WEBVTT - Jets-Bills Game Preview with Chad Pennington (9/8) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.360 Like dab and you're on Jet on the world. You 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:09.600 played to win the game. He's got a jet touchdown Jet. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:21.640 You're listening to the Official Jets podcast, Jets three sixty production. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.360 Welcome inside the Official Jets Podcast Game Preview Ethan Greenberg 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.920 here alongside An, I'm ready for some football and his 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:37.160 football season, Fall season. It's upon us, Jets, Bills, Orchard Park, 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.960 new era, field, green and white. So many storylines, Adams 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.519 and may McCown more than we're gonna touch on them all. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.279 We're gonna get to them. We're gonna get to Buffalo. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.280 We're gonna give an in depth look at their team, 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.960 which is a very different looking team from a season ago. 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.800 Of course, the Jets went to and oh against the 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.560 Bills last year. Week's two and seventeen, very different games 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.800 even between the two of those. Buddy A, this is 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.360 an new year, a new team, a new podcast, a 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.959 new podcast. This is the preview podcast that you're gonna 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.360 be able to listen to on iTunes and silent Cloud 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.760 and get via the website every Friday. And we're gonna 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.120 have different guests throughout the year, but one guest who 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.800 will remain and it will be with us every week 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:25.000 is our quarterback, Champ Pennington, and today our second guest 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.800 is Mr Vick Carucci of the Buffalo News. Yeah, who's 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.199 actually leading us off today. So that's gonna be great. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.600 So we'll speak to him and we'll get to him 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.800 in a couple of minutes. But first off, you're going 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.120 to Buffalo. It's gonna be a great It's gonna be great, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.720 a great trip, a little homecoming for you a But 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.200 we're here to talk football. This is the first time 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.960 since since nineteen sixty the New York Jets will feature 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.120 two rookie safeties in the secondary. Jamal Adams, of course, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.160 in the number six overall pick in Marcus May, the 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.640 second round pick out of Florida, starting right in a 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.400 regular season. How excited are you to find we see 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.560 these two guys play a full game of football. Well, 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.160 it's great. I think we've all been looking forward to 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.480 this since late April when the Jets drafted Adams with 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.600 the sixth overall selection out Alice. You a lot of 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.960 people did not think he was going to be there. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.760 You think about Mike mccangan's first draft pick as general 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.560 manager in New York Jets, most pundits didn't think Leonard 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.679 Williams was gonna be there either, so the Jets were 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.280 so excited to get him. And then in the second round, 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.320 I know a lot of people initially were like, why 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.760 I get a safety? Well, I'll tell you why you 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.639 get another safety because Marcus May was the best player 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:40.160 on their board. Also, Todd Bowles loves to use his 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.880 safeties as a pivotal part in his defenses, so we'll 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.800 get to see how he's gonna use these guys here 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.760 early in week one. But they've both been very impressive, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.880 you know Green's You've talked to them both that they've 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:59.680 exceeded the team's internal expectations, their wise beyond their years. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.160 The will be a few bumps along the way, but 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.919 uh yeah, it's a new era for the Jets at 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.680 new era field. No pun intended there. That was good. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.760 I like that all right. Now let's go to the 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.400 seven one six and bringing Thick Garucci from the Buffalo News. Vick, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.760 thank you so much for joining us. What have your 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:21.639 first impressions bend a head coach Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.679 both in their first year there with the Bills. Yeah, 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.200 my impressions are pretty favorable just in terms of what 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.200 they're saying and laying out as their program. But right 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.280 now that's just talking words. We'll see how it all 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.080 plays out once, once the games are played and once 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.600 the season unfolds. But they both seemed to be well 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.720 organized men and determined men. They came up through the 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:51.160 ranks as as guys who weren't handed anything. They really 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:55.040 earned every bit of what they have in their respective 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.880 paths to these top jobs as head coach and general manager. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:04.480 I think there's a high level of accountability that they 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:10.119 expect from players, and in revamping this roster, it's it's 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.360 pretty reflective of the type of characters that they brought in. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:19.440 You're looking at a team that went from well, from 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:24.599 the fifty three man roster that started last year, only 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.000 twenty two of the players who played in at least 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.279 one game are left, and of those six were draft 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.200 picks in the Doug Whale era as GM. So they 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.720 clearly did a revamping. And as I said, it's its 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:43.560 emphasis on character as opposed to characters, I should say, uh, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:48.839 and and very much an idea that you want discipline, 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.440 you want to be organized, you don't want a team 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.320 that frankly, in in the Rex Ryan couple of years, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.640 um had had committed a lot of penalties and and 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.000 had too many issues with uh too many, too many 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.239 or too few men on the field. You're talking about 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.839 new faces on both offensive defense. Obviously one of the 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.400 positions on the offensive side of the ball is wide receiver. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.040 I mean a lot traded Sammy Watkins, you get Jordan Matthews. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.640 Just what was your impression of the trade, not only 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.400 to ship Watkins to the Rams with them to get 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.040 Jordan Matthews an exchange for Ronald Darby. Yeah, And and 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:30.640 that's led to kind of the perspective that, Okay, this 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.520 is a long term plan that we've heard preached by 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.919 Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean that they're trying to build 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:43.880 sustainable success. So they've accumulated six draft picks for the 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.159 first three rounds of the neck of the two thousand 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:52.880 and eighteen draft, and clearly they feel that that the 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.200 talent that's going to be available in the draft, if 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.120 they if they picked them right, will make this a 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.520 better team for the long haul and in terms of 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:05.000 the short term, and that's where people are Bills fans 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.880 certainly have some discomfort because nobody wants to wait right 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:15.200 and everybody's impatient. So yeah, you know you again, it's 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.720 a very similar, very parallel stories I think going on 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.600 between the Bills and the Jets. But Sammy Watkins was 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.279 easily i think, their best player this side of Lashawn 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.520 McCoy and Ronald Darby was a top cornerback. But uh, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.520 they are starting over with the receiving corps that does 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.640 have a veteran in Jordan Matthews and and also Andre Holmes. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:41.799 But they're very excited about Zay Jones, the the rookie, 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.320 the second round pick that they got from East Carolina. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.120 Uh three D ninety nine career catches in college, so 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.080 they think he can do some things. Uh. Tyrod Taylor 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.719 still there at quarterback, doesn't have the big play guy 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.680 that he had in Watkins, but uh, he feels and 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.920 I've talked with him about it, he feels he can 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.760 make things work with what he does have and Zay 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:08.440 Jones and the others and Charles Clay at tight end, uh, 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.520 Nicoleary at tight end. So it'll be it'll be interesting 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.640 to kind of see how this plays out short term 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.280 with the idea that you know, can you have it 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.720 both ways? Can you can you have short term success 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:26.440 or competitiveness while your emphasis is on being good for 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.320 the long haul. Well, what are your expectations for Tyrod 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.240 Taylor in a very short term in terms of Sunday's 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.960 game against the New York Jets? And then long term 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.480 do you think he has a chance to be the 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.880 Buffalo Bill's quarterback in two thousand and eighteen. And going 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.120 back to the first part of my question is he 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.720 didn't play much in the preseason. He just got cleared, 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.360 uh from concussion protocol, so he'll definitely get to start. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.960 But it's a new offense under Rick Donnison, a West 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.840 Coast attack, and you know it so well, uh covering 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.960 him every day. Is that Tyrod is great on the 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.800 moves on the move, but it seems to me from 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:09.000 the outside struggles throwing the ball over the middle at times. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.160 And then you're working in all these new pieces on 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.800 the outside of receiver. Yeah, you're you're asking a lot 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.240 of a quarterback to have success under those circumstances. As 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.000 you mentioned, new offense. Now, he did have a year 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.240 of exposure to Rick Dennison's thinking and philosophy when they 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.760 were together in Baltimore when Tyrod was backing up Joe 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.640 Flacco and Dennison was there as quarterbacks coach. But that's 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.880 different than you know, being the starting quarterback in Dennison 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.120 of course being the coordinator. So there's a lot of 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.800 newness to work through. And remember Tyrod was also asked 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.880 to take and had to take basically a ten million 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.319 dollar pay cut over a couple of years to remain 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.840 with the Bills when the market just didn't allow for 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.760 him to go elsewhere. If that were going to be 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:59.520 the case, and that might have been the case had 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.680 another team stepped up, because it didn't look like Buffalo 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.760 was going to keep him at the rate he was, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.839 you know, at the rate of his salary that he 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.120 had signed in August of two thousand sixteen. So you 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.600 got that kind of playing out in the background. And 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.920 Tyrod has told me that, you know, he doesn't know 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.199 what he did to deserve the cut, because his numbers 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:22.520 effectively were very similar in in sixteen than they were 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.200 in fifteen. The short answer might be, well, you know, 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.360 they wanted you to have better numbers, uh, from from 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.560 fifteen to sixteen, But um, yeah, I think it's going 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.280 to be a challenge, and I think for the short 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.079 term for this game Sunday, I think the focus is 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.040 going to be on seeing how he can work that 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.480 middle of the field because that's what the West Coast 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:47.000 attack UH calls for. And obviously he's gonna have an 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.880 eye on those two rookie safeties Jamal Adams and Marcus 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.880 May to see what kind of success they can have 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.880 challenging them with the tight ends and and with Andre Holmes, 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.880 for instance, a bigger receive. Ever's a Jones Uh, certainly 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.800 Jordan Matthews a big guy too, who's coming off of, 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.240 by the way, a chip fracture, the stern of it 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.600 he suffered fifteen minutes into his first practice with the Bills. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.839 So I think I think the idea would be to 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.719 go after those rookie safeties as much as they can. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.160 So not only do the Bills have a new offensive coordinator, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.000 but on defense with Leslie Fraser taking the reins this year, 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:31.080 what are some of the biggest systematic differences from last year? Oh? Huge, um, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.760 As you guys well know, the Rex Ryan scheme, the 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:39.599 three four base with a lot of substitution sub packages, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:44.559 blitzing and and all the are creating pressure or simulated pressure. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:50.040 All those components are gone basically and replaced by a 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.840 four three based scheme that Leslie Fraser and Sean McDermott favor, 0:10:55.280 --> 0:11:00.200 and also UH require a lot of zone play out 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.720 of coverage, a lot of his own coverage. That is 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.439 asking the secondary to do different things. And you know, 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.160 if you're asking for what would make what's going to 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.000 look very different for the Bills. The most dramatic change 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:15.360 is the entire secondary. And UH we asked Leslie Frasier 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.839 about this the other day. He's been in this league 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.480 nineteen years of coaching UH and doesn't remember when he's 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.319 come into a season with a secondary where there was 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.520 no carryover, like everybody came from somewhere else. So you 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.440 have the two corners UH in trade Avious White, the 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.079 first round draft pick from l s U. You have e. J. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.360 Gaines that came over from the Rams as part of 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.800 the Sammy Watkins trade. There your corners, and then it's 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.040 safety with Micah Hyde coming in as a free agent 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.480 from the Packers and Jordan Ployer free agent from the Browns. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.360 Um getting these four guys to communicate to be on 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.840 the same page. So that will be a challenge I 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.800 think for for the Bills secondary and for Leslie Fraser 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.960 and those defensive assists, just to keep everybody on the 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.280 same page. Someone on offense that's clearly a staple here 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.280 is Lashawn McCoy. Very talented and you know, one of 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.240 the best backs both receiving and on the ground. So 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.560 how does his skill set translate into this Rick Dennis 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.520 and offense. That's a great question, and I'm just gonna 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.719 follow up here, Vic. I think this is the key 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.920 to the game because for the Jets, they have to 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:27.720 maintain their lanes and integrity, the Russian integrity, not not 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.840 only against Tyrod Taylor, but McCoy. Yeah, you know you 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.560 said key to the game, out, Let's take a key 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.960 to the season. Key to everything the Bills do is 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:43.720 Lashawn McCoy. Yesterday or on what day was at Wednesday, um, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.520 Sean McDermott made the comment that you know, if he 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.240 has to give this guy, you know, run him every 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.120 single player, put the ball in his hands every single play, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.360 he'll do it because he knows how much he means 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.520 McCoy means to the offense. I don't know that that's 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.480 a smart thing necessarily to do, or that he really 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.959 means that he would do that with a twenty nine 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.240 year old back, because you can get the guy hurt 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.360 or wear him down pretty quickly. But I do think 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.400 that everything does flow through him. As far as this offense, 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.040 and you mentioned the Dennison scheme, it's a you know, 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.920 it's a a wide zone type of scheme that very 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.079 much think of what Mike Shanahan uh did as a 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.640 as a coach in this league, certainly his son Kyle, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.240 and what he brought to the Falcons and there it's 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.160 kind of that same lineage of offensive thinking where you're 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.320 stretching the defense and you're trying to get a guy 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.400 to of course find those cutback lanes. And Lashawn McCoy 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.200 is is really good at that. He's he's he excels 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.080 at that. He's had an amazing camp. He from the 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.280 first practice, you saw him with the ball in his 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.640 hand and he said, wow, I mean, that's that's a guy. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.160 That's an elite. That's what an elite player looks like. Now, 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.760 I'll add that maybe part of the reason he looks 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.160 so elite in a Bill's practice is because I don't 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.439 know that there was anyone else on the team physically 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.600 who had talent that came close to that, So he's 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:12.080 probably made to look even better when he's not surrounded 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.960 by the greatest amount of I'm talking elite edge talent. Uh. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.720 The offensive line, though it has been strong, and this 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.560 is a team that's led the league in rushing the 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.560 past couple of years. That is because of McCoy, but 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.560 it's also because of Tyrod Taylor's running as well, And 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.600 I think that's another component to think about when you're 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.920 asking me how the Jets, you know, how how they 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.240 can maybe survive that matchup if you will, of the 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:42.200 two running games from the From the Bill standpoint, it's 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.200 helping to set up the run with the tailor rushing 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.600 dimension that can help soften things up perhaps or keep 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.400 this defense off balance. But I think the simple game 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.800 plan that the Jets and other teams will follow defensively 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:00.320 is load that box and dare Tyrod t Or to 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.720 try to beat them throwing the football, especially when he 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.600 doesn't have a Sami Watkins to throw too. All right, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:11.320 So every thing, as far as the Buffalo offense is concerned, 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.400 runs through Shady but everything in the seven one six 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:19.720 runs through Vic Carucci. It's always a treat for us 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.560 to have you on. You know, I grew up in 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.200 Orchard Park read you when I was a kid growing up, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.480 and uh you continue to do tremendous work and it's 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.400 uh honored to have you on a official Jets podcast 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.160 and we look forward to seeing you at New Era 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.960 Field as the Jets celebrate a new era with their 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.400 two rookie safety starting against Tyrod Teller and company. Well, I, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.760 first of all, thank you for the kind words. And 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:46.640 the good thing that makes me feel good and not 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.120 old is I know that you're only fifteen years old now, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.120 so you know when you were growing up that long 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.440 well sad man. Otherwise I'm I'm the real old guy 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.560 that you read when you were a kid. But I 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.160 will say this, yeah, it's it's exciting, I think for 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.000 all those who sort of look at this game and say, Okay, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.960 these are two teams that are really thinking about something 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.320 other than this year long term, so it could not 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.400 necessarily be so pretty in the short term. And that's 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.200 the common view we we all know that the rest 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.280 of the nation has and maybe the fan basis of 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:22.280 the respective teams. But I think it's exciting opening day. Uh. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.760 It's supposed to be a beautiful, beautiful day in Orchard Park, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.520 your hometown. And I think the other part of this 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.760 is the newness, you know, Like you said, how will 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.760 those rookie safeties do for the Jets? How will the 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.560 rookie corner do for the Buffalo Bills? And and how 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.480 is it all gonna look when when a lot of 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:45.160 these spaces that people don't necessarily recognize wearing uniforms from 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.840 both of the teams show up. So, like you, guys, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.400 I'm looking forward to it. We'll see this weekend, all right. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.600 See you. Green is always great here and from the Garugie. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.360 You know how much respect I have for him. Uh. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.680 I guess that I was reading him when I was 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.119 a little boy, way before your internet days are, way 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.720 before you were at New House. But one stands out 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.959 to you as far as what he just said there offensively, 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.800 you know where the ball is going to go to 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:19.080 earl in offense? Well, yeah, it's Lashawn McCoy, Shady McCoy. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.760 And I thought it was really interesting that he he said, 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:23.760 you said it was a key to the game, and 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.600 he said, no, no, No No, it's a key to the 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.159 season and for a team that has a lot of 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.600 new faces on both sides of the ball, especially on 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.320 the offensive side. He's one of the staples of the offense. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.919 This is a great test for the Jets rush defense 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.600 and they have to be aware where he he is. 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.520 Also when he's coming out of the backfield as a receiver. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.439 I think the safeties could play a pivotal role in 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.800 terms of run support as well. All right, let's go 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.840 down to Kentucky. You bring in our quarterback chair Pennyton. 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:57.480 Who's uh returning to the Official Jets podcast, Eric Gallen 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.159 here in studio with Ethan Greenberg. Of course, Chad, what 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.280 do you think is going on in the mind of 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.879 Josh McCown thirty eight years old? He is the only 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.680 quarterback remaining from the two thousand two draft and will 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:16.560 start Sunday in Western New York against the Buffalo Bills. Well, Eric, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.200 I think he's excited at number one, and I think, um, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:24.800 he is the most important acquisition that the Jets we're 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:29.000 able to acquire this off season because he's going to 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.439 provide some stability um with the team that there seems 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.400 to be a lot of instability, especially from a fans perspective, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.399 not necessarily from a coach's perspective or organization perspective, but 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:45.440 from a fans perspective. UM, you can be assured that 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.639 that Josh is on to provide stability better in leadership 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.680 really throughout the team, not just on the offensive side, 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.240 but throughout the team. And so I've been in that situation. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.480 I've gone to a team that was one of fifteen 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.080 needed better in leadership, and so this is a great opportunity. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.720 And talking with Johnston this offseason, I think he's really excited. 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:09.719 He understands specifically what his role is on the Jets, 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.080 and if there's anybody that can fulfill that role, understand 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.879 his role and stay within that role, it would be 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.920 johnsh McCown. So obviously in the preseason, you don't play 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.879 all your cards. What are you expecting from this Jets 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.960 offense in Week one of the NFL season? A lot 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.919 of movie parts yet, well, there's no doubt, but you 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:34.399 know everything in Week one, it's such a week that 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.680 you're trying to get a feel for who you are, Uh, 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:41.399 you know what guys can do certain things. Um, even 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.040 with the experience of veteran teams, they're still trying to 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.000 get a feel for who they are and established their identity. 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:53.000 And so that first week across the board in the NFL, uh, 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.399 it just kind of goes up and down. It's it's 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:57.800 the roller coaster and you're trying to feel your way 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.600 through and the upimate goal and week wanted to get 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:05.919 to the fourth quarter barring any disasters, and then have 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.280 a chance to win and eat out a win. And 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.639 when I look at this week one match out between 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.960 the Jets and the Bills, this game can go either way. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.119 And if you're looking for the Jet to squeak out 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.840 a few wins this year, this's got to be one 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.600 of them right off the bat where they can get 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.240 off to a good start. Um the Jets can feel 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.080 good about their progress they've made in training camp. This 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.560 is a game that they've got to cener Chad. How 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.760 difficult is it to prepare for a team? Offensively speaking 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.879 for the Bills that have a new offensive coordinator and 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.560 Rick Dennison to have a new identity with head coach 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.520 Sean McDermott. Obviously he's more of a defensive mind, but 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.399 as a quarterback and as an offense in general, What 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.000 do you do differently to prepare for a team that 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.199 one has no game film of two thousands seventeen and 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:56.320 secondly has an entire new offense. Well, you have to 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.960 do a lot of research. You have to research the 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.000 background of a quarter menasure, you have to look at 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:05.240 other teams that he has worked with before, who got 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.320 their concepts, and so you kind of have to piece 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.800 your game plan together. You certainly take a look at 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:16.560 preseasons to get a seal for individual players and individual 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.640 skill sets. But then you've got to piece your your 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:24.080 game film and your research together. Uh, to look at 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.600 concepts and see what concepts is the coordinator like what 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.119 concepts of Buffalo been successful with in the past, based 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.760 upon the players that are still there, try to piece 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:41.080 that together. Knowing coach bowls um in the defensive staff, um, 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.959 they're still gonna open it up and and do some 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:47.120 things to the pressure. They don't believe in sitting back 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.760 and waiting to see. I think they feel like we're 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:53.440 gonna take the established the tempo and take our mindset 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.359 to the offense. So you're still going to see some 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.240 of that, which is a good thing. And Week one 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.359 typically you want to make or that everything you're doing 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.000 does not put yourself in a situation where you're playing 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:08.639 unsound or you give up a big play just because 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.600 of miscommunication or things like that. It is. It is 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.440 strictly a week where you're trying to give a feel 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.400 for who you are, what you can handle, and you're 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.080 trying to get to that fourth quarter saying, okay, now 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:23.080 let's go. We've got three quarters here, We've made our adjustments, 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.040 now let's still put the dagger in them. In terms 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.480 of Shady McCoy, Chad, I know it's going to take 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:34.760 a unit's effort, a unit's excellent effort to contain him. 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.280 But who specifically you think has to step up in 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.800 terms of the Jets run defense, Well, I think it's twofold. 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.360 I think number one. From a defensive line standpoint, where 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:50.359 you space a running back like Losa McCoys, who was 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:54.640 so versatile and dynamic with his feet, the biggest thing 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.040 you have to do from a defensive line standpoint is 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:58.880