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Speaker 1: But what if she is an eighteen year old freshman?

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Speaker 1: Because age still matter if the gap is twenty five years?

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Speaker 1: But oh, the story gets oh so much more complicated

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Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. We're going over Robes, a question

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Speaker 1: that a reader sent into us on our yahoo dot

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Speaker 1: life section. Let's start with that, Robes, there is an

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Speaker 1: age gap here twenty five years. Now. When you first

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Speaker 1: hear that, is that a big deal?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a pretty big deal. I mean that's a

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Speaker 2: parent to child generational gap.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you would have a follow up question immediately, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thinking about dating somebody he's twenty five years older? Your

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Speaker 1: woman is right now? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent, Because well, there's already going to

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Speaker 2: be a literally a generation gap between the two of you.

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Speaker 2: But if you've lived enough life where you can go

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Speaker 2: into that relationship with enough experience, you won't obviously ever

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Speaker 2: catch up with your partner, but you've had enough life

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Speaker 2: experience that you can navigate your way through it potentially successfully.

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Speaker 2: If you're young, if you've just started off in life,

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Speaker 2: if you've just left your parents home, it's like you

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Speaker 2: almost as if you are still seeking that same sort

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Speaker 1: Bekay, it's hard to endorse, is it not at that age?

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Speaker 1: Okay, details are different, and there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: it's a hard I would say, as I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: When it's somebody you care about, a family member, especially

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Speaker 2: Frankly, I think it's very hard, and yes, there are

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Speaker 2: plenty of examples of successful relationships where they've met in

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we mentioned all this, folks, because we had

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Speaker 1: a young lady writ into us Carrie Cassie. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Cassie wrote in Now, yes, there's an age gap, she

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Speaker 2: One wrote Yes. Here is the actual question or letter

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Speaker 2: that was written into us Amy and TJ. When I

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Speaker 2: was unshakable, but I was young and he was newly divorced.

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Speaker 2: want to crowdsource my relationship. If we try again, will

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Speaker 1: Now, folks didn't see, but I wish they could have

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Speaker 1: What problems do you have then? You don't have that?

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Speaker 1: She can make this decision now, but not then. My

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Speaker 2: the rest. My issue was being worried. He's worried about

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Speaker 1: I'm with you one hundred percent. And this thing she

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Speaker 2: About she doesn't want to crowdsource her relationship? Basically, you know, yes,

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Speaker 1: And they should and you are ultimately responsible. But I

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it in somebody else's hands. No, anything

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Speaker 1: absolutely get counsel. You should go to the people that

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Speaker 1: I encourage everybody. Don't label anything as crowdsourcing or thinking

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Speaker 1: you're giving somebody outside of your relationships or input in it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: then you make the decision. But absolutely she'd be talking

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Speaker 2: She didn't mention that she had another relationship with that

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it begin in with that? At this point what

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Speaker 1: with your advice. But this robe seems so far we're

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think a lot of it is. Look,

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Speaker 2: My friends all tend to be younger than me. You're

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Speaker 1: You know that is you just hit on exactly why.

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Speaker 1: It's not our dating pool. No speak about all those

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Speaker 2: And again, he has eight kids, So okay, you did

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Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, you know what. Look, we have an opinion,

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Speaker 1: You have an opinion. Everybody seems to maybe have an opinion.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this edition of Ask Amy and TJ,

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Speaker 2: where we had Cassie right in and ask if she

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Speaker 2: There was a twenty five year age gap. She was

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Speaker 1: Okay, I am totally on board you putting it that way.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally on board with your advice. I'm saying, why not,

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Speaker 1: Like I stop, and I caution, And maybe that is

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Speaker 1: But what you're saying makes sense, Then why not you

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Speaker 1: Who is anybody to say what? And who this person is?

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Speaker 1: And if this works and how it works and why

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Speaker 1: I always want to caution myself. You are very good

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Speaker 1: But we don't always understand all the dynamics and what's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and we have one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: But hey, I don't know. We have President Trump with

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Speaker 1: All of that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the story of President Macrone and his wife.

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Speaker 2: She was his teacher, was it his English teacher, history teacher?

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Speaker 2: it was the theater teacher. But he waited until he

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Speaker 1: We always don't. We have that tendency to question any

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Speaker 1: But wait, what lasted ten years? So?

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. So you're the same age. So the two

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Speaker 1: How is it possible. No one would accept, No one

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Speaker 1: We just don't. But here they are and look at that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So they got married in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Because there are people that are

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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous, it's inappropriate, it doesn't work. How dare

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Speaker 1: Do we need to get our heads around now? We

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Speaker 2: I don't think we need to understand everyone's relationship, but

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Speaker 2: I think we can respect it if real you know

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be something that we would be interested. But I

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Speaker 2: who work at it each and every day, it can be.

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Speaker 2: It can seem bizarre, it can seem unusual and strange.

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Speaker 2: But I actually did not realize how many similarities there

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Speaker 2: were between Cassie's relationship and this one is just the

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Speaker 2: genders of reverse. So you know, she could look to

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Speaker 2: President Macrone's relationship and think, you know what, it worked

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Speaker 2: for them, why couldn't it work for me?

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Speaker 1: So Cassie, take that with you, and these are fascinating questions.

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Speaker 1: Please keep your comments coming. We are starting to collect

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Speaker 1: and see already, but we'll do another episode in which

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Speaker 1: we will we will share some of the comments that

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Speaker 1: you all have written in began to say Yahoo dot

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Speaker 1: com in the life section. Please please please comment in Cassie,

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Speaker 1: good luck to you. So still we are pulling for you.

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Speaker 1: These things are hard. Relationships are hard, no matter what

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Speaker 1: it looks like, doesn't robes they're soul are difficult.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's something pulling those two together and you

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Speaker 2: shouldn't ignore it because that is special, that is magical,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't happen every day. Think about it. She's lived

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Speaker 2: a ton of her life thirteen years was he, and

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Speaker 2: they still feel this pull towards one one another. So

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Speaker 2: explore it, Cassie, and hopefully you can let us know

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Speaker 2: how it goes. We appreciate it, and we appreciate you

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Speaker 2: listening to us, Thank you for listening to this episode

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Speaker 2: of Ask Amy and TJ. On'm Amy Robock alongside TJ Holmes.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day, Everybody,