Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has a new home, going from the Titans
Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2: The quarterback the Vikings brought in after Kirk Cousins headed
Speaker 2: to Atlanta.
Speaker 3: It is Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones becomes just the latest former Packers star to
Speaker 1: cross the border to Minnesota.
Speaker 4: The Bengals all are moving on from Joe Mixon, but
Speaker 4: they are instead of releasing him and making him a
Speaker 4: free agent, trading him to the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2: It is Zach Moss headed to Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: Darnell Mooney, the former Bears receiver, has agreed to terms
Speaker 4: with the Atlanta Falcon to become a key new weapon
Speaker 4: for Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3: Day two.
Speaker 1: Of the legal tampering period. Maybe we need to get
Speaker 1: a new name for that. I know the league's trying
Speaker 1: to push back on it.
Speaker 5: It feels very technical because we know the league year
Speaker 5: is tomorrow.
Speaker 6: There's no tampering. And this makes Andrew Ciciliano very mad.
Speaker 6: If you even say those words, no one should those words.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Ciciliana is also out here television NFL Network yesterday saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you cannot dip chicken wings in any type of white
Speaker 1: song like.
Speaker 7: What he's got, the platform he's allowed to espouse his
Speaker 7: his views on all topics.
Speaker 5: That's dangerous. Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, from the Chris Westling podcast studio, it's around the NFL.
Speaker 1: Dan Hands is here with Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. You've
Speaker 1: already heard from all of us. We are probably going
Speaker 1: a little nuts like the Insiders during these long days
Speaker 1: and long nights. And now we are back in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: We touched down here about an hour ago on a
Speaker 1: plane and I would love to say we were put
Speaker 1: into like a almost like a motorcade and taken straight here,
Speaker 1: but it was a mad scramble finding a cab, get
Speaker 1: us in the building. And yet we're here now to
Speaker 1: give you the latest on the league. And I would
Speaker 1: say again, another show coming off a wikily disappointing award
Speaker 1: show that we're gonna get.
Speaker 3: To later in the pot. Well, yeah, that's spoiler that
Speaker 3: we're here.
Speaker 5: We're here, We.
Speaker 7: Don't we don't need accolades. We need to go on
Speaker 7: you to work, that's all we're asking you. And for
Speaker 7: those that think that we've gotten a little too big
Speaker 7: for our breeches, like I am an hour and a
Speaker 7: half removed from sitting in the very back row of
Speaker 7: the plane where at all hours someone's hips are hitting
Speaker 7: my ears and my head as they attempt to go
Speaker 7: into the lavatory. So like like that, does it sound
Speaker 7: like someone that just cares about status and you know material?
Speaker 6: I mean, it's always we use the word heroes. But
Speaker 6: you know, just a little wink, maybe it's a little
Speaker 6: uh big for yourself twist today. It's true though, for
Speaker 6: us to get off that plane straight from Austin and
Speaker 6: get back into the coal mine.
Speaker 3: The news mine's.
Speaker 1: True and it's it's it's funny and I think telling
Speaker 1: and I don't mind telling the audiences because iHeartRadio and
Speaker 1: it was the iHeart Podcast Awards. They they were nice
Speaker 1: enough to send us down to Texas. We go down
Speaker 1: first class, first class. Baby Daddy's sitting there with the
Speaker 1: Miller light, enjoying myself, plenty of room. The guy from
Speaker 1: Workaholics with the curly hair is sitting.
Speaker 5: In front of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, took a selfie with him. Everything is Everything's hunky, Dorry.
Speaker 1: I think there was something symbolic about going to Texas
Speaker 1: first class, and then on the way to the award show,
Speaker 1: and then a day after being pitiful losers in them
Speaker 1: and spoiler alert, we'll talk about it later. Riding back
Speaker 1: and coach by the toilets. I think there was something
Speaker 1: there to dig into as well.
Speaker 7: I think, you know, seeking humility matters as you gain
Speaker 7: in age, and that's certainly we discovered it today on
Speaker 7: the way back.
Speaker 1: All right, so much to get to So did you
Speaker 1: have to deal with it? Because I was a couple
Speaker 1: rows ahead of you, You have to deal with any
Speaker 1: of those people just standing like waiting to like I said,
Speaker 1: like uppering over you.
Speaker 7: You know this these aircraft has gotten smaller and smaller
Speaker 7: and people's hips haven't gotten smaller. So I was like
Speaker 7: literally was like, you know, sleeping during for the first
Speaker 7: time ever on most of this flight, but kept getting
Speaker 7: jarred awake by like the side of someone's hip, mostly
Speaker 7: typically women's hips, just smashing me in the in the.
Speaker 1: Ear Why women's why why do you toil? That's just
Speaker 1: called like the like biology, Like it's just like in
Speaker 1: the I feel bad for them, you know, they're just
Speaker 1: trying to do what they're trying to do.
Speaker 7: And then but I'm also feeling bad for myself. It
Speaker 7: is like I'm in the aisle seat you know, you
Speaker 7: lean left a little bit and you get banged in
Speaker 7: the ear.
Speaker 6: Did not expect like an Americans are turning into a
Speaker 6: bunch of fatties. Take from Matt Mark. But there you go, Matt,
Speaker 6: I don't know crazy, all right.
Speaker 5: Strike that from the show. Let's let's let's dig in.
Speaker 1: Let's dig into everything that's happening, and let's start with
Speaker 1: the big news. I would say, like and hit this
Speaker 1: out round of applause, drop because we saw the Derreck
Speaker 1: Henry the Ravens thing coming.
Speaker 5: But that that feels well, I'll.
Speaker 1: Give it to us anyway, just get it, because everybody
Speaker 1: seemed to feel like that was coming, and then of
Speaker 1: course it did happen. Derrick Henry, who will be going
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame one day, and barring some
Speaker 1: remarkable late period, you don't think he's.
Speaker 5: Going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: I just don't like it when people just put people
Speaker 6: in the Hall of Fame. I think he'll be at this.
Speaker 5: I bet you like when certain people do. You just
Speaker 5: don't like that. I did it.
Speaker 7: Justin Graver tweeted today that he believes he'll be a
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: He is, and we talk about Hall of Fame Gregory,
Speaker 1: we talked about Canton or any sport, like you can't
Speaker 1: tell the story of the league without talking about a
Speaker 1: player at his position like Derrick Henry.
Speaker 5: I think is one of the faces of the running
Speaker 5: back position in the last year.
Speaker 7: Especially in this era, to do what he's done in
Speaker 7: this era of like running back by committee.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's just I've heard the guys like who have
Speaker 6: the votes, their backs always just go up when you
Speaker 6: say when you're just putting them into the All Fame.
Speaker 6: You know that's on the one All Pro first team,
Speaker 6: a couple second teams. I would probably vote for him,
Speaker 6: but I'm saying he's not going to be like a
Speaker 6: rubber stamp.
Speaker 3: He's all right.
Speaker 1: How about we have a couple of big years in
Speaker 1: Baltimore and it won't be a debate because Derek Henry
Speaker 1: is now joining the Ravens two year deal worth up
Speaker 1: to twenty million, So there's nine million guaranteed in his
Speaker 1: first season with Baltimore and that might be all.
Speaker 5: He gets guaranteed.
Speaker 1: And if it seems like the money's bigger for the
Speaker 1: running backs this year, I read again, I'll quote him
Speaker 1: all the time, so I read them all the time,
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell, the running backs are getting good money, but
Speaker 1: the salary cap went up, then running backs are actually
Speaker 1: get it. They're they're commanding less of the salary cap
Speaker 1: for these teams percentage wise than ever before. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money flying around the league now
Speaker 1: because of the cap keeps on going upward.
Speaker 5: I would love to know.
Speaker 1: Let's put Eric to work early, Eric, what was the
Speaker 1: NFL salary cap in the twenty ten season when Mark
Speaker 1: and I started at the company.
Speaker 6: Can I get a guess too? Yeah, well take a guess, no, Eric,
Speaker 6: go first, right now?
Speaker 5: What is it too? Twenty?
Speaker 3: No, it's to fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: See it's up there, all right?
Speaker 1: So so yes, I got it already, I said, quick
Speaker 1: Google search.
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna guess.
Speaker 5: I was asking him to look at it. Why don't
Speaker 5: you guess?
Speaker 3: Greg, Go ahead, I'm gonna go one twelve.
Speaker 5: That sounds about right.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go forty two. So you
Speaker 3: said twenty ten? Correct?
Speaker 5: Yes, So first answer.
Speaker 8: With the owners deciding to exit the CBA in March
Speaker 8: twenty eleven, the twenty ten season had no salary cap.
Speaker 3: Wow, the wait I was close.
Speaker 5: Well, then pick a year close, Holly, it was.
Speaker 8: Zero and I said forty cap in two thousand and
Speaker 8: nine to start the show over one hundred and twenty
Speaker 8: three million.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 5: So I got it, I said one twenty.
Speaker 3: So did he really the dub?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty good. All right, let's see, I gave
Speaker 6: you a nice ballpark. That was nice and got what's
Speaker 6: going in the right direction. But so anyway, that's all
Speaker 6: beside the point.
Speaker 1: The point is that Derek Henry is a member of
Speaker 1: the Ravens Now and everyone is talking up and rightfully
Speaker 1: so marked this idea that the reigning MVP Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: is explosive ability as an athlete, and now you add
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry to that mix and all that does make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense.
Speaker 5: I'll call you just a little bit.
Speaker 1: I would I feel like I'd be a little more like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the league is in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1: If this was twenty twenty Derek Henry in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. They are a little bit different players and
Speaker 1: entering twenty four, but still an imposing duo and a
Speaker 1: move that makes so much sense for Baltimore.
Speaker 5: I love the fit.
Speaker 7: I mean, we already we've exclaimed that we wanted this
Speaker 7: to happen, and it's to me, it's about the player.
Speaker 7: It's like because lesser backs or you know, average to
Speaker 7: better than average backs have thrived in that system, whether
Speaker 7: it was the past Greg Roman offense or even this year.
Speaker 7: And I think when you add Derrick Henry to an
Speaker 7: attack where if you're a defender or defensive coordinator, you've
Speaker 7: got the one quarterback in the league more than any
Speaker 7: other running quarterback outside of Josh Allen, that you need
Speaker 7: to be hyper aware of where Lamar Jackson is on
Speaker 7: terra firm at all times. And now you add Derrick
Speaker 7: Henry to the mix, it's like a double headache. And
Speaker 7: I guess part of it is like, I don't believe
Speaker 7: that Dereck Henry is going to fade come October November.
Speaker 5: I believe he's got another year or two in him.
Speaker 7: And I think that makes the Ravens about as hyper
Speaker 7: dangerous as they've been in the Lamar Jackson era.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: You can use your rush yards over expected, you can
Speaker 6: use your broken tackles, all these fancy stats. I sometimes
Speaker 6: use my eyeballs. It tells me Dereck Henry still running well.
Speaker 6: Thought it ran well last year. I thought he ran
Speaker 6: better than his numbers would show on a per carry basis,
Speaker 6: although he's still a workhorse. Still two underd Nady carries
Speaker 6: was second in the league in yards, so he can
Speaker 6: still get it done. And when I think of the
Speaker 6: Ravens offense, you said it well, Mark, it's such a
Speaker 6: great place to be for a running back, especially in
Speaker 6: the red zone. I mean, all you gotta do is
Speaker 6: be a Gus Edwards owner in fantasy leagues and know
Speaker 6: when the ball is handed off to Gus Edwards in
Speaker 6: the red zone, it he usually just like walks into.
Speaker 3: The end zone. No one's really around that.
Speaker 6: Now you have Dereck Henry being the one that gets
Speaker 6: the ball, and the Ravens are so good at this,
Speaker 6: the running back market goes crazy. They just kind of
Speaker 6: sit there. They clearly had a price for Dereck Henry,
Speaker 6: they weren't going to go above it. And somehow Derrick
Speaker 6: Henry signs for like way less money than DeAndre Swift
Speaker 6: and not that much more than like Antonio Gibson and
Speaker 6: Singletary or Pollard, and like significantly less this year than
Speaker 6: Josh Jacobs. I don't quite get how that all worked out,
Speaker 6: because to me, running backs are year to year anyways,
Speaker 6: all these guys are, and I'd rather have Henry than
Speaker 6: any of those guys I just mentioned.
Speaker 1: Well, let's I'm guessing maybe of age and tread on tires,
Speaker 1: and he's not.
Speaker 3: A third down guy all the time. But he's a receiver.
Speaker 3: You know, I gotten good at that screen game.
Speaker 5: I mean, you threw a touchdown against the Ravens in
Speaker 5: the playoffs. You can throw the football.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's always I think he's got better as a receiver,
Speaker 6: certainly over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I would guess a lot of teams, whether it's smart
Speaker 1: or not, are scared off by a guy that is
Speaker 1: entering his age thirty season. Just turned thirty in January
Speaker 1: and has over two thousand rushes in his career. I
Speaker 1: remember when he came into the league and much was
Speaker 1: made about how because of Alabama's embarrassment of riches, he
Speaker 1: didn't get used a ton in college in terms of workload.
Speaker 1: But he's certainly been a bell cow guy for many
Speaker 1: years now. So we'll see how much they can get
Speaker 1: out of him, and if he does have a vintage
Speaker 1: type season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is scary.
Speaker 1: And to your point about goal line and the way
Speaker 1: it was for Gus the bus, like maybe Lamar becomes
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a threat running now that
Speaker 1: they have.
Speaker 3: This, like you know, great, I think so.
Speaker 5: I think. I think it's got Lamar's a winner in
Speaker 5: this absolutely.
Speaker 6: And you got Patrick Riccard their their fullback, who is
Speaker 6: pretty dynamic and gotten into the mix there. They had
Speaker 6: an interesting offense.
Speaker 5: We bring up Keaton Mitchell by the way.
Speaker 6: Keaton Mitchell's coming out, I mean, he was incredible. He's
Speaker 6: coming off a major injury. That was a spice rack
Speaker 6: special Keaton Mitchell. I don't think he actually said it
Speaker 6: on the show, so it doesn't really care. But I
Speaker 6: don't think we had him. And then he was texting
Speaker 6: it he had he had receipts. I remember he was
Speaker 6: very excited about. Right, there's a paper trick, Keaton Mitchell.
Speaker 6: And they're a very creative running game. It's very different
Speaker 6: than when Greg Roman was there, but very creative mauling.
Speaker 6: And I just like when teams lean into having a personality.
Speaker 6: It's one of the reasons why the NFL is so great,
Speaker 6: and it's why you guys were on top of it
Speaker 6: at this made so much sense.
Speaker 3: It was such a Ravens move.
Speaker 6: It makes me more excited for whatever primetime game they
Speaker 6: put the Ravens in right off the top of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, feel very good about the Ravens, barring catastroph catastrophic injury,
Speaker 1: being near the top of the AFC. And then it
Speaker 1: becomes once again, now what do we do? How do
Speaker 1: we take that step? And maybe Henry is a big
Speaker 1: part of taking that next step once you get to
Speaker 1: January football all right. By the way, the offensive line
Speaker 1: of the Ravens graded out number six overall per PFF
Speaker 1: last year, so he's Henry's also going into a much
Speaker 1: better situation there as well.
Speaker 5: Brian Burns.
Speaker 1: We mentioned it off handedly at the end of the
Speaker 1: show that there was something percolating out there with some
Speaker 1: reporting around the edge rusher from Carolina and a potential
Speaker 1: move to the Giants, and it has indeed gone down.
Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reported that they make the trade, so Burns
Speaker 1: goes to the Giants in exchange for second and fifth
Speaker 1: round picks. Of course, eyebrows shoot up because Burns famously
Speaker 1: was a target of the Rams, who were reportedly looking
Speaker 1: to give up two first rounders or willing to give
Speaker 1: up two first rounders to get Burns.
Speaker 3: I believe it was last year or the year before
Speaker 3: while they were falling apart, and.
Speaker 1: The management at the time for the Carolina Panthers said
Speaker 1: no thanks.
Speaker 5: So it's a bad look obviously.
Speaker 1: I know it's leadership changes, but organizationally, it's a terrible look.
Speaker 5: So it goes from two first to a second and
Speaker 5: a fifth.
Speaker 1: And of course the Giants then turn around and give
Speaker 1: Burns a big new contract, a five year extension worth
Speaker 1: a maximum one hundred and fifty million, almost eighty eight
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. So Greg he's the second highest paid ed
Speaker 1: rusher in the edge rusher in the league. He's twenty
Speaker 1: six years old. I have to say this about Burns.
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys you always hear about, and
Speaker 1: he's and this is part he's playing in Charlotte, which
Speaker 1: is the black hole right now. Is he as good
Speaker 1: as you kind of hear? Is he as good as
Speaker 1: they say? Is he worthy of that type of money
Speaker 1: when it comes to edge rushers in football?
Speaker 6: I think he has been, but not last year quite
Speaker 6: as much. And so he was coming off of an injury,
Speaker 6: and his numbers were still good and he graded out
Speaker 6: pretty well. Wasn't like it was a bad year. But
Speaker 6: to me, coming off that injury, he wasn't exactly the
Speaker 6: same player before that. Yeah, I would say he's a
Speaker 6: top ten edg rusher. Now he's probably at the bottom
Speaker 6: end of that ten, but I'd rather have him then.
Speaker 6: Let's say Daniel Hunter, who was in this market, and
Speaker 6: he's so young, and he's so quick off the ball.
Speaker 6: He always rates really well in those stats of like
Speaker 6: pressure within two and a half seconds, and he's been
Speaker 6: in a spot where he's always been the man getting
Speaker 6: a lot of the attention on a team that's not
Speaker 6: often trailing, so he gets like less opportunities than everything,
Speaker 6: and just very dynamic. And I don't think you can
Speaker 6: get a pass rusher this good for any cheaper than this.
Speaker 6: So I think it's a good move for the Giants,
Speaker 6: and the Panthers just weren't ready to give him that money.
Speaker 3: I don't know it.
Speaker 6: On some level, I'm almost confused, because you do need
Speaker 6: good players no matter what stage of your rebuild you're in.
Speaker 7: If you're the Panthers, well and and and you know
Speaker 7: understandably Panthers fans, you know, famous ones and and civilians
Speaker 7: are going absolutely nuts over this famous one. There's a
Speaker 7: country singer that had like this gigantic tweet about it
Speaker 7: was like, is this is this organization just you know,
Speaker 7: trying to set itself on fire essentially? But I mean,
Speaker 7: I think if you're the Giants, because a day ago
Speaker 7: it's all about you. Let's say you botch Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 7: You let him go and he went to your rival,
Speaker 7: and it's like a bad look for the Giants, who
Speaker 7: also lost Xavier McKinney. But I would say that overall,
Speaker 7: when you look at what they the value they got
Speaker 7: Brian Burns for, which is a Koude talk, compared to
Speaker 7: what the Rams were going to spend. They added John
Speaker 7: Runyon along the line, Jermaine and mel and you Melanor
Speaker 7: and and I don't love Devin Singletary, but to patch
Speaker 7: up Saquon like they had a pretty good day like
Speaker 7: they are addressing. I think Joe Shane is a quality
Speaker 7: GM You're.
Speaker 3: Blocks in the building as Daniel Jones's backup.
Speaker 7: Well, to me, it's pretty clear that they're they're open
Speaker 7: to maybe drafting someone too. But like I just think
Speaker 7: that the Giants like it's not as big of a
Speaker 7: tire fire as it appeared to be twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why with free agency, everybody's got chill day one.
Speaker 5: Everyone wants your team to go totally nuts.
Speaker 1: You just got to let it play out and see
Speaker 1: where things stand at the end of the week. Also
Speaker 1: from the Office of Corrections, we got a Van Ginkle edit.
Speaker 5: Yeah we did. I'm just I'm gonna move out of
Speaker 5: the way and you guys could discuss.
Speaker 6: Well, that was on me. I put him under the Giants.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if that was even ever a report
Speaker 6: or just my mistake. Throughout the day, it was always
Speaker 6: on that rundown. Van Ginkle's not on the Giants. I mean,
Speaker 6: if the only source you have of news in the
Speaker 6: NFL is the Around the NFL podcast, and you're a
Speaker 6: Giants fan and you just made like your own Van
Speaker 6: Ginkle jersey or posters, who knows at home, I have
Speaker 6: bad news for you he's a member, then.
Speaker 1: Can I just say also, like I was surprised because
Speaker 1: all we've been hearing on this program is infatuation with
Speaker 1: the Van Gankle. You would think that would not miss
Speaker 1: your radar, Mark that you don't want to tell.
Speaker 3: What I am the one that put it down.
Speaker 5: I piggybacked off of.
Speaker 1: But Mark was supposed to be the safety net with
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 7: In my notes, I said, it makes sense that he
Speaker 7: repairs with Brian Flores, and then I was like, well,
Speaker 7: I must be wrong because he's all the giants And
Speaker 7: it's like, no, he went back to pair with Brian Flores,
Speaker 7: the Vikings defensive coordinator. Right, And it doesn't it doesn't, like,
Speaker 7: you know, decrease my belief in Van Ginkled.
Speaker 5: The fact that we made a podcaster.
Speaker 6: No, if anything, it's even it's a better fit for
Speaker 6: him in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I like what It shook me a little bit, right.
Speaker 7: But a true but a true, a true sports show
Speaker 7: of the year would take a minute to you know,
Speaker 7: say on us.
Speaker 6: Well, they maybe wouldn't have made that mistake. Although I
Speaker 6: think that's possible. I honestly can't remember in twelve years
Speaker 6: of doing this podcast where we had to come back
Speaker 6: the next day and we got a free agent signing
Speaker 6: just completely offset.
Speaker 5: It's pretty good.
Speaker 3: So that that's a first I do before we go.
Speaker 5: Shannon Sharp has never made an error when he speaks,
Speaker 5: that's true.
Speaker 3: Good for him, I do. I'm just short clicking, you know.
Speaker 6: One, Congrats to as Mark mentioned, Jermaine Luminor, who's like
Speaker 6: a close a friend of our friend, Henry Hodson, product
Speaker 6: of the International Player Pathway at age twenty nine, just
Speaker 6: got life changing money two years, fourteen million dollars after
Speaker 6: he's kind of bounced around in the league. And what
Speaker 6: a great moment for him. But I wanted to read
Speaker 6: this tweet. It was from Scott Barrett on Twitter of
Speaker 6: just if you combine the Brian's Burns, Bryce Young, and
Speaker 6: Christian McCaffrey trades for what the Panthers got and what
Speaker 6: they gave up, and this includes the trade they essentially
Speaker 6: didn't make with the Rams, which is, you know, kind
Speaker 6: of cheating, but it does make it fun. Here's what
Speaker 6: the Panthers traded Caleb Williams, assuming that's the number one
Speaker 6: overall Pickture covers or the number one over our pick
Speaker 6: Kristin McCaffrey DJ Moore, a top ten pick in the
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three draft. That was the Rams pick the
Speaker 6: Bears drafted to Tackle, a second round pick in the
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three draft, a first round pick in the
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four draft and a first round pick in
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 3: That's what they passed on. Here is what they got.
Speaker 6: Oh No, Bryce Young, one year of Brian Burns, a
Speaker 6: defensive a linebacker by the name of DJ Johnson who
Speaker 6: was ranked one hundred and twenty fifth at the edge
Speaker 6: position by PFF last year, promising in two fifth round picks.
Speaker 3: I mean that's an all timer.
Speaker 6: That's I mean, that is the series of moves. And
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, it's not all the same guy. It's like,
Speaker 6: it's your organization. That is a series of moves. As
Speaker 6: catastrophic as I can.
Speaker 7: I could flip it and say they're a very charitable organization.
Speaker 7: They give to others.
Speaker 1: And I think, as always Luke Colmbs has his finger
Speaker 1: on the pulse because he was the first one to
Speaker 1: point out twenty two hours ago, no first round pick
Speaker 1: for McCaffrey a few years back and now none for Burns.
Speaker 3: Are we just fire bombing the whole team here?
Speaker 1: Or what?
Speaker 5: Right? Colembs is right? I like that tweet.
Speaker 3: I think he's not familiar.
Speaker 1: With Combs's catalog, but I know he's enormously popular.
Speaker 6: It is the thirty seventh overall pick in this draft.
Speaker 6: You know it's close to being the first rounder. It's
Speaker 6: a long road for these all right.
Speaker 7: Anyway, somewhere Scott Fitter is driving around like in a
Speaker 7: cream colored Porsche down in the South.
Speaker 5: It's like you buried one of the thirty.
Speaker 3: I'm Daniel Jones. By the way, Drew Locke is.
Speaker 6: It's like a medium result of what could have happened
Speaker 6: this offseason for your backup. They gave him five million
Speaker 6: dollars guaranteed, which tells me, like, he'll he'll play if
Speaker 6: you if you're not playing well, Daniel Jones', you're not
Speaker 6: ready Drew Lock.
Speaker 1: If I'm starting quarterback in the NFL and they signed
Speaker 1: Drew Lock as my backup, I'm not losing sleep, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean Drew Lock.
Speaker 3: I think Mark's right. They maybe draft someone too, but
Speaker 3: maybe if.
Speaker 5: You have what are you like? Where are we going
Speaker 5: about Lock?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: In other news, the Cincinnati Bengals and the Joe Mixon marriage.
Speaker 5: Is over NFL networks.
Speaker 1: He Rapp Report reports that Mix and Who Diego was
Speaker 1: believed that he was going to be waived. Instead, they
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger on a trade so they send him
Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans, so his eighth season in football
Speaker 1: will be with Houston. Of Course, the Texans, as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: lost Devin Singletary to the Giants in free agency. Mixon
Speaker 1: joins Damian Pierce in that backfield now, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what we get from mixing mark. On paper, it looks
Speaker 1: like a nice upgrade for the Texans. He had over
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards last year, twelve touchdowns. In general, looked
Speaker 1: like a guy that had been trending downward and then
Speaker 1: said no, I'm not done yet.
Speaker 5: So it's weird that.
Speaker 1: This is when he gets cut but or let go
Speaker 1: by Cincinnati, but Houston takes on the former pro bowler.
Speaker 7: It's not obviously not great news for Damian Pierce. They struggled,
Speaker 7: He and the rest of that team struggled to run
Speaker 7: the ball inside an attack that was so promising through
Speaker 7: the air. So I think it's a good landing spot
Speaker 7: for Mixon to come in and upgrade. It leaves me
Speaker 7: wondering a little bit about the Bengals because we've got
Speaker 7: a lot of moving parts in Cincinnati for a team
Speaker 7: that offensively was sitting in a Super Bowl window, and
Speaker 7: it's like we're looking at wide receivers exiting stage left.
Speaker 7: They signed Zach Moss on a two year, eight million
Speaker 7: dollar deal to essentially replace Joe Mixon. I think Moss
Speaker 7: actually looked really good in Indianapolis at stretches last season,
Speaker 7: but that's the first season I really felt that way
Speaker 7: about him at all.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm fine with that move for the Bengals.
Speaker 6: I think they were clearly surprised that anyone wanted to
Speaker 6: trade for Mixon because it was announced as a release.
Speaker 7: You thought he was gonna get cut last off season, right,
Speaker 7: and it was.
Speaker 1: Fourteen hundred yards and twelve touchdowns. It is not the
Speaker 1: work of a bad running back.
Speaker 3: No, not bad.
Speaker 6: And the text, Look, they know Bobby slowk and Tamiko Ryans.
Speaker 6: They know more than I do about what they want
Speaker 6: in their running back. I thought he came out of
Speaker 6: the gates looking very fresh and like, oh, the old
Speaker 6: Joe Mixon's back, and then as the season were on,
Speaker 6: that burst isn't there. I always loved Joe Mixon as
Speaker 6: a as in terms of his running style, well, you know,
Speaker 6: he came out of college and had that questionable background
Speaker 6: and end up having a nice career with the Bengals,
Speaker 6: but I think his best days are behind him. And
Speaker 6: my guess is they would draft someone too, but it's
Speaker 6: not a it's not a great running back class. So
Speaker 6: you pair mix In probably with like a third round pick,
Speaker 6: and Pierce is probably in the rear. There's always one
Speaker 6: of those every year, by the way, where like someone
Speaker 6: gets announced as a release and someone's watching Free Age
Speaker 6: Frenzy at home and Nick Casiro's like, I'd give up
Speaker 6: a seventh throws and for Mixing, I don't I like
Speaker 6: that contract.
Speaker 1: It's fine still just twenty seven years old. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's been around for a while now, and we'll see
Speaker 1: if he could still play the guitar.
Speaker 6: You know, Stone's a big pick up for them too.
Speaker 6: You know, he's making more than any of these other
Speaker 6: guys they signed.
Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson tweeted Gino Stone instead essentially, you're gone, You're dead.
Speaker 3: You're dead.
Speaker 5: There's been a lot of that going on.
Speaker 1: With these but remember we have the conversation about you
Speaker 1: got to be careful, like when your buddy breaks up
Speaker 1: with his girlfriend and you bury her and then they
Speaker 1: get back together, Like what happens if that would have
Speaker 1: fallen through and Gino's coming back.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 1: It was Lamar just basically said you know, I hate you, right,
Speaker 1: we don't advise. I think it was tongue in cheek
Speaker 1: and serious. Also possibly dead serious. We don't know. While
Speaker 1: we're on the Texas just quickly. I do like their
Speaker 1: moves lately.
Speaker 6: They've been raiding the Titans, which is gonna be annoying,
Speaker 6: uh Titans fans. As these alsha Here Denico Autry. I
Speaker 6: really like the alsha Here signing because he was with
Speaker 6: Demiko Ryans in San Francisco. I think he's He's really
Speaker 6: good and could have a like sneaky Pro Bowl type
Speaker 6: season with the Texans.
Speaker 3: They also re signed Noah.
Speaker 7: Brown also, like, know what you're gonna get with Tanko Autry.
Speaker 7: You know it's gonna be productions good, It's gonna work.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of people are gonna be picking
Speaker 1: the Texans to win that division.
Speaker 6: Sneaky, like financially h exciting career from Deniko Autry. He's
Speaker 6: probably signed about six exciting.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like you don't like you think of
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Financially active or or actually exciting, I mean exciting, ye way,
Speaker 1: to describe.
Speaker 6: It, prisky, I mean, my brain is just so off
Speaker 6: right now. But financially lucrative, I guess, you know, adventurous.
Speaker 6: He just keeps signing these like twelve million dollar contracts
Speaker 6: like every other you know, he's getting it done at
Speaker 6: age thirty. Breaking news, whoa going on here? Breaking news?
Speaker 6: The Texans and Daneil Hunter are in business. The Pell
Speaker 6: Raiser reports that the four time Pro Bowl defensive end
Speaker 6: is signing with Houston.
Speaker 5: Wow credit credits rap sheet as well.
Speaker 1: That's the same Hunter coming off a big year in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: He has eighty seven and a half career sacks, and
Speaker 1: he immediately fills the void left by Jonathan Grenard who
Speaker 1: left for the Viking Vikings day earlier. That's a that's
Speaker 1: a that's a nice plug of a hole there in
Speaker 1: quick manner.
Speaker 6: Interesting, They just they've chose him over Grenard, who's you know,
Speaker 6: he's three or four years older. He's certainly been a
Speaker 6: better player overall than Grenard in his career year he's
Speaker 6: you know, three four years older, two years, but they're
Speaker 6: paying him more than Grenard is making two two years,
Speaker 6: forty nine million with forty eight million guaranteed. We haven't
Speaker 6: seen many deals like that, that short and that big,
Speaker 6: but it's kind of perfect in this c J. Stroud
Speaker 6: has a low contract and they have all sorts of
Speaker 6: cap space, so he'll be back off the books before
Speaker 6: they even need to really worry about their cap space.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have minded them hanging around with Grenard, who,
Speaker 7: like I think, showed so much promise. But if he's departed,
Speaker 7: you've gone and found someone to pair with Will Anderson.
Speaker 7: And like these teams to try to get by with
Speaker 7: one monster pass rusher, it's like you're always going to
Speaker 7: be seeing that guy get double on triple team. And
Speaker 7: it's like right now, like this trend of getting two
Speaker 7: dudes they can kind of free up each other in
Speaker 7: the inside of well, I love it.
Speaker 3: I mean with.
Speaker 7: Wilkins defense yesterday, the Raiders coaching staff gets like everyone
Speaker 7: on that defense to play.
Speaker 5: It's kind of niners like Ryan Burns on Thibodeau.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's to be able to pair two studs cause
Speaker 1: there's a lot of trouble for a post team.
Speaker 6: They're going to be such a trendy pick. But it's like, oh,
Speaker 6: it all makes sense.
Speaker 5: C J.
Speaker 6: Stroud's their their quarterback, and you look at their defensive
Speaker 6: line right now. They added fully Fatsukasi, they added Autry,
Speaker 6: and now they add Hunter along with Anderson. I had
Speaker 6: mentioned I love the Alisha here signing like Demico Ryans
Speaker 6: got as far as they did without really a great defense.
Speaker 6: I think they were kind of an opportunistic defense and
Speaker 6: now they have a chance to step it.
Speaker 3: Up while cj'sdrug gets better.
Speaker 6: That that is something a little challenge trade, though not
Speaker 6: exactly a trade. But Vikings say we'll take your guy.
Speaker 6: Texans says we'll take your guy.
Speaker 5: It's kind of interesting to think about it.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the two South divisions, are
Speaker 1: the will the Texans and Falcons come out of this
Speaker 1: offseason as the two biggest favorites to win their division?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the biggest in any division or just no,
Speaker 7: in any division?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 5: Really I believe.
Speaker 1: I believe the Falcons will be whether or not they
Speaker 1: actually will be the chief No, well, the Chiefs, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs obviously.
Speaker 5: Who the Chiefs got in there, they get the ring.
Speaker 1: Well, the Chargers with hardball will make it a little interesting,
Speaker 1: but you're probably right, the Chiefs probably will come up.
Speaker 3: I think you're talking about two teams that have shot
Speaker 3: up the right hearts.
Speaker 5: But after the Chiefs it might be.
Speaker 1: To me, it might be these two divisions in terms
Speaker 1: of like where everyone's going to.
Speaker 6: Be pretty wild when you think about that they won
Speaker 6: three games a year ago. But you're not wrong, they'll
Speaker 6: both be favorites.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a break and when we return
Speaker 1: more news. Dear Sam, I'm writing you today to offer
Speaker 1: my heartfelt congratulations on the beginning of a beautiful new adventure.
Speaker 1: Six years ago, you entered my world like an avalanche
Speaker 1: of hope. I and many like me believed you would
Speaker 1: be our salvation after decades in the darkness. Alas the
Speaker 1: faiths played cruel tricks on us all you were treated
Speaker 1: in a careless manner and casually tossed away as my
Speaker 1: people floundered, you wandered. This week's arrival with the Mighty
Speaker 1: Vikings of Minnesota, an obvious choice for the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four team of around the NFL, feels like the end
Speaker 1: of your undeserved exile in the beginning of at long last,
Speaker 1: a fair and true opportunity to succeed on the grand stage.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt you will fend off any competition,
Speaker 1: thrive in a healthy new environment, and expose each of
Speaker 1: your critics as the rude, thoughtless little pigs they so
Speaker 1: clearly are.
Speaker 5: As For myself, I will champion you from afar.
Speaker 1: My warm feelings tinged with the bitter sweet, a wistful melancholy.
Speaker 1: Only former lovers can truly understand. Safe journey aboard your
Speaker 1: Norse longship, Sweet Prince Skull forever, signed your admirer from
Speaker 1: the car Sam Donald to the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 7: That the beautiful sound, the romantic sound of the of
Speaker 7: the number two, only lensil on the.
Speaker 6: Only lovers, not even like family members or just only
Speaker 6: just physical lovers.
Speaker 3: And if somebody's writing for your heart relationship with Sam.
Speaker 1: The heart wants with the heart wants, and yes, and
Speaker 1: I I commented on this that I really have wanted
Speaker 1: Darnald to get a true fresh start because like what happened.
Speaker 1: It's funny considering Baker went number one, Sam went number three.
Speaker 1: What Baker got last year is what all I was thinking,
Speaker 1: even during this forty nine er season where he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, one heart beat away from getting into that
Speaker 1: lineup and maybe being able to make an impact. Just
Speaker 1: wanted him to have a chance, and he kind of
Speaker 1: has exactly in some ways the Baker set up now
Speaker 1: where we don't know and he could they might go
Speaker 1: and draft somebody in April. So I don't want to
Speaker 1: put the cart before the horse totally. But and the
Speaker 1: contract came out at first it was ten million, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's definitely their starter. We don't know
Speaker 1: how much guaranteed money is coming into this, but don't
Speaker 1: you just get the feeling that Kevin O'Connell and he
Speaker 1: obviously likes him a lot, Kyle Shanahan obviously liked him
Speaker 1: a lot. There are people that are champions of this guy,
Speaker 1: and they're they're believing his potential that I would not
Speaker 1: be surprised if O'Connell wants to see if he can
Speaker 1: get that Baker season out of Donald and maybe reset
Speaker 1: the franchise with a depreciated asset who can outperform greatly
Speaker 1: on what they signed him for.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for like the pocket of humans that continue to
Speaker 7: champion Darnald, and I think there's reasons to believe. You
Speaker 7: look at where he was with the Jets and Panthers
Speaker 7: and say, you know, total disorganization. It rite morphine right
Speaker 7: into total disorganization where he was actually on the same
Speaker 7: team as Baker Mayfield. They went into the hive and
Speaker 7: they came back out. Baker's had his chance. This is
Speaker 7: the best situation Donald's been in terms of the personnel
Speaker 7: around him.
Speaker 1: I don't put it beyond Minnesota.
Speaker 7: They are in a rebuild mode to some degree that
Speaker 7: like they are sitting at number eleven, it just feels possible,
Speaker 7: maybe even likely, that they trade up to get get
Speaker 7: up to number five somewhere and get JJ McCarthy and
Speaker 7: then it's Donald in a competition. But Donald is actually
Speaker 7: I don't know if he's a perfect bridge, but he's
Speaker 7: a guy you could you could feel excited about seeing
Speaker 7: what he could do because.
Speaker 1: It's that's what happens. But it's certainly possible. They also
Speaker 1: possibility they get Aaron Jones also, so he gets cut
Speaker 1: loose by the Packers at him.
Speaker 5: I love I love Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 1: You know he's there's a reason he's one of the
Speaker 1: most popular coaches in the league in terms of that
Speaker 1: that Union poll and also the results you've seen, so
Speaker 1: I think he has the right coach. He has the
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the League. He's got a running back.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna have a chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good setup if it happens
Speaker 1: for him this time. Yeah, they're not done building. They
Speaker 1: hit a home run last year with their draft. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we're gonna have kg Osbourne back, but
Speaker 1: I love Jordan Addison as a two Hawkinson.
Speaker 3: You couldn't. I get it.
Speaker 6: The Donald Hive is out there and I when this
Speaker 6: news happened, I just my immediate reaction and was how
Speaker 6: obnoxious the Donald Hive is going to be for the
Speaker 6: next five to six months. And half of our listeners
Speaker 6: appeared to respond with with this here Han shout out
Speaker 6: and and it wasn't Paul Rudd.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 6: That's why if I wanted to shout him out, I'm
Speaker 6: not into uh, well you do blind items on Twitter?
Speaker 6: Well I will, but you understand why there might have
Speaker 6: been Yeah, No, I get it, and we do the
Speaker 6: show together. Happened to But it's it's bigger than just Dan.
Speaker 6: It's it's Daniel Jeremiah had later number one overall, it's
Speaker 6: Mina Kimes, who's you know, always thought he was going
Speaker 6: to be great it's Nate Tice, who thinks he's this
Speaker 6: unhair you know, quarterback talent. It's Bill Barnwell, it's all
Speaker 6: the big tape heads and names in the business. They've
Speaker 6: always all believed in Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1: And you couldn't even put him in your one oh one,
Speaker 1: and yet you watch him play football, huh.
Speaker 3: And it's never really happened for him.
Speaker 1: Because the some people, some people are able to look
Speaker 1: past the circumstances and see even when you look at
Speaker 1: his last time as a start at the Panthers, he
Speaker 1: puts some good tape out there, and some of the
Speaker 1: data backs that up, and they see that this is
Speaker 1: a guy that has never been in position to succeed.
Speaker 5: And there are so many quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: There are very few quarterbacks in the league that can
Speaker 1: overcome ineptitude all around them.
Speaker 5: He's not one of them.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying he's going to become a top
Speaker 1: ten quarterback, but I think he has the potential to
Speaker 1: be a guy that's on the right side of the
Speaker 1: Dalton scale if if he gets his chance, and I
Speaker 1: hope he does. And I don't think you're not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be too obnoxious.
Speaker 3: Now I'm having fun with it.
Speaker 1: If he if he likes in September, it could be
Speaker 1: an issue.
Speaker 5: I like that we get this, that this is a
Speaker 5: great way.
Speaker 1: If it happens again, I don't guess the Vikings could
Speaker 1: go out and get a quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to I do too well.
Speaker 1: If he gets his starts this year, it's going to
Speaker 1: put to bed something that It's not just me. There
Speaker 1: are other people that have always wondered, and this feels
Speaker 1: like a good, like healthy setup for him.
Speaker 7: The one little drama magnet out there that kind of
Speaker 7: concerns me a little bit is you've got to keep
Speaker 7: Justin Jefferson happy. I mean, he's become one of those
Speaker 7: wide receivers where it's like he can't float through his
Speaker 7: career with poor quarterback play.
Speaker 5: You've moved on from Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 7: I'm sure he wasn't happy about that, and so there
Speaker 7: is some pressure on Darnold to come in like he's
Speaker 7: now in that thing where like your number one star
Speaker 7: diva wide receiver needs to be fed correctly on a
Speaker 7: weekly basis, Will you.
Speaker 6: Want to be Jefferson's going to get fed right and
Speaker 6: you want to be happy just listen to Quessi at
Speaker 6: the combine saying that Justin Jefferson deserves and will be
Speaker 6: the highest paid player in the league non quarterback, which
Speaker 6: is a bold statement.
Speaker 3: You know you're only going to say that.
Speaker 6: I think if you've already actually made that offer and
Speaker 6: he didn't accept it and you're still like working it out,
Speaker 6: I mean that an amazing thing. So there's no way
Speaker 6: they are ever going to trade him. And I think
Speaker 6: the contract and we haven't seen the details, but whether
Speaker 6: the base salary is six eight nine, whatever it is,
Speaker 6: to me, that's that actually tells you exactly who he is,
Speaker 6: which is an in between and not a backup, not
Speaker 6: a starter, a guy you pair with your rookie, certainly
Speaker 6: above what Baker got last year, and a lot above
Speaker 6: what Sam Donald got last year. You only got three
Speaker 6: or four million last year, but someone that's not necessarily
Speaker 6: expected to start seventeen games, that the rookie is going
Speaker 6: to have a chance likely if they can get one.
Speaker 1: And Quessi, you know he's looking at it like, you know,
Speaker 1: we think we have something in here with him potentially,
Speaker 1: and if he can be a league average or better quarterback,
Speaker 1: would I rather have Sam Donald for seven or be
Speaker 1: paying Kirk Cousins still forty Like well, I.
Speaker 5: Think they did the right thing for their team. Like
Speaker 5: we talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you needed to draft a new guy. Anyways,
Speaker 6: I think that that's the smarter move. Aaron Jones is
Speaker 6: an interesting signing, just that one day he turns down
Speaker 6: a pay cup from the Packers and then he joins
Speaker 6: the rival. Seen this move before, especially with the Packers
Speaker 6: in the Vikings and adds a little juice. I think
Speaker 6: he was playing well at the end of last year.
Speaker 6: Reportedly he turned down a contract with the Packers that
Speaker 6: would have brought his salary down to four million. He
Speaker 6: ends up getting six from the Vikings, so he does
Speaker 6: come out ahead. He must have known that before he
Speaker 6: did it, and now.
Speaker 3: He can get a little revenge.
Speaker 7: I still remember, like broadcasting a show from home when
Speaker 7: he signed that monster deal with the Packers, and like
Speaker 7: it just shows you that seven hundred days later just
Speaker 7: doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: If he's healthy.
Speaker 1: He's in a block and change in seven hundred days
Speaker 1: in life, especially in the end. Disturbing by the way
Speaker 1: any Van Ginkel Vikings takes about where he fits in
Speaker 1: in Fangio's defense, Well, it's Brian Flores who who knew
Speaker 1: him so well in Miami. And I think that Van
Speaker 1: Ginkle started to get on the radar of the you know,
Speaker 1: the hipster Van Ginkle crowd during that Flora's run in
Speaker 1: Miami and then continued in a different scheme, and it's
Speaker 1: like he kind of seems like he could fit in anything.
Speaker 6: Certainly with the Vikings not even adding Donald to they
Speaker 6: really are the hipster team this year. So instead of
Speaker 6: signing cousins for all that money, they get Donald hipster favorite,
Speaker 6: Ben Ginkel, Blake Cashman, Jonathan Grenard. Like they have been,
Speaker 6: Aaron Jones had been extremely active here in free agents,
Speaker 6: like the Silver it's like the Silver Lake of They're
Speaker 6: not looking at it like we're taking some huge step back.
Speaker 6: They're year three under O'Connell. They're they're definitely trying to compete.
Speaker 6: They just thought this was the time at quarterback to
Speaker 6: make the change, some real team of atn vibes never
Speaker 6: doing just a conversation again, Well.
Speaker 7: But no, you know what, can I argu Can I
Speaker 7: argue why it is a conversation because like we now,
Speaker 7: it's like you bounce away from them for like four seasons.
Speaker 5: But we made a mistake last year.
Speaker 7: But now this would be the year that when we
Speaker 7: don't pick them, they thrive or or they start three
Speaker 7: and one. We picked them and they lose seven out
Speaker 7: of eight, which is typically what they get in get
Speaker 7: in early.
Speaker 6: It would be good to pick one before the season starts.
Speaker 6: Whenever we picked midway through, like they immediately go on
Speaker 6: a loose.
Speaker 8: I also have a lot of fun Vikings drops, so
Speaker 8: those are always funded.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a conversation and Vikings fans are
Speaker 1: screaming right now out their listening device, don't do it,
Speaker 1: don't do it.
Speaker 5: But it just might make the most sense.
Speaker 1: In other news, the Falcons speaking of Kirk Cousins, So
Speaker 1: Cousins has a good setup. I think Donald is a
Speaker 1: good setup where Cousins used to be. I think Cousins
Speaker 1: has a nice setup in Atlanta because you have Drake
Speaker 1: London as your number one, you have Kyle Pitts as
Speaker 1: your tight end with number one potential, you have Bjean
Speaker 1: Robinson who has potential to be the best running back
Speaker 1: in the league. They did seem to be missing that
Speaker 1: second piece after Calvin Ridley disappeared in the wide out game.
Speaker 1: How about Darnald Mooney? So he lands three for thirty nine,
Speaker 1: twenty six guaranteed. This is one of my favorite moves
Speaker 1: greg of free agency in the first two days. I
Speaker 1: think Mooney was a depreciated assets. He's one year removed
Speaker 1: from a eleven hundred yard season with Chicago, and if
Speaker 1: you put him in a functional offense with a pocket
Speaker 1: passer with elite skills like Cousins, I think that Mooney
Speaker 1: can definitely bounce back and become a real dude in
Speaker 1: that offense.
Speaker 5: I love this movie.
Speaker 3: I do too.
Speaker 6: He's a unique player because there just aren't many players
Speaker 6: that get open consistently deep down the field.
Speaker 3: Now, he's not.
Speaker 6: A big player, and you do see him struggle sometimes
Speaker 6: in those contested catch situations, but he was in a
Speaker 6: tough spot and there was a lot of chatter of
Speaker 6: like if you just watch the Bears tape, like he's
Speaker 6: out there getting open and they don't have anyone. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they need a too, they need a three and a
Speaker 6: four and a five. They are gonna need to get
Speaker 6: active in terms of the draft and just like getting
Speaker 6: some rotation players. But he's someone that I think you
Speaker 6: can be confident. It takes a full compliment of snaps
Speaker 6: and the interest was there for him. He got a
Speaker 6: lot more guaranteed money, for instance, than Gabe Davis. Will
Speaker 6: see if he gets more than Calvin Ridley when he
Speaker 6: signs tomorrow. Sounds like he's probably gonna sign with the Jaguars,
Speaker 6: by the way, while we're here, because if he signs
Speaker 6: with the Jaguars Wednesday, they only have to give up
Speaker 6: a third round pick. If he signed re signs with
Speaker 6: the Jaguars, which would been today, they have to give
Speaker 6: up a second round pick.
Speaker 3: And the fact that he's just floating out there means
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Think the PA I was trying to make sense of this.
Speaker 1: Isn't that an easy trade term to circumvent? Yes, like
Speaker 1: why did they doing that? But that seems such an
Speaker 1: easy way to do it. I feel like this was
Speaker 1: the Falcons right. This is a why did they put
Speaker 1: the language like that where the Jaguars could just easily
Speaker 1: just wait an extra day?
Speaker 6: It wouldn't surprise me if this is an issue brought
Speaker 6: up with like the NFL management counselor whoever decides these
Speaker 6: sort of things. Iron it seems a little shady to
Speaker 6: me in the Patriots probably aren't gonna getim.
Speaker 3: That was a side point.
Speaker 6: But Darnel Mooney, well, two lane connection, by the way,
Speaker 6: two lane GM, Terry Fontano in Atlanta.
Speaker 5: Greg, No, you didn't get rid of him, not a
Speaker 5: single person.
Speaker 6: Two lane wide receiver, Darnell Mooney. It's a little green
Speaker 6: wave loyalty there.
Speaker 7: This is not a two lane college podcast. But I
Speaker 7: appreciate the fact that you went to school. He hit
Speaker 7: one hundred and forty targets from in that thousand yard season.
Speaker 7: He's only had one hundred and twenty two over the
Speaker 7: last two years, so they I do think that he's
Speaker 7: in for a larger role, and they slotted incorrectly with
Speaker 7: the Falcons speaking, And I'm glad you went to Tulane.
Speaker 5: Greg.
Speaker 3: That's no.
Speaker 5: I just mean, wait, you went to Tulane.
Speaker 6: I just mean this is probably the last time ever
Speaker 6: there's going to be a big time of free agent
Speaker 6: signing two lane to Tulane.
Speaker 5: Greg. By the way, ever, I mean.
Speaker 3: Unless Fontode goes and finds who else.
Speaker 5: We got, don't worry. Don't worry. I won't get into detail.
Speaker 1: But how about some of those mega Greg reveals on
Speaker 1: the way to the airport today about his days at Tulane. WHOA, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was confessional. WHOA learned a lot.
Speaker 3: At least, Jack of what stories I have told you guys,
Speaker 3: and what.
Speaker 1: Explosive I was happy you're here. In other uh yeah,
Speaker 1: hold on to your butts. Patriots talk. They signed Jacoby Brissett,
Speaker 1: so they add the veteran quarterback to the room, a
Speaker 1: guy that's you know, everybody loves Jake Briskett. I feel
Speaker 1: like we've been talking about Jake Briskett on the show
Speaker 1: since the very beginning, so much so that the Jake
Speaker 1: Brisket drop that it companies.
Speaker 3: Yes, slice me off a piece of that she has.
Speaker 1: Gotten, use that, you know, if Frags could get just
Speaker 1: a slice of royalties, I would say it. Frag seems
Speaker 1: like she's pretty good with money with some of these
Speaker 1: trips she takes in the summer. But you probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: say no to more money. Now, little mailbox cash as
Speaker 1: they call it, she is.
Speaker 5: I've if I've ever critiqued her to her face.
Speaker 7: It was like, why aren't you actually becoming a voiceover
Speaker 7: artist in our town here in Hollywood?
Speaker 1: You right be making total bank A lot of competition
Speaker 1: as Zumwhalt. That's a lot before yeah, struck old with
Speaker 1: our company. Jay makes seven million a year doing voice
Speaker 1: for us. Uh, it was it was a grind because
Speaker 1: there's so much competition, you know that Zumwalt. I went
Speaker 1: with him once. This is years ago, would have been
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. We were living in Hollywood, and
Speaker 1: I drove Jayden know how to drive the jot or
Speaker 1: he didn't have his license at.
Speaker 5: The time, so fourteen, Like.
Speaker 1: Jay's your age around okay, so he's you know, he's
Speaker 1: not a kid. So I drove him and we drove
Speaker 1: to a studio, like a production studio in Culver City,
Speaker 1: and I just sat in on a recording session where
Speaker 1: Jason had to redub all of Steven Sagal's lines to
Speaker 1: some like straight to video made in Korea film or
Speaker 1: made in Russia film at the time. And so just
Speaker 1: imagine watching Jason Zumwolt the Voice of God and around
Speaker 1: the NFL making grunting sounds in the in the voice
Speaker 1: of Steven Sagal for three hours.
Speaker 5: It was amazing.
Speaker 1: Can we purchase this tape? I want to watch this.
Speaker 1: So that's the life of a voice over.
Speaker 3: I must need to leave the room right now, just
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 1: Also the voice of Roman Bellic and Graham Theft Auto's
Speaker 1: mega fan. No, all right, let's get back on track,
Speaker 1: a little zumwalt, shout out. Jake Briskett is in the room.
Speaker 1: He's a quarterback. Pat's gonna take out quarterback number three overall.
Speaker 1: Maybe probably so Jake is in there as a great
Speaker 1: veteran alongside a young quarterback that is coming in now
Speaker 1: that Mac Jones is out of the picture with Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: They also resigned offensive lineman Michael Whennu.
Speaker 3: I think I got it, you got it Yeah, to
Speaker 3: a three year.
Speaker 1: Fifty seven million dollar contract, thirty eight million guaranteed. That's
Speaker 1: nice money. They also resigned Josh Uce on a one
Speaker 1: year deal. He wanted to stick around. He wanted to
Speaker 1: stay with the Patriots. Calvin Ridley reportedly is looking potentially
Speaker 1: going to give up money that the Patriots want to
Speaker 1: give him to stay in Jacksonville. There's a report out
Speaker 1: there right that the Pats are hot for Ridley, but
Speaker 1: Ridley's not so hot for the Pats, and he wants
Speaker 1: to stay in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5: So Patriots active today.
Speaker 6: Look if their plan here is to bring me back in,
Speaker 6: get me, get me more.
Speaker 3: In fact the way, and the only.
Speaker 1: Reason you're out is because you don't go to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl every year now, which is always a little
Speaker 1: bit of an underreported aspect of Greg's not a big fan.
Speaker 6: As soon as I said it on this show, everyone was.
Speaker 5: Very bad fandom upset.
Speaker 6: It wasn't so much Bail. It's just like we've hit
Speaker 6: the peak. It's you're you're a little less into it.
Speaker 6: Tom Brady's gone. What are you gonna?
Speaker 3: What are you going to replace Tom Brady?
Speaker 6: How about replace him with one of the guys that
Speaker 6: actually started for him, went while he was serving his
Speaker 6: UH suspension back in the day, with some exciting moments
Speaker 6: as a rookie. I mean, you get Jake Brisket in
Speaker 6: the building and then you get either Drake may or
Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels and you got the perfect quarterback tuitor that
Speaker 6: that is an exciting combo. And I do like they
Speaker 6: kind of they kept. This is very different than the belichicker.
Speaker 6: They kept the players that I would want them to keep,
Speaker 6: ended up only signing for one year three million. Mike
Speaker 6: car Fullo says he passed up money to stay elsewhere
Speaker 6: but he probably passed up like second year money and
Speaker 6: he's betty on himself to have a bigger year. But
Speaker 6: it is interesting to me that these guys want to
Speaker 6: stay with Mayo and I really like a whnu. I mean,
Speaker 6: he's been their best offensive lineman, most consistent versutill.
Speaker 3: Over the last couple of years. So it's like they
Speaker 3: keep the guys they like. They bring in the guy
Speaker 3: like I see you, gird Mayo, see I see what
Speaker 3: you're doing. And their front office it's not just a
Speaker 3: one man from Elliott Wine, but it's probably not your Mayo.
Speaker 7: But I think Brissette Brissett is lineage Preset's the perfect
Speaker 7: person for this situation and like he's proven he can
Speaker 7: do this over and over. And it's notable that like
Speaker 7: true Alex van peld is a true offensive coordinator like
Speaker 7: he was under Stefanski during that year, that he's like
Speaker 7: Presett shine in Cleveland, but he went after Baker and
Speaker 7: or you know, at least reportedly, and he knows what
Speaker 7: he's getting in Jacoby Brissett. Jacoby Brissett is a celebrated
Speaker 7: like Kevin Stefanski called him, like the best teammate's ever
Speaker 7: observed in a locker room. So this Patriots team could
Speaker 7: use a little bit of that and whatever rookie they draft,
Speaker 7: and I assume they will. It's the perfect kind of
Speaker 7: path from there here A to B.
Speaker 6: And it's similar money to Darnold. I think he's getting
Speaker 6: eight million. I think they are gonna we aren't gonna
Speaker 6: know what they're doing. I'm gonna guess until Draft week
Speaker 6: or Draft night. I think they're they're leaving themselves. Some
Speaker 6: will go room here. If someone gives them a godfather offer,
Speaker 6: they might say, let's.
Speaker 3: Move down, let's pick up a bunch of picks.
Speaker 6: Who knows, Maybe we'll take a second or third round
Speaker 6: quarterback and we just go with that for now.
Speaker 3: If we're not in love with who's there at three.
Speaker 1: If Jake Briskett is one of the best veteran quarterbacks
Speaker 1: you'd want in a room with a young, hotshot rookie,
Speaker 1: I would say among lower on the list would be
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, who quit on his team a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, but apparently keeps getting hired, so people must
Speaker 1: like the guy. I don't get it. The Commanders agree
Speaker 1: to terms with Marcus Mariota on a contract that's worth
Speaker 1: up to six million, which is again, you what has
Speaker 1: Mariota done in.
Speaker 5: The last eight years in this league?
Speaker 6: If everyone wants anything's to fix these high quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: What is a pretty pick privilege? It's I mean, they
Speaker 1: called it. So he's the number two pick is going
Speaker 1: to Washing team. They're gonna obviously take a quarterback. So
Speaker 1: this is bad news for Sam Howell, who went from
Speaker 1: midway through last season. Oh maybe Sam Awl is the
Speaker 1: long term answer too. I don't even know if he's
Speaker 1: on the team anymore the way this looks. So that's
Speaker 1: one big move for Washington or a move for Washington.
Speaker 1: The other one would be Austin Eckler, and this is man,
Speaker 1: it is tough out there for running bas because Eckler
Speaker 1: went from scoring twenty touchdowns a year for a run
Speaker 1: there too, having a down contract year in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three and he signed a two year deal with the Commanders.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of sizzle there, worth up to eleven
Speaker 1: point four to three million, less than five million total
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. So that is obviously when Eckler
Speaker 1: was holding out last summer and he was like, look
Speaker 1: at my production, Look who I am. The worst case
Speaker 1: scenario camp true is short of getting a catastrophic injury,
Speaker 1: which is he didn't play as well, the tape didn't
Speaker 1: look hot, and then he didn't get paid very well.
Speaker 3: But at least he got a job. Could have been worse.
Speaker 1: There were guys last year, if you remember, like the
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cooks the world, that hung out all through the
Speaker 1: offseason looking for a job.
Speaker 3: Eckler gets paid, but not what he wanted.
Speaker 7: I mean, Antonio Gibson out the door to New England.
Speaker 5: So you pair him with Brian Robinson.
Speaker 7: I think, you know, reading some stuff that Deckler put
Speaker 7: out there today on he's pretty active on social media,
Speaker 7: seems highly motivated to kind of wipe away the narrative
Speaker 7: from last year and what happened on a bad Chargers team.
Speaker 5: I don't hate it.
Speaker 7: And this is a team also from a you know,
Speaker 7: from the Mariota standpoint. Absolutely, they're drafting a quarterback just
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just assuming that without any question at
Speaker 7: this point. And there's whispers that Howell if someone else
Speaker 7: wanted to make something out of them, that they would
Speaker 7: maybe move.
Speaker 3: Howell, which to me, he'd be a fun backup.
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 6: To add to the mix, look, motivation has never been
Speaker 6: an issue for Austin Eckler. That dude is max out
Speaker 6: his career in a way that very few players his
Speaker 6: side undrafted. I mean, he's had an incredible career. So
Speaker 6: I don't know if Trian Harder's got to get it
Speaker 6: done for him. I'm not excited about that backfield. Claire
Speaker 6: and Brian Robinson, they've been incredibly active. Dan Brandon McManus,
Speaker 6: there is a kicker changing teams. Is a commander. Dante
Speaker 6: Fowler is a commander. Nick Alligretti, the guy who you
Speaker 6: might remember stepped in in the Super Bowl for the
Speaker 6: Chiefs the last couple of games, he's a commander.
Speaker 3: Cleveland fur All a lot of Super Bowl you know experience.
Speaker 6: And then Jeremy Chin That that's one that I like
Speaker 6: out of all these just as kind of a bit
Speaker 6: of a flyer. One year five million had a nice
Speaker 6: early couple of years for the p.
Speaker 5: Turning that roster over.
Speaker 1: And yet until they need this quarterback to hit, until
Speaker 1: they get the new quarter They got the owner out.
Speaker 5: Now they got to get the quarterback right.
Speaker 1: And then there's just something so gray to me with
Speaker 1: that team and they need that that someone to kind
Speaker 1: of electrify the team, and I know the fans feel
Speaker 1: the same way.
Speaker 7: It is a good sign that a bunch of players
Speaker 7: followed dan Quinn from Dallas to Washington, and like, this
Speaker 7: is a team that I feel like, especially on Ron River,
Speaker 7: it's just plug in aging veteran milk toast quarterback for
Speaker 7: like two thousand years in rows, Like it's a new
Speaker 7: experience for them to go draft to Brooks.
Speaker 6: I mean, it might work out for the Patriots, but
Speaker 6: that win over the Broncos on whatever it was, Saturday
Speaker 6: night or Sunday night, it was like Christmas Eve and
Speaker 6: the fact that that you couldn't win one game down
Speaker 6: the stretch Ron RIVERA like, how did that team turn
Speaker 6: into a four win team? They go and steal that
Speaker 6: two pick and they're sitting pretty.
Speaker 1: That's stiff kicker, yours pipe's won with the game on
Speaker 1: the line after.
Speaker 5: Like missing fourteen kicks earlier.
Speaker 3: That's right. It does annoy me.
Speaker 1: I wish they had their welcome welcome to how the
Speaker 1: other half lived, Greg, it's not fun, all right?
Speaker 5: One more before we take a break.
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, the linebacker, former first round pick of the
Speaker 1: Ravens who had a breakout season last year. Once Rokwan
Speaker 1: Smith hit the scene in Baltimore, he was able to
Speaker 1: leverage that not into a new deal with the Ravens,
Speaker 1: but a contract with the rival Steelers three years worth.
Speaker 5: Up to forty one million.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the real money is, but Queen
Speaker 1: goes to Pittsburgh another one mark that just makes sense.
Speaker 7: Well, it's too if there's two teams I could pick
Speaker 7: the league wide to make, you know, good use of
Speaker 7: these signings, Like it's it's Pittsburgh and it's the Ravens.
Speaker 7: It does feel like this is the free agency mailstrom
Speaker 7: where like you're getting a lot of like player goes
Speaker 7: from A to rival B and like there's some juicy storylines.
Speaker 7: You can already see that, Like when you know when
Speaker 7: Patrick Queen's lined up against the Ravens and Lamar Jackson
Speaker 7: in like Week three on Sunday Night Football, that's your
Speaker 7: storyline going in there.
Speaker 6: This this Steelers regime has really struggled to fix this
Speaker 6: inside linebacker position, something they used to be known for,
Speaker 6: and they've just been throwing good money after bad. They
Speaker 6: finally got a little more aggressive. They're usually not too
Speaker 6: aggressive in free agency, but the real money really is
Speaker 6: like a one year, fourteen million dollar contract. I think
Speaker 6: Patrick Queen would be high on the list of like
Speaker 6: guys who were most disappointed by the market he had
Speaker 6: when he got to free agency, Jordan Brooks, Frankie Luvu.
Speaker 6: They got better, but really all the off ball linebackers,
Speaker 6: none of them like hit it too big.
Speaker 5: All right, let's take another break and we will continue on.
Speaker 6: Before we take a break, let's do a little breaking
Speaker 6: news perfectly time.
Speaker 3: Breaking bangs.
Speaker 5: Bangs.
Speaker 6: The Steelers are sending wide receiver Deontay Johnson to the
Speaker 6: Caroline Panther. Hey, Bryce Young actually has a wide receiver.
Speaker 5: That's good.
Speaker 1: That's a good trade. I don't even know what the
Speaker 1: terms are.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows yet. Man, the Panthers need juice. Adam Thielen
Speaker 1: he for you know, all the tread on his tires.
Speaker 1: He put together a nice season for them, but they
Speaker 1: obviously need to fill the DJ Moore hole. And you know,
Speaker 1: does Deontay Johnson Is he a knucklehead?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 1: Is he a guy that you could trust to be
Speaker 1: your your down to down number one dude and anchor
Speaker 1: of the offense.
Speaker 6: We'll see, But he certainly has a talent. Now he
Speaker 6: gets open and we've got an update. It is a
Speaker 6: quite interesting trade, A player for player trade Deontay Johnson
Speaker 6: and a late pick. I think it's pick two forty
Speaker 6: what round is that sixth?
Speaker 3: Probably?
Speaker 6: And then the Steelers get Dante Jackson, very confusing Deontay
Speaker 6: Johnson for Dante Jackson. We give him a new name too,
Speaker 6: Dante Jackson, who is a kind of an up and
Speaker 6: down cornerback, but good when he's good, been good. And
Speaker 6: pick one seventy two, So the Steelers get one seventy eight,
Speaker 6: they get a Day three move up in the draft,
Speaker 6: and they get a cornerback in exchange for Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 3: I mean cornerbacks. They need cornerbacks in Pittsburgh. I get it.
Speaker 7: I think this seems Dante Jackson fits for the Steelers.
Speaker 7: I really think he does.
Speaker 6: It looks like a nasty sort of thing, really like
Speaker 6: Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 7: I mean that's I like Johnson, But I think if
Speaker 7: you're if you're inside the Steelers like world. Deontay Johnson
Speaker 7: had those weeks last year where he was, you know,
Speaker 7: accused of not putting in full effort, and I wonder
Speaker 7: if he burned Bridges. I mean, you know, he's here right,
Speaker 7: talked about in trades for a while, so it's like.
Speaker 1: But it's bitterly disappointing because he's so talented. But he
Speaker 1: I mean, his act obviously is what got him sent
Speaker 1: out of town, you know, and geez that. So the
Speaker 1: Panthers are taking a little bit of a roll the
Speaker 1: dice there in terms of who you're bringing in.
Speaker 5: But if it works, I think it's a good trade.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They It is so hard to get wide receivers, which
Speaker 6: is why throwing DJ more of all people into that
Speaker 6: trade I think really hurt Carolina.
Speaker 3: They felt.
Speaker 6: I mean, they need they need two more, but you
Speaker 6: can't start getting two to three good ones without one first.
Speaker 6: And he he gets open. I mean, he is a
Speaker 6: reception perception favorite. We've got another bit of breaking news.
Speaker 6: I think it's not it's not Carolina, but it is
Speaker 6: a fun one. You know, during the show, the top
Speaker 6: guy left on my top one oh one, daneil Hunter,
Speaker 6: he got taken off the guard. Now it's the second,
Speaker 6: the number two guy on the list or number three,
Speaker 6: Chauncey Gardner. Johnson is returning to the Eagles on a
Speaker 6: three year deal.
Speaker 5: Isn't that nice? Up to took a little one year break.
Speaker 5: There you go. Eagles are like, ooops, we messed up.
Speaker 5: Come home.
Speaker 6: They do feel like they messed up. I think with
Speaker 6: that James Bradbury contract they could have just given that
Speaker 6: money to Chauncey Gardner Johnson last year.
Speaker 1: But oh well, isn't a nice one. You could correct
Speaker 1: your error like that, like us with Van Ginkel.
Speaker 6: How many he's only been He's only twenty six years old,
Speaker 6: and it he has bounced around.
Speaker 3: But that was a perfect spot for them.
Speaker 6: And their secondary was rough last year, like as exciting
Speaker 6: as they were or they look offensively. I still have
Speaker 6: questions about the defense, but this helps.
Speaker 1: Yes, that late season collapse was almost unique, like you
Speaker 1: have not seen anything like that from where they started
Speaker 1: to where they finished. So changes are being made in
Speaker 1: Philly and we'll see what happens. Let's take a break
Speaker 1: and we will finish out the news and now another
Speaker 1: edition of NFL Media Insiders, Friends or Foes. Cowboys Receivers.
Speaker 6: Okay out, never mind, go ahead? It was mad.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: Mike it he ends up paying attention.
Speaker 3: I'm talking. I'm not even on the screen. It's the
Speaker 3: voice of God. It's the voice of God.
Speaker 1: Tell me about something.
Speaker 2: Else, please.
Speaker 5: A couple of days.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're live, guys.
Speaker 5: I mean they're not. We're not going to tape.
Speaker 7: They're getting worn down with a you know, a barrage
Speaker 7: of news that seems to never end. I feel like
Speaker 7: the only one thing is is what life is about
Speaker 7: at this point, it's just NFL transactions.
Speaker 1: Let's hear another one, got another one. It's a good
Speaker 1: app so far.
Speaker 2: You know, Andrew if I May, is usually the most
Speaker 2: buttoned up, the most on the money of us all.
Speaker 9: So when even he is just.
Speaker 2: Like my bye by bad, I thought it was, you know,
Speaker 2: it's coming unraveled, and and that that worries me because
Speaker 2: we still got a couple of days left.
Speaker 3: I mean, Josie Jewel got us off the tracks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josie on the tracks.
Speaker 7: The You almost have to say that our critique yesterday
Speaker 7: on various platforms.
Speaker 1: I'll say hour you mean, well, no, I made it
Speaker 1: a little personal, and I was I was taking I.
Speaker 7: Wouldn't have gone there like out of pocket, but when
Speaker 7: the topic came up, I went down the road. But
Speaker 7: it's like it was a bit of a flashpoint. Focus
Speaker 7: on some level a media like an understated because it
Speaker 7: just seems to be growing and growing.
Speaker 6: Like, wait, you're saying this could be the beginning of
Speaker 6: the end for the inside.
Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying that last it's twenty four hours later,
Speaker 7: and that tension seems to be only rising.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: You could also say an entire segment on the show
Speaker 1: called NFL Media Insiders, friends or foes might be teasing
Speaker 1: this as well.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 3: It's a good point.
Speaker 5: It's a concern.
Speaker 1: It would be good to do a flashpoint focus on
Speaker 1: the insiders and just have one of them one.
Speaker 5: Mike g unvarnished.
Speaker 7: But Mike G also like like what I love is
Speaker 7: he's willing to be just a tad remove from some
Speaker 7: of the deeper what it seems to be going on
Speaker 7: there from what we can tell, and he could give us,
Speaker 7: you know, not a one sided opinion, but sort of.
Speaker 5: Maybe we can get my maybe we'll get make on
Speaker 5: next week. I'm sure he'd be to discuss the status.
Speaker 5: I think that actually would. He might get a text
Speaker 5: about it after the appearance. But all right, let's get
Speaker 5: back into it.
Speaker 1: Uh bye, By so yes, Tyrod Taylor leaves the Giants.
Speaker 1: He gets replaced by Drew Locke. The Jets ruined their
Speaker 1: season last year. That's not a That's not an overstatement
Speaker 1: by not addressing quarterback behind Aaron Rodgers, by by going
Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson, who had given them no indication of
Speaker 1: an ability to play starting quarterback in the NFL at
Speaker 1: a high level through two years, to then say he
Speaker 1: was the backup and in only the Jets moment Rogers
Speaker 1: blows his achilles, We're gonna get to Rogers in a
Speaker 1: second on the fourth play of the season. Wilson is
Speaker 1: a train wreck. They end up using a bunch of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Season ruined with the great defense. Tyrod Taylor now joins
Speaker 1: the Fray, and Tyrod Taylor is like the backups backup
Speaker 1: like he is if Jake briskett Is is president of
Speaker 1: the Backups Club, Tyrod Taylor might be vice president like
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers might be vice president soon. But like I
Speaker 1: love like Tyrod is a backup, I don't like durability concerns.
Speaker 5: We already have a forty year old quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I can't say anything else other than okay, you've
Speaker 1: professionally filled the backup spot this year. Unlike last year
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. So from that, from that standpoint, good job
Speaker 1: by the Jets. They also address their offensive line in
Speaker 1: some way. Ravens guard John Simpson, who is a starter
Speaker 1: for all nineteen games for them last year, he gets
Speaker 1: signed to a contract, so he immediately becomes one of
Speaker 1: their starting guards. And they also take a flyer on
Speaker 1: former forty nine ers first round picture von kin Law,
Speaker 1: who signs a one year deal with the team.
Speaker 6: Love Tyrod loved the bizarre transformation he made love the
Speaker 6: Jets agreeing with me and not Nick Westling, who who
Speaker 6: thought Tyrod was way too high in the ranks. He
Speaker 6: was like eighty something. It's like, calm down Tyrod used
Speaker 6: to be. You know, in my mind, Tyrod was always
Speaker 6: overly safe, Like he can run and he's got a
Speaker 6: good arm, but he's just like very conservative. And then
Speaker 6: when he came in last year, he was like, this
Speaker 6: career might be ending soon. I'm gonna turn into Ryan
Speaker 6: Freakin Fitzpatrick. He led the NFL by far according to
Speaker 6: PFF in big time throw rate.
Speaker 5: He was slinging the pill.
Speaker 6: Seventeen big time throws in very limited sample size. But
Speaker 6: you know, if you if it's anyone over fifty dropbacks
Speaker 6: in league he had. He had a couple hundred, easily
Speaker 6: number one. And it's a good list too. It's Stafford,
Speaker 6: Josh Allen, Gino, Dak, you know, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Like it's a good list. He's slaying it and and he's.
Speaker 7: Like the hoole Zach Wilson thing beyond Like his actual play,
Speaker 7: it was just a weekly storyline and there was drama
Speaker 7: and then at some point he and Rodgers you're hearing
Speaker 7: about worn as close as you thought. It's like Tyrod
Speaker 7: Taylor brings zero drama and the Jets could you a
Speaker 7: player like that? Just he's not going to get into
Speaker 7: the headlines as far as we know. Probably he will,
Speaker 7: that's how it works. But he also seems to get
Speaker 7: hurt like well, right, historability is like is a continuing
Speaker 7: narrative everywhere he goes.
Speaker 5: But hopefully he doesn't have to play at all.
Speaker 6: And John Simpson a nice little moller you know, will
Speaker 6: blow up, blow up by your opposing defensive lineman with
Speaker 6: some splash blocks some.
Speaker 1: Of his his pop the hood analytics suggest he is
Speaker 1: after an up and down star to his career, maybe
Speaker 1: a good signing, so I hope. So now Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is still the QB one. Ostensibly he hasn't really played
Speaker 1: for them yet, but we get everything else with Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: including this from the New York Times. Hit it Eric
Speaker 1: the New York Times. This is the headline that broke,
Speaker 1: That broke. About an hour and a half ago, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers and Jesse Ventura top RFK Junior's list for running mate.
Speaker 5: Here's the lead by Rebecca Davis O'Brien. Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior has recently approached the NFL quarterback Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and the former min governor and professional wrestler Jesse Ventura
Speaker 1: about serving as his running mate on an independent presidential ticket,
Speaker 1: and both have welcomed the overtures. Two people familiar with
Speaker 1: the discussions said, we have a lot of overseas listeners.
Speaker 1: It is almost a certainty that it will be Donald
Speaker 1: Trump versus Joe Biden in the November presidential election.
Speaker 5: One of those two guys will most likely become president.
Speaker 1: RFK who seems like a nut and is a big
Speaker 1: anti vaxxer and all that other stuff, and I don't
Speaker 1: even care enough. Don't come at me with Actually RFK
Speaker 1: is good. I don't care. Just take it somewhere else.
Speaker 1: He will. He's the ross perrot of this election for
Speaker 1: people that are old enough. Can he take votes away
Speaker 1: from one of these the Democrat of the Republican So
Speaker 1: he does potentially have a big role in this election.
Speaker 1: And the fact that Aaron Rodgers potentially is mulling the
Speaker 1: idea of being vice president tells me again, and let
Speaker 1: you know that I'm on record. I've said I said
Speaker 1: it a month ago on the show. I feel terribly
Speaker 1: about this upcoming Jets season. Aaron Rodgers who came out
Speaker 1: and said after the year, no more distractions. Now he's
Speaker 1: in talks to be a vice presidential candidate. And by
Speaker 1: the way, when Mark is the president, but right in.
Speaker 7: The heart of the NFL season and when it takes
Speaker 7: months and months and hours and hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the very beating heart of the election process,
Speaker 1: when you're on the run up to the election and
Speaker 1: you're traveling criss crossing the country.
Speaker 3: The autumn into late autumn, and then you remember October.
Speaker 1: So I mean, Aaron, come back to us number one
Speaker 1: for even kind of allowing this to get to this point.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure he will explain it in a way
Speaker 1: that makes sense to him. The fact that it's coming
Speaker 1: from The Times and is reported by all the highest
Speaker 1: or most respected media outlets.
Speaker 3: He said it.
Speaker 6: He's on record saying that that those are those are
Speaker 6: at the top of his list, and he's talking to
Speaker 6: Rogers consistently. Rogers, you know, just a few years ago
Speaker 6: was quoted scene I'm an athlete, not an activist, and
Speaker 6: you know, said he didn't want to be treated that way.
Speaker 6: Now he has a legitimate chance to be the vice
Speaker 6: presidential candidate. And this isn't just like like lately in
Speaker 6: American politics, when there's a third or fourth party on
Speaker 6: the ballot, they don't.
Speaker 3: Get any meaningful vote.
Speaker 6: It can be anywhere from like less than one percent
Speaker 6: to you know, two to three percent something like that.
Speaker 6: At least right now, you know, it appears that RFK
Speaker 6: Junior has a chance to get like a side, not
Speaker 6: a chance to win, but a chance to get a
Speaker 6: sizeable part of the electorate to vote for him anywhere
Speaker 6: you know, from ten to twenty percent something like that,
Speaker 6: and Aaron Rodgers might be on that ticket.
Speaker 1: Can't fix stupid.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine this was actually.
Speaker 7: He's married to Cheryl Curb your Indea, yeah, something, I
Speaker 7: think that she'd be We probably should stop talking.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be terribly I mean, I'd be disappointed by
Speaker 1: the overall boondoggle when it was over. But if Rogers
Speaker 1: decided to retire tomorrow to take this run seriously with Kennedy,
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the worst thing for
Speaker 1: the Jets.
Speaker 6: What if he runs ani plays for the Jets. Nothing's
Speaker 6: off the table right now. In a weekly McAfee appearance
Speaker 6: becomes like his stumping instead of traveling the country.
Speaker 7: He just well, actually, because if you were, like, you're
Speaker 7: voting for a quarterback who could be like unfurling heroics
Speaker 7: every Sunday versus clunky speeches, it might be a better
Speaker 7: place for vice presidents to aren't seen in high esteem typically.
Speaker 5: Does this sound like anybody you know in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Mister Kennedy seventy as in recent years become prominent for
Speaker 1: his vaccine skepticism and his promotion of conspiracy theories about
Speaker 1: the federal government and public health apparatus.
Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, there seems to be it's a you know,
Speaker 3: there's a match there.
Speaker 1: Mark, Greg You're saying, let's move on. But that's the news, dude,
Speaker 1: this is in the New York Times.
Speaker 3: Bra It's crazy, man.
Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, this isn't us just like shooting from the hip.
Speaker 6: Right, No, No, I know, but we're gonna get the
Speaker 6: there is you know, we're gonna hear from the RFK
Speaker 6: junior Bros. And there's no group that's more annoying I get.
Speaker 6: I guess maybe the Aaron Rodgers bros. They're all is one.
Speaker 6: Lions gave up, let's move on. Okay, the Lions got
Speaker 6: Carlton Davis. To receive Carlton.
Speaker 1: Davis, they gave up a twenty twenty four third round
Speaker 1: pick and two six So that's a nice move by Detroit,
Speaker 1: who really need to make upgrades to their defense and
Speaker 1: Davis helps there. They also added Marcus Davenport and cornerback
Speaker 1: A Meek Robertson, so the operation in Detroit making moves
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 6: Little surprising that the Bucks did this, but it just
Speaker 6: was kind of a cap move. Carlton Davis is a
Speaker 6: number one type of cornerback when he's right, but like
Speaker 6: so many cornerbacks, it's a tough position to like. Pick
Speaker 6: a guy long term, he'll look like a pro bowler
Speaker 6: one year and kind of disappoint the next. He's had
Speaker 6: some injury issues, but little surprising. The Bucks gave up
Speaker 6: on him, Like.
Speaker 5: If Aaron Rodgers retired, my choice have to be soon.
Speaker 1: By the way, he'd have to get like the guaranteed
Speaker 1: money goes away, right, Like that goes back into the coffers.
Speaker 7: I would say one thing about him. I think he
Speaker 7: would not try to fleece the Jets financially.
Speaker 1: I think he would.
Speaker 6: He says he had some interview. He says he wants
Speaker 6: to play four more years lately recently.
Speaker 5: No, he's talking about being president. Yeah, he wants to
Speaker 5: do someone else for more years. Arah, I'm Robert F. Kennedy.
Speaker 5: Rah Rah, welcome Aroon to the stage.
Speaker 1: Arah Rah, All right.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: The Seahawks Keith Leonard Williams and uh tight end Noah
Speaker 1: Fan they bring him back on new deals. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: also staying busy, signing line linebacker Jordan Brooks, Shaq Barrett, Mark,
Speaker 1: senator Aaron Brewer, and linebacker Anthony Walker.
Speaker 3: Dude, Dolphins fans, it's not all doom and gloom. You're
Speaker 3: still making making moves.
Speaker 1: You like the Shaq Barrett signing, Mark I was like,
Speaker 1: I was officially wrong about Shaq Barrett about a half
Speaker 1: a decade ago when I thought like he had that
Speaker 1: one five cent game where I was like, it's just
Speaker 1: sort of a flash in the pan. He was much
Speaker 1: more than that pro bowler.
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like an anchor to a super Bowl winning team.
Speaker 7: So X marks the spot on a bad opinion by
Speaker 7: me have a Decadey's.
Speaker 5: A nice signing a bad opinion.
Speaker 1: I also would say, is let's team up Jameis Winston
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson on the same in the same quarterback room.
Speaker 3: Did you read what Jameis Winston said?
Speaker 5: No, so he basically.
Speaker 7: He had other offers, and he said he wants to
Speaker 7: go to Cleveland specifically, he feels like it's almost like
Speaker 7: a spiritual calling to go and work directly with the
Speaker 7: Shawn Watson. It's a very Jamis Winston social media posting
Speaker 7: it out there.
Speaker 5: But like that's why you chose.
Speaker 1: To like be his Bengali or I think to like
Speaker 1: to help him guide him spiritually, help him grow.
Speaker 7: That was the Jamis Winston. Yes, that was the intonation.
Speaker 7: If you read, well, he I.
Speaker 6: Don't know if you've seen he's he's done some pastor
Speaker 6: type work. There were some great clips of him speaking
Speaker 6: in church while holding a baby and making a very
Speaker 6: that's good thrilling talk.
Speaker 3: Weird weird Q bed the.
Speaker 5: Baby get intercepted shortly thereafter.
Speaker 3: Very thrilling. I mean, he's a legend.
Speaker 6: That is uh gonna go down as one of the
Speaker 6: best last snaps ever.
Speaker 1: That's a great way to you knew it was over
Speaker 1: and he had the fakes that the fake kneel down.
Speaker 5: That's how it ends with the Saints. I can't get over.
Speaker 1: And that's amazing that he's going to help Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: see the light.
Speaker 6: Getting good backup money, which does to me indicate, Look,
Speaker 6: they wanted they wanted something that could play.
Speaker 1: Sorry, they had the best backup in the league last
Speaker 1: year and he's a free agent. His name is Joe Flacco.
Speaker 7: I'm with you, I think, but I think we've talked this,
Speaker 7: like I think the Joe Flacco presence and what he
Speaker 7: created last year was probably like, is this too much
Speaker 7: of a distraction if wattraction continues to.
Speaker 3: Awesome? I agree with you.
Speaker 6: I think I just I think that's an element here
Speaker 6: between the fans and maybe the locker room and whatnot.
Speaker 1: They just so we bring in a known knucklehead and
Speaker 1: jamis that no one will have.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's okay. Now I understand.
Speaker 6: I mean, he is a no knucklehead, but I think
Speaker 6: teams enjoy the experienced.
Speaker 7: Teammates like him. Though, well that does in football, that does, Matt.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that's it's true of the roster. Listen,
Speaker 7: we just finished.
Speaker 1: My quarterback is mulling a VP run with an insane person.
Speaker 1: But the idea that you would pair Winston and let
Speaker 1: Flacco walk is one of the crazier moves I've seen
Speaker 1: so far this week.
Speaker 3: I don't like it.
Speaker 7: They did add they did keep Zadarias Smith, which I
Speaker 7: think is very important to edge rust the pastor across
Speaker 7: from Miles Garrett.
Speaker 5: He was a big difference last year.
Speaker 1: Is everyone because Flacco hasn't obviously you haven't heard his
Speaker 1: name connected anywhere. Is everyone of the belief that that
Speaker 1: was just a little hot streak.
Speaker 5: And he's now no longer.
Speaker 1: He said he wants to start.
Speaker 7: I mean, any quarterback would say that Cleveland seemed like
Speaker 7: the logical spot he wanted to go to.
Speaker 6: He's been connected with the Titans I think would be
Speaker 6: a good backup spot.
Speaker 1: Yes, you mentioned Smith. Maurice Hurst. Niheim Hines running back
Speaker 1: also joins that room. Of course, Nick Chubb coming back
Speaker 1: from a really ugly knee injury and subsequent surgery. Afternoon Delight,
Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Delight thou the afternoon, either the morning or
Speaker 1: the night. It's not the afternoon, Gregee. Lavonte David stays
Speaker 1: with the Bucks. Wow, he's a Bucks lifer, just like
Speaker 1: Mikey Evans. The Rams spring back, cornerback Darius Williams, Kenny
Speaker 1: Moore staying in Indy on a three year, thirty million
Speaker 1: dollar deal, and the Panthers continue their spending guard Damian Lewis,
Speaker 1: linebacker Josie Jewel and also Ashawn Robinson.
Speaker 3: Anything are spending a ton of money.
Speaker 6: Damian Lewis got a big contract, so they gave two
Speaker 6: huge contracts.
Speaker 3: The interior alignment.
Speaker 6: They think that's the key to keeping their diminutive quarterback up.
Speaker 7: Right, Does any t even bring back X safeties and
Speaker 7: cornerbacks more than the Rams?
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 6: They done it with playing well with Jacksonville and yeah,
Speaker 6: but now he's playing he's going back.
Speaker 1: The Titans signed former charges first round pick Kenneth Murray,
Speaker 1: the Bills bring back day Kwon Jones. The Chiefs signed
Speaker 1: Deon Bush to a new deal, and Irv Smith welcome aboard.
Speaker 1: So there's a new piece of the offense for Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: The tight end Veterans tight end. Bears signed tight end
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett, Eagles signed Devonte Parker formerly of the Pats.
Speaker 1: Packers bring back all pro return slot corner Accusian Nixon.
Speaker 5: Anything on those.
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes restructured his contract to open up a lot
Speaker 6: of space as we enter the new league here on Wednesday,
Speaker 6: where trades could happen. Just something to keep an eye
Speaker 6: on with the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: Nice, We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: To Club Shame.
Speaker 1: Boom well Blue Boo Boo boo boo. I had this, Losers,
Speaker 1: we lost. I had the are losers feeling.
Speaker 7: Mounting feeling that we were brought there by corporate types
Speaker 7: because we're going to win. But then when we got
Speaker 7: there to this this actual predicted Yes. Well when you
Speaker 7: when I because I was like, there's no way Shannon
Speaker 7: Sharp's coming this, but they flew us here. But then
Speaker 7: the minute Shannon Sharp like walk through the doorway. And
Speaker 7: then when we also found out that there was a
Speaker 7: roped off section for a level of talent. Yeah, and
Speaker 7: we were not allowed into that ropes off section. We're
Speaker 7: winning this.
Speaker 1: That's when the first class and champagne days were over.
Speaker 1: When I saw literal red velvet ropes and a gleaming
Speaker 1: white couch for one of our competitors, and while we
Speaker 1: were stuck amongst the riff raff, I said, I don't
Speaker 1: think this is going our way, And sure enough you
Speaker 1: would say, wowsh club Shasha. You know that was a
Speaker 1: big Shannon Sharp. The Cat Williams interview, that was, you know,
Speaker 1: the viral hit of the year. I can't believe they
Speaker 1: beat the Kelsey Brothers. Well, then the next category was
Speaker 1: best Podcast of the Year. Kelsey Brothers took that home.
Speaker 1: They had a video recording of Travis and Jason with
Speaker 1: just the veagus idea what they were even accepting, especially Travis.
Speaker 1: Travis seemed to be completely in another world. But congratulations
Speaker 1: to all the winners, right, it is an honor to
Speaker 1: be an on DoD as you heard from that crew.
Speaker 1: Those are all huge podcasts. So the iHeart Podcast Awards,
Speaker 1: we were there.
Speaker 5: It was cool. We thank iHeart and they flew us
Speaker 5: down there not to win.
Speaker 1: That's the last time I ever go to award show
Speaker 1: and don't win. And if that means I don't go
Speaker 1: to another award show, so be it. But I will
Speaker 1: never go and lose.
Speaker 7: There was because there was a point where we were like, wait,
Speaker 7: or have other losers been flown here?
Speaker 1: Right? We started asking We started at a certain point
Speaker 1: after a couple of drinks.
Speaker 5: Is the open bar was open? You start asking hard questions.
Speaker 1: It was like, is there anyone else connected with a
Speaker 1: podcast nominated that's not a winner tonight?
Speaker 3: And literally that's standing right.
Speaker 7: And I came to the conclusion that we were alone
Speaker 7: in that category and that maybe they were behind the scenes,
Speaker 7: like you know, the ruse was on and we were
Speaker 7: being snickered out through the whole forty eight hour process.
Speaker 5: It was sorious individual.
Speaker 6: I did not share your guys's optimism. Even on the
Speaker 6: way there, I was hiding behind the like, hey, one
Speaker 6: in five chants like I wouldn't give us any more
Speaker 6: than that, Why would you expect to?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Probably in my heart, I if I had known Shannon
Speaker 3: Sharp was there.
Speaker 6: That was That was the moment where that we didn't
Speaker 6: have a chance. And yes, they have all these roped
Speaker 6: off good couches and they have different personalities. Kyle McLaughlin
Speaker 6: was there, Chris Pine was there, Adam Devine, popular podcaster
Speaker 6: or YouTuber, Bobby Altaf was there and there, and I
Speaker 6: just you know, I'm someone who wants to find out
Speaker 6: and just make sure even though it sure didn't seem
Speaker 6: like we had access to those couches. But Dan witnessed,
Speaker 6: you know what what he termed a very embarrassing moment
Speaker 6: of me. I wasn't gonna bring it up, making sure
Speaker 6: that we couldn't get into those couches, and you know,
Speaker 6: seeing if I could get in there, and I was
Speaker 6: told no, my I did not have access to that.
Speaker 6: And I thought, well, at least I got my boy
Speaker 6: Dan backing me up here. But Dan Dan quietly walked
Speaker 6: away from me as I well.
Speaker 1: Once I saw the like the six foot eight, three
Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound bouncer type dude in front of
Speaker 1: the velvet ropes give a greg a look like what like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a just about a half step back here,
Speaker 1: not to be connected to a very low moment in history,
Speaker 1: and the mean look did it didn't my pride a
Speaker 1: tiny bit, like a tiny bit, But I think the
Speaker 1: calculation was worth it.
Speaker 6: If I haven't hadn't even three percent chance of sitting
Speaker 6: on that couch for the show instead of standing.
Speaker 3: I wanted to find out for sure. I wanted to
Speaker 3: make sure.
Speaker 5: Always ask someone else to ask. Is one of the
Speaker 5: good new from that situation.
Speaker 1: If you're if your talent, especially, don't don't actually be
Speaker 1: the one like sir, can.
Speaker 3: I get behind Well, I you know my plan.
Speaker 5: I think you.
Speaker 1: Actually had to say we're talent, which is a tough
Speaker 1: to say that we're talent.
Speaker 3: I don't think I go back there. I didn't say that.
Speaker 6: I My plan was to just walk in there confidently,
Speaker 6: because that's a it's a lesson in less that if
Speaker 6: you're going somewhere you you're not supposed to be just
Speaker 6: look like you belong. But he stepped, he stepped forward,
Speaker 6: and the rope was unless the guy that looks like.
Speaker 5: I don't. Yeah, yeah, humbling experience on various fronts. We do.
Speaker 1: We did get And like I said, congratulations to Shannon Sharpe.
Speaker 6: You know what, he was very He made a very
Speaker 6: heartfelt speech that actually showed it meant a lot to
Speaker 6: him and knows like, Okay, you gotta give it to him.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I do would say we have to give it
Speaker 1: to him, but I would say, you know, he did.
Speaker 1: He's had a meteoric rise in the industry. And good
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 5: He's club Shaysha follows him everywhere he goes. He did.
Speaker 1: He did have something to say about us as well.
Speaker 3: I called the president President, we need a national guard.
Speaker 5: We need as many mean as you can spare.
Speaker 1: Coup we are killing them heroes.
Speaker 6: Now that's turned into a low moment in Patriots history
Speaker 6: and my own personal histories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, cool open bar had some good barbecue
Speaker 1: before Terry Blacks with their old buddy Matt Tanton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and another experience, another notch on the belt.
Speaker 5: Humbling, but also.
Speaker 7: Well it also it instills in us a sense of revenge.
Speaker 7: We'll be back. I think that's what I think. They
Speaker 7: little they little fire under.
Speaker 6: Our shoulders, you said, Dan, as this was happening, This
Speaker 6: is just so perfect for our podcast. It just makes
Speaker 6: so much sense how how it all sort of played out,
Speaker 6: and you know what, and we and we talked about
Speaker 6: it afterwards too. That was a scene because it was
Speaker 6: a strange, you know, it was an award show. It
Speaker 6: was it was strange to be there. On some level,
Speaker 6: we thought Chris Chris would have really gotten a kick
Speaker 6: out of it.
Speaker 3: Slash been disgusted by it. We probably enjoyed it in
Speaker 3: the end. It would have.
Speaker 1: Probably it was an open bar. Chris would have enjoyed
Speaker 1: that as well. I think it would have been. I
Speaker 1: think we all were enjoying the It was kind of
Speaker 1: an outrageous scene the way, and it was live, It
Speaker 1: streamed live and everything. So anyway, like my wife was
Speaker 1: watching it live at my son's little league game, so
Speaker 1: she got to see a lose.
Speaker 7: And she doesn't listen to a single episode of the pod,
Speaker 7: so that kind of you got her to participate.
Speaker 5: That's true, And I did.
Speaker 1: I sent a text because I had alerted my parents
Speaker 1: that we were going to be in Texas and we
Speaker 1: were up for an award, And when I texted Devin
Speaker 1: Keith that we lost to share Shannon Sharp. My father's response,
Speaker 1: sponsor is always his texting is always as many men age,
Speaker 1: very taut.
Speaker 5: It's very straight to the point. We lost the Shan
Speaker 5: Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 3: I never cared for him.
Speaker 1: I don't take it. I don't feel that way about Shannon.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad that dad has as our back.
Speaker 5: Oh. He also added, I didn't see this.
Speaker 1: One and bad on predictions, so kind of get ah
Speaker 1: okay in terms of his punditry as well.
Speaker 5: I thought he meant our prediction that we were going
Speaker 5: to win also bad.
Speaker 1: All right, anything else we got tomorrow is the official
Speaker 1: start of the league year. Now I feel like we're
Speaker 1: doing too many shows. We're gonna do a Tomorrow's show
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what comes after that. But make
Speaker 1: sure you tune in because we're going to have what's
Speaker 1: out what's out there?
Speaker 5: What's the biggest thing still out there?
Speaker 7: I'd say, I don't think anything gonna happen to like
Speaker 7: the Justin Field situation.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a little strange for.
Speaker 6: Justin Okay, So only six of the top twenty five
Speaker 6: are available even starting that list or the six on Monday,
Speaker 6: and that that's like a list the top. The entire
Speaker 6: top thirteen off the original list are gone. But who
Speaker 6: are the six and from my top twenty five? Tyrant Smith,
Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley, Kendall Fuller, Marquise Brown not much of a
Speaker 6: market for him, Stefan Gilmour, Chase Young who is reportedly
Speaker 6: going to take a couple of visits in uric Armstead,
Speaker 6: who probably shouldn't even be on this list because it
Speaker 6: was reported he was going to be released. I have
Speaker 6: some doubts whether this is going to actually happen on Wednesday.
Speaker 6: But that's uh, that's the six, But seventeen of the
Speaker 6: top fifty forty six of the one oh one overall,
Speaker 6: these are you.
Speaker 7: Know, we are getting to the point where like, yeah,
Speaker 7: we can make a four hundred and seventy five item
Speaker 7: news list, but a lot of the big names.
Speaker 3: No. But here's what good happen?
Speaker 6: Is like that Mahomes restructuring that I mentioned, the trades,
Speaker 6: anything kind of surprising on the trade front, I think
Speaker 6: still could happen Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 1: One week prediction. What's happened?
Speaker 5: One big signing or trader.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'll say, I'll mention you have Smith at
Speaker 1: top your list, Harry Smith. Yeah, Jet's been big on him,
Speaker 1: and bring in Smith.
Speaker 5: That's my prediction. Justin Jefferson has moved.
Speaker 3: Oh Stow, now you're just getting old, the old Sessler.
Speaker 5: Hail Mary at it again.
Speaker 7: There are a little little chirpings and whispers out there
Speaker 7: that I mentioned.
Speaker 5: That's how you'd hate.
Speaker 6: Our friend wrote up Pat how we you know, lost
Speaker 6: to Club Shasha and he said it was probably his
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert for four first round picks prediction that that.
Speaker 5: That hurt us.
Speaker 1: The voters did make just seem curious voters had mentioned
Speaker 1: Pats Herbert talk.
Speaker 6: I think I think we get a Chargers trade. I
Speaker 6: think we get a Joey Bosa trade. If we want
Speaker 6: to get wildly specific, let's go Joey Bosa to the Niners,
Speaker 6: even though they've signed a couple of passers. Why not,
Speaker 6: you know, team up the Bosa brothers. I saw, you know,
Speaker 6: how about.
Speaker 5: The Chiefs make a substantial move on offense?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, they've done very little. How about like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll do something with them. The realm of real Branda
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 5: Traded to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Wow, they couldn't do now there are whispers about Ayuk, Yes, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: there are, and they have a needed wide receiver.
Speaker 7: Like the I don't I don't like the I don't
Speaker 7: like them doing that in general. It's like then they're
Speaker 7: one injury away from having exactly the opposite of what
Speaker 7: they had last year.
Speaker 3: Patriots and to the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: I've read if they lose out on the Calvin Ridley
Speaker 6: sweep steaks, they could dive into the trade market. They're
Speaker 6: just sort of like trying to plug holes and they
Speaker 6: might try to get in on the t Higgins or
Speaker 6: Ayuk or on a lower level Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: Something and nothing from the Cowboys seems weird. I feel
Speaker 1: like they're gonna want to make a splash. That's yeah.
Speaker 7: They got like Dak Prescott's brother tweeting ill words about
Speaker 7: the Cowboys front office compared to the Eagles.
Speaker 1: All Right, we don't need to envy the Eagles after
Speaker 1: that last season. Everyone's so quick to just dive back
Speaker 1: in on the Eagles.
Speaker 5: I know, but we lose.
Speaker 1: It's like aragon of how an agency is like like
Speaker 1: watch the mental Disorder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does. All right, that's it. Let's go, let's
Speaker 5: get out of you. It's time. It's been a long day,
Speaker 5: it's been a long three days. But we'll be back.
Speaker 5: Until then, either call