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Speaker 1: I've been knowing Baron since he came in the gym

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Speaker 1: and bus Kobe up when he was youngster. See a

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't know these stories. Remember those runs,

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Speaker 1: he said. The little kid came in and was going at.

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Speaker 2: The coach this high school Baron.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was on my tap tom. I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: So the first time he got the ball, he went

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Speaker 3: Was like, I want you to go in. He was like,

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Speaker 3: And he's staring at the pine. Kobe press is the

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Speaker 1: When them two start going at it, motherfucker's just.

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Speaker 2: Is there a play or sequence that you'll never forget?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I do a pig, big big, tell me to pig.

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Speaker 4: I do a pig, big big sea. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 4: a big, big big sing it again.

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Speaker 3: I have a pig.

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Speaker 4: I do a big, big big sing it again.

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Speaker 3: I do a big.

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Speaker 2: What is up? What is good? How you living, how

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Speaker 2: you're feeling, how you're doing it? Is another episode of

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Speaker 2: the Big Podcast with Shack, where we always do it

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Speaker 2: Big Shack, My, you got a lot of headroom right now?

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Speaker 2: Are you what's on your shirt? What do you hide him?

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Speaker 1: I knew he was going to do that, all right,

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Speaker 1: all right, get out of cowboys, shir Hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to bash my cowboy. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to read Dack's lips. I want the fans

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Speaker 1: Did he say what I think he said?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like he said, we fucking suck you.

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: What could it have possibly have been if it wasn't that?

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Speaker 1: We love each other? So I don't know it just okay,

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Speaker 1: we're not having a good Okay. I have a question,

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Speaker 2: You guys are in trouble right now, especially because the

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Speaker 2: news just came out that Dak's going to miss a

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Speaker 2: few weeks and with Washington being six and two in

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Speaker 2: the Eagles Washington seven and two and the Eagles being

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Speaker 2: six and two, you guys are in trouble. In his

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Speaker 2: most recent Adidas campaign, which have been very celebrated and

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Speaker 2: very applauded, Anthony Edwards had some kids sitting around a fire,

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Speaker 2: a bonfire talking about Anthony Edwards, and one of the

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Speaker 2: lines was one of the kids goes, he's probably both

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Speaker 2: broken more rims than shack, and then another little kid

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Speaker 2: these Anthony Edwards commercials has taken a lot of shots.

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Speaker 2: There was one that took shots at the Celtics. A

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Speaker 2: lot of them talked about disrespect. This is the first

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Speaker 2: time we're out of nowhere. They took seemingly a shot

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Speaker 1: Got it. I know how to respond.

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Speaker 2: When that happens. Where how does your brain start working?

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Because you have fun with stuff like this.

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Speaker 1: So that's what it's all about. Having fun. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Dak Can I give Can I give our guests a

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Speaker 1: Yes you can.

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Speaker 2: From South Central LA to the NBA's main stage. This

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Speaker 2: man brought grit, heart and the perfect amount of rage,

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Speaker 2: a West Coast king with a handle so tight and

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Speaker 2: that playoff dunk over. Carlenko was the original Warriors Night Night,

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Speaker 2: the man acts, produce, invest advises, and a million things

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Speaker 2: one on a podcast with Draymond Green in the Virtual

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Speaker 2: Shahoka Lounge. Today, let's give it out for Baron freaking Davis.

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Speaker 3: That was amazing. That was amazing.

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Speaker 1: You forgot one and he's smooth and smelled. He's the

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Speaker 1: first motherfucker to dunk on somebody with an AD belt.

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Speaker 2: You've thought about Baron Davis's AD belt with that Caro

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Speaker 1: When you dunked on Carolinko and you showed us to

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Speaker 3: How that thing comey? Because I was using it? You

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That was It was like, is that yeah? That's

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Speaker 3: that's because they used to call me fat too, sha Man.

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Speaker 2: He used to say, what were you like, body fat

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Speaker 2: Right now, but Shaq, like you need to understand. Most

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Speaker 3: I couldn't get like that was trying to get down

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Speaker 2: Aaron WPS has no white boy ship white boys shlesten.

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know these stories. And that's

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Speaker 1: when I was like, who's this kid? Is that man

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay, it was crazy.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Shaq, come up to U c l A you

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Speaker 1: He remember that in this particular day, somebody was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: So the first time he got the ball, he went

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Speaker 3: The trackers like, I want you to go at it.

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Speaker 3: He's like, don't be scared him The ball going as us.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so you're what seventeen, eighteen years old?

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Speaker 2: And are you confident or are you pretending to be confident?

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Speaker 1: He's quiet?

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Speaker 1: No, he's he's quiet. He's being quiet. You know, he's quiet.

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Speaker 1: He's being respectful, letting all the play players get the runs.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in charge, but I'm one of the old heads.

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Speaker 2: So this is were you already mister California? All that stuff?

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Speaker 1: That was?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like my going into my senior year.

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Speaker 2: And so now you're up against you're up against Kobe.

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Speaker 2: What was it looking at his eyes? What was it like?

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Speaker 3: Man? It was I mean it was a surreal moment,

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you got Kobe and Shaq,

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Speaker 3: You got a name? Oh him?

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Speaker 3: It was just I can't you know, I came up.

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Speaker 2: Was there a play or sequence that you'll never forget,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, give it to Baron. Man, I don't give give

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Speaker 2: I ever to be like fuck him up, like that's just.

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Speaker 1: He was on that.

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Speaker 3: I was. He was running point, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Because like I always try to tell kids, whoever the

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Speaker 1: first ninety million dollar players. Now just now, just thinking

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Speaker 1: I was just trying to motivate the young player. It's

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Speaker 1: He wasn't really getting no runs. I was like letting

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Speaker 2: My last question about that, Baron is because I'm still

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Speaker 3: Here for a year and how to stop playing basketball

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Speaker 2: Cowboys at Falcons, Okay, I don't know if you've gotten

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Speaker 1: I'm getting this one right. Let's call Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: He is in Atlanta, our guest today. He is an

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Speaker 2: it Falcons are five and three. Cowboys are three and four.

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Speaker 2: Falcons have won four of their last five games Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: What's the score? Cowboys twenty one two.

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Speaker 2: For seventeen, twenty one to seventeen. Cowboys win by four. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Alo On Stefan Diggs just got hurt wh for the Texans. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 2: Okay, you were worried about Trayvon Diggs as brother Trayvon Diggs.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys, we should have won that game the other day.

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Speaker 2: He was on that list to people you don't funk with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the game, in the game, coming up to

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Speaker 3: Is hey Shack sick? Bro? He came to Charlotte. He

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Speaker 3: But let.

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Speaker 1: Kobe you got him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Nope, defense man.

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Speaker 3: Oh Man, Me and Cole used to go out and Shaq, Hey, bro,

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Speaker 3: Shack put that battery packing and remember Kobe hit the

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Speaker 3: paying attention on none of that. I'm just so locking

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Speaker 1: About my whole day up.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, man, when I look up Baron Davis, Kobe

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Speaker 3: Oh the one I go to state.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, because I was you.

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Speaker 2: Know, some battles.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love it man.

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Speaker 1: So baron, speaking of Golden State, how in the hell

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're along like no one else. And as

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Speaker 2: We got to find a way to them back. And

437
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Speaker 2: then you come in and then right away in pure

438
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Speaker 2: Baron fashion, just like speaking the truth. And like I

439
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: was looking at your quote on Doc mainly because I've

440
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 2: been getting like Shack made a comment at our LSU

441
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Speaker 2: stop where he was like I like the Bucks and

442
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: I was like I don't know, and then Shack went

443
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Speaker 2: why And all I said was Doc and he just

444
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Speaker 2: went okay. And then you and I have had Doc's

445
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: other sons in the comment section being like, you wouldn't

446
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Speaker 2: say that to his face, but you said a Doc

447
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 2: Rivers team is a beatable team. I don't give a

448
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: fuck how much talent they got, and I appreciate honesty.

449
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: They are one in five at the time we're recording this.

450
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Speaker 2: They're taking on the seven and oh Cleveland Cavaliers tonight.

451
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Speaker 2: And this is just statistics. In his first forty two

452
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Speaker 2: games with the Bucks, the Bucks are eighteen and twenty four.

453
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Speaker 2: In Adrian Griffin's first forty three games with the they

454
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Speaker 2: were thirty and thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Is it really a fault?

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Speaker 3: I mean when you look at you know, SEAQ, you know,

457
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: like the DNA, right, and so when the coach got

458
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Speaker 3: a system right and the system trumps the players right,

459
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 3: then the players can't live out their capacity. They gonna

460
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: have great games, right. But the team on a line,

461
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Speaker 3: you feel what I'm saying, so like they've been they've

462
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Speaker 3: been used to win it and playing a certain way. Right.

463
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Speaker 3: Even with Agent Griffinth, people talked about their defense all

464
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Speaker 3: that shit, But to me, the best offense is what

465
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Speaker 3: great defense? Now you bring Doc in and now you

466
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Speaker 3: defensive minded. But your offense you run the same offense

467
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Speaker 3: that you ran with the Celtics with Kevin Garnett.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You run the same offense you ran with the Clippers,

470
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Speaker 3: and now you're trying to implement that Inlwaukee. That offense

471
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Speaker 3: does not translated in these modern times. It's a pattern.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you ain't no flun Can I tell

473
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Speaker 1: you why I picked Milwaukee? Sure, because back in our

474
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Speaker 1: day your day too, if something happened I wasn't supposed

475
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Speaker 1: to happen, wouldn't that piss you off? In the summer

476
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Speaker 1: for example? No, no disrespect to Bust. They had one

477
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Speaker 1: of the easiest championship runs. Ever, let's just put it out.

478
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Speaker 1: Couple of rich is hurt when they played Indiana. A

479
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: couple of guys hurt so but they wanted they got

480
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Speaker 1: the chip. I was thinking Dame and Yannis was gonna

481
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Speaker 1: be so goddamn mad, the day's gonna come back crazy.

482
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Speaker 1: But it hasn't happened. I was thinking Embeid and Paul

483
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Speaker 1: George is gonna be so goddamn mad. It's that crazy.

484
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Speaker 1: You know who's mad? Downavin Mitchell is mad. Mitchell was

485
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Speaker 1: mad or the Orlando Magic.

486
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Speaker 2: Pollo hurt, but he was on fire those first few games.

487
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Speaker 2: But you're right, Cavs started off seven and zero. And

488
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Speaker 2: you know what's funny, man, is the Celtics, the team

489
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: that won, was mad because Tatum got disrespected at Team USA.

490
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: Jalen got disrespected by being left off the team. And

491
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Speaker 2: of every team in the NBA, they look more they got,

492
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Speaker 2: they got the most gright.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

494
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Speaker 2: The other thing Shack that I was going to bring

495
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Speaker 2: up just about the Bucks was usually it takes that

496
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Speaker 2: second year for new acquisitions to gel, which is what

497
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Speaker 2: it would have been for the Bucks. But you see

498
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Speaker 2: some of the newer guys. Year two of Kyrie is

499
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Speaker 2: when it started to flow. Year two of the of

500
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Speaker 2: the like even the Heat when they put together with

501
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Speaker 2: Lebron and Dwayne Wade. It was year two when they

502
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Speaker 2: won a championship, and we're seeing it go backwards.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't blame Duck because when you're one

504
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Speaker 1: of two of the star players, you have a chance

505
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Speaker 1: to buck the system. Don't go I'm not doing that shit.

506
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Speaker 1: It ain't working. I'm doing this. You have a chance.

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, so all the other coaches

508
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Speaker 1: that I played for, and I've never had a losing season.

509
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Speaker 1: But the reason why I respect the field so much

510
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Speaker 1: because I knew his system worked. You know, we started

511
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Speaker 1: off I think it was three and nine or three

512
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: and something. But once we got it, and once you know,

513
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: Kobe figured out his spots, I figured out my spot,

514
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: we flourishing. But you know, I was getting ready to

515
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Speaker 1: bucket system. But I was like, you know what about

516
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: bucket system? And we like always, he's not used to always.

517
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Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna lose when we'll beat the laughing stock

518
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Speaker 1: in the NBA. I was.

519
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Speaker 2: I was over at Champ Bailey's house after the college

520
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Speaker 2: football game on Saturday, and we're watching NBA TV and

521
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Speaker 2: I look at the Bucks lose, so I think the

522
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Speaker 2: Calves or something, and I look and I go, Jannis

523
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Speaker 2: and Drama and Damon Lillard combined for eighty points and

524
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Speaker 2: they lost. And you start realizing, man, like your two

525
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526
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Speaker 1: that said the the viewership is down. Is that true? So?

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Speaker 2: According to statistics that have come out from a year ago,

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Speaker 2: the a number of the primetime games, that's the main

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Speaker 2: way they see is they pick like season opener versus

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Speaker 2: season opener. Apparently it is down in a few places.

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Speaker 2: I saw you post that on your ig. Do you

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Speaker 2: have a theory.

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Speaker 1: I have a theory that's down because we're looking at

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Everybody's in the same play as the

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Speaker 1: damn top of the key dripple handoff. I was talking

585
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Speaker 1: to a coach yesterday. He said, they want to shoot

586
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Speaker 1: fifty threes. But you know, they were trying to contemplate

587
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Speaker 1: if I could play in this era, and it's like, yo, chaffs,

588
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Speaker 1: we would just shoot fifty three. And it's like, well,

589
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Speaker 1: how much you want to make? If we want to

590
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Speaker 1: make about ten or fifteen of them. It's like, well,

591
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Speaker 1: that's not going to help you win. But I think

592
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Speaker 1: everybody's looking at the same thing, and Steph Curry and

593
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: those guys mess it up. Like I don't mind Golden

594
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Speaker 1: State back in the day shooting grease, but every team's

595
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Speaker 1: not a three point shooter. So why everybody has the

596
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Speaker 1: same strategy. I think it makes a game boring. I

597
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Speaker 1: remember back in our day, Marion Utah is gonna run

598
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Speaker 1: some shit, the Clippers gonna run some shit. The Lakers

599
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Speaker 1: had the triangle, Miami had to floppy, you know, every team,

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Speaker 1: Like we had to have like an hour and a

601
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Speaker 1: half shoot around to try to stop other team plays.

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Speaker 1: Now it's everything. You switch everything. You got motherfucking Victor

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Speaker 1: Wimgyana Garden, God, damn Donovan Mitchell at the top of

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Speaker 1: the key. That ain't no good basketball. So I think

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Speaker 1: viewership will continue to go down unless you switch thing

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Speaker 1: back up.

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Speaker 2: On that TNT opening night, there were two games. There

608
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Speaker 2: were one hundred and sixty two threes shot in those

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Speaker 2: two games alone. Guys like Anthony Edwards right now are

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Speaker 2: shooting like ten threes a game. They were shooting half

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Speaker 2: that last year. And when asked, you know, what do

612
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Speaker 2: you think about people that want you to drive to

613
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Speaker 2: the lane, he says, fuck them, because this is what

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Speaker 2: the coaches want. It is undoubtedly always a copycat league,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people are saying that it sounds

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Speaker 2: dumb that threes are worth that much more than twos,

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Speaker 2: But we've now. I think what happens is is you

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Speaker 2: start now drafting players for that, you start changing philosophies,

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Speaker 2: and then it changes the makeup of who's playing in

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Speaker 2: the NBA as well. So Baron, like, as you're hearing

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Speaker 2: all that, as someone that did play the guard position,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think you know, shooting a lot of threes like

625
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Speaker 3: not ain't gonna work when you look at you look

626
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Speaker 3: at the top top team and the bottom bottom team.

627
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: The bottom bottom team is just horrible playing the style

628
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Speaker 3: at the top team plays. And so you know, that's

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Speaker 3: why coaching is right now is important, you know in

630
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Speaker 3: the league, because as soon as you change the style,

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Speaker 3: people are like players are programmed to only shoot threes.

632
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Speaker 3: There's no you miss out on the one on one matchups, right,

633
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Speaker 3: everybody switching. So when you watching the game, it's like, well,

634
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Speaker 3: it ain't no matchups, right, it ain't no matchups, it

635
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Speaker 3: ain't no nicknames, Like we gotta get back to like

636
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Speaker 3: where are the rivalries? You just coming down shooting threes. That'

637
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Speaker 3: shit like it. You know, it's like you ain't taking

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Speaker 3: nobody to the whole. I would say with Anthony Yeller

639
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Speaker 3: was like, you know, I want to see him. I

640
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Speaker 3: want to like everybody was anticipating him coming into this

641
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Speaker 3: season taking the next next level, taking into the next

642
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Speaker 3: next level. You feel me and for him, like yeah,

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Speaker 3: the threes, it's cool. Well, bro, like you supposed to.

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Speaker 3: You're supposed to show us some different shit that and this,

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Speaker 3: and like you are the evolution of the three point era,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean.

648
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Speaker 3: It's like you should have a mid brands, you should

649
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Speaker 3: have a post game. You should be dunking on people.

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Speaker 3: You should be going to the whole, you know what

651
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: I mean. Like you're supposed to take your whole capacity,

652
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I think a lot

653
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: of times with this whole like oh we got to

654
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: make fifteen threes, Like it don't create flow, so there's

655
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: like there's no EBB and flowing, no story to the game,

656
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: like the games used to have storylines. You feel what

657
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and it was all kind of moments in there.

658
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: Is a great example shock of this though. What did

659
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: we say when he first got on Man that dunk

660
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: over Carolino in the playoffs? I'll never forget it. Can

661
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: you name me a three in the playoffs? Maybe other

662
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: than Kyrie Irving in the finals to win the championship

663
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: that you're like, Man, that three was awesome.

664
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: Only one because Minnesota was up in Dallas, and Dallas

665
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: came storming back and Rudy Gobert switches on the looker.

666
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, watched this and he looked

667
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: at him with a little smile and step back and

668
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: hit the three. It was good for me because we

669
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: got to go back to da Land. He about to

670
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: go back to Dallas to the playoffs, but then we

671
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: had to come back to Minnesota. But that's probably the

672
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: only three I can remember from last year because it

673
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: was It was because for a big guys, it's a

674
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: numb tho, like, hey, you guard him all this lazy?

675
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: Like to me, it's just lazy. It's just lazy, like

676
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, like the Utah. The pick and roll was

677
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: the most table player. Only one team figured it out,

678
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: and that was the Bulls. Everybody else you got pick

679
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: and roll to death. So these things you got to

680
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: figure out. Imagine switching out, Oh you tell it? It

681
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: won I mean, you know, switching back in the day.

682
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: You tell what it demolished the Bulls because they'll go

683
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: switch on, switch on a Stockton and Malone doing the

684
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: picking round. Bj Armstrong m kidding me.

685
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: So I used to think, oh, well, you can't change.

686
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: So here are some of the suggestions that I have

687
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: heard about fixing the over reliance on three point shooting.

688
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: I've heard Number one, do we make the court a

689
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 2: little bit wider. Here's the reason, because the quarter threes

690
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: are shorter than any other shot, and so if you

691
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: make it wider, there's less incentive to shoot corner threes

692
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: because it's not closer than the three at the top

693
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: of the key. Shaq, you don't like that one because

694
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: I don't.

695
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't like your changing stuff. That's that's that's

696
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: that's already perfect.

697
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: So here's the thing though, Like I saw, I saw

698
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: an IG post yesterday that said if there was a

699
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: three point line when Pete Maravich played, he would have

700
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: averaged fifty a game. We've changed the game before. There

701
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: wasn't a three point line that we added it.

702
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: Okay, but hold on, hold on right extra court space? Yeah,

703
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: bahlo on, you said belone, you say Pete merritage. Pistol

704
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: p ain't only known for shooting threes now, Pistol p

705
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: lack and past. So I don't like that comparison with

706
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: pistol pete. But listen, everything that's created is perfect. We

707
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: as humans fuck it up. If you think about love,

708
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: the way love is supposed to be is perfect. We

709
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: know it's I'm giving you about I'm giving you the

710
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: nail analogy. The way love is written now I was

711
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: supposed to be boom and bad man and woman is perfect.

712
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: We as humans fucked it up. The game has already

713
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: been perfect ever since Natesmith, you know, created it. It's perfect.

714
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: We as humans fucked it up. Excuse me. This new

715
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: era of humans is sucking up because the way they

716
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: did it was good. The way we did it we

717
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: boom boom, boom boom. Golden statements came in and change it.

718
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: And you made a great point. It's a copycat lee.

719
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to be cry but everybody's not stuff gardy

720
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: and that's why viewership is now. But these dudes need

721
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: to fucking they need to wake up because the viewership

722
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: now that money gonna come down and everybody talking about

723
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars that can be effector.

724
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: We never want to fuck with statistics and stuff because

725
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: it messes up the all time ranks and all that,

726
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: and I get it. Then let's mess with something that

727
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: we can all agree needs to be changed. That's the

728
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: All Star Game. I have a suggestion, and I want

729
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: to know your guys opinion. Let's not have a three

730
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: point line for the All Star Game. Let's just see

731
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: if there's no threes in the All Star Game? Do

732
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: we get more moves? Do we get more drives? Do

733
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: we get more dunks?

734
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: The All Star is a self pride thing. You know

735
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: why I wanted to play an All Star game because

736
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: when I was in college and I thought Magic Johnson

737
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: was never gonna come back, he came back to Orlando

738
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: and I sit in my room with my fucking twenty

739
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: inch TV and I watched this man have a great

740
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: All Scar game and hit the game winner. I always

741
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: said to myself, like Marin used to say in the gym.

742
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I want to be like that. You gotta have fucking pride, man,

743
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: all that, Oh, I don't want to get hurt. You

744
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: gotta have pride. And those that don't have pride, this

745
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: is why the product is going down. You don't like

746
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: my suggestion, No, we're not Listen, we're not changing because

747
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: these guys don't have no fucking pride. You know, it's

748
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: funny to me. You don't want to get hurt. You

749
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: need to get hurt. Your team ain't gonna win it anyway.

750
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: One or two players that have a chance of winning

751
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: could say I don't want to get hurt, but like

752
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: all fourteen guys saying I can't win hurt. All fourteen

753
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: guys know they're not gonna win the championship. You need

754
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: fucking pride.

755
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: When the rules did they change for you? Did you?

756
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: I know they changed the baskets because of you. Did

757
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: they change any of the rules because of you?

758
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? They allowed fucking zone defense and allowed you know,

759
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: the front and back and all that stuff. But I

760
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: took proud of that change.

761
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: They changed the hack of player.

762
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Rules, yeah, all that, but just listen.

763
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, man, Rules can be changed.

764
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: That's different. That wasn't the better of the game. I

765
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 1: was to help people compete with the alien on the shack.

766
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: That's why they implemented those rules. But in the also game,

767
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: you got to realize if you have some pride and

768
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: you play with some pride and energy, it's good for everybody.

769
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to be there. I wanted to get MVP.

770
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to put on the show. I wanted to

771
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: shoot a three. And even in the dunk contest, all

772
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: these great dunkers have some pride. They want to compete.

773
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's scared of losing. Oh, I don't want to. I

774
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: don't want moles and get embarrassed. Imagine if you know,

775
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: Dominique said, Mike's coming here, I don't want to dunk.

776
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: Dominique Willkin stepped up to the challenge, and that's why

777
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: that's one of the best dunk contests ever. I have

778
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: some pride, like you know, like it ain't got nothing

779
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: to do with the rules. It's these players. These players

780
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: ain't got no pride.

781
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: Well, there was another media beef that is developing right now.

782
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant came out and said, quote, I've been in

783
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: the league for eighteen years. I've never seen steven A

784
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: at a practice or a film session, only on TV

785
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: talking about players. He's a clown to me, and steven

786
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: A on first take this morning said, I'm not going

787
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: to stoop to that la. He's level. He's one of

788
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 2: the great players. He's a great person. And he talked

789
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: about how he was a columnist and all that stuff,

790
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: and he asked the question, who is allowed to talk

791
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: about Kevin Durant. He got mad at Charles Barkley and

792
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp and other players and fans. Is anyone allowed

793
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: to talk about Kevin Durant? This is a developing situation, Shack.

794
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: So let me tell you because Kevin Durant is probably

795
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: similar to my situation. When we've been there and done that.

796
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: Give us o respect, that's how we want so so long. Oh,

797
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: you ain't doing it. You ain't doing it. You ain't

798
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: doing you ain't doing He did it, y'all, question how

799
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: he did it. Don't mind it. He did it. He's

800
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: one of the greatest. Given rerespect. I think he likes honest,

801
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: Like if you say, okay, he shot two for nineteen,

802
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: he had a bad game, he can live with that,

803
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: but don't say, oh, he's not one of the top shooters.

804
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: So he just like when when you challenge us to

805
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: do it and we've done it, we have G fourteen classification,

806
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: give us fucking respect, because if you don't give us

807
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: it sounds like like hey, now, stephen A, he's been

808
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: doing it his whole career. It I call it challenging people,

809
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: and listen, this is their job, our job. Everybody has

810
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: an opinion. Everybody's gonna do what they do. And I

811
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: actually saw this yesterday. I thought this was old beef,

812
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: but I mean this is this is this is new

813
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: big Guess what. Guess what. It's interesting and I'm gonna

814
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: be watching and I'm gonna just be laughing and sending

815
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: stuff to you guys. But I think I kind of

816
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: understand where where Kevin Durant's gonna because I still go

817
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: through it now. Oh him, like, bro, got fucking four rings.

818
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: It's four rings not enough. The four rings not enough

819
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: for me to be in the like all the ship,

820
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: all the ship I did. I had one thing that

821
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: I really couldn't do and y'all told that in my

822
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: face all the time, which is fine. I could deal

823
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 1: with it. I'm not gonna be trying to fight people.

824
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: How many people do you think the NBA feel the

825
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: same way Katie does about Stephen I.

826
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: Uh, I say a lot. I say, it's a little

827
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: bit of a shock. What percentage I say, I say,

828
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 3: we about probably in the eighties, somewhere in the eighties

829
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: eighty percent. But to your point, Shack is like Stephen

830
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: A is a motivated you know what I mean, Like

831
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: because if he's saying your name in the media like

832
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: you have you know what I mean, like you a storyline,

833
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 3: he building the storyline and narrative on the KDS side.

834
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: To your point, Shack, like, man, this man is one

835
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: of the greatest to ever do it right. And so

836
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: there's a level of when Stephen A, you know, whatever

837
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: it is, it feels personal. And I think that's what

838
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: that's what rubbed people the wrong way, is like how

839
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: you personally delivering it like you know me, homie, you

840
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: know what I mean? You know, you know what I mean?

841
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: Like it because it feels personal in his delivery to

842
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: you know, the greater media. So you're paint in this

843
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: narrative of somebody and people looking at you as a

844
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: trusted source. But like that's why he said bro, you

845
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: ain't not ain't never seen you, you ain't never been

846
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: at nowhere? Like, so where is all this personal? Like it?

847
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: And and then on the other side, stephen A is

848
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 3: a fan. You feel what I'm saying, and so as

849
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 3: a fan, you feel like you got a personal connection

850
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: to a Shack And like Shack conversations or KD conversations

851
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 3: is up for debate. So you know they gonna keep beefing.

852
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: Uh maybe a KD uh stephen A Smith boxing a

853
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 3: boxing event for charity during All Star Week. We should

854
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: let him go to catch that fame they sat sack

855
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: forget shack comedy. Let's do catch the fag. Indeed, the

856
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: dude give him the big boxings. Come on, man, nobody.

857
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: Adam with so Adam with steven A's response, will there

858
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: be a comeback?

859
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: Or or like with Stephen Steve, stephen A said something

860
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: on first take and in a very stephen A way

861
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: at the end said, and I have much more to

862
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: say about this on my YouTube show. So he's gonna

863
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: do more. Okay, Steve is going to promote his own

864
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: ship on first take and then yea, the you know

865
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: the the question will be too is if I'm KD.

866
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: When's the next time do the Suns play on ESPN?

867
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: And if you have a big game and you get

868
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: that postgame interview, do you take another shot? Because in

869
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: the world of like marketing and stuff, keep it going.

870
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: You should, you should?

871
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: You should.

872
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: Man, we gotta build up more storylines than narratives. And

873
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: stephen A is a part of the storyline and the narrative,

874
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 3: and you gotta use this, you know what I mean?

875
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: Who's the who's the best coach you ever played for?

876
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: And who's the worst?

877
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: The best coach I played for? Uh? I mean Don

878
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: Nelson was good. I would say Mike Wilson was really good. Actually,

879
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: bron Scott was good. The worst coach is somewhere between,

880
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: Like I would say Mike Dunlevy and uh and uh

881
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: Mike d s sorry and uh, what's that dude name?

882
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: I remember his name?

883
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: What stop on?

884
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: Uh? He used to coach at Stamford. What's his name?

885
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: When I first got Montgomery, Mike Montgomery. Oh man, he

886
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 3: got all my nerves every day. Bro, I was hoping somebody,

887
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: I was hoping he just tripped over one of the

888
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: lines when he was telling people how to play basketball,

889
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: how quickly you know that was How quickly did you

890
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: know it wasn't going to be good?

891
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: How quickly did you know it wasn't going to be

892
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: good with him?

893
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: Because the way he talked to people, you know, like

894
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: he was a professor in basketball. We was all his students,

895
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And you know it's just

896
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: you just dumb. And when I got to go to State,

897
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: I was coming off a bit, so I wasn't wasn't

898
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: nobody listening to him at the end of the season,

899
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: you know, were just like, fuck it, we just gonna play.

900
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 3: Coming into the season, he started coaching, and that's when

901
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: that's just just start becoming a lot of teaching. Like

902
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: you talk too much, you know what I mean, You're

903
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: teaching too much. Ain't nobody here for no damn school,

904
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: bro rolling the balls out? We got a d D.

905
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: And then I would say, uh, Mike Dunleavy, bro, Like

906
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 3: Mike Dunlevy knows a lot about the game, you feel

907
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: them said, but he's so caught up in like him,

908
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I knew we was fucked

909
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: or I knew we were done when we had to

910
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: first game of the season. Right, man, we've been training camp.

911
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: Playing the first game against the Lakers, we playing our style.

912
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: You know, we beat them in the preseason before the Clippers.

913
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: That's a big deal. SA know that that's a big

914
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 3: deal and it giving us confidence to the preseason. Then

915
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: the week before the first game of the season, you know,

916
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: it's like okay, training camp, you start getting your skills,

917
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: sharp shooting, work on what you gonna do. Bro, We

918
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: ran through the triangle three days in a row. For

919
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: three days we practiced a triangle. I said, Coach, what

920
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: are we gonna run in the game. He said, We're

921
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: gonna run the triangle. Shit, they don't know how to

922
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: defend it, I said, I said, Bro, So we would

923
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: practice to other team plays and run they set. So

924
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: with Dudley, you gotta know all the plays. You gotta

925
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: know everybody in the league plays, because they.

926
00:47:59,160 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: All your plays.

927
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: So give me your give me your can't guard me,

928
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore one on one can't guard me. Don't even

929
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: think about it. No matter who you put on me,

930
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: they can't guard me. Give me your top four mm.

931
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 3: Who can't guard who can't guard me or can't be guarded?

932
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: Your top four players?

933
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: Ship bro Man, I mean obviously kobd Well, let's just

934
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: park him, you feel me?

935
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

936
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: In my era, I say, T, Matt, you gotta park him,

937
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Uh, Dwayne Wade, I can't

938
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 3: guard that dude, you know what I mean. Relentless, especially

939
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: when he first got in the league. He was so

940
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: goddamn fast, bro, and could move, and he was.

941
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: Big, you know what I mean.

942
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: He was a big guard like we never really really

943
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: seen though, you know, d way type of like, what

944
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: is this motherfucker? He's a hybrid one two three? Put

945
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: him wherever he goes. Shank Uh I would say, uh,

946
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: who else in our era?

947
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: Uh?

948
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: Nick van Axel, who out of shock?

949
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: Hey, nobody could guard Nick van Exel?

950
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Nick b d was up there, not

951
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: just saying that because you was here, Nick b d ai.

952
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: Ai, Oh my god, bro, not even don't even try it.

953
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: And Steve Smith, Oh, hey, Bro.

954
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: I played with Smitty. I think Smitty had to be

955
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: He was probably like in his late thirties and one

956
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: of us, me and Smitty used to play one on

957
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 3: one before the game. That used to be better than

958
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: the game, you know what I mean. He was in

959
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: pop hosts outside will go I say that Iris and

960
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: Steve Smith, Wade uh Nick Van next.

961
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: What made you think of Smitty right there?

962
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: Because that move he did that would like you knew

963
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: it was coming, but you couldn't stop it.

964
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: Take outline.

965
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, did you hear a story? Did you hear

966
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: a story what Dominique said? Yeah?

967
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: So Dominique recently was on a podcast, I think it

968
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: might have been Knuckleheads Knuckleheads podcast, and he was saying

969
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: that they were playing a game against the Spurs and

970
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: that David Stern passed along a message that he wanted

971
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: the Hawks to not play their guys so that David

972
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: Robinson could win the scoring title over Shaquille O'Neal. If

973
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: you remember, David Robinson had how many points in that

974
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: last game?

975
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: Yes? Seven one?

976
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 2: And you have how many that same.

977
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: Clipbrek I think I had nine.

978
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: So apparently David Stern passed along the message baron for

979
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: the Hawks that spit out.

980
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: So David what ground point shaving?

981
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: You imagine if you were betting on that game, like

982
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: did that like that long ago?

983
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could bet on who's gonna win the score?

984
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: I wonder if Dave Robinson was in on this.

985
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: That's the thing is like everyone. He's the admiral, you

986
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I wonder if he's surprised.

987
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: I think they told him. I think they told him

988
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: we're gonna get you the scoring title tonight and kept it,

989
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 3: you know, kept it like that, and he was probably like,

990
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 3: I ain't doing this, you know. And then it was

991
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: like now you're doing this, Admiral, we need you to

992
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: do this. This for the Spurs, bread bro, We're gonna

993
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 3: go chase that scoring title, MVP.

994
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: I'll watch the game after. I was pissed when I

995
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: got home, so I had my tape, Guy Orlando the tape.

996
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: It was definitely some shenanigans going on that.

997
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: Man, did Atlanta play there guys? Did Atlanta play their guys?

998
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: No, they were playing, Uh, they were playing they were

999
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: they were playing the Clippers.

1000
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah playing Well, it wouldn't have mattered, but no,

1001
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: it would.

1002
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: Back then like Candy no before Candy.

1003
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah that was bad.

1004
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've been I saw that game. I was like, Okay,

1005
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: this is how they want to do me. Yeah, that

1006
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: was bound to happen.

1007
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: Bro. People Shack you had put up like fifty five

1008
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: or something on your birthday and called it out.

1009
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: The night they were scared shack.

1010
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: Why do you think Why do you think David Stern

1011
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 2: wanted to do that?

1012
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: Because I don't want you don't want a young unorthodox

1013
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: guy coming in. Remember me, I play the line, but

1014
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: I go over the line. See what I'm saying. I've

1015
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: always done it my way. See a lot of guys

1016
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: that they're you know, the Baron knows what I'm talking about.

1017
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, just spell chick secrets.

1018
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: But me and ray On a similar I'm gonna do

1019
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: what I want, say what i want.

1020
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: How I want.

1021
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: Controlled sack. This is this shack world, baby, you feel

1022
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: me now?

1023
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: Question for Shacklicious, Shacklicious, excel candies, shacks, best gummies in

1024
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: the world.

1025
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1026
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: The question was you're one of the best guards ever

1027
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: to dunk. In terms of other dunks that get brought

1028
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: up with your Curelnko dunk, which one would you determine

1029
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: as the most shacklicious of all the dunks that you've

1030
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 2: seen that if it gets brought up as maybe better

1031
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: than your dunk, you go, damn, that is a really

1032
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: good one.

1033
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: Uh. Vince Carter in the Olympics over the French that

1034
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: was crazy. Yeah, that was crazy.

1035
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna see over on until morning too

1036
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: because that one was insane.

1037
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 3: That was crazy. Climbed up that was crazy.

1038
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: That was there on a bench at THEE over my head.

1039
00:53:59,320 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: I was like.

1040
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: The one I would also say, uh, the one with

1041
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: Kobe dunked on Vince yard Boro when he went around

1042
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: the back of that was that was crazy.

1043
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: About when Kobe dunked over the White Hour that was

1044
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: one of my that was.

1045
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 3: That was he wade over Anderson v Oh yeah, that

1046
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 3: was crazy. D wade over I think it was maybe

1047
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: Jermaine O'Neill in the playoffs. Still, that was crazy. Paul George.

1048
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: Some crazy Don stro Mile Swift.

1049
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, he's used to catch East to catch Bonnie's.

1050
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 2: Shack on Dudley.

1051
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had to man when he dunked.

1052
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: That was.

1053
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: Don't you sat out? The is deadly?

1054
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: He like a senator, right yeah.

1055
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: I think.

1056
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: See, this is the best part about loving sports is

1057
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: you can just sit around and like be talking about

1058
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: ship and it makes you feel happy, Like I feel

1059
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: like I'm fourteen again thinking about some of this ship happened.

1060
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, but you know what what what

1061
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: we're watching now is not gonna be dumb to talking

1062
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: about you see the step back three, Luca Duncs hit

1063
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: on uh Rudy Gobert like these guys and coach you

1064
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: need to switch it back up.

1065
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: It's all on.

1066
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 5: Why is he so scared of Russell Westbrook? Like you

1067
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 5: see no you think the way Hey bro, he didn't

1068
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 5: know what was happening, dude.

1069
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 2: You know what though of like scariest dude.

1070
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get you gotta get yourself some peace,

1071
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You gotta make space for

1072
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: some peace when a do coming.

1073
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: L a thing where you're like, hey, hemmy, Like I

1074
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: don't know if he's serious or not.

1075
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: Whoever the camera man that.

1076
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 3: He thought he was about to get mopped up sucked up,

1077
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: oh man.

1078
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: One last thing about that is Missoula came out and

1079
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: was like, I wish there was more fighting in the

1080
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 2: n b A and Joe Missoula is turning in one

1081
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: of my favorite coaches, Like he's I love anyone that

1082
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: takes their job that serious. And I don't think we're

1083
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: really We've had like Isaiah Stewart when he was running

1084
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: at Lebron and we're in the like this conversation were

1085
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: happening right now. I wish there was more dunks than threes.

1086
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 2: It's all us going back to a time of the

1087
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: n B A of things that aren't allowed anymore.

1088
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: Was one of them. That's yeah, cool, this is a

1089
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: gentleman's game, Like, Okay, you got to outshoot people to

1090
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: outplay somebody. But if I'm going against a team that

1091
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: has dudes that's going to fill you hard, I want

1092
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: to beat them too, you know what I'm saying, Like

1093
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: like when I was coming up the Knicks, it was

1094
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: going to touch you up. A lot of teams was

1095
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: going to touch you up. That that's just how it

1096
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: was now. Flager on like like a lot of these

1097
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: flakers don't be flakers, And I hate h if you

1098
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: get hitting the head and flacker too. You know how

1099
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: many times I got to hit in the head and

1100
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: they didn't even call it. So I just think as

1101
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: a fan, I know a lot of fans, this is

1102
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: what viewership get tired of looking at the same thing.

1103
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: For example, you know what podcasts or taking over the

1104
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: world because everybody's doing something different. Draymond and Barron is

1105
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: doing way different shit than we're doing stack File and

1106
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: Matt Barres doing way shit like it's just different and

1107
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: it's entertaining. And that's why you got these guys doing

1108
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: these big podcasts deals. Somebody's watching ESPN and all that

1109
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: shit anymore. And people need to wake up, like a

1110
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: lot of people when you do something, but you can't

1111
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: change the essence of what made you successful.

1112
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: I mean, we just need storylines, bro, It's a storylines.

1113
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: Like I feel what Missoula is saying. It's like, dude,

1114
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: shouldn't be like you should be masked. Somebody scoring fifty

1115
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 3: five sixty three, you know, especially in this time and air,

1116
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: and anybody can hit you for forty right back in

1117
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: the day. Like somebody hitting you for forty they a score,

1118
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And if somebody like, who's

1119
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: not a score? If George Lynch is killing and he

1120
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: got twenty four about to go for a career high man,

1121
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: somebody is going to try to hurt him, not hurt him,

1122
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: but heard file him to knock him off his rhythm,

1123
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: and I think that's what it is. It's like, you know,

1124
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: that's why Boston had an easy road shit because they willing.

1125
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: To find Yeah, they in the squad I agree.

1126
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: They coached in their team. In their mentality, they ain't

1127
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: willing to fight. So when it comes to you know,

1128
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: the Threes, the thick man, they gonna fight. They they

1129
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 3: are willing to fight. That's why they go to stay

1130
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: right so good because guess what they willing to fight

1131
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: and dra Gon Draymond is gonna stand in front of that.

1132
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: But Clay ain't no punk, Steph ain't no pump, David

1133
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: West ain't no pump. You know what I mean, Sean

1134
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 3: lennoxon all these dudes is like they willing, I want

1135
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: to fight. We gonna fight too after the game, right,

1136
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: And that's that's the mentality. You gotta hate somebody. You

1137
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: gotta hate somebody. I know they are boys, but you

1138
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: gotta hate them like you know, like back in the day,

1139
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: you know Kobe and McGrady go at it or Vincent

1140
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: McGrady go at it. They their cousins, but they got

1141
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: you steal men. Look, I'm not you know what I mean.

1142
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 3: It's cracking, and it don't be like that.

1143
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: Hate to lose like I got. I'm probably the biggest

1144
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: name people starting that got swept a lot of time.

1145
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: But if you don't think I used to tear my

1146
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: house up and be an asshole to my family and

1147
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: just to everybody because I was upset. That's why I

1148
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: just always kept coming coming back, coming back, coming back

1149
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: Like this, these dudes don't get mad.

1150
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this generation got a chance. So because

1151
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: you know, if they already talked shit, they got social

1152
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: media and got they all no less. I just think, like,

1153
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 3: don't be afraid to take it there, you know what

1154
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Like we we want to see the entertainment.

1155
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 3: We want to be locked in on the games and

1156
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 3: be like, oh, you know what I mean, it's deep,

1157
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: this cracking, you know what I mean, maybe they need

1158
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 3: to take a page out of all the boxers been

1159
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: doing it on social media. But you know it's so

1160
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: much talent that every night, you know, we should be

1161
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 3: watching to see it, like it's these names, these dudes are.

1162
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: It should be matchms. But it's hard for that when

1163
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 3: everybody's switching anybody can you know what I mean? I mean,

1164
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: like some of these coaches got to switch it up,

1165
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 3: and I think the coach that do start thinking about

1166
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 3: switching it up with it, because talent is equal to down.

1167
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: Then Kay Smith made a great point one time he

1168
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: said that he hit me on the way home in

1169
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: the car. Just because you make a lot of money

1170
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: don't mean you're nice like that. The way we set

1171
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 1: up the business, you know, Magic left it to Mike.

1172
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: Mike left it to me. I left it the cold

1173
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: d waye Lebron and it's generated at this now. Making

1174
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: this don't means you nice. However, if you are making this,

1175
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be satisfied. Like if I'm Luca, Luca's still young,

1176
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: he's getting that eighty what's gonna come after that? I

1177
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: want to be the first one hundred and sixty million

1178
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: dollars a year player like you guys should be thinking about,

1179
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: Like some of these guys getting these big contracts and

1180
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: they're laying it down when there's more. That's why the

1181
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: game is suffering. I think so.

1182
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: Baron Shack said, we do it different than you. One

1183
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: thing we do here it is the game sweeping the nation.

1184
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: It is white people sh it or black people ship.

1185
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: I say something that is a random object. What it

1186
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: is We're gonna start off with beards? White people should

1187
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: or black people shop. I mean, look at Barons, this wps.

1188
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: A beard beer.

1189
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, Shack a beard.

1190
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's I gotta say, that's black. That's the

1191
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: black people. Yes, you know what I mean, that's the

1192
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 3: black people. Then you know we took that out.

1193
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of white you know.

1194
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: You know we got famous beer. We made bear the

1195
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: beard Rick ross Man, you go all the way back

1196
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: in the day.

1197
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: Man.

1198
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: You know, look, I'll just say someone from Philadelphia, black

1199
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: man with beards. Just if I saw someone that didn't

1200
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: have a beard, I was like, you're not from here,

1201
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: uh sir thing w ps.

1202
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: It's white people's stuff.

1203
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: Have you ever served?

1204
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: I tried it. I couldn't get on the.

1205
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 3: Board, not at all. I did the bodyboard not. You know,

1206
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: I ain't really, I ain't no person. I can't swim

1207
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: like that.

1208
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1209
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 3: So you about me, man, I ain't gonna be in

1210
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: a Beza, none of that ship. Man. I'm gonna be

1211
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: on man if there's anything cracked. Earthquake. You feel what

1212
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1213
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: You're the kind of guy when an earthquake happens and

1214
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: people react, you're like relax.

1215
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 3: Not man, I'm like, who moving, Like, can we get

1216
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: some of these people out of here? Please? Sh we

1217
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 3: need another one. They can't come quick enough. There's too

1218
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: many people moving in here.

1219
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: I love it. So after an earthquake, you're like, let's

1220
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: see if any houses went on the market. Yeah, yeah,

1221
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: ing moving McDonald's fish file A w P S.

1222
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: I could tell, man, that's that's you know, Jack, I'm just.

1223
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: Saying I know a lot of like I have a

1224
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: lot of black friends that are obsessed.

1225
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 3: That's like, that's like a that's like a luxury black thing.

1226
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1227
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: At McDonald's.

1228
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: As you're saying that, some people, when things are going well,

1229
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: will treat themselves with the fish file at Come.

1230
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: On, man, you know that's like what you ordered. That

1231
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: used to be top of the menu at McDonald's. Yeah,

1232
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: but we used to call white people fish flet really

1233
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1234
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: Growing up?

1235
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: What age were you doing that?

1236
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Just elementary. Somebody said like, yeah, we was joking

1237
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: and the dude said white people look like fish FLEs

1238
01:04:55,080 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 3: And so I don't know ORSU thing.

1239
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: Or insults that make no sense that hit You're like,

1240
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 2: what the fun did they.

1241
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: Stands the brain Brodshani water w ps that's white people.

1242
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: I was going to say, no people ships.

1243
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: Well, y'all made that famous you know what I mean

1244
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: with the commercials and you didn't want to know black people? Hey,

1245
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 3: b y'all did it's dirty outside to get us with

1246
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 3: the fossed water?

1247
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: Water?

1248
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: It's the water they stop, they don't. It's the after

1249
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 3: flow from the water from the south.

1250
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: It's discussing.

1251
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 3: That's what scooters.

1252
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: Aps.

1253
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: That's why that's white people.

1254
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: I think that's all people shack?

1255
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: Are there? Are there any other things in terms of

1256
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: being shacked that you found that you have found out

1257
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: well before everybody else?

1258
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: Of course a lot of things.

1259
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: What's one that the statue of limitations is up that

1260
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: you knew before everybody else?

1261
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: Okay? I told this story before my first Championship run,

1262
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: after the first after the first series, Phil Jackson already

1263
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: had the rooms and the hotels played out. He's like, Hey,

1264
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: when when we play Portland, I want to stay here.

1265
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: When we play what's going to play here? And when

1266
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: we play Indiana in the finals, I want to play here.

1267
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: Like like, I was sitting on the meeting when he

1268
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: already had that done, and I'm like, like, is this

1269
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: part of it? And then as we're going through the season,

1270
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: how the hell do you know this? And then you know.

1271
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: One day I went in a room like, man, I'm

1272
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: not getting no calls, but I don't worry about. We're

1273
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna win the next two games. I don't know what

1274
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: that means, but it happened.

1275
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: The script all right, last one stretching white people should

1276
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: or black people should?

1277
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: Ps?

1278
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: Well, that's all people. Man, I don't stretch everybody.

1279
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't, so it's white people. I used to show

1280
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: up at the eat McDonald's and bust your paper player ass,

1281
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: get to stretch. I don't do no stretching.

1282
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: Like the stre the stretching bars are white people. Thinks

1283
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: there's stretch.

1284
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: To go stretch for an hour?

1285
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 3: Yes, hey, bro, they got things called cuddle bars now,

1286
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 3: and that is definitely the white person. Then you go,

1287
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: you go and people and people cuddle.

1288
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: No, don't.

1289
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 3: That's clear.

1290
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: You get to pick what kind of person or is

1291
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: it like and I'm your colored partner.

1292
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 3: You get to you get you get to pick the spoon.

1293
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: I know who that bar parent?

1294
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: Honest?

1295
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 1: Have you been hell?

1296
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: No? Oh, nobody touching me, bro? But like giving people

1297
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 3: five bro for real, I don't even like giving people

1298
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 3: Adam Adam.

1299
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: Next time we go to l A, I'm actually going there. Oh,

1300
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: I just thought right now.

1301
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: Can you imagine you're like, uh, I got a long

1302
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: shift at the cuddle bar today and then Shack, You're

1303
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: like what they.

1304
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 3: Trying to figure out?

1305
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: Like little woman is holding shacks flag like that.

1306
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: Hold me.

1307
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 2: Is there anything you'd like to talk through during our

1308
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: cuddle session today, mister.

1309
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: Omeo, Ah, you gotta do that all right, mister bad

1310
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 1: Wi fi Man, We appreciate your brother.

1311
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: You know what I want to say really quick because

1312
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: I thought about it. Uh you doing this pile with

1313
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: with Draymond. I believe that you are a force multiplier

1314
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 2: that any room you go into people like damn Man.

1315
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that experience and that's just a testament

1316
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: to who you are as a person.

1317
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: Man. So I appreciate you.

1318
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: See more and more of you going for me.

1319
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah h h h.

1320
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: H h man.

1321
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 3: I would have left high school if I could have

1322
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 3: been a Laker, I'd have left right there, Bro,