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Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised. Welcome back, mum. Well there he

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Speaker 1: is on a little MacBook screen. What are you doing

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Speaker 1: out there? Where are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Where are you at? I'm in Alaska? Still? Oh?

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 1: Well? I had to change our flights. It's a logistical

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Speaker 1: nightmare of folks. It's a thing. It takes a long

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Speaker 1: you kind of just got to make it work. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever needed a haircut as bad as

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Speaker 1: I do right now, and I'm just turning into this

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Speaker 1: Alaskan mountain man. I am just incapable of growing facial hair.

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Speaker 1: But if you can see it, which I hope you can't,

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Speaker 1: it's this weird stubble that kind of accumulates over time.

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Speaker 1: that can never complete a full beard. I'm thirty six

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Speaker 1: and I can't grow a beard. It's embarrassing. I hate it.

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Speaker 1: It's a little patch right here that just never wants

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Speaker 1: and it just refuses to grow. First world problems. But

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Speaker 1: we're out here in Alaska still Mike is not well.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the office and it's dinner time, so I'm

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Speaker 1: Guys looks like you just three zero pm. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about how fun your flight was yesterday. Though it

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Speaker 1: had to be a blast.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you about the second flight after I

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Speaker 2: flew what is it five hours from Anchorage to Seattle,

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Speaker 2: then five more hours from Seattle to Atlanta overnight, so

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Speaker 2: I landed. I got home at six twenty am, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to get a new man. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. Ever since you've left, we've got a little

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Speaker 1: You never cooked breakfast anyway. No, I think it's one

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Speaker 1: any hour of the day. But hey, we're here and

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Speaker 1: today I have a really fun guest. His name is

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Speaker 1: Derek Hayes. This guy is pretty much a local Atlanta

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Speaker 1: He actually sent me a DM a few months ago

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Speaker 1: Kay's episode six. Well thanks for coming, man, No, man,

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Speaker 1: that's that's let's make this history. I uh just been

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Speaker 3: Well, my name is Derek Ky's aka Big Dave. A

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Speaker 3: lot of people call me Big Dave. That's my dad.

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Speaker 3: I named my business at them.

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Speaker 3: He passed away from lung cancer in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big guy, but he was a big guy,

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Speaker 3: So I represent the big name.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a kid out of West Philly going and

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Speaker 1: And that's what I did. It's really you kind of

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Speaker 3: Yes, always listen. I tell people as good as I

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Speaker 3: like it's people in my company that didn't have resources

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Speaker 3: So that's bigger than the dollar. That's bigger than the

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Speaker 3: This gives at least a percentage, a good amount of

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Speaker 1: Coming in a big day, says them.

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Speaker 3: That's the way I look at it.

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Speaker 1: Is that one of the things that I mean, because

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Speaker 1: it's really hard, I'm sure what you're doing is not easy, right,

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Speaker 1: a certain point, you know, do you have to realign

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Speaker 3: So let me tell you you already achieve all of

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Speaker 3: that's real interesting. So I'm gonna tell you the part

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Speaker 3: the level and that comes through believing in your people.

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Speaker 3: So the upside of what I'm doing that don't feel

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Speaker 3: like the job is I love motivating people. That's easy

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Speaker 3: So that part to me is not even work. That's

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Speaker 1: That charge you doing that? Yeah? Hell yah?

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Speaker 3: Charge me. Like if I'm not doing that, I'm stagnant.

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Speaker 1: So who motivates you?

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Speaker 1: So you get your motivation from your own motivation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like people look at the biggest people

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Speaker 3: You know, I've seen them, you know, transition that into

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Speaker 1: You can't please everybody.

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know. The water boys in Atlanta

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you how much I bought into them

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Speaker 3: So when I drove past them, I was like, man, listen,

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Speaker 1: They won't recently gave I gave them twenty bucks for it, yeah,

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Speaker 3: But yes, but they got there, like no he got yo,

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Speaker 3: they just was in the right moments of life, you know,

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Speaker 3: they would have the opportunities to be able to show

437
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Speaker 3: people who they really are as human beings. That's how

438
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 3: we look at everything when it comes to the community

439
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 3: driven give back of the society that we live in.

440
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 3: Because if you look at all the four walls around

441
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 3: the United States right now, all of it is broken

442
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 3: down into basically stages. When it comes to your net worth,

443
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 3: what do you mean your environment is around what your

444
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: household income is. And I think those things when you

445
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 3: be able to take a kid outside of a lower

446
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: class income neighborhood, right and you put them in a

447
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 3: just say, if you put them in an average income

448
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: neighborhood of one hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred thousand dollars,

449
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: that leap of a jump will be able to give him.

450
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: It is like an aliu to a slam dunk, because

451
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 3: that's like taking a kid that was in a two

452
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand dout of a medium income neighborhood

453
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Speaker 3: to living in a two million to five million dollar

454
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 3: medium income neighborhood. You know what I'm saying, The level

455
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 3: of opportunity changes. And now I think what I'm doing

456
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 3: and what I'm going to do is keep giving those

457
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Speaker 3: level of opportunities to be able to help the brand.

458
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Speaker 3: And that's why I'm franchising right now, which is.

459
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Speaker 1: An amazing idea. Also applaud you for doing that. I

460
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: thinks it's really cool and it's exciting to say it

461
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: all coming together. How important has it been for you

462
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Speaker 1: to infuse black culture into your businesses and just even

463
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Speaker 1: from a you know, branding standpoint to a lifestyle to

464
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Speaker 1: everything or like involving the community, because that's how I

465
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: look at it, and it seems like you're doing it

466
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Speaker 1: the best way possible. I mean, how important is it

467
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Speaker 1: to you?

468
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: Is really because if you look at the way I

469
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 3: built the Big Dave's brand, you got food, but everything

470
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: outside that food is corridors to something else, like you

471
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 3: got the culture in rap music, you got the culture

472
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 3: in sports, you got the culture in business, you got

473
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: the culture in philanthropy, you got the culture in speaking.

474
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: You know, all of those elements of power comes into

475
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: that one element of the empire, food And I was

476
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: able to take all of those things and make people

477
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 3: fall in love with all of those areas. And that's

478
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: how I built the brand. I made the culture understand

479
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: that this is a business that sells sandwiches, but it's

480
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 3: bigger than that. Right Because I was a kid that

481
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 3: you know, America could have looked at to say, you know,

482
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Speaker 3: maybe didn't see those expectations for me, or maybe did

483
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: I see them, didn't see them for myself. But when

484
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: you get in certain opportunity levels, you able to say, okay,

485
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Speaker 3: wait a minute, I was getting tricked out of my spot.

486
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Speaker 3: I know that I can do this. And that's what

487
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 3: it did for me early on and in ninth grade,

488
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: going to add deaths, see how life works. If I

489
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: never seen that, I might not never believe that what

490
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm doing all the way right now because I don't

491
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Speaker 3: know that it's possible. That's why I said the level

492
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Speaker 3: opportunity always beats disbelief.

493
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Speaker 1: Do you ever feel pressure to my pressure? Man, that's

494
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Speaker 1: a response.

495
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I feel pressure, And I'm gonna tell

496
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 3: you why. Because so I got one hundred and forty

497
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Speaker 3: four lives in my hands, right, and that's my people,

498
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: my livelihoods. Yes, like, so outside of Big Daves, I've

499
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 3: built my life to be able to sustain everything that

500
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 3: I've got going on far as like I get paid

501
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: to speak, I got you know, real estate. You know,

502
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: I'm in a good position without my business, right, but

503
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: I worry about the livelihood of every single member under

504
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 3: any of my roof and my brand and outside my roofs,

505
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: and meaning to that. You don't never know how the economy,

506
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: you know, it hits, it goes up and down like

507
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: roller coasters. So there's a lot that's out of your control, right, Yeah,

508
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: So I take my best practice and being a good businessman,

509
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: a great CEO, and you know, making sure that my

510
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: business and my books and everything is in order so

511
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: that I survived the months where business might be slower.

512
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 3: Because listen, it's the difference between you got one location

513
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: and you're having a bad money if you got a

514
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 3: bad money on seven different things, man.

515
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Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I didn't know what that is, Like, Yeah,

516
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: it's doing the math here, So I guess you're just

517
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Speaker 1: timsing it by seven. Yeah, so it's like loss or

518
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Speaker 1: a big win, right, Yeah, you can have a big

519
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: loss of a big win.

520
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Speaker 3: But thankfully, you know, I've been having a lot of

521
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 3: big wins and this has been my winning season and

522
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: I'm going into my storm. Twenty twenty four is gonna

523
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Speaker 3: be my storm.

524
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Speaker 1: What's the storm?

525
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: The storm is going to be me franchising. The storm

526
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: is going to be more big daves getting built corporately.

527
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: The storm is going to be they see that the

528
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: brand just up get to the you know, a higher

529
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: level of what I've been doing through the year to

530
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 3: year and now this year, they actually going to see

531
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Speaker 3: that it's getting the roses that it always deserves. Because

532
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: sometimes you can have something really good and have it

533
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: too good too fast, and you gotta pivot right. And

534
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 3: I got a lot of popularity, you know, real fast

535
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: after you know a certain amount of time, and so

536
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: what do you do with that?

537
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: Because you feel like, hey, I gotta make sure I

538
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: make this ship work now and just celebrate too much

539
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: or what.

540
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: My passion, My passion was getting me through a lot

541
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: of years. Passion is not going to be the only

542
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: thing to get me to the top, right, It's going

543
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: to be understanding between wants and needs and the principles

544
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: of that. Because like I can, I can be sitting

545
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: here talking to you and my passion can be driven

546
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 3: so much at a high expectation level. But if I

547
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 3: don't go out and get the things and the tools

548
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: I need to get that's inside that passion that I

549
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: got built up, I still can't make.

550
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: The dream work. Then you're all talk.

551
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 3: I'm all talk, because then you're just a person that's

552
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: a dreamer. You ever heard somebody say maybe it's a

553
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 3: big dreamer.

554
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know some dreamers exactly a lot of people.

555
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: I think every single American or outside of America is

556
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: a dreamer. But what I'm saying is, like, how many

557
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: people are going to actually put the dream and drive.

558
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: So for you? How do you do that? Because everyone

559
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: always says, you know, stuff like believe in yourself and

560
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, But like, how do you actually take

561
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: that into an action?

562
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: I never said this publicly, and I'm gonna say to you.

563
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drop it to you, all right, This is

564
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: how I really feel about that question. I feel like

565
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: God didn't give me breath inside my body to waste time.

566
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: He bring me here to create, to create environments, opportunity

567
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: and everything that he built. As a student, I'm going

568
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: to become a teacher.

569
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: So you feel obligated with your life that you're given

570
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: to do this stuff. Yeah, I mean listen, well you're

571
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: blowing it no how you feel, right, yeah, because like

572
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: this is the whole thing. This is the whole thing, right,

573
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: So I was My friend just said this to me

574
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: last week, and it was very interesting. Some people think

575
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: about the next generation. Some people think about right now.

576
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: Some people are hustling for the next three hundred years.

577
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: I want to hustle for the next three hundred years

578
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: because if I hustle for the next three hundred years,

579
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 3: then my kids kids' kids are good. Do you know

580
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying?

581
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: You think about you thinking about the generation of your family,

582
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: and yes, your entire legacy essentially, right, So I.

583
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 3: Built So put it this way, just like you your parents

584
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 3: now built the generation that brung you in. Now you

585
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 3: carry the torch. It's like a baton like running track,

586
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: like you have to pass that to the next generation.

587
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: And then if you don't do that, that's when the

588
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: generational wealth gap happens and it comes into a disaster

589
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 3: of the generation because all of us may not know.

590
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: We may have came from generations hundred years ago that

591
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: actually was wealthy, right, you actually, and it just passed

592
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: to the wrong hand. It might have went to the

593
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 3: wrong hand. You just never know.

594
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: But if they did exactly how to create it.

595
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: So now that you created it, now that you know

596
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: these things, you know that shit. Honestly, maybe your kids

597
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: ain't as strong as you and be able to build

598
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: the same legacy you built, right, But if you teach

599
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: them how to carry that legacy, it's easier.

600
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: Listen.

601
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: I tell people this all the time. It's harder to

602
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: build an engine than it is to start a car.

603
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: So, yeah, do you know what I'm saying. I do. Yeah.

604
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: So if I can go ahead and start a car

605
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: and build that engine, I'm built it. I built the engine.

606
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: All you do is start the car and you and

607
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: you work on the next model coming out, because that

608
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: might have been built for you in front of you

609
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: and showed you the next legacy where you're supposed to chase. Now,

610
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: if I show you nothing. You got to start from scratch,

611
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: and I might not have made you strong enough to

612
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: do that, but I know I was.

613
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: Describe one of the hardest times in your career when

614
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: you were start out, busting your ass, grinding long hours,

615
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: probably not a lot of sleep, trying to make Dave's work,

616
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: Like what was that like? Trying to remember back when?

617
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Like because also I think the mentality is probably different

618
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: back then, because in that grind mode, when you've not

619
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: achieved that level of success like you have, I feel

620
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: like there's a in some ways, it's the mindset is

621
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: easier because you have almost nothing to lose. But now

622
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: you have something to lose because you've built so much.

623
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: Like but now you just have to like elevate and evolve.

624
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: But like, take me back to that time when you're like,

625
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: let's make this shit go.

626
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: So it's two different size to the coin it is, right,

627
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: So I'm a better entrepreneur and a better businessman than

628
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: I was then because I want those mistakes, because I

629
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: want to those experiences that you're talking about, that those

630
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: were the ugly truths of learning know how to actually

631
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: operate a business. Now I moved off of a lot

632
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: of panic back then, what do you mean there's something

633
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: go wrong? I gotta you know, like I'm all over

634
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: the place instead of just taking my time, Like the

635
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: route to a problem is understanding the solution of the problem.

636
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: You have to like if I now go to the

637
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: find the root of the problem right now, I have

638
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: to put a policy in place that fixed that problem.

639
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: Back then, I was fixing problems, and when I'm paying policy,

640
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: I was just fixing, like fix, fixed, fixed, fix. Now

641
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm fixing and paying policy so that don't happen again,

642
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: so that the company can grow, it can elevate, it

643
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: can turn into something else, because if I don't do

644
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: those things, then it becomes a popular disaster. And I

645
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: don't want to tell a popular story. I want to

646
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: tell a legendary story when I'm dead and gone. I

647
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: may I may not outlive this name of this brand, right,

648
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: but what I want is I want this brand to

649
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: live while I'm dead.

650
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: Why do you want that so badly?

651
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Because I know that if kids read a story about

652
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: something that was just like them, even if there was

653
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: one percent of them that read it or believed it,

654
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: it's just like I was telling you before, it's something

655
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: that I'm painting a picture so that they can believe

656
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: like I would do for my kids. If I'm passing

657
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: generational up to them.

658
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: You're looking at it like the other you out there. Yeah,

659
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other means out there.

660
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: As soon as they get the resource and the opportunities,

661
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to show who they are. And

662
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: even if I never give them a dom I gave

663
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: them a resource by looking at me saying that they

664
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: can do it too. So a lot of people miss

665
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: that aspect of what are you doing for people? If

666
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: people can look at a reflection their view, and if

667
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: you're out there doing something where I'm gonna tell you

668
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: shit half the time, I might want to be living

669
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: like a regular Americans. Sometimes I want to go out

670
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: there and you know, just like my old dies. But

671
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: I have to, you know, make sure that you know

672
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: it's kids looking at me now, there's people looking at

673
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: me now. I have to make sure that I am

674
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: being the picture that I painted to them to give

675
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: them that motivation. Now, I'm not perfect. I'm going to

676
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: have my imperfections. I ain't painting that picture. I ain't

677
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: painting a precture that I'm just perfect dude. But what

678
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: I am painting is that I got my stuff together,

679
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: and if you believe that, you will have your stuff together.

680
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Too, and you're taking that responsibility seriously.

681
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: I take it very seriously because I know how important

682
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: it is to be in a trap. And what I

683
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: mean is the trap is if every day that we

684
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: wake up, me and you can't inspire each other, we

685
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: in the trap. You have to see something to get inspired.

686
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: We're people and if you can't get inspired off of anything,

687
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: you around nothing every day. I want people to see

688
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: what what's out here? It's more life out here. It's

689
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: a lot of life out here that we never seen.

690
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: And me believing in this Chief State Company has made

691
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: me see so many different cities, so many different states,

692
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: so many different countries, meet so many different people, different

693
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: ethnic groups, backgrounds, everything off of believing in this sandwich

694
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: helped me understand that it's a lot more life to

695
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: live out here.

696
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: Right. So will be your advice to someone who maybe

697
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have that inspiration motivation in their life.

698
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: Go hang around it, Hang around it.

699
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: You don't have to Where do you look for that?

700
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: Where do you find that?

701
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: I don't care if you go listen, you can go

702
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: go to a Starbucks, go I don't care where you go,

703
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: just go around something that's not what you've been around

704
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: and see if that can give you a spark. It's

705
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: like being in a bad relationship every day. Whether it's

706
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: a personal or business matter, don't matter. If that relationship

707
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: isn't leveling you up. You in a wrong relationship. You

708
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying, Because you ain't supposed to be

709
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: the man you was last year. You're supposed to be

710
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: a better man.

711
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: Now.

712
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: You might have went through way more shit than you

713
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: went through a year to year, but it's up for

714
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: you to understand psychologically what you prepare for it, because

715
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: now you have to understand that life is going to

716
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: be life. But you got to move on from those

717
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: things because you've been through those environments and those systems already.

718
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: So you can't go backwards and say, oh, man, I'm

719
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: gonna let this person get to me that's said this

720
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: about me or did this. You're always gonna get talked about,

721
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: whether it's gonna be good or bad. My grandfather I

722
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: always told me this. He said, they're gonna talk about you,

723
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: whether it's good or bad. So do it any damn way.

724
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna talk shit either way.

725
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the thing is when you had that mindset,

726
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: you don't worry about Look, I used to be that

727
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: guy that used to be like, hey, I gotta ask

728
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: a couple of my friends, like, what do you think

729
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: about this? Should I do it? No? I'm doing it

730
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: now off of my gut.

731
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: Why were you asking that? Why were you pulling the

732
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: room like that? You can have.

733
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 3: It's not a confidence thing. It's more so that you

734
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: want to make a validation, right, But the only validation

735
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: that you have is your gut in your life.

736
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: But you've changed that. You're saying that you used to

737
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: do that, but now you don't.

738
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: It's no like I still know what I mean? Is

739
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: I still know I do more so I live off

740
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: of the validation of what I believe in. But I

741
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: have a structure to my validation now, so it makes sense.

742
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: So it's not just like I'm jumping off the cliff

743
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 3: for every single thing. But like, okay, for example, if

744
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: I got to spend seven hundred thousand dollars to build

745
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: the location, I don't want to just go off of

746
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 3: with people validate. I have to feel it. I don't

747
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: feel it. It ain't getting built there. I don't care

748
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: how the validation is because I have to understand that

749
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: I feel good about the thing that I always been

750
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: believing in, and it's his brand and the way I've

751
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: been building it. Because you ever heard that that they

752
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: say the if it ain't if it ain't broke, don't

753
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: fix it, right, So my my psychological logic to that is,

754
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but polish if

755
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 3: it ain't even broke. I think my homegirl just says

756
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: something like that, Milano, she have a clothing company, and

757
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: you always got to work on something every single time.

758
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like you to make it better,

759
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: like even it's a small nuanced thing.

760
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, because think about it, if I come on

761
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: your show again in two years, it's the same exact thing.

762
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: I didn't see.

763
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: Growth from this here talking the same Yeah.

764
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: If I come on there to even richer, yeah yeah,

765
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: And now I can talk to you and we having

766
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: a same conversation. But I can tell the level A

767
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: of your brand, right, I could feel it. I'd want

768
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: you to hopefully see that in me. Yeah, hopefully I

769
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: prest Yeah because guess what, because guess what I might

770
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: have came on your podcast at that time and my

771
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 3: battery just ain't charged and happen.

772
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: I might have.

773
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: Walked in and said, damn man, two years ago, I

774
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: remember coming into your podcast, and now you got a

775
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: whole big, damn building. You're doing these things. But you

776
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying. So now I'm saying to myself, like, yo, man,

777
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: like that's inspiring. I actually was on his podcast and

778
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 3: I've seen him grow, Like that's what I mean by growth.

779
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want to see people around you doing

780
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: that too. Yeah, And that's where it comes back to

781
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: you being sort of the natural motivator, right, Yeah.

782
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: Like it takes a lot of juice to be to

783
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: be me every day. But just the thing, I'm not

784
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 3: doing this for your likelihood, right, I'm doing this because

785
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: it makes me feel good when I wake up in

786
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: the morning. So it's not your opinion is not stopping

787
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: me or making me move forward on what I want

788
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: to be out of my life.

789
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: Got any haters out there.

790
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody got hated. The hardest thing when it

791
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: comes to the whole hating environment is that people just

792
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 3: don't understand how you did it. How did you make it.

793
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: Why did God pick you? So they're jealous or confused.

794
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: They don't even understand what they are. They just know

795
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: it feels better when they's a person that get the

796
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: success they don't know.

797
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: I would put it that way.

798
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: If they don't know that person, it feels better because

799
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: then you can congratulate them, right, But if you knew

800
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: them more so likely your haters are going to be

801
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: the people that watched you get to the bag or

802
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 3: watch you get to the success because they can't figure

803
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: out their once and their needs. But if they had

804
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: took the likelihood to say, you know what, I'm gonna

805
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: jump on this thing that's working and let's build together

806
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: so they listen. Everybody want their egos stroked, Everybody want

807
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: to feel good. But the only thing that's going to

808
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: happen is.

809
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: Your hard work.

810
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: Why do people think that you're You're the person that's

811
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: supposed to get these things to happen for you, And

812
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: that's showing who you are as a person. If you

813
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: just think that these things are going to fall in

814
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: your lap, it's not. You can wake up every day.

815
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: Everybody thinks they're special. You know, we tell ourselves that

816
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: all day, But you're not special to the world. You

817
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: might be special to yourself, but what makes you special

818
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: to the world is when they can feel with type

819
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: of heart you are, what type of human you are,

820
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: what type of special is that you're putting into the

821
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: world to make the world better. That's what makes people

822
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 3: pour into you. And when people are not doing that,

823
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: they wonder why, you know, things aren't happening for them.

824
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: And even when people are doing those things, I think

825
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: everything is time. And like you know, I've been doing

826
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: these things for years and years and years, and a

827
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: lot of times I wasn't getting hand claps, but I

828
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: wasn't doing it for the hand clap, right, I was

829
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: doing it because I wanted to do it and it

830
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: felt good.

831
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna do it no matter if you made it

832
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: or not.

833
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because this is the thing I knew that I've

834
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: seen other lives like I seen like I've seen lives

835
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: change through my business. I've seen people come to me

836
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: publicly and say, listen, you made me want to be

837
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: a better me. You made me get out the streets,

838
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: you made me stop selling drugs, like you made me

839
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: want to get an LLC. Like these things is we're

840
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: pouring to.

841
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: Me Yeah, that, like I would imagine, gets you through

842
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: the hard times that you have to.

843
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I'm pouring into them and I'm having a

844
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: hard time. Right, No, No, for real, Like I got,

845
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: I got, I got rich people problems like I got,

846
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: like need a million dollars tomorrow.

847
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: What's a rich person problem you have?

848
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: You can say the richest the richest person problem I

849
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: probably had was man ship everything just building, like you

850
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: just spending millions of dollars a year, you know, building

851
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: these locations. I mean you you know, I see millions

852
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: go and come and go and come, and you know,

853
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: and I know I'm building a massive empire. So that

854
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: feels good. But you know, the way I look at

855
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 3: a million dollars might not be the somebody else looks

856
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: at a million dollars, you know. And growing up as

857
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: a kid, I used to wish to God to say, God,

858
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: I just need a million dollars and I'm gonna be

859
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: rich forever, right my bills, you know, Like you know,

860
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: so I'm looking at that like, you know, the spending,

861
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: this is a million dollars. So like when you're looking

862
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: at it that way, you know that you have grown

863
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: so many levels in life that you got other people

864
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 3: problems now, you know, and I've grown to have those

865
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: people problems and it's a gift in the case. But

866
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: what I could say is I'm the one percent that

867
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: made it and then believe that I can get that far.

868
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: And that's what feels good right now. And I'm gonna

869
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 3: give myself those flowers every single time.

870
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you did it feel weird or

871
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: validating whenever you seem to start getting your flowers from people,

872
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: this actualized success in the eyes of peers and fans

873
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: or the internet.

874
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: No, because you know why, if I keep dripping thirty

875
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: a game, you go eventually give me a scoring title, right,

876
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: I said, if I keep driving thirty a game, they

877
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: go eventually recognize and see what I'm doing. So it's

878
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: nothing different in basketball, you know, it's a sport. Entrepreneurship

879
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: is a sport, you know, Like just like I just

880
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: made forty under forty two days ago, Black Enterprise. Thank

881
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: you for that honorable recognition. Yeah, thank you. And I

882
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: just got called Colonel Sanders by Forbes a week or

883
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 3: two before that, you know, So these things are like, which.

884
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: I actually love that title. You like that I love.

885
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: That title because you know, no, it's no. It shows

886
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: it shows the level of where people see, you know,

887
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: when it comes to like those recognitions, it lets me

888
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: know that people are recognizing the brand at a high level.

889
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: They see where I'm going in the brand, and that

890
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: lets me know that I've been doing the right thing

891
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: even when the collapse wasn't happening for me. People are watching,

892
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: and that's what people understand. Like every time that someone

893
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: or you do something great, someone isn't going to clap

894
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: like right now, I can call my mind right now,

895
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, mom, I just did this. She's so used

896
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: to my accomplishments now she's just like, oh, that's good,

897
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: you know. But I'm like, no, man, this is a

898
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: real big more important than it. It's like way bigger.

899
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: She's like that's great. Yeah.

900
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, that lets me know that

901
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 3: I'm doing things in the world right now. That's even

902
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: inspiring the person that came out of Yeah, because they're

903
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: so used to accomplishments. It's like, yeah, like you so

904
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, you still you know, honestly, like

905
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: I still get up every morning and look at Google

906
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: and see what stories I got out right, Yeah, And

907
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: to be honest, some of the storylines I'd be like, oh, this,

908
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: this is like crazy. But but yeah, yeah, But some

909
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: of the stuff that I beat, some of the stuff

910
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: that I make, I'm actually like, I used to read

911
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: these papers as kids, and these things like, it's not

912
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: too many outlets right now that exist. I haven't been

913
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 3: in off of a cheese steak, you know what I'm saying.

914
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: Which is wild to think of.

915
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: Yes, and and that's what I mean. When you come

916
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: to like the one percent, the ones that's not going

917
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: to give up, the ones that's going to keep going,

918
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: let me tell you something. You can look at this

919
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: and say, this is the room. If you get to

920
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: the room, he gets to the room, he gets to

921
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: the room. I'm in the room. No matter how each

922
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: of us got to that room, we made.

923
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: It to that room.

924
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: If you played golf, he played soccer, he cooked, and

925
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: I was a dishwasher. I became a famous dishwasher. I

926
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: made it up to that room.

927
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: Yep.

928
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: Guess what you're successful. That's how I look at you.

929
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

930
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: All I'm looking at right now.

931
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: Is you're just knucking the back door. You still got

932
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: here exactly.

933
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 3: Don't matter even if I was a fly on the wall.

934
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: I'm in that room even if I didn't have a

935
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: seat at the table. Y'all closed the door and allowed

936
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: me to be in that room. That's how appreciative I am.

937
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: But if you let me in the room, I'm gonna

938
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: make my own table and I'm gonna get a chair

939
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: to that table every single time because I'm always going.

940
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: To be me. Where does this what's the end game?

941
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: The game? Where does it or does it end? What's

942
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 1: the what's the final goal? Man?

943
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 3: Like, it's even harder now because you know, I'm married

944
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: to another entrepreneur.

945
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: Let's talk about her. Actually, if you don't mind, she's

946
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: also a legend. Yeah.

947
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: So like even just being beside my wife every single day, the.

948
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: Level hard with her also so damn successful. No, I

949
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: think it's a blessing for me. You know a lot

950
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: of people.

951
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like my wife is on the time

952
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: one hundred. Like now they give me a level of say,

953
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: you know, even if I never get that, you know,

954
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: I know that the person that I'm spending enough the

955
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: rest of my life with has accomplished that. So we

956
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: did it together. Like it's a lot of these things

957
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: that whether she get the handclap or I get it,

958
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: we get it together, So I take share that, which

959
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: is cool. Yeah, that moment, Like do you know, like

960
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: even at the Time one hundred events that we went

961
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: to that she was getting under that I'm sitting at

962
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: the table with the editors of Time one hundred, I

963
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: get the chance to talk to them. Yeah, you know,

964
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: moments of opportunity. Again, that's the resource that provided that opportunity.

965
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, I take all these things in

966
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: there as a blessing, you know, even the things that

967
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 3: I got coming in that she could do the same thing.

968
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: So we able to like watch each other back man,

969
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: and it's a good feeling. It's like a level of

970
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: motivation because sometimes in weeks I go through downsides where

971
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: you know, I might have some level of not even dismotivation,

972
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: just like you know, it can be like you know, Rocky,

973
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: you're getting punched around. You got to just keep getting

974
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: back up. Tough spot, Yeah, tough spot. And the motivation

975
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: from her, the encouragement of words and the same thing

976
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: I do for her every single time. So I think

977
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: that's the blessing of being at a high level that

978
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: we at right now, because you can take the best entrepreneurs,

979
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: some of the best entrepreneurs in the world right now,

980
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: and stick them in our businesses and our lives for

981
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: a month. They will fold under pressure. Because it all

982
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: looks good. There's a lot of handclaps that come with it.

983
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: But it takes endless hours of meetings, endless hours of traveling,

984
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: endless hours of being on zooms, endless hours of coming

985
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: up planning. Some days me and her only getting Honestly,

986
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: this is no cap. Some days we getting probably six

987
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: or seven hours. Is just real time between sleep and

988
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: family time. Sure, just just sometimes we're looking at the

989
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: whiteboard for man eight nine hours up to twelve hours

990
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: sometimes planning on what the next year look like and

991
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: what we're actually planning for twenty twenty six right now.

992
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: Damn you get what I'm saying.

993
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: So we already have our twenty twenty four planned out,

994
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six now is going into planning.

995
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: We already know what what what uh magazines that covers

996
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: that we went already accomplishments that we want to achieve.

997
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: Because even if it seemed too big for you, now

998
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: those are the things that you have to look forward

999
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: to in.

1000
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Your like you have to markers and you know ghosts.

1001
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: I hope GQ watches this.

1002
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: I know one day I'm gonna be on the cover

1003
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: and we gotta both be on there at the same time.

1004
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be on the cover of GQ.

1005
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Like every tight that would be a bucket, Yeah it would,

1006
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: it would.

1007
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: But those are the things that like I say to

1008
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: put in the universe that I believe me.

1009
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about me.

1010
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: Everything that I put out in the universe happened.

1011
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: Why is that, you think?

1012
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: Because I believe it and there's no human in this

1013
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: world gonna stop me doing it.

1014
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: So you put it out there to make it real.

1015
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: I put it out there because I believed it, to

1016
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: make it real when I believed it, so I already

1017
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: lived it already. Now it's time to make it happen

1018
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: in real life.

1019
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: You're letting yourself down if you don't listen. Get it.

1020
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: Everything Everything that I dreamed, from that moment of that

1021
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: gas station to now, I've dreamed. It may not have

1022
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: been the moments of the moment, but I've dreamed the

1023
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 3: level of success. I've dreamed the level of popularity. I

1024
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: actually even dreamed the level of just giving people that

1025
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: inspiration through me. I dreamed of all these things when

1026
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: I was just in a little gas station on the

1027
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: broken fry and a broken grill. I believed it now.

1028
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 3: I always knew it was up for just the people

1029
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: to see who I was as a person and believe that.

1030
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 3: But I already dreamed it. Like when you dream something

1031
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: you don't want to dream and say, oh man, that

1032
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: was a wild dream.

1033
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: What if that happened.

1034
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: I dreamed it and I said I needed to happen.

1035
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to make it happen because that dream felt

1036
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: too good.

1037
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: Right, I have to think about this and not I

1038
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: cannot live. That's why to live.

1039
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: Thus, Yes, I cannot live day to day of my

1040
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: life in this world not trying to be able to

1041
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: make this dream happen, because it drove me crazy. That

1042
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: dream of minds drove me crazy, and it drove me

1043
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: crazy every single day still today, of level of levels

1044
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 3: that I'm trying to get.

1045
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: To in life.

1046
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: It drives me nuts. Really, because I love the dream

1047
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: I'm in right now. Yeah, And when I dream, I

1048
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: dream more. I dream more and dream more. It's not

1049
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: saying that, oh, God give you enough. You should be happy. No,

1050
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: it's not that. It's the addiction to the dream of

1051
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: seeing this massive empire actually be something that you thought

1052
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: it could be from a little gas station.

1053
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: So it's quite easy for people to look at your

1054
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: life career and success and say, Okay, like he's sort

1055
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: of here and now he's made it to here, he's

1056
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: made it. But do you look at where you're at

1057
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: right now as like an early chapter in a very

1058
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: big book, where you have so much more and bigger

1059
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: places to go, and not just hey, this is it.

1060
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: If this was an encyclopedia, I'm just in the beginning, right,

1061
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: You know, you're in the interest. You know, people people

1062
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: see this this empire that I'm building right now with

1063
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: the brand, but what they gonna know me for in

1064
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: the end may not be what they know me for

1065
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: in the beginning, right, And that's just the real reality

1066
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: of it. I think I'll always be looked upon as

1067
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: a serial entrepreneur and I'm going to build a big

1068
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: dave to a massive, massive company which is already headed

1069
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: forward too.

1070
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: I want you to make Shark take special guess right, Yeah,

1071
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: I gotta be a'd be tight, I gotta be a

1072
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: judge on there it'd be awesome.

1073
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: But all of these things that I've already accomplished, it

1074
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 3: feels good. But I think if I sit in these accomplishments,

1075
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: it makes you staggerant. It makes you, you know, feel

1076
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 3: like you already won.

1077
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: How do you balance that? How do you give yourself

1078
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: like kudos a little bit?

1079
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm happy

1080
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: as hell, So how do you balance Like I take

1081
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 3: my vacations, I party, I have fun. I ain't saying

1082
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: that I'm a fun entrepreneur.

1083
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: Sink I'm high right now.

1084
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: I'm a fun entrepreneur. But the thing is is that

1085
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 3: I think when it comes to people being stagnant is

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00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 3: because they feel like they've made it. Your ego being

1087
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: stroked so much. You got money in the bank, you

1088
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: can wake up and do what the hell you want.

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Speaker 3: But that's not That's not how I see making it.

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Speaker 3: I see the level of making it when one day

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00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wake up in the morning and one of

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00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: my sons is gonna come to me and may say that,

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00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: what do you think about sitting down and me becoming

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Speaker 3: the CEO and you just enjoying the rest of your days?

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Speaker 1: You take mom.

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Speaker 3: Y'all go travel south of south of France, whatever you

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Speaker 3: want to do. And I see that as making it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you why, Because if I can

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Speaker 3: give my son first job as a CEO.

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Speaker 1: I mean it'd be pretty first. Yeah, but you give

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Speaker 1: it him if you complete that loop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's like Lebron he's gonna and I believe this,

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00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: he's going to be the first guy that plays in

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Speaker 3: the league with the son.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to do it, all right.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you same example I'm making. That's the

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00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: level of I made it. I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for real, it is because you actually.

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Speaker 3: Get to see what you love and what you put

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00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: into the world fell in love with through your love,

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00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: to be able to do the same thing that you love,

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00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: that is making it. That's called I trained the kid

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00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 3: the right way to understand how we keep this legacy going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's badass. Tell me about the future

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Speaker 1: of Dave's and the franchise situation. What's the you know,

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00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: what's the big picture here? What's the idea?

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Speaker 3: One hundred locations in the next twelve to twenty four months.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a lot, It does but I mean,

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Speaker 1: like in a good way. But I'm like, how do

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Speaker 1: you actually do that?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we all get one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta take five, that's the thing. You gotta

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00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 3: take five. So right now we're not doing singles. You

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00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: gotta take five.

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Speaker 1: In Why is that? Is that? Because it's just easier

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00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: to get skin in the game kind of thing too.

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Speaker 3: I'm still a new franchise company, and I want to

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00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: make sure that I professionally get in bed with the

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00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 3: right people, get operators, people that I want to see scale.

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00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: Like if you start with your five, I want to

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Speaker 3: take you personally to one hundred.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: If I take if I take right now all these

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Speaker 3: people to one hundred locations, and that's just you know,

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00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: hypothetically me speaking, it's easier to get to a thousand

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00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: that way to be able because what they can do

1138
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: is like say, right now, if you said to me

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Speaker 3: you want to hold Texas right, and I say, okay,

1140
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: I give you the whole Texas, but under your umbrella,

1141
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: you could bring up so many entrepreneurs to give their

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00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: own locations to your umbrella and y and that's what

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00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 3: I care about. I care about. Who can I invest

1144
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 3: in just like me to bring in other people bigger

1145
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: swings here, Yeah, because listen, I get the bigger swing

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00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: with the person that understands me as a captain that

1147
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: can bring in the soldiers versus I can get the.

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Speaker 1: Soldiers like hiring other little captains, right.

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Speaker 3: Because like, yeah, but but that's what the soldier, that's

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00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 3: what That's what the captain is gonna do. The captain

1151
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: is going to be the person to say, okay that

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00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: I look upon and say, oh, you think like me,

1153
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: and you carry business like me, and I know that

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00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: the culture of the brand wouldn't change, and I know

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00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: that you recruit, you would recruit that way. Also because

1156
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: we're like minded, we're on the same mission. So that

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00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: mission driven is going to help us get to the

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00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: bigger figure in the end with the same type of

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00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: people that see the vision in the brand.

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Speaker 1: I'm with the pivot question. Here, come on, here's your

1161
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: favorite basketball player right now?

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00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: My favorite right now? I'm gonna say, uh, I'm gonna say,

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00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Lebron, And I'm gonna tell you why.

1164
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 3: For so many reasons, Lebron is my favorite on and

1165
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: off the court. He's my favorite on the court because

1166
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 3: you've never seen Lebron paying any game he didn't make

1167
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: somebody better. That's the way I look at my entrepreneur game,

1168
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: like I make people better around me. Outside of basketball,

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00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: he's a businessman. He's made smart decisions. He's been able

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Speaker 3: to create the level of massive success through his empire,

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00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: not just in the NBA, but through investments, and I

1172
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: think it takes genius level of mindset to do that.

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00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to think about it. He was

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00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: already at eighteen years old with a multi million dollar

1175
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 3: Nike contract. So if you give a kid that young,

1176
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: already level of access, anyone can fuck that up exactly,

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So like, I think for him,

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00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 3: he's a goat for that because out of his whole career,

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00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 3: you've seen Lebron every year go level to level the level,

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00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: and now he's at a level now where he's a

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00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 3: billionaire playing basketball and that's not which is by the way, man,

1182
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: next time I come, you better have some mic coldess,

1183
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: just Mike Hovey and shit like I'm up here switching.

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00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: And I think it's that forty milimeter on that. Actually

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00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't know you said my wrists size that damn thing.

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00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, this has been a blast, dude, and.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to say this. I want to get your flowers.

1188
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 3: Like you know, I was looking at you from afire,

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00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: you know, just being on social media, and you know,

1190
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: even when I was growing a brand, I just I

1191
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: liked your content. I thought you guys were funny as hell.

1192
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff you dice, but these guys crazy shit.

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00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 3: But it used to just, you know, it used to

1195
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 3: give me that level of like they live life. They

1196
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 3: don't care how people think of them. They just want

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00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: to be themselves, to be able to be the best

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00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 3: they can be for the universe.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you That's how I looked at Yah. I

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Speaker 1: did get that. I got to appreciate that because that's

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00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: really kind of yeah, I see the same in you

1202
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: out here doing my thing, man, yeah, and is what

1203
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: it is. But like, yeah, I was humble that you

1204
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: reached out.

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00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: And and by the way, I don't I don't do that.

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00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, at this time, you know.

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00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: Not Almos like, oh yeah, what did you reach out?

1208
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 1: I was like, what's his right?

1209
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 3: Because the was for me to do even just you

1210
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: know us linking up was for me to understand who

1211
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: you were outside of social media because you drew my interests.

1212
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying as a person, So I'm like,

1213
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 3: I want to meet like minded people, whether you're white, black,

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00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: no matter. I want to meet like minded people so

1215
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: that the connection. Listen, I tell people this, your network

1216
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: is definitely a network, right, but your resource is your

1217
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: next goal. You know what I'm saying. I know the

1218
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: more people I build with that inspired me in some

1219
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: type of way, I get to my next goal, you know.

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00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: So it's a stepping ladder. So if I'm looking at

1221
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 3: you and I'm saying your content online and I'm saying

1222
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: how you carry yourself, I want to meet you. I'm

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00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: in the stage now with my life where i can

1224
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: jump out the box and say it's cool for me

1225
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: to say, hey.

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00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: Yo, you inspired me. Afraid of.

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00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: No, because I'm me, because I know I'm the ship

1228
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: without doing you know what I'm saying. So I have

1229
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: that level of myself. You know, some people Listen, I

1230
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: meet Selectason be like, oh yeah, yeah, a little bit

1231
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: about now you know a lot about it, bro, I'm

1232
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: everything smoking Yeah, man, you are look at it earlier. Yeah,

1233
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: so like, I don't want to be that person. I'm

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00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: gonna give your flowers in front of you. I was

1235
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: left precureing that you inspired me.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: So you're just going through your roll decks, You're like, man,

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00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: I just need like a bleached haired white guy in

1239
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: my right. I need to like spice it up in here,

1240
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: love it. I was tumbled that you reached out. And

1241
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: we're fans of what you guys do, and we go

1242
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: to eat your food too, So we're honored that we're here.

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00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: And listen tonight, if y'all not doing nothing, I'm to

1244
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: buy a vegan.

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Speaker 1: Celebrate my I'm a thousand percent.

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm listening, I'm taking shots. I'm getting getting.

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00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me see. Let me see how

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00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: this guy gets. It's been a blast, dude, Yeah awesome.

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