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And uh man, it's been a it's 36 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 6: been a day for the. 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: Whole crew, our whole little crew. 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 6: Everybody's gonna have something happen today. But you know what, 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 6: we persevere and here we are no doubt. 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: It has been a crazy Wednesday as the holidays about 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: to kick off and all that. So man, we'll get 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: through it. We got a great show for you today. 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: We have a lot of stuff to get to I'm 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Let's welcome in Kelvin, our Odd 45 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: Couple crew, because we wouldn't be able to do them 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: without we wouldn't be able to do this find radio 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: program without them. 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: I'll get it out. Rob g is our producer is 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: in instead in the studio. Wow, Alex of. 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Course is our engineer. Martin Weiss is at the anchor desk. 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: He'll keep us updated. And Saga, that's right, Saga is 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: our social media guru. And for Elijah, who's still on vacation. 53 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: There you go, Oh, that's for Elijah, not for Saga. 54 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: So a lot of stuff to get to. 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: Kelvin. We could just kick it off the news of 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: the day. You want to introduce it the news of 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: the day. 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, the news of the day would be that 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 6: the New York Knickerbockers went ahead and finally got a 60 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 6: coach after all this time. And that coach would be 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 6: one none other than Mike Brown. He is now the 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 6: head coach for the next and uh, this is you know, 63 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 6: coming after some weeks of trying to find one, which 64 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 6: was interesting when they let Tims go. 65 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: Who would it be? 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 6: There are some bigger names out there you thought that 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 6: would be in consideration that weren't. And then we know 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 6: Rob also that they had had a list of a 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 6: handful of people that some never even were able to 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 6: get interviews, some were able to. 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: Get already had jobs, you know what I mean? 72 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, a team likeel Like you're looking to talk 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: to No, No, he's under contract. 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 6: You can't be calling him. Hey, hello, Rockets, is email available? 75 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: Right? Jason kidd? I know you got a new contract 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: with the and. 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: A number one draft pick coming up. 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, Like yeah, so they had a crazy Yeah, 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 6: they had a few. Quinn Snyder would be another one, 80 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 6: Taylor Jenkins, a lot of a haldful of people who 81 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 6: had some They did have some meetings and took some interviews, 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 6: but at the end of the day, Mike Brown got 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 6: the the opportunity. So yeah, so there you have it. 84 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 6: They got their guy that they believe will lead them 85 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 6: to the future. 86 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: What say you, Okay, if I'm a New York Knicks 87 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: fan today, I am melancholy. 88 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: I am a Debbie Downer. 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: I am distraught because Mike Brown really the Knicks. You know, 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Mike Brown's been around, what is this his fifth start? 91 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be like his fifth fifth team, I should say. 92 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: I know he did the Cavs twice, but this will 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: be like his fifth time being a head coach, and 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: very he seldom Kelvin Washington, does a coach win a 95 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: championship after making that many stops? 96 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: Okay, it just normally doesn't happen that way. 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: I can think of one guy it's happened too, and 98 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: that's about it, off the top of my head, who 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: made numerous stops and won later on in his career. 100 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: So the Knicks wanted Larry Brown, but I think they 101 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: got closer to Charlie Brown by hiring Mike Brown. I mean, 102 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: Larry Brown did it. Larry Brown won the Pistons with 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: the championship with the Pistons later after being with a 104 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: lot of teams, but he ain't Larry Brown. Larry Brown 105 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: also won a championship in college. Larry Brown's the only 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: coach who won in the NBA and in college basketball. 107 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: So you're talking about a select group. Mike Brown hasn't 108 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: won anything, zero zip naw. And they thought they had 109 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: something going and Sacramento couldn't win the big game, right. 110 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: There were a couple of times where you thought the. 111 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: King's gonna They're gonna beat up Warriors and move on. 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: No way, no how, I don't know how you get excited. 113 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: To me, it feels like the Knicks went to kick 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: the football and they got it pulled from them. 115 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: They missed it. 116 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: Ye. 117 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all for getting rid of TIBs. I 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: told you. 119 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: That that after they lost the first two games in 120 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals at home, including that debacle in 121 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: Game one fourteen points with two thirty eight to go, 122 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: I have no issue with them being fired, but to 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: hire another guy who's been around for a while, had 124 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: these teams, never really has won anything, coached you know, 125 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: in Cleveland and. 126 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: Coached for the Lakers and all that. 127 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: When the Lakers think he got fired in the second year, 128 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: right after five or six games, you remember that disaster. 129 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: So my point is, if you're Nick Nation or whatever 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: you want to call themselves, Nick faithful or whatever, my god, 131 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: is that all they came away with Mike Brown. 132 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not with it. 133 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 6: Look, if they're Nick faithful, if they're Nick faithful, they 134 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 6: out here about to be Nick looking at other things 135 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 6: right now, Nick cheating, They ain't about to be faithful 136 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 6: right now. 137 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: Rob. 138 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 6: This is a couple of things. So you touched on 139 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 6: something I want to go back to. I'm not gonna 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 6: act like Tom Thibodeau was Phil Jackson. I said that 141 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 6: during in real time. You now my thing was all right? 142 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 6: Then if you have to have in my opinion, of playing, 143 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 6: if we're letting it go a guy who's had the 144 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 6: most success there in twenty two years, he has now 145 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 6: surpassed Pat Riley for the most wins, fourth most wins 146 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 6: in NICK history. He had eleven playoff wins. He had 147 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 6: four appearances in five seasons. So you had a guy 148 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 6: who was creating something, who had gotten you all the 149 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 6: way to game and a half. 150 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: Away from the finals. 151 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 6: So to me, okay, you're letting them go to get 152 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 6: and this was my concern. 153 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: This was my issue. 154 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 6: And they went from you know, going to New York 155 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 6: going to see some huge Broadway plays. 156 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: To going to see a community center play. 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 6: Now you got Mike Brown, who's some of the highlights 158 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 6: on his career. 159 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: He got Coach of the Year in two thousand and nine. 160 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 6: Pretty easy to get a Coach of the Year or 161 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 6: at least be a candidate when you got that era 162 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 6: of Lebron James right. Then you go to the Warriors 163 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 6: for a few when Kirk Steve Kerr was going through 164 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 6: some things. You coach there for a little bit, so 165 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 6: you get some wins with them, But after that, to me, 166 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 6: it's been underachieving. 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: You underachieved with the Lakers. 168 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 6: You had that same team that came back from an 169 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 6: NBA Finals appearance, NBA Championship, and you underachieved with them. 170 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 6: Then the next year, as you mentioned, you only coach 171 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 6: five games. You underachieved the Sacramento with some really good 172 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 6: two all NBA guys and some Bonus and dearon Fox 173 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 6: and some mother players quality players as well. When they 174 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 6: got around was at the two seed you lost in 175 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 6: the playoffs. So to me, you wentn't got a guy 176 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 6: that's one of those well who always get a good job. 177 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 6: Everybody seems to like him, seems to be a nice guy. 178 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 6: And I'm not even saying he's not a solid coach. 179 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 6: There's thirty jobs. Somebody has to have a job. But 180 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 6: for a Nick team that had a chance to get 181 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 6: back in the Eastern Conference and finals and maybe get 182 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 6: to the finals because the East is wide open, this 183 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 6: to me did not womy. 184 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: This did not move the needle. 185 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 6: And if as you mentioned, as a Knick fan, I 186 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 6: would be like wait what, and I would actually be upset. 187 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 6: And this goes back to James Dolan mentioning we just 188 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 6: do weird things, he himself, sometimes we overreact, sometimes we 189 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 6: chase the shining thing. And to me, he did it 190 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 6: again by overreacting, chasing the shining thing and getting rid 191 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 6: of somebody who again, fine, fine, then you have to 192 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 6: have a better plan and contingency plan. And I didn't 193 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 6: see that, And this is why the Knicks be nicking. 194 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 6: This is why the Knicks be nicking and ruin. 195 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: Up the situation. 196 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: The one thing I hear you, I'm gonna disagree, though. 197 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry with the Tibbs. You know, you say you 198 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: got wins. Pat Rodley took the Knicks to the finals 199 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: like this, you know, like so so. 200 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: He can have more wins than Pat Roley and all 201 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: this other stuff. 202 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: But Robb was on but after they No, I'm just 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: saying I don't have any issue once they lost that series, 204 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: and I'm just saying they all had expectations after they 205 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: beat Celtics that they were. 206 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: Going to the finals. 207 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: And then you lose game one in that fashion and 208 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: then you being a coach, hey, you can shake off 209 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: one game, right, It's only one game. They lost Game 210 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: two at home and that was the series. So I 211 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: don't have an issue with them firing them. What I 212 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: do is I have an issue with going out to 213 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: get a coach who has a track record of not winning. 214 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: That that's the issue I have. And I think that's 215 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: where you got to look at it and go and 216 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I get it. There aren't a million coaches with a 217 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: championship trophy in their back pocket, and I talked about 218 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: Michael Malone and I guess they had some bad blood 219 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: or something before, so you know, I guess they held 220 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: that against them, and which is fine if they wanted 221 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: to do that, but I would have to if and 222 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: once they talked to the players and the exit interviews 223 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: and they felt like Tims had to go because that's 224 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: what this was. 225 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: This wasn't a plan. 226 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: They just signed a guy in the offseason to a 227 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: new extension, so this. 228 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Was not the plan. They thought they had their guy. 229 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: You gotta remember their president and GM used to be 230 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: was his agent, you know what I mean, Like they 231 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: have a relationship. They didn't do this just just because 232 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: they were scheming to do this all along. This thing happened, 233 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: they didn't get to the finals, and then they talked 234 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: to the players on the way out who weren't feeling 235 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: tips enough to make them say, you know what, let's 236 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: give them another shot at this. So I don't have 237 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: the issue with the firing. I just think there were 238 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: other people or take a chance. I'd even take a 239 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: chance on somebody who you really believe might have that 240 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: it thing and might be the new hotness rather than 241 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: a retread who hasn't been able to get over the hump. 242 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: You're gonna look back at this. 243 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: There are people in New York, you know, hoping and 244 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: wishing going maybe this is like when the Yankees hired 245 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Joe Tory and everybody was down on Joe Tory. The 246 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: headline in the Daily News in New York when Joe 247 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Torrey got hired for the Ankees was clueless Joe, and 248 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: he went on to win five World Series, right, well, 249 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: four or five World Series with the Yankees. Four uh so, 250 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: so people are hoping that it's that, you know, like 251 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't a popular higher. But he also had Derek 252 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Jeter and Maria No right, come in, good man, Andy Pettitt. 253 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 6: I mean they had that group was special. There's that 254 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 6: was a special group. Five guys that came up to you, 255 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 6: joege Pisada. I'm one hundred percent. 256 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: So Joe, you want to get them all the flowers, 257 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: that's fine. But but the group that he had that 258 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: was developed in the Yankees minor league system was different. 259 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: This Nick team was ready to win last year. They 260 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: made all the moves, all the picks from Michel Bridges. 261 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: They made the trade for Cat Kelvin. This was supposed 262 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: to be it and it didn't happen. 263 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 6: And my my only thing we were not. I'm not 264 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 6: overly mad at the firing and it since again I 265 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: don't think he is the greatest coach of all time. 266 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: You let him go. My issue I've told you was 267 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: what was the plan? 268 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 6: But also I'll say this, this is where we will 269 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 6: absolutely fundamentally disagree. I The firing would suggest that maybe 270 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 6: all of a sudden they're like, oh I lean more 271 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 6: to Maybe there were some players issue Karl Anthony Towns 272 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 6: who also had the same agent, maybe upset he didn't 273 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 6: get some crucial minutes in the game. 274 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: In the game, I can understand that. 275 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 6: But to me, I don't like the firing when it 276 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 6: comes to saying the expectations. Dude, nobody thought the Knicks 277 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 6: were getting to the finals before the season and even 278 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 6: during the playoffs. I get what you're saying, they beat 279 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 6: the Celtics, now you have to go to But what 280 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 6: I'm saying against ch you got to a game six 281 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 6: against a eventual really good team and his pacers. Maybe 282 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 6: we all undermes ed them all year. That to me 283 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 6: doesn't signal firing cues. 284 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. 285 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: I agree that you could lose to the Pacier, but 286 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: you can't give up a fourteen point lead at home 287 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: with two thirty eight. That is the If you don't 288 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: get fired off of that, Kelvin, you'll never get there 289 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: could be no reason to fire you. I'm that is 290 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: that is an all time choke job. Would you agree 291 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: with that? 292 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: Damn told? 293 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I mean it was one and whatever, 294 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 6: but you know, I told you I think it was 295 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 6: more of a pacer. That's a story for another day, 296 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 6: but I just it's gonna be what. They had one 297 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 6: playoff win series in twenty two years. I believe it 298 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 6: was the Knicks prior to him, and to me, they 299 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 6: should have another because they're the East is wide open. 300 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 6: But don't put yourself back in a situation where you're 301 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 6: no longer relevant. We all enjoy the Knicks being relevant. 302 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 6: It's good for the NBA. And so I just didn't 303 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 6: like the hire of Mike Brown for this situation. 304 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: Not that Mike Brown couldn't. 305 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: Be the Hornets or the Jazz or some other coach, 306 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 6: but specifically for a Nick team that realistically has championship aspirations, 307 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 6: I didn't like to hire. 308 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: All Right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox on 309 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: This Worship Wednesday eight seven, seven nine nine six sixty 310 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: three sixty nine. Did the Knicks botch this highre? Is 311 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: Mike Brown closer to Larry Brown or Charlie Brown? What 312 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: do you think We'll continue that conversation next with you? 313 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: It is The Odd Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington. 314 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: Right, You're on Fox Sports Radio and you know what 315 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: to do. Alex. You need to stick and. 316 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: Stay unless your name rhymes with Schmalaijah in the US 317 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: of A. 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And coming up in about forty 347 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: three minutes or so, one's gotta go, and that'll be interesting. 348 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: One's got to go. I see what you're doing here 349 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: on that topic as we spend today. Yeah, uh, touching 350 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: everybody on the show. 351 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: But let's go here to the NBA will continue to 352 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: talk about you know, moves and stuff going on. 353 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: And you heard earlier Eddie House was really impressed by 354 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: what the Bucks did. 355 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: And you know there were people I. 356 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: Guess uh Jannis supposedly told, was it Chris Haynes, Yes, 357 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: inside of Chris Haynes, that he didn't like the way 358 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: it was handled, but he didn't say he didn't like it. 359 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: And then today basically said he was excited about the 360 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: moves that the Bucks have made, uh, still saying that 361 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: he's not a part of making these decisions or whatever. Basically, 362 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: you know the front office is doing that stuff. Uh, 363 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: you have a problem with the way uh Janice has 364 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: handled this, I'm assuming here. 365 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, well my thing is this because then there you know, 366 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 6: you can kind of you know how this goes. Rob 367 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 6: there's report to the report, and in a response to 368 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 6: the report of the report by this person in the response, 369 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 6: So then you got the latest Ramona Shellburn. She had 370 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 6: put out there that he was not pleased and that 371 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 6: he actually that he was not pleased with Markey's decision 372 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 6: to wave Lillard and then he just didn't like how 373 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 6: it was handled, as you mentioned. And then you have 374 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 6: natro Lebri response from Damian Lillard under Ramona's tweet out there, 375 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 6: he responded with it kind of using that character in 376 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 6: the movie, his nod of resignation, like yeah, sure, all right. 377 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 6: So as if Damien is saying no, he knew what 378 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 6: was up. He knew the whole time. And it kind 379 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 6: of goes to conversation you and I were having yesterday. 380 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 6: The Bucks are doing this, Giannis means too much, he's 381 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 6: too big, he's the being a part time GM de facto, 382 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 6: and that they're talking to him. If they're trying to 383 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 6: keep him, they're gonna do whatever it takes to make 384 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 6: him happy. Right, This is what we're doing. This what 385 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 6: we're thinking, This is what we're considering. These are the 386 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 6: options we have. What do you think? What do you 387 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 6: agree with? We're thinking about getting Miles Turner, which he 388 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 6: said he liked that move there. 389 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: He was excited about that. 390 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 6: And they're gonna move Damien, he has to be on 391 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 6: the know, especially if they're gonna take eat a bunch 392 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 6: of one hundred plus dollars one hundred twelve million dollars, 393 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: whatever it is. So my thing is this, I don't 394 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: like that end of it to act as if you 395 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 6: didn't know to act well. I didn't like I was 396 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 6: handled if you indeed were you know, know about this, 397 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 6: And I know over the final last five six years 398 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 6: or so, with Lebron kind of getting to that point 399 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 6: in his career, with it's only championships that matter every year, 400 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 6: every team, we all go, well, we know there are 401 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 6: a bunch of guys that could be expendable. We know 402 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 6: Lebron is at this point willing to do anything for 403 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 6: a championship. And I guess for me, and it can 404 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 6: be Lebron, it could be somebody in the NFL quarterback 405 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 6: who's on that same trajectory. I'd rather know at the 406 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 6: end of the season, like yo, unless I'm you know, Luca, 407 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 6: I could go somewhere, I could be traded, I could 408 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 6: be released, i could be cut. I'd rather know it 409 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 6: and know what I'm facing then to think we're trying 410 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 6: to come back battle this thing out, you know, and 411 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 6: I'll get healthy. 412 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: If I'm Damian. 413 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 6: Lillard and we'll come back and make this thing happen, 414 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 6: or if we just had a conversation like yo, man, 415 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 6: you and I both know this ain't working. 416 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: I'd rather move on. 417 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 6: You'd be rather move on the team is willing to, 418 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 6: you know, try to move this thing on so you 419 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 6: can go. 420 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: You saying Lebron handles stuff. 421 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 6: No, I'm saying I would rather Giannis had done that. 422 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 6: I'm saying come to him. And then the act is 423 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 6: if he didn't know act I don't like he was handled. 424 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: I don't. 425 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 6: I feel as though if you're Dame, who is tended 426 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 6: to be a straight up kind of guy, I think 427 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 6: he feels as if that was sneaky by Yanni's and 428 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 6: now acting like you didn't know because you can't tell 429 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 6: me he's all in. They're gonna communicate with Yiannis. He's 430 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 6: the organization, he's a team, which means he knows. And 431 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 6: then at all, I ain't like how they handled it 432 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 6: all that's kind of crazy. Oh what I'd rather you 433 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 6: straight up come to me like, yo, man, do you 434 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 6: feel me like this isn't working? You would degree, I think, 435 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 6: and let's just part ways or just to be straight 436 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 6: up like I'm not. 437 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: Happy with where the team is, y'all have to make moves. 438 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 6: Then the act like you're just so dumbfounded by this, 439 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 6: because to me, that comes off a little sneaky. I'd 440 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 6: rather every time We know everybody's expendable. We're trying to 441 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 6: do whatever it takes a win. What we got right 442 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 6: now enough and anybody can get it. If you're brandon Ingram, 443 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 6: if you're Kyle Kuzma, if you're Julius Randall on the Lakers, 444 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 6: you're expendable. I'd rather at least know that than to 445 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 6: think it's all good while I'm rehabbing and this happened Rob. 446 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Kelvin, we've tried this show for the 447 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: last ten months. I gotta tell you, I don't think 448 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: it's working out. 449 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna tell you straightforward to your face 450 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: on the show. Is that good? Is that now? 451 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 4: Now? You could have called me that you could have caught. 452 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: I'm just said. 453 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 6: You're responding to my text because right now all I 454 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 6: hear is woo wah, wah wah. 455 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: That's that's all I hear from you. 456 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to hear what you're gonna say on that one. 457 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah you want to hear it like that? 458 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Coy, that's not Howard, That's not how it works. 459 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: And you know this if you're Dame Lily right, come on, man. 460 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: Giannis is their franchise player. The same way Lebron can 461 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: act like he didn't know a d or ow I 462 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: was in the dark. 463 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what the move the Lakers are making 464 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: or whatever. 465 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't buy into all that, or when they trade 466 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: away half the team for him, as if he didn't 467 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: have anything. 468 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: To do with it. 469 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: My point is, did you have a front office, you 470 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: have an owner, you have all this stuff that's for 471 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: them to do. You don't have to feel like you 472 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: have to sign off on everything and put that's not 473 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: the onus is on me. They did they come and 474 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: ask me or tell me that they're looking to do something. 475 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: They didn't ask me for approval. They're they're just giving 476 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: me a heads up because they have respect in knowing 477 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: that I'm their top player. Now, if you're telling me 478 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: he's the one calling and making the trades and all that, 479 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: now I got something different. But for them to say, 480 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: we want to do this because Damien is not gonna 481 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: play next year, we know that we're trying to win. 482 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: The East is gonna be wide open. We want to 483 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: make something happened. This is some of the stuff we're 484 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: looking at. What do you think about him? What do 485 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: you think about that? And and I don't think he 486 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: went out of his way to be phony, like, oh 487 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe this happened. He just said basically, 488 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: I didn't like the way it happened, rather than I 489 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: don't I don't like it, or they blindsided me. 490 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: That's phony. 491 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: I don't know it was handled. 492 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, But I'm talking about saying I 493 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: was blind sided, like I don't know anything about this. 494 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, like, he didn't at least go that far 495 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: where you say, now, you're straight up lying. If you 496 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: told me that the Milwaukee Bucks are making moves and 497 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: they have included Jannie at all, that I would take 498 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: as bs if he if he really tried to run 499 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: that out there, I wouldn't have said what he said. 500 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm with you that you'd be better off not saying 501 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying something from him. But he did say 502 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: something today, which is he's excited about the moves, so 503 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: that is a positive thing and he wants to move forward. 504 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: So you kind of as the face of the team, 505 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: you gotta kind of have to say something because people 506 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: want to know, well, what does Giannis think about this? 507 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: You know, if you don't say anything, then that's kind 508 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: of weird that a major player was waved with one 509 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen million dollars on his contract and you 510 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: have no comment whatsoever. 511 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: I think that's weird. 512 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 6: Yannis doesn't really miss at the podium, right, Remember Tyrese 513 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 6: Haliburton's dad the whole issue, and then Jannis went up 514 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 6: there and just basically essentially said he was excited it 515 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 6: was his son making a magical moment. I appreciate that 516 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 6: we talked, we wrapped it up, We move on. Yannis 517 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 6: usually shoots about not he's better at that than he 518 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 6: ends at the free throw line. 519 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: But this is what I mean. 520 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 6: I get your poor That's when you say, yo, me 521 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 6: and Dad gave it a good run, which the best 522 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 6: boom boom playing it done. But oh, I don't like 523 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 6: how they handled it. That almost sounds as if you're saying, 524 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 6: I want you to still be here. I still I 525 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 6: don't like the way they had Like what they don't. 526 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 6: They gave him a bunch of money, They allowed him 527 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 6: to go anywhere he wants. 528 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: He being dame, he can now. 529 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 6: Get a minimum deal so a team can get out 530 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: of player like he's in a great situation. 531 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: So I don't like how they handled it. What does 532 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 4: that mean? And the only other option is like, do 533 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: you don't like that they released. 534 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 6: Him because they handled it pretty well in Dame's favor 535 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 6: in that regard. So, uh, I just I just think 536 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 6: this this is only gonna get messier as far as 537 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 6: what comes out. Not obviously, they're moving on and Dame 538 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 6: will rehab and eventually a land wherever he lands, and 539 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 6: the Bucks will try to compete, even they they just 540 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 6: signed Bobby Portis twice by signing Bobby ports and then 541 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 6: signing Miles Turner. But I just think this is going 542 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 6: it's gonna get messier, messier for Dame. By the way, boy, 543 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 6: I tell you, we're in a unique age where we 544 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 6: got some usually some very grown men and and and 545 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 6: and you know, well respected men, and it's a different 546 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 6: eraor you gotta like read through cod and emojis nowadays, 547 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: rob like we got. 548 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: I don't remember. 549 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember players commenting when other plays was get released. 550 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: I don't remember that happened in the NFL. 551 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 6: We were talking, remember when Michael Parsons was talking about 552 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 6: LaMarcus H. 553 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 4: Taylor and uh Lawrence. 554 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 6: I'm not trying to say yeah it was he was 555 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 6: talking about oh man, that man's money and this that 556 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 6: and good good Grittan's glad he's left. It's been some 557 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 6: some strange conversations. 558 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: Uh, DeMarcus Lawrence. 559 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 6: What I'm trying to say over with players over the 560 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 6: last you know, just the kind of this era now 561 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 6: like jumping out and I have to say. 562 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: I just don't. 563 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: I just think there's a GM and an owner and 564 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: all that. Man leave that to them. That's what they 565 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: get paid for. If somebody asked you about Dame or 566 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: ask you, hey, are you surprised that that you know, 567 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: they moved on from him or whatever, you could have 568 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: a response. You know what, I thought this was gonna 569 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: be a great match, and it just I don't know 570 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: if we just didn't get to where we thought they 571 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: we would be. But this is a little surprising to 572 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: me that he's not going to be on the team 573 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, from the standpoint like something like that. 574 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: So I understand that, but but I think you're better 575 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: off not it's too messy. You don't want to be 576 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: in there where people believe like you're running everything, you're 577 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: moving all the parts, you're the GD facto GM. Because 578 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: that's where Lebron fell in when they got with all 579 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: their young players, and every year it's just a bad 580 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: and then not. 581 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 6: Coach out the blue, it'll be a coach that you're like, wait, 582 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 6: what exactly exactly aported that stuff for the most part. 583 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 4: And I think this is why I'm saying they might 584 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: get ugly for. 585 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 6: Just he might start because just say this this run, 586 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 6: they start off ten and fifteen, it's not looking good. 587 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: And then he starts complaining. I just think this might 588 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 4: be the. 589 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 6: First run of a pretty pretty flawless as far as 590 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 6: PR what Yani is throughout the years. This next little 591 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: season for him, and by season, I mean era might 592 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 6: be where a couple of mishaps things he didn't say 593 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 6: weird issues with teammates because he overall hadn't had too 594 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: much of that. Now that Adrian Griffin thing was another 595 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 6: thing too, because like you got y'all let him go 596 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 6: to bring in doc and who I didn't see that 597 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 6: with the sense of that was either. But I just 598 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 6: think this, this last couple of years with Giannis will 599 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 6: be interesting because he has pretty much an infallible run 600 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 6: as far as the PR side of things, and it 601 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 6: might change. 602 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is definitely one of those things. 603 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: You don't want to get too worked up and have 604 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: too many people thinking you're running everything. Whose method of 605 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: roster pressure do you prefer in the shadows like Giannis 606 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: or out in the open like Lebron? 607 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: Which one? 608 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: We'll coome to you that conversation next with you eight 609 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine 610 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: nine six sixty three sixty nine. It is The Odd 611 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Couple On a worship Wednesday, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington right 612 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio, Stick and Stay America. 613 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 614 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern, 615 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 616 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: Our number three. 617 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: On a worship Wednesday, fourth of July weekend, Looming, Rob Parker, 618 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Kelvin Washington and Achy Knee stiff, back joints not cooperating up. 619 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: Some days your body is just like nope. 620 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: And on those days, luckily there's a leave with just 621 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: one pill. A leave provides up to twelve hours of 622 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: pain relief so that you can keep. 623 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: Moving use as directed. 624 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: Also, you can stream this show and all our Fox 625 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: Sports radio shows Live twenty four to. 626 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: Seven and the new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just that, 627 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill. Just search Fox Sports. 628 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Radio in the app and stream us live. One of 629 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: the new features that's right in the app is that 630 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: you can select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets, 631 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: just like the old days on the radio dial and 632 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So be sure to preset 633 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. And it will 634 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: also always, I should say, pop up at the top 635 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: of your screen. Don't forget coming up in about twenty 636 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: eight minutes. Sam Quinn medicine woman, No, Sam Quinn, CBS 637 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: Sports NBA reporter. 638 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 4: You will remember that. 639 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: What was that? 640 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 4: Wasn't that? 641 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: Was it? 642 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 4: Doctor? Yeah? 643 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: What was her name? Something Quinn medicine. 644 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 6: Medicine doctor, the medicine woman or something, No, woman, something 645 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 6: Quinn at the same doctor Quinn, medic Quinn. 646 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 4: We were on our way. We were on our way, Alex, Yeah, 647 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: I just remember her. 648 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 6: Wasn't that the same lady that was in Hangover the 649 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 6: mom in Hangover or not Hangover? The wedding crasher kiddy cab, 650 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 6: won't it heard? 651 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: Alex? Yeah, it's in color. That's why Rob Parker's never 652 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 4: heard of it, that's. 653 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: Right, Hey, and I do want to say, can we 654 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: can we send an odd couple shout out? 655 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 656 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: Who we shouting to our big boss from Premiere, Julie Talbot, 657 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: who's going to the Radio Hall of Fame. 658 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: Give it up. 659 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: Yes, And Julie is she's one of my favorite people, 660 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: not just because she's our boss, but she just is 661 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: a knight. 662 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 8: You know that you've met her, Wenna Say company parted 663 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 8: her a handful of times now and I've only you know, 664 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 8: I've been well, I've been obviously, I've worked with iHeart 665 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 8: for years, but and in this capacity for I don't know, 666 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 8: ten months or whatever it's been. 667 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 6: And she has been so sweet, so kind. Uh, you 668 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 6: know how some people roight. I think you'll get what 669 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 6: I mean by this unusually kind like man, you really 670 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 6: just are a nice, genuine person. 671 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: She is so nice. 672 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: And you know what, I gave her an odd couple hoodie, 673 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: no pull over or whatever, and she put it on, 674 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: took a picture to send it. It was really nice, 675 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like she's over all of 676 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: these stations and all this other stuff and his she 677 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: is with an odd couple, just proud. 678 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: Listen. 679 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 6: The woman has a good taste. Now come on, now, 680 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 6: she knows what to listen to. Yeah, no, no, congrats 681 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 6: to her and that's a big honor. 682 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: And of course Colin as well. 683 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 6: You maybe too, yep, Colin, congratulations to him as well. 684 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 4: And one day, man, you might you gotta be on it. 685 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 4: But thirty years doing this? Are you in it? Look key? 686 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: While I'm just assuming and you might earn No, not yet, don't. 687 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: Maybe go on a campaign. 688 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: You know, we'll see what happens. You know what I mean? 689 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 6: You know, listen this man, I am the ultimate Lebron 690 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 6: Aliu Thor, Chris Paul Aliu Thor or, Jason kidd Out. 691 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 4: I will throw some alups, you know what I mean. 692 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: Get my man in. 693 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 6: There, let me put them, Put the camera on me, 694 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 6: put the camera, put the microphone on, put the microphone 695 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 6: on me. I got something to say. Rob Parker's been 696 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 6: doing this for thirty years. He's been in market after market, 697 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 6: big market, small market, national, doesn't matter. He's done it all. 698 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 6: Get the man in the Hall of Fame. It's time. 699 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to have to come see you. He 700 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: deserves it. You heard me. I'm not scared of you. 701 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: You know where to find me. 702 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing a Rob Parker imitation in case field. My 703 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: audience doesn't know. 704 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: There you go. 705 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: Thank you right there, Alex, very nice, Alex. That was 706 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: all right on Tom. That's why the man. 707 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: Sorry ahead, Clinton Kershaw, Clayton Kershaw. Yeah, man, tonight, will 708 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 4: it be the night? It better be the night? 709 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 6: He only needs three rocks if the three strikeouts tonight 710 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 6: it was a rough night. 711 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: Yes, And and you. 712 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: Know it's a it's a benchmark in in Major League Baseball. 713 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't get there, but three thousand 714 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: strikeouts is an amazing feet only Yeah, nineteen guys, I 715 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: was just gonna say that, and only four lefty c C. Sabathia, 716 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: Randy Johnson, and Steve Carlton, I mean, all great pitchers. 717 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: And then to do it with the same team. And 718 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: Kershaw has only been a Dodger, So only three guys 719 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: have done that. Walter Johnson, who obviously uh is one 720 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: of the all time greats with the Washington Senators, and 721 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: Bob Gibson uh one of the all time great pictures 722 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: of course with the Saint Louis Cardinals. And but I 723 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: think when people look at There's two things you want 724 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: to talk about, and one is his legacy, because for 725 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: a while it wasn't good, like as good as he is, 726 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: the three Cy Youngs and all the other stuff that 727 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: he accomplished. You know, Kershaw had this reputation of not 728 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: being able to win big games. 729 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: In the playoffs. 730 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: And you know that you've been around here and the 731 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: Dodgers up until really last year, because they won in 732 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but when they wanted twenty twenty, then once 733 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: it's nineteen eighty eight, and now they've won two in 734 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: the last five years, so things feel different, even though 735 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: they've won a ton of divisions in a row, right, 736 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: like they own the NL West. And his resume, Clayton 737 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: Kershaw is spectacular. I mean it just it's hard to 738 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: look at him and I think we're looking at one 739 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 1: of the great pictures of. 740 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 2: Generation. 741 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean from the standpoint I said, 742 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: he's a ten time All Star, three National League Cy 743 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: Young Awards for the best Pitcher, he was the twenty 744 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: fourteen Most Valuable Player, and he won. 745 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: Two World Series. Now right, I mean, like Kershar does 746 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: he count? Last year? Was he does he? 747 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: Okay, he was on a team, he it counts, it counts, Okay. 748 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: So he's got two World Series and his earn run 749 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: average career two point five one, which is incredible, you know, 750 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,479 Speaker 1: in this day and age with the way people swing 751 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: the bat and all that, and he's been incredible led 752 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: the league and wins three times, e R ray leader 753 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: five times, strikeout leader three. 754 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: Times, and he pitched a no hitter. 755 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: So he has all these things, and yet the postseason 756 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: you talk about all the time about making your name 757 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: is in the postseason and until he finally won in 758 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, where he was and. 759 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: He was a part of it. 760 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: He pitched well in. 761 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: Beating Tampa Bay in that World Series that was during 762 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: the COVID year, and I covered it in Arlington, Texas, 763 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: and what I think, only thousand fans. 764 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 4: It was very strange. 765 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: I was there was very subdued and. 766 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: Different, and fourteen thousand people only could be in the building. 767 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: But they won. And I still think that that helped 768 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: to erase. 769 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: All of the damage that was done in the postseason 770 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: because a he'd finally won, but he also pitched well. 771 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: So when I look at Clayton Kershaw and his legacy, 772 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to think of him as one of the 773 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: all time greats, and getting in this exclusive club of 774 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: three thousand strikeouts only cement him even further as one 775 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: of the great pitchers of our generation. 776 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 6: Without a doubt, And I think that's clear cutting as 777 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 6: one of the you know, the great things about it 778 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 6: if you're him, is when everyone agrees that not a 779 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 6: single person undermines how great he is, not even me. Yeah, 780 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 6: not even you, and I don't even know who you 781 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 6: are right now. I thought I was getting ready to 782 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 6: have to hear Alex. I thought I was gonna hear 783 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 6: wan wah wah wah wah this whole time, and in fact, 784 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 6: I didn't heart That's what I thought I was about 785 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 6: to hear. 786 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 4: But I heard you split some backs. 787 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 6: So I just want to add a couple of things 788 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 6: to kind of contextualize what you're saying. So Clayton Kershaw, 789 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 6: I think is even better than the person I'm gonna name, 790 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 6: But I think you'll get what I mean by the 791 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 6: narrative if you go looking at it from a basketball standpoint. 792 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 6: He was kind of the James Harden where, dude, we're 793 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 6: seeing some epic all time greatness, leading league in points 794 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 6: and assists, MVP winner, multiple MVP finalists, and we're just like, man, 795 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 6: he's doing things offensively. We really haven't seen like this, 796 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 6: But man, is it underwhelming in the playoffs. 797 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 4: Something just isn't right. It's not clicking. 798 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 6: And Clayton's has a thirteen and thirteen playoff record of 799 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 6: five hundred. But here's the challenge, and you know this, 800 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 6: his era goes up drastically. It's four point four to 801 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 6: nine in the postseason and thirty. 802 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: Two five one exactly. Were e al right, two five one. 803 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 6: And you're like, okay, that can't be like, that's a 804 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 6: drastic difference, right, two five to one, but in the 805 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 6: postseason or as two point eight, So okay, I can 806 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 6: deal with that. You know, maybe some pressurized moments, you know, 807 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 6: I get it. And that has been the problem. And 808 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 6: it wasn't just simply Rob that, hey, you know, he 809 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 6: gives up a little bit. 810 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 4: It was that he had. 811 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 6: Very memorable losses and specifically, as you knew, and the 812 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 6: joke was the seventh inning, here comes the seventh inning 813 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 6: with Kershaw. Oh here comes to say, even Dodger fans 814 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 6: who love and adore the man and his family would go, 815 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 6: who I'm nervous the seventh inning, and so that became 816 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 6: the thing for him. It happened in twenty fourteen and 817 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 6: the Nlds against the Cardinals, and he gave up multiple 818 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 6: home runs in crucial settings. He happened in the twenty 819 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 6: seven season, twenty seventeen postseason. 820 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 4: You also remember that astro, right, I. 821 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: Mean down to twenty seventeen, that's what And I won 822 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: the Jordans from Chris That was the one. 823 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 3: Up. 824 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I'll never forget that one because Kershaw. And that's 825 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: when the Nationals went on to win. 826 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, who is that one? Every time we turned around 827 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 6: he was giving up a home run. It was like, 828 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 6: was that the Washington Nationals with that one in twenty nineteen? 829 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 6: That's the one you're talking about? Twenty nineteen the Nationals. Yeah, 830 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 6: twenty seventeen was a different one there. But my point is, yeah, 831 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 6: twenty nineteen is the one you're talking about. But he 832 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 6: just had these moments where you're like that that can't 833 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 6: be the lasting playoff moment. 834 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 4: I think of plating Kershaw. 835 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 6: And so for him and the team to exercise the 836 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 6: demons in twenty twenty and him they able to have 837 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 6: some success and be a part of it, I think 838 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 6: helped him. And I actually think it was a universal side, Rob, 839 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 6: And I think this is rare where you get a 840 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 6: universal side relief like, Okay, that guy got one, you 841 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 6: know what I mean, And that guy was able to 842 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 6: be a part of a winning season because so many 843 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 6: people like him, so many people love what he does, 844 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 6: him and his wife and the charite of the Kirshall Foundation, 845 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 6: and had just been a heck of a career. Then 846 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 6: I think there was a universal side of relief that 847 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 6: he finally was able to get it done, get that 848 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 6: monkey off his back. Now here's what's become interesting. They 849 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 6: win last year and he even joked like I'm the 850 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 6: happiest I've ever been. And I wasn't even a part 851 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 6: of it, because even iber he was injured, couldn't do 852 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 6: anything in the postseason. He pitchedhim during the regular season, 853 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 6: but not during the postseason. And he has been so elated. 854 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 6: You've been here now for like ten years. I've been 855 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 6: here for fourteen years. Never seen him this elated, joyous 856 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 6: even and crying and emotional, had just screaming and going 857 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 6: crazy at the parade. And I think that's because Rob, 858 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 6: you know how meticulous he was everybody knew, don't talk 859 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 6: to him, don't do anything on a kersh all day. 860 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 6: He has to be out at the you know, warming 861 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 6: up at this time, and at twenty two he needs 862 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 6: to be doing this, and at four twenty eighty and 863 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 6: he's just so would tight that I think he finally 864 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 6: was able to just enjoy baseball, you know what I mean, 865 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 6: just enjoy the ride. 866 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: So that was awesome scene because he had won in 867 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, you know what I mean, Like if he 868 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: if he hadn't won, they hadn't won that one and 869 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: he couldn't pitch in last year's right, I think it 870 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: would probably would have drove him crazy. 871 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 6: Eating him, eating him alive, I agree, But having that 872 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 6: one off, that monkey off his back and having that 873 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 6: one in his back pocket. 874 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 4: He was able to enjoy it. 875 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 6: So he's been he's been spectacular. He is embodied, which 876 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 6: is why I think the Dodgers robed kind of doing 877 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 6: a Laker move, and that there have been moments where 878 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 6: do you let him go? Does he come back? Do 879 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 6: you just say, hey, man, look bro, we don't want 880 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 6: to make this look back. Can you just go on 881 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 6: and have a you know, let's just have had a 882 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 6: great career now like last season he could have Duke. 883 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 4: He went off a champion. 884 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 6: Now he's back trying to get to three thousand, and 885 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 6: obviously he wants to and he's competing. 886 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 4: I think he's four and oh this season so far too. 887 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: So here's the other thing too. 888 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: That we should talk about real quickly, and then we'll 889 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: get to some of your calls on on Clayton Kershew 890 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: just where he fits in. Some people are thinking that 891 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: there might not be another pitcher, right, you know, to 892 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: be able to. 893 00:41:59,560 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 4: Reach that. 894 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: You already have. 895 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: Justin Erlander and Max Schurz are currently active pitchers who 896 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: have reached the three thousand strikeouts. And after Kershaw, who's 897 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: obviously three strikeouts away, the next closest is the Braves 898 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: Chris Sayle, and he's got twenty five two thy five 899 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight, so he's got away Garrett Cole 900 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: with the Yankees two hundred and fifty one. And you know, 901 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: some people are saying we'll never see another guy strike 902 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: out three thousand. I disagree, and I know you guys. 903 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: Yesterday we kind of touched on this a little. 904 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: Bit, and I brought up Tark's. 905 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: Schoobel with the Tigers, and people are like, well, guys 906 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: don't pitch as long into games, and that's why they 907 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: don't think he'll get it. But Targ didn't have to 908 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: pitch nine and is to get thirteen strikeouts. This is 909 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: in this era right now, Kelvin. People are more apt 910 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: to swing big, you know what I mean? And strikeouts 911 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: aren't looked at as negative as they used to be. 912 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: Where you used to try to put the ball and 913 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: play right you want to you don't want to ground 914 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: You rather ground out a flyout than strikeout. 915 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 2: That's not where it is now. 916 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: So so you can get ten strikeouts in six innings, 917 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: or as Targ school Schooble did, was thirteen strikeouts in 918 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: seven innings, do you know what I mean? Like like, 919 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: you don't need as many innings pitch to get as 920 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: many strikeouts. 921 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: So I do believe there will be a talent and a. 922 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: Schemes or a Schoolbul or somebody of that ilk who 923 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: will have a chance to get that many strikeouts because 924 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: they're that good. So I'm not closing the book on 925 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: three thousand strikeouts. 926 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 6: I'm closing a book like a terrible new book you 927 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 6: got at an airport on for you when you're going 928 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 6: on that plane ride slamming it, Rob, it ain't happen. Cappen, no, 929 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 6: sir uh. And and do you minute you brought up 930 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 6: schoobl you can also bring up pause games. They did 931 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 6: some number crunching and you look at it. Those are 932 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 6: the strikeout leaders from last season. So Scooble, he got 933 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 6: two hundred and twenty five k's, it would and he 934 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 6: had an outstanding and we know that it would take 935 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 6: him over thirteen rob thirteen more of those same. 936 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 4: Exact seasons to reach thirteen thousand. 937 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 6: That means he has to be the best pitcher in 938 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 6: baseball for thirteen more seasons just to get there. And 939 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 6: then is Paul's games. I was just gonna give you 940 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 6: his numbers real quick. He had two hundred and eighty 941 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 6: strikeouts last year's in two hundred and thirty nineties pitch 942 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 6: he would have to have. He would have get to 943 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 6: two thousand, three hundred if he was at that same 944 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 6: rate another thirteen so it. 945 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: Would be But that's but that's a great pitcher, right 946 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: as who pitched that long they pitched Baseball's different like, 947 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: but this is only twenty. 948 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 4: And one hundred and fifty years. 949 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: Rob, No, but I'm saying but of and I'm not 950 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: saying everybody's gonna do it, but to say that nobody 951 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: in the history of baseball's ever gonna get to that mark, I. 952 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: Disagree, all right. 953 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven 954 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine. 955 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 2: What is Clayton Kershaw's legacy? To you? 956 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 1: Choker in the postseason, one of the all time greats 957 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: of our generation? 958 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 2: Where are you? 959 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: And do you think we'll ever see another three thousand 960 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: strikeout picture? Kelvin says no, I say, yes, where are you? 961 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: We'll continue that conversation next with you. Eight seven seven 962 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: ninety nine off Fox. It is the odd couple On 963 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 1: a worship Wednesday. Rob Parker Kelvin Washington, stick and strike 964 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: out and stay I mean 965 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 4: America.