1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: We have Hall of Fame or Greg Maddox with us 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: right now. We haven't had you on. We've been looking 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: forward to talking to you. Well, happy to be here. Yeah, 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what you've heard about us, but we've 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: been looking forward to talking to you. We've talked to 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Glad and we've talked to Smoltz. How he smelted at 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: golf event. By the way, versus Smoltz when you played with. 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Him, it's just like he's pitching. It's like he's starting today. 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: He's kind of the same person. So yeah, you know, 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: you always have you know, you always on a little 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: different level on game day, and that's that's where he's. 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: At right now. Are you like that too. 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: I think I'm a little more mellow than Smoltzy, you know. 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: I think I realize I'm here to have fun and 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: enjoy the guys in the golf trip and. 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: Smoltzy's trying to win. 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of a different you know, it's a different 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 2: beast for the both of us. And I think I'm 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: having more fun than him, that's for sure. 20 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you think. 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, So we had Pavelski on and he played with 22 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: Smolts yesterday. Uh huh, And I said, what's Smoltz trash 23 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: talk like? So you ever heard Smoltz trash talk? 24 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: Uh, I've heard him talk a little trash for over 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: the years. Uh you know it's pretty clean. You know, 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: he's he keeps it clean, and uh uh he's fun 27 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: to play with. 28 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 5: Obviously, were like, what was he like on star bas 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 5: what was what was Smoltzy like on stardas You just 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 5: you mentioned that he was kind of locked in? What 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 5: did that look like? 32 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: Well, you know, you're just a little bit more serious, 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, with your attitude and you look the way 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: you walk around the clubhouse and all that as opposed 35 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: to the four days off and and uh you can 36 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: kind of see it on just about every starting pitcher. 37 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: Uh there's a couple that, you know, you don't notice 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: much of a difference, but uh, you know there in 39 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Atlanta when it was Moltzi's turn to pitch, he was 40 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: definitely moving a little bit quicker and uh uh not 41 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: quite as talkative as. 42 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: He normally is. And what about you. 43 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: I like to just kind of chill out and get 44 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: in a card game and and uh, you know, get 45 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: the lineup card, look at the lineup card and kind 46 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: of go over my notes and uh, you know, play 47 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: a game of Hearts or pluck with the boys. 48 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: Did you walk around in your white underwear? You didn't? 49 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: You know you're in a tidy whitey guy. You were? Uh, 50 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: you were the long underwear, the old man white you know. 51 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: Uh I had the. 52 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Half size on maybe. Uh yeah, I guess Hell, the 53 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: whole team did I know? 54 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: That's true? That's true. That's what we. 55 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: Said, Chipper, Because did Schipper wear like nine pairs of 56 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: sliding shorts? 57 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? 58 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: Chip, Yeah, Chipper was Yeah, he goes, I don't want 59 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: to slide and get scabbed up for two months, so 60 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: he uh yeah, he was very protected in case he 61 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: had to slide. 62 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Hey, I've been watching Oh go ahead, crats. 63 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 5: You said you said you would. You would get the 64 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: lineup card and you'd take a look at that. It's 65 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: way more extensive. 66 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: Now. 67 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 5: Would you have done the more extensive stuff now or 68 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 5: would that have gotten in the way of what you were? 69 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 5: What you know, what made you better? 70 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: Uh? 71 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I I did most of my own scouting. 72 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: I think the stuff now today is great. I think 73 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: I would pull bits and pieces up. But for sure, 74 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, I'd love to know if aj hits, you 75 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: know one twenty on two to one count changeups as 76 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: opposed to you know for twenty You know you get 77 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: you get stuff like that. 78 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: It's pretty valuable. 79 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: So uh, I think you would pull out the stuff 80 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: that you think you can actually execute and uh use it. 81 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: Your advantage wouldn't have helped them. Crouds wouldn't help them 82 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: against me at nine for seventeen. 83 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: That's sorry about nine seventeen. That's why for this I 84 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: I was like, but no walks. You didn't walk at 85 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: some point, I figured you would intentionally walked me. Well, 86 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: you were hitting eight. 87 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: There it is. 88 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: There, it is, Yeah, but the picture was behind me 89 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: at some point. That's true. But then again, you probably 90 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: couldn't have walked because they were throwing it up. 91 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: Here and then I have to face the lead off hitter, 92 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: know you. 93 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: That's why I said he couldn't That's why he didn't 94 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: want me, because he couldn't have physically thrown it far 95 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: enough outside for me to swing. 96 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: That's good. 97 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: Are you watching the Braves or any other Do you 98 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: watch a lot of ball? 99 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: I watched a little bit of the Rangers. You know, 100 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: my brother's over there in Texas, and uh, what do 101 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: I got. 102 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Wait, he's doing this. 103 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: For a reason out here, for to check your heart 104 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: rebate and I'm getting the warm fuzzy Yeah, your brother 105 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: and everything he comes to money. 106 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he asks a lot of the guys about it. 107 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we uh, we have fun with that at Thanksgiving holidays. 108 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: Well we'll do the like the run, you know, he's 109 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: got that run, and we'll do the run and we 110 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: try to give him running practice I think one holiday 111 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: and just so he wouldn't embarrass a family as much. 112 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, he's good and uh, he's good at 113 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: what he does. And you know, I know he's uh 114 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: taught me an awful lot about baseball growing up, being 115 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: the older brother. And uh, it's always nice to have 116 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: that resource, you know, in your back pocket when you 117 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: need a little help. Sometimes your brother's a little bit 118 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: better than the coaches you got. 119 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: So how often do you have conversations about work? Obviously 120 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: in the thing, but yeah, what's going on? What's wrong 121 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: right now? 122 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: You know? 123 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: We you know, we used to talk a lot when 124 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: we were playing together. You know, that was before all 125 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: the scouting. And you know, if if his team played, 126 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: say the Brewers, and our team was playing the Cubs. 127 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: We'd cross and I'd give him the Cub Report and 128 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: he'd give me the Brewer Report, and we shared a 129 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: lot of information and I think we helped on one 130 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: another out tremendously during our careers. 131 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: When you look at baseball now, when you see guys 132 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: like Schoob go through the Mattocks, is it cool that 133 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: there's something called the Matti Yeah, that's kind of cool. Cool. 134 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: I mean you like, you know, you're out of the 135 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: game for twenty years now, and it gets brought up 136 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: because somebody did something good. 137 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. 138 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: And you know, I like watching that guy pitch, like 139 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: I can just prep sure that guy actually pitches. 140 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: He has fun too, Yeah, he talks a little trash, Yeah, yeah, 141 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 4: I see that. 142 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: Okay, KP, this is your first arena club experience. We're 143 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: going to open this lab pack together. So first off, 144 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: if we're gonna buy one of those twenty five dollars 145 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: slab packs and we get to see what is in 146 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: the pack. There, it is the Grail, which is the 147 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: best card in the pack and worth the most. There 148 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: are some other cards that we're chasing, and you can 149 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: see the entire lineup, so that you know what you're 150 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: in the running for. There's the Yamamoto signed card. Now 151 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: let's open up our pack and see how we do. 152 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: We have ourselves a really cool graphic and then a 153 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: show Heyo Tani fifty to fifty card from last year. 154 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Should we sell it 155 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: right back to them for sixteen or should. 156 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: We keep it? You should give it to me, I'll keep. 157 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Good answer, Fine, I will give it to you. Since 158 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays didn't getto Tani, you can get this 159 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty card instead and use the code foul 160 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: foul to get yourself twenty percent off your first slab 161 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: pack or card purchase. Yes, you get to keep that 162 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: card if you want it. They send it to you 163 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: foul at Arena club dot com slash foul. 164 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to know this, is it true? Well? 165 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: I saw all the documentaris Eddie Peretz. 166 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: The reason you had to call the pitches for Eddie 167 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: perets because he didn't remember what fingers he put down. 168 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: So that's why I know, because Eddie's Eddie. But this 169 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: is how I could hit youse. Every time he went 170 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: like this, he threw me a change up. So I 171 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: was like, oh, change ups. 172 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: Coming, probably a fastball. 173 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: He probably. 174 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: You probably just thought it was a gan. But how 175 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: did you get the ball to move so much? 176 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: Because you were the originator really of the front of 177 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: the front hip sinker. 178 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very fortunate in high school. I had 179 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: a pitching coach that taught me that movement was more 180 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: important than velocity, and he kind of changed my arm 181 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: mangaled when I was, you know, fifteen, sixteen years old 182 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: to create movement, and that was how I learned. I 183 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: learned movement was more important than velocity. I learned location 184 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: was more important than velocity. And I learned changing speeds 185 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: it was more important than velocity. So you know, for me, 186 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: it was obviously you want to throw hard, harder the better, 187 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: but you know there's things more important than that in 188 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: order to get hitters out. And uh, that's the way 189 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: I was raised and brought up. 190 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: Now, some guys won't get noticed if I understand throw 191 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: hard enough. They feel that kids kids will be like, 192 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to get a look because 193 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: there's just a barometer where they're like, we don't think 194 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: he's going to be able to throw hard enough. Even 195 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: though you can do a lot of other things. 196 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: I understand. I understand that part of it. But uh, 197 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, in the day I threw hard. I mean 198 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: I I came up, I threw hard. I threw hard 199 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: enough to get drafted, and uh you know I was. 200 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: I was taught your fastball is going to get you drafted, 201 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: and if you learn how to pitch, that's how you 202 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: make your money. 203 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 4: You could throw ninety five though, right, No, you don't 204 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: think how about with today's radar guns, today's radar guns, 205 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: I might be a tick or two higher, obviously, but uh. 206 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: You know, I think you know, when I was throwing hard, 207 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: I was you know, ninety one to ninety three when 208 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: I was thrown hard, and uh yeah, but when like this, yeah, 209 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: you get older, you start losing stuff, and then. 210 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: The strike zone was we a bit wlighter? 211 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: Well I would like to got the high strike they're 212 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: getting today, but that would have been nice. You know, 213 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: we might have got you know, a couple of inches 214 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: off the plate, and you know, I'd like to have 215 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: the foot and a half up too, But you know, 216 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: it is what it is. You always adapt to whatever 217 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: the strikes one is that day, you know how it is. 218 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: I mean you. I mean it changes day. 219 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 5: To day, different era, different errors. Always hate on other eras, 220 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 5: whether it's the older guys or the newer guys. Some 221 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: people were like, well, Crang Maddox, he wouldn't have survived 222 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 5: with the ABS system that's coming in next year. How 223 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 5: do you think you would have been able to had 224 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 5: success with that or even like you just mentioned, with 225 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 5: the with the zone that's consistent that's called right now. 226 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'd like to think I could 227 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: have adapted to it. I mean, I think if you 228 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: look at every generation, all the top players were top 229 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: players for a reason. They during their time, they were 230 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: able to have a little more success. And uh, you know, 231 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: it's just like the pitchers today. I mean, they could 232 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: have pitched in our air and then and you know, 233 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: twenty years from now, they'll probably saying the same thing 234 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: about them. 235 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: You would have been fine. 236 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: He would have been fine because he just would have 237 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: brought the ball back a little bit more. I mean, 238 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 4: he started the sinker off the plate like this bar 239 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: and it would just and Charlie O'Brien's back there like this, 240 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: and he just never moves his globe. 241 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: Oh, ball's alf far off this plate. Stright the old time. 242 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, hey, the other pitcher got it too. That's 243 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: one of the things. You know, I like everyone says Atlanta. 244 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: You know, we got more pitches than anybody. And you know, 245 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: when you sit there and you watch our games, if 246 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: we're getting a little bit off the plate, well the 247 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: other guy was getting it too. 248 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: We just threw more there. 249 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: So I think, you know, we were able to adapt 250 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: to the strike zone a little bit better than most 251 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: of the guys we faced. Uh, you know, it wasn't 252 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: like the other guy didn't get it too. 253 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: That's true. Uh. 254 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: We have spoken to hundreds and hundreds of current and 255 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: former players on this show, and I think you still 256 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: stand tall as the best prankster you know baseball history. 257 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure where I got that rep at. Really, 258 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: you've heard it many times. 259 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you just you must have had at least 260 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: you just had a few good ones that that were like, 261 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: there's all timers and people just kept talking about it. 262 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: I think over the years, guys like do embellish to 263 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: be honest with you, you know how that goes. You know, 264 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: the older I get, the funnier it was or whatever. 265 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, you you. 266 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: Are a jokester though, Like, I know you're playing it 267 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: down right now, but you are because you put the 268 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: glasses on. You know, if someone saw you walking down 269 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: the street, have no idea that you were a Hall 270 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 4: of Fame picture with three hundred and fifty wins. Yeah, 271 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: but you're a joke You're a jokester. But uh, I 272 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: like to have fun the jokester too, So you must 273 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: run in the fans. 274 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: He's sick. 275 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: He's the sick one of the fans, the sick one one. 276 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean, everything I learned, he taught me right, and 277 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: you still got to going in the game today. 278 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: That's true, all. 279 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 4: Right, So we got to ask Tony Gwynn, toughest guy 280 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: for you to get out. Four point fifteen, one hundred 281 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: and seven plate appearances, zero strikeouts. 282 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I struck him out once and the Yump didn't 283 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: call it. I thought I got him, and I think 284 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: the yump kind of didn't give it to me. But uh, 285 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: the best pure hitter obviously. I mean, if if a 286 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: single is going to beat you, that's the guy you 287 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: didn't want to. But I think obviously Barry was hands 288 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: down the best. You know during the time. You know, 289 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: Chef had Barry, okay, because I walked him all the time. 290 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I mean you pretty much had to 291 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: pitch to Tony because he hit second. And you know, 292 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: Tony Gwinn was cool because he's a guy that you 293 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: know how you beat lineups and not hitters. That was 294 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: like the first time that you have to learn that 295 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: when you face the padres, because uh you know, you 296 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: got to find your twenty seven outs and you know 297 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: they're not going to be with Tony, so you know, 298 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: you better make sure you get the guys out in 299 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: front of him and after him, and then you got 300 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: a pretty good chance to win. 301 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: Is the story about, was it bag? Well? 302 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: That that story is? That story is correct about you 303 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: gave up a homer to get him later. 304 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: It's not that you're trying to give up a homer. 305 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: You're trying to throw a pitch that he might be 306 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: looking forward to try to keep him there. You know, 307 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: I always thought hitters remember success, you know, and if 308 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: they have success off you, that's what they're gonna remember, 309 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: and that's probably where their eyes are going to be 310 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: looking during the game. 311 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: That's smart because when I first came up, I had 312 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: a backup catcher was a guy named Tom Prince, and 313 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: he used to tell me, hey, every once in a while, 314 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: if there's two outs, nobody on, you have a really 315 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: good hitter. You're right to the stuff to get him out. 316 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: You kind of give him a little something m early series, 317 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: early in a game, like you said, to get them excited, like, oh, 318 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: they are gonna throw me a sinker in where I 319 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: crush it. 320 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: Every once in a while. 321 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, do with two outs and nobody on, 322 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: you have a lead, just so when you need to 323 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: go the slider, you haven't used it yet. 324 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: And then when I heard that story, I was like, oh, 325 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: that's where that came from. 326 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, uh, you remember success. I mean 327 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: I remember my first home run that was thirty years ago. 328 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: I mean it was a hitter middle right. You know, 329 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: you don't forget stuff like that. You know, it's like 330 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: making a hole in one. 331 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: Greg, you were and I'll say this with all due respect, 332 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 5: you were only an All Star eight times. I had 333 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 5: no idea. 334 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: That is a. 335 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 5: Crazy number to me. How during those times do you 336 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: feel like you were slighted a couple of times? I 337 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 5: mean we're talking. This is a four time cy Young 338 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: Award winner and only an eight time All Star. 339 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: Uh not really, I mean, uh, pictures had to earn it. 340 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: We weren't voted in by the fans. We got picked 341 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, the best you know, six or 342 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: seven starting pitchers that had the first half were the 343 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: ones going in. Uh you know, I think, uh, you know, 344 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: I don't think I ever really felt slighted, you know, 345 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: by by not being selected. 346 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: Uh. You know, all Star games are fun. They're exciting 347 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: to go to. 348 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: But it's also kind of cool to have the three 349 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: days off as well, and and uh, you know, it 350 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: is what it is. 351 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't feel slight at all. Yeah, you're in 352 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. You did, okay, Yeah, yeah, we're 353 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: all spallid Hall of Famer. Three hundred and fifty five 354 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: wins were. 355 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: To pitch your All Stars back then because they pitched. Yeah, 356 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: I know now they don't pitch most of them. 357 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: Another one. Here's another one, here's another one. Yeah. 358 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: Well, Greg, thank you so much for time, Thank you, 359 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: good luck out there. I thank you, appreciate it.