won.

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Speaker 4: A Super Bowl, Paul, I didn't know if you know that.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 6: Well, all right, so look, and Craig Grilou is out

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Speaker 6: here this year too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Are you guys keeping here tabs on? Craig Griolou? You

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Speaker 3: sure you sure everything's good with we're doing our bags? Okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean he picked up the tab at the bar

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Speaker 3: last night.

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Speaker 4: Really props to Craig.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, when you're primarily responsible for most of

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Speaker 3: the tab that really it's it's your duty, So that's

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Speaker 3: good by Craig.

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Speaker 7: Griolou all right, or Craig cannot have he doesn't have

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Speaker 7: a headset on. But he's sitting at the table with us, Paul,

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Speaker 7: so he could see Darren and myself laughing at something

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Speaker 7: regarding him.

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Speaker 6: But he's gonna have to wait to tune in to

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Speaker 6: hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: The best Griolou is agrilla who can't defend himself, so

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Speaker 3: that's really good. Also true, speaking of name dropping, hot

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Speaker 3: off the podium would be Jonathan Gannon, preceded by many

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Speaker 3: Austin Ford. So here we go in three two one,

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Speaker 3: you tell us from Indy. You were both there in

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Speaker 3: the front row takeaways.

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Speaker 2: What moved the meter?

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Speaker 6: Let's start with general manager and money. Austin for it.

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Speaker 7: He talked first Tuesday afternoon. Had a lot of pretty

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Speaker 7: interesting things to say right off the bat, though, Aaron

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Speaker 7: knowing what they have in their franchise quarterback Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 7: And while that wasn't necessarily a question last year, Murray

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Speaker 7: was rehabbing through his ACL injury, so it was really

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Speaker 7: based off a lot of film. The Cardinals got a

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Speaker 7: good chance of what he can do out on the field.

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Speaker 7: Played in eight games this year. Awesome Fort talked about

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Speaker 7: how well Kyler played with his arm, his legs, and

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Speaker 5: I just want to before I get too deep into

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Speaker 5: the MONI comments, Danny, I do want to go. It's

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Speaker 5: been quite the twenty four hours. I'm not sure where

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Speaker 5: this all got off the rails. There was a simple

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was three words, by the way, our franchise QB.

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Speaker 3: And it turned into like a national ink blot test.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure why We've had this plan for

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Speaker 4: There'll be a couple other ones. That's all this was.

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Speaker 5: And it kind of cracks me up that it dominated

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Speaker 4: But that being said, Danny, I do think they are.

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Speaker 5: Look, you are in a better position when you have

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Speaker 4: The end of the year from him.

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Speaker 5: And we've talked about this on the podcast a bunch

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Speaker 5: give them in the context of the combine. What it

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Speaker 5: really does is it gives them flexibility. Now MANI was clear,

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Speaker 5: we still evaluate everybody, including all the quarterbacks, which every

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Speaker 5: you're going to evaluate all the players. But it does

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Speaker 5: give them a flexibility depending on what happens to those

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Speaker 4: So I do think they're in a good place right now.

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Speaker 5: It's funny that you bring up the quarterback thing because

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Speaker 5: I asked Moni about needing a veteran backup quarterback and

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Speaker 5: And while there is some benefits to having a veteran

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Speaker 5: the best quarterback backing up Kyler Murray. Now that still

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Speaker 5: But that I felt like those kind of went hand

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Speaker 3: You mean, your question, Darren didn't revolve around bow Nix

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Speaker 3: going to the Cardinals in number twenty seven acording to

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Speaker 3: the CBS Sports mock draft that's out this week. You

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Speaker 5: And it's funny because one of the questions in the

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Speaker 5: could all those mock picks be made and not one

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Speaker 2: It's true, it's a good point. It's a good point.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I'll just say this about about bon Nicks,

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Speaker 3: in fact, our new hashtag around here is let there

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Speaker 2: Okay four. That's what you need, is the mean.

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Speaker 4: While we were traveling yesterday, Paul, is that where you

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Speaker 4: were working on the new hashtag.

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Speaker 3: The folks in R and D A, KELVC consulting that,

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Speaker 3: so they came up with let there be a fourth QB.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, it's tough now, JJ McCarthy is

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Speaker 3: called adjusted completion percentage. Now, I'm not gonna get into

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Speaker 3: all this, and I'm on camera here telling everyone vowing

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Speaker 3: no math all right, I still live by that hashtag

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Speaker 3: things like drops and throwaways, kneel down spikes, all that

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Speaker 3: Bow Knicks. He's highly competitive. He didn't bag out of

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, there's a couple of candidates

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Speaker 7: Basically, not because the Cardinals need a quarter but starting quarterback.

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Speaker 7: But it would be great for these quarterbacks to have

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Speaker 7: because that just gives the Cardinals that much more leverage

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Speaker 6: They proved that last year.

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Speaker 7: The Cardinals are content wherever they are in staying put,

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Speaker 5: I did find that that did catch my ear for

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Speaker 5: as close to the vest as Maniac and Fort keeps himself,

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Speaker 5: which is incredibly close to the vest. Somebody asked about

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's any lock to say, Okay, a

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Speaker 5: you're definitely taking them. And if he's not your trading

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and from what NFL draft analysts are saying, it's

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Speaker 7: a large part because of how deep the wide receivers

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Speaker 7: and the offensive tackles classes are this year two big

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Speaker 6: It almost kind of feels like a win win.

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Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, you can find a immediate playmaker starter with

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Speaker 7: the fourth overall pick. The Cardinals could also trade down

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Speaker 7: a couple of spots. I'm not so sure that I'm

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Speaker 7: like somebody on this podcast might be. But the Cardinals

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Speaker 7: would have options if they decide to trade down a

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Speaker 3: Look, you're so deep at tackle, you're so deep at

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Speaker 3: Dare I say late first round, number twenty seven and

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Speaker 7: Look, truly, Paul is crazy at or you know, cliche

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Speaker 7: it doesn't seem like and they're going to be in

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Speaker 5: And that's what I keep coming back to whenever we

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Speaker 5: because you're thinking they could improve that. Oh yeah, they

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Speaker 5: But I think where they are, I one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: In a better place. So they're actually going under draft.

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Speaker 3: Listen to yourself, Let's translate what you just said. The

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Speaker 3: even though he did say on Marvin Harrison Junior, I

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Speaker 3: I mean, how significant was that We've done a lot

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna do that at the combine?

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Speaker 6: Are you doing a low clickbait, Paul?

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Speaker 2: You gotta play to the audience. You gotta play. It's

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Speaker 7: Every other team are doing deep evaluations on players that

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Speaker 6: And it's a position of need.

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Speaker 7: Of course, the Cardinals are going to do their due diligence.

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Speaker 7: Neither Jonathan Gannon Normani Osenborg talked about specific player evaluations,

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Speaker 6: So long ago, not that long. I know you were

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Speaker 7: But I would not expect either Gannon or Awesome for

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Speaker 4: I don't want to.

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Speaker 7: Of course, they are doing their due diligence and doing

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Speaker 6: Or if he's not.

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Speaker 5: No, and and again I think ultimately, Paul, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's funny. At one point somebody asked Gannon right at

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Speaker 2: You can always ask.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that's a really good trial though.

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Speaker 5: His after his answer, he's like Jonathananna was.

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Speaker 2: Like got them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was just really strange, strange question just because

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Speaker 4: I think they've done a lot of work on Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 5: But my guess is, especially with the way Money Awesome

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Speaker 4: A lot of guys.

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Speaker 5: That's just what they do. And I think you could

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Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting is I have a hard time arguing

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Speaker 3: could easily argue that the three best players, regardless of

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Speaker 3: So I'm asking you, I'm asking you, guys, would that

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Speaker 2: Say?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: So, rhetorical question, I mean, it certainly is gonna give

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Speaker 5: a couple things into this number one. What does that

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Speaker 5: because if they hit on their franchise quarterback the Raiders, dude,

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Speaker 5: they're gonna be a much better team and you're gonna

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Speaker 5: that third quarterback is still there because if there's a

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Speaker 3: Well, you're still not playing favorites. I'm saying he's the

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Speaker 2: Just give me the fourth quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I guess my point is is, by the time you

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Speaker 5: the price is not gonna be as high. If you're

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Speaker 6: Draft, I would be okay.

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Speaker 7: I think moving down at thirteen, if that's everything the

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Speaker 3: By the way, MANI, as you guys just recounted, he's

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Speaker 2: So I just you know.

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Speaker 3: And then he was asked to follow up on this.

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Speaker 5: Interesting, that would be so interesting because because it also

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Speaker 4: That was not wrong.

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Speaker 5: going to make that determination well ahead of the draft,

441
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Speaker 5: and we'll have some clarity there. That's the one kind

442
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Speaker 5: of trade that can happen before you're on the clock, and.

443
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Speaker 7: Especially if you're going to use that pick for a

444
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Speaker 7: franchise quarter number one, you mean.

445
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Speaker 6: Right, yeah, you want more time. It wouldn't be a secret,

446
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Speaker 6: so I would hope that they would.

447
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Speaker 4: Were you not learn twenty.

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Speaker 6: Nineteen, I was not.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well it played out a little differently for a

450
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Speaker 5: certain team.

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Speaker 6: That's fair.

452
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Speaker 7: Well, I would be doing it right though by feels

453
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Speaker 7: of giving him that opportunity.

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Speaker 3: You did get the sense though that the Bears GM

455
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Speaker 3: Ryan Polls and Sean Payton to a large degree, they're

456
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Speaker 3: saying without saying, you know, hey, make us your best

457
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Speaker 3: offer right now, NFL.

458
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Speaker 5: Well, the the Broncos thing is a whole different deal

459
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Speaker 5: because Russell Wilson has owed some kind of crazy guaranteed money,

460
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Speaker 5: like on March seventeenth or something, so like they've got

461
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Speaker 5: to make a decision or they're going to be doling

462
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Speaker 5: out millions of dollars for a guy that they don't want.

463
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Speaker 5: So that makes more sense to me. The Bears thing

464
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Speaker 5: is a little bit different of a situation. But you're

465
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Speaker 5: also if you're the Bears, you would figure that Justin

466
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Speaker 5: Fields has got a much bigger market than Russell Wilson does.

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Speaker 4: At this point.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's interesting the GM Ryan Polls of

469
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Speaker 3: the Bears was asked whether he sees similarities between Caleb

470
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Speaker 3: Williams and Patrick Mahomes, and he cited former Cardinals tight

471
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Speaker 3: end and current Bears personnel executive Jeff King Jeff Gang.

472
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Speaker 3: Jeff King has a saying. Ryan Poles quoted that when

473
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Speaker 3: it comes to quarterbacks, there are artists and there are surgeons.

474
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Speaker 3: There are two times of quarterbacks, and so he cited

475
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Speaker 3: the artistry of a Caleb Williams in some ways like

476
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Speaker 3: of Patrick Mahomes, and that was sort of the correlation

477
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Speaker 3: he made. He answered it without really answering the question,

478
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Speaker 3: but he did go on to stude out the benefits

479
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Speaker 3: of having a rookie quarterback contract versus paying fifty million

480
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Speaker 3: plus to Justin Fields.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this question though, as you bring

482
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Speaker 5: that up about Mahomes and capable, I'm like, I'm curious

483
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Speaker 5: what you two think.

484
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Speaker 4: I'm not I understand why people do it. I'm not

485
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Speaker 4: a huge fan of like talking about a rookie with

486
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Speaker 4: Patrick mont.

487
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Speaker 7: That just seems he's never had an NFL snap, one

488
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Speaker 7: of the best to ever do it.

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Speaker 5: I don't care if you're just saying, well, I'm only

490
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Speaker 5: saying I'm comparing it to because of this one part

491
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Speaker 5: of his game.

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Speaker 4: I still think it's unfair.

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Speaker 6: That's just me hundred percent. I agree. I don't think

494
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Speaker 6: that's fair to put.

495
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Speaker 7: That expectation on somebody who hasn't even been drafted yet.

496
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Speaker 5: Although I guess you're probably not going to say this

497
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Speaker 5: guy is reminds me so much of Blaine Gabbert it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: It does have the uber potential to become fodder for

499
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Speaker 3: cold takes exposed in a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

501
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Speaker 3: There's there's definitely a risk to answering that question or

502
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Speaker 3: at least throwing out that that comparison. There's no doubt

503
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Speaker 3: about it. By the way, the Vikings GM called Justin

504
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Speaker 3: Jefferson quote the best receiver, the best non quarterback in

505
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Speaker 3: the NFL period, and he should be compensated as such,

506
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Speaker 3: and quote.

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Speaker 4: We just walked right into that pen of paper.

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Speaker 3: Where goes your leverage? Now if you're the Vikings GM,

509
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Speaker 3: or is that like a shout out to his owner

510
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Speaker 3: That didn't seem didn't seem like the GM and the

511
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Speaker 3: ownership group. Maybe is in a sync on that one.

512
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Speaker 7: Maybe trying to get the player to trust you that

513
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Speaker 7: you're trying to work on something and maybe not.

514
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Speaker 4: That is wow.

515
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Speaker 3: Okay, So how much buzz is there an indie over

516
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Speaker 3: the salary cap and the increase of what nearly thirty million,

517
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Speaker 3: you go from about two twenty five to two fifty

518
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Speaker 3: five next year?

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Speaker 2: How significant is that? How much talk is that getting Well.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be honest right now, it's been a long

521
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Speaker 5: kind of day in a vacuum for us, Paul. We're

522
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Speaker 5: still trying to find all our video cameras. Uh shout

523
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Speaker 5: out a certain delivery.

524
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Speaker 3: Service there was the ball security was not good with

525
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Speaker 3: the cameras.

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Speaker 2: We we had a fumble. What's going on? Just yeah,

527
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Speaker 2: all right?

528
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Speaker 7: We didn't do anything else is end that delivered all

529
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Speaker 7: but one case. In that case happened to be the

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Speaker 7: most important. However, the group that we traveled with handled

531
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Speaker 7: the university well adjusted and figured out and Sam Huff

532
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Speaker 7: and Kevin Wang and found a really nice plan BI.

533
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Speaker 6: So we're working with.

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Speaker 2: That called an audible. There you are on camera, go ahead.

535
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Speaker 4: We're still you're still watching us on this on this telecast.

536
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Speaker 4: The buzz I don't.

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Speaker 5: I haven't gotten a lot of sense of the cap,

538
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Speaker 5: to be honest, No cap, that's right. I think at

539
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Speaker 5: this point there's been a lot more just about what

540
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Speaker 5: we've already talked about, which is what's going to happen

541
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Speaker 5: with Russell Wilson obviously, but mostly it feels like what's

542
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Speaker 5: going to happen with the number one pick slash Justin Fields.

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Speaker 4: It feels like that was the big storyline today.

544
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Speaker 1: Now.

545
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Speaker 5: I know that was in big part because Ryan Poles,

546
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Speaker 5: the Bears general manager, talked, and that tends to drive things,

547
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Speaker 5: and we'll start having players talk starting tomorrow. But that

548
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Speaker 5: feels like the biggest story out here is is like

549
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Speaker 5: how is that going to impact stuff? And that goes

550
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Speaker 5: back to what we were talking too. It's like, I

551
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Speaker 5: think at this point everybody kind of feels like Caleb

552
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Speaker 5: Williams is going to be the number one overall pick,

553
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Speaker 5: even if the Bears didn't take him.

554
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Speaker 4: I think the Bears are going to take him. But

555
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Speaker 4: even if he wasn't, he's the number one pick.

556
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Speaker 5: But when we start talking about the Cardinals and what

557
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Speaker 5: could happen, well, then Justin Field's going to a quarterback

558
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Speaker 5: needy team instead of them wanting to trade up and

559
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Speaker 5: get a rookie that impacts the Cardinals because that's one

560
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Speaker 5: less team that you might want to have. And you

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Speaker 5: keep talking. For instance, Paul puts, actually, let's say the

562
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Speaker 5: Raiders at thirteen. Well, I'd rather go back to eight

563
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Speaker 5: than thirteen. But if the Falcons have Justin Fields, it's

564
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Speaker 5: a moot point.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, yes, Justin Field's going to Atlanta takes out

567
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Speaker 3: one big potential trade partner.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: I guess what I'm driving at with the whole salary

570
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Speaker 3: cap thing is based on overthecap dot com Cardinals are

571
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Speaker 3: at about fifty five million in available well, ninth most

572
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. Now in terms of real available cap

573
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Speaker 3: money you can spend, it's a little under fifty million

574
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Speaker 3: in reality for the most part. But like you see

575
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Speaker 3: the NFL dot com headline and I quote Cardinals GM

576
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Speaker 3: Montiosifford plans to spend in free agency but warns of

577
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Speaker 3: dangers of over pain. They were doing that off his

578
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Speaker 3: radio interview recently with the Cardinals flagship radio station, So okay,

579
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Speaker 3: And I know he was asked about it, right Danny

580
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Speaker 3: Today maniasifor was asked about free agency, are you guys

581
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Speaker 3: getting in a gut feel are they going to be

582
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Speaker 3: in it on? The first wave is going to be

583
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Speaker 3: the second wave? I mean, to what degree are they

584
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Speaker 3: going to be spenders come March thirteenth?

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Speaker 7: It felt like the Cardinals are going to be big spenders,

586
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Speaker 7: very intentionally and for specific either positions or players.

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Speaker 6: Awesome for It and Gannon a little bit.

588
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Speaker 7: As well talked about the philosophy of having to address

589
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Speaker 7: these needs in draft and free agency and the differences

590
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Speaker 7: and the challenge when it comes to free agency. According

591
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Speaker 7: to Maani, Awesome for It is not only the player evaluation,

592
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Speaker 7: also the valuation, and he says that the market isn't

593
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Speaker 7: going to really declare itself until free agency hits, which

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Speaker 7: is March eleventh.

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Speaker 5: March eleventh is when they can start quote unquote tampering

596
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Speaker 5: right the thirteenth is.

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Speaker 7: The first thing, and so at that point a couple

598
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Speaker 7: of weeks get a better feel for what players are

599
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Speaker 7: asking for and what is a fair price for teams

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Speaker 7: to offer and negotiate in that sense. Austin Ford did

601
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Speaker 7: say though, that if the right opportunity presents itself to

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Speaker 7: expect the Cardinals to quote strike and quote be aggressive,

603
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Speaker 7: which was interesting for him to say. However, I take

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Speaker 7: that Darren as not just spending money to spend money

605
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Speaker 7: and attack these spots hopefully for me on defense, but

606
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Speaker 7: more so being very intentional about what you are doing

607
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Speaker 7: in free agency. And what I thought was interesting that

608
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Speaker 7: Gannon talked about was saying, ideally for the Cardinals this year,

609
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Speaker 7: you build your team and you grow with the players

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Speaker 7: from last year's draft, this year's draft, and next year's draft,

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Speaker 7: and you use free agency to supplement those I feel.

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Speaker 4: And Paul, you've been around this lone. I mean, it

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Speaker 4: feels like.

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Speaker 5: We've heard, we hear every year how the team is

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Speaker 5: going to be aggressive in free agency, and I do

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Speaker 5: think that's true. I mean, you can be aggressive in

617
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Speaker 5: free agency, and like Danny said, it doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 5: going to be spending on splashy contracts. And I still

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Speaker 5: do not anticipate, do not expect some big, giant signings

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Speaker 5: of giant names or humongous deals. I know that a

621
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Speaker 5: couple of guys that people were trying to connect to

622
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Speaker 5: the Cardinals have been tagged or are going to be tagged,

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Speaker 5: and that just basically takes them out of the equation.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know if there's going to be There

626
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Speaker 5: could be, but I don't know if there's going to

627
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Speaker 5: be some kind of like poster child for like this.

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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty four, this guy was the cardinals gigantic signing.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure that's so much as awesome for its philosophy.

630
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Speaker 7: I think that could change in the future. I think

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Speaker 7: just where the Cardinals are, yeah, in the second year

632
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Speaker 7: under his say rain, but under his leadership and with Gannon,

633
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Speaker 7: and where this team is, the Cardinals are not at

634
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Speaker 7: a point to be as aggressive and competitive as other

635
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Speaker 7: teams around the league that are really only missing maybe one.

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Speaker 6: Or two splash signings.

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Speaker 7: So you'd have to find the right veteran that fits

638
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Speaker 7: the culture, fits the scheme, and also the player that

639
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Speaker 7: is in the part of their career we're coming to Arizona.

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Speaker 7: Makes sense knowing that it's still probably going to be

641
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Speaker 7: another one to three years to really be set and

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Speaker 7: have that true foundation. The Cardinals are still in that

643
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Speaker 7: transition period, which affects the type of veteran players that

644
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 7: are going to want to come here and how much

645
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Speaker 7: money you're going to want to spend on a veteran player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I see the NFL dot com ranking this

647
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Speaker 3: week in the top one hundred and one free agents

648
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, and I'll just give you the top

649
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Speaker 3: six real quick. Chris Jones, Kirk Cousins, Josh Allen, Christian Wilkins,

650
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Speaker 3: Brian Burns, Lugerius Snead. Now, I would say every one

651
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Speaker 3: of those guys is going back to their own team effect.

652
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Speaker 3: Most of their gms went on the record here at

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Speaker 3: the combine and say, hey, if they don't sign, we're

654
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Speaker 3: going to tag them. With the exception of the Chiefs,

655
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Speaker 3: can they really afford to bring back Chris Jones and

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Speaker 3: Lugerious Snead?

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Speaker 5: And so, though I don't mean to jump in here,

658
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Speaker 5: but I did see a tweet which I thought was interesting.

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Speaker 5: Although I don't think they can tag Jones or they

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Speaker 5: wouldn't at his number, there is a lot of conversation

661
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Speaker 5: about tagging Snead, So then Jones would be the potentially

662
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Speaker 5: the one. I don't know that that's a fascinating one

663
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: because it leads back into what you were just talking about.

664
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Speaker 6: Point.

665
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a mutual interest, you know. I mean

666
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: he's on the record, Chris Jones. You know, whether he's

667
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: under the influence or not at the at the parade,

668
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: but you know he very much wants to come back

669
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: to Kansas City. Andy Reid and the gm Bret Veach,

670
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: they're both saying they want to back. So you figure

671
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: there's a pathway to getting that dumb sum somehow, some way.

672
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm just speculating that if if you add a top

673
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: notch Pro Bowl defensive lineman or corner somehow hit the

674
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: open market, considering the paucity, the dearth of talent and

675
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: those two position rooms for the Arizona Cardinals, I could

676
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: see big money being spent on those two position groups

677
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: in particular because where you stand right now, there is

678
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: a lot to be determined on the depth chart at

679
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: corner and a defensive line That makes a lot.

680
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Speaker 6: Of sense, Paul.

681
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 7: Also because the really only other position that would kind

682
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 7: of pop out would be an edge rusher, and that's

683
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 7: such a premium position that that's going to cost so

684
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 7: much money. And again you're having to find a veteran

685
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 7: player where it makes sense financially for the Cardinals to

686
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 7: pay that. And also the player that's at a part

687
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 7: in their career we're coming to Arizona makes sense.

688
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 6: I do think it.

689
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 7: Would make more sense of those three to look at

690
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 7: the trenches and the line of scrimmage for a defensive

691
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 7: lineman and a cornerback, and I do think that makes

692
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 7: a lot of sense.

693
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 6: You would actually ask that.

694
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 7: Question, I believe, to Gannon about having a game wrecker

695
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 7: on the line of scrimmage, a defensive lineman and attacking

696
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 7: a position that position with think a veteran player was

697
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 7: your question.

698
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Speaker 4: I didn't necessarily say. What my question was is how

699
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: easy is it to get that guy? I mean you could,

700
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 4: that's right.

701
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 5: However, you either find it, whether it's a free like

702
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: we talk about this all the time, what you really

703
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 5: need a game record and go, okay, that's fine, But like,

704
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: how many of those guys really exist, truly exist? And

705
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: I think Gannon hit it on the head when we

706
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: talk about that kind of guy. It's a guy who

707
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 5: can do it against the run and the past. I

708
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 5: think there are guys that can wreck the run. I

709
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 5: think there are guys that can pass rush really well interior,

710
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 5: but they might not be as good at the flip

711
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 5: side of it. And when you're talking about and again,

712
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 5: Aaron Donald is unbelievable, He's the ultimate. Chris Jones is

713
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 5: another guy. But like, there's not that many guys around,

714
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: And when you start talking about premium positions and what

715
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: could impact your team the most, you start wondering about that. Now,

716
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a guy this year in the draft,

717
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 5: let's say, to go at four that fits that bill.

718
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: There's not a Jalen Carter necessarily.

719
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 5: But you know, when we start talking about what really

720
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 5: makes a difference on this team, you know, is it

721
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: a Marvin Harrison type or would it be something else exactly?

722
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: And that's you know, look, no one has a greater

723
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: affinity for an edge rusher right here, right now than yours.

724
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: Truly.

725
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: Next gen stat just put out something this last week.

726
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: Twelve of the fourteen playoff teams finished in the top

727
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 3: half of the NFL and pressure rate Cardinals are twenty ninth.

728
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: But if you're playing a game tomorrow, you could run

729
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: out b Jo Jalari and Xavin Collins as your two

730
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: edge guys. A first rounder and a second rounder. Who

731
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: exactly are you putting on the field at corner or

732
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: defensive line? So My argument would be, when you hit

733
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: free agency, guess what you might have to overspend to

734
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: some degree, especially when you have around fifty million in

735
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: available cap space. There are wants in there are needs,

736
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: and when I look at corner and D line right now,

737
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: I think it's more of a need than it is

738
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: a want. And I'm wondering how much that moves the

739
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: meter creates urgency for Manti Asin For the other thing.

740
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 7: To consider, Paul, we are not aware of the rehab

741
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 7: progress that defensive lineman Carlos Watkins LJ. Collier have made

742
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 7: since missing most of the season with biceps injuries. We

743
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 7: don't know the plan to bring back a Lucky Foto

744
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 7: And maybe the Cardinals feel that with a healthy Walkeets

745
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 7: and Collier and having FO two that they can get

746
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 7: enough of what they want and then they can focus

747
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 7: on free agency and spending the big bucks on cornerback.

748
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 6: That's the possibility of just.

749
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 7: We're not in the know in terms of that that

750
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 7: progress there.

751
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 6: But I do agree with you you You actually bring

752
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 6: up some good points, Paul.

753
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 7: We might not agree with maybe train it down all

754
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 7: the way to thirteen. They do agree with you there

755
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 7: on where to spend the big bucks in free agency.

756
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 5: The other thing, too, is and this is where it

757
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 5: gets tough. It's like you say, you might have to overpay,

758
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: but the question is how much do you overpay? Like

759
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 5: I get overpaying to a certain extent, but there are

760
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: levels of overpayment as well, And then you've got to

761
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: make that decision. Okay, I think I think this player

762
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: is a two million dollar year player. Is he willing

763
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 5: to take three million or four million or is he

764
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 5: looking for eight million?

765
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 7: You know, you're gonna have to continue to pay players

766
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 7: for the next couple of years to finish this transition period.

767
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: Look many Austin for the GM and the owner Michael

768
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: Bidwell on the Cardinals flagship radio station, both used the

769
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: words very active in free agency. The question is what

770
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 3: does that mean? Yeah, that is that a top line?

771
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: Is that a second tier? Is it a third tier?

772
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: And I get it. It's fraught with danger, the whole

773
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: Jordan Phillips thing. It still stings, so you got to

774
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: make sure, you know. But if, for example, there's the

775
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: equivalent of a Kaizer White out there, which the Cardinals

776
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: obviously felt very comfortable in signing Kaizer White to the

777
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: most money of any free agent they paid last offseason.

778
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: Why because Jonathan Aana and Nick rosis knew him, knew

779
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: him inside and out. They knew what they were getting,

780
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: what they could count on. They knew that what the

781
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 3: impact you would have on the defense. So if perhaps

782
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: there's a corner or a d lineman or an edge

783
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: rusher out there that someone on the coaching staff or

784
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: the front office has an intimate knowledge of and feel

785
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: really confident and comfortable and investing big money into, you know,

786
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the key unknowns right now

787
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: for the Cardinals as we go into this off season.

788
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 4: I think that's fair. And again.

789
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 5: We don't know all the information that they're always gonna have,

790
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 5: right So, like you you mentioned kay Zier White, we

791
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 5: in fact earlier in the thing when I was talking

792
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 5: about how they're still going to do the evaluations on

793
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks. One of the reasons teams do all the

794
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 5: work on all these players isn't just to prepare for

795
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 5: the draft. It's also for down the road if they

796
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 5: become a free agent in three four years. You've already

797
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: done a bunch of work on them in terms of

798
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: the kind of people they are and all that stuff.

799
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 5: So there's less work to do when you're trying to

800
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 5: figure out if you want to sign them as a

801
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 5: free agent. And those are the things we're not going

802
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 5: to know. We're not going to have access to how

803
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 5: they feel about certainty guys. And that's why when you

804
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 5: look at the free agent market, that's why it gets dangerous,

805
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 5: is because everybody he's just working on this, like you

806
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 5: just mentioned it, like the nfl dot Com Top one

807
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: hundred one list. I'm not saying that's what teams do,

808
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 5: but all the fans are out looking at those names

809
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 5: in that order and how that might work. And it

810
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 5: might not be, it might not look anything. There might

811
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 5: be half those guys aren't on the Cardinals board for

812
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 5: one reason or another that we just don't know about.

813
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: And then there's always look, there's the danger and free

814
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: agency of overpain obviously, and then there's a danger in

815
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: the draft of overthinking it. You see where David Carr

816
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: and NFL Network came out to bring it back to

817
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: quarterbacks because it always comes back to quarterbacks, especially this

818
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: time of year.

819
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 7: Come on now, JJ McCarthy, Paul no hashtag a fourth QB.

820
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, Let there be a fourth QB. Indeed

821
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: that is okay. So there show me the David Carr

822
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: former number one pick overall. NFL network analyst went on

823
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: the air one to this big explanation of how the

824
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: Bears system, the offensive system by new oc Shane Waldron,

825
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: formerly a Seattle is a quote bad fit for Caleb Williams,

826
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: and that Jayden Daniels is a perfect fit for the

827
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: Bears offense. So that raised an eyebrow, and then he

828
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: went on to say that Cliff Kingsbury sitting there at

829
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: number two, quote, that's a great spot for Caleb, that

830
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: would be ideal end quote to your you guys, put

831
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: your finger to the wind there in Indianapolis and take

832
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: the temperature. I mean, is there any chatter that if

833
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: the Bears or is there any real distinct possibility that

834
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is not going number one overall?

835
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I think back what year was twenty eighteen?

836
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 5: I mean, nobody until we got right on top of

837
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 5: the draft. Did anybody think Baker Mayfield was going number

838
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 5: one that year? I don't think some good point yeah,

839
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't be completely stunned if it happened. I mean,

840
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 5: I'm sure the Bears are sitting back, going, Oh, we

841
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 5: would love for the commanders to a want Caleb Williams

842
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 5: and then be give us something to flip flop picks

843
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 5: with them. But if Washington starts getting convinced that they

844
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: might not take care of it, but maybe not.

845
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: I don't know.

846
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: It's a fascinating question. But I will say this, Paul,

847
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 5: Thank freaking God, we're not in the middle of it.

848
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: It's right.

849
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 4: I'd rather not deal with that.

850
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. No, that is true. All right?

851
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: So what else between Jonathan Gann and Mani asin for

852
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: it meeting the media? Any other questions? Any other answers

853
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 3: stand out?

854
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: You know what?

855
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 2: Too?

856
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: Was there anything the national media was hammering? Any sort

857
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: of narratives? I mean, what other takeaways did you guys have?

858
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 6: Nothing crazy from national media? Not a surprise.

859
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 7: But I had asked Mani Ausin for it about picking

860
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 7: up Zavi and Collins' fifth year option. The Cardinals do

861
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 7: have a couple of months in May before they have

862
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 7: to make that final decision, and I had asked, is

863
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 7: one year of a position change being pushed outside enough

864
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 7: to make an evaluation? So you have a clear understanding,

865
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 7: although the Cardinals don't really have a choe. I said,

866
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 7: that's the hand that they have been dealt, and he

867
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 7: had nothing but good things to say about Collins and

868
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 7: the strides that he made throughout the year and the

869
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 7: reps that he got staying healthy. Austin Ford was saying

870
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 7: that he has expectations for Collins to make a big jump,

871
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 7: and they haven't made that decision about whether or not

872
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 7: to pick up the fifth year option, and it's not

873
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 7: just considering compiling a roster for twenty twenty four that

874
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 7: also plays a heavy hand in twenty twenty five. So

875
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 7: not really a surprise there, but something to hear from him.

876
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 7: I also really liked the accountability when it comes to

877
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 7: the culture.

878
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 6: That's been a buzzword.

879
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 7: We've talked about that the last year since Austin for

880
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 7: It and Gannon were hired. Both of them talked about

881
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 7: though that this part this week is such a big

882
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 7: process of finding the right fit for the type of

883
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 7: person off the field and player on the field, and

884
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 7: having what Gannon likes to say is winning behavior, those

885
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 7: daily habits consistently putting the team ahead of the individual,

886
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 7: because when you start winning as a team, those personal

887
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 7: accolades follow. And I like that awesome for it to

888
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 7: responsibility and accountability, saying he owes it to the players

889
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 7: in the locker room to find the right type of

890
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 7: fit of players to bring in, whether through draft or

891
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 7: free agency. It's always nice to hear when one of

892
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 7: those two and normally both speak about that.

893
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 6: With accountability, I've talked.

894
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 5: To many previously, and you know he'll acknowledge, you want

895
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 5: you gotta have, you want the right people.

896
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: In the locker room. You you you can't just have

897
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 4: the right people though. They got to be able to

898
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: play football, and so that's part of it.

899
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I think there was there was

900
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: a lot said today that quite frankly, we've heard before.

901
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: There was not a whole lot new.

902
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: I asked about money, asked for it about DJ Humphries

903
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 5: a little bit, and he just said it was a

904
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 5: sad injury and that he's that Humphries is in.

905
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: The facility every day rehabbing. Already. Wasn't a lot of clarification.

906
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: There, and I think we all know that there's an

907
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: out there's a chance that he might be released. We

908
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 5: will see what happens, uh, and even if even if

909
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: they keep him on the rehab schedule, at some point

910
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to figure out what their left tackle

911
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 5: situation is.

912
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: Going to be.

913
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 5: So there's so many things that still need to be determined,

914
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 5: and I don't think we're going to get a lot

915
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 5: of clear answers when we do have the chances to

916
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 5: meet with these two gentlemen, because that's just not their

917
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 5: way and that's fine, but it's going to make for

918
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 5: an interesting couple of months here.

919
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 6: I also know you'll find this to be a surprise, Paul.

920
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 7: No clear confirmation or denying of the chance of right tackle.

921
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 7: Paris Johnson Junior moving over to the left side in

922
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 7: Humphrey's absence, says he's going to miss a good chunk

923
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 7: of next season rehabbing that acl I'd asked Awesome for it,

924
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 7: because Johnson told us after the season ended he's going

925
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 7: to be spending this off season training on both sides

926
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 7: in case that's what's asked of him. So he's ready

927
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 7: to step up, and he does have experience on the

928
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 7: left side from college.

929
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 6: Awesome.

930
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 7: Ford said that he loves versatility in any position, but

931
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 7: especially on the offensive line. He says that the more

932
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 7: versatile you are, the more valuable you are. So while

933
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 7: he appreciates the versatility. He wasn't going to confirm whether

934
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 7: or not that who was actually going to happen, but

935
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 7: he does appreciate the versatility of Johnson working on both

936
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 7: sides this offseason. Definitely an option for the Cardinals when

937
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 7: addressing needing a starting left tackle.

938
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you do take Joe Alt out of

939
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: Notre Dame right long time starting left tackle, boom, maybe

940
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: that's just plug in play. So it depends on if

941
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: for whom you might end up with in the draft.

942
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. You know, why answer

943
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: a question that you know you don't have to and

944
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: or you don't really have a solution for As of yet,

945
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: what we do know is based on the numbers that

946
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: are out there and easily accessible. The fifth year option

947
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: on Zamon Collins will be thirteen point twenty five million, correct.

948
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: And something like that, something like that.

949
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: And then for dj Aumfreeze's do some fifteen million plus

950
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: next year. So those are obviously big money decisions that

951
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: are going to factor in and the business of football

952
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: this time of year. We get it. By the way,

953
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: Danny Missouri News, when you're out there, are you going

954
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: to keep an eye not only on the d lyman,

955
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: Darius Robinson, who's been mocked to the Cardinals at twenty

956
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: seven in too many mock drafts to even count.

957
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: Who.

958
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: By the way, Darius Robinson, the d Linman, was named

959
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 3: the overall practice player of the week of the Senior Bowl.

960
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: So the one time where it's good to be good

961
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: at practice, right But the other guy is the corner

962
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: Ennis Rakestraw out of Missou Because if you go to

963
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 3: the cornerback power pole right now, going into this combine

964
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 3: Terry and Arnold out Obama's number one, Quinn and Mitchell

965
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: out of Toledo's number two. By most accounts, Nate Wiggins

966
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: out of Clemson is either three or four. Then the

967
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: other guy is Ennis Rakestraw out of Missouri. So Danny

968
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 3: in three two one, give us a detailed scutter report

969
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 3: on your guy from your alma mater.

970
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 7: I don't know that I could go super detailed. I

971
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 7: don't want to do him or any of our listeners

972
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 7: in justice there, but I would absolutely welcome another Missouri Tiger.

973
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 6: It's been a minute since we've had one.

974
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: Speaking of Missouri, we saw we saw Marcus Golden in

975
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 4: the airport.

976
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: Nice going on.

977
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 6: A little vacation to see some family. It's so great to.

978
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: See him on the junkyard dog himself. You know, I

979
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: just hope you don't have to sit next to those

980
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: wide shoulders on a long floy Well.

981
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: It goes back to the whole thing where all the

982
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 5: stars are out Paul. You brought that up at the

983
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 5: top of the show. Why to make sure we brought that?

984
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: No, don't deny you guys are out there people watching.

985
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: Come on, we know that, we know that vividly. So

986
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 3: what else is on tap?

987
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: Now?

988
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: What happens when they actually do the drills and the

989
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: I mean the combine events?

990
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: Now are you.

991
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: Allowed to watch? Do you have any interest in watching?

992
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: How to tell everyone what the rest of your week

993
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: is going to be comprised of.

994
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 5: Well, to be honest, I do believe we have the

995
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 5: option to go watch workouts, but that won't happen.

996
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 4: There's too many other things going on.

997
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: Danny's actually the workhorse tomorrow as we record this. Now

998
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 5: she's got to sit down interviews that she got to

999
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 5: sit down interview with JG. She's got to sit down

1000
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 5: an interview with many Asin Fort and then Craig grielhu

1001
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 5: is working her like a dog on Covered team.

1002
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 7: We've got, no exaggeration, probably six or seven interviews with

1003
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 7: draft analysts on Wednesday, and then we were recording multiple

1004
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 7: Cover two podcasts episodes, so I will be talking for

1005
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 7: roughly nine hours.

1006
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 5: And then the big, the big, the big excitement was

1007
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 5: that JG decided that he wanted to knock out his

1008
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 5: one on one interview early, so it got moved to

1009
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 5: seven thirty AM, which, by the way, that's five thirty

1010
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 5: Arizona time, and we will not have already figured out

1011
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: like the time change.

1012
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 7: Good luck to Craig Rilu dealing with me on a

1013
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 7: long day.

1014
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: I'll just say that, be careful what you asked for

1015
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: access to JG. Yeah.

1016
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: Those those NFL head coaches, they'll get you up before

1017
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: the crack of dawn.

1018
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's how that works.

1019
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: That's okay, we're here to work.

1020
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 7: Say that's okay, because you're I'll be there now.

1021
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: You did sit down with Daniel Jeremiah earlier today.

1022
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 7: He was great things to say.

1023
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 3: Is there anybody in more demand than Daniel Jeremiah at

1024
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 3: the NFL combine?

1025
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 6: So that's a good that's a good don't think so.

1026
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 6: I don't think so. He had.

1027
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 7: He had someone with NFL New Work who has taken

1028
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 7: him from one table the other all on radio, keeping

1029
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 7: him on schedule.

1030
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 6: Fantastic things to say.

1031
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 7: I believe the video aspect of that ten minutes that

1032
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 7: Craig and I spoke with Daniel Jeremiah from NFL Network

1033
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 7: is going to be posted on the Cardinals official YouTube channel,

1034
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 7: and then we're going to also use that sound in

1035
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 7: a full cover two episode, so keep.

1036
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 6: An eye on there.

1037
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 7: He had really great things to say about what he

1038
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 7: saw from the Cardinals overall from last season, Kyler Murray's

1039
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 7: play and the confidence as franchise quarterback for Arizona. We

1040
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 7: talked about the needs and how it fits with the

1041
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 7: draft class, and we did talk about wide receivers, not

1042
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 7: necessarily specifics, more so what he looks at as a

1043
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 7: former scout and as somebody who watches a ton of

1044
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 7: film of not only things he looks for in wide

1045
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 7: receivers which would tell him that they can carry over

1046
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 7: the success from college to the pros, also what he

1047
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 7: doesn't want to see, the red flags he's looking for.

1048
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 7: Really interesting conversation with Daniel Jeremiah that I would recommend

1049
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 7: to into.

1050
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: By the way, here's a question I meant to ask earlier,

1051
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown. Did that come up with either MANIASA. Ford

1052
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 3: or Jonathan Gannon? What is the vibe on Hollywood Brown

1053
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: in his potential future with the Cardinals?

1054
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: Uh?

1055
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: Monty was not asked.

1056
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 5: A little surprisingly, JG was asked and he basically punted

1057
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 5: and saying, that's a MANI decision. And again it comes

1058
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 5: back to money and I this is just my opinion.

1059
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 5: I am guessing that we will have a much better

1060
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: idea of what could happen with Hollywood Brown after this week.

1061
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 5: I mean, technically, nobody's supposed to be talking to anybody,

1062
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 5: but amazingly, after the combine, there's usually a lot of

1063
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 5: free agentcy to be who get a better sense of

1064
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 5: what their market might be, and then you start having

1065
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 5: a little bit more movement in terms of how their

1066
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 5: own teams might deal with them, because though you know,

1067
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 5: you go back to their teams and saying, we really

1068
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 5: need X amount dollars because we're pretty sure we could

1069
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 5: find this on the open market. So we'll we'll find

1070
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 5: out what happens. And again that's another thing where it's

1071
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 5: like if he were to stick around, that might be

1072
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 5: another indicator of what might happen with some of those

1073
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 5: early picks.

1074
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 7: I'm not even sure that would really be an indicator

1075
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 7: to me. I think, even if Hollywood Brown doesn't get

1076
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 7: you a three four year deal with another team, if

1077
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 7: he wants to stay in Arizona, let's say Arizona gives

1078
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 7: him a one year proven deal to see if he

1079
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 7: can stay healthy, and that's something he wants to do

1080
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 7: and stay here, I would still be in favor of

1081
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 7: drafting a wide receiver early on, maybe with that fourth

1082
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 7: overall pick. Still, because Hollywood Brown has not been healthy.

1083
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 7: We saw good things out on Michael Wilson, not enough

1084
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 7: to label him as a number one ride receiver. I

1085
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 7: would like to see a true playmaker common, which is

1086
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 7: what a lot of these top receivers are being evaluated as.

1087
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 7: You can still utilize Hollywood Brown even if you draft

1088
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 7: a wide receiver early on and give Kyler Murray lots

1089
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 7: of options and make it difficult for defenses. To me,

1090
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 7: if you sign Hollywood Brown for let's say a one

1091
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 7: year deal, that would not make me feel any differently

1092
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 7: about drafting wide receiver early on.

1093
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: All right, what else? Craig Grielu said earlier on the

1094
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: Red Sea report on the radio side, it's like seventy

1095
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: degrees in Indianapolis.

1096
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 6: Really pretty nice weather out here.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was nuts.

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Speaker 5: We got here last night and we got outside the

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Speaker 5: airport and I'm like, wow, like this is climate change

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00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 5: scary quite frankly, but yeah, now it's supposed to drop

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00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 5: pretty considerably tomorrow. You're supposed to get some rain and

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00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 5: that the temperature is going to drop. And I think

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Speaker 5: on Thursday was supposed to drop to like forty.

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Speaker 4: Four with a low of twenty two. So Danny won't

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Speaker 4: have to deal with that, but I will.

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Speaker 2: So Darren, you've been going to these for one about

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00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: two decades, right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is number twenty two for me, Paul.

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00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: How much crazier is it just in terms of the

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00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: volume of people, just you know, the insanity downtown trying

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00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 3: to find a table at any restaurant downtown in the vicinity.

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Speaker 2: What's it like the before and after? Then? And now?

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00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 5: To be honest, the insanity it's of holding steady over

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00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: the last ten years. Maybe I don't think it's any crazier.

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00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 5: I actually think it used to be there. We we

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00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 5: kind of hit a peek and dial back a little bit.

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00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 5: I mean you can even tell, and talking to Craig

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00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 5: Grieolu about this earlier, like you can tell there's a

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00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 5: there's a lot of coaches that don't come now.

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Speaker 4: Not not everybody, not every team. I shouldn't say not

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00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 4: every team.

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00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 5: It doesn't I'm not sure if every if every team

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00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 5: is represented in the UH coach GM conversations, but certainly

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00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 5: not every team does both like the Cardinals do, which

1125
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 5: is nice, but that's different. It used to be almost

1126
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 5: automatic unless you're Bill Balichick. So I do think it's

1127
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 5: kind of morphed a little bit. Now it's only Tuesday.

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00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 5: The players really haven't hit it, and and the way

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00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 5: they do things now, the quarterbacks, the wide receivers, that's

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00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 5: all later in the week. They built this around the weekend.

1131
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 5: So maybe there'll be something later in the week where

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00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 5: you feel it a little bit. But it hasn't been.

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00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 5: It hasn't been completely crazy. But at this point, maybe

1134
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 5: I'm just completely used to everything, which is yeah, it's

1135
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 5: you are doing a lot of the same stuff year

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00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 5: after year.

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00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: Well, the growth is remarkable. I saw what twenty years

1138
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: ago there was one hour of TV coverage NFL network.

1139
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: This year as fifty plus hours. So but what I

1140
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: find interesting is some of the players, and look, they're

1141
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 3: the elites, the Marvin Harrison juniors who are shunning the combine.

1142
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: And you have to wonder to me, at least, I

1143
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: wonder the nil money that's available now in college, right,

1144
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 3: how many of these guys are gonna be doing anything

1145
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: for free? And if they're of the opinion, will wait

1146
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: a minute, I'm providing content and TV programming for the

1147
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: NFL of my own volition, you know. So I do

1148
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: wonder if that's a threat into the future, into the viability.

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00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 6: I mean maybe a little.

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00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 7: But even before NL there were big name players who

1151
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 7: wouldn't participate. They just want to wait for Pro Day

1152
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 7: when it's more of a controlled environment to really show

1153
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 7: their I.

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00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 5: Do personally, I think it's kind of like with some

1155
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 5: other things out there. It's like when everybody always they

1156
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 5: talk about, well, the players should you know, hold out

1157
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 5: to get rid of the franchise tag for instance. The

1158
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 5: thing is it only impacts a handful of guys. I

1159
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 5: think there's the reverse is true here. I think there's

1160
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 5: only a handful of guys that could really get away with, well,

1161
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 5: we're not doing anything I think most guys want to

1162
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 5: come in here improve themselves because they're trying to up

1163
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 5: their stock. And in the end, it's not ever going

1164
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 5: to be a ton of guys because there's not a

1165
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 5: ton of guys that have that kind of leverage.

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00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 4: For lack of a better.

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00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Term, all we need is one quarterback once again, one

1168
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: quarterback in summary to throw on air and put some

1169
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 3: air in his stock.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's Bo.

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Speaker 3: Nix or Michael Pennix or JJ McCarthy, doesn't matter. Just

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00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 3: just get one of those guys. So we'll see what

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00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 3: happens by the end of the week. By the way,

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00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: it's d linemen and linebackers on Thursday, it's DB's and

1175
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: tight ends on Friday, QB's wide receivers, running backs on Saturday,

1176
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 3: than O line on Sunday. So all right, does that

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Speaker 3: do it? From Indianapolis for this edition of Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 4: I do believe it. That does it. I think we're

1179
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 4: ready to go take a nap.

1180
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 3: Well that first, you gotta go find Craig GRIOLIU once

1181
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: again loose cannon out there on the road. So go

1182
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 3: hunt down Craig Griolo and then keep us posted accordingly

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Speaker 3: for Danny Surak and Darren Irvan on assignment Indianapolis by

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