WEBVTT - Guns: What The Left Really Wants

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Garbatschev, tear down this wall. Either you're with us

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton, Welcome to Buck Sex this show. Everybody missed

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<v Speaker 1>you for the last couple of days. Excited to get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to chat with you here in the Freedom Hut.

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<v Speaker 1>As is our custom, we have a phone here that

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<v Speaker 1>you can call in. Are actually many phones eight four

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<v Speaker 1>four to eight to five, eight four four nine hundred buck.

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<v Speaker 1>And we should definitely chat about whatever you've got on

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. Um, we have more information now too. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me just give you a quick roadmap

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<v Speaker 1>to the show before I get into that and try

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about a whole array of issues today. I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to mix it up because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a understandably but there's been a very singular

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<v Speaker 1>focus to the news cycle in last week or so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to get to the possibility of a slapdown

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<v Speaker 1>to public sector unions requiring people to pay dues whether

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<v Speaker 1>they want to or not. Spreme Courts, UH. Spreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>heard oral arguments on that earlier today. We'll discuss that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff on sanctuary cities, including the mayor of Oakland

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<v Speaker 1>who's warning people about impending ice raids. You know this,

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<v Speaker 1>this gets interesting, folks, because sometimes law enforcement will even

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<v Speaker 1>make arrests and they'll claim obstruction of either government administration

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<v Speaker 1>or obstruction of law enforcement duties. And they've even done that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a case a while back where a guy

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<v Speaker 1>was flashing his lights to warn somebody of a speed trap.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I think that's law enforcement overreach and arrest that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did. Um interesting to see a in an

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<v Speaker 1>elected official in a in a major city like Oakland

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<v Speaker 1>giving people, giving people their heads up. Hey, hey, people

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<v Speaker 1>breaking the law. Federal government's gonna come in and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to some of you. So there's debt,

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<v Speaker 1>and then also the Democrat memo. We've got our buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Andy McCarthy will be joining on that later on in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I'm not opening with it or getting into

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<v Speaker 1>in the first hour because my predictions about it were

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<v Speaker 1>essentially entirely spot on, as tends to be my tends

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<v Speaker 1>to be my habit here, which is that it's there's

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<v Speaker 1>really no new information. All the good stuff is blocked out,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's left is talking points from Adam Schiff, partisan

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<v Speaker 1>whining and a repeat of what you'd see on MSNBC

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<v Speaker 1>or or CNN or any given night with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>FIS abuse, the targeting of the Trump administration, the targeting

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<v Speaker 1>of those officials. Right. This is it was just Adam

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<v Speaker 1>shift talking points, although they do admit that they oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was Papadopoulis and Carter and the dossier. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>all things that are oh yeah, the stuff you know

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<v Speaker 1>about that, that's that's a real thing that those names

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<v Speaker 1>appear in the dossier. I mean those names appeared rather

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<v Speaker 1>in the memo. The dossier was in fact used for

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<v Speaker 1>the FIES warrant. This is all very important and very

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<v Speaker 1>troubling stuff that we will get there in the third

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<v Speaker 1>hour with our friend Andy McCarthy and then end up

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<v Speaker 1>the show with some crazy left wing actually shutting down

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<v Speaker 1>speech by turning off the speakers. You're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>stay with me for that one. We'll have some fun

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<v Speaker 1>with that in the third hour. But the biggest story

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<v Speaker 1>in the country still right now is the aftermath of

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and the gun controlled debate and discussion has been moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>all moving forward. Despite all the uh bad arguments that

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard in the past, it seems this time around

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<v Speaker 1>there there will in fact be some changes. There's already

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<v Speaker 1>been changing state of Florida, and we need to look

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<v Speaker 1>at what's coming right now. We also have more information

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<v Speaker 1>or at least more soundbites from Sheriff Israel, Sheriff Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Israel of Broward County, who is looking like such a disgraceful,

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<v Speaker 1>distasteful o leagans fellow in all this just just slippery dissembling.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta stop using all the different words. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, the guys, the guys coming off

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<v Speaker 1>like a jerk and a liar. There we go, Buck

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<v Speaker 1>use the good words jerk and liar. That's accurate. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Tapper had that CNN town hall which as I

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<v Speaker 1>told you what was It was a debacle and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just people shouting and yelling and Dana lash looking

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<v Speaker 1>at everybody saying, Okay, let's talk about policies. Oh burn her,

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<v Speaker 1>she's terrible murderer, you know. No, let's talk about policies

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<v Speaker 1>that will make everyone safe for the oh burn her.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just crazy what was going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, see, I would say CNN should be ashamed.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, Ann has no shape. Come on, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>ashamed about this. I'm sure the ratings are pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up watching it on replay, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>painful experience, but it was a real thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>had to do. And you had Tapper, Jake Tapper over

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<v Speaker 1>at CNN who got the big interview, which what everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wanted UH to hear this weekend, which was Sheriff Scott Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>And here is because this goes to the whole notion

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<v Speaker 1>of law enforcement's role in this and I will say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, law enforcement in this case messed up big time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not new. You already know that, right, but we

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<v Speaker 1>need to understand the degree, the scale, and the specifics

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<v Speaker 1>of the mess up because we're gonna have any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a serious discussion about stopping the next one, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least having a chance of stopping the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta know what happened this time around, right, You

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<v Speaker 1>need to be very honest me to do an after

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<v Speaker 1>action report, and that's what we are doing here on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. What could have been different? What could have

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<v Speaker 1>been done to avoid this? From a law enforcement perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get into the gun stuff later, and I also

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the Australia comparison, because I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that right now. We even had some

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<v Speaker 1>former Australian pms on TV, you know, talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>they think that maybe maybe we should follow in their

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<v Speaker 1>footsteps when it comes to guns. You know, look, we

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<v Speaker 1>all know alls. These are great people. I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Australia, never been, but I've met lot,

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<v Speaker 1>I know lots of Australians. I love Aussies, um, But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to hear from their Prime ministers on

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<v Speaker 1>guns because not surprisingly, they don't know what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about. So we'll get into that aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>this as well. But first on law enforcements responsibility here,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. I mean dozens and dozens of calls to

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<v Speaker 1>the house Nicolas Cruz, people saying that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a shooter. FBI got the most detailed tip,

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<v Speaker 1>the most detailed information imaginable. You know, here's his name,

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where he lives, Here's why I think he's a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are people you can talk to about this. How

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<v Speaker 1>that does not get moved up the chain of command,

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<v Speaker 1>How that's not considered a a major issue is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You see? This is This is I know, a tense

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<v Speaker 1>play for some people to go, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go there. I'm not saying that the Counterintelligence Division of

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI has anything to do with the field office

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami or Brower County, or whichever specific FBI office

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<v Speaker 1>was handling this, or the FBI office that took the tip,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. Right, fbis field offices across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that, oh, well, one office was doing

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, another office was doing another. At zero sum.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I understand they handled thousands and thousands and

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of cases, so it wasn't a resources went into

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<v Speaker 1>the FISA dossier. Carter Paige surveillance situation and therefore did

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<v Speaker 1>not go And I mean, that's a that's a nonsense argument.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that. Of course. I always love it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And people who have never worked in intelligence or law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement to get all mad at me on Twitter, well

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if you understood the different field office separation from

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<v Speaker 1>the group. Thanks uh thanks, you know, women's in gender

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<v Speaker 1>studies professor, like, I got this, Okay, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really need the the unnecessary lecture where you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're saying and I do. Um. Here's why

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, though there are protocols in place, there

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<v Speaker 1>are rules so to speak, for how much attention and

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<v Speaker 1>how rapid the escalation should be when law enforcement is

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<v Speaker 1>presented with different situations. Right if, for example, somebody called

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<v Speaker 1>in an active shooter situation anywhere across the country, Right

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody said, you know, there's an active shooting going

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<v Speaker 1>on at X place, you would expect that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be or you know, and aiven an active shooter situation

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<v Speaker 1>even you would expect there would be a rapid response

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<v Speaker 1>of what we call e SU here in New York

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<v Speaker 1>City Emergency Services units basically swat UM. But that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you would expect and if that didn't happen, you'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to know why. And if you called in a uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lost cat up a tree, although I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that is maybe a fire department issue, right, does

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<v Speaker 1>in the fire department whatever, Let's say, let's say in

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<v Speaker 1>your locality, that's a police matter. A officer so and

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<v Speaker 1>so has it the feeline has escalated the arboreal sanctuary

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<v Speaker 1>in Yeah, but let's say that the officer has that one, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you would expect that the officer to go help the

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<v Speaker 1>cat in the tree. You know, I'm being a little

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<v Speaker 1>facetious here, but you get what I'm saying. You expect

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<v Speaker 1>that there would be a guy who or gal who

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<v Speaker 1>would show up when they could as they could, in

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<v Speaker 1>no particular hurry or rush. He has to do with priority, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that one. There's resources for one, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>resources for the other. It's just a question of what

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<v Speaker 1>gets attention and movement at what speed? Right, serious crime,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, felony in progress, cops sirens blazing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that is the protocol, and the FBI has said

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<v Speaker 1>the protocol was not followed with the active shooters with

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<v Speaker 1>the tip about the would be active or in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>But that still doesn't make me feel like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's out of line then to say, you know, Carter Page,

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<v Speaker 1>still not convicted of a crime, still not accused of

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<v Speaker 1>a crime, no evidence presented of a crime, and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, surveillance and you know FBI and all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's going on, and with all the different tips

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<v Speaker 1>and all the different red flags we've have with Nicholas Cruz,

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<v Speaker 1>somehow it was not I'm sorry, but it was not

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<v Speaker 1>prioritized the way that it should have been. So you see,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference between it's it's not a resources it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a zero sum resources argument. It's a what gets

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<v Speaker 1>people in law enforcement, in the different agencies and departments

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<v Speaker 1>involved to move to go to take something seriously, and

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<v Speaker 1>a tip about an active shooter is a much more serious,

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<v Speaker 1>much bigger deal than some clown who's hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>Russians and may or may not you know, want to

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<v Speaker 1>help them set up some sock puppets to say mean

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<v Speaker 1>things about hill Alory. I'm that that's just the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of the situation. People got very mad at me for

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<v Speaker 1>saying it wrote something, you know, let something rip over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend on this one, Um, I should stay off

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<v Speaker 1>social media the weekends because it's just you need to,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to dial it down a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>or dial it off. But that's one thing that really

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<v Speaker 1>struck me here is that you see that we have

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<v Speaker 1>this vast law enforcement apparatus. We have the best police

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, uh and dealing with incredibly difficult circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>and policing communities and doing it so well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, New York City is almost as safe as Tokyo,

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<v Speaker 1>our largest city, not just because I'm here and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it the best of the various law enforcement challenges,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, cities and a lot of you are

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<v Speaker 1>sitting around you're like, yeah, buck well, where I live,

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm listening to this show right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we average about in this county, you know, one murder

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<v Speaker 1>year maybe, and it's generally a domestic dispute gone wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>gone wrong. Right. I mean, there's we are. We are

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<v Speaker 1>overall a very very safe country. In fact, once you

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<v Speaker 1>start taking drug related violent crime out of the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that unless you generally speaking people I know

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<v Speaker 1>get hitting the cross fire. And but unless you are

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<v Speaker 1>around that in one way or another, UM, it's unlikely

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<v Speaker 1>to affect you. Um, we are actually a very very

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<v Speaker 1>safe country and our law enforcement does an incredible job.

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<v Speaker 1>Go spend some time in Mexico, talk to some journalists

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<v Speaker 1>there or or just average every day Mexicans about what

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<v Speaker 1>they think of their police and how their police are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just known that in and there are whole counties,

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<v Speaker 1>were states they would call them, but their whole states

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<v Speaker 1>where you can't trust the local police. You can only

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<v Speaker 1>trust the federal police. The federalists, you can't trust the

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<v Speaker 1>local police. So we have a debt of gratitude to

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement this country day in and day out. With

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<v Speaker 1>that said, Sheriff Israel and his entire sheriff's department and

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<v Speaker 1>the folks that showed up from his department on the

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<v Speaker 1>scene immediately, including that one officer Peterson who did not

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<v Speaker 1>go in, are a disgrace to the profession. A disgrace

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<v Speaker 1>to the profession. And I mentioned Jake Tapper before he

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<v Speaker 1>he at least asked the relevant questions here. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that the Broward Sheriff's office had done things differently,

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<v Speaker 1>this shooting might not have happened. Listen, if ifs and

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<v Speaker 1>butts were candy and nuts. Uh you know Uh O J.

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson would still be in the record book. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that means. Dead people. And there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>long list of things your department could have done differently.

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<v Speaker 1>How could listen? Uh, that's what that's what after action

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<v Speaker 1>reports are, that's for Lessons learned reports are for. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this guy Israel? Is he an imbecile? If if ifs

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<v Speaker 1>and butts were candy and nuts, what the heck is

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<v Speaker 1>he talking about? This guy is in charge of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the largest sheriff's departments in the country. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be kidding me. The only way this is possible. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, he's elected. He's a politician. Okay. Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>in Debbie Wasserman Schultz's district. Oh. And there's some other

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<v Speaker 1>stories about this district that have been bubbling up over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. There's some other information about this that we

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<v Speaker 1>should all know. Give us a better sense of how

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<v Speaker 1>was it possible that there could be such incompetence and

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<v Speaker 1>such cowardice in a sheriff's department in a major county

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida. We'll get into all that a much more

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<v Speaker 1>eight four to five eight four four nine. Buck will

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. Are you really not taking any responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for the multiple red flags that were brought to the

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<v Speaker 1>attention of the Broward Sheriff's Office about this shooter before

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<v Speaker 1>the incident, Jake, I could only take responsibility for what

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<v Speaker 1>I knew about. I exercises my my due diligence. I've

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<v Speaker 1>given amazing leadership to this agent. Amazing leaders I've worked, Yes, Jake,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't measure a person's leadership by a deputy not

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<v Speaker 1>going into These deputies received the training they needed. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you measue somebody's leadership, but whether or not they protect

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<v Speaker 1>the community. Maybe. Like at Jake Tapper, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he knew that he had he had to come out

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<v Speaker 1>swinging after that town hall fiasco or yeah, the town

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<v Speaker 1>hall thing whatever they called it. Um, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>a good job here. I I call it like I

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<v Speaker 1>see it. And I think that Tapper pushed back in

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<v Speaker 1>this interview amazing leadership. You know, my my leadership has

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<v Speaker 1>been amazing. This guy Scott Israel, He's what is amazing

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<v Speaker 1>is how quickly he'll throw anybody else under the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that, right, So you know what this guy you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about him getting tripped up in

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<v Speaker 1>ethical questions because his first move is gonna be whatever

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<v Speaker 1>is best for Sheriff Israel. That's that's how he's gonna roll.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how he's gonna do things. As I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the sheriff. My name's on the door. The people responsible

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones who took the calls and didn't follow

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<v Speaker 1>up on him, as it was with the FBI, as

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<v Speaker 1>it was with with anyone, with any person. Leaders cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaders are responsible for the agency, but leaders are not

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for a person. I gave him a gun, I

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<v Speaker 1>gave him a badge, I gave him a training. If

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have the heart to go in, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>my responsibility. Oh I, I I have to disagree Sheriff Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you'd like a dump coward and like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do nothing about it. You know, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep my job, my my parks and my big pension,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how we're gonna do it. I disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Israel here um. And I think that let many

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<v Speaker 1>of you listening who are current or former military be saying,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I'm from the officer and one of one

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<v Speaker 1>of my men does something terrible under my command, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. Actually. In fact, I had a friend many

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<v Speaker 1>years ago who in combat and our hawk was wrongfully

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<v Speaker 1>at one point associated with conduct that had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with him, but it was meant under his command,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was in some real legal jeopardy for a

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<v Speaker 1>short while there until it was all cleared up. But

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<v Speaker 1>he no one ever thought he had done anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>He just was the officer and it was in and

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<v Speaker 1>it was in combat, it was in an intense firefight,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a buddy of mine. I remember we

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<v Speaker 1>had a long talk. We spent a whole night just

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<v Speaker 1>drinking beers, back when I used to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>drink beer, and he told me about everything. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was after the legal jeopardy had passed. But that's how

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<v Speaker 1>it's the military and law enforcement. Guess, you know, pardon

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<v Speaker 1>the phrase, where does the buck stop? Early? Doesn't stop?

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<v Speaker 1>A sheriff Israel? That that much he's clear about. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's keeping his job. He's not stepping down. He's not resigning.

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<v Speaker 1>I think quite clearly, Sheriff, it's got Israel should resign

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<v Speaker 1>if there is to be any accountability for this situation,

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<v Speaker 1>it should be with first and foremost by many, many miles,

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<v Speaker 1>in many orders of magnitude, the shooter h even though

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<v Speaker 1>the press likes to pretend that number two on that

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<v Speaker 1>list is the n r A, and this has led

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<v Speaker 1>down to some corporate backlash that we'll get into in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. I think number two on the list should

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<v Speaker 1>be the guy who stood outside didn't do anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>number three should be Sheriff Israel himself. That's how I

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<v Speaker 1>see it. What do you think we'll be right back?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got to watch some deputy sheriff's performing

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. They weren't exactly Medal of Honor winners, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The way they performed was frankly disgusting. They were listening

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<v Speaker 1>to what was going on. The one in particularly he

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<v Speaker 1>was then he was earlier than you had three others.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I really believe you don't know until you

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<v Speaker 1>test it. But I think I really believe I'd run

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<v Speaker 1>into even if I didn't have a weapon, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think most of the people in this room would have

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<v Speaker 1>done that too, because I know most of you. But

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<v Speaker 1>the way performed was was really a disgrace. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to agree with the president, and I've agreed with them

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<v Speaker 1>all along. And I've seen a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>have come forward who are current or former law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>current or former military people who have run toward the gunfire.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say before and in some cases, men,

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<v Speaker 1>you men, you many times before those you listening to

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<v Speaker 1>who you are and just saying that you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is completely unacceptable. The government doesn't allow me

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<v Speaker 1>right in New York City, in New York State even

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<v Speaker 1>as well, doesn't allow me to carry around a firearm.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had enough weapons training in my day that anyone

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<v Speaker 1>around me would be safer from the prospect of violent

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<v Speaker 1>crime if I were armed. But I'm not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>be armed here, and I live in a state that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to change anytime soon, right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't walk around with a arm on my hip. And

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<v Speaker 1>part of the contract here, if you will, is that

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<v Speaker 1>the government will provide people, sworn law enforcement officers who

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<v Speaker 1>will risk themselves to save the lives of those of

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<v Speaker 1>us who are not allowed to carry. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>in some places you are allowed to carry. Is different,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's particularly feels particularly egregious. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you start to think about what this would mean nationwide

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<v Speaker 1>and across the country. Oh now, oh well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't. We can't expect law enforcement to to put

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<v Speaker 1>themselves at risk. They're putting themselves at risk every day,

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<v Speaker 1>put themselves at risk during traffic stops, when they go

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<v Speaker 1>into domestic domestic disputes. I think, actually, just recently, an

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<v Speaker 1>officer was killed in Baltimore, Maryland. He was off duty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just intervening in a domestic dispute, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the way of saying, you know, I think a husband

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<v Speaker 1>and wife or a girlfriend and boy from her fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>you got killed. The law enforcement was taking risks all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Why would we not in full? Was that

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<v Speaker 1>expectation on people who are sworn law enforcement, who are

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<v Speaker 1>armed in the circumstances where they have the most obligation,

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<v Speaker 1>the most clear obligation to protect life out of school shooting?

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<v Speaker 1>What could be more obviously and more obvious and cut

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<v Speaker 1>and driving that. I was very surprised at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the pushback that I was initially hearing over this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is that has died down a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and so now we can just I I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>spend some time with you all on this law enforcements

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<v Speaker 1>failures here are being pushed aside by the left because

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<v Speaker 1>the narrative has to be about gun control, not about

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement. Failed at every level at every opportunity in

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<v Speaker 1>the Stoneman Douglas shooting, and they did. They failed that

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<v Speaker 1>at every single juncture, at every opportunity. But also note

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<v Speaker 1>and others have been pointing this out, it is strange

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I look, I don't do the conspiracy thing here.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys all know that, and gals, I don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>a microaggression, um, but I don't do the thing where

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<v Speaker 1>I just come up with some conspiracy that I think

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<v Speaker 1>will get people. Who is and I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about this crazy thing this guy is saying, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I try to give you objective truth as much

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<v Speaker 1>as possible all the time. But it is hard not

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<v Speaker 1>to notice that in the Las Vegas shooting, which killed

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<v Speaker 1>a few dozen more people and hit five people I

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<v Speaker 1>believe wounded all in how quickly the media moved on

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<v Speaker 1>from that. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it is strange. And perhaps it's because what's been

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<v Speaker 1>so important to the media this time around is that

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<v Speaker 1>they have young people that they are pushing forward. They're

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<v Speaker 1>pushing them forward to be the kind of official spokespersons,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, of gun control. And they are victims.

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<v Speaker 1>There are those who had been in the past. There

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<v Speaker 1>are those who had been at the at the shooting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one difference here, so that maybe it it's

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<v Speaker 1>just at this time around, there's a more effective mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>for making the argument about gun control, which is you

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<v Speaker 1>have traumatized kids push forward by the media really being

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<v Speaker 1>used as political props. I'm sorry, but that is what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. Because the kids that want to say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to the first responders who did risk themselves, who

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<v Speaker 1>did run in, who did save lives, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do believe that armed teachers are a good idea,

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're getting way less play. There are a few favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>The media has picked some favorites here, some spokespersons for

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<v Speaker 1>the group hashtag never again. And that is a distinct

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<v Speaker 1>change between what we're seeing here and what we have

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<v Speaker 1>seen what we saw at Las Vegas, where we still

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the motive, and there's and law enforcement just

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<v Speaker 1>flat out said a bunch of stuff right after that

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<v Speaker 1>that was not true. Um, isn't it amazing to see

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of Florida, though the Democrats who are

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<v Speaker 1>so quick to usually pick a very small incident or

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<v Speaker 1>a very specific incident, I should say, not a small incident.

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<v Speaker 1>Scratch that from a very specific incident though, of local

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement in one place, and extrapolate from that a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with law enforcement across the whole country. All law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>to see what this one cop did. All law enforcements

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<v Speaker 1>so racist. We'll see what this one cops said in

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<v Speaker 1>these text messages. All law enforcements all racist, including non

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<v Speaker 1>white law enforcement. They'll say that they're part of the

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<v Speaker 1>racist system too, which is I mean, I I would

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<v Speaker 1>find just I find offensive on many levels. Right. But

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida, though, with the bumbling and the mess ups

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<v Speaker 1>and the miss missteps and all the stuff that we've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>the media is no interest in talking really about the

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways from the law enforce and failures they have to

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<v Speaker 1>report them. Although I will know they held it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if anybody says they held it. There were

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<v Speaker 1>four deputies on the scene until Friday, and they told

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<v Speaker 1>us at six pm Friday that was held. People had

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<v Speaker 1>that information now wasn't just the Sheriff's verminent had it

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<v Speaker 1>or was with other people, but it was held. It

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<v Speaker 1>was also help ul after the town hall that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a sheriff's deputy on the scene who was outside,

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<v Speaker 1>who's now saying, oh, he didn't know. It's just so obvious, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen the the transcript of him trying to defend

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>his actions here or his inactions, and it just couldn't

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>be anymore obvious to me. What's going on. He's like, oh,

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if the gunfire was inside or outside,

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<v Speaker 1>so I took a defensive position outside, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're trained to do. Trying very hard to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with it, you know, and have a few days here

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<v Speaker 1>to think this one over. And look, if we have

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<v Speaker 1>a a sheriff's deputy on the scene who's got a firearm,

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't know the difference between gunfire from inside of

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<v Speaker 1>building and gunfire that is outside of a building, I

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>think we got a whole of separate set of problems.

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Um you're canna tell me, is no ability to to

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.639
<v Speaker 1>differentiate that? I mean, does he ever hear? What? What's

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>what are we to make of this? Um? Anyway? That's

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a non starter. I wanted to get into some

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>of the some of the policies here. I will say

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I was a little the gun control policies that are

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>being but for I was a little surprised that the

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>President said this today. I'm wondering if you all have

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on it. Don't worry about the n RA there

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 1>on our side, you guys here, for you are so

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>afraid of the n RA. There's nothing to be afraid of.

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>And you know what I've done with you. We have

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to fight him every once in a while. That's okay.

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 1>They're doing what they think is right. I will tell

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>you they are doing what they think is right. But

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we're gonna have to be very tough and we're

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to fight them. I don't see the place

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<v Speaker 1>where there's any need to fight the n r A

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<v Speaker 1>on this issue. I don't see where that the n

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>r A is uh. And it's particularly clear for me.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>As many of you know, I used to work with

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Dana Lash who's the n r AS spokesperson when I

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>was at the Blaze. I know Dana well. I worked

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>with Dana or the years, countless hours now and she's

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>out there saying on behalf of the NRA A, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should do a better job with background checks, information

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>from the states get to the federal level. Yeah, and yeah,

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, we should consider mental health legislation that might be,

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the way ways we can get mental health,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the mental health system to be able to deal with

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>this and an imminent threat. Um. I've been proposing or

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<v Speaker 1>proposing trying to support the idea of temporary restraining orders

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>for people that are believed to be imminent violent offenders

0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>with with guns. We've had David French on talk. I

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>think that's also very worthwhile proposal. I haven't heard the

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>n R A say boo hoo to that. So what

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>do we have to fight the NR and raising the

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>age limit? I mean, come on, raising the age limit

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<v Speaker 1>is penalizing many millions of people for their Second Amendment

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>rights and it is not going to do anything to

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>stop a determined school shooter. Um. But I suppose that's

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the one place maybe where there's some disconnect between the

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>White House and the n RA on this, you know,

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>at the age limits twenty one. I'm just I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the one who says it right now. They they

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>if they make the age limit twenty one for semi autos.

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Not long before they're gonna say, you know, maybe it

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>should be like renting a car. Maybe you should be

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>like twenty five, you can get a semi auto. Let's

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>let's make it and then there'll be another shooting. Let's

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>make it thirty. As long as the focus is on

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.959
<v Speaker 1>the firearm and not the problems around it and problems

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>surrounding it, and law enforcements obligation to at least have

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>own semblance of competence in dealing with the issue, we

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>will not get very far with lessening the probability of

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a mass shooting event like this. UM. All right, well,

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>let's take some calls on flip side of this break.

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the Australia model. I think

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>we actually had a caller from Australia a minute ago

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>who wanted to talk about that specifically. So I saw

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you drop off. If the hopefully the charge there's no

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like charges for calling in from Australia. UM. But we'll

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>get into all this in more. Eight four to five.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of lines lit. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>spot I think open, so we got room for one more.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>If you want to jump in the conversation and the

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<v Speaker 1>next hour we'll talk more about the gun control policies,

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe some Democrat memo stuff. Oh, public sector unions. We're

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna beat up on some public sector unions. That's gonna

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.239
<v Speaker 1>be fun. You're ready for that if you work for

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>like the you know, teachers unions or something. Might not

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>be your favorite segment, but maybe you'll like it, you know,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe you're maybe you're like the Ron Swanson of the

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>teachers union and hope the whole thing comes crumbling down.

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that more coming up. Stay with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, team. I know we've got a lot of lines,

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>let people have. Everyone's got a lot to say on

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>this issue, as you should, so let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Joy in Mississippi, Hey, Joy, hip up. Hello. I have

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a simple question, Yes, ma'am. Uh. Why is it when

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a drunk driver runs into people, it's the driver's fault,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>And when hi hijackers fly a plane in the World

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Trade Center, it's the hijacker's fault. When a cop sheets

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>an unarmed black man in the back, it's the cops fault.

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>But when some jerk shoots up the school, it's the

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>gun fault. Yeah, It's a very good question, and I

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>think we know the answer is because of the gun

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>has a gun? Guns have become a cultural and political

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>symbol much more than a tool that can be used

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>for good or used for evil right in the in

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the eyes of the left, guns are symbolic of much more.

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>They're symbolic of state power, or really the refusal to

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>completely submit to state power. Guns are a little active

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>personal revolution, each one of us willing to say there

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>are lines you cannot cross. Uh. And for statuss and

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>for progressives, that's a that's just crazy thinking, Joy, that's unacceptable. Yes,

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>could I add one thing? He asked about Trump's comments

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to the n R A UM. You know, there's a

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>quote by Benjamin Franklin in seventeen fifty nine that said

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>they that can give up essential liberty to obtain a

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. That's something

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>people should keep in mind. I agree, Joy, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much for the call. Appreciated. Charlie in Ocean City, Maryland. Hey, Charlie, Hey,

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>glad to talk to you, you too, Yeah. Hey, on

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>just sure of Israel. I think he's uh, he's completely

0:32:55.920 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>missed everything. He's a lefty. We know that four of

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>his deputy did not perform and he had to sign

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>off on their training. He had to put the stamp

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>of approval on their training, so he's accountable. Then then

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you go to these kids, and I'm a grandfather of

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>ten and most of them are teenagers. And when they

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>do something wrong, I confronted with it. They when I

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>go visit them, they love to sit down and talk

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to me. So these kids bully this other boy beyond belief.

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And I don't hear any reports about that. Why is that?

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, I can't give you much of a profile

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>of his interactions with the other students because, as you're saying,

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's true, I haven't read that much about that.

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that people would be very hesitant to you know,

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants in any way excuse or downplay or try

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to mitigate the evil that Nicholas Cruz committed that day,

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think for some it might feel like a

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>distraction from the real responsible party here to say that

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>there were others who were bullying him. But he was

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 1>clearly a kid that had problems, and I'm sure had

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of issues with his fellow students. And we've

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>seen some reporting about that. Um, but Charlie, you know,

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of kids who are bullied who

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>don't do thank thank heavens, don't do what this guy did.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>So bullying is not a as I know, you know,

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>bullying is not an excuse. I haven't seen much of

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a much reporting on it, though, So I'd be curious

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to see some of these kids though, And thank you

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>for calling it, Charlie. Some of these uh, Trench Code

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>mafia types which if you remember, the Columbine Shooters were

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in this group called the Trench Code Mafia, and there

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was a term the people in the late nineties and

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 1>early two thousands, people would use. Some of these They

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>actually have a when you go and you read about them,

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and uh, there's a a separation sure, and and maybe

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>some signs of some signs of sociopathy or even psychopathy

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>being a psychopath. Although some a lot of school shooters

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>were able to function pretty or at least come across

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>as pretty normal when they wanted to right beforehand. Um,

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>but these kids also separate themselves and to develop an

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>aggressive arrogance as part of the profile. You know, they

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>become disdainful. Now you could say, that's just a defense

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>mechanism to being rejected by their peers. May that may

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>very well be the case, but they become aggressive, arrogant,

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and disdainful of their peers and choose to separate themselves

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and choose to look down on and want In the

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>case the Columbine kids, it was well known. I mean

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to get they there was a want to

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>get even with the with the popular kids aspect of

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that heinous crime. Mark in North Carolina. We got a

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>little time here. Mark wanted to get you in. How

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>much is a little time? Mark? We've got about a

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>minute and thirty seconds, which is which is a lifetime

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>on radio, my friends. So go ahead, yes, yes, I've

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>got a little thing and a big thing. Which would

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>you rather have? Let's let's give me the little thing. Okay.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>We are told that this guy is the shooter, actually

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>arrived at school with an uber driver, okay. And of

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>course he owns ten guns and ammunition and lord knows

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>everything else he had at his house. But apparently this

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>kid could never afford a car, which is also a

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of Bodi's nineteen And I don't know what you

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>do in the United States if you're nineteen without a car. Well,

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 1>he actually got a twenty five thar check I think

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>from the insurance after his mother passed away, and he

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>used that, from what I read, to buy some of

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>his fires. But go ahead, grands enough money to get

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a car, as you know, and get a car for

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand these days. But anyway, there's a report

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>for one of the teachers who actually we saw him

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and was shot in the arm. The teacher was and

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>she said that she saw the man in full metal

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>guard with a helmet, face masks, bulletproof armor, shooting a

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>rifle she'd never seen before. Okay, then if you go

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>back to the official timeline, one of the Broward County sheriff,

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>he was dropped off at two nineteen and at three

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>three he's firing in the halls. Mark, I'm gonna have

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to revisit this, my friend. I'm sorry we actually are

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>at time. Welcome back to the Buck Section show. Everybody

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>our two has already gotten going our tours here. We

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>have much much to discuss, and I would note that

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, the Sunday shows, the weekend shows, they

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>try to set the political tone the conversation for the week,

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>and as we knew, it was on me all about

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>gun control. I'm gonna talk about the Australia problem in

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>just a moment here, and I will I will not.

0:37:55.440 --> 0:38:00.439
<v Speaker 1>We're not the Australia problem, the Australia h car which

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>is often played here. Oh, we should be like Australia,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>except Australia didn't work out the way they said it would.

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>They're lying about it and we could never do it

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>here even if we wanted to. But put that on

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:17.240
<v Speaker 1>hold for just a moment first. And also the public

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>sector union thing, we're gonna take them to task in

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a few minutes. First year. It's something that's been going

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>on here. I've been mentioning to you that in the

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>gun control vanguard you have children who are handpicked by

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the media teenagers. Really to call them children is a

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>little you know, I think we should have some This

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 1>would be more precise than the terminology here. Right, eighteen

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>plus you're an adult, not a teenager. When you're eighteen,

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you're an adult. Okay, I mean technically you're a teenager,

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of things are technical. Um, if you're

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, sixteen seventeen, you know you're you're an adolescent,

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you're a young adult whatever, call them children is I

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>think a little I'll be honest with you, I think

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit. That's a little disparaging. It's a

0:38:55.880 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>little condescending. They're not tentent, they're not eight. But do

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>you have these young people there? You go, these young

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>people who are out there making the case, and some

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>of them are very much pro gun control, some of

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>them are not. Some of them want to talking about

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement and the job they did and other issues here.

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But there's one in particular, this young man named Hog.

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>David Hogg. Is that right? I think it's David Hogg. Yeah,

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And he has every right to say what he's saying,

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>just as I have every right to say that I

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>disagree with him. But it's more than just saying that

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>he's wrong on the facts and ignorant of the Second

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Amendment and gun control, which he is. This guy with

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the media as enablers, they are really handlers and enablers

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 1>for some of these hashtag never again uh teenagers who

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 1>are pushing this gun control narrative and who now you know,

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I think Hogg has like three thousand Twitter followers now right,

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're they're becoming let's be honest, they're becoming

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>political celebrities in this process. That is what is happening here. Um.

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>They are also to be held to account for their words. Right,

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>just because you have suffered a a very traumatic situation,

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I would know that. In In the case of a hog,

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't believe he was uh, And I

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>could be wrong here. I don't. I don't believe he

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>was wounded, although he's gone through the trauma of losing

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 1>of classmates and friends and teachers. Um. But there are

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>limits to what we can excuse based upon age and

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>based upon our desire to be understanding of what some

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>of these young people are going through, even though they're

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>now making themselves public figures and going on national television.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think we've crossed some of those limits here.

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>She wants Congress to take action, and she says that

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>they won't. Are you kidding me? She owns these congressmen.

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>She can get them to do things. It's just she

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care about these children's lives. That is a slander.

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>That's not okay to say. He was speaking about Dana lash,

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the n r A spokesman and also a former colleague

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and friend of mine. Um, that's not okay to say.

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>It's not true, and it's a gross thing to say,

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's not something that should be I don't care

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>what this kid has been through or what what has

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>You're not allowed to accuse people of terrible things with

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>no evidence just because you don't like them or their

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>political positions. And you're seeing this now where they say, oh,

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>how how dare you look what he's been through? It's

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not No one's commenting one way or the other

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>on the the trauma of being a student at a

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>school that's just suffered this mass casualty incident. I'm going

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 1>to comment on the fact that his knowledge of gun

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 1>control and gun control policies is almost zero, and more

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.439
<v Speaker 1>importantly to me, he's going around and saying things about

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>people that are disparaging, that are false, that are defamatory.

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.439
<v Speaker 1>That's not okay. You don't just get to do that.

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>And this is the danger of using victims as political tools,

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>which Democrats have been doing openly and shamelessly for as

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 1>long as I've been alive. Right, this is one of

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>their favorite things to do. Find someone who has suffered

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>a tragedy, put them forward, and then assume that they

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>are inoculated from any criticism or any pushback of any kind.

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>And with with Hog, they're saying that, you know, Dana

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't care about first of all, saying that she

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 1>owns Congress. I mean, look, Dana is an influential lady

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and everything, but give me a break. She doesn't own

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>hasn't own Congress. There's an't own members of Congress. It's

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>just a that's a foolish thing to say. And then

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to say she doesn't care about dead kids is an

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>unfair thing to say. It's wrong. An anchor should if

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they were going to be journalists, say hold on a second,

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Mr Hog, you know that's do you have any evidence

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>for that? That's that's going too far. You know, that's

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>just using a national platform to smear someone. And I

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>can tell you this. They you know, they wouldn't allow concerned,

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't allow a conservative point of view. Two, they

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't allow a conservative victim to go on TV and

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>just slander somebody. You know, they wouldn't allow something to

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>go on TV and say, you know, Nancy Pelosi doesn't

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>care about dead children, right, And they shouldn't unless there's

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a real reason for her saying that. I mean, if

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about Nancy pelosi support for planned parenthood, well

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>then yes, in fact, actually Nancy Pelosi doesn't really care

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>about that children. But that's a different discussion, and that's

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>completely That's an argument I'm willing to have with anybody.

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not just Nancy Pelosi either, But I will get

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>very much separated from the issue at hand if I

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>don't go back to this gun control discussion that we're

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>having right now. So, uh, the Australia case. I want

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about this. We will get into

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the Australia situation because this is what's used as the

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the favorite talking point now for see all the stuff

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that we've been discussing, all the different policy proposals that

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>either the n r A is okay with or Republicans

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>are putting forward or all that is, uh, not really

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>what the left wants. What the left wants is something

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>more like Australia. In fact, what the left really wants

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 1>is something more like Japan, where they truly are almost

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean not no guns, but very very very few

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>guns in private hands. Um, But they stay away from

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Japan for a whole bunch of reasons. There are historical

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>reasons why comparing the US to Japan and the Second

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Amendment would be less of a less of a compelling cell.

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I think for them a whole, you know, allied with

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Nazi Germany thing and tyranny and imperialism and everything else,

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and the resistance against tyranny from people who are armed

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>as something you can have a discussion about in the

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>context of the Second World War pretty easily. Um. But

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.839
<v Speaker 1>back to Australia, which is a much there's a reason

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that he is Australia. It's a society that minds a

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of Americans, very much of our own, you know,

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>we speak the same language, shared shared cultural traditions. England

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 1>was our you know, our our our granddaddy. And the

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Australian model does not work the way they say it does,

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and it would not work for us, and I will

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I will explain why after the break, and then I

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>think we'll move on to some talk about public sector

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 1>unions because I don't want to skip that. That is,

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like redistricting in that you bring it

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:28.919
<v Speaker 1>up and people are like, no, I want to hear

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>more about Russia collusion or like, you know, whatever other

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:36.919
<v Speaker 1>things that get much more attention in the conservative media world. Um,

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>but there are things that that actually do matter a lot.

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Redistricting matters to who's going to run the country, and

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>public sector unions in much the same way, and their

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.479
<v Speaker 1>power also matters. I think they gave a hundred million

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>dollars in the last election cycle two candidates public so

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:58.959
<v Speaker 1>employees of the state are donating over a hundred billion

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>dollars to campaign of people who are going to run

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the state. What could go wrong? Obviously a lot of things.

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>So Australia public safe unions and more. Democrat files a

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>memo by the way, which is not that exciting. One

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>would open the show with it. But we've got some

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>super some worthwhile stuff too to talk about on that Um,

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.399
<v Speaker 1>that's all coming up. So we've got a show that's

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>ready to rock and roll. Stay with me. One of

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the things that people don't talk about a lot of

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>these schools, Sandy Hook had an all female faculty from

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>principle to teachers. And for a woman, were you going

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 1>to hide that gun during the day. You can't put

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>it in your desk, Droyer, somebody might steal it, and

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't get to it. You're not going to have

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 1>it in a safe in the principal's office. You can't

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>get to it on your person, hiding it if you

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>wear a dress, if you wear a skirt, are you

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to wear a jacket every day with a

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>belt and a holster the way a detective you know,

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm duty would do. Um, It's it's not a real

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>practical solution. You have this guy Tom Fuente is over

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 1>at CNN, who's used to in the FBI, who's just

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. This is analysis Apparently because there are

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of women in different schools, then it's impractical

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>for some teachers one teacher, five teachers, who knows how many,

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 1>depends on the size of school, to conceal carry because

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>women who are wearing who wear, you know, a skirt,

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>can't conceal carry. This is he really not familiar with

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 1>how this stuff works. Career FBI official, I will say this, Uh,

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's important to remember that government is think of government,

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>especially these government bureaucracies. True of the c I A,

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 1>true of the FBI, true of all these large bacs.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Think of it like a state's like a state school, right,

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.879
<v Speaker 1>just your your average state school, the very large state school. Though,

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, with tens of thousands of students, there are brilliant,

0:47:55.160 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 1>amazing people there, there are also morons. And as we

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>see this uh now revolving door, it seems to people

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that working and you know, look, I'm I was a

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>part of it, right of people that work in government,

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>go to media, go back to government, go to media.

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Just understand that just because you work for a place

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>for just because someone worked for a place for a

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 1>long time that has a you know, a robust history. Right,

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>just because somebody went to a reputable state school, doesn't

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 1>mean they're not a moron. I'm gonna want to tell

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you this. And so in this case, state schools think

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 1>of it like CIA, FBI, d O J, all this stuff. Um,

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of very very unimpressive dumb people at

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>all of those places. I'm and I know, I'm not guessing,

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not theorizing. I know, and they're also incredibly brilliant pople.

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 1>People know way more about a whole lot of things

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>than than me or anybody else I know in media. Right,

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>So it runs the gamut. I just feel that a

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of us have this impression, well a career law

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>enforcement's career law enforcement. Any must really don't know his stuff.

0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe some of them do, some of them don't. And

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>if Fuentes was actually I'll tell you a quick little

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.879
<v Speaker 1>little side note here went is I remember was one

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 1>of the people who when I was at CNN and

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you will recall the redactions of the Pulse Nightclub shooters

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>transcript and I'm on air in Fuentes is on air.

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>We're doing you know, our analysis. I'm you know, former

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>analysts CI analyst box exid and he's like junior FBI

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like blah blah blah, and he's taking the position that

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the redactions in that transcript were not Remember this was

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Obama administration stuff. We're not about political correctness. We're not

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 1>mandated from the top. Nobody at d o J even

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>knew about it that they were going to release redacted

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 1>phone transcripts from the Pulse Nightclub shooters call and that

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>it had nothing to do with politics and that this

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was just a call made by the by the FBI

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 1>field agents that were there. And I'm like, dude, are

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you saying it because the people paying want you to

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:02.919
<v Speaker 1>or you are you not smart? It's one or the other.

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I spoke to other FBI folks who are like, including

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>people still in the FBI, who were like, uh, yeah, no,

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not how it's something at that level. Wouldn't just

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:14.800
<v Speaker 1>be something that an FBI guy did. Yeah, I'm just

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna redact. Remember what they were redacting? I pledge allegiance

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to redacted. And America is like, yeah, isis I'm doing

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>this in the name of blank America. I'll right, I

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we we They were redacting things that everybody and then

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>they changed the decision, they went back on it. But

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:38.439
<v Speaker 1>I remember Fuentes was giving me, giving me a hard time.

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Decision being made by the people in the field. There's

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>no politicization here as soon as not did you. Jay

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even know. Laura Lynch wouldn't even know about this.

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even know. I know nothing to do with it.

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh really, really, Fuentes, why don't you explain to me

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 1>how women can't conceal carry if they were a skirt dummy? Okay,

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>We're was that? Oh gosh, Australia. Gun control in Australia.

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Um well. The one thing is one of those sad

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 1>things about punditry is that when you're on air and

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you say things and you're right. They never bring you

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 1>back and they're like, oh, by the way, when we

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>were piling on you and saying you were wrong and

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you were right, we just wanted to apologize for being

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>so weird and nasty to you on air during that

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>because that actually that would have been great because I

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:26.439
<v Speaker 1>would have been on seen and all the time they're like, wow, Buck,

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you were right. How did you know? Oh that thing

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 1>when you said it was the gee hottest terrorist, you

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:31.919
<v Speaker 1>were right? How did you know? You know? That would

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have been a fun recurring segment. But they don't. They

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. How dare you? We found this. We

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 1>found this person who was the assistant Deputy under Secretary

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>of something or other who worked for Loretta Lynch for

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>a few months and and he says, you know, oh my,

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:52.279
<v Speaker 1>um okay, So Australia, here's what you need to know.

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's here's here's the short version of my friends, or

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe actually even the long version. I'll give you the

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>short version. There are two ways to look at the

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>gun control model of Australia. One is on the question

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:10.840
<v Speaker 1>of efficacy or effectiveness. Right, did it did it achieve

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the desired purpose in Australia, and the other is could

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>we do it here? Is it realistic? So let me

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>start with what Australia's gun control policy is was and

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>what people say about it, and then what the reality is.

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.320
<v Speaker 1>So they had a mass shooting in Tasmania at a

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 1>resort I think over thirty people killed. I forget now,

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I was back in the seven and they instituted a

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>mandatory gun buyback program, which is a gentle way of

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>saying confiscation with confiscation, um with compensation. That's what that is.

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 1>It's confiscation with compensation, gun buy back. But they're saying

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:50.439
<v Speaker 1>give me your weapon, I'll give you a hundred bucks,

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>are two hundred bucks or whatever it is. Whatever they're

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:55.760
<v Speaker 1>going great is they did that with about a million

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>firearms and the murder rate went down and they haven't

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>had another mass shoting. Sense. Okay, now people pointed this,

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>they say, see Australia did it, we can do it too.

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>That's just complete nonsense. Let me just start with what

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:13.439
<v Speaker 1>really happened in Australia. Australia's crime rate, to begin with,

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:18.839
<v Speaker 1>was very low. Australia's rate of mass shootings to begin with,

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 1>was basically non existent. That's why this shocked the country

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>so much. Right, they had this one big mass shooting,

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.239
<v Speaker 1>but they hadn't had one before it for years, maybe

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>even decades. So that one incident and then they said, well,

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have another one for a long time after it.

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 1>There must be some correlation, but there's not enough of

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the data said, it's not like they were having three

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 1>or four mass shootings like this. And then they did

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 1>this buyback program and it stopped. No, they just didn't

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 1>have any mass shootings. They had one, they had a

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 1>buyback program and they didn't have any mass shootings after

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and they said, we'll see, we solved it. But no,

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not actually addressing whether or not at work.

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>That's just much more to do with Australia and how

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.360
<v Speaker 1>many mass shootings it has um. They also point to

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it though, for a violent crime and this is another

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:05.879
<v Speaker 1>place where if you look at the trend the trend

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.399
<v Speaker 1>line for violent crime in Australia, which was already very low,

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>was going down, going down, going down in the eighties

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and the nineties, trending down each year. And you're really

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:20.799
<v Speaker 1>talking about I think a few hundred homicides max in

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the country. In the country, Okay, So you're talking to

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.839
<v Speaker 1>a very small sample set to begin with in Australia.

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And then they institute this gun buyback program and guess what.

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It actually kind of trended up a little bit for

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a year or two after that in terms of violent

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>crime and holeda, but it just continued. It's it's downward decline.

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 1>And now Australia is at a point with uh, you know,

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:49.839
<v Speaker 1>about one in a hundred thousands a murder, a murder

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:51.799
<v Speaker 1>rate of one a hundred thousand, I think something like that.

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's tiny, tiny, okay. So there's no

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>way to look at this and say that the gun

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 1>buyback program did anything. And here's the part that they

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:06.320
<v Speaker 1>really don't tell you is that, in fact, gun ownership

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 1>currently in Australia when it's at its lowest violent crime

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>rate in I don't know, fifty years or something, and

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 1>probably since they were keeping records of it, and Australia

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 1>is very very safe. So good job Australians. Uh, the

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 1>ownership of guns is actually greater than it was when

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 1>they did the buyback program. So they've even got more

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 1>guns in circulation now in private hands. They did then

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.640
<v Speaker 1>because of some changes in the laws, and people actually

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>got firearms. And so it can't be that less guns

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 1>equals less crime because there are more guns now and

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 1>less crime. And it can be the less guns equal

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:43.720
<v Speaker 1>less crime because the crime rate went down at about

0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the same what you would with same trend that you

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:48.760
<v Speaker 1>would expect even if they didn't do a buy back program.

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It was already happening. So there's nothing to point to

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.359
<v Speaker 1>here and say, oh yeah. And and also note that

0:55:55.719 --> 0:56:01.280
<v Speaker 1>there's some European countries Belgium, France, uh all in Germany

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that have very restrictive gun laws. Actually Belgium doesn't really

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>have very restrictive, but let's let's consider that an outlier.

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 1>The Netherlands. Germany friends very restrictive gun laws, and they've

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 1>still had mass shootings. Nonetheles and I haven't gotten into

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the part of this where we talk about how in

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the US you've got not a couple of million guns,

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:23.520
<v Speaker 1>three million plus guns. And I've even gotten into discussion

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 1>about the Second Amendment and its role in our civic

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 1>life and in our founding and as part of our

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>culture and our political heritage and the natural law reasons

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.320
<v Speaker 1>for protection of the south as well as a protection

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:41.040
<v Speaker 1>against tyranny. The Australia model could never work here, and

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it didn't even work the way they say it did

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 1>in Australia. That's what you need to know about that.

0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back, we'll team. I've got some very

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 1>significant legal cases to talk to you about. I mean,

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the kind of stuff that affects your community wherever you

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>are across the country, certainly affects national level of politics, um,

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and so matters to all of us. But I am

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>not a lawyer, and I do not play one on radio.

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>But I do know a lot of stuff about some things,

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>including reading uh Supreme Court cases and knowing about how

0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>all the ins and outs goes. You know, there was

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a time when you could actually become a lawyer, true story,

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 1>without going to law school. If you pass the bar exam.

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Many states allowed you. Uh yeah, many states would allow

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>you to practice law in that state without having to

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 1>go to law school. But now law schools like a cartel,

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a three year, hundred and eighty thousand dollar plus cartel,

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and you have to just accept it. I did not.

0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should have, but I didn't. But Before I

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 1>get to that, Brian Ohio wants to speak about the

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Australian model for a second. Brian, go ahead, Hey, but

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 1>first of all, that last guy clip you had on

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that was probably one of the most sexist things they

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 1>ever heard in the first place. In the way stream

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>it isn't that crazy by the guys on CNN, he's

0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 1>like career Mr Law Enforced and Scott He's like, he's like, yeah,

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:03.320
<v Speaker 1>women were skirts, they can't carry uns. Like wow, Yeah,

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of very flattering ladies. You know,

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 1>we're flattering clothing and they are packing and you would

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 1>know a moment about it. So um, I had, by

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the way, I had a buddy who was who was

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a world class firearms expert who always told me that

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 1>he was of all the different ways to draw, he

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was faster out of any time that he was faster

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 1>out of a Fannie Pack holster than anything else. Well yeah,

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>well any more of these days, if you see somebody

0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:36.600
<v Speaker 1>wearing a Fannie Pack, you know they're carrying. So let's

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 1>just the way it is, uh, because you know, or

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're just like retro and it's you know, they

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:44.320
<v Speaker 1>want to go with more of an eighties vibe. But

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you know who knows? Yeah right, Uh, Well, onto Australia

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>real quick. Like you know, there's three points you're Australia.

0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>One is its population. The other one is its immigration

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>population of twenty million instead of the US which has

0:58:57.480 --> 0:59:00.240
<v Speaker 1>three million. That's another I wanted to get there. Your

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.160
<v Speaker 1>right to remind me of it. Yeah, yeah, well if

0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you look at it that right now. I did this

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the numbers the other day in a conversation like this,

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and the population of the US is one thousand, three

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred fifty greater than Australia. So if you assume that

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>mental health illness is linear, that means the US is

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 1>one thousand, three hundred fifty more likely to have an issue.

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Now you add in our various degregation of the family,

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh you're looking at other electronics influences, Hollywood influences, and

0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 1>so forth. I would bet this more of like worth

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:40.560
<v Speaker 1>three thousand percent more likely to have a violent incident. Uh,

0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 1>just regarding population. Um. Also, they have a very strict

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>immigration policy. They don't allow people in from countries that

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:52.640
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of violence in the country without just

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 1>completely uh complete immigration check. Uh. They're very strict on

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>their immigration. Yeah, and Brian, can I just add into this.

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything everything you're saying is is correct. I

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:06.880
<v Speaker 1>just want to add in that. Can you imagine if

1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:08.840
<v Speaker 1>for some let's just say and Trump's not gonna do this,

1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:10.280
<v Speaker 1>and the Congress is not gonna do this, but let's

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.680
<v Speaker 1>just say they said, you know what, Yeah, we've just

1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:16.440
<v Speaker 1>decided that we are elected representatives are going to gut

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment and pass a band on all semi

1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 1>automatic firearms in the United States, which people have been

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:27.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Right, Rubio got booed when he said that

1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that was impossible or unlikely or whatever at the CNN

1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:33.920
<v Speaker 1>town hall. If they did that, all they would do

1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:39.560
<v Speaker 1>is make tens of millions of Americans criminals by FIAT. Uh.

1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Never mind the whole Second Amendment violation, because people just

1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:44.360
<v Speaker 1>aren't going to give up their guns. And then what

1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:46.680
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do? I mean, I've talked about this

1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in californiaan not California. In Connecticut alone, there are I

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:53.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's around a hundred thousand people that they think

1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:57.520
<v Speaker 1>have what are now banned semi automatic rifles and state

1:00:57.680 --> 1:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>in Connecticut. But you know, they're not like going in

1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:02.400
<v Speaker 1>kicking indoors and going after them because one that on

1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:04.439
<v Speaker 1>the resources and too they realized none of those people

1:01:04.440 --> 1:01:08.280
<v Speaker 1>are actually a threat exactly. And you know the other

1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:11.480
<v Speaker 1>other side of the coin is just because somebody suffers

1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:15.280
<v Speaker 1>from hopophobia, which is the fear of guns. Uh you

1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:18.000
<v Speaker 1>know that is two in itself is a mental amalfillments

1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:20.400
<v Speaker 1>that needs to have therapy in order to have a

1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:24.320
<v Speaker 1>complete and healthy life. Yeah, so you look, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Australia is not gonna work here. Thank you for calling in,

1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Brian from Ohio, going to talk to you. Australia thing,

1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:32.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just they throw that in there because they you know,

1:01:32.760 --> 1:01:34.560
<v Speaker 1>they want to say, well we do this another countryuis

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<v Speaker 1>and no sorry, fun fact that Australia. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>got more a greater inflow of millionaires immigrated to Australia

1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:45.360
<v Speaker 1>than any other country in the world last year. I

1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:47.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's I think that's true. I think the greatest

1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:51.240
<v Speaker 1>number left France. They now have a very high millionaire's tax.

1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:52.960
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like people don't like it when the government

1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:56.040
<v Speaker 1>takes too much of their money. Um or they just

1:01:56.280 --> 1:02:02.320
<v Speaker 1>also like really like kangaroos and great barrier reef um

1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to get to Australia one day. Alright, So

1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:06.480
<v Speaker 1>into these big policy law things that I want to

1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:10.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to about. Two of them DACCA and public sector unions.

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<v Speaker 1>Both big news on both of these today, and i'll

1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:15.160
<v Speaker 1>cover them in a we'll do kind of a twofer here,

1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:21.560
<v Speaker 1>hit them both too. Two birds, one segment of legal analysis.

1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:26.800
<v Speaker 1>So the first one is the Supreme Court and they're saying, oh, look,

1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the Spring Court. The Supreme Court has refused to hear

1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration challenge on DOCCA. All this means and

1:02:33.480 --> 1:02:36.840
<v Speaker 1>people are running with this and Lebrons is that's a

1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:40.560
<v Speaker 1>big deal. All this means is that the actual process

1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that's in place which would mandate that this now go

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<v Speaker 1>up to the Ninth Circuit, which is the Ninth the superliberal,

1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:53.640
<v Speaker 1>left wing circuit that gives all the terrible decisions. So

1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:55.960
<v Speaker 1>we know how this is gonna go, right, We know

1:02:56.160 --> 1:02:58.320
<v Speaker 1>some judge and California is gonna say DACCA is a

1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:02.920
<v Speaker 1>constitutional right. The Founding Father sat around and all that

1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:06.600
<v Speaker 1>cared about was DACA. That's what the fight against the

1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:10.960
<v Speaker 1>British was started on. The Brits were unwilling to adhere

1:03:10.960 --> 1:03:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to DACA principles anyway, Um, they're gonna completely make up

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<v Speaker 1>some crap and then it will go to the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I think it will be reversed. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration will be correct. But the problem in

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<v Speaker 1>the short term is that one we know what the

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<v Speaker 1>Ninth Circuit is gonna do, right, that's a given. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no question that they're gonna be in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of It doesn't matter what iteration or what what specific

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<v Speaker 1>judge you're gonna get out there, they're gonna say, yea DACA.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the meantime, you had a circuit court I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a just a federal john, not an appeals court judge,

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<v Speaker 1>but if a federal judge who had already yeah, circuit

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<v Speaker 1>court judge, um, who had already decided that the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration does not have in its discretion the right to

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<v Speaker 1>undo a position of discretion taken by the Obama administration. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So just just think about this for a second. If

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<v Speaker 1>it is you know up to uh, you know, if you,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, are the landlord of a property, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to put this in terms that we can all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Ye, I've had good landlords, I've had many

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<v Speaker 1>more bad landlords. Unfortunate man landlords, especially in New York

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<v Speaker 1>or brutal. But if you were a landlord for property

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<v Speaker 1>and you had an agreement with the tenant that you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to let them, um, you know, pay a

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<v Speaker 1>a tem percent reduction in the market rate because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know, you feel you feel bad further

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<v Speaker 1>in ethel or something, who knows. But if if you

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<v Speaker 1>were getting that reduction and then somebody else came along

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<v Speaker 1>and bought the property and they were a lawful owner

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and they said, you know what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna honor that previous agreement anymore. I'm the new owner.

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<v Speaker 1>It's now up to me. It's up to my discretion.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that would be a pretty straightforward thing, right

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<v Speaker 1>the new owner says no. Or if the old owner

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<v Speaker 1>let you smoke in the house and now the new

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<v Speaker 1>owner says, no smoking in the house. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people will be able to win a

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<v Speaker 1>court case like well the old owner said that I could, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's not how it works. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>the current occupant of the White House says one thing

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<v Speaker 1>about DOCCA, and a circuit court judge was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Obama administration said something else, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>what the Obama administration said. So I'm gonna take away

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration's ability to fully execute the their Trump's authority,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically as commander in chief and as as the president.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take away his authority on this issue because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't like it. It's a disgrace. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean legally that they're gonna lose. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>because the way our courts have been stacked in certain

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the country with left it to just rewrite

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<v Speaker 1>the laws they see fit. You're you have this already

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<v Speaker 1>Circuit Court judge who said, yep, Trump can't undo what

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<v Speaker 1>Obama did, even though it's Trump's right and prerogative to

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<v Speaker 1>undo it if he wants to. And Supreme Court didn't

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<v Speaker 1>step ahead of the Ninth Circuit. So it's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the Ninth Circuit. How probably happens to

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<v Speaker 1>spraining is gonna be delayed. In the meantime, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've stopped the Trump administration um from winding down the

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<v Speaker 1>Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. This look, this is

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag resistance at work here, my friends. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that is that's the one. We got one down, we

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<v Speaker 1>got one more to go. Um and we get into

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<v Speaker 1>this this situation about public sector unions and this, I

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<v Speaker 1>know this sounds a little you're not super excited to

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<v Speaker 1>hear me talk about public section unions. I understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. I I think that it's easy to view

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<v Speaker 1>some of these cases about organizing and unions and everything

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, what's really the big deal? But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal. This is a big deal. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you why until after the breaks. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to stay with me, and then I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that is that that is the the deal that

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<v Speaker 1>we have on the table right now, be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>So public sector unions are possibly going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a tight spot here or a different spot when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to their their fees, um when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the money that they collect. Because here's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got a case the Supreme Court just heard

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<v Speaker 1>and it is Janice the f S A F S

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<v Speaker 1>C M E. And here's what's going on. Uh, some

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<v Speaker 1>of these public sector unions they force you to pay

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<v Speaker 1>membership dues even if you don't want to um it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a large it's a large part of what

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<v Speaker 1>funds them. And because of some previous Supreme Court decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been okay up to this point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the here's the issue. Mark Jannis, hence Janice

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<v Speaker 1>fee Offs asked me, Uh, Mark Jannis says, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do this. I don't want money

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<v Speaker 1>going towards I don't want my money going toward a

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<v Speaker 1>public sector union that is going to be advocating against

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<v Speaker 1>what I want. And here's here's where this really comes

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<v Speaker 1>into play. A public sector union is different than a

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<v Speaker 1>private sector union because public sector unions are inherently, inherently

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<v Speaker 1>political in their actions. This is not like a private

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<v Speaker 1>sector union where if you get a bunch of guys

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<v Speaker 1>who all get together and you're gonna be demanding certain

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<v Speaker 1>wages for carpenters or welders or you know, you name it, plumbers. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then do they create prevailing wage and that affects state

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<v Speaker 1>and local law and so you benefit from that. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>people can argue whether that's fair either that you can

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<v Speaker 1>be forced together this right to work states now and

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<v Speaker 1>this is a whole other, very complicated ball wax, but

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<v Speaker 1>with public sector unions, the only payer is the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where they get their money, and their actions there

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<v Speaker 1>for their their efforts are effectively government lobbying because they

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to get more money for the government and

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to change government policy. So there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>you have a public sector union, whether it's teachers or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, municipal employees, whatever it may be,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way you have a public sector union that

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<v Speaker 1>is not inherently engaged in political activity, not just economic

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<v Speaker 1>activity or economic lobbying, because they're going to the government.

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<v Speaker 1>They are they they are the government right there involved

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<v Speaker 1>in government activity. So it seems pretty straightforward. People get

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<v Speaker 1>very upset about this and they make it much more

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<v Speaker 1>complicated than it should otherwise be. And here's why private

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<v Speaker 1>private unions are. Private sector unions are way down in

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<v Speaker 1>membership now. UM and there's a lot of right to

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<v Speaker 1>work states that have popped up, and there's any number

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<v Speaker 1>of UM. Well, you point to some of the large unions,

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that they're losing members um and and the

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<v Speaker 1>unions don't have the power they used to. UH. Public

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<v Speaker 1>sector unions have actually gotten to be a much bigger

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<v Speaker 1>part of the union pie and as you may guess,

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<v Speaker 1>they are financially pretty substantial when it comes to donations

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<v Speaker 1>and political elections. In the last cycle, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>said close to a hundred million. I overstated a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more like sixty three million. But that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money. Sixty three million dollars into lot cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three million dollars alone, and the number has been

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<v Speaker 1>ramping up to I see this. It was sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>and then the election before that, it was fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>before that, forty five before that before that, nineteen before that, seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, every two years you're seeing jump, jump, jump,

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<v Speaker 1>big jumps in these public sector unions and the money

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<v Speaker 1>that they're giving for these different election cycles. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the other part of this that really matters now, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the free speech part of it or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's it's going down on free speech grounds. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I think the problem is, because you are taking

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<v Speaker 1>money from somebody and forcing them to subsidize what is

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<v Speaker 1>inherently a a form of compulsory first timement activity. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying, I'm gonna take your money and give it

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<v Speaker 1>to this group that wants more government, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>is engaged in government big government lobbying activities, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that. But the part of this that gets

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<v Speaker 1>the left so upset and the reason why they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I mean, almost as many people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to die as a result of this change that

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Supreme Court is going to visit upon

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<v Speaker 1>public sector unions. Almost as many millions will die as

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<v Speaker 1>died from the Republican tax cut, which I know left

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<v Speaker 1>left mad Max like devastation in many parts of this country. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry about that, guys. I know that tax cut, that

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<v Speaker 1>that thousand dollar bonus you may have gotten from your company.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. That's just it's the reason why all

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<v Speaker 1>the houses around you have burned down and then and

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<v Speaker 1>there's now just you know, flame tornadoes everywhere, and mad

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<v Speaker 1>Max Like I said, Ah, but they public sector unions,

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<v Speaker 1>they give their money to Democrats. Ah, now we know

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<v Speaker 1>why the media cares so much. This is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>source of big money for Democrat candidates. In fact of

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<v Speaker 1>public sector unions donations and the last political cycle went

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<v Speaker 1>to Democrat candidates. So that's sixty million dollars in cash

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<v Speaker 1>that they're getting from people who are basically unfire able

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<v Speaker 1>and work for the government. And you see this self

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<v Speaker 1>licking ice cream cone of government employees who are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do everything they can do. Elect representatives who will

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the government employees get the most money and

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<v Speaker 1>the most benefits they possibly can, and that means Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how the part, this is how Democrats became

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<v Speaker 1>the party of the state, and the state became full

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<v Speaker 1>of statists, as in, people who work for the government

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<v Speaker 1>tend to be not everybody, but tend to be pro government, right,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that government solved problems, then the government does good things.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially at the federal level, you've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this, a lot of that sentiment going on. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat Party is clearly the party that is most

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with the expansion of the state, the expansion of

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<v Speaker 1>the ranks of bureaucrats and government employees as much as

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<v Speaker 1>it possibly can, because it has become an important, uh

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<v Speaker 1>an important way of getting support for Democrat politicians. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is now a source of considerable power, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court isn't going to eliminate it or eradicate it,

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<v Speaker 1>but may put quite a dent in it because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are gonna say no, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. I don't want to do that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the folks who work for the government, who aren't Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>who aren't statuss will have a little more say in

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<v Speaker 1>their affairs. Maybe we'll see that the donation numbers will

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<v Speaker 1>change too. And McCarthy's joinings in a few minutes here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the Democrat memo short version, Adam Schiff

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<v Speaker 1>is a punk and he's not telling the truth. We

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<v Speaker 1>have more. Welcome to our three of the Buck Sexton Show. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. Great to have you here. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got Anie McCarthy. We'll be with us in just a

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<v Speaker 1>few more. Went to go into a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive on the Democrat fis memo. What he saw there?

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<v Speaker 1>What I saw there? Well, we'll have an exchange on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but first lighten it up for a few minutes. Just

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<v Speaker 1>get into a bit of a buck slap situation here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna come up with a cooler you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should do like a montage of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the old Kung Fu movies where all that's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the different I didn't do a very good job,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about, right we should do

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, really lean into the bucks lap, because

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<v Speaker 1>right now a solo slap is not enough. It needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be more than just a solitary solitary slab um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had two things. These don't really go together

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<v Speaker 1>other than just giving a buck slap to the media.

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<v Speaker 1>The first is you will recall that guy, Michael Wolfe,

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote the book Fire and Fury, which my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>part of that whole story, by the way, was that

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<v Speaker 1>Fire and Fury, a book about the Second World War

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<v Speaker 1>and an aerial campaign. I think it was the bombing

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<v Speaker 1>of Berlin, but I forget, but you know, aerial combat

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<v Speaker 1>in the Second World War that was published like many

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, went to the top of the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times bestseller list because of Fire and Fury. The other book, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Amazon effect, but this guy wrote Fire and Fury,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Wolfe, and he had an interview recently where he

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<v Speaker 1>pulled one of the great media things that you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>people do, which is when you get a question that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like, just do the whole Well, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't what was that is that? Like you got

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to ask me. No, it's all fuzzy, Roy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fuzzy in me. He doesn't sound like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to do that voice. Go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>play it. You see during a TV interview just last

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<v Speaker 1>month that you are absolutely sure that Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>currently having an affair while president behind the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the First Lady, and I repeat, you said you were

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<v Speaker 1>held Yeah, I can't. Last week, however, you beg flipped instead.

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<v Speaker 1>I quote, I do not know if the president is

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<v Speaker 1>having an affair? Do you over the president and the

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<v Speaker 1>First Lady? An apology? Mr Wolf? I can't hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't hear you. Hello. Last month, you said you

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<v Speaker 1>were absolutely sure that the president was having an affair.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting I'm not getting anything. I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not hearing him anymore. I'm not getting anything now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not getting you know, we were hearing each other well

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<v Speaker 1>just before. I'm not hearing me, Mr Wolf. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>do you hear I'm not now. I'm just I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>hearing anything. Wolf was hearing me before hearing me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not hearing anything. It looks all right. Can we stop

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<v Speaker 1>this for a second because this is let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something, he's hearing him. You know how I know.

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps waiting from stop saying, excuse me, slimy, shifty,

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<v Speaker 1>grotesque character named Michael Wolfe, can you answer the question please?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not He waits till he stops each time. If

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't hear him, he would just be sitting you, Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I got no thing, and there'd be cross dok, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing. I'm sorry, I can't you know, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me a pile of human refuse. You made unsubstantiated

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<v Speaker 1>and grotesque allegations against the president. Could you please tell

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<v Speaker 1>us if you owe him a retraction and apology. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I can't. I don't know. I can't hear um.

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<v Speaker 1>If he couldn't hear, folks, and I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>it for you. If if Michael wolf couldn't hear guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have waited until the question ended each time

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<v Speaker 1>to say I can't hear you notice, And there are

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times there's a little cross talk, but

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<v Speaker 1>he kept waiting. You know. This would be this would

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<v Speaker 1>be like me walking around saying I'm gonna hold my breath.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding my breath. I'm holding it right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait, but Buck, you're talking. How can you

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<v Speaker 1>be holding your breath? Shut up? I'm holding my breath

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<v Speaker 1>so that he gets a buck slap for that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, John slap him, Yes, exactly. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>some guy who looks like the mean fraternity brother from

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<v Speaker 1>an eighties movie. Uh, and that looks like that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from somebody who looks like the nice fraternity brother from

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<v Speaker 1>an eighties movie, namely me, it's some guy named Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander at the Today Show asked Ivanka the following question,

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<v Speaker 1>do you believe your father's accusers? I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty inappropriate question to ask a daughter if she believes

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<v Speaker 1>um the accusers of her father when he's affirmatively stated

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<v Speaker 1>that there's no truth to it. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a question you would ask many other daughters. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>my father. I know my father, so I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have that right as a daughter, um, to believe my father.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's actually a buck slap courtesy of Ivanka too,

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<v Speaker 1>the punk Peter Alexander, Papa, Ivanka just buck slapped him.

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<v Speaker 1>She bucks slapped him. It was amazing because, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>completely true. Show me where some NBC glorified frat boy

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<v Speaker 1>is asking Chelsea Clinton if her dad's a rapist on

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<v Speaker 1>on TV while he's president or at any time. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to know, Hey, Chelsea Clinton, sit down, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me for a second. Is your dad a rapist?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a question she's ever been asking. That would No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a fair question to ask her, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not a question. That's not a question

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<v Speaker 1>that should be posed to anybody in that situation. But

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<v Speaker 1>they'll pose it to Avanca because at NBC they are

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<v Speaker 1>in the tank with the never Trump, anti Trump hashtag resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>So Buck slaps a plenty there, and we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>Anny McCarthy joining in just a moment. Welcome back, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we are our three of the Buck Sexton Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been promising you that we would have the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only the McCarthy to weigh in on the

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<v Speaker 1>memo that dropped over the weekend. It it dropped with

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a of a whimper. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>it did not exactly have the splash of the Republican memo.

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<v Speaker 1>But we should get into why and whether that is

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<v Speaker 1>in fact even a fair assessment of it. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Andy with us now. He is a former Assistant U

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<v Speaker 1>S Attorney for the Southern District of New York. He

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<v Speaker 1>is also a senior writer at National Review and at

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<v Speaker 1>the National View Institute. Andy, thanks so much for joining Buck.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my pleasure. All right, Den memo, what were your thoughts? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think you're right that it landed with

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<v Speaker 1>a whimper, although you know, to be fair to uh

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<v Speaker 1>the the it was a Saturday, so we can start

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Well, yeah, it was a Saturday, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was also in the midst of this uh hubbub of

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting in Florida, which really hasn't died down, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's I think taken a lot of the oxygen up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think that UM for their own and

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<v Speaker 1>they have they have a motive to kind of soft

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<v Speaker 1>peddle this because, uh, despite everything that Representative shift is

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<v Speaker 1>out there saying. His memo does concede the two main

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<v Speaker 1>allegations in the majority memo that's known as the New

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<v Speaker 1>Neez Memo. Namely, they did use the Steel dossier, and secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't disclose to the court that the Steel dossier

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<v Speaker 1>was a Hillary Clinton campaign product. So you know how

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<v Speaker 1>much they want to have all the back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>when those two major allegations have actually been confirmed. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's a lot of people who who aren't loving

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<v Speaker 1>that end of the argument. And the one part of

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<v Speaker 1>it that really jumped out to me was that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a place at which they said the Steel dossier

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm paraphrasing here, but it was the Steel dossier

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<v Speaker 1>was later verified. I buy blacked outline, blocked outline, etcetera,

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<v Speaker 1>etcetera about you know, twenty blacked outlines in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that would be the thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>really need to see and to know. Yeah, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you about that for a few reasons. Number one, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the obvious, which which is that, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if there really was probable cause, then we should see

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<v Speaker 1>what the basis of it was. And obviously they should

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<v Speaker 1>preserve whatever they can of of methods and sources and

1:23:32.520 --> 1:23:35.519
<v Speaker 1>sensitive intelligence secrets. And I understand they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>blow things that we know about Russia. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, at the same time, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>now enough of a thing where it certainly seems that

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<v Speaker 1>the first memo, the first plies of warrant at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least was largely dependent on the dossier. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>you would think that if there's better justification for it

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<v Speaker 1>out there, that would be a good thing to dough

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess the second thing, Buck is that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really think I'm ready to take Adam Schiff's word

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<v Speaker 1>that what he thinks is corroboration is what would satisfy

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<v Speaker 1>me as corroboration, because he has an idea about corroboration

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<v Speaker 1>based on what else is in his memo that's pretty skewed. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd like to see it for myself and make

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<v Speaker 1>up my own mind about whether it really corroborates the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that that page was an agent of a foreign power.

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<v Speaker 1>And in one section, and everyone we're talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat response to the FISA abuse memo. This was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that had been there's some back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>over it in recent weeks, Um and Andy, Before I

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<v Speaker 1>actually get in the specifics of this one subsection, do

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<v Speaker 1>we know where the blackdown lines in this? Who's to

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<v Speaker 1>blame for them so to speak? Or who is the

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<v Speaker 1>final say? I mean, essentially, why were some of the

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<v Speaker 1>lines about sources blacked out? Was it Republicans demanding them

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<v Speaker 1>because I've seen a lot of Democrats saying that or

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<v Speaker 1>is it the FBI or do we not know? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we know, but that the Republican members of the Committee

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<v Speaker 1>voted to release shifts memo from the from the start.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted it out there. Um, so I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Republicans on the committee who are doing this. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there was a lot of negotiation between as I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that the FBI on behalf of the intelligence community,

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<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department, the White House, and Shift and the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats on the Committee trying to uh come to accommodations

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<v Speaker 1>that would allow Shift to make the arguments that he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make without exposing methods and sources of intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>and important intelligence secrets. And I think, you know, members

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress, can they really do have immunity under the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution and they could go up on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor of the House and say whatever is in the redaction.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't do that because if it would harm the country,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it would be very politically damaging for them to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. So I think this is a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>them accommodating or or deferring to the judgment of the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI in particular that exposing what's blacked out would be

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<v Speaker 1>bad for the country. All right, now, this part of

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<v Speaker 1>the the memo says the following, FB this is under

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<v Speaker 1>FBI's counterintelligence investigation. In its October fives application and subsequent renewals,

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<v Speaker 1>d o J accurately informed the FBI. UH, the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>initiated its counter intelligence investigation on julyeen after receiving information,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's blocked out. George Papadopoulis revealed blocked out

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<v Speaker 1>that individuals linked to Russia who took interest in Papadopolis

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<v Speaker 1>as a Trump campaign foreign policy advisor informed him in

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<v Speaker 1>late April that Russia it's blocked out. Okay, that's you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting it out there just because what do you

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<v Speaker 1>make of this? It seems to me like this it

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<v Speaker 1>reads like what we already knew about Papadopolis based on

1:27:10.160 --> 1:27:12.439
<v Speaker 1>that news report that's out there, that he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff to some people. But is this the best

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<v Speaker 1>they can do on Papadopolis Because to me, the the

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<v Speaker 1>inclusion of this guy in here makes the whole case

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<v Speaker 1>seem kind of flimsy. Yeah, well, I think the case

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<v Speaker 1>is flimsy, But let me um let me just and Buck,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably have even more experience with this than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But um let me say what I think is happening

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<v Speaker 1>here in good faith, and that is you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember years ago in the blind Shake case, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get in some information about what the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA was doing in Afghanistan, including the fact that we

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<v Speaker 1>used Pakistan as kind of the cutout. And even though

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<v Speaker 1>there had been books written about that, uh and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a well known fact, I was not able are

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to disclose it in formally as a representative of

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<v Speaker 1>the government because the the intelligence community in our government

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<v Speaker 1>never acknowledges who gives us information. So I think what's

1:28:14.640 --> 1:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>going on there is that even though everybody knows the

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<v Speaker 1>Australians gave us that information and everybody knows what the

1:28:22.439 --> 1:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>information was, because it's all right, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the government pretending something is still not known, that that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that that is considered common knowledge, which they which

1:28:31.400 --> 1:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>they do everybody for you, those of you you are listening.

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<v Speaker 1>The government will still say things are classified that are

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<v Speaker 1>literally what you would see if you googled it, but

1:28:38.560 --> 1:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>they still pretend that right, And I think that's done

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<v Speaker 1>for good reason. That's done so that we can look

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan or Australia or anyone else in the eye and say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you cooperate with us, we will always protect you,

1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and we will always keep it confidential, no matter who

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<v Speaker 1>knows it. All right, So, what is the single biggest

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<v Speaker 1>part of the memo Andy that that did or this

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<v Speaker 1>thing the biggest question that remains un answered for you

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. I think there are two questions. But

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<v Speaker 1>the first is, um, was there any other information besides

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<v Speaker 1>the Steel dossier, which was completely uncorroborated that made out

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<v Speaker 1>the very demanding standard under five of when you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get a warrant on an American citizen that he

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<v Speaker 1>was acting as an active knowing agent of a foreign

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<v Speaker 1>power whose planned destined activities violated federal criminal law. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to know if there's anything else, because it sure

1:29:36.520 --> 1:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>looks like the Steel DOSSI was the only thing they

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<v Speaker 1>had along those lines. And secondly, whenever the government gets

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<v Speaker 1>an eavesdropping warrant, whether it's in FISA National security stuff

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<v Speaker 1>or Title three criminal stuff, you always have to demonstrate

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<v Speaker 1>to the court that alternative uh investigative techniques, that is,

1:30:00.600 --> 1:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>tactics other than surveillance, which is very intrusive. Um could

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<v Speaker 1>not work to get you the information that you need.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I think it's important, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that really hasn't been addressed to this point, is

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<v Speaker 1>that we now know that Paige had a relationship with

1:30:19.240 --> 1:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the FBI that went back to two thousand thirteen. He

1:30:22.320 --> 1:30:25.519
<v Speaker 1>was an informant for them in a case against Russian spies.

1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>They used his information in a complaint, and they interviewed

1:30:29.960 --> 1:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>him again as late as March of So he's someone

1:30:34.520 --> 1:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>who's been very available to them, and that there's no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to believe, at least based on what we know publicly,

1:30:40.720 --> 1:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that he's ever been untruthful with them as a as

1:30:44.080 --> 1:30:47.439
<v Speaker 1>an informant. So the question I'd have is why get

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<v Speaker 1>a surveillance warrant on him when if you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know whether he met with these two top Russian guys

1:30:53.080 --> 1:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>or not, you could bring him in an interview him

1:30:54.720 --> 1:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and ask them. Yeah, the whole carter page component of

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<v Speaker 1>this Andy strike me as as such a such a stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>the notion that this guy was at the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>some international conspiracy and that therefore there had to be

1:31:08.680 --> 1:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>as you said, very intrusive and very high level surveillance

1:31:11.880 --> 1:31:15.519
<v Speaker 1>techniques used against him. It seems much more likely me

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<v Speaker 1>at this point that some of the people who understand

1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>how this process works, and as you have pointed out,

1:31:19.960 --> 1:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>once you get somebody's calms and their communications, their previous

1:31:23.680 --> 1:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>stored stuff, stored email, stored text messanges are fair game too.

1:31:27.560 --> 1:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>They wanted to do some poking around Carter Page had

1:31:30.120 --> 1:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>these previous fuzzy, weird Russia contacts, and it looks like

1:31:33.680 --> 1:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it looks like a pretext. Andy. I know you

1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>can't say it was because we don't know yet, but

1:31:38.200 --> 1:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>to me, it looks like it was done as a

1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>pretext for surveillance. Yeah, and Buck, and I want to

1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>be clear because I agree with that, um, but I

1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:51.519
<v Speaker 1>am not one of these people who says like I'm

1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>so like a fervently died in the world Trump person

1:31:54.640 --> 1:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that it would have been outrageous for the Obama administration

1:31:57.400 --> 1:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to conduct this investigation. To the contrary, I've said, if

1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>they had real evidence here of collusion of a corrupt

1:32:05.080 --> 1:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>nature between the campaign, the Trump campaign, and the Russians,

1:32:09.920 --> 1:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>then it would have been irresponsible not to investigate that.

1:32:13.320 --> 1:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>And if it turns out that there are other bases

1:32:16.200 --> 1:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>for Carter Page to have been thought to be an

1:32:19.400 --> 1:32:21.599
<v Speaker 1>agent of a foreign power, and they had real evidence

1:32:21.600 --> 1:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>of that. I'm all for it. I'm I'm like, you know, whatever,

1:32:24.400 --> 1:32:29.519
<v Speaker 1>whoever we need to surveil, we should all that too. Yeah. Yeah,

1:32:29.800 --> 1:32:34.559
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying that this I'm not one of

1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:36.519
<v Speaker 1>these people who was who was saying this was an

1:32:36.560 --> 1:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>illegitimate thing from the get go. I'm somebody who has

1:32:39.920 --> 1:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>reluctantly been dragged to the point of saying something really

1:32:43.080 --> 1:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>bad went on here. And this is after months of

1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>telling people. You know, look, the FBI and the Justice

1:32:48.960 --> 1:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Department don't do that kind of stuff. They don't go

1:32:51.479 --> 1:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to a court with uncorroborated hearsay from unidentified sources that

1:32:56.720 --> 1:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>comes from political sources. They go out and do independ

1:33:00.000 --> 1:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>an investigation, and when they got in the fives the court,

1:33:02.800 --> 1:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>they make sure that what they've given the court is

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<v Speaker 1>vetted and they make every proper disclosure they can make,

1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:11.679
<v Speaker 1>because that's the Justice Department. I know, and I've told

1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:14.639
<v Speaker 1>people for months that what it looks like happened here

1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>couldn't happen here. All right, We'll have to see, We'll

1:33:18.920 --> 1:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on it, Andy McCarthy. Everybody read his

1:33:21.640 --> 1:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>latest at National Review dot com. They actually just updated

1:33:25.080 --> 1:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the site. Looks great. Go check it out. Also follow

1:33:27.080 --> 1:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Andy on Twitter. Mr riccarty. Always appreciate you making the time, sir,

1:33:30.920 --> 1:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for hanging out with us. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Buck. See, we're gonna roll into a quick

1:33:36.680 --> 1:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>break here. When we come back, I'm going to have, oh,

1:33:40.200 --> 1:33:42.559
<v Speaker 1>some things to talk to you about. You're going to uh,

1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna want to hear them because we have some

1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>some audio of them talk about diversity that oh guess what,

1:33:51.000 --> 1:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it went off the rails that's coming up. Stay with me.

1:33:53.560 --> 1:33:55.719
<v Speaker 1>You can be irritated by it. You could be irritated

1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>by the fact that women have to be the one

1:33:57.320 --> 1:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>suggest Tait and lacktate. You could be irritated by a

1:33:59.439 --> 1:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of trip. But taking offense is a is a

1:34:06.840 --> 1:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>response that is rejection of reality. So men and women

1:34:13.320 --> 1:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>are different on height, they're different on muscle mass, they're

1:34:16.960 --> 1:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>different on where fact is deposited on our bodies. Right,

1:34:21.800 --> 1:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>our brains are also different. So there's some fine areas security.

1:34:31.720 --> 1:34:34.559
<v Speaker 1>This is this is what happens until they shut off

1:34:34.600 --> 1:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the violet. Can you hear, can can everybody here? So

1:34:39.320 --> 1:34:41.519
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, guys, this is at at at

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<v Speaker 1>Portland's State University, and it is a it was a forum,

1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a college form, and these things are great, a college

1:34:49.040 --> 1:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>form where you have people who are supposed to discuss

1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>ideological diversity, the diversity of ideas. And this may not

1:34:59.800 --> 1:35:01.599
<v Speaker 1>u come as a shock to you. There are people

1:35:02.080 --> 1:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>at Portland State University who do not want to hear

1:35:05.240 --> 1:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>about this, who have no interest whatsoever in hearing about things.

1:35:10.080 --> 1:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>And even to the point where a and you've got

1:35:14.080 --> 1:35:19.240
<v Speaker 1>a few different individuals joining together here. You had ex

1:35:19.280 --> 1:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Google engineer James Day Moore, um, he was part of

1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:28.320
<v Speaker 1>this panel. And you had a few other scholars, you know,

1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:32.559
<v Speaker 1>people that are from Portland State University. And you had

1:35:33.080 --> 1:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>evolutionary biologist Heather Heying there among others. So and Peter

1:35:40.760 --> 1:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Peter Brigoesian. Now you just heard some pretty straightforward stuff

1:35:45.760 --> 1:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>about how men and women are biologically physically different, different

1:35:49.960 --> 1:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in terms of muscle mass, different in terms of fat deposits,

1:35:52.600 --> 1:35:55.320
<v Speaker 1>different in terms of a whole bunch of things. And

1:35:55.840 --> 1:36:01.240
<v Speaker 1>people in attendance weren't just content to go. They actually

1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wish you could see the video, but

1:36:02.760 --> 1:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just playing the audio for you. They pulled the

1:36:05.680 --> 1:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>audio on the way out, like they pulled the plugs

1:36:08.240 --> 1:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>out of the speakers and throw a fit as they

1:36:10.880 --> 1:36:15.439
<v Speaker 1>were leaving, so that they forced they forced the panel

1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:18.720
<v Speaker 1>to come to a stop. And then what you had

1:36:18.760 --> 1:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>is these panelists who had to stand up and just

1:36:22.479 --> 1:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>do what acapella style, and they decided to just keep

1:36:25.040 --> 1:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>going with the rest of of their speech. But I

1:36:29.560 --> 1:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>don't want to stop it with just they pulled the plugs,

1:36:32.880 --> 1:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>literally pull the plug on the speech. Okay, remember men

1:36:35.880 --> 1:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and women are biologically different. That gets people upset. That's

1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a microaggression. You're not allowed to say that. Every

1:36:44.360 --> 1:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>single one of you, sitting, listening, standing, running, wherever you

1:36:47.360 --> 1:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>are across the country knows men and women are different.

1:36:50.920 --> 1:36:52.639
<v Speaker 1>You're not in your head like yeah, of course, Buck.

1:36:53.360 --> 1:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>That has now become a politically incorrect thing to say.

1:36:58.000 --> 1:36:59.599
<v Speaker 1>This has been going on for a few years now,

1:36:59.640 --> 1:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>but but it is now part of the leftist orthodoxy.

1:37:03.160 --> 1:37:06.479
<v Speaker 1>It is dogma on the left that you are simply

1:37:06.800 --> 1:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>fundamentally not allowed to claim that there are any differences

1:37:11.560 --> 1:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of any kind between men and women. Rooted in biology.

1:37:17.280 --> 1:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>How one makes that argument, don't this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of saying, you know, an apple is a banana.

1:37:24.880 --> 1:37:27.720
<v Speaker 1>To borrow from CNN, It's not, you know, I call

1:37:27.800 --> 1:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>this an apple. You call that an apple. No, no,

1:37:30.680 --> 1:37:33.559
<v Speaker 1>an apple is a banana. It is the It is

1:37:33.800 --> 1:37:38.639
<v Speaker 1>forceful falsehood, right. It is so wrong that the purpose

1:37:38.680 --> 1:37:43.599
<v Speaker 1>of it seems to be two force people to agree

1:37:43.720 --> 1:37:46.519
<v Speaker 1>in the wrongness of it as a as a form

1:37:46.560 --> 1:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of intellectual submission. But they they freaked out, and I

1:37:52.040 --> 1:37:53.519
<v Speaker 1>know it's a brain now. They had a few of them,

1:37:53.720 --> 1:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of you know, blue haired anarchists, and they

1:37:58.920 --> 1:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>they left, They pulled the all goodul the stuff, and

1:38:00.800 --> 1:38:04.120
<v Speaker 1>then they continue to throw a bit of a fit outside.

1:38:04.240 --> 1:38:05.800
<v Speaker 1>And I just want to share some of these are

1:38:05.800 --> 1:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the These are the folks that are the future of

1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>this country. This is the the campus elite, if you will,

1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>sharing their thoughts on a whole bunch of stuff. When

1:38:15.200 --> 1:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>it comes to diversity. Should not listen to fascism. I

1:38:27.439 --> 1:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>should not be tolerated in civil society. Nazis are not

1:38:30.800 --> 1:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>welcome in civil society. Alright, Well, we're gonna raise our voices.

1:38:40.000 --> 1:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>The conversation is going to go on, all right, let's

1:38:46.680 --> 1:38:52.959
<v Speaker 1>let that sort of behavior is unacceptable in civilized societies,

1:38:52.960 --> 1:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and if that person is a student, they should be

1:38:59.720 --> 1:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>given a warning, and if they do it again, they

1:39:01.960 --> 1:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>should be expelled from the university. Expelled from the university.

1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:10.840
<v Speaker 1>That's where this should be. Now, I would know that

1:39:10.880 --> 1:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not an overreach at all. That consequences for violating

1:39:16.760 --> 1:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>the central goal of a college campus should be something

1:39:20.880 --> 1:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that colleges embrace. And to anyone who say that's so harsh,

1:39:25.080 --> 1:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you can know they're they're creating a disturbance, They're just

1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:35.439
<v Speaker 1>they're at least destroying public property, and they are shutting

1:39:35.439 --> 1:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>down the right of others to speak. If you were

1:39:39.200 --> 1:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to hand in somebody else's term paper, you could get expelled, right,

1:39:42.360 --> 1:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>plagiarism get expelled. It's not a it's not a crime,

1:39:46.400 --> 1:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>but it's still a violation of academic ethics. What could

1:39:51.800 --> 1:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>be a more clear violation of the ethics of the

1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:59.599
<v Speaker 1>academy than trying to shut down a speech with people

1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:03.240
<v Speaker 1>who are trying to engage in important ideas of the

1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>time in a respectful way. That is the definition of

1:40:06.479 --> 1:40:10.519
<v Speaker 1>discourse and dialogue. But this is what we are up against.

1:40:10.600 --> 1:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Now this is where the left has taken much of

1:40:14.160 --> 1:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>this country. You heard that guy talking about how this

1:40:17.720 --> 1:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>is fascism, this is it's fascism. When you have college

1:40:22.840 --> 1:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>professors Heather Haying, Brett Weinstein, former Googler, James Daymore, and

1:40:29.240 --> 1:40:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Peter Rogosian speaking to an audience about what diversity really is,

1:40:37.240 --> 1:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that now has become fascism, It has become triggering, to

1:40:41.920 --> 1:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>borrow a term from the left. It triggers people, It

1:40:44.000 --> 1:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>forces their emotional outburst when somebody says that men and

1:40:48.920 --> 1:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>women are different xx chromosome x y chromosome. You know,

1:40:52.960 --> 1:40:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I've heard people saying recently that on guns, on guns,

1:40:57.840 --> 1:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>falsehood is excused, and that is true. If you were

1:41:04.680 --> 1:41:06.639
<v Speaker 1>on the left and you are anti gun, you can

1:41:06.680 --> 1:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>say things that are untrue, and it's okay, it's fine

1:41:11.360 --> 1:41:14.240
<v Speaker 1>as long as it serves the greater purpose. But in

1:41:14.280 --> 1:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>some ways it's even worse when you talk about gender

1:41:17.040 --> 1:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and gender identity issues, because it's not that falsehood is excused.

1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:23.519
<v Speaker 1>They're not saying, oh, it doesn't matter if you say

1:41:23.560 --> 1:41:27.519
<v Speaker 1>clip or magazine. Ban the Second Amendment right, which, by

1:41:27.520 --> 1:41:29.599
<v Speaker 1>the way, is the thing that I've seen and heard

1:41:29.600 --> 1:41:32.240
<v Speaker 1>people saying recently. It doesn't matter if you say Clipper magazine.

1:41:32.280 --> 1:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if you say auto or semi auto.

1:41:34.439 --> 1:41:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Ban all autos. But wait, autos are banned. Oh, you

1:41:37.720 --> 1:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>don't care about the children with the gender identity issues.

1:41:43.720 --> 1:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>What you see is that falsehood is not excused. Falsehood

1:41:49.000 --> 1:41:54.679
<v Speaker 1>is embraced. It's embraced. Yes, we are going to lie,

1:41:54.800 --> 1:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes we're going to tell you things that are not true.

1:41:57.200 --> 1:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>The movement rests on lies. The movement rests on the

1:42:03.240 --> 1:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>opposite of reality. And they just hope that the brainwashing

1:42:10.760 --> 1:42:14.519
<v Speaker 1>and the political mobilization of the forces of the academy

1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:16.879
<v Speaker 1>and the media and the Democrat Party and the American

1:42:17.040 --> 1:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>left will be enough. I we'll spend some time coming

1:42:21.920 --> 1:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>up in the weeks ahead. When I can. I'll just

1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:29.679
<v Speaker 1>go on some some buck digressions here about how central

1:42:30.400 --> 1:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>falsehood was to the Soviet system and to communism. And

1:42:35.600 --> 1:42:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that we're about to have communist country,

1:42:37.520 --> 1:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's just philosophically, it's important to understand that it

1:42:41.240 --> 1:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't It went from excuse making to the active embrace.

1:42:48.120 --> 1:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>In fact, the forced embraced embracing falsehood. At the end

1:42:52.240 --> 1:42:54.240
<v Speaker 1>of a rifle or with a rifle pointed. Actually that

1:42:54.320 --> 1:42:57.760
<v Speaker 1>was the Soviet Union. Yeah, you know, this is the

1:42:57.800 --> 1:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>quota for potatoes. We hit the potato quote. Uh no,

1:43:01.479 --> 1:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you didn't. Actually people are starving. Well, this is the

1:43:04.280 --> 1:43:07.240
<v Speaker 1>quota actually, and yes we did hit it, or else

1:43:07.280 --> 1:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be shot. Guess what A lot of

1:43:08.840 --> 1:43:14.280
<v Speaker 1>people say, Okay, all the potatoes we need. That's what's

1:43:14.320 --> 1:43:17.559
<v Speaker 1>going on ideologically on college campuses across the country. It's

1:43:17.600 --> 1:43:19.720
<v Speaker 1>also reflected in the media, and it is soon to

1:43:19.760 --> 1:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>be reflected in our laws. In fact, I think already

1:43:22.479 --> 1:43:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you can make the case that there are ways in

1:43:27.080 --> 1:43:31.519
<v Speaker 1>which the left mentality about gender identity has manifested itself

1:43:31.560 --> 1:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>in law. And while I can look at people screaming

1:43:35.080 --> 1:43:38.559
<v Speaker 1>fascist because a couple of social sciencests are saying men

1:43:38.560 --> 1:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and women are different, people who literally have PhDs in

1:43:42.160 --> 1:43:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the subject matter are trying to tell an audience that

1:43:45.840 --> 1:43:48.720
<v Speaker 1>men and women are different. And you have people screaming, disrupting,

1:43:48.720 --> 1:43:51.439
<v Speaker 1>acting like children. These are adults that are people in

1:43:51.479 --> 1:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>their late twenties from what I can see, and they're

1:43:55.040 --> 1:43:57.760
<v Speaker 1>upset by this. It bothers them. They don't want to

1:43:57.800 --> 1:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>be told this. They have embraced some alternate reality. And

1:44:02.840 --> 1:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not just on gender identity. Where this is the case,

1:44:05.040 --> 1:44:09.720
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. Once truth is a casualty, the casualty

1:44:09.800 --> 1:44:13.599
<v Speaker 1>numbers just rise. Once it doesn't matter anymore what's true

1:44:13.600 --> 1:44:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and what's false, then anything becomes possible and anything becomes permissible.

1:44:19.280 --> 1:44:20.720
<v Speaker 1>And this is one of the reason why the left

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<v Speaker 1>is so very, very dangerous. Um the momentum of progressivism

1:44:27.720 --> 1:44:31.839
<v Speaker 1>or left leftism in this country always points towards always

1:44:32.040 --> 1:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>results in tyranny. It can't help, but do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>sure we can make fun of some shrieking, blue haired

1:44:41.479 --> 1:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>pseudo hippie hipster types who don't think they should have

1:44:44.640 --> 1:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to hear any bad things, but understand the political ideology

1:44:48.200 --> 1:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>they represent is actually quite dangerous and does need to

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<v Speaker 1>be confronted on the battlefield of ideas. We're gonna get

1:44:54.160 --> 1:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>into some roll call coming up. Stay with me. I

1:44:56.040 --> 1:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>want to tell you about some fun ahead over the weekend.

1:44:58.200 --> 1:45:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I like to share with you some of my adventures,

1:45:00.880 --> 1:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to tell you the truth about it

1:45:02.439 --> 1:45:07.599
<v Speaker 1>as well. Because I thought I was pretty slick, pretty

1:45:07.640 --> 1:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>cool guy, you know, like I can make things happen.

1:45:13.520 --> 1:45:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I was planning it for some time. Miss Molly and

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<v Speaker 1>I we're gonna go to the Metropolitan Opera, which is very,

1:45:21.280 --> 1:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>very fancy. You know, it's a it's a fancy thing.

1:45:23.320 --> 1:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a once a year thing for me. You know.

1:45:24.760 --> 1:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I save up, I take the piggy bank, I break

1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the piggy bank. We go to the Metropolitan Opera and

1:45:31.160 --> 1:45:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I get to go check out one of the most

1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, revered cultural institutions of New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>For for some look, I I love it. Opera is enchanting.

1:45:42.920 --> 1:45:46.599
<v Speaker 1>It is pretty incredible. It is also very long for

1:45:46.600 --> 1:45:48.280
<v Speaker 1>those of you who have not been exposed to it.

1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever been, but sometimes it

1:45:50.960 --> 1:45:53.360
<v Speaker 1>can run in the neighborhood of three and a half

1:45:53.479 --> 1:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>hours ish, maybe four, which is a long time. I mean,

1:45:58.920 --> 1:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Brave Heart is three hours plus, but it flies by

1:46:01.360 --> 1:46:03.639
<v Speaker 1>in five minutes because it's the greatest movie of all time.

1:46:04.120 --> 1:46:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But opera, you gotta be into it, and you also

1:46:08.160 --> 1:46:09.800
<v Speaker 1>want to know what's going on because you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of people seeing in a different language. So

1:46:11.680 --> 1:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I make my plans with I'm making my plans with

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Molly. Two uh, to go to the opera, and

1:46:18.840 --> 1:46:22.439
<v Speaker 1>and she's all excited because I've told her she's cooler

1:46:22.479 --> 1:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>than I am and more in touch with pop culture.

1:46:24.120 --> 1:46:26.639
<v Speaker 1>But I've told her that that the opera we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see, La bo m is more or less the

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<v Speaker 1>basis for the broad with the hit Broadway musical rent Um,

1:46:35.320 --> 1:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>which is true, it's sort of loosely based on or

1:46:38.600 --> 1:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>loosely derived from. But and so we're talking, and we

1:46:42.080 --> 1:46:44.760
<v Speaker 1>had dinner beforehand, and we're all excited, and we're going,

1:46:44.920 --> 1:46:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm going over the characters from Labo M and and

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough when we sit down, we managed to get

1:46:52.080 --> 1:46:54.799
<v Speaker 1>we have great seats and the opera is just wherever

1:46:54.840 --> 1:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you are across the country should go to the opera

1:46:56.360 --> 1:46:58.559
<v Speaker 1>telling I'm telling you, don't knock it till you try.

1:46:58.600 --> 1:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>The operas is pretty cool. Let's saying go every weekend.

1:47:01.840 --> 1:47:03.760
<v Speaker 1>That can be a lot, but it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>real experience. And if you love music, I mean the

1:47:06.240 --> 1:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the pit, the orchestra that they have is philharmonic quality, right,

1:47:10.960 --> 1:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>so the orchestra is amazing, the music is incredible to

1:47:13.439 --> 1:47:16.240
<v Speaker 1>set the set design um and if you want, if

1:47:16.280 --> 1:47:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you're ever in New York City, you can actually go

1:47:18.600 --> 1:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and get like standing room tickets for a lot of

1:47:20.840 --> 1:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the operas, which, by the way, stay for half of

1:47:23.280 --> 1:47:24.720
<v Speaker 1>it and you'll be plenty happy. You'll have been there

1:47:24.800 --> 1:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>for two hours, so you know, stay for an hour

1:47:27.200 --> 1:47:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and a half. And if you get standing room only

1:47:28.720 --> 1:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the back, I think those tickets are twenty five or

1:47:31.360 --> 1:47:35.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty bucks. Yea, So it's it's it's doable, uh, in

1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:37.519
<v Speaker 1>a in a less expensive way instead of a few

1:47:37.560 --> 1:47:39.240
<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks, which is what it can run to go

1:47:39.360 --> 1:47:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to sit in a chair and actually sit for the

1:47:41.400 --> 1:47:43.360
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Anyway, So I'm there with Ms Molly, and

1:47:43.439 --> 1:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm pretty cool. I think this is a

1:47:46.040 --> 1:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a good date that I've set up. You know,

1:47:47.720 --> 1:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get some some buck points here, you know,

1:47:50.479 --> 1:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>for being a good guy, good boyfriend. And she's she's

1:47:54.000 --> 1:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>all excited. She looks very very pretty, you know, she's

1:47:56.080 --> 1:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>all dressed up. And I'm excited too. And we've been

1:47:58.920 --> 1:48:01.599
<v Speaker 1>talking about Labom and I know some of the difference

1:48:01.600 --> 1:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>in arias from Labo M And I'm all excited. That's

1:48:04.080 --> 1:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a very it's the most popular opera of all time.

1:48:06.640 --> 1:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>It's very accessible, shorter, and you know, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go see one, by the way, go see marriage a figure. Oh,

1:48:13.280 --> 1:48:16.240
<v Speaker 1>go see La bo m. Go see one of one

1:48:16.280 --> 1:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of the ten grades. You know, people love men and butterfly.

1:48:21.400 --> 1:48:23.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that one for me wasn't really getting

1:48:23.560 --> 1:48:26.479
<v Speaker 1>it done anyway. I think it's a lot that the

1:48:26.479 --> 1:48:29.280
<v Speaker 1>curtain goes up and all of a sudden, I'm like,

1:48:29.439 --> 1:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>this isn't eighteen thirties Paris. What's going on here? Like,

1:48:34.120 --> 1:48:38.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. There are tombs like out of ancient Egypt.

1:48:39.320 --> 1:48:42.160
<v Speaker 1>There dudes standing around with swords. There's like some kind

1:48:42.160 --> 1:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of high priest with a scepter. I'm like, whoa Limrae

1:48:45.760 --> 1:48:48.559
<v Speaker 1>district in Paris just got freaky, Like this is not

1:48:48.640 --> 1:48:50.840
<v Speaker 1>what I you know, I'm always looking at me like

1:48:51.400 --> 1:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>what the heck is this because we're sitting there. Have

1:48:54.200 --> 1:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you ever had the thing where you walk into a

1:48:55.960 --> 1:49:00.439
<v Speaker 1>movie and and it's actually not the movie you think

1:49:00.439 --> 1:49:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it is, and but for the first minute you're like, well,

1:49:02.400 --> 1:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess, like I thought it was a movie about

1:49:05.120 --> 1:49:08.519
<v Speaker 1>combat pilots. But maybe that movie starts out with like, uh,

1:49:08.720 --> 1:49:12.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, a bunch of people, you know, at a

1:49:12.479 --> 1:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>bar doing shots, playing rock and roll I mean, you know,

1:49:16.240 --> 1:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you kind of convince yourself. So I have

1:49:18.479 --> 1:49:20.479
<v Speaker 1>that going on with this opera. I'm sitting there and

1:49:20.479 --> 1:49:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, somehow, maybe it's like a retro thing

1:49:24.760 --> 1:49:28.240
<v Speaker 1>where it's Labo M but in eight hundred BC. Maybe.

1:49:28.720 --> 1:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>But no, no, I had actually book tickets to the

1:49:32.080 --> 1:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>wrong opera. I had book tickets to go see and

1:49:35.160 --> 1:49:38.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this because the the matinee was Labo M.

1:49:38.520 --> 1:49:41.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not crazy. I just assumed when I booked

1:49:41.240 --> 1:49:43.519
<v Speaker 1>tickets for the later show, because I didn't read the

1:49:43.560 --> 1:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>fine print or the print that I was gonna go

1:49:47.160 --> 1:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>see Labo. I'm sure it was Semi Ramada, which is

1:49:51.960 --> 1:49:53.680
<v Speaker 1>some people. I think we'd call it the last of

1:49:53.720 --> 1:49:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the great Baroque operas. EIGHTI is long, and it's one

1:49:57.760 --> 1:50:02.760
<v Speaker 1>of those opera situations where it's like our Sace is

1:50:02.880 --> 1:50:06.519
<v Speaker 1>vying for the queen's hand, but Azure wants the queen's

1:50:06.560 --> 1:50:08.559
<v Speaker 1>daughter's hand, but it's pretending to want the queen's hand

1:50:08.600 --> 1:50:10.479
<v Speaker 1>because Azure was part of getting rid of the king.

1:50:10.520 --> 1:50:12.679
<v Speaker 1>But then Arsace is actually the son of the queen

1:50:12.760 --> 1:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and the king and the uncle. And I'm sitting there

1:50:15.400 --> 1:50:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to show Ms Molly the program. I'm

1:50:17.680 --> 1:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>not trying to disturb anybody. I'm shining my little light

1:50:20.160 --> 1:50:22.040
<v Speaker 1>on her. For a second, I realized I can't do that.

1:50:22.120 --> 1:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>She's looking at me like, what the heck am I watching? This?

1:50:24.920 --> 1:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Is like King tut and I you know, I look.

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<v Speaker 1>We leaned into it, and we fortunately were able to

1:50:31.439 --> 1:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>catch ourselves at the breakpoint. Um, we were able to

1:50:37.080 --> 1:50:40.679
<v Speaker 1>catch ourselves at intermission. Breakpoint. Gosh, sounds like a savage

1:50:41.600 --> 1:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>at the intermission when I had a chocolate soufla. That's right,

1:50:45.080 --> 1:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I felt bougie. I wanted to do it, so I

1:50:47.240 --> 1:50:49.280
<v Speaker 1>had a chocolate soufla at intermission, because they can do

1:50:49.320 --> 1:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing at the opera. Have it waiting

1:50:50.960 --> 1:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>for you even I know, I know I should just

1:50:54.160 --> 1:50:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I should punch myself. But we were able to catch

1:50:57.800 --> 1:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit with the plot afterwards, and sure enough,

1:51:00.040 --> 1:51:02.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the dead king is avenged and the

1:51:02.600 --> 1:51:05.240
<v Speaker 1>good guy beats the bad guy, but the girl dies,

1:51:05.400 --> 1:51:09.760
<v Speaker 1>but the good guy. And opera plots, if you think that, like, uh,

1:51:09.960 --> 1:51:12.880
<v Speaker 1>some of those telenovelas can get complicated. Opera plots put

1:51:12.880 --> 1:51:15.680
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff to shame. Man, it was it was

1:51:15.720 --> 1:51:19.280
<v Speaker 1>a thing. So yeah, Semi Ramda based on the Voltaire

1:51:20.160 --> 1:51:23.400
<v Speaker 1>based on Voltaire Voltaire's work semi Ramas, which was about

1:51:23.479 --> 1:51:30.240
<v Speaker 1>a Babylonian Babylonian succession struggle with the Queen. Semi Ramda.

1:51:30.960 --> 1:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh so yeah, we were in it. We're rocking out

1:51:32.680 --> 1:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>in ancient Babylon Saturday night. Didn't know it. I thought

1:51:35.120 --> 1:51:37.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be hanging out in eighteen thirties Paris with

1:51:37.200 --> 1:51:40.719
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of bohemians. But you know, life's crazy, my friends,

1:51:40.960 --> 1:51:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Things happen. You gotta adapt, gotta be ready for it.

1:51:44.160 --> 1:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>So with that, I'll just tell you go check out

1:51:45.880 --> 1:51:48.479
<v Speaker 1>the opera. It's worth it at some points wherever you are,

1:51:48.520 --> 1:51:50.720
<v Speaker 1>if you can go, do it. And I'm sorry I've

1:51:50.720 --> 1:51:53.559
<v Speaker 1>skipped over roll call, but I promise you will do

1:51:53.600 --> 1:51:56.439
<v Speaker 1>it tomorrow and we'll hear from all of you until then.

1:51:56.960 --> 1:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>My friends, colleagues, patriots, fellow freed mut dwellers, Shields high