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Speaker 3: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. I'm Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and it is time now put together

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Speaker 3: our DFS lineup. We got two games to pick from.

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Speaker 3: It gets a little tougher here, It gets real tough.

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Speaker 3: The road is narrow.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what the prices are on some of these

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Speaker 1: top dudes, you know, like the Kelsey's And yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, looking at the defenses, the Eagles thirty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: I'm expecting a high scoring game in Kansas City, especially

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Speaker 1: in the second half and the fourth quarter. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I think I figured to go to the NFC. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of these options are wonderful.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are thirty one hundred, the Bills are twenty

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Speaker 3: nine hundred, and the Commanders are twenty seven hundred. If

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Speaker 3: I if I had to play down a little bit,

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Speaker 3: the Bills are going to get sacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Tuning to left tackle has not worked out well.

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Speaker 1: He's a guard he's really a guard, and they got

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Speaker 1: weaker at two spots. Bills have a good pass rush,

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Speaker 1: it's not a dominant one. Mahomes is good at not

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Speaker 1: taking sacks and getting the ball out, but it will

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Speaker 1: also throw you one the other team too. I bet

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Speaker 1: he has more interceptions than Allen does. Yeah, everybody's Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Allen doesn't take any sacks.

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Speaker 3: I mean he doesn't. I wouldn't take the Chiefs because

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Speaker 3: they don't. They don't sack the well, he doesn't take

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Speaker 3: sacks and turn them all over.

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Speaker 1: Right, so that leaves you three teams. Really, I'm cool

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Speaker 1: with the Bills.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to play the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to spend a lot of money on defenses.

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Speaker 1: And that's the other right, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think you play Bills. Yeah, all right? A quarterback?

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Speaker 3: You quarterback? Or tight end?

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Speaker 1: Tight end? All right? Tight end? Kelsey's gonna be price.

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Speaker 3: Kelsey's six thousand, Okay, Goddard forty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty big gap.

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Speaker 3: Zach Ertz forty three hundred, Dalton Kaid thirty six hundred.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo or the Chiefs are twenty ninth against opposing tight ends.

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Speaker 3: No A Gray, No A. Great cost Dawson knox Is

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Speaker 3: twenty six hundred, Calcaterra twenty five hundred. I don't think

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Speaker 3: we need to go no further down than that.

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Speaker 1: If we're really gonna cheap out on it, I think

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Speaker 1: Noah Gray is going to play a lot. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: it's Bills are a nickel defense. We're gonna come out

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Speaker 1: with a lot of tight ends. Are you gonna stay

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Speaker 1: in nickel or you're gonna go bring a big person in.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make you decide and either play left handed

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Speaker 3: But I think Kelsey goes Here's yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 3: Noah Gray had that stretcher. He was being pretty.

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Speaker 1: It's been but desert lately.

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Speaker 3: The last month has not been kind no Gray. It's

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Speaker 3: one catching one game, one catching three straight games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we eighteen the game didn't count.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had he had a stretcher. We had four

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Speaker 3: straight games with at least four catches. That's not the case.

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Speaker 1: No, they're not saving Kelsey anymore. No, clearly, so need

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Speaker 1: to catch a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: So do you up for Kelsey in this situation?

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Speaker 1: So Goddard's off the injury list, by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they passed the ball very well period

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Speaker 3: Look I look at Ertz. He had five targets the

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Speaker 3: last game he caught a touchdown. Now it was five

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Speaker 3: catches for twenty eight yards. But again they look his

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Speaker 3: way in the end in the red zone. Last five games,

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Speaker 3: he has four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: You look at that Eagles defense. The spot teams are

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Speaker 1: going to pick on is linebacker not named Dean, you

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Speaker 1: idea what the Eagles are against tight ends, but I can.

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Speaker 3: Tell you what Ertz did against them in two games. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so the first time around in Philadelphia, know they lost

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Speaker 3: this game, but it was in Philly. Six catches on

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Speaker 3: seven targets, forty seven yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: That'd be well worth our money.

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Speaker 3: The second time around, he had one catch for twelve

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Speaker 3: yards on two targets. So now they won that game.

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Speaker 3: Thirty six thirty three is more of a shootout. I

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Speaker 3: don't think this is going to be a shootout.

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Speaker 1: There's a chance they're getting beat bad though, and he

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Speaker 1: if anyone's really trailing thrown against prevents, I think it's Washington.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the pivot if he don't want to

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Speaker 3: spend up it's forty three hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: They're the only two options I'd even consider, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, I think Kelsey goes insane and but

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Speaker 1: Ertz is real, ERTs in and we can then we go.

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Speaker 3: ERTs and if we have sud In mind, right, we

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Speaker 3: get seventeen hundred dollars that we don't want to spend.

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Speaker 3: We can because this build is going.

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Speaker 1: To be I mean, this quarterback situation, don't I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure how I would rank their who's most expensive? On down?

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Speaker 1: I might just take the fourth one.

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Speaker 3: Allen is seventy five hundred, okay, Jade and Daniels seven thousand,

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Speaker 3: Hertz is sixty five hundred, and Mahomes is six thousand.

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Speaker 1: I think I just take the cheapest.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to go Mahomes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, I mean those other three are like the

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Speaker 1: best three fantasy quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: On the play, Yeah, yeah, I mean right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: for Patrick Mahomes be fourth. That's kin right right right, and.

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Speaker 1: Those guys run and score touchdowns more.

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Speaker 3: Than he's not, Like he's not going to score points.

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Speaker 1: So no, and he runs a lot in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah at running back Saquon Barkley's eighty six hundred. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Cook is sixty nine hundred. So there has to be

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Speaker 3: a massive drop seventeen hundred dollars difference right there, right there. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Brian Robinson is fifty six hundred, Kareem Hunt fifty four hundred,

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Speaker 3: Austin Ekeler fifty three hundred, Isaiah Pacheco fifty two hundred,

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Speaker 3: Kenneth Game weell forty six hundred, And I don't know

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Speaker 3: if we need to go much farther down.

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Speaker 1: I don't like any of them. I mean, I love Barkley,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, like, there's not.

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Speaker 3: That ekolar is a paydown makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Ekilar is my favorite because they could be losing and

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Speaker 1: he could be third down back out there a lot.

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Speaker 3: In the second but Philadelphia's second against running backs.

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Speaker 1: That's also with Dean in the lineup for most of

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Speaker 3: Now he played somewhere, we have to go cheap. He

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Speaker 3: had seventeen point six points at Philadelphia. He didn't play

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Speaker 3: in the second game, but he's seventeen point They were

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Speaker 1: I think he got the line.

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Speaker 3: You have to put him in the lineup right, right, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no one else you're super excited about,

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Speaker 1: right the Chiefs, Gass or No, how about bills not

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Speaker 3: But Johnson is forty four hundred and Ray Davis is

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Speaker 3: forty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Is he questionable? No? Okay, I just want.

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Speaker 3: To look here when they because these two teams have

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Speaker 3: scored two touchdowns. So he scores a ton hit nineteen

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because I don't know that

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Speaker 1: the receivers are going to be super obviously more to

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Speaker 1: pick from. Yeah, if you could only have Barkley or Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: who would you rather have? Barkley? Me too, I hate

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Speaker 1: these running backs pick from right.

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Speaker 3: Now, that's eighty six hundred.

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Speaker 1: Though, we're gonna have to that's pretty cheap. He's cheap.

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Speaker 3: But right now we can average sixty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: That's without Kelsey in the lineup.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the receivers first and see that might

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Speaker 3: that might help us make our choice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the two AFC teams use so many receivers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. AJ Brown is sixty eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: I think McLaurin should be number one.

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Speaker 3: McLaurin is sixty seven hundred. Devonte Smith is fifty eight hundred.

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Speaker 3: Khalio Shakir fifty seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: I don't dislike that.

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Speaker 3: Xavier, you're worthy fifty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of targets lately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're trying.

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Speaker 1: To they're not deep surprising. Yeah, they're after d stuff

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Speaker 1: generate some offense with him. They don't throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of these teams throwsaball deep anymore.

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Speaker 3: Hopkins is forty seven hundred, Diana Brown forty four hundred.

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Speaker 3: He's the two in Washington, Hollywood Brown forty two hundred.

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Speaker 3: He got a shut out for US last week. Amari

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Speaker 3: Cooper forty one hundred, as already plays. Zakias is thirty

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Speaker 3: to play though. Keon Coleman thirty seven hundred, Curtis Samuel

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Speaker 1: You have to get a receiver or two in that neighbor.

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Speaker 3: Mac collins Is thirty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Is there as Zakias or a Chief or a Bill.

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Speaker 1: I know it's you have to they have to catch touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Saquon Barkley pay up makes sense because

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Speaker 3: of these prices. I know, I know, but you have

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Speaker 1: It's a tough week.

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Speaker 3: I kind of like Shakir, Yes of the guys you

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Speaker 3: know are going to score points first time round against

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. He got twelve targets at eight catches for

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Speaker 1: Okay, worth it, I guess yeah.

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Speaker 3: For you're talking about fifty seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think he's like Ecklar, like you just put

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Speaker 1: him in. Yeah, we're gonna have to take a shot

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Speaker 3: Worthy last week ended up with five catches for forty

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Speaker 3: eight the first time around against Buffalo, four catches for

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Speaker 3: for seven yards. And they do manufacturer touch and manufacturer

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Speaker 3: touches for him, now, did they?

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Speaker 1: But he's a little pricier than his other jabbronis too.

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Speaker 3: Now he's fifty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Okay, man, I like him better than all the other bills,

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Speaker 1: all the chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Now, we can average sixty seven to sixty six for

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Speaker 3: our final three spots without Barkley. That's without Barkley. If

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Speaker 3: we put bart You want to put Barkley in there

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Speaker 3: now and see we can just see it.

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Speaker 1: At numbers out to be I mean that takes McLaurin

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Speaker 3: Right, So Barkley, then we can average fifty eight to fifty. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we can make that work. Davonte Smith is fifty eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we can make that work. Then what if we

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Speaker 1: put McLaurin in and then just take.

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Speaker 3: Claurin's sixty seven hundred. That's going to be one thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars basically over budget.

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Speaker 1: I'd much rather McLaurin than Smith.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty I think that's the best one I've heard yet.

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Speaker 3: Oh we got We've got fifty six hundred months to

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Speaker 3: we'll get us DeAndre Hopkins that doesn't really do it

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Speaker 1: I don't love it, but there's not much pick from us.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: and Matt Miller on ESPN has released his list of

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Speaker 3: the top fifty prospects going into the East West Shrine

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Speaker 3: Game and the Senior Bowl, which the East West Shrine

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Speaker 3: Game practices start this weekend, and then of course next

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Speaker 3: week is the Senior Bowl. So lots of stuff starting

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Speaker 3: to happen here. So looking here at his top fifty,

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Speaker 3: he's got Abdul Carter from Penn State number one overall.

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Speaker 1: And see that more and more. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. If there's an elite prospect in

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Speaker 3: Number two is Travis Hunter. Okay, okay, I understand that.

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Speaker 3: Three is Will Johnson, the cornerback out of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Understandable.

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Speaker 3: Four is Mason Graham, the defensive tackle out of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I don't love the top of this draft compared to

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Speaker 3: Five is Jaylen Walker, edge rusher out of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: It's maybe the highest I've seen him. Still no quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: right right. I don't think he positionally valued them.

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Speaker 3: Six is Ashton Genty, running back out of Boise State.

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Speaker 1: Definitely didn't right.

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Speaker 3: Seven Will Campbell, the offensive lineman out of LSU.

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Speaker 1: But that's crazy, you know, Like he's a great prospect,

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Speaker 1: great tape, but he's six ' four and he might

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be that.

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Speaker 3: of Texas.

436
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: Very similar, he's six to four. Yeah, yeah, he's definitely shorter. Yeah.

437
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 3: Nine is Tyler Warren, tight end at of Penn State.

438
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: He keeps creeping up now. When we drafted him earlier

439
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: in the week, Yeah, I think it was money one.

440
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 3: At twenty one, people went crazy. Sure, there have been

441
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 3: no receivers taken thus far. Right in these rankings.

442
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: He's the best pass catcher in the draft.

443
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: Again, look at him as a pass catcher, because that's

444
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 3: how Penn State viewed him this year. Had one hundred

445
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: and four catches. One hundred and four catches for a

446
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: tight end. I don't care if it's a wide receiver

447
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: and you had one hundred and four catches. At the

448
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: college level, when everybody knows you're getting the football, you're

449
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: a pass catcher.

450
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: He had a bunch of carries, push push stuff. Yeah,

451
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: I mean he does wept them for you. Yeah.

452
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: Ten is Luther Burden, the wide receiver at a Missouri.

453
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: Wow, that's his top receiver.

454
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 3: Eleven is Tetor B. McMillan, the wide receiver out of Arizona.

455
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: Widely regarded as the best receiver.

456
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: So again, he had Tyler Warren rank just ahead of

457
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: those guys. If he were a six six, two hundred

458
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: and twenty pound wide receiver and had a wr next

459
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: to his name, people.

460
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: Thought, Oh, he's yeah, yeah, right, right, right right.

461
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: But they see the tea and we got pep right right.

462
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: Oh catches the ball.

463
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: Catches the ball, changes the game. Great smiths maatches.

464
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: Twelve cam Ward the quarterback out of Miami.

465
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: I understand that he's got a lot of ability. Sounds

466
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: like he's a really competitive guy, good leader, all that

467
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: stuff too. But you have them and those are prerequisites. Yeah.

468
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: Still it's to work on touching, accuracy and things like that,

469
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: but there's a lot to work with there.

470
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: Thirteen is Malachi Starks, safety out of Georgia.

471
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: I don't see many negatives with that guy.

472
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 3: Fourteen Josh Simmons, offensive tackle out of Ohio State.

473
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: It won't shock me.

474
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: We talked about it earlier in the week.

475
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: YEA, yeah, it won't shock me one bit if he's

476
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: the first offensive lineman off the board.

477
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: Fifteen Mikel Williams he d rusher out of Georgia.

478
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: Okay.

479
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 3: Sixteen John a Barn cornerback out of Texas.

480
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: He's someone we're going to talk a lot about it

481
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: twenty one.

482
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: I like him a lot.

483
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's similar to a Branch, Yeah, but

484
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: with more outside corner capability. I'm saying he's better than Branch,

485
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: but I think he can do more in terms of

486
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: just lining up outside the numbers. He's a glue guy,

487
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: and he's not pretty useful.

488
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: He's not one of these little slots. He's not one

489
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: of these guys that are well he's five ten and

490
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty pounds. No, he's five eleven, two

491
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 3: hundred pounds.

492
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean he can line up with Andrews and Likely

493
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: and those Hyba dudes too, Gaseki and you know.

494
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

495
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

496
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: Seventeen Matthew Golden, wide receiver out of Texas.

497
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: He's another one I think we're going to talk a

498
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: lot about at twenty one.

499
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: Eighteen Josh Connor Lee offensive tackle out of Oregon.

500
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: Really really good athlete, kind of like the Ohio State

501
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: dude Simmons. He's a pure tackle with great feet that's

502
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: gonna look great the combine could he go ahead of

503
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Johnson and Banks the tackle needy team, Yeah, that could be.

504
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: That could be the we.

505
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 3: Talked about when we were talking about the fifty year

506
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: options stuff, if you could, if you take a guard

507
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 3: or a center, an interior offensive lineman, Yeah, in the

508
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 3: first round of the draft. After three years, you're gonna

509
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: have to pay him like he's an offensive tackle.

510
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, is Linderbaum worth tackle money? Yeah, that's

511
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: a question. The Ravens are fighting right now.

512
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: Nineteen Colston Loveland tight end, Michigan. Three Michigan players in

513
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: the top nineteen. The hell did they stink this year?

514
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: Right? Right? I think they're gonna plenty of dudes drafted

515
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: to Grant's not far behind him, yeah.

516
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 3: Right twenty armand Membu the offensive lineman at a Missouri.

517
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 3: Now he is a guard, he's he's sixty three, yeah,

518
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: and he's probably closer to six two.

519
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: And I know some people is he going to Senior Bowl?

520
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: I think so. I think he's gonna play.

521
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: His measurements there. His measurements down there are going to

522
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 3: be crucial if he comes in again they list him

523
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: at six three.

524
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: If he's.

525
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: Six you know, one in a quarter or aything like that. Yeah,

526
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna be huge, but.

527
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: His ability to play center could be useful for him too.

528
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: Derek Harmon, the defensive tackle out of Oregon twenty one.

529
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: I mixed feelings about him, but you know, I see

530
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: the allure.

531
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 3: Twenty two is Shador Sanders, the quarterback out of Colorado.

532
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: It's probably what he is, is the prospect. Yeah, he's

533
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: gonna go way higher than that. We know that.

534
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 3: Absolutely, which means he's at twenty two. The Steelers are

535
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: picking at twenty one, and he'll be all Therefore, one

536
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: of those other guys is getting pushed down. Twenty three

537
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: James Pierce, the edge rusher out of Tennessee.

538
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: Get it. A lot of good edge rushers in this class.

539
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: Twenty four Carson Schwesssinger linebacker out of UCLA.

540
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm kind of late to the party on him. Linebackers

541
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: haven't paid a ton of attention to but everyone seems

542
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: to think he's pretty much a surefire first round.

543
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah walk on all that good? Yeah, yeah, turned into

544
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: something twenty five in Mecca IGBUCA wide receiver.

545
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: Problem with him at twenty one.

546
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's other guys that I would rather have.

547
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if could be in my top twenty

548
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: one right now, but I would certainly understand it.

549
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 3: Twenty six Walter Nolan, defensive tackle out of Ole Miss.

550
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: He makes a lot of plays and I have a

551
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: lot of ability.

552
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: Twenty seven Nick Scourton edge rusher. They listen is an

553
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: edge he's not. Yeah, six four two eighty five.

554
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: They played both those dudes on the edge of the Giants.

555
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: Weird weird system.

556
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: Twenty eight Shamar Stewart again, edge rusher out of Texas.

557
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: A six. He's six six nine, he's two inches taller, yeah,

558
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: and heavier.

559
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: Twenty nine Ariante Urseri offensive tackle out of Minnesota.

560
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: I think he's a tackle, Yeah, probably a right tackle.

561
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: But thirty Trey Amos, cornerback out of Ole Miss.

562
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna be someone we're talking about a lot too. Yeah,

563
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: if you trade down two or three spots, you know

564
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: he fits the mold with the length and the Mandaman stuff.

565
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: And you know thirty one is Princely Umanalen ed rusher

566
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: out of Ole Miss.

567
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: You get a lot of these edge rushers to be

568
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: Another theme is I think the Steelers want as many

569
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: edge rushers to go off the board as possible in

570
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: the top twenty, and there could be a few.

571
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: At thirty two. He's got a name that most people

572
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: have farther down the boards, Deane walkerfensive tackle out of Kentucky,

573
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: and he says he's listed at six six, but actually

574
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: might be closer to six eight.

575
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: He really stands out in an sec game of who

576
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: is that giant?

577
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: And that would be if he is six ' eight

578
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: would be one of the reasons why he has trouble

579
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: against a run Because you're six eight. Everybody's going to

580
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: get especially if you're in the interior. All the guards

581
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: and centers that you're playing against are six three at

582
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: most and there, Yeah, they're going to get under your pads.

583
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he needs to prove can he keep it

584
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: pad's low and all that stuff. Is he really a

585
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: nose or because they don't line him up at nose

586
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: all that much?

587
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, largely because of that.

588
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

589
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: Thirty three TYLERK Williams, defensive tackle, Ohio State.

590
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: He is a nose. Yeah, he's a six to three

591
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: yish guy.

592
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: Thirty four Caleb Johnson, running back Iowa.

593
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Pretty appealing, He's not easy to tackle.

594
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: Thirty five Tyler Booker, guard out of Alabama.

595
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: Probably the first pure guard. Yeah to go.

596
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: Thirty six Donovan Jackson guard, Ohio State.

597
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't think we talked much about him, but scouts

598
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: love him because he's probably a first round type of

599
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: guard or top fifty type of guard. A lot those

600
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: guys go early second round because don't want to use

601
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: the first fifth round option. But when what's his face

602
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: got hurt? Or left tackle? He had to go play

603
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: left tackle there? He did fine, you know, he's a guard,

604
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: but the fact that he did it and didn't help

605
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: his stock to do it, you know.

606
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: Thirty seven Jack Sawyer, defensive end out of Ohio State.

607
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: He just seems like you know what you're gonna get,

608
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: I mean safe.

609
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: Thirty eight Chavon Revel cornerback, East Carolina.

610
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: I would think he goes up and up, assuming he

611
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: can start working out. Yeah.

612
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to do any kind

613
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: of workouts before the draft, and that might might be

614
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: proch it down.

615
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: Right right, mean those things may.

616
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: Might One of these guys. I mean that he tore

617
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: his ACL in September. Does he ever get an opportunity

618
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: to work out? I don't know for his sake.

619
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: I hope he can do a private workout or a

620
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: private pro day or something a week before the draft.

621
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: You know, it might be something like that, or you

622
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: just you know, you got to bring him. He's going

623
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: to be he'll be a name. Yeah, he's gonna be

624
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: on everybody's visit list because everybody's gonna want to check

625
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: and see the latest update on that knee before the dread.

626
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: He's in the South Side in February or yeah, yeah.

627
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: March thirty nine, is Landon Jackson, the edge rusher out

628
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: of Arkansas.

629
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: Okay, again, a lot of edges and in the top fifty.

630
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: Forty Nick and Maori safety out of South Carolina.

631
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: Seems low. I mean for what he has physically, that

632
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: seems low.

633
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: He is a monster. Yeah, forty one. Kenneth Grant, defensive

634
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: tackle out of Michigan.

635
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: I think that's low too. Like I'd rather have him

636
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: than Walker for the Steelers in particular.

637
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, another one of these guys, Like I knows that,

638
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: like typical Michigan players, there's not a lot of production

639
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: in the production.

640
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: That goes back to Gary. Yeah, a lot of these dudes.

641
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: It's more of a projection than anything else. He's supposed

642
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: to be a really good tester. Yeah, he tests really well.

643
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: Forty two Ghad Campbell, linebacker out of Alabama.

644
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: Probably not the Steelers.

645
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: Forty three is Mike Greeney, edge rusher out of Marshall,

646
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: really good player. Forty four Cameron Williams, offensive tackle out

647
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: of Texas.

648
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: He's another one. I think it's pretty much a pure

649
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: tackle and could start. Is the go the Chiefs at

650
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: the end of the first round.

651
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: Maybe forty five JT tamloat defensive end out of Ohio State.

652
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys, both those guys who played a lot

653
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: of snaps.

654
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: Forty six Omri and Hampton, running back out of North

655
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: care Carolina.

656
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Speaker 1: He's probably our two. Don't you think both those guys

657
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: are good.

658
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: He's gonna run really fast.

659
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: He's done really fast. Yeah, he's a weapon. He's two

660
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: and twenty pounds. Yeah, yeah, like I don't.

661
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about the Steelers have a type at

662
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: running back. Yeah, you better at least be two hundred

663
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: and twenty pounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, if it is a high pick on.

665
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Speaker 3: Part of the conundrum has been, Okay, if you're gonna

666
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: have you're gonna be that big, You're probably not gonna

667
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: be the fastest guy in the world. This guy is.

668
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, even as good as lev Bell was,

669
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: he didn't break off eighty yarders all. Now, he's had

670
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: a lot of twenties and thirties. Yeah, you know, in

671
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: his best days, but he didn't run away from defensive

672
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: backs nause. He doesn't. Hampton Will Hampton opens it up. Yeah.

673
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: Uh Marcus Mabou out of Purdue at forty seven, now

674
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: he list him at center.

675
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: I saw that.

676
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna work out though, at center at the

677
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: at the at.

678
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: During the game, yeah, or at Senia Bowl. Yeah.

679
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: He's played left guard, right guard, right tackle at the

680
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Speaker 3: collegiate level.

681
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Speaker 1: It's not a great center draft. I mean, you could

682
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: easily become the best center pretty quick. Probably the Georgia

683
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Dude's the best center.

684
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Speaker 3: Draft forty eight for him is Jackson Dart, the quarterback

685
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Speaker 3: out of Ole Miss.

686
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I need to be more open minded with him,

687
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: to be honest, because I'm very prejudicing against those guys

688
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: that played in those Mickey Mouse goofy offenses. And that

689
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: doesn't mean just because the dude that came out of

690
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: there that Carolina drafted a couple of years Ago couldn't adapt,

691
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mean this guy can't. Yeah, but he's got ability.

692
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: Forty nine is Quinn Yours quarterback out of Texas.

693
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Speaker 1: I don't, yeah, talk about him being like the best

694
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Speaker 1: recruit in the country. He doesn't have a great arm,

695
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: he's not big, he's not fast. I mean, I don't

696
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: know how he was like the recruit in the country.

697
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: I must say he stinks. It's just I don't see

698
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Speaker 1: him as a super prospect.

699
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: Fifty Treveon Henderson and running back out of Ohio State,

700
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: he will take it to the house.

701
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

702
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: Now he's five ten eight, so when I when I

703
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: talk about the two hundred and twenty pound thing at

704
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Speaker 3: running back like jalm Warren, Iss, No, he's two twenty

705
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: but he's five nine and two. So he's built very

706
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: much like Nausey. You know, he's just a bowling ball

707
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: to tackle. You know if if if Jalen Warren were

708
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: six foot, Jalen Warren would be two hundred and forty pounds.

709
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. As what you're saying, though, do you

710
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: think Henderson is not for the Steelers? His big playability

711
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: is great.

712
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: It hasn't that hasn't been the kind of back Now

713
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 3: they've tried in various times, the dree Archers and guys

714
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: of that nature. Yeah, but they haven't taken you know,

715
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: one of these guys. They haven't had a feature back

716
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: who is that size since Willie Parker.

717
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: And I'm even going back just Arthur Smith's history too. No, right,

718
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: it's not even our year. You know, Bijeon's big. Henry

719
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: obviously was big. Yeah, you know, right, probably not where

720
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: you have to take Henderson. I mean, yeah, if you're

721
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Speaker 1: not give him a third round, right, I mean you're

722
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: gonna use a second on him, I would understand it,

723
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: but he better be your prototype to do that.

724
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So his his top five quarterbacks, cam Wards, Shador Sanders,

725
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: Jackson Dark, Quinn You weres Jalen Milroe, says Milroe in

726
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: there at running back, it's Genty, Caleb Johnson, Amari and Hampton,

727
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Trevon Henderson, and Quinn, Shawn Judkins.

728
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Speaker 1: Okay, for the Steelers, I prefer Judkins over as teammate,

729
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: but I can see why generically Henderson be more desired

730
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: at wide receiver.

731
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: He lists Hunter as his top wide receiver.

732
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: Got him somewhere, right, Yeah, than Burden McMillan, Golden EGIBA

733
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: tight end, it's Warren Colston, Lovelace, Mason Taylor from LSU,

734
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Elijah Rojo from Miami, and Gunner Helm from Texas. The

735
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Mac kid didn't make it.

736
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Speaker 3: It's a really good tight end draft.

737
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Speaker 1: It's a really good tight end draft. There's probably five

738
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Speaker 1: or six more on top of that.

739
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, the tackles were all listed there, as were the guards.

740
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: No centers made the list. No true centers. We don't

741
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: even need to go through them because the Steelers got

742
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 3: their center. Edge rushers were all in the first round,

743
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: five of them. Defensive tackles were all in the Yeah.

744
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: Linebackers well after Westeringser and g Hud Carter Y have

745
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 3: Barrett or Campbell, should say Barrett Carter from Clemson, Chris

746
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: Paul Junior from Ole Miss and Danny Stutsman from Oklahoma.

747
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: Be shocked the Steelers in that neighborhood.

748
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: His cornerbacks, she had Johnson, Will Johnson, john A Breron,

749
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: Trey Amos Revel and then Maxwell Harriston out of Kentucky's fifth.

750
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: He didn't make the list, but right not far off.

751
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, your safeties Malachi Starks, m Nowarri, Xavier Watts, Kevin Winston,

752
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: Andrew mccouba out of Texas, Kevin Winston.

753
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: From Penn State.

754
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: Surprisingly, the Notre Dame kid didn't make his top five corners.

755
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, that's the name missing.

756
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: There wasn't in the top fifty anywhere.

757
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: That is surprising. I doubt that's just injury related. Yeah, yeah,

758
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's surprised me. Yeah, but.

759
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: More familiar with these rankings going into the Senior Bowl

760
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: and that stuff could change over the next week here. Yeah,

761
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 3: and he'll update those on a regular basis here throughout

762
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Speaker 3: the rest of the off season.

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Speaker 1: Here.

764
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: Things change. You get more information, this guy's now healthy,

765
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: that guy's now.

766
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Hurt, especially with that kind of stuff. Yea, yeah, and

767
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: you find out more character stuff and you find out

768
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: new injuries at the combine, which is terrible, but that's

769
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: the way it works. Yeah.

770
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: So anyways, let's get to a break. When we come back,

771
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: Matt and I will preview the finish up the week

772
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: conference championship games, give our picks and those, and of

773
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Speaker 3: course you can hear our show here every Monday through

774
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: Friday from four to six pm right here on these

775
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: very airways. You can also download these Steelers mobile app

776
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: and get it downloaded right to your phone.

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Speaker 1: There.

778
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Speaker 3: Just to let everybody know, no video next week until

779
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: at all next week or Friday Friday will be back

780
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: up on YouTube. I'm going to be down in Mobile,

781
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: Matt will be back here in Pittsburgh, and we'll have

782
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: to do the show that way, so that doesn't lend

783
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: itself well to video.

784
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: Could have some guests though from Mobile.

785
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Speaker 3: Hopefully we could hopefully have to talk to people down

786
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: there and see if I can get them to come

787
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Speaker 3: on with me. But anyways, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 3: He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale LOLLI. This is the Drive

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

792
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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. And let's take a look at this week's

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Speaker 3: conference championship games. The first one will be played in

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia three o'clock Sunday on Fox Philadelphia. Favored by six

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Speaker 3: over the SUX seeded Washington Commanders. The over under forty

798
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Speaker 3: seven and a half. And uh, I don't think we're

799
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Speaker 3: expecting bad weather at either game. No, I'm mean it'll

800
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: be cold. Of course, it's Philadelphia's Kansas City. It's late January.

801
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: But I'm sure they'll be wind in maybe florry or two.

802
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's wely bad. I hate this

803
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: caused me injury for them. That's a that's a rough one.

804
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: It's a rough one. You wouldn't think it's that big

805
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: a deal, but it's exactly where.

806
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: Carter lines up. Everyone's doubling him like crazy and.

807
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: Kevin Dotson and you just say, he'll go over here

808
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 3: and double this guy while you run up the field

809
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: in a critical situation and allow you to sack the quarterback.

810
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: I tend to think that having a third game, it

811
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: probably favors the Eagles just because they have superior players

812
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: that have been around the block. I don't know how

813
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: much out scheming you're going to do in a game

814
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: like that. I do think they have a quarterback advantage

815
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: in Washington, though, I just don't know where a lot

816
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: of the other ones come from. I mean, he can

817
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: make play, he's gonna be hard to tackle. McLaurin and

818
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: the company are fine, but man, I think that defense

819
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: is strong. I don't think there's a lot of weaknesses

820
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: in it. I think the Commanders have come to an

821
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: end of a very nice road.

822
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: Ye been a successful season play one way or the other.

823
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Speaker 1: I don't like Philly's passing game where it stands right now.

824
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: And they're running the ball even more in the playoffs

825
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: than they did in the regular season, so something like

826
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: seventy four percent of their first down calls or runs

827
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I mean, it's off the charts. I

828
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Speaker 1: don't know how much charts will run, but that Saque

829
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: guy sure will.

830
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: He's pretty good.

831
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: He's pretty good. And I'm not sold on Washington's defense

832
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: as a championship defense. It's better. I thought it was

833
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna be At the start of season. I could see

834
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: this one getting away from Washington, and I think Philly covers.

835
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see Washington. How can I say this

836
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: politely doing something stupid early in the game, like going

837
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: for it on fourth and three and not getting it

838
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: and then the things, Yes.

839
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: And it's because that's just.

840
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: What they do.

841
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do, sure do a lot of some point

842
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: that bites you in the butt. And they're playing with

843
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: house money and yeah, yeah.

844
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: I get it.

845
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 3: I mean that's hey, that's what you do.

846
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: You roll with. They live by the sort to die by.

847
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: You're going to die by the sword at some point,

848
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: you know, in one of these games, and it's just

849
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: at some point it's going to bite you.

850
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: Really tough places to play. I mean, Eagles I think

851
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: are strong upfront. Guys like Nolan Smith are playing better

852
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: than giving credit for too. I mean, the defense as

853
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: a whole is so much better than it was a

854
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: year ago. I think they can contain Washington enough. And

855
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: then the other side of the ball I think really

856
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: belongs to Philly.

857
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eagles have won nine straight games at home.

858
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, awful place to play.

859
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: Really difficult place to play. The Commanders are five and

860
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: three outright and six and two against the spread this

861
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: season as underdogs, straight outright wins as underdogs.

862
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure the whole first six weeks of

863
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: the season they were dogs when the whole world didn't

864
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: know they were good.

865
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Speaker 3: Remember what the spread was when the Steelers were down there.

866
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: I think it was a low number, but I can't

867
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Speaker 1: remember who was even favored.

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Speaker 3: I can look that up here as we talked, continue

869
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: to talk about this game. Yeah, but I just think it.

870
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: It's been a nice story, and you know, we've seen

871
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: we've seen six seeds come through before and win. But

872
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: I think the Eagles just they're the better team.

873
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the better team. Their own line is really good,

874
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: the defense is maybe the best in the league. That's

875
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: a challenge man in their building.

876
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: The Commanders were favored by two and a half in

877
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: that game.

878
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean they were they were a good

879
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: football team.

880
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

881
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you laying the six?

882
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: That's the tough part, I think I am.

883
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have a problem with it either. I'm

884
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: definitely taking the Eagles and I'll give them I'll give

885
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: up the points. Yeah.

886
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: The second game, six thirty in Kansas City, the second

887
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: seeded Bills at the number one seeded Chiefs Kansas City,

888
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: now favored by two, was one and a half.

889
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: Rue bouncing back and forth. Yeah. Yeah.

890
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: The over under forty seven and a half. That's the

891
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: crazy thing to me is that both over unders are

892
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: forty seven and a half because I view these these

893
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: two games a little differently.

894
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: Me too. I like the over in this one much

895
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: more so than the other game. I think, do you

896
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: see it the same way? I think there's a lot

897
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: more points in this one. Yeah, and I could see

898
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: both these teams. Neither ones teams even throw the ball

899
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: down field that much. But I think by the fourth quarter,

900
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: gloves are off and it's just drive after drive, and

901
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, we get an all time classic and last

902
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: team has a ball wins type of thing, or it

903
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: comes down to a kick in the end. I'll take

904
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: the points, but I'm picking Kansas City to win.

905
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: I like Buffalo to win this out right, Yeah, I

906
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: do you know when they played in the regular season,

907
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: the Bills ran seventy one offensive plays to fifty two

908
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: for Kansas City. And they did that because they were

909
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 3: nine for fifteen on third downs. Yeah, Allen gives you that.

910
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, I think he's a round.

911
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: Factor on third downs. Where all right, it's third and six,

912
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: you got everybody covered.

913
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he got an answer for him. Yeah, you

914
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: don't have an answer for it. I don't know the

915
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: numbers exactly, but they're near the top of the league

916
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: in allowing scramble yardage Kansas City.

917
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they've kind of could They play

918
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: a lot of man on the back end.

919
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they blitz a lot. And if a blitz

920
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: doesn't get home, he goes to where the blitz was,

921
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, six tacklers instead of seven or you.

922
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: Know, I also just think it's his year.

923
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping it is. He's very very easy

924
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: to root for. I think he's a phenomenal football player.

925
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Chiefs to win it at home,

926
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: though a lot of it's just history. You know, the

927
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: Bills come up short all the time my whole lifetime,

928
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs go to the Super Bowl a lot.

929
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. The Chiefs have gone eight straight games,

930
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 3: including the playoffs, without turning the ball over.

931
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: No the turnover, So it's going to be massive, just

932
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: like Ravens Bills to go.

933
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: Nine straight games without a turnover.

934
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't happen. No, it's very rare. It's rare

935
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: to go six, it's rare to go five. Yeah, right.

936
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: And I do think their edge protection is a real problem.

937
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, the tackle stuff is very real. Could a

938
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: guy like everyone's talking about, like Kelsey, you know, he's

939
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: saving his best for last and they've could von Miller

940
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: make a big play, you know, an all times guys y, Yeah,

941
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: the last last Hurrah type of thing. Absolutely could Russeau's

942
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: and cause problems at Oliver In the end, though, I'm

943
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: going to bank on Reid and Mahomes and they're building

944
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: tough plays to play. Not that I think that the

945
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Bills will be phased by that. They've done it before,

946
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: but I'm so wishy wash you on it that any points,

947
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: I'll take the points.

948
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: The Bills committed the fewest turnovers in the league this

949
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: season with eight.

950
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: There's so few negative plays on that team, it's unbelievable.

951
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: They forced thirty five.

952
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they also had like the best sack

953
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: differential in the league. You know, things like that that

954
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: they don't you know, they they have reinvented themselves, especially

955
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Allen that they just just doesn't nothing negative. He mus

956
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: be such a wild.

957
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that. I mean, these two guys

958
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: are Alan and Mahomes are four and four against each

959
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: other outright and against the spread in their careers. But

960
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: Mahomes is three and zero outright and against the spread

961
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. That can't hold up. It just can't.

962
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: I think Alan's doing.

963
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: Those things.

964
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: Now. The interesting part of this, you know who the

965
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: official is for this game?

966
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: No, no clube one. Blakeman really different. But mister penalty

967
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: is doing the is doing this game. Who's that favor? Well,

968
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: I would think as it is with the Chiefs holds

969
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: and tackles, I would think that's bad for them.

970
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: So Mahomes has been was drafted in twenty seventeen. In

971
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: that time, Cleete Blakeman has worked twelve Chiefs games. Okay,

972
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are six and six. Wow, and Blakeman would

973
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: have to be their worst record with Eddie Raff when

974
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: everybody else officiates the game, they're a hundred and ten

975
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: and thirty.

976
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a tackle thing. I mean, their

977
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: defensive backs are kind of historically grabby and get away

978
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: with it, not more than others, but they will test that.

979
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

980
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: Juwan Taylor gets away with a lot of.

981
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: Stuff far quick. That's what.

982
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes me even more confident that the Bills

983
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: win this game.

984
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 1: It's a big deal.

985
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: I mean it's a huge deal.

986
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: It's a different crew. He doesn't have all the same folks,

987
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: but they talk.

988
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 3: And here's what I want to watch for, not yeah,

989
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: want to charge. He's still in charge and Cleete is

990
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: mister penalty. We went through all that stuff a couple

991
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, like he I.

992
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: Don't know who has a special team's advantage. The fact

993
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: that he's working this game, it means he graded really

994
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: well in the Vegas Game of the year. I mean

995
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the most watched game probably an NFL history.

996
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: The Chiefs game last year or last week. Was this

997
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: one's bigger on a better stage, against even a better opponent,

998
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: and they give to him.

999
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 3: Does it make you want to change your pick?

1000
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm taking the points. I'm taking the bill outright.

1001
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: No, you're talking about it's a two point game, one

1002
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: and a half point game right now. You're taking the

1003
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: points if you think, I think.

1004
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna go down to the last kick. And that

1005
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: was always down to the last.

1006
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: One of the things that I've always been was told like, okay,

1007
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: if you think, if you're gonna take the underdog points, yeah,

1008
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: minus three, you might as well take them to win

1009
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: the game, outright, because I get that the odds on

1010
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: PURSUITO tells me that all falling into that range or slight.

1011
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: Right, I think they can win, but I would Let's

1012
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: full transparency, I have not done anything on this game

1013
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: other than that I didn't take the over. But the

1014
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: second I see it go to two, I'm going to

1015
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: one and a half. I haven't, but if it goes

1016
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: to two, I'm gonna go in the bills.

1017
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think they just win it outright. They

1018
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: can go ahead and take the money line, and that

1019
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: in Casey, that's why you're getting points. I guess why

1020
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: the money line is going to be.

1021
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Do we think Casey would be a dog in Buffalo?

1022
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: Vegas? Must?

1023
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 1: I guess we're closed thirty to twenty one. The last

1024
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: time Casey goes to super Bowl. It's kind of what

1025
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: they do. I can't imagine.

1026
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: Can't here before and not going to the super Bowl.

1027
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow beat them in Kansas City.

1028
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: It's happened, but Joe doesn't.

1029
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what, take the bills.

1030
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: I am playing on it. I'm not packing them away.

1031
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: I can't believe the Chiefs would be a dog anywhere.

1032
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: Vegas is telling us in Detroit on the Moon and.

1033
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 3: They're saying it would be. They're saying it would be.

1034
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: Betters might change it, maybe come out with them getting

1035
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: a point, and they might, you know, but if this

1036
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: was in Buffalo, in case he was getting points, I

1037
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: would have already had money on it.

1038
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: They win championships, not every time, not every.

1039
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: Every time, but last two and a lot more sense.

1040
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: That's okay, not this year.

1041
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping that way.

1042
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: Not this year. I think I'm drawing a line in

1043
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: this and it is not gonna happen this year.

1044
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: I think.

1045
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: I think the Bills are.

1046
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: I do think the winner of this game's win the super.

1047
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: Bowl though, going to the super Bowl.

1048
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna win the super Bowl, Okay, yeah, yeah, the

1049
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: winner of this game is going to this I think

1050
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: the Bills could win it, but I'm gonna hold out

1051
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: for points.

1052
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 3: I think this is just Allen's season.

1053
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: I think it's hoping.

1054
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: I think it's a special year for him.

1055
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: I think he'll get one eventually. This year's probably his

1056
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: best chance yet. Yeah, there's no question about that. Candasity

1057
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: is not as good as they usually are.

1058
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 3: No, anyways, that's going to do it for today's show.

1059
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 3: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1060
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: on site making sure the everything sounds great and running

1061
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 3: the Justin Miller hotline, and for Tyler Vittmeyer making sure

1062
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 3: our video gets out there onto YouTube. I'm Dale Lelly.

1063
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,000
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