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Speaker 1: Michael Arry Show is on the air.

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Speaker 2: It's Charlie from BlackBerry Smoke. I can feel a good

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Speaker 2: one coming on. It's the Michael Berry Show. Must Carry.

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Speaker 3: I didn't expect to talk bitcoin this.

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Speaker 2: Much, didn't.

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Speaker 4: But think about that too.

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Speaker 3: So you understand. If you are a bitcoin insider and

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Speaker 3: you're screaming and hollering, going, Michael, you got that wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yet you're not who this show is for. A sweet

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Speaker 3: lady named Bertha called up early in the show and asked,

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Speaker 3: what is bitcoin back by? If currency is backed by gold.

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Speaker 2: What is it back by?

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Speaker 3: And I made the point we're off the goal stander.

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Speaker 3: We've been off the goal center a long time. Our

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Speaker 3: currency is backed by nothing. We're just printing out paper

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Speaker 3: and the more we print, the more there is. And

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Speaker 3: it's backed by nothing. But I do the show on

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Speaker 3: almost every subject just so you know going forward, if

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Speaker 3: you think to yourself, he should know more about that

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Speaker 2: Many times I do.

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Speaker 3: I do the show for people who would not get

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Speaker 3: an answer to a question, but for on this show.

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Speaker 3: This is not a bitcoin convention. We're not going to

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Speaker 3: use acronyms and all those I get emails quite frequently

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Speaker 3: Let me call my guy that I've called and asked

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Speaker 3: the Archpublic dot com, who's my guest right now, and

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know about it. This is a sophisticated

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Speaker 3: my question was Wall Street Journal today had two different stories.

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Speaker 3: I want to see him. I want to see the

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Speaker 3: quote unquote constitutional crisis because if he appoints him, that

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Speaker 3: and I've always felt that long before this little tip.

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Speaker 5: The reason why he's wanting to do this is because

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Speaker 5: And there's a saying in the bitcoin community that is,

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Speaker 5: That you can participate straight away anybody, no matter how.

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Speaker 3: I'm up against a break, my man. I find what

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Speaker 3: you say fascinating. I hope others do as well. You

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Speaker 3: can find him at archpublic dot com or you can

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Speaker 3: always email me and I'll connect you to those folks. Hey,

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Speaker 3: thanks for making so much time with us to see

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Speaker 3: evening Bunny.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you real thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's called branding. It's the use of a song or

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Speaker 3: a sound at a certain time to create a mood.

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Speaker 3: There's something called a late motif in Broadway or West

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Speaker 3: End musicals, they would use that. If you've seen cats,

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Speaker 3: you know that there is the song for the jellical cats,

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Speaker 3: or there's there's memory that creates a certain mood, or

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Speaker 3: if you've seen what's the one with the half a

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Speaker 3: mask Phantom.

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Speaker 2: Of the Opera.

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Speaker 3: You know that when you're in the underground layer, there

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Speaker 3: is a certain sort of tense, unsettling undertone to the

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Speaker 3: music that is consistent that puts you back into that

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Speaker 3: environment in your mindset back into that environment or avida.

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Speaker 3: All of those Sir Timothy Rice and Sir Anthony not

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Speaker 3: Sir Anthony Hocketts, Andrew Lloyd Webber, they are brilliant at

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Speaker 3: the use of what's called the late mortif. But sonic

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Speaker 3: branding means that this song should cue you to the

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Speaker 3: end of our show for the week. Now, we do

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Speaker 3: do a Saturday pod cast, So if you're cleaning out

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Speaker 3: the garage one of my favorite things to do on

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Speaker 3: a Saturday. I know it's boring, lame, it's true, or

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Speaker 3: gardening or riding your bike or whatever else you're doing,

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Speaker 3: you could put your headsets in and go to our

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Speaker 3: podcast and listen to Saturday podcast, which we make fresh.

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Speaker 3: It's not a rebroadcast of the show, but I thought

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Speaker 3: we'd use this last segment. I was thinking to my

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Speaker 3: mom earlier, and my mom was not a big girl necessarily,

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Speaker 3: but you'll understand why.

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Speaker 2: In a moment.

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Speaker 3: A star of he Haw, which I grew up loving,

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Speaker 3: named Bertha Louise Habel has died, and she went by

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Speaker 3: Lulu on the show. She's a big girl, and she

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Speaker 3: called herself the fat girl because that's how people remembered

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Speaker 3: her on the show. And I got to thinking, you know,

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Speaker 3: she went from Bertha to Lulu. If you're going to

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Speaker 3: pick a stage name, you went from one fat girl

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Speaker 3: name to another big girl name. Bertha Louise Habel was

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Speaker 3: born on May sixth, nineteen four forty six. She was

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Speaker 3: raised in an orphanage. Nineteen sixty four, she made a

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Speaker 3: living as Lulu Roman, the world's biggest Go Go dancer.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to kind of half admire that

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Speaker 3: she was Lizo before Lizo was Lizo before there was

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Speaker 3: a whole body positive.

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Speaker 2: You're fat, and that's wonderful thing.

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Speaker 3: And buck Owens in all his genius and boy, he

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Speaker 3: was one hell of a businessman. He Conway twenty, some

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Speaker 3: of these guys were Charlie Pride, were really good businessmen.

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Speaker 3: Buck Owens discovered her and put her on he Haw,

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Speaker 3: and in nineteen seventy one, she was arrested on a

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Speaker 3: drug possession charge and sentenced to four years in jail,

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Speaker 3: and two years later she converted to Christ and was

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Speaker 3: able to win back her job on he Haw and

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Speaker 3: her singing career took off. That became her ministry. She

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Speaker 3: allowed herself to be used for good and she had

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Speaker 3: a very successful career in gospel music. It's a wonderful

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Speaker 3: story of redemption. She wasn't she wasn't formally trained, but

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Speaker 3: she would go on to release twelve albums. She would

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Speaker 3: record with Dolly Parton, George Jones, and others, and they

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Speaker 3: all wanted to record with her. She went into country

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Speaker 3: music sorry Country Gospel Hall of Fame in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: nine along with Andy Griffith. And so I'm going to

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Speaker 3: end the show with a little bit of with a

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Speaker 3: little bit of let's start with he Haul the All

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Speaker 3: jug Band. I'm an end the show on her positive note,

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Speaker 3: start with that.

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Speaker 8: Ramon music today.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: If I were to start the line, oh, we're not

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Speaker 3: gonna go around starting rumors, because really.

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Speaker 2: We're just not the gospel good for you. Ramon knows

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Speaker 2: it all right.

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Speaker 3: Let's check in on Cornfield County for a moment for

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Speaker 3: a happy memory. And if you're thinking to yourself. Boy,

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Speaker 3: my grandmother would love this. Take her to the podcast

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Speaker 3: and share it with her.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a sad Saturday or Sunday if you prefer.

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Speaker 5: And as we join the Kolhynes of Cornfield County, we

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Speaker 5: find them involved in a minor sort of hunger strike.

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Speaker 2: We listen as Lulu says, how long has it been

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Speaker 2: since we started our dock? It's almost been an hour. Now,

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Speaker 2: you better practice your setups. I'm practicing my setting right now.

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Speaker 2: I have felling over for all the most safety.

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Speaker 3: He's probably figured out by now that our show is

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Speaker 3: highly informed by the old Louisiana hay Ride and shows

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Speaker 3: like he Haul and Jerry Klower And so we're just

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Speaker 3: a little different than all the rest. Not to say

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Speaker 3: we're better, We're just different. The marketplace should have all

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Speaker 3: sorts of products. You know, you don't just want catch

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Speaker 3: up mayonnaise and mustard one day, you want a Sri Racha.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what we are in all that mix,

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Speaker 3: but that's we endeavor to be different by celebrating who

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Speaker 3: we are.

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Speaker 2: And what we bring to the table.

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Speaker 3: Lulu was a beautiful singer, and I'd like to share

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Speaker 3: a little of that and take it to the break.

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Speaker 3: But I got something to say in the meantime. Quot him,

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Speaker 3: I love that ham in organ. It's me in the

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Speaker 3: right spot.

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Speaker 6: It's just.

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Speaker 9: Take my head, leave me. Oh, let me say, I

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Speaker 9: am TI, I am weed.

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Speaker 3: So, my sweet mother, who passed on September nineteenth, loved

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Speaker 3: Lulu Roman. My mother always carried a little more weight

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Speaker 3: than she liked, probably like a lot of us. And

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Speaker 3: you didn't have ozempic in her time. You just have

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Speaker 3: to starve yourself. And there were times, you know, when

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Speaker 3: when she landed my dad where she'd gotten thinner than usual,

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Speaker 3: and you know, so she struggled with her weight like

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Speaker 3: a lot of us, dude, And she always loved Lulu Roman.

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Speaker 3: And I think part of that was she admired that

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Speaker 3: Lulu pushed through and said, Yeah, I'm fat. What are

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Speaker 3: you gonna do about it? I'm gonna sing, I'm gonna dance,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get rich, I'm gonna have fun.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So, what I would like to do at this point

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Speaker 3: is say that if you have lost someone that you loved,

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Speaker 3: as we close the show, I want you to think

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Speaker 3: good thoughts about that person and call someone that you

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Speaker 3: know in common with them and say, hey, you remember

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Speaker 3: all so and so. I just thought we'd talk about

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Speaker 3: their memory because it feels good to do. So take

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Speaker 3: it home.

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Speaker 2: Mean, oh my head, it's a fool.

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Speaker 9: Take my hand, pricious Lord, need me hold with the draw.

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Speaker 7: Appear and the night yours me, and the day is passed.

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Speaker 7: It's past and gold.

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Speaker 2: Red the river. Come home.

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Speaker 4: Mind, take my head mine, rucious Alona, marcious Lord, take

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Speaker 4: my hand, leave me everything you els has some for.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, and goodnight,