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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names.

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Speaker 2: I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation

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Speaker 2: highlight reels starting now.

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Speaker 3: Now Julis breaks down now NFL contracts actually work. This

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Speaker 3: is from Brian Kamet on YouTube. I'd love a segment

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Speaker 3: on any quote dangerous things players aren't allowed to do

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Speaker 3: while under NFL contract, either in season or out of season,

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Speaker 3: like ride a motorcycle.

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Speaker 2: Well, they can specifically negotia or they can specifically put

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Speaker 2: in things like motorcycle if they know that person is

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Speaker 2: a motorcycle driver. But they have one thing that covers everything.

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Speaker 2: If you get hurt doing something other than football, you

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Speaker 2: could lose your money any just.

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Speaker 1: Like if you get hurt, yeah, set out so like.

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Speaker 2: Skiing, parachuting, this that you know, playing basketball, pickup ball,

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Speaker 2: if you get hurt, technically they they don't have to

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Speaker 2: pay you.

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Speaker 1: What about training if it's like, see.

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Speaker 2: That's where the gray area is because you're trying to

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Speaker 2: better yourself for the sport. Because I've hurt myself in training,

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Speaker 2: but they covered that. Okay, but if you're gonna you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, But it's it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: gray area unless they specifically say it in certain things

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Speaker 2: in certain people's contracts. Because remember Drew came on here

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Speaker 2: and said he went skiing even though he wasn't supposed to.

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Speaker 1: Oh forgot about that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like in theory, you could be like dude, skydiving's part

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Speaker 3: of my training routine.

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Speaker 1: I can scuba scuba. What's all the same? Ye got

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Speaker 1: the whole point. Okay. Do you know of any.

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Speaker 4: Specific instances where you came across people getting certain things

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Speaker 4: like uh put in their contract that they can't do,

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Speaker 4: like Chris Cogan can't play lacrosse.

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Speaker 1: I don't, they don't. I didn't. No one talked about

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Speaker 1: that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, like maybe JPP no firecrackers.

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Speaker 3: Fourth of July, the GM calls you doing over there, JPB.

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Speaker 3: What's on tap for today?

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Speaker 1: Little man?

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Speaker 2: It's it's so I get so scared whenever I light

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Speaker 2: the fireworks now because of that. Fireworks are dangerous, man.

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Speaker 2: My dad used to say it all the time. Blow

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Speaker 2: your fingers right off. Frank was right, it will Oh

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Speaker 2: my god. Stick to the sparklers.

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Speaker 3: Sparklers say for all you want to get into the

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Speaker 3: next one, next one from I know the dangerous stuff.

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Speaker 1: I know we love can't do anything business.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna blo up anyone spot at the irony

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Speaker 4: of this coming this episode.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, sorry, oh my goodness, no, this is a

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Speaker 3: ten terrorst episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Oh oh wait, because we went on a

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Speaker 1: dirt bike ride.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh gosh, I forgot about that. We didn't go

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Speaker 2: on dirt It was like we're on Super seventy three.

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Speaker 1: It was a simulation. It's like a Travis Postroana backflips.

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Speaker 1: I just d Did he not know how to drive it?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's surprising to me.

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Speaker 1: Nothing like some good peer pressure lied too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, drive deer bikes, you see. Treat me like an

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Speaker 2: older brother or something, or like it was.

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Speaker 1: Very nervous about peer pressure coming here. Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: I will not put into Julian's peer pressure. He folded

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Speaker 1: like a laun chair. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Next, we have a YouTube comment question from Jelly eight

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Speaker 3: ninety nine. Do you get paid extra for appearing in

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Speaker 3: the TV network's pregame hype videos like they have leading

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Speaker 3: up to the Super Bowl or other big games?

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Speaker 4: What do you mean like when you're like in uniform,

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Speaker 4: like holding a ball on like Sunday Night football, and

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Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I'm looking cool. No, does that happen

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Speaker 4: before the game? Does that happen at the beginning of

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 2: That happens usually the week you're still at your home stadium.

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Speaker 2: So NFL for the Super Bowl, right when you get

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Speaker 2: to the n Super Bowl, you get there a week early.

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Speaker 2: You have like a day dedicated for certain guys to

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Speaker 1: That's just like a green screen, like in a room.

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Speaker 1: It's like a green screen. They'll bring in a group

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Speaker 2: We do it pre season for our team, individual stadium

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Speaker 2: you kind of do that same thing but for the

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Speaker 2: network whoever's hosting it in the NFL that week.

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Speaker 1: So you do that before the week, you don't get

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Speaker 4: Now, what about for just like a regular like Sunday

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Speaker 4: Night Football, because they do some media stuff for that too.

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Speaker 1: Is that beginning of the year. That's the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the year, and like NBC will come in and shoot

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Speaker 1: with some people. No, you do like that.

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Speaker 2: Our team, I think our team's production will take stuff

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Speaker 2: for NBC or NBCBS for Fox because.

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Speaker 1: They know the schedules, the schedule. That's your media day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you do it like four different for like

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Speaker 2: you do it for like different things.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, that's all pre.

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Speaker 3: I always like seeing it that when there's a guy

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Speaker 2: So you can always tell who didn't go to those

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Speaker 2: days because they have the same one from the year before.

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Speaker 2: They just you look at Brady, I think his was

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Speaker 2: from like eight years ago. He had to finally do

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Speaker 2: new ones when you went to Tampa.

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Speaker 4: But what about the old like Monday night football where

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Speaker 4: it's like you just like it's the cutout and you

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Speaker 4: say your name, you say where you're from rand University.

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Speaker 1: So you do that that day, you do that before

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Speaker 1: before the season. Oh wow, so you got to play

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Speaker 1: in your joke high school? Like yeah, early task, which

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Speaker 1: I got to go early with it. You say Kent

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Speaker 1: State couple, I said college. I never used him though,

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I never I never thought about it going into like

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about the team we were playing, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Yeah, but like I never thought

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Speaker 2: sam Mateo for one Kent State, and I just did

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Speaker 2: like Redwood City and I just did one that said

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Speaker 2: ty k mote. I think it's like fight till death

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Speaker 2: and like either Simon or so cool. But it was

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Speaker 2: like it was thing we all used to say, and

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Speaker 2: our football team's back in the Bay. We would be like,

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Speaker 2: I love that, so like we would we made it

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Speaker 2: kind of like a figure of speech, like you're part of.

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Speaker 1: That's tight, And there was anyone being like what the

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Speaker 1: fuck is that? Just say your guy? Yeah, the guy

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Speaker 1: you just say Kent State, asshole. You do Kent State?

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Speaker 3: Last, Yeah, you do the give in the straight line

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Speaker 3: one last, Yeah you go the Kent State University.

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Speaker 2: Oh, because you know they're going to keep that. So

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Speaker 2: but you can get off like five or six.

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Speaker 1: Get some phone. Was like all right, cool, slappy. Julian

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Speaker 1: Edelman Red with City Julian Redwood City, forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like the guy in the picture day,

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Speaker 3: the guy taking in school and he's like all right,

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Speaker 3: like just get the one I can show your mom

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Speaker 3: and like that you'll actually get a haircut for.

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Speaker 1: A picture day. That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you'd be fully off blast now catch up, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you go up in the locker room or you go

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Speaker 2: up in the bathroom and everyone's getting all cleaned up

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Speaker 2: and stuff for the fucking stupid ship.

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Speaker 1: We gotta do oh his picture day. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: see guys getting all cleaned up.

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Speaker 3: It's always funny when like a guy will be in

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You guys, like a lot of times you don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we love that because it sucks putting those

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Speaker 1: It looks Goofy's.

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Speaker 3: Now. Jewels takes us through what travel is really like

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Speaker 5: Hey, Julian Kyler back, if you could tell us, uh,

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Speaker 5: what it's like on an NFL road trip? No, no basketball, baseball, hockey,

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Speaker 5: a lot of games to be played. NFL not so much.

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Speaker 5: You guys go home, stay out there, and uh, what's

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Speaker 2: So in the NFL, are away trips are business trips.

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Speaker 2: It's not like NBA baseball hockey where these guys have

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Speaker 2: We have curfew the night before the game. Yeah, night

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Speaker 2: And it's also because we have night meetings. So like

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Speaker 2: when we travel, usually Sunday, we'll have a walk through

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Speaker 2: They have tables of all the food that you get

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Speaker 2: We had lovely flight attendants always that were with us

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Speaker 2: I'd get to my seat, which we're hearing about how

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Speaker 2: the plane was right now.

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Speaker 1: We used to have, you.

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Speaker 1: How you do it, and you go to your area.

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Speaker 2: They'd have your favorite stuff that you like, and then

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Speaker 2: what I mean. So you're watching and we didn't get

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Speaker 2: and then you have like treatments. At every hotel, there'll

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Speaker 1: Yo lottery. It'd be like a g oh, he smokes

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Speaker 2: First off, Uh, you're around the team and your schedule

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Speaker 2: after depending and then also the recovery time depending on

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Speaker 2: what if with the ACL what they use. Are you

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Speaker 2: using cadaver or using a hamstring tenant or using pteller tenant,

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Speaker 2: But teller tenant's a longer recovery but a less rerupture rate.

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Speaker 2: I believe, uh, you know that that could all change.

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Speaker 2: That all changes in every few years. That's what I

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Speaker 2: was told. But it's that's like, that's the race man.

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Speaker 1: What's the agent doing. Like, so the agent's communicating with the.

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Speaker 2: Team's communicating with team, so like he'll say, hey, do

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Speaker 2: you want to get a second opinion, And I'll say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: set it up, okay, So he'll hit up agent, will

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Speaker 2: hit up team and second doctor and have put everything

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Speaker 2: together so you have multi you can have anyone do

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Speaker 2: your surgery. That's you know, the league will take care

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Speaker 2: of that. Now if you're on the active roster.

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Speaker 4: Has there ever been like an instance that you've seen

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Speaker 4: where the second opinion is like vastly different, and it

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Speaker 4: becomes the thing that they have to work through.

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Speaker 2: You got to take all that with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 2: Some of these doctors just want to, oh, be the

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Speaker 2: guy I saw all right, buddy, I gotta do it,

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Speaker 2: or what.

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Speaker 1: My cut?

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Speaker 5: Or not?

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Speaker 1: Shoot me straight, doctor, shoot me straight? About right about that.

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Speaker 4: Because there have been some instances in the history of

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Speaker 4: sports with like players having discrimined that had that.

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Speaker 2: Like a c O is such a routine freaking injury.

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Speaker 2: Now thirty years ago were different. Forty years ago you

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Speaker 2: know you're retiring. Yeah, now it's like Tommy John you

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Speaker 2: come back strong, crazy, No, I went to teller tenant.

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Speaker 2: No one does to kid ever when you're playing, Okay,

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Speaker 2: cadaver is the most rerupture rate. It's usually for like

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Speaker 2: the non athletic people that are or people that are

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Speaker 2: not going to like physically demand their knee.

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Speaker 1: So Kurt probably went cold. Ever definitely could or hamstring tenant.

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of guys don't want to mess with

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Speaker 2: their hamstring tenant because we're speed guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, don't want to touch any of that.

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Speaker 4: And so if you are in a schedule where you

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Speaker 4: are in the facility or you're younger and you're near

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Speaker 4: the team. You're going to games too, you're in the

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Speaker 4: facility during games, but not probably traveling with team.

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Speaker 2: We didn't travel as hurt guys. Like my year when

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Speaker 2: I tore my a C I was, I was there,

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Speaker 2: but I wasn't. I was rehabbing, like all day. It

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Speaker 2: was rehabb you know what I mean. So like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's a it's a lonely It can be

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Speaker 2: a lonely place for an athlete is when you're hurt.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine. Man, Man, that was awesome. The

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Speaker 1: calls are great. Always keep them coming, guys.

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Speaker 4: I love those inside baseball like deep dives, like inside

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Speaker 4: of the life of a professional athlete. Like we had

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Speaker 4: a clip when you talked about travel that did really well.

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Speaker 4: So more of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, hey, oh they don't test for

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Speaker 2: weed no more. But hey, they took away our pension.

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Speaker 1: We won that one. We won that one, guys.

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Speaker 3: Now we got jewels telling us about the worst workout

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Speaker 3: the players had to do.

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Speaker 1: Soonch for you man.

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Speaker 3: Nick Fleetwood twenty one forty six said, jewels, what is

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Speaker 3: one lift slash workout you will never do again, I e.

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Speaker 1: Hill springs, tire flips, et cetera. About runs, Oh, I've

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Speaker 1: heard of those. I'm never doing bout runs again. What

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Speaker 1: is about run?

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Speaker 2: A bout run is where you have to run hunter.

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Speaker 2: So you start on one goal line and you run

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Speaker 2: to the other goal line for three straight minutes and

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Speaker 2: you have to get seven hundred and eighty five yards,

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Speaker 2: so you have to go touch the line, go back,

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Speaker 2: and it's just a constant run. But the slowing and

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Speaker 2: stopping down I think you have to average like sixteen

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Speaker 2: miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: It's fucking it's hard.

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Speaker 2: So you said it's three minutes three minutes to do

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Speaker 2: like seven hundred and eighty five yards.

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Speaker 1: So then like that's down and back like seven and

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Speaker 1: more and a half times. So then three times like

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Speaker 1: the whistible down back stop, and it's like if you

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Speaker 1: haven't reached here, if you do, if you don't stop,

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Speaker 1: you don't make it. What's the ramifications for son who

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Speaker 1: doesn't get there?

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Speaker 2: Uh, you may have to go and do more extra sprints,

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Speaker 2: like you may have to like come in and there's

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Speaker 2: like an earth, there's fat camp, and then there's like

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Speaker 2: non conditioning camp. And so sometimes guys that aren't in

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Speaker 2: conditioning or don't make the conditioning test, like this is

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Speaker 2: off season usually, but if you don't make the conditioning test,

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Speaker 2: you have to wake up at five am or you

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Speaker 2: have to be at the facility at five am and

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Speaker 2: do conditioning before the day starts until you pass the

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Speaker 2: conditioning test.

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Speaker 1: More like, huh, how about we ever do these again?

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Speaker 1: How about we never do these again?

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Speaker 3: I've missed you, Jack, Yeah, I just renamed them for

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Speaker 3: your coach. Let's do we got any more than here?

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Speaker 3: That jump out to you guys, do like one more.

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Speaker 2: Some soccer shit though, Like we're not soccer guy, we're

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Speaker 2: fucking the lineup.

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Speaker 1: We're like dragsters.

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Speaker 3: Perfect segue, Okay, perfect segue, perfect segue from Darren Shields eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Would be great to get a football soccer player on

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Speaker 3: here to do the best game ever. So he's referring

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Speaker 3: to football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got beautiful game. We gotta get some some football.

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Speaker 3: We've only had Brandy so far. Yeah, that's wild. We

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Speaker 3: gotta get our numbers up. We gotta get Harry Kane

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Speaker 3: on this bitch. You got to man Byron Munich. Maybe

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Speaker 3: we gotta fly over to Germany. Games with names Deutschland.

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Speaker 1: I know that'd be tight.

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Speaker 3: That'd be tight. Let's see this one here, Jules. This

548
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Speaker 3: is from the Stave episode, a recent fan favorite. Man

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Speaker 3: I wish I was here for that one in Perse

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Speaker 3: This is from c Donk as a diehard Pats fan.

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Speaker 3: I love Edelman, but ranch with Greek food is a disgrace.

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Speaker 3: It's when I order Greek.

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Speaker 2: I'm not like going to a fucking Greek restaurant bringing

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Speaker 2: a hidden valley little pocket ranch with me.

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Speaker 1: You know, I keep that thing on me.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna like a good ranch with like a kebab

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Speaker 2: chicken kebab and shit?

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Speaker 1: Who I think it's good? Say a note of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Okay, I'm gonna take the.

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Speaker 3: Kid out of the jailor, but he can't take the

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Speaker 3: jailer out the kid at his core, it's a creamy

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Speaker 3: sauce with some zaesz.

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Speaker 1: Baby what cover I mean? I'm with you on this one.

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Speaker 1: I'll defend your tooth and nail. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm also a guy who loves a one on everything too,

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Speaker 2: so judge me.

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Speaker 3: If you want shout out a one sauce, shout out

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Speaker 3: on one auto.

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Speaker 1: Steak a right without the AA.

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Speaker 2: So I stayed, dipped the sauce and they come bars.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 4: Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new

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Speaker 4: episode and every Sunday for another.

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