WEBVTT - Does Representation Give Black Americans Real Power? | Cite Your Source 0:00:00.630 --> 0:00:03.870 Welcome home, NLP fam. This is Angela Rye. You're about 0:00:03.890 --> 0:00:06.330 to hear an episode of Cite Your Source, a show 0:00:06.390 --> 0:00:09.890 produced and presented by Native Lamb Pod. On Cite Your Source, 0:00:09.930 --> 0:00:13.470 we fact-check the headlines and debunk viral news. We say 0:00:13.750 --> 0:00:16.910 we are your two-step verification on all the BS. New 0:00:16.980 --> 0:00:20.680 episodes drop Wednesday at 9 p.m. Eastern on Cite Your 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.940 Source's YouTube channel. If you're listening and wondering what our 0:00:23.980 --> 0:00:26.380 sources are, I encourage you to check out the video 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.920 where we cite our sources in real time and we 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.220 have our sources in show notes. Thank you. Enjoy the episode. 0:00:35.740 --> 0:00:38.290 Welcome to Psych Your Source. I'm your host, Angela Rye. 0:00:38.330 --> 0:00:41.750 We are your two-step verification on all the BS. The 0:00:41.790 --> 0:00:45.690 power of the people shaped this nation. From fighting for 0:00:45.770 --> 0:00:51.260 abolition to boycotts for integration, we marched across bridges, challenged segregation, 0:00:51.420 --> 0:00:55.660 registered voters, and today we have more Black representation in 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.600 Congress and in governors' mansions than in any time in history. 0:01:00.140 --> 0:01:04.289 But here's the question. How does political power translate into 0:01:04.390 --> 0:01:07.910 people power? To help us answer that question and more, 0:01:08.330 --> 0:01:12.750 we have 2026 Democratic nominee for the United States Senate 0:01:13.010 --> 0:01:16.480 who garnered nearly 4 million votes in last week's election. 0:01:17.100 --> 0:01:38.170 Former Florida State Representative Angie Nixon. Angie, I want to 0:01:38.230 --> 0:01:43.860 say on behalf of Black America, progressive America, in between America, 0:01:45.020 --> 0:01:48.040 folks on the other side of this land, across the pond, 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:48.840 thank you. 0:01:48.860 --> 0:01:50.220 For sure. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.720 And I'm saying thank you because you showed us that 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.270 when the people are behind you, there is a pathway. 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:56.670 Yeah. 0:01:56.830 --> 0:01:58.950 I know it probably doesn't feel like that right now. 0:01:59.010 --> 0:02:01.910 And I want to get to something that I think 0:02:01.930 --> 0:02:05.860 is quite Clearly, the elephant in the room, Ashley Moody 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.459 raised a little over $ 14 million in her Senate race. 0:02:09.500 --> 0:02:12.690 You raised a little over $ 11 million. Do you believe 0:02:12.750 --> 0:02:17.030 right now that people power can beat monetary power, the 0:02:17.070 --> 0:02:20.590 financial impacts that money has in politics? 0:02:20.690 --> 0:02:22.830 Yeah, I absolutely do. I mean, we did it in 0:02:22.870 --> 0:02:27.110 the primary. We would have done it in the general 0:02:27.450 --> 0:02:28.910 if we were able. 0:02:29.330 --> 0:02:31.750 You know, I started a little late. I started in 0:02:31.810 --> 0:02:33.120 January officially. 0:02:34.139 --> 0:02:37.320 And I mean, I just could not get over the 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.520 hump though, because that money, yes, she raised that amount 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:46.060 of money in her direct campaign, but there was over, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.520 I want to say about $ 25 million spent on me 0:02:49.700 --> 0:02:50.720 in attack ads. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.260 And that's through something that we know as independent expenditures. 0:02:54.300 --> 0:02:56.290 Those are those outsized huge packs. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:57.230 And things like that. 0:02:57.290 --> 0:02:57.590 Yes. 0:02:57.730 --> 0:03:01.470 And so it was tough. It was a tough, hill 0:03:01.510 --> 0:03:04.410 to climb. There were a few things that we could 0:03:04.450 --> 0:03:07.150 have done differently, but I'm really proud of the race 0:03:07.169 --> 0:03:10.940 that we ran. I mean, when we looked at the numbers, 0:03:11.810 --> 0:03:14.940 Democratic turnout was higher than Republican turnout as far as 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:19.720 the percentages, but there is a 1.5 million gap between 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.340 Republicans and Democrats. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.540 And so there was really no making up for that. 0:03:26.190 --> 0:03:29.060 And so we have to really work to decrease that 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.899 number and get our voter registration numbers up and then 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:33.780 we'll be more. 0:03:33.660 --> 0:03:35.600 Viable for statewide races. 0:03:35.660 --> 0:03:38.840 But I'm proud that we were able to help drive 0:03:38.900 --> 0:03:43.170 turnout and flips. some state house seats. We got out 0:03:43.210 --> 0:03:47.150 of the super minority, which is, I'm excited because the 0:03:47.270 --> 0:03:51.350 incoming speaker of the Florida House formerly reprimanded me for, 0:03:51.780 --> 0:03:53.940 you know, taking out a pink bullhorn when they were 0:03:54.060 --> 0:03:58.600 illegally and unconstitutionally drawing maps. And so now I broke 0:03:58.660 --> 0:04:01.860 up his super majority. And so I'm happy about that. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.280 The audience is too, sounds right. 0:04:04.980 --> 0:04:07.980 And we were also able to hold on to the 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.620 four seats that they tried to take for congressional seats 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.660 in addition to helping to flip one. And I know 0:04:14.690 --> 0:04:18.049 that it's because we saw an increase in turnout for 0:04:18.130 --> 0:04:23.770 young people as well as black people. And before I ran, 0:04:23.790 --> 0:04:27.589 I stated to quite a few people that it was 0:04:27.630 --> 0:04:30.310 my goal to win this race, but it would also 0:04:30.370 --> 0:04:32.670 be a win if I was able to drive up 0:04:32.730 --> 0:04:34.969 turnout and to flip some seats. 0:04:35.470 --> 0:04:37.720 And I accomplished that. And so I'm happy about that. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:38.040 Yeah. 0:04:38.339 --> 0:04:40.640 And that is a win. And you also had another 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.900 major feat in the primary. I remember all the rhetoric 0:04:44.940 --> 0:04:48.489 that there was no way you could win against Alex Vindman. 0:04:48.510 --> 0:04:51.690 You beat a candidate who raised, to this point, about 0:04:51.730 --> 0:04:55.599 money in politics. He raised 16 times. more than you 0:04:55.660 --> 0:04:59.820 in the primary, you still beat him significantly. And so 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.320 I want to just park there for a moment because 0:05:03.690 --> 0:05:07.730 on one hand, there's this voter turnout gap in Florida. 0:05:07.950 --> 0:05:10.570 There's a voter registration gap in Florida to the tune 0:05:10.610 --> 0:05:13.270 of over a million, as you said, with Republican voters 0:05:13.310 --> 0:05:17.440 versus Democrats. You didn't see that same reality in the primary. 0:05:17.500 --> 0:05:19.880 What do you think has to shift in general elections 0:05:19.940 --> 0:05:23.140 beyond that? turnout and beyond money and politics? Are those 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:24.460 the two largest hurdles? 0:05:24.660 --> 0:05:26.740 I mean, those are the two largest hurdles. 0:05:27.620 --> 0:05:31.229 And I would say that we cannot allow leadership to 0:05:31.290 --> 0:05:36.310 squander this opportunity to deliver for working families across the country. 0:05:37.330 --> 0:05:43.550 They have to go hardcore in regards to you know, healthcare. 0:05:43.830 --> 0:05:45.430 And you say leadership, though, who are you talking? 0:05:45.450 --> 0:05:49.010 I would say, you know, whoever becomes the leader of 0:05:49.089 --> 0:05:54.330 the House and the Senate. And they have to have 0:05:54.370 --> 0:06:02.600 an aggressive agenda to help working families. This was, people 0:06:02.980 --> 0:06:06.080 turned out because they were really upset at Trump and 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:06.500 just the. 0:06:06.500 --> 0:06:07.779 Failure of what happened. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.420 But then also, They turned out because they were motivated 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.420 by some some candidates as well. And so I just 0:06:14.540 --> 0:06:18.870 don't want in this soon to be post era of Trump, 0:06:20.410 --> 0:06:22.070 because I mean, I feel like this is his lame 0:06:22.089 --> 0:06:24.450 duck session. These last two years are kind of going 0:06:24.470 --> 0:06:26.859 to be just kind of lame duck for him since 0:06:26.890 --> 0:06:30.400 he does not have the House or the Senate. We 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.180 need to have, you know, some accountability in place like that. 0:06:35.020 --> 0:06:36.960 I know there were some folks who said, no, we 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.610 shouldn't go after him for all the things that he's done. 0:06:39.700 --> 0:06:44.089 And people want accountability and they want relief. And so 0:06:44.210 --> 0:06:44.550 I am. 0:06:44.570 --> 0:06:50.230 Hoping that leadership walks and chews gum at the same 0:06:50.290 --> 0:06:51.610 time in regards to that. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.700 You brought up leadership, and this is, I'm just going 0:06:54.740 --> 0:06:56.340 to be honest, it may be my sticking point more 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.200 than yours. But when I think about the journey that 0:07:00.260 --> 0:07:05.490 you had, specifically with Chuck Schumer and the DSCC, which 0:07:05.570 --> 0:07:09.850 is run by Kirsten Gillibrand, my question is, what do 0:07:09.890 --> 0:07:12.110 you think they need to change to get races like 0:07:12.150 --> 0:07:13.670 yours right in the future? 0:07:13.770 --> 0:07:15.430 They need to invest in the South. They need to 0:07:15.470 --> 0:07:16.450 invest in Black people. 0:07:16.490 --> 0:07:20.970 There were absolutely no Black candidates on the flip list, 0:07:21.590 --> 0:07:22.270 like none. 0:07:23.950 --> 0:07:27.180 And they invested in our races a little too late. 0:07:28.750 --> 0:07:30.500 When did you see investment come to your race? 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.640 More so in October. 0:07:32.660 --> 0:07:36.360 And it would have been great to see that in September. 0:07:36.380 --> 0:07:41.500 If Scott Colon, if he would have gotten a million 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.040 dollars earlier on, this wouldn't have been an issue. 0:07:45.460 --> 0:07:47.720 If Jamie Davis in Louisiana. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:48.920 would. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.990 Have gotten a million dollars, period. He probably would have won. 0:07:53.350 --> 0:07:56.290 If I would have gotten like five million early on, 0:07:56.390 --> 0:07:57.870 that would have been super helpful. 0:07:57.890 --> 0:08:00.240 How much did they end up investing in your room? 0:08:00.700 --> 0:08:04.360 I'm not totally sure. I know like hard money that 0:08:04.420 --> 0:08:06.820 moved over that I saw, I think it was around 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.040 Like from the DSCC, I think it was around like 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.950 $ 50, 000 or $ 60, 000. 0:08:12.790 --> 0:08:14.710 Do not quote me on that. 0:08:14.710 --> 0:08:16.330 $ 50, 000 or $ 60, 000. Do not quote me on that. 0:08:16.370 --> 0:08:18.850 But I think that's what it was, like the hard 0:08:18.910 --> 0:08:22.490 money that we saw moved. And that was towards the end, 0:08:23.110 --> 0:08:24.170 the last week or so. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.160 Angie, I'm sorry, that's criminal. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.760 But let me let me make sure because, you know, 0:08:28.780 --> 0:08:32.500 I was just running the race. But it's not what 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:32.959 we needed. 0:08:33.020 --> 0:08:34.160 We needed way more. 0:08:34.250 --> 0:08:37.630 And I know, you know, Chuck Schumer and Senator Senator 0:08:37.650 --> 0:08:39.229 Schumer and Senator Senator. 0:08:38.929 --> 0:08:41.390 Gillibrand, they were working to try to raise money. 0:08:41.870 --> 0:08:43.370 But it would have been great if we would have 0:08:43.410 --> 0:08:50.700 gotten like some real major investments early on. But, yeah, 0:08:50.860 --> 0:08:54.480 I just if they would invest in the South, in 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:55.959 the black South. 0:08:55.660 --> 0:08:58.460 Early on, like we would have we would have flipped seats. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:04.550 And I know I spoke with Representative Pearson yesterday and, 0:09:04.630 --> 0:09:06.890 you know, he had to get he had to go 0:09:06.910 --> 0:09:07.370 to D.C. 0:09:07.390 --> 0:09:08.429 To be put on the list. 0:09:08.470 --> 0:09:08.590 Yeah. 0:09:09.420 --> 0:09:12.880 And he came close too. And I mean, we could 0:09:12.900 --> 0:09:13.939 have won these seats. 0:09:14.059 --> 0:09:16.260 And that's what's just frustrating about it. Yeah. 0:09:16.500 --> 0:09:17.500 I just want to check because. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me text my team. 0:09:20.100 --> 0:09:23.500 Yeah. Let me see if I can check too. 0:09:23.540 --> 0:09:27.080 This is hard dollars that moved over. 0:09:27.100 --> 0:09:27.520 I know. 0:09:28.380 --> 0:09:30.660 How much money was given to me from the DSCC? 0:09:30.700 --> 0:09:34.120 Quick question for you. Do you know how much was 0:09:34.540 --> 0:09:39.660 raised or given to Angie Nixon, hard dollars from DSCC? OK, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:40.199 thank you. 0:09:40.900 --> 0:09:42.880 So, yeah, this is what I got from my it 0:09:42.940 --> 0:09:47.360 was it was 62 from DS around 14, five from 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.470 the virtual fundraiser Schumer hosted and five from his pact. 0:09:51.300 --> 0:09:54.809 So, yeah. 0:09:55.010 --> 0:09:57.569 I want to go to the audience because they were 0:09:58.190 --> 0:10:01.010 growling and grumbling as loud as I was. when we 0:10:01.050 --> 0:10:04.290 heard this number. And I'm just curious, what was the response? 0:10:04.710 --> 0:10:06.790 Was it the amount or was there something else? 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:11.720 For me, it's the amount, Auntie, because every day I 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.260 can't tell you how many texts we'd get from the 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:19.090 DSCC and phone calls asking for money. And it the 0:10:19.150 --> 0:10:22.349 donations that keep going. And I would sometimes talk to 0:10:22.370 --> 0:10:24.540 the people on the phone and said, I just gave money. 0:10:24.580 --> 0:10:26.860 Like you don't have any record of this. And there's 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.360 so much money that I know people are giving because 0:10:29.380 --> 0:10:31.300 we talk about it. And then for you to get 0:10:31.380 --> 0:10:33.160 so little of it, I would have rather sent that 0:10:33.179 --> 0:10:36.300 money directly to you as opposed to sending it to 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.189 the DSCC if you weren't getting it. 0:10:38.950 --> 0:10:42.810 Well, I want you to reserve comment on that. I 0:10:42.830 --> 0:10:44.850 will do all the commenting there. But what I do 0:10:44.890 --> 0:10:48.580 want to do is go to what some would call 0:10:48.620 --> 0:10:53.069 your concession speech. But really, I think it was a 0:10:53.110 --> 0:10:55.370 kind of a victory speech. So there's a particular line 0:10:55.410 --> 0:10:57.050 I want to play. Let's roll that clip. 0:10:57.890 --> 0:10:59.630 The war is not over. 0:10:59.630 --> 0:11:02.240 2028 is around the corner. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:28.460 So Ashley Moody, you better get it right. Because we're 0:11:28.500 --> 0:11:29.300 coming for you. 0:11:31.570 --> 0:11:37.110 OK, so you know the million. You need to take 0:11:37.150 --> 0:11:39.230 this audience with you. They love you way more than 0:11:39.250 --> 0:11:40.870 they've ever loved me. I love it for you. 0:11:41.110 --> 0:11:42.130 I appreciate y'all. 0:11:42.309 --> 0:11:47.140 Here's my question. Does that? an announcement for 2028. 0:11:47.140 --> 0:11:51.910 That is an announcement that I am organizing like I've 0:11:51.950 --> 0:11:55.190 never organized before, that I started a PAC called the 0:11:55.230 --> 0:11:58.730 Never Scared PAC. Folks should go visit it, never scared.org. 0:11:59.210 --> 0:12:02.859 And that we are going to work to, you know, build, uh, 0:12:03.300 --> 0:12:07.260 infrastructure and build power, political power all across the state 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.110 of Florida and also just the Deep South in general. 0:12:10.809 --> 0:12:14.370 But I am not making any plans right now to 0:12:14.450 --> 0:12:17.430 run or to not run. I really want to focus 0:12:17.510 --> 0:12:21.599 our efforts on you know, engaging, keeping those folks engaged 0:12:21.660 --> 0:12:25.940 that came out to volunteer on our campaigns and who 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.560 donated on our campaigns. 0:12:27.780 --> 0:12:29.460 I'm going to push back on you. You said that 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.990 you waited too late to announce last time. Why not 0:12:33.050 --> 0:12:35.410 announce right now? I think this whole audience wants to 0:12:35.450 --> 0:12:37.890 go with you to Florida so that they can vote 0:12:37.929 --> 0:12:38.610 for you. 0:12:38.710 --> 0:12:42.190 You know, running for office is a lot. 0:12:42.290 --> 0:12:42.949 It is. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:44.460 It is a lot. 0:12:44.660 --> 0:12:48.160 And though I ran... I ran four times before that. 0:12:48.179 --> 0:12:50.200 I actually lost my first race when I ran for 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:55.470 city council. But I missed my six-year-old's birthday. And I 0:12:55.540 --> 0:13:01.210 missed tons of birthdays for my first baby, who's now 19. And, 0:13:01.270 --> 0:13:04.890 you know, it takes a toll. And so I just 0:13:04.950 --> 0:13:06.929 need some time to. 0:13:06.790 --> 0:13:10.830 Process, to grieve this loss, to. 0:13:11.410 --> 0:13:13.689 Have conversations with the community. At the end of the day, 0:13:13.730 --> 0:13:16.069 it's always what the community wants for me. I don't 0:13:16.110 --> 0:13:18.790 make the decision myself. They were the reason that I 0:13:18.809 --> 0:13:21.250 decided to run in this race in the first place. 0:13:21.270 --> 0:13:23.330 They told me what they wanted to do. I actually 0:13:23.390 --> 0:13:26.030 went on a statewide listening tour. And so I'll go 0:13:26.110 --> 0:13:28.130 on another one to see what they want me to do. 0:13:28.250 --> 0:13:31.420 But I'm not making any decisions right now. I'm just 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.120 going to organize the hell out of my state. 0:13:33.429 --> 0:13:35.430 Well, let me just do a quick focus group poll 0:13:35.450 --> 0:13:38.569 because it might be slightly biased, but let me just ask, 0:13:38.910 --> 0:13:41.650 is anybody in the audience think Angie should run in 0:13:41.650 --> 0:13:50.590 2028 against Ashley? And they're yelling. But I think it's 0:13:50.610 --> 0:13:52.729 important for you to hear because when you come out 0:13:52.770 --> 0:13:55.490 on the other side of a race like that, you know, 0:13:55.510 --> 0:13:58.650 the power of the people clearly behind you, but the 0:13:58.690 --> 0:14:02.319 power of campaign finance, not so much. people within your 0:14:02.380 --> 0:14:05.340 own party doubting if you can do it. You know, 0:14:05.380 --> 0:14:06.960 a label assigned to you, which I want to get 0:14:06.980 --> 0:14:12.620 to next, around socialism, particularly in Cuban Miami, parts of 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.760 Florida that are super opposed to socialism and what it 0:14:15.820 --> 0:14:18.620 means to their governments where they come from. Do you 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:24.350 have any regrets being attached to DSA so much that 0:14:24.490 --> 0:14:26.010 some folks couldn't get past that? 0:14:26.250 --> 0:14:29.430 You know, I have no regrets whatsoever. I just wish 0:14:29.470 --> 0:14:33.090 that I would have... just ran a little harder. And 0:14:33.270 --> 0:14:36.110 like I said, come out a little earlier. Look, people 0:14:36.150 --> 0:14:39.170 wondered why I joined the organization. And as I told 0:14:39.210 --> 0:14:43.710 a few folks, during the government shutdown, when I was 0:14:44.250 --> 0:14:47.630 collecting donations as far as food and that type of 0:14:47.670 --> 0:14:52.030 stuff to provide to folks who are furloughed or who 0:14:52.050 --> 0:14:55.000 lost their SNAP benefits, the people that were on the 0:14:55.030 --> 0:14:56.080 ground helping me were. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:56.740 Members of DSA. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:56.940 Yeah. 0:14:57.740 --> 0:15:01.590 When the Black Lives Matter protests and everything that were 0:15:01.630 --> 0:15:05.230 happening was happening, the people that were on the front 0:15:05.270 --> 0:15:08.830 lines as well with us and the Black organizations like 0:15:08.890 --> 0:15:12.940 J-CAC and others or DSA. And so these are the 0:15:13.100 --> 0:15:16.800 organizations that have been putting in the work, fighting to 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:23.210 increase access to quality health care, fighting to ensure people 0:15:23.250 --> 0:15:25.500 had a roof over their head, pushing back against ICE. 0:15:25.710 --> 0:15:29.770 It's been those organizations. And, you know, I joined WFP. 0:15:30.250 --> 0:15:33.110 I joined DSA. I became a lifetime member of the 0:15:33.150 --> 0:15:36.420 Working Families Party. Yes, I became a lifetime member of 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.520 the NAACP. And I believe right now in this moment, 0:15:39.780 --> 0:15:44.140 as we are continually being attacked, that we need to form... 0:15:44.740 --> 0:15:49.240 massive coalitions of people to push back because, you know, 0:15:49.300 --> 0:15:52.660 the other side has massive amounts of money and we 0:15:52.710 --> 0:15:57.210 don't have that, that massive amount of money, but we 0:15:57.250 --> 0:16:00.390 do have people. And so I believe organized people will 0:16:00.410 --> 0:16:03.090 be big money each and every day, but we just 0:16:03.130 --> 0:16:04.690 have to get our people organized. 0:16:05.030 --> 0:16:10.190 Do you think that the big tent is, within the 0:16:10.230 --> 0:16:14.390 Democratic Party is too big? Should there be a third party, 0:16:14.450 --> 0:16:16.380 a fourth party, a fifth party? Is part of the 0:16:16.430 --> 0:16:18.600 issue we're trying to put all of these people with 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.940 different ideologies under one umbrella? 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.240 I'm not sure. Yes and no. 0:16:24.180 --> 0:16:31.650 I just know that the Democratic Party has to support 0:16:32.770 --> 0:16:35.530 the leadership of Black people and not just want the 0:16:35.570 --> 0:16:36.910 labor of Black people. 0:16:38.580 --> 0:16:42.000 I believe... The audience agrees. As a church, deep from 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.080 the ancestors. 0:16:44.700 --> 0:16:50.280 I believe also that a lot of people benefited from 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:51.080 me not. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:51.760 Will. 0:16:51.620 --> 0:16:55.120 Benefit from me not being in the Senate. Even folks 0:16:55.220 --> 0:16:57.120 who were in the party. 0:16:57.180 --> 0:16:58.520 Like, you know. 0:16:58.540 --> 0:17:00.060 Tell me what you mean by that they'll benefit. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:00.850 There are. 0:17:02.970 --> 0:17:03.610 There are some. 0:17:04.690 --> 0:17:07.010 There was a donor who talked to one of my 0:17:07.050 --> 0:17:09.760 political directors when I was at a fundraiser and was like, 0:17:09.820 --> 0:17:12.680 he still donated, but he was just like, oh my gosh, 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.330 I never felt, you know, I never had someone talk 0:17:15.369 --> 0:17:18.189 about me in front of my face like that. I 0:17:18.210 --> 0:17:21.609 was talking about just, you know, the ultra wealthy needing 0:17:21.650 --> 0:17:25.810 to pay what they owe and to pay people living 0:17:25.850 --> 0:17:27.390 wages and all the things. 0:17:27.450 --> 0:17:28.590 I didn't miss my words. 0:17:28.690 --> 0:17:31.179 I don't care who it is. Conviction set in. 0:17:31.170 --> 0:17:32.240 Right. It did. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.440 And so there's a lot of people that, you know, 0:17:36.500 --> 0:17:42.879 they're a part of the party, but they benefit with 0:17:43.619 --> 0:17:51.020 the lack of money. just hardcore going after the ultra 0:17:51.060 --> 0:17:51.960 wealthy that. 0:17:51.859 --> 0:17:53.440 Are exploiting people, right? 0:17:54.820 --> 0:17:58.530 They don't want someone super vocal about ensuring we have 0:17:58.710 --> 0:18:02.610 access to Medicare for all because they may have stocks 0:18:02.710 --> 0:18:07.470 in these health insurance companies, right? Or they may be 0:18:07.540 --> 0:18:09.520 where they got their money or they got their money 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.700 from you know, gentrifying neighborhoods, like just when you think 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:14.159 about it. 0:18:14.260 --> 0:18:16.720 And so I'm calling it all out. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:21.300 And, you know, that makes people uncomfortable and they have 0:18:21.340 --> 0:18:25.330 to talk about an answer to why they're showing up 0:18:25.369 --> 0:18:27.470 in that way. And so I think there's a lot 0:18:27.490 --> 0:18:29.730 of people that are happy that I didn't, that I 0:18:29.750 --> 0:18:30.250 didn't win. 0:18:30.630 --> 0:18:33.650 Have you talked to Chuck Schumer since Tuesday? 0:18:34.609 --> 0:18:36.390 Have I spoken with him? No, but I've spoken with 0:18:36.410 --> 0:18:39.430 some other folks. And so I just want to say, 0:18:39.470 --> 0:18:47.900 you know, like Senator Sanders, Rep. Ayanna Pressley, Rep. AOC, Rep. Frost, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:56.399 who else? Senator Murphy, Rep. Conner, and Senator Osselbrooks and 0:18:56.420 --> 0:18:58.820 Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester. 0:18:58.940 --> 0:18:59.660 Oh, my gosh. 0:18:59.980 --> 0:19:03.880 She's amazing. Like, she's amazing. Folks should look at her 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:05.919 for that. some positions. 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:07.010 Maybe for a leader. 0:19:07.150 --> 0:19:09.109 I mean, you know, you said that. 0:19:09.210 --> 0:19:10.230 Okay, I did. 0:19:10.250 --> 0:19:12.389 But she's great. 0:19:13.070 --> 0:19:16.209 I am so grateful that you would be here with us. 0:19:16.390 --> 0:19:18.030 And Angie, I really do want you to know, I 0:19:19.330 --> 0:19:22.050 will say this because I've heard it from our brother 0:19:22.270 --> 0:19:26.550 Andrew before too, but you feeling at all like you 0:19:26.609 --> 0:19:29.790 let the people down is the exact opposite of how 0:19:29.830 --> 0:19:34.760 the people feel. And if anybody disagrees with me, they 0:19:34.820 --> 0:19:37.459 on an island by themselves. But I really want you 0:19:37.500 --> 0:19:40.740 to know, like, we saw ourselves reflected in your race. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.170 Your grit is... The exact type of thing, the courage 0:19:44.210 --> 0:19:47.540 that you demonstrated up against all odds is what we 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.180 need for this moment. And I'm saying need. because I 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:52.500 don't think your moment. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:52.880 Is over, ma'am. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.139 So from one Angela to another, our name means bringer 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:58.899 of truth. I know you're going to keep bringing the 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.550 truth and the action for the people. Thank you for 0:20:01.570 --> 0:20:01.949 being here. 0:20:01.970 --> 0:20:04.189 Thank you for having me. Thank y'all. 0:20:08.190 --> 0:20:15.370 Now, We have a responsibility to take everything we built 0:20:16.250 --> 0:20:17.449 and make it stronger. 0:20:17.470 --> 0:20:20.750 While voters can change who's in office, that doesn't always 0:20:20.830 --> 0:20:24.310 change who's calling the shots. So tonight we're asking, who 0:20:24.390 --> 0:20:27.209 really holds power in America? Is it the people who 0:20:27.230 --> 0:20:31.189 cast the votes, the politicians who make the laws, or 0:20:31.210 --> 0:20:35.720 the wealthy interests financing the entire process? And most importantly, 0:20:36.030 --> 0:20:38.510 what would it take for our communities to move beyond 0:20:38.550 --> 0:20:44.550 political representation and exercise real, lasting power? Please welcome our panelists, 0:20:44.609 --> 0:20:48.810 Pastor Lorenzo Sewell, Senior Pastor of 180 Church in Detroit, 0:20:49.270 --> 0:20:54.090 Maurice Moe Mitchell, the National Director of the Working Families Party, Dr. 0:20:54.150 --> 0:20:58.429 David Jermaine Johns, Sociologist, CEO and Executive Director of the 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:02.500 National Black Justice Collective, editor of the Black Papers as well, 0:21:02.820 --> 0:21:04.800 More on that to come. Relax, David. It's not your 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:09.710 turn just yet. And Representative Justin Jones, Tennessee State Representative 0:21:09.750 --> 0:21:13.250 of District 52 of Nashville, where he just killed last 0:21:13.290 --> 0:21:19.330 week with more than 78% of the vote. Today, y'all, 0:21:19.350 --> 0:21:23.669 we will be addressing three claims. First, electing black leaders 0:21:23.750 --> 0:21:28.100 is not the same as giving black communities power. Two, 0:21:28.380 --> 0:21:33.180 money wins elections, not people. Three, People power can win 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:37.169 a moment, but it takes enforceable institutions to make the 0:21:37.230 --> 0:21:41.030 victory last. Thank you to our partners at Onyx Impact 0:21:41.070 --> 0:21:43.669 for this incredible research. We're ready to fact check today. 0:21:43.730 --> 0:21:47.670 And let me just say, today and always, fact checking 0:21:47.710 --> 0:21:50.190 belongs in the hands of the people. So you heard 0:21:50.210 --> 0:21:53.180 me right. Today, I'm not your fact checker. Anybody can 0:21:53.220 --> 0:21:55.899 be a fact checker on this illustrious panel. And they 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.520