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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, Welcome to Buck Sex this show. Everybody missed

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Speaker 1: As is our custom, we have a phone here that

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Speaker 1: And we should definitely chat about whatever you've got on

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Speaker 1: that was not true. Um, isn't it amazing to see

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Speaker 1: in the case of Florida, though the Democrats who are

430
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Speaker 1: so quick to usually pick a very small incident or

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Speaker 1: a very specific incident, I should say, not a small incident.

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Speaker 1: Scratch that from a very specific incident though, of local

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Speaker 1: law enforcement in one place, and extrapolate from that a

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Speaker 1: problem with law enforcement across the whole country. All law enforcement,

435
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Speaker 1: to see what this one cop did. All law enforcements

436
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Speaker 1: so racist. We'll see what this one cops said in

437
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Speaker 1: these text messages. All law enforcements all racist, including non

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Speaker 1: white law enforcement. They'll say that they're part of the

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Speaker 1: racist system too, which is I mean, I I would

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Speaker 1: find just I find offensive on many levels. Right. But

441
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Speaker 1: in Florida, though, with the bumbling and the mess ups

442
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Speaker 1: and the miss missteps and all the stuff that we've seen,

443
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Speaker 1: the media is no interest in talking really about the

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Speaker 1: takeaways from the law enforce and failures they have to

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Speaker 1: report them. Although I will know they held it. I

446
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Speaker 1: don't care if anybody says they held it. There were

447
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Speaker 1: four deputies on the scene until Friday, and they told

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Speaker 1: us at six pm Friday that was held. People had

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Speaker 1: that information now wasn't just the Sheriff's verminent had it

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Speaker 1: or was with other people, but it was held. It

451
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Speaker 1: was also help ul after the town hall that there

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Speaker 1: was a sheriff's deputy on the scene who was outside,

453
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Speaker 1: who's now saying, oh, he didn't know. It's just so obvious, man.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the the transcript of him trying to defend

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Speaker 1: his actions here or his inactions, and it just couldn't

456
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Speaker 1: be anymore obvious to me. What's going on. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if the gunfire was inside or outside,

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Speaker 1: so I took a defensive position outside, because that's what

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Speaker 1: we're trained to do. Trying very hard to come up

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Speaker 1: with it, you know, and have a few days here

461
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Speaker 1: to think this one over. And look, if we have

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Speaker 1: a a sheriff's deputy on the scene who's got a firearm,

463
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Speaker 1: who doesn't know the difference between gunfire from inside of

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Speaker 1: building and gunfire that is outside of a building, I

465
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Speaker 1: think we got a whole of separate set of problems.

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Speaker 1: Um you're canna tell me, is no ability to to

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Speaker 1: differentiate that? I mean, does he ever hear? What? What's

468
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Speaker 1: what are we to make of this? Um? Anyway? That's

469
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Speaker 1: that's a non starter. I wanted to get into some

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Speaker 1: of the some of the policies here. I will say

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Speaker 1: I was a little the gun control policies that are

472
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Speaker 1: being but for I was a little surprised that the

473
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Speaker 1: President said this today. I'm wondering if you all have

474
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Speaker 1: thoughts on it. Don't worry about the n RA there

475
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Speaker 1: on our side, you guys here, for you are so

476
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Speaker 1: afraid of the n RA. There's nothing to be afraid of.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I've done with you. We have

478
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Speaker 1: to fight him every once in a while. That's okay.

479
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Speaker 1: They're doing what they think is right. I will tell

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Speaker 1: you they are doing what they think is right. But

481
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Speaker 1: sometimes we're gonna have to be very tough and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to fight them. I don't see the place

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Speaker 1: where there's any need to fight the n r A

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Speaker 1: on this issue. I don't see where that the n

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Speaker 1: r A is uh. And it's particularly clear for me.

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Speaker 1: As many of you know, I used to work with

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Speaker 1: Dana Lash who's the n r AS spokesperson when I

488
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: was at the Blaze. I know Dana well. I worked

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Speaker 1: with Dana or the years, countless hours now and she's

490
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Speaker 1: out there saying on behalf of the NRA A, yeah,

491
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Speaker 1: we should do a better job with background checks, information

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Speaker 1: from the states get to the federal level. Yeah, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we should consider mental health legislation that might be,

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Speaker 1: you know, the way ways we can get mental health,

495
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Speaker 1: the mental health system to be able to deal with

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Speaker 1: this and an imminent threat. Um. I've been proposing or

497
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Speaker 1: proposing trying to support the idea of temporary restraining orders

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Speaker 1: for people that are believed to be imminent violent offenders

499
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Speaker 1: with with guns. We've had David French on talk. I

500
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Speaker 1: think that's also very worthwhile proposal. I haven't heard the

501
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: n R A say boo hoo to that. So what

502
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: do we have to fight the NR and raising the

503
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Speaker 1: age limit? I mean, come on, raising the age limit

504
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Speaker 1: is penalizing many millions of people for their Second Amendment

505
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Speaker 1: rights and it is not going to do anything to

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Speaker 1: stop a determined school shooter. Um. But I suppose that's

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Speaker 1: the one place maybe where there's some disconnect between the

508
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: White House and the n RA on this, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the age limits twenty one. I'm just I'm gonna

510
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Speaker 1: be the one who says it right now. They they

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Speaker 1: if they make the age limit twenty one for semi autos.

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Speaker 1: Not long before they're gonna say, you know, maybe it

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Speaker 1: should be like renting a car. Maybe you should be

514
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Speaker 1: like twenty five, you can get a semi auto. Let's

515
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: let's make it and then there'll be another shooting. Let's

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Speaker 1: make it thirty. As long as the focus is on

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Speaker 1: the firearm and not the problems around it and problems

518
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Speaker 1: surrounding it, and law enforcements obligation to at least have

519
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: own semblance of competence in dealing with the issue, we

520
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Speaker 1: will not get very far with lessening the probability of

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Speaker 1: a mass shooting event like this. UM. All right, well,

522
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Speaker 1: let's take some calls on flip side of this break.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Australia model. I think

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Speaker 1: we actually had a caller from Australia a minute ago

525
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Speaker 1: who wanted to talk about that specifically. So I saw

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Speaker 1: you drop off. If the hopefully the charge there's no

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Speaker 1: like charges for calling in from Australia. UM. But we'll

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Speaker 1: get into all this in more. Eight four to five.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of lines lit. We have a

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Speaker 1: spot I think open, so we got room for one more.

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Speaker 1: If you want to jump in the conversation and the

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Speaker 1: next hour we'll talk more about the gun control policies,

533
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Speaker 1: maybe some Democrat memo stuff. Oh, public sector unions. We're

534
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: gonna beat up on some public sector unions. That's gonna

535
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Speaker 1: be fun. You're ready for that if you work for

536
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: like the you know, teachers unions or something. Might not

537
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Speaker 1: be your favorite segment, but maybe you'll like it, you know,

538
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Speaker 1: maybe you're maybe you're like the Ron Swanson of the

539
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Speaker 1: teachers union and hope the whole thing comes crumbling down.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that more coming up. Stay with me.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, team. I know we've got a lot of lines,

542
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: let people have. Everyone's got a lot to say on

543
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Speaker 1: this issue, as you should, so let's get to it.

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Speaker 1: Joy in Mississippi, Hey, Joy, hip up. Hello. I have

545
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Speaker 1: a simple question, Yes, ma'am. Uh. Why is it when

546
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Speaker 1: a drunk driver runs into people, it's the driver's fault,

547
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: And when hi hijackers fly a plane in the World

548
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: Trade Center, it's the hijacker's fault. When a cop sheets

549
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: an unarmed black man in the back, it's the cops fault.

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Speaker 1: But when some jerk shoots up the school, it's the

551
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: gun fault. Yeah, It's a very good question, and I

552
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: think we know the answer is because of the gun

553
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: has a gun? Guns have become a cultural and political

554
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: symbol much more than a tool that can be used

555
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: for good or used for evil right in the in

556
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Speaker 1: the eyes of the left, guns are symbolic of much more.

557
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Speaker 1: They're symbolic of state power, or really the refusal to

558
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Speaker 1: completely submit to state power. Guns are a little active

559
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Speaker 1: personal revolution, each one of us willing to say there

560
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: are lines you cannot cross. Uh. And for statuss and

561
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: for progressives, that's a that's just crazy thinking, Joy, that's unacceptable. Yes,

562
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Speaker 1: could I add one thing? He asked about Trump's comments

563
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Speaker 1: to the n R A UM. You know, there's a

564
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Speaker 1: quote by Benjamin Franklin in seventeen fifty nine that said

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Speaker 1: they that can give up essential liberty to obtain a

566
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Speaker 1: little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. That's something

567
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Speaker 1: people should keep in mind. I agree, Joy, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much for the call. Appreciated. Charlie in Ocean City, Maryland. Hey, Charlie, Hey,

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Speaker 1: glad to talk to you, you too, Yeah. Hey, on

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Speaker 1: just sure of Israel. I think he's uh, he's completely

571
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Speaker 1: missed everything. He's a lefty. We know that four of

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Speaker 1: his deputy did not perform and he had to sign

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Speaker 1: off on their training. He had to put the stamp

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Speaker 1: of approval on their training, so he's accountable. Then then

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Speaker 1: you go to these kids, and I'm a grandfather of

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Speaker 1: ten and most of them are teenagers. And when they

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Speaker 1: do something wrong, I confronted with it. They when I

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Speaker 1: go visit them, they love to sit down and talk

579
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Speaker 1: to me. So these kids bully this other boy beyond belief.

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Speaker 1: And I don't hear any reports about that. Why is that?

581
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Speaker 1: You know, I can't give you much of a profile

582
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Speaker 1: of his interactions with the other students because, as you're saying,

583
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Speaker 1: I think it's true, I haven't read that much about that.

584
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Speaker 1: I think that people would be very hesitant to you know,

585
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Speaker 1: nobody wants in any way excuse or downplay or try

586
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Speaker 1: to mitigate the evil that Nicholas Cruz committed that day,

587
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: And I think for some it might feel like a

588
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: distraction from the real responsible party here to say that

589
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: there were others who were bullying him. But he was

590
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: clearly a kid that had problems, and I'm sure had

591
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Speaker 1: all kinds of issues with his fellow students. And we've

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Speaker 1: seen some reporting about that. Um, but Charlie, you know,

593
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of kids who are bullied who

594
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Speaker 1: don't do thank thank heavens, don't do what this guy did.

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Speaker 1: So bullying is not a as I know, you know,

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Speaker 1: bullying is not an excuse. I haven't seen much of

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00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: a much reporting on it, though, So I'd be curious

598
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: to see some of these kids though, And thank you

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Speaker 1: for calling it, Charlie. Some of these uh, Trench Code

600
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Speaker 1: mafia types which if you remember, the Columbine Shooters were

601
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Speaker 1: in this group called the Trench Code Mafia, and there

602
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: was a term the people in the late nineties and

603
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: early two thousands, people would use. Some of these They

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Speaker 1: actually have a when you go and you read about them,

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Speaker 1: and uh, there's a a separation sure, and and maybe

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Speaker 1: some signs of some signs of sociopathy or even psychopathy

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Speaker 1: being a psychopath. Although some a lot of school shooters

608
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: were able to function pretty or at least come across

609
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: as pretty normal when they wanted to right beforehand. Um,

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Speaker 1: but these kids also separate themselves and to develop an

611
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Speaker 1: aggressive arrogance as part of the profile. You know, they

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Speaker 1: become disdainful. Now you could say, that's just a defense

613
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Speaker 1: mechanism to being rejected by their peers. May that may

614
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: very well be the case, but they become aggressive, arrogant,

615
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Speaker 1: and disdainful of their peers and choose to separate themselves

616
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Speaker 1: and choose to look down on and want In the

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Speaker 1: case the Columbine kids, it was well known. I mean

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Speaker 1: they wanted to get they there was a want to

619
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Speaker 1: get even with the with the popular kids aspect of

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Speaker 1: that heinous crime. Mark in North Carolina. We got a

621
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Speaker 1: little time here. Mark wanted to get you in. How

622
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: much is a little time? Mark? We've got about a

623
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Speaker 1: minute and thirty seconds, which is which is a lifetime

624
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Speaker 1: on radio, my friends. So go ahead, yes, yes, I've

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Speaker 1: got a little thing and a big thing. Which would

626
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: you rather have? Let's let's give me the little thing. Okay.

627
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Speaker 1: We are told that this guy is the shooter, actually

628
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: arrived at school with an uber driver, okay. And of

629
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Speaker 1: course he owns ten guns and ammunition and lord knows

630
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Speaker 1: everything else he had at his house. But apparently this

631
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Speaker 1: kid could never afford a car, which is also a

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Speaker 1: kind of Bodi's nineteen And I don't know what you

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Speaker 1: do in the United States if you're nineteen without a car. Well,

634
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Speaker 1: he actually got a twenty five thar check I think

635
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Speaker 1: from the insurance after his mother passed away, and he

636
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Speaker 1: used that, from what I read, to buy some of

637
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: his fires. But go ahead, grands enough money to get

638
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: a car, as you know, and get a car for

639
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand these days. But anyway, there's a report

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Speaker 1: for one of the teachers who actually we saw him

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Speaker 1: and was shot in the arm. The teacher was and

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Speaker 1: she said that she saw the man in full metal

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Speaker 1: guard with a helmet, face masks, bulletproof armor, shooting a

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Speaker 1: rifle she'd never seen before. Okay, then if you go

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Speaker 1: back to the official timeline, one of the Broward County sheriff,

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Speaker 1: he was dropped off at two nineteen and at three

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Speaker 1: three he's firing in the halls. Mark, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to revisit this, my friend. I'm sorry we actually are

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Speaker 1: at time. Welcome back to the Buck Section show. Everybody

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Speaker 1: our two has already gotten going our tours here. We

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Speaker 1: have much much to discuss, and I would note that

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, the Sunday shows, the weekend shows, they

653
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Speaker 1: try to set the political tone the conversation for the week,

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Speaker 1: and as we knew, it was on me all about

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Speaker 1: gun control. I'm gonna talk about the Australia problem in

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Speaker 1: just a moment here, and I will I will not.

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Speaker 1: We're not the Australia problem, the Australia h car which

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Speaker 1: is often played here. Oh, we should be like Australia,

659
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Speaker 1: except Australia didn't work out the way they said it would.

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Speaker 1: They're lying about it and we could never do it

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Speaker 1: here even if we wanted to. But put that on

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Speaker 1: hold for just a moment first. And also the public

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Speaker 1: sector union thing, we're gonna take them to task in

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Speaker 1: a few minutes. First year. It's something that's been going

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Speaker 1: on here. I've been mentioning to you that in the

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Speaker 1: gun control vanguard you have children who are handpicked by

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Speaker 1: the media teenagers. Really to call them children is a

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Speaker 1: little you know, I think we should have some This

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Speaker 1: would be more precise than the terminology here. Right, eighteen

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Speaker 1: plus you're an adult, not a teenager. When you're eighteen,

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Speaker 1: you're an adult. Okay, I mean technically you're a teenager,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of things are technical. Um, if you're

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Speaker 1: you know, sixteen seventeen, you know you're you're an adolescent,

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Speaker 1: you're a young adult whatever, call them children is I

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Speaker 1: think a little I'll be honest with you, I think

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit. That's a little disparaging. It's a

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Speaker 1: little condescending. They're not tentent, they're not eight. But do

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Speaker 1: you have these young people there? You go, these young

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Speaker 1: people who are out there making the case, and some

680
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: of them are very much pro gun control, some of

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Speaker 1: them are not. Some of them want to talking about

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Speaker 1: law enforcement and the job they did and other issues here.

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Speaker 1: But there's one in particular, this young man named Hog.

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Speaker 1: David Hogg. Is that right? I think it's David Hogg. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he has every right to say what he's saying,

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Speaker 1: just as I have every right to say that I

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Speaker 1: disagree with him. But it's more than just saying that

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Speaker 1: he's wrong on the facts and ignorant of the Second

689
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Speaker 1: Amendment and gun control, which he is. This guy with

690
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Speaker 1: the media as enablers, they are really handlers and enablers

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Speaker 1: for some of these hashtag never again uh teenagers who

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Speaker 1: are pushing this gun control narrative and who now you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Hogg has like three thousand Twitter followers now right,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're they're becoming let's be honest, they're becoming

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Speaker 1: political celebrities in this process. That is what is happening here. Um.

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Speaker 1: They are also to be held to account for their words. Right,

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Speaker 1: just because you have suffered a a very traumatic situation,

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Speaker 1: I would know that. In In the case of a hog,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe he was uh, And I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong here. I don't. I don't believe he

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Speaker 1: was wounded, although he's gone through the trauma of losing

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Speaker 1: of classmates and friends and teachers. Um. But there are

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Speaker 1: limits to what we can excuse based upon age and

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Speaker 1: based upon our desire to be understanding of what some

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Speaker 1: of these young people are going through, even though they're

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Speaker 1: now making themselves public figures and going on national television.

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Speaker 1: And I think we've crossed some of those limits here.

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Speaker 1: She wants Congress to take action, and she says that

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Speaker 1: they won't. Are you kidding me? She owns these congressmen.

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Speaker 1: She can get them to do things. It's just she

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Speaker 1: doesn't care about these children's lives. That is a slander.

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Speaker 1: That's not okay to say. He was speaking about Dana lash,

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Speaker 1: the n r A spokesman and also a former colleague

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Speaker 1: and friend of mine. Um, that's not okay to say.

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Speaker 1: It's not true, and it's a gross thing to say,

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Speaker 1: and it's not something that should be I don't care

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Speaker 1: what this kid has been through or what what has

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00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to accuse people of terrible things with

719
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: no evidence just because you don't like them or their

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00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: political positions. And you're seeing this now where they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: how how dare you look what he's been through? It's

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Speaker 1: I'm not No one's commenting one way or the other

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Speaker 1: on the the trauma of being a student at a

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Speaker 1: school that's just suffered this mass casualty incident. I'm going

725
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: to comment on the fact that his knowledge of gun

726
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: control and gun control policies is almost zero, and more

727
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: importantly to me, he's going around and saying things about

728
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Speaker 1: people that are disparaging, that are false, that are defamatory.

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Speaker 1: That's not okay. You don't just get to do that.

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Speaker 1: And this is the danger of using victims as political tools,

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Speaker 1: which Democrats have been doing openly and shamelessly for as

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Speaker 1: long as I've been alive. Right, this is one of

733
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Speaker 1: their favorite things to do. Find someone who has suffered

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Speaker 1: a tragedy, put them forward, and then assume that they

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Speaker 1: are inoculated from any criticism or any pushback of any kind.

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Speaker 1: And with with Hog, they're saying that, you know, Dana

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Speaker 1: she doesn't care about first of all, saying that she

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Speaker 1: owns Congress. I mean, look, Dana is an influential lady

739
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: and everything, but give me a break. She doesn't own

740
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: hasn't own Congress. There's an't own members of Congress. It's

741
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: just a that's a foolish thing to say. And then

742
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: to say she doesn't care about dead kids is an

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Speaker 1: unfair thing to say. It's wrong. An anchor should if

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Speaker 1: they were going to be journalists, say hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: Mr Hog, you know that's do you have any evidence

746
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: for that? That's that's going too far. You know, that's

747
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: just using a national platform to smear someone. And I

748
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Speaker 1: can tell you this. They you know, they wouldn't allow concerned,

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't allow a conservative point of view. Two, they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't allow a conservative victim to go on TV and

751
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: just slander somebody. You know, they wouldn't allow something to

752
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: go on TV and say, you know, Nancy Pelosi doesn't

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00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: care about dead children, right, And they shouldn't unless there's

754
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Speaker 1: a real reason for her saying that. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: they're talking about Nancy pelosi support for planned parenthood, well

756
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: then yes, in fact, actually Nancy Pelosi doesn't really care

757
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: about that children. But that's a different discussion, and that's

758
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: completely That's an argument I'm willing to have with anybody.

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Speaker 1: It's not just Nancy Pelosi either, But I will get

760
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Speaker 1: very much separated from the issue at hand if I

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Speaker 1: don't go back to this gun control discussion that we're

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Speaker 1: having right now. So, uh, the Australia case. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about this. We will get into

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Speaker 1: the Australia situation because this is what's used as the

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00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: the favorite talking point now for see all the stuff

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Speaker 1: that we've been discussing, all the different policy proposals that

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00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: either the n r A is okay with or Republicans

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00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: are putting forward or all that is, uh, not really

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Speaker 1: what the left wants. What the left wants is something

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Speaker 1: more like Australia. In fact, what the left really wants

771
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Speaker 1: is something more like Japan, where they truly are almost

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Speaker 1: I mean not no guns, but very very very few

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Speaker 1: guns in private hands. Um, But they stay away from

774
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Speaker 1: Japan for a whole bunch of reasons. There are historical

775
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: reasons why comparing the US to Japan and the Second

776
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: Amendment would be less of a less of a compelling cell.

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Speaker 1: I think for them a whole, you know, allied with

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Speaker 1: Nazi Germany thing and tyranny and imperialism and everything else,

779
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Speaker 1: and the resistance against tyranny from people who are armed

780
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: as something you can have a discussion about in the

781
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: context of the Second World War pretty easily. Um. But

782
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: back to Australia, which is a much there's a reason

783
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: that he is Australia. It's a society that minds a

784
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: lot of Americans, very much of our own, you know,

785
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: we speak the same language, shared shared cultural traditions. England

786
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: was our you know, our our our granddaddy. And the

787
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: Australian model does not work the way they say it does,

788
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Speaker 1: and it would not work for us, and I will

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Speaker 1: I will explain why after the break, and then I

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00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: think we'll move on to some talk about public sector

791
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: unions because I don't want to skip that. That is,

792
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of like redistricting in that you bring it

793
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: up and people are like, no, I want to hear

794
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: more about Russia collusion or like, you know, whatever other

795
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: things that get much more attention in the conservative media world. Um,

796
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: but there are things that that actually do matter a lot.

797
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: Redistricting matters to who's going to run the country, and

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00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: public sector unions in much the same way, and their

799
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: power also matters. I think they gave a hundred million

800
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: dollars in the last election cycle two candidates public so

801
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 1: employees of the state are donating over a hundred billion

802
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: dollars to campaign of people who are going to run

803
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: the state. What could go wrong? Obviously a lot of things.

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00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: So Australia public safe unions and more. Democrat files a

805
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: memo by the way, which is not that exciting. One

806
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: would open the show with it. But we've got some

807
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: super some worthwhile stuff too to talk about on that Um,

808
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: that's all coming up. So we've got a show that's

809
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll. Stay with me. One of

810
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: the things that people don't talk about a lot of

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Speaker 1: these schools, Sandy Hook had an all female faculty from

812
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: principle to teachers. And for a woman, were you going

813
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: to hide that gun during the day. You can't put

814
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: it in your desk, Droyer, somebody might steal it, and

815
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: you can't get to it. You're not going to have

816
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Speaker 1: it in a safe in the principal's office. You can't

817
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Speaker 1: get to it on your person, hiding it if you

818
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: wear a dress, if you wear a skirt, are you

819
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Speaker 1: gonna have to wear a jacket every day with a

820
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: belt and a holster the way a detective you know,

821
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Speaker 1: I'm duty would do. Um, It's it's not a real

822
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: practical solution. You have this guy Tom Fuente is over

823
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: at CNN, who's used to in the FBI, who's just

824
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Speaker 1: I don't know. This is analysis Apparently because there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of women in different schools, then it's impractical

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Speaker 1: for some teachers one teacher, five teachers, who knows how many,

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Speaker 1: depends on the size of school, to conceal carry because

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Speaker 1: women who are wearing who wear, you know, a skirt,

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Speaker 1: can't conceal carry. This is he really not familiar with

830
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Speaker 1: how this stuff works. Career FBI official, I will say this, Uh,

831
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Speaker 1: it's important to remember that government is think of government,

832
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Speaker 1: especially these government bureaucracies. True of the c I A,

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00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: true of the FBI, true of all these large bacs.

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Speaker 1: Think of it like a state's like a state school, right,

835
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Speaker 1: just your your average state school, the very large state school. Though,

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Speaker 1: you know, with tens of thousands of students, there are brilliant,

837
00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: amazing people there, there are also morons. And as we

838
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: see this uh now revolving door, it seems to people

839
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Speaker 1: that working and you know, look, I'm I was a

840
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: part of it, right of people that work in government,

841
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: go to media, go back to government, go to media.

842
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: Just understand that just because you work for a place

843
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: for just because someone worked for a place for a

844
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: long time that has a you know, a robust history. Right,

845
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Speaker 1: just because somebody went to a reputable state school, doesn't

846
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Speaker 1: mean they're not a moron. I'm gonna want to tell

847
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: you this. And so in this case, state schools think

848
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: of it like CIA, FBI, d O J, all this stuff. Um,

849
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: there are plenty of very very unimpressive dumb people at

850
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: all of those places. I'm and I know, I'm not guessing,

851
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: I'm not theorizing. I know, and they're also incredibly brilliant pople.

852
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: People know way more about a whole lot of things

853
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: than than me or anybody else I know in media. Right,

854
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: So it runs the gamut. I just feel that a

855
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: lot of us have this impression, well a career law

856
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: enforcement's career law enforcement. Any must really don't know his stuff.

857
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: Maybe some of them do, some of them don't. And

858
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: if Fuentes was actually I'll tell you a quick little

859
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: little side note here went is I remember was one

860
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: of the people who when I was at CNN and

861
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: you will recall the redactions of the Pulse Nightclub shooters

862
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: transcript and I'm on air in Fuentes is on air.

863
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: We're doing you know, our analysis. I'm you know, former

864
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: analysts CI analyst box exid and he's like junior FBI

865
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: like blah blah blah, and he's taking the position that

866
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: the redactions in that transcript were not Remember this was

867
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: Obama administration stuff. We're not about political correctness. We're not

868
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: mandated from the top. Nobody at d o J even

869
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: knew about it that they were going to release redacted

870
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: phone transcripts from the Pulse Nightclub shooters call and that

871
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with politics and that this

872
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: was just a call made by the by the FBI

873
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: field agents that were there. And I'm like, dude, are

874
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: you saying it because the people paying want you to

875
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: or you are you not smart? It's one or the other.

876
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: I spoke to other FBI folks who are like, including

877
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: people still in the FBI, who were like, uh, yeah, no,

878
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: that's not how it's something at that level. Wouldn't just

879
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: be something that an FBI guy did. Yeah, I'm just

880
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna redact. Remember what they were redacting? I pledge allegiance

881
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: to redacted. And America is like, yeah, isis I'm doing

882
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: this in the name of blank America. I'll right, I

883
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: we we They were redacting things that everybody and then

884
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: they changed the decision, they went back on it. But

885
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: I remember Fuentes was giving me, giving me a hard time.

886
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Decision being made by the people in the field. There's

887
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: no politicization here as soon as not did you. Jay

888
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know. Laura Lynch wouldn't even know about this.

889
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know. I know nothing to do with it.

890
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh really, really, Fuentes, why don't you explain to me

891
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: how women can't conceal carry if they were a skirt dummy? Okay,

892
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: We're was that? Oh gosh, Australia. Gun control in Australia.

893
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: Um well. The one thing is one of those sad

894
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: things about punditry is that when you're on air and

895
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: you say things and you're right. They never bring you

896
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: back and they're like, oh, by the way, when we

897
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: were piling on you and saying you were wrong and

898
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: you were right, we just wanted to apologize for being

899
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: so weird and nasty to you on air during that

900
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: because that actually that would have been great because I

901
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: would have been on seen and all the time they're like, wow, Buck,

902
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: you were right. How did you know? Oh that thing

903
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: when you said it was the gee hottest terrorist, you

904
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: were right? How did you know? You know? That would

905
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: have been a fun recurring segment. But they don't. They

906
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: don't do that. How dare you? We found this. We

907
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: found this person who was the assistant Deputy under Secretary

908
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: of something or other who worked for Loretta Lynch for

909
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: a few months and and he says, you know, oh my,

910
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: um okay, So Australia, here's what you need to know.

911
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: Here's here's here's the short version of my friends, or

912
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: maybe actually even the long version. I'll give you the

913
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: short version. There are two ways to look at the

914
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: gun control model of Australia. One is on the question

915
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: of efficacy or effectiveness. Right, did it did it achieve

916
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: the desired purpose in Australia, and the other is could

917
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: we do it here? Is it realistic? So let me

918
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: start with what Australia's gun control policy is was and

919
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: what people say about it, and then what the reality is.

920
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: So they had a mass shooting in Tasmania at a

921
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: resort I think over thirty people killed. I forget now,

922
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: I was back in the seven and they instituted a

923
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: mandatory gun buyback program, which is a gentle way of

924
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: saying confiscation with confiscation, um with compensation. That's what that is.

925
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: It's confiscation with compensation, gun buy back. But they're saying

926
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: give me your weapon, I'll give you a hundred bucks,

927
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: are two hundred bucks or whatever it is. Whatever they're

928
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: going great is they did that with about a million

929
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: firearms and the murder rate went down and they haven't

930
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: had another mass shoting. Sense. Okay, now people pointed this,

931
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: they say, see Australia did it, we can do it too.

932
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: That's just complete nonsense. Let me just start with what

933
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: really happened in Australia. Australia's crime rate, to begin with,

934
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: was very low. Australia's rate of mass shootings to begin with,

935
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: was basically non existent. That's why this shocked the country

936
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: so much. Right, they had this one big mass shooting,

937
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: but they hadn't had one before it for years, maybe

938
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: even decades. So that one incident and then they said, well,

939
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: we didn't have another one for a long time after it.

940
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: There must be some correlation, but there's not enough of

941
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: the data said, it's not like they were having three

942
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: or four mass shootings like this. And then they did

943
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: this buyback program and it stopped. No, they just didn't

944
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: have any mass shootings. They had one, they had a

945
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: buyback program and they didn't have any mass shootings after

946
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: and they said, we'll see, we solved it. But no,

947
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: that's not that's not actually addressing whether or not at work.

948
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: That's just much more to do with Australia and how

949
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: many mass shootings it has um. They also point to

950
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: it though, for a violent crime and this is another

951
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: place where if you look at the trend the trend

952
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: line for violent crime in Australia, which was already very low,

953
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: was going down, going down, going down in the eighties

954
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: and the nineties, trending down each year. And you're really

955
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: talking about I think a few hundred homicides max in

956
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: the country. In the country, Okay, So you're talking to

957
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: a very small sample set to begin with in Australia.

958
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: And then they institute this gun buyback program and guess what.

959
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: It actually kind of trended up a little bit for

960
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: a year or two after that in terms of violent

961
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: crime and holeda, but it just continued. It's it's downward decline.

962
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: And now Australia is at a point with uh, you know,

963
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: about one in a hundred thousands a murder, a murder

964
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: rate of one a hundred thousand, I think something like that.

965
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's tiny, tiny, okay. So there's no

966
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: way to look at this and say that the gun

967
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: buyback program did anything. And here's the part that they

968
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: really don't tell you is that, in fact, gun ownership

969
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: currently in Australia when it's at its lowest violent crime

970
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: rate in I don't know, fifty years or something, and

971
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: probably since they were keeping records of it, and Australia

972
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: is very very safe. So good job Australians. Uh, the

973
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: ownership of guns is actually greater than it was when

974
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: they did the buyback program. So they've even got more

975
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: guns in circulation now in private hands. They did then

976
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: because of some changes in the laws, and people actually

977
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: got firearms. And so it can't be that less guns

978
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: equals less crime because there are more guns now and

979
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: less crime. And it can be the less guns equal

980
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: less crime because the crime rate went down at about

981
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: the same what you would with same trend that you

982
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: would expect even if they didn't do a buy back program.

983
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: It was already happening. So there's nothing to point to

984
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: here and say, oh yeah. And and also note that

985
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: there's some European countries Belgium, France, uh all in Germany

986
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: that have very restrictive gun laws. Actually Belgium doesn't really

987
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: have very restrictive, but let's let's consider that an outlier.

988
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: The Netherlands. Germany friends very restrictive gun laws, and they've

989
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: still had mass shootings. Nonetheles and I haven't gotten into

990
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: the part of this where we talk about how in

991
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: the US you've got not a couple of million guns,

992
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: three million plus guns. And I've even gotten into discussion

993
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: about the Second Amendment and its role in our civic

994
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: life and in our founding and as part of our

995
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: culture and our political heritage and the natural law reasons

996
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: for protection of the south as well as a protection

997
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: against tyranny. The Australia model could never work here, and

998
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: it didn't even work the way they say it did

999
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: in Australia. That's what you need to know about that.

1000
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, we'll team. I've got some very

1001
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: significant legal cases to talk to you about. I mean,

1002
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that affects your community wherever you

1003
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: are across the country, certainly affects national level of politics, um,

1004
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: and so matters to all of us. But I am

1005
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: not a lawyer, and I do not play one on radio.

1006
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: But I do know a lot of stuff about some things,

1007
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: including reading uh Supreme Court cases and knowing about how

1008
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: all the ins and outs goes. You know, there was

1009
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: a time when you could actually become a lawyer, true story,

1010
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: without going to law school. If you pass the bar exam.

1011
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: Many states allowed you. Uh yeah, many states would allow

1012
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: you to practice law in that state without having to

1013
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: go to law school. But now law schools like a cartel,

1014
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: a three year, hundred and eighty thousand dollar plus cartel,

1015
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: and you have to just accept it. I did not.

1016
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have, but I didn't. But Before I

1017
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: get to that, Brian Ohio wants to speak about the

1018
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Australian model for a second. Brian, go ahead, Hey, but

1019
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: first of all, that last guy clip you had on

1020
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: that was probably one of the most sexist things they

1021
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: ever heard in the first place. In the way stream

1022
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: it isn't that crazy by the guys on CNN, he's

1023
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: like career Mr Law Enforced and Scott He's like, he's like, yeah,

1024
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: women were skirts, they can't carry uns. Like wow, Yeah,

1025
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of very flattering ladies. You know,

1026
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: we're flattering clothing and they are packing and you would

1027
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: know a moment about it. So um, I had, by

1028
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: the way, I had a buddy who was who was

1029
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: a world class firearms expert who always told me that

1030
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: he was of all the different ways to draw, he

1031
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: was faster out of any time that he was faster

1032
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: out of a Fannie Pack holster than anything else. Well yeah,

1033
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: well any more of these days, if you see somebody

1034
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: wearing a Fannie Pack, you know they're carrying. So let's

1035
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: just the way it is, uh, because you know, or

1036
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: maybe they're just like retro and it's you know, they

1037
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: want to go with more of an eighties vibe. But

1038
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: you know who knows? Yeah right, Uh, Well, onto Australia

1039
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: real quick. Like you know, there's three points you're Australia.

1040
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: One is its population. The other one is its immigration

1041
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: population of twenty million instead of the US which has

1042
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: three million. That's another I wanted to get there. Your

1043
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: right to remind me of it. Yeah, yeah, well if

1044
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: you look at it that right now. I did this

1045
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: the numbers the other day in a conversation like this,

1046
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: and the population of the US is one thousand, three

1047
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: hundred fifty greater than Australia. So if you assume that

1048
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: mental health illness is linear, that means the US is

1049
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: one thousand, three hundred fifty more likely to have an issue.

1050
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: Now you add in our various degregation of the family,

1051
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: Uh you're looking at other electronics influences, Hollywood influences, and

1052
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: so forth. I would bet this more of like worth

1053
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: three thousand percent more likely to have a violent incident. Uh,

1054
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: just regarding population. Um. Also, they have a very strict

1055
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: immigration policy. They don't allow people in from countries that

1056
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: have a lot of violence in the country without just

1057
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: completely uh complete immigration check. Uh. They're very strict on

1058
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: their immigration. Yeah, and Brian, can I just add into this.

1059
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean, everything everything you're saying is is correct. I

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Speaker 1: just want to add in that. Can you imagine if

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Speaker 1: for some let's just say and Trump's not gonna do this,

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Speaker 1: and the Congress is not gonna do this, but let's

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Speaker 1: just say they said, you know what, Yeah, we've just

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Speaker 1: decided that we are elected representatives are going to gut

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment and pass a band on all semi

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Speaker 1: automatic firearms in the United States, which people have been

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Speaker 1: talking about. Right, Rubio got booed when he said that

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Speaker 1: that was impossible or unlikely or whatever at the CNN

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Speaker 1: town hall. If they did that, all they would do

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Speaker 1: is make tens of millions of Americans criminals by FIAT. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Never mind the whole Second Amendment violation, because people just

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Speaker 1: aren't going to give up their guns. And then what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do? I mean, I've talked about this

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Speaker 1: in californiaan not California. In Connecticut alone, there are I

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Speaker 1: think it's around a hundred thousand people that they think

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Speaker 1: have what are now banned semi automatic rifles and state

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Speaker 1: in Connecticut. But you know, they're not like going in

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Speaker 1: kicking indoors and going after them because one that on

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Speaker 1: the resources and too they realized none of those people

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Speaker 1: are actually a threat exactly. And you know the other

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Speaker 1: other side of the coin is just because somebody suffers

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Speaker 1: from hopophobia, which is the fear of guns. Uh you

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Speaker 1: know that is two in itself is a mental amalfillments

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Speaker 1: that needs to have therapy in order to have a

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Speaker 1: complete and healthy life. Yeah, so you look, but the

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Speaker 1: Australia is not gonna work here. Thank you for calling in,

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Speaker 1: Brian from Ohio, going to talk to you. Australia thing,

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Speaker 1: it's just they throw that in there because they you know,

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Speaker 1: they want to say, well we do this another countryuis

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Speaker 1: and no sorry, fun fact that Australia. I think it

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Speaker 1: got more a greater inflow of millionaires immigrated to Australia

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Speaker 1: than any other country in the world last year. I

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Speaker 1: think that's I think that's true. I think the greatest

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Speaker 1: number left France. They now have a very high millionaire's tax.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like people don't like it when the government

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Speaker 1: takes too much of their money. Um or they just

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Speaker 1: also like really like kangaroos and great barrier reef um

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Speaker 1: I'll have to get to Australia one day. Alright, So

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Speaker 1: into these big policy law things that I want to

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Speaker 1: talk to about. Two of them DACCA and public sector unions.

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Speaker 1: Both big news on both of these today, and i'll

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Speaker 1: cover them in a we'll do kind of a twofer here,

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Speaker 1: hit them both too. Two birds, one segment of legal analysis.

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Speaker 1: So the first one is the Supreme Court and they're saying, oh, look,

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Speaker 1: the Spring Court. The Supreme Court has refused to hear

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration challenge on DOCCA. All this means and

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Speaker 1: people are running with this and Lebrons is that's a

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Speaker 1: big deal. All this means is that the actual process

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Speaker 1: that's in place which would mandate that this now go

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Speaker 1: up to the Ninth Circuit, which is the Ninth the superliberal,

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Speaker 1: left wing circuit that gives all the terrible decisions. So

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Speaker 1: we know how this is gonna go, right, We know

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Speaker 1: some judge and California is gonna say DACCA is a

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Speaker 1: constitutional right. The Founding Father sat around and all that

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Speaker 1: cared about was DACA. That's what the fight against the

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Speaker 1: British was started on. The Brits were unwilling to adhere

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Speaker 1: to DACA principles anyway, Um, they're gonna completely make up

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Speaker 1: some crap and then it will go to the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: and then I think it will be reversed. I think

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration will be correct. But the problem in

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Speaker 1: the short term is that one we know what the

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Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit is gonna do, right, that's a given. Um,

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Speaker 1: there is no question that they're gonna be in favor

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Speaker 1: of It doesn't matter what iteration or what what specific

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Speaker 1: judge you're gonna get out there, they're gonna say, yea DACA.

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, you had a circuit court I

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Speaker 1: mean a just a federal john, not an appeals court judge,

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Speaker 1: but if a federal judge who had already yeah, circuit

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Speaker 1: court judge, um, who had already decided that the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration does not have in its discretion the right to

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Speaker 1: undo a position of discretion taken by the Obama administration. Right.

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Speaker 1: So just just think about this for a second. If

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Speaker 1: it is you know up to uh, you know, if you,

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Speaker 1: for example, are the landlord of a property, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to put this in terms that we can all

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Speaker 1: kind of Ye, I've had good landlords, I've had many

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Speaker 1: more bad landlords. Unfortunate man landlords, especially in New York

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Speaker 1: or brutal. But if you were a landlord for property

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Speaker 1: and you had an agreement with the tenant that you

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Speaker 1: were going to let them, um, you know, pay a

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Speaker 1: a tem percent reduction in the market rate because I

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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, you feel you feel bad further

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Speaker 1: in ethel or something, who knows. But if if you

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Speaker 1: were getting that reduction and then somebody else came along

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Speaker 1: and bought the property and they were a lawful owner

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Speaker 1: of it, and they said, you know what, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna honor that previous agreement anymore. I'm the new owner.

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Speaker 1: It's now up to me. It's up to my discretion.

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Speaker 1: You think that would be a pretty straightforward thing, right

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Speaker 1: the new owner says no. Or if the old owner

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Speaker 1: let you smoke in the house and now the new

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Speaker 1: owner says, no smoking in the house. I don't think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people will be able to win a

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Speaker 1: court case like well the old owner said that I could, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's not how it works. Well, the

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Speaker 1: the current occupant of the White House says one thing

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Speaker 1: about DOCCA, and a circuit court judge was like, nah,

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Speaker 1: because the Obama administration said something else, and I like

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Speaker 1: what the Obama administration said. So I'm gonna take away

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration's ability to fully execute the their Trump's authority,

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Speaker 1: specifically as commander in chief and as as the president.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take away his authority on this issue because

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't like it. It's a disgrace. I

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Speaker 1: mean legally that they're gonna lose. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: because the way our courts have been stacked in certain

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Speaker 1: parts of the country with left it to just rewrite

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Speaker 1: the laws they see fit. You're you have this already

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Speaker 1: Circuit Court judge who said, yep, Trump can't undo what

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Speaker 1: Obama did, even though it's Trump's right and prerogative to

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Speaker 1: undo it if he wants to. And Supreme Court didn't

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Speaker 1: step ahead of the Ninth Circuit. So it's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to go to the Ninth Circuit. How probably happens to

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Speaker 1: spraining is gonna be delayed. In the meantime, you know,

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Speaker 1: they've stopped the Trump administration um from winding down the

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Speaker 1: Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. This look, this is

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Speaker 1: hashtag resistance at work here, my friends. So that's what

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Speaker 1: that is that's the one. We got one down, we

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Speaker 1: got one more to go. Um and we get into

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Speaker 1: this this situation about public sector unions and this, I

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Speaker 1: know this sounds a little you're not super excited to

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Speaker 1: hear me talk about public section unions. I understand that,

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Speaker 1: all right. I I think that it's easy to view

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Speaker 1: some of these cases about organizing and unions and everything

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Speaker 1: is you know, what's really the big deal? But this

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Speaker 1: is a big deal. This is a big deal. But

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you why until after the breaks. You

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Speaker 1: have to stay with me, and then I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: That's that is that that is the the deal that

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Speaker 1: we have on the table right now, be right back.

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Speaker 1: So public sector unions are possibly going to be in

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Speaker 1: a tight spot here or a different spot when it

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Speaker 1: comes to their their fees, um when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the money that they collect. Because here's what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And you've got a case the Supreme Court just heard

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Speaker 1: and it is Janice the f S A F S

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Speaker 1: C M E. And here's what's going on. Uh, some

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Speaker 1: of these public sector unions they force you to pay

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Speaker 1: membership dues even if you don't want to um it.

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Speaker 1: And it's a large it's a large part of what

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Speaker 1: funds them. And because of some previous Supreme Court decisions,

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Speaker 1: this has been okay up to this point in time.

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Speaker 1: But here's the here's the issue. Mark Jannis, hence Janice

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Speaker 1: fee Offs asked me, Uh, Mark Jannis says, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. I don't want money

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Speaker 1: going towards I don't want my money going toward a

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Speaker 1: public sector union that is going to be advocating against

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Speaker 1: what I want. And here's here's where this really comes

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Speaker 1: into play. A public sector union is different than a

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Speaker 1: private sector union because public sector unions are inherently, inherently

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Speaker 1: political in their actions. This is not like a private

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Speaker 1: sector union where if you get a bunch of guys

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Speaker 1: who all get together and you're gonna be demanding certain

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Speaker 1: wages for carpenters or welders or you know, you name it, plumbers. Uh,

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Speaker 1: then do they create prevailing wage and that affects state

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Speaker 1: and local law and so you benefit from that. Now,

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Speaker 1: people can argue whether that's fair either that you can

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Speaker 1: be forced together this right to work states now and

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Speaker 1: this is a whole other, very complicated ball wax, but

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Speaker 1: with public sector unions, the only payer is the taxpayer.

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Speaker 1: That's where they get their money, and their actions there

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Speaker 1: for their their efforts are effectively government lobbying because they

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Speaker 1: are trying to get more money for the government and

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Speaker 1: they're trying to change government policy. So there's no way

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Speaker 1: you have a public sector union, whether it's teachers or

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, municipal employees, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 1: there's no way you have a public sector union that

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Speaker 1: is not inherently engaged in political activity, not just economic

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Speaker 1: activity or economic lobbying, because they're going to the government.

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Speaker 1: They are they they are the government right there involved

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Speaker 1: in government activity. So it seems pretty straightforward. People get

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Speaker 1: very upset about this and they make it much more

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Speaker 1: complicated than it should otherwise be. And here's why private

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Speaker 1: private unions are. Private sector unions are way down in

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Speaker 1: membership now. UM and there's a lot of right to

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Speaker 1: work states that have popped up, and there's any number

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Speaker 1: of UM. Well, you point to some of the large unions,

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Speaker 1: you realize that they're losing members um and and the

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Speaker 1: unions don't have the power they used to. UH. Public

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Speaker 1: sector unions have actually gotten to be a much bigger

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Speaker 1: part of the union pie and as you may guess,

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Speaker 1: they are financially pretty substantial when it comes to donations

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Speaker 1: and political elections. In the last cycle, I think I

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Speaker 1: said close to a hundred million. I overstated a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It was more like sixty three million. But that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. Sixty three million dollars into lot cycle,

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Speaker 1: sixty three million dollars alone, and the number has been

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Speaker 1: ramping up to I see this. It was sixty three

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Speaker 1: and then the election before that, it was fifty three

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Speaker 1: before that, forty five before that before that, nineteen before that, seventeen.

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Speaker 1: You know, every two years you're seeing jump, jump, jump,

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Speaker 1: big jumps in these public sector unions and the money

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Speaker 1: that they're giving for these different election cycles. And here's

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Speaker 1: the other part of this that really matters now, I

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Speaker 1: mean the free speech part of it or not. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's it's going down on free speech grounds. That's

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Speaker 1: where I think the problem is, because you are taking

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Speaker 1: money from somebody and forcing them to subsidize what is

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Speaker 1: inherently a a form of compulsory first timement activity. Right,

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Speaker 1: You're saying, I'm gonna take your money and give it

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Speaker 1: to this group that wants more government, and you know

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Speaker 1: is engaged in government big government lobbying activities, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: So there's that. But the part of this that gets

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Speaker 1: the left so upset and the reason why they're gonna

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I mean, almost as many people are

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Speaker 1: going to die as a result of this change that

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Speaker 1: I think the Supreme Court is going to visit upon

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Speaker 1: public sector unions. Almost as many millions will die as

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Speaker 1: died from the Republican tax cut, which I know left

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Speaker 1: left mad Max like devastation in many parts of this country. Um,

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Speaker 1: sorry about that, guys. I know that tax cut, that

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Speaker 1: that thousand dollar bonus you may have gotten from your company.

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Speaker 1: You know that. That's just it's the reason why all

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Speaker 1: the houses around you have burned down and then and

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Speaker 1: there's now just you know, flame tornadoes everywhere, and mad

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Speaker 1: Max Like I said, Ah, but they public sector unions,

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Speaker 1: they give their money to Democrats. Ah, now we know

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Speaker 1: why the media cares so much. This is a huge

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Speaker 1: source of big money for Democrat candidates. In fact of

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Speaker 1: public sector unions donations and the last political cycle went

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Speaker 1: to Democrat candidates. So that's sixty million dollars in cash

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Speaker 1: that they're getting from people who are basically unfire able

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Speaker 1: and work for the government. And you see this self

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Speaker 1: licking ice cream cone of government employees who are trying

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Speaker 1: to do everything they can do. Elect representatives who will

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Speaker 1: make sure the government employees get the most money and

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Speaker 1: the most benefits they possibly can, and that means Democrats.

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Speaker 1: This is how the part, this is how Democrats became

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Speaker 1: the party of the state, and the state became full

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Speaker 1: of statists, as in, people who work for the government

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Speaker 1: tend to be not everybody, but tend to be pro government, right,

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Speaker 1: thinking that government solved problems, then the government does good things.

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Speaker 1: And especially at the federal level, you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of this, a lot of that sentiment going on. But

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is clearly the party that is most

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Speaker 1: concerned with the expansion of the state, the expansion of

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Speaker 1: the ranks of bureaucrats and government employees as much as

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Speaker 1: it possibly can, because it has become an important, uh

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Speaker 1: an important way of getting support for Democrat politicians. All right,

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Speaker 1: this is now a source of considerable power, and the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court isn't going to eliminate it or eradicate it,

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Speaker 1: but may put quite a dent in it because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say no, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do that. I don't want to do that. You know,

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: maybe the folks who work for the government, who aren't Democrats,

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Speaker 1: who aren't statuss will have a little more say in

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01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: their affairs. Maybe we'll see that the donation numbers will

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Speaker 1: change too. And McCarthy's joinings in a few minutes here

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Speaker 1: to talk about the Democrat memo short version, Adam Schiff

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01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: is a punk and he's not telling the truth. We

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Speaker 1: have more. Welcome to our three of the Buck Sexton Show. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Great to have you here. We've

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Speaker 1: got Anie McCarthy. We'll be with us in just a

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Speaker 1: few more. Went to go into a bit of a

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Speaker 1: deep dive on the Democrat fis memo. What he saw there?

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Speaker 1: What I saw there? Well, we'll have an exchange on that,

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01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: but first lighten it up for a few minutes. Just

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Speaker 1: get into a bit of a buck slap situation here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come up with a cooler you know, I

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Speaker 1: think we should do like a montage of you know,

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01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: the old Kung Fu movies where all that's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: all the different I didn't do a very good job,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, right we should do

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Speaker 1: something like that, really lean into the bucks lap, because

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Speaker 1: right now a solo slap is not enough. It needs

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Speaker 1: to be more than just a solitary solitary slab um.

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Speaker 1: But I had two things. These don't really go together

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Speaker 1: other than just giving a buck slap to the media.

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Speaker 1: The first is you will recall that guy, Michael Wolfe,

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Speaker 1: who wrote the book Fire and Fury, which my favorite

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Speaker 1: part of that whole story, by the way, was that

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Speaker 1: Fire and Fury, a book about the Second World War

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Speaker 1: and an aerial campaign. I think it was the bombing

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Speaker 1: of Berlin, but I forget, but you know, aerial combat

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Speaker 1: in the Second World War that was published like many

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Speaker 1: years ago, went to the top of the New York

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Speaker 1: Times bestseller list because of Fire and Fury. The other book, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Amazon effect, but this guy wrote Fire and Fury,

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Speaker 1: Michael Wolfe, and he had an interview recently where he

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: pulled one of the great media things that you'll see

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Speaker 1: people do, which is when you get a question that

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Speaker 1: you don't like, just do the whole Well, I'm sorry,

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01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,520
Speaker 1: I can't what was that is that? Like you got

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01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: he's trying to ask me. No, it's all fuzzy, Roy,

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01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: it's fuzzy in me. He doesn't sound like that, but

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Speaker 1: I just want to do that voice. Go ahead and

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Speaker 1: play it. You see during a TV interview just last

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: month that you are absolutely sure that Donald Trump is

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01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: currently having an affair while president behind the back of

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Speaker 1: the First Lady, and I repeat, you said you were

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Speaker 1: held Yeah, I can't. Last week, however, you beg flipped instead.

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Speaker 1: I quote, I do not know if the president is

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Speaker 1: having an affair? Do you over the president and the

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01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: First Lady? An apology? Mr Wolf? I can't hear you.

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Speaker 1: I can't hear you. Hello. Last month, you said you

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: were absolutely sure that the president was having an affair.

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting I'm not getting anything. I'm not I'm

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01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: not hearing him anymore. I'm not getting anything now. I'm

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Speaker 1: not getting you know, we were hearing each other well

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Speaker 1: just before. I'm not hearing me, Mr Wolf. Do you

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Speaker 1: do you hear I'm not now. I'm just I'm not

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Speaker 1: hearing anything. Wolf was hearing me before hearing me. I'm

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Speaker 1: not hearing anything. It looks all right. Can we stop

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: this for a second because this is let me tell

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: you something, he's hearing him. You know how I know.

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Speaker 1: He keeps waiting from stop saying, excuse me, slimy, shifty,

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Speaker 1: grotesque character named Michael Wolfe, can you answer the question please?

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Speaker 1: I'm not He waits till he stops each time. If

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Speaker 1: you couldn't hear him, he would just be sitting you, Guys,

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Speaker 1: I got no thing, and there'd be cross dok, guys,

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Speaker 1: I got nothing. I'm sorry, I can't you know, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: excuse me a pile of human refuse. You made unsubstantiated

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Speaker 1: and grotesque allegations against the president. Could you please tell

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Speaker 1: us if you owe him a retraction and apology. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I can't. I don't know. I can't hear um.

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Speaker 1: If he couldn't hear, folks, and I want to play

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Speaker 1: it for you. If if Michael wolf couldn't hear guess what,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have waited until the question ended each time

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Speaker 1: to say I can't hear you notice, And there are

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Speaker 1: a couple of times there's a little cross talk, but

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Speaker 1: he kept waiting. You know. This would be this would

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Speaker 1: be like me walking around saying I'm gonna hold my breath.

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Speaker 1: I'm holding my breath. I'm holding it right now. And

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Speaker 1: you're like, wait, but Buck, you're talking. How can you

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Speaker 1: be holding your breath? Shut up? I'm holding my breath

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Speaker 1: so that he gets a buck slap for that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: come on, John slap him, Yes, exactly. And then in

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Speaker 1: some guy who looks like the mean fraternity brother from

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Speaker 1: an eighties movie. Uh, and that looks like that comes

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Speaker 1: from somebody who looks like the nice fraternity brother from

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Speaker 1: an eighties movie, namely me, it's some guy named Peter

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Speaker 1: Alexander at the Today Show asked Ivanka the following question,

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Speaker 1: do you believe your father's accusers? I think it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty inappropriate question to ask a daughter if she believes

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Speaker 1: um the accusers of her father when he's affirmatively stated

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Speaker 1: that there's no truth to it. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: a question you would ask many other daughters. I believe

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Speaker 1: my father. I know my father, so I think I

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01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: have that right as a daughter, um, to believe my father.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's actually a buck slap courtesy of Ivanka too,

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Speaker 1: the punk Peter Alexander, Papa, Ivanka just buck slapped him.

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Speaker 1: She bucks slapped him. It was amazing because, by the way,

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Speaker 1: completely true. Show me where some NBC glorified frat boy

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Speaker 1: is asking Chelsea Clinton if her dad's a rapist on

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Speaker 1: on TV while he's president or at any time. I

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Speaker 1: just want to know, Hey, Chelsea Clinton, sit down, talk

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01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: to me for a second. Is your dad a rapist?

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Speaker 1: That's not a question she's ever been asking. That would No,

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01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: that's not a fair question to ask her, you know,

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01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: that's not that's not a question. That's not a question

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01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: that should be posed to anybody in that situation. But

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Speaker 1: they'll pose it to Avanca because at NBC they are

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Speaker 1: in the tank with the never Trump, anti Trump hashtag resistance.

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Speaker 1: So Buck slaps a plenty there, and we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Anny McCarthy joining in just a moment. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: So here we are our three of the Buck Sexton Show,

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Speaker 1: and I've been promising you that we would have the

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Speaker 1: one and only the McCarthy to weigh in on the

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Speaker 1: memo that dropped over the weekend. It it dropped with

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Speaker 1: a bit of a of a whimper. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: it did not exactly have the splash of the Republican memo.

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Speaker 1: But we should get into why and whether that is

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Speaker 1: in fact even a fair assessment of it. We've got

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Speaker 1: Andy with us now. He is a former Assistant U

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Speaker 1: S Attorney for the Southern District of New York. He

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Speaker 1: is also a senior writer at National Review and at

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Speaker 1: the National View Institute. Andy, thanks so much for joining Buck.

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Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. All right, Den memo, what were your thoughts? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you're right that it landed with

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Speaker 1: a whimper, although you know, to be fair to uh

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Speaker 1: the the it was a Saturday, so we can start

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Speaker 1: with that. Well, yeah, it was a Saturday, and it

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Speaker 1: was also in the midst of this uh hubbub of

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Speaker 1: the shooting in Florida, which really hasn't died down, and

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Speaker 1: that's I think taken a lot of the oxygen up.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that UM for their own and

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Speaker 1: they have they have a motive to kind of soft

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Speaker 1: peddle this because, uh, despite everything that Representative shift is

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Speaker 1: out there saying. His memo does concede the two main

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Speaker 1: allegations in the majority memo that's known as the New

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Speaker 1: Neez Memo. Namely, they did use the Steel dossier, and secondly,

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Speaker 1: they didn't disclose to the court that the Steel dossier

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Speaker 1: was a Hillary Clinton campaign product. So you know how

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01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 1: much they want to have all the back and forth

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01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: when those two major allegations have actually been confirmed. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of people who who aren't loving

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Speaker 1: that end of the argument. And the one part of

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Speaker 1: it that really jumped out to me was that there

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Speaker 1: was a place at which they said the Steel dossier

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Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing here, but it was the Steel dossier

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Speaker 1: was later verified. I buy blacked outline, blocked outline, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: etcetera about you know, twenty blacked outlines in a row.

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01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be the thing that we

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01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: really need to see and to know. Yeah, I agree

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Speaker 1: with you about that for a few reasons. Number one, um,

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01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: you know the obvious, which which is that, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: if there really was probable cause, then we should see

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Speaker 1: what the basis of it was. And obviously they should

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01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: preserve whatever they can of of methods and sources and

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Speaker 1: sensitive intelligence secrets. And I understand they don't want to

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Speaker 1: blow things that we know about Russia. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, at the same time, you know, this is

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Speaker 1: now enough of a thing where it certainly seems that

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Speaker 1: the first memo, the first plies of warrant at the

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Speaker 1: very least was largely dependent on the dossier. Uh So

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Speaker 1: you would think that if there's better justification for it

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Speaker 1: out there, that would be a good thing to dough

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Speaker 1: And I guess the second thing, Buck is that I

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Speaker 1: don't really think I'm ready to take Adam Schiff's word

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Speaker 1: that what he thinks is corroboration is what would satisfy

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Speaker 1: me as corroboration, because he has an idea about corroboration

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Speaker 1: based on what else is in his memo that's pretty skewed. Um,

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Speaker 1: So I'd like to see it for myself and make

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Speaker 1: up my own mind about whether it really corroborates the

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Speaker 1: idea that that page was an agent of a foreign power.

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Speaker 1: And in one section, and everyone we're talking about this

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01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: the Democrat response to the FISA abuse memo. This was

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01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: the one that had been there's some back and forth

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01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: over it in recent weeks, Um and Andy, Before I

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01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: actually get in the specifics of this one subsection, do

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01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: we know where the blackdown lines in this? Who's to

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01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: blame for them so to speak? Or who is the

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01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: final say? I mean, essentially, why were some of the

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Speaker 1: lines about sources blacked out? Was it Republicans demanding them

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01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: because I've seen a lot of Democrats saying that or

1485
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: is it the FBI or do we not know? Well,

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01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: we know, but that the Republican members of the Committee

1487
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: voted to release shifts memo from the from the start.

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01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 1: They wanted it out there. Um, so I don't think

1489
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: it's the Republicans on the committee who are doing this. Uh.

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01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: Then there was a lot of negotiation between as I

1491
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: understand that the FBI on behalf of the intelligence community,

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01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 1: the Justice Department, the White House, and Shift and the

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01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: Democrats on the Committee trying to uh come to accommodations

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01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: that would allow Shift to make the arguments that he

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01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: wanted to make without exposing methods and sources of intelligence

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01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:47,879
Speaker 1: and important intelligence secrets. And I think, you know, members

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01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: of Congress, can they really do have immunity under the

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01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: Constitution and they could go up on the on the

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01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:59,919
Speaker 1: floor of the House and say whatever is in the redaction.

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Speaker 1: They don't do that because if it would harm the country,

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01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: obviously it would be very politically damaging for them to

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01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: do that. So I think this is a matter of

1503
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: them accommodating or or deferring to the judgment of the

1504
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: FBI in particular that exposing what's blacked out would be

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: bad for the country. All right, now, this part of

1506
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: the the memo says the following, FB this is under

1507
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: FBI's counterintelligence investigation. In its October fives application and subsequent renewals,

1508
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: d o J accurately informed the FBI. UH, the FBI

1509
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: initiated its counter intelligence investigation on julyeen after receiving information,

1510
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: and then it's blocked out. George Papadopoulis revealed blocked out

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01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: that individuals linked to Russia who took interest in Papadopolis

1512
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: as a Trump campaign foreign policy advisor informed him in

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01:26:54,360 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: late April that Russia it's blocked out. Okay, that's you know.

1514
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm putting it out there just because what do you

1515
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: make of this? It seems to me like this it

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01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: reads like what we already knew about Papadopolis based on

1517
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: that news report that's out there, that he was talking

1518
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: some stuff to some people. But is this the best

1519
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: they can do on Papadopolis Because to me, the the

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01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: inclusion of this guy in here makes the whole case

1521
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: seem kind of flimsy. Yeah, well, I think the case

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01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: is flimsy, But let me um let me just and Buck,

1523
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: you probably have even more experience with this than I do.

1524
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,919
Speaker 1: But um let me say what I think is happening

1525
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: here in good faith, and that is you know, I

1526
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: remember years ago in the blind Shake case, I had

1527
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: to try to get in some information about what the

1528
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: CIA was doing in Afghanistan, including the fact that we

1529
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: used Pakistan as kind of the cutout. And even though

1530
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: there had been books written about that, uh and it

1531
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 1: was a well known fact, I was not able are

1532
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: allowed to disclose it in formally as a representative of

1533
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: the government because the the intelligence community in our government

1534
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: never acknowledges who gives us information. So I think what's

1535
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: going on there is that even though everybody knows the

1536
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: Australians gave us that information and everybody knows what the

1537
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: information was, because it's all right, this is this is

1538
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: the government pretending something is still not known, that that

1539
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: everybody that that is considered common knowledge, which they which

1540
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: they do everybody for you, those of you you are listening.

1541
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: The government will still say things are classified that are

1542
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: literally what you would see if you googled it, but

1543
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: they still pretend that right, And I think that's done

1544
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: for good reason. That's done so that we can look

1545
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: Pakistan or Australia or anyone else in the eye and say,

1546
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: if you cooperate with us, we will always protect you,

1547
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: and we will always keep it confidential, no matter who

1548
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 1: knows it. All right, So, what is the single biggest

1549
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: part of the memo Andy that that did or this

1550
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: thing the biggest question that remains un answered for you

1551
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: at this point. I think there are two questions. But

1552
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:13,480
Speaker 1: the first is, um, was there any other information besides

1553
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: the Steel dossier, which was completely uncorroborated that made out

1554
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: the very demanding standard under five of when you want

1555
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: to get a warrant on an American citizen that he

1556
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: was acting as an active knowing agent of a foreign

1557
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: power whose planned destined activities violated federal criminal law. I'd

1558
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: like to know if there's anything else, because it sure

1559
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: looks like the Steel DOSSI was the only thing they

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01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: had along those lines. And secondly, whenever the government gets

1561
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: an eavesdropping warrant, whether it's in FISA National security stuff

1562
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: or Title three criminal stuff, you always have to demonstrate

1563
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: to the court that alternative uh investigative techniques, that is,

1564
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: tactics other than surveillance, which is very intrusive. Um could

1565
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 1: not work to get you the information that you need.

1566
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: And the reason I think it's important, and this is

1567
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: something that really hasn't been addressed to this point, is

1568
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: that we now know that Paige had a relationship with

1569
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: the FBI that went back to two thousand thirteen. He

1570
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: was an informant for them in a case against Russian spies.

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01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: They used his information in a complaint, and they interviewed

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01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 1: him again as late as March of So he's someone

1573
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: who's been very available to them, and that there's no

1574
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 1: reason to believe, at least based on what we know publicly,

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01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: that he's ever been untruthful with them as a as

1576
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: an informant. So the question I'd have is why get

1577
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: a surveillance warrant on him when if you wanted to

1578
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: know whether he met with these two top Russian guys

1579
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 1: or not, you could bring him in an interview him

1580
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 1: and ask them. Yeah, the whole carter page component of

1581
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 1: this Andy strike me as as such a such a stretch,

1582
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: the notion that this guy was at the heart of

1583
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: some international conspiracy and that therefore there had to be

1584
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: as you said, very intrusive and very high level surveillance

1585
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: techniques used against him. It seems much more likely me

1586
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: at this point that some of the people who understand

1587
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 1: how this process works, and as you have pointed out,

1588
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 1: once you get somebody's calms and their communications, their previous

1589
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: stored stuff, stored email, stored text messanges are fair game too.

1590
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: They wanted to do some poking around Carter Page had

1591
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 1: these previous fuzzy, weird Russia contacts, and it looks like

1592
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: it's it looks like a pretext. Andy. I know you

1593
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: can't say it was because we don't know yet, but

1594
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: to me, it looks like it was done as a

1595
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: pretext for surveillance. Yeah, and Buck, and I want to

1596
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: be clear because I agree with that, um, but I

1597
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: am not one of these people who says like I'm

1598
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: so like a fervently died in the world Trump person

1599
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: that it would have been outrageous for the Obama administration

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01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: to conduct this investigation. To the contrary, I've said, if

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01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: they had real evidence here of collusion of a corrupt

1602
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 1: nature between the campaign, the Trump campaign, and the Russians,

1603
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 1: then it would have been irresponsible not to investigate that.

1604
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 1: And if it turns out that there are other bases

1605
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: for Carter Page to have been thought to be an

1606
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 1: agent of a foreign power, and they had real evidence

1607
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: of that. I'm all for it. I'm I'm like, you know, whatever,

1608
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: whoever we need to surveil, we should all that too. Yeah. Yeah,

1609
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that this I'm not one of

1610
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: these people who was who was saying this was an

1611
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: illegitimate thing from the get go. I'm somebody who has

1612
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: reluctantly been dragged to the point of saying something really

1613
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 1: bad went on here. And this is after months of

1614
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: telling people. You know, look, the FBI and the Justice

1615
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: Department don't do that kind of stuff. They don't go

1616
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 1: to a court with uncorroborated hearsay from unidentified sources that

1617
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 1: comes from political sources. They go out and do independ

1618
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: an investigation, and when they got in the fives the court,

1619
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: they make sure that what they've given the court is

1620
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 1: vetted and they make every proper disclosure they can make,

1621
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 1: because that's the Justice Department. I know, and I've told

1622
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 1: people for months that what it looks like happened here

1623
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 1: couldn't happen here. All right, We'll have to see, We'll

1624
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 1: keep an eye on it, Andy McCarthy. Everybody read his

1625
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: latest at National Review dot com. They actually just updated

1626
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: the site. Looks great. Go check it out. Also follow

1627
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Andy on Twitter. Mr riccarty. Always appreciate you making the time, sir,

1628
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for hanging out with us. Thanks

1629
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 1: so much. Buck. See, we're gonna roll into a quick

1630
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: break here. When we come back, I'm going to have, oh,

1631
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: some things to talk to you about. You're going to uh,

1632
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to hear them because we have some

1633
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: some audio of them talk about diversity that oh guess what,

1634
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 1: it went off the rails that's coming up. Stay with me.

1635
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 1: You can be irritated by it. You could be irritated

1636
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: by the fact that women have to be the one

1637
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 1: suggest Tait and lacktate. You could be irritated by a

1638
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: lot of trip. But taking offense is a is a

1639
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: response that is rejection of reality. So men and women

1640
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: are different on height, they're different on muscle mass, they're

1641
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: different on where fact is deposited on our bodies. Right,

1642
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: our brains are also different. So there's some fine areas security.

1643
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: This is this is what happens until they shut off

1644
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: the violet. Can you hear, can can everybody here? So

1645
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, guys, this is at at at

1646
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: Portland's State University, and it is a it was a forum,

1647
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: a college form, and these things are great, a college

1648
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 1: form where you have people who are supposed to discuss

1649
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: ideological diversity, the diversity of ideas. And this may not

1650
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 1: u come as a shock to you. There are people

1651
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: at Portland State University who do not want to hear

1652
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: about this, who have no interest whatsoever in hearing about things.

1653
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: And even to the point where a and you've got

1654
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: a few different individuals joining together here. You had ex

1655
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Google engineer James Day Moore, um, he was part of

1656
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: this panel. And you had a few other scholars, you know,

1657
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: people that are from Portland State University. And you had

1658
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: evolutionary biologist Heather Heying there among others. So and Peter

1659
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:45,759
Speaker 1: Peter Brigoesian. Now you just heard some pretty straightforward stuff

1660
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 1: about how men and women are biologically physically different, different

1661
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 1: in terms of muscle mass, different in terms of fat deposits,

1662
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: different in terms of a whole bunch of things. And

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01:35:55,840 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: people in attendance weren't just content to go. They actually

1664
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish you could see the video, but

1665
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm just playing the audio for you. They pulled the

1666
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: audio on the way out, like they pulled the plugs

1667
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: out of the speakers and throw a fit as they

1668
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: were leaving, so that they forced they forced the panel

1669
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: to come to a stop. And then what you had

1670
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 1: is these panelists who had to stand up and just

1671
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 1: do what acapella style, and they decided to just keep

1672
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: going with the rest of of their speech. But I

1673
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: don't want to stop it with just they pulled the plugs,

1674
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: literally pull the plug on the speech. Okay, remember men

1675
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: and women are biologically different. That gets people upset. That's

1676
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 1: that's a microaggression. You're not allowed to say that. Every

1677
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: single one of you, sitting, listening, standing, running, wherever you

1678
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: are across the country knows men and women are different.

1679
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 1: You're not in your head like yeah, of course, Buck.

1680
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: That has now become a politically incorrect thing to say.

1681
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 1: This has been going on for a few years now,

1682
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: but but it is now part of the leftist orthodoxy.

1683
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: It is dogma on the left that you are simply

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01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:11,480
Speaker 1: fundamentally not allowed to claim that there are any differences

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01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 1: of any kind between men and women. Rooted in biology.

1686
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 1: How one makes that argument, don't this is this is

1687
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:24,520
Speaker 1: the equivalent of saying, you know, an apple is a banana.

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01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 1: To borrow from CNN, It's not, you know, I call

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01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: this an apple. You call that an apple. No, no,

1690
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 1: an apple is a banana. It is the It is

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01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: forceful falsehood, right. It is so wrong that the purpose

1692
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 1: of it seems to be two force people to agree

1693
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: in the wrongness of it as a as a form

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01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: of intellectual submission. But they they freaked out, and I

1695
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: know it's a brain now. They had a few of them,

1696
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, blue haired anarchists, and they

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01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 1: they left, They pulled the all goodul the stuff, and

1698
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: then they continue to throw a bit of a fit outside.

1699
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: And I just want to share some of these are

1700
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: the These are the folks that are the future of

1701
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: this country. This is the the campus elite, if you will,

1702
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: sharing their thoughts on a whole bunch of stuff. When

1703
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: it comes to diversity. Should not listen to fascism. I

1704
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,680
Speaker 1: should not be tolerated in civil society. Nazis are not

1705
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: welcome in civil society. Alright, Well, we're gonna raise our voices.

1706
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: The conversation is going to go on, all right, let's

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01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:52,959
Speaker 1: let that sort of behavior is unacceptable in civilized societies,

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01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: and if that person is a student, they should be

1709
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: given a warning, and if they do it again, they

1710
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 1: should be expelled from the university. Expelled from the university.

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01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 1: That's where this should be. Now, I would know that

1712
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:16,600
Speaker 1: it's not an overreach at all. That consequences for violating

1713
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:20,839
Speaker 1: the central goal of a college campus should be something

1714
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: that colleges embrace. And to anyone who say that's so harsh,

1715
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 1: you can know they're they're creating a disturbance, They're just

1716
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: they're at least destroying public property, and they are shutting

1717
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: down the right of others to speak. If you were

1718
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: to hand in somebody else's term paper, you could get expelled, right,

1719
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: plagiarism get expelled. It's not a it's not a crime,

1720
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 1: but it's still a violation of academic ethics. What could

1721
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,600
Speaker 1: be a more clear violation of the ethics of the

1722
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: academy than trying to shut down a speech with people

1723
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: who are trying to engage in important ideas of the

1724
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: time in a respectful way. That is the definition of

1725
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: discourse and dialogue. But this is what we are up against.

1726
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Now this is where the left has taken much of

1727
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 1: this country. You heard that guy talking about how this

1728
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:22,799
Speaker 1: is fascism, this is it's fascism. When you have college

1729
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: professors Heather Haying, Brett Weinstein, former Googler, James Daymore, and

1730
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: Peter Rogosian speaking to an audience about what diversity really is,

1731
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 1: that now has become fascism, It has become triggering, to

1732
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: borrow a term from the left. It triggers people, It

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01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: forces their emotional outburst when somebody says that men and

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01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: women are different xx chromosome x y chromosome. You know,

1735
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: I've heard people saying recently that on guns, on guns,

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01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 1: falsehood is excused, and that is true. If you were

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01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 1: on the left and you are anti gun, you can

1738
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 1: say things that are untrue, and it's okay, it's fine

1739
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: as long as it serves the greater purpose. But in

1740
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: some ways it's even worse when you talk about gender

1741
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,600
Speaker 1: and gender identity issues, because it's not that falsehood is excused.

1742
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: They're not saying, oh, it doesn't matter if you say

1743
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 1: clip or magazine. Ban the Second Amendment right, which, by

1744
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: the way, is the thing that I've seen and heard

1745
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: people saying recently. It doesn't matter if you say Clipper magazine.

1746
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you say auto or semi auto.

1747
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: Ban all autos. But wait, autos are banned. Oh, you

1748
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:42,759
Speaker 1: don't care about the children with the gender identity issues.

1749
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: What you see is that falsehood is not excused. Falsehood

1750
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 1: is embraced. It's embraced. Yes, we are going to lie,

1751
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: Yes we're going to tell you things that are not true.

1752
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: The movement rests on lies. The movement rests on the

1753
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 1: opposite of reality. And they just hope that the brainwashing

1754
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: and the political mobilization of the forces of the academy

1755
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,879
Speaker 1: and the media and the Democrat Party and the American

1756
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 1: left will be enough. I we'll spend some time coming

1757
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 1: up in the weeks ahead. When I can. I'll just

1758
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 1: go on some some buck digressions here about how central

1759
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:35,560
Speaker 1: falsehood was to the Soviet system and to communism. And

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01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we're about to have communist country,

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01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: but it's just philosophically, it's important to understand that it

1762
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: wasn't It went from excuse making to the active embrace.

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01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: In fact, the forced embraced embracing falsehood. At the end

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01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 1: of a rifle or with a rifle pointed. Actually that

1765
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: was the Soviet Union. Yeah, you know, this is the

1766
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 1: quota for potatoes. We hit the potato quote. Uh no,

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01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: you didn't. Actually people are starving. Well, this is the

1768
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: quota actually, and yes we did hit it, or else

1769
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 1: you're going to be shot. Guess what A lot of

1770
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: people say, Okay, all the potatoes we need. That's what's

1771
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 1: going on ideologically on college campuses across the country. It's

1772
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 1: also reflected in the media, and it is soon to

1773
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: be reflected in our laws. In fact, I think already

1774
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: you can make the case that there are ways in

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01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 1: which the left mentality about gender identity has manifested itself

1776
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: in law. And while I can look at people screaming

1777
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 1: fascist because a couple of social sciencests are saying men

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01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 1: and women are different, people who literally have PhDs in

1779
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: the subject matter are trying to tell an audience that

1780
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 1: men and women are different. And you have people screaming, disrupting,

1781
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: acting like children. These are adults that are people in

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01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 1: their late twenties from what I can see, and they're

1783
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: upset by this. It bothers them. They don't want to

1784
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 1: be told this. They have embraced some alternate reality. And

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01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: it's not just on gender identity. Where this is the case,

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01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Once truth is a casualty, the casualty

1787
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 1: numbers just rise. Once it doesn't matter anymore what's true

1788
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: and what's false, then anything becomes possible and anything becomes permissible.

1789
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 1: And this is one of the reason why the left

1790
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 1: is so very, very dangerous. Um the momentum of progressivism

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01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,839
Speaker 1: or left leftism in this country always points towards always

1792
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 1: results in tyranny. It can't help, but do that, and

1793
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:40,839
Speaker 1: sure we can make fun of some shrieking, blue haired

1794
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 1: pseudo hippie hipster types who don't think they should have

1795
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 1: to hear any bad things, but understand the political ideology

1796
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 1: they represent is actually quite dangerous and does need to

1797
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: be confronted on the battlefield of ideas. We're gonna get

1798
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: into some roll call coming up. Stay with me. I

1799
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 1: want to tell you about some fun ahead over the weekend.

1800
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: I like to share with you some of my adventures,

1801
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you the truth about it

1802
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 1: as well. Because I thought I was pretty slick, pretty

1803
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:12,719
Speaker 1: cool guy, you know, like I can make things happen.

1804
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 1: I was planning it for some time. Miss Molly and

1805
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: I we're gonna go to the Metropolitan Opera, which is very,

1806
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 1: very fancy. You know, it's a it's a fancy thing.

1807
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: It's a once a year thing for me. You know.

1808
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: I save up, I take the piggy bank, I break

1809
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: the piggy bank. We go to the Metropolitan Opera and

1810
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: I get to go check out one of the most

1811
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, revered cultural institutions of New York City.

1812
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: For for some look, I I love it. Opera is enchanting.

1813
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 1: It is pretty incredible. It is also very long for

1814
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 1: those of you who have not been exposed to it.

1815
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been, but sometimes it

1816
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 1: can run in the neighborhood of three and a half

1817
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 1: hours ish, maybe four, which is a long time. I mean,

1818
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: Brave Heart is three hours plus, but it flies by

1819
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 1: in five minutes because it's the greatest movie of all time.

1820
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 1: But opera, you gotta be into it, and you also

1821
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on because you've got a

1822
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people seeing in a different language. So

1823
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 1: I make my plans with I'm making my plans with

1824
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:18,839
Speaker 1: Miss Molly. Two uh, to go to the opera, and

1825
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: and she's all excited because I've told her she's cooler

1826
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 1: than I am and more in touch with pop culture.

1827
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 1: But I've told her that that the opera we're going

1828
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 1: to see, La bo m is more or less the

1829
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 1: basis for the broad with the hit Broadway musical rent Um,

1830
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: which is true, it's sort of loosely based on or

1831
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 1: loosely derived from. But and so we're talking, and we

1832
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 1: had dinner beforehand, and we're all excited, and we're going,

1833
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm going over the characters from Labo M and and

1834
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: sure enough when we sit down, we managed to get

1835
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,799
Speaker 1: we have great seats and the opera is just wherever

1836
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 1: you are across the country should go to the opera

1837
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 1: telling I'm telling you, don't knock it till you try.

1838
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 1: The operas is pretty cool. Let's saying go every weekend.

1839
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 1: That can be a lot, but it's a it's a

1840
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: real experience. And if you love music, I mean the

1841
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: the pit, the orchestra that they have is philharmonic quality, right,

1842
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 1: so the orchestra is amazing, the music is incredible to

1843
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 1: set the set design um and if you want, if

1844
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: you're ever in New York City, you can actually go

1845
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 1: and get like standing room tickets for a lot of

1846
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: the operas, which, by the way, stay for half of

1847
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: it and you'll be plenty happy. You'll have been there

1848
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 1: for two hours, so you know, stay for an hour

1849
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: and a half. And if you get standing room only

1850
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: the back, I think those tickets are twenty five or

1851
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 1: thirty bucks. Yea, So it's it's it's doable, uh, in

1852
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 1: a in a less expensive way instead of a few

1853
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: hundred bucks, which is what it can run to go

1854
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: to sit in a chair and actually sit for the

1855
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 1: whole thing. Anyway, So I'm there with Ms Molly, and

1856
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty cool. I think this is a

1857
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 1: it's a good date that I've set up. You know,

1858
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some some buck points here, you know,

1859
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 1: for being a good guy, good boyfriend. And she's she's

1860
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 1: all excited. She looks very very pretty, you know, she's

1861
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 1: all dressed up. And I'm excited too. And we've been

1862
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 1: talking about Labom and I know some of the difference

1863
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 1: in arias from Labo M And I'm all excited. That's

1864
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 1: a very it's the most popular opera of all time.

1865
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: It's very accessible, shorter, and you know, if you're gonna

1866
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: go see one, by the way, go see marriage a figure. Oh,

1867
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: go see La bo m. Go see one of one

1868
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: of the ten grades. You know, people love men and butterfly.

1869
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 1: I don't know that one for me wasn't really getting

1870
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: it done anyway. I think it's a lot that the

1871
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 1: curtain goes up and all of a sudden, I'm like,

1872
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 1: this isn't eighteen thirties Paris. What's going on here? Like,

1873
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:38,959
Speaker 1: I don't understand. There are tombs like out of ancient Egypt.

1874
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: There dudes standing around with swords. There's like some kind

1875
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 1: of high priest with a scepter. I'm like, whoa Limrae

1876
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 1: district in Paris just got freaky, Like this is not

1877
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: what I you know, I'm always looking at me like

1878
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 1: what the heck is this because we're sitting there. Have

1879
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 1: you ever had the thing where you walk into a

1880
01:48:55,960 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: movie and and it's actually not the movie you think

1881
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: it is, and but for the first minute you're like, well,

1882
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: I guess, like I thought it was a movie about

1883
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: combat pilots. But maybe that movie starts out with like, uh,

1884
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of people, you know, at a

1885
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 1: bar doing shots, playing rock and roll I mean, you know,

1886
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of convince yourself. So I have

1887
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 1: that going on with this opera. I'm sitting there and

1888
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, somehow, maybe it's like a retro thing

1889
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: where it's Labo M but in eight hundred BC. Maybe.

1890
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 1: But no, no, I had actually book tickets to the

1891
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 1: wrong opera. I had book tickets to go see and

1892
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know this because the the matinee was Labo M.

1893
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: So I'm not crazy. I just assumed when I booked

1894
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 1: tickets for the later show, because I didn't read the

1895
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 1: fine print or the print that I was gonna go

1896
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: see Labo. I'm sure it was Semi Ramada, which is

1897
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 1: some people. I think we'd call it the last of

1898
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 1: the great Baroque operas. EIGHTI is long, and it's one

1899
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 1: of those opera situations where it's like our Sace is

1900
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: vying for the queen's hand, but Azure wants the queen's

1901
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 1: daughter's hand, but it's pretending to want the queen's hand

1902
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 1: because Azure was part of getting rid of the king.

1903
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: But then Arsace is actually the son of the queen

1904
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 1: and the king and the uncle. And I'm sitting there

1905
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to show Ms Molly the program. I'm

1906
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 1: not trying to disturb anybody. I'm shining my little light

1907
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: on her. For a second, I realized I can't do that.

1908
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 1: She's looking at me like, what the heck am I watching? This?

1909
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: Is like King tut and I you know, I look.

1910
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,600
Speaker 1: We leaned into it, and we fortunately were able to

1911
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: catch ourselves at the breakpoint. Um, we were able to

1912
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 1: catch ourselves at intermission. Breakpoint. Gosh, sounds like a savage

1913
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 1: at the intermission when I had a chocolate soufla. That's right,

1914
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 1: I felt bougie. I wanted to do it, so I

1915
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: had a chocolate soufla at intermission, because they can do

1916
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 1: that sort of thing at the opera. Have it waiting

1917
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: for you even I know, I know I should just

1918
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 1: I should punch myself. But we were able to catch

1919
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 1: up a little bit with the plot afterwards, and sure enough,

1920
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 1: you know, the the dead king is avenged and the

1921
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 1: good guy beats the bad guy, but the girl dies,

1922
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 1: but the good guy. And opera plots, if you think that, like, uh,

1923
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: some of those telenovelas can get complicated. Opera plots put

1924
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 1: all that stuff to shame. Man, it was it was

1925
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 1: a thing. So yeah, Semi Ramda based on the Voltaire

1926
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 1: based on Voltaire Voltaire's work semi Ramas, which was about

1927
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: a Babylonian Babylonian succession struggle with the Queen. Semi Ramda.

1928
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, we were in it. We're rocking out

1929
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 1: in ancient Babylon Saturday night. Didn't know it. I thought

1930
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna be hanging out in eighteen thirties Paris with

1931
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:40,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of bohemians. But you know, life's crazy, my friends,

1932
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 1: Things happen. You gotta adapt, gotta be ready for it.

1933
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 1: So with that, I'll just tell you go check out

1934
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: the opera. It's worth it at some points wherever you are,

1935
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: if you can go, do it. And I'm sorry I've

1936
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 1: skipped over roll call, but I promise you will do

1937
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 1: it tomorrow and we'll hear from all of you until then.

1938
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 1: My friends, colleagues, patriots, fellow freed mut dwellers, Shields high