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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is d Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: and Matt. This is the start of our number two

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Speaker 2: of the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. That

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Speaker 2: means for the next fifteen or so minutes, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk a little fantasy football.

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Speaker 3: I like it and I'll really dig in. Let's talk

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Speaker 3: a little.

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Speaker 2: Running backs today and some tears. I'm looking here at

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Speaker 2: fantasypros dot Com and they have the running backs tiered.

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Speaker 2: They do good drum, they do a nice they do

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Speaker 2: nice work. Yeah, so Tier one is kind of everybody

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Speaker 2: knows this one. It's McCaffrey Vjean Robinson.

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Speaker 3: Breese Hall. Okay, quick question for you. We'll get into

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Speaker 3: the nuts and bolts of the other things, because I

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Speaker 3: think that's very chocky and I agree with all of it.

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Speaker 3: Is McCaffrey in his own tier for free. You think

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Speaker 3: they're all together? No too.

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Speaker 2: I think I could make an argument for taking Jon

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Speaker 2: Robinson number one overall.

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Speaker 3: I could make an argument they should be the top

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Speaker 3: three picks. You can make that argument too, just because

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Speaker 3: the rest of the conversation in this segment, I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna say very much nice things. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like you got to start them right, And

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Maybe six running backs maybe seven that are going to

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Speaker 2: be quote unquote true bell cow. They have no competition.

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Speaker 2: It's they ca their job. They catch it, they catch

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Speaker 2: the football. One of them doesn't, but he's still yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he's still the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, in the field a lot. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 3: like on the field for and for a back, that's

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Speaker 3: like seventy percent.

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Speaker 2: Of Now, if I don't get one of those guys,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be stringing together week to week. If I

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Speaker 2: get two of those guys, yeah, right right, So.

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Speaker 3: I would pay a lot to get one of those three, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and be really comfort trouble with it.

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Speaker 2: I think the other guys two of them are or

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Speaker 2: three of them are in Tier two. I think that's

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, Okay, and the other

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Speaker 2: guy that I would put any talking about every down

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Speaker 2: type guy. Yeah, yeah, I think they qualify. Do we

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Speaker 2: think Taylor is going to be out there on third

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Speaker 2: and eight. I mean, he certainly has the Henry likes

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Speaker 2: pay you. Yeah, they're paying him.

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Speaker 3: He's a better receiver than Henry, but it's not a specialty,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how much you're going to throw

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Speaker 2: to the backs because that's not the quarterbacks, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I also worry that he's an a pillage at

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Speaker 3: the goal line a little bit too. But he's a

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Speaker 3: good player. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I might have a couple other guys that Isaiah Pacheco

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Speaker 2: because he has no competitions.

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Speaker 3: Or two that are Karon Wood Paulume, but.

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Speaker 2: Not great players. And I'll give you one other guy, okay,

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: I'm really growing. I'm growing fond of him too. I

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Speaker 3: might even put mix in there. Yeah, And I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's necessarily good either. I have him low on

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Speaker 3: my list, but I think he's going to be out

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Speaker 3: there a lot. Yeah. Here, he's not great in.

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Speaker 2: Protection though he never Pierce is. Piers is having a

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Speaker 2: great camp and he's yeah, he's fine. He gets the

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Speaker 2: offense this year. He didn't He didn't know the offense

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Speaker 2: last year. That's why they didn't like him.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of hoping that way. I think Pierce is

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Speaker 3: a good player.

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Speaker 2: Uh so they're Tier two guys are Taylor, Henry Barkley,

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Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs, Karen Williams. I agree with that. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: would put a Chan there too. I can't put a

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Speaker 2: Chan there. I can't put a guy who averaged twelve

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Speaker 2: he's not a tier two guy.

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Speaker 3: To me, he is because he's so explosive.

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Speaker 2: To me, you really think he's going to average seven

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Speaker 3: But I think he'll get more touches than twelve.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he will, and he's not going to

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Speaker 3: He's a lot like Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: How many touchdowns did he score this year?

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Speaker 3: Six to eight?

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Speaker 2: He better if you're going to take him that high

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: I think I think the league figures some of that

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think Moster is going to score

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Speaker 2: Twelve touches a game, Yeah, because they're gonna want to

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Speaker 2: They want to have him out there, and not just

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Speaker 3: I think he's getting more than twelve touches a game.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what I think he breaks in because

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Speaker 2: half if they get more than twelve touch It happened

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Speaker 2: both times if they did it. Last year, he put

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Speaker 2: him out there and he got He got hurt in

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Speaker 2: the preseason. He got hurt in the regular season twice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like him as much as some of the

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Speaker 3: guys in that tier, though, I can't take him. Who

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Speaker 3: is the bottom of that tier?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Taron Williams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would take a chance over Williams. Now you

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Speaker 3: can have them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Tier three guys. Travis atn he's volume two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't love the player.

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Speaker 2: I don't love the player at all.

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Speaker 3: He's okay, he doesn't catch the ball.

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Speaker 2: There's still people out there in Pittsburgh. The Steelers should

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Speaker 2: have taken at N over Nagi Harris.

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Speaker 3: Take a look at at think anyone the steel organization

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Speaker 3: w when the when the Steelers played the Jaguars last year,

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Speaker 3: ATM was off to a good start. Yeah, he was hot.

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Speaker 2: He was hot at that point. Ye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As the season went on, he'd look at it to Nausey.

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Speaker 2: Harris finished with the higher average yards per carry than

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Speaker 3: And Nause's jobs way harder and his job is way harder,

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Speaker 3: way harder. Yeah, he's Dodgy's the better football He's the

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Speaker 3: better football player. I'm taking a ten ahead of him

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Speaker 3: in fantasy because he's got different plant.

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Speaker 2: In the different world. Yeah. But checko, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: I keep moving up. Yeah, I mean it sure looks

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Speaker 2: like Worthy Rice. All those guys are gonna use a lot,

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Speaker 2: And I keep moving homes up too. They got a

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Speaker 2: Chan at eleven. Huh, Kenneth Walker twelve.

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Speaker 3: We're both fans.

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs at thirteen. I think Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: I would have him two or three spots higher. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'd like a Chan better, but I like Jacobs more

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Speaker 3: than is going to be way better than a chance.

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Speaker 2: Joe Mixon at yeah, jamesone else.

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Speaker 3: Can have mixing, but I get the why he's that high.

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Speaker 3: James Cook at fifteen impressive, Ray Davis is good and

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Speaker 3: Allen seals a ton of touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: And then the final guy in Tier three at sixteen

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Speaker 3: Good receiver. He's not a Their running game was so

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Speaker 3: bad last year, but receiving is worth more.

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Speaker 2: He had Graham Barton to the equation. Yeah, he looked

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Speaker 2: not much competition, is the beauty of That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: If he goes out and catches sixty five seventy passes, again,

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Speaker 3: To our original point, though, how many guys were in

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Speaker 3: Tier three? They're like eight ten, Maybe it's like nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I bet there's five of them that I have very

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Speaker 3: little chance of owning. Yeah you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like I just thought Thrilled with that neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, cham would be mine because I'm not taking him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm taking a receiver over a lot of

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Speaker 2: Tier four, this, I think you can make some Yet,

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Speaker 2: if they're some of the guys, I think seventeen is

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Speaker 2: David Montgomery.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty solid.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about being a touchdown guy in

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Speaker 2: a good offense.

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Speaker 3: He catches the ball too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he runs. He's the guy that they give

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Speaker 2: the dirty work to. He's running between the tackles.

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Speaker 3: Right, seems like a hundred years ago. But remember Whenjamal

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Speaker 3: Williams was there and he scored a million touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I had him as my number two back last year.

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Speaker 2: I took him in like the eighth round. Yeah, in

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Speaker 2: the league we're in, that was money. They're just him

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Speaker 2: and Gibbs are totally different usage. Yeah, James Connor at eighteen,

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Speaker 2: he still gets it done. Yeah, and he's still the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get him pretty cheap. I think that's

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Speaker 3: some pretty good offense too. Alvin Kamara, he's another declining player.

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Speaker 3: But everything you read about everyone else is terrible. Miller's

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Speaker 3: Mar's gonna catch passes.

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Speaker 2: Ramandre Stevenson at twenty, I think he's gonna get the

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Speaker 2: ball a lot. But they're never gonna right. They're lying

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Speaker 2: is bad. Yeah, their offense his real situation. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: probably the last of all the guys. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: Najee Harris at twenty one. Okay, he's kind of creeping

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people were catching on that they that

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Speaker 3: this offense can feed two backs. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Jones at twenty two.

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Speaker 3: I'd take him at that number.

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Speaker 2: I'm just interested to see this ty Chandler. He did

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Speaker 2: because Jones was never He's never been the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chandler's one of my favorite late picks. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mostered at twenty three.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing that he scored that many Fantasy thirty two

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Speaker 3: he's not for me because I like a chand too.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four is a mere white volume there.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of talk about him because he played

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Speaker 3: deep into the third quarter like he was a backup

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Speaker 3: last week. He might be a back. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: there's no one else there. It's Dylan, Lobby and Madison.

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Speaker 3: But the fantasy community is all abuzz of his usage.

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Speaker 3: Was not as a featured back the last preseason game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they have a quote unquote feature back.

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Speaker 2: The last player in that tier Tier four DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 3: They gave him money. They gave him money. He's always

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Speaker 3: lets you down a little, but he's never kills you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Roshawan's bad. I can see like Khalil

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Speaker 3: Herbert should be traded. Go to Dallas or something like

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Vegas. Go to Vegas. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Tony Pollard, Okay, I would think Spears over Paulard.

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Speaker 2: He'll have nine hundred rushing yards this year and he

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Speaker 3: Maybe? Maybe it's a good offense. It's a good offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: twenty one on their list. Jalen Warren came in at

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Speaker 3: they get huge spikes?

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Speaker 2: At thirty two, Jonathan Brooks, you get to wait a month,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, worked the waiver wire or trade or whatever

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Speaker 2: Thirty three Gus Edwards.

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Speaker 3: Dobbins worries me, though I think I have Dobbins ahead. Edwards,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know if anyone in that mcconkey's

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown at thirty five. I don't mind Chase Brown.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's a Harris Warren kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: which probably means I won't own either one of them.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think either one's great, you know, but

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Speaker 2: Nick Chubb at thirty six, who knows when that thing happens?

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Speaker 2: And then at thirty seven, the last guy in tier

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're closer than that.

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Speaker 2: I think they are too. And here's why. How many

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Speaker 3: Right? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Who's out there in fourth or fourth quarter when they're

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Speaker 2: losing Hostin Eklar caught one hundred and four passes two

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Speaker 2: he's a small back and in this backfield he's more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he scored a million touchdowns in his life

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Speaker 2: In Tier six. Now you're starting to.

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Speaker 3: Get to some yeah backups and Charbona's and guys like that.

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight is Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 3: All reports are he looks horrendous. I don't want anything

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Speaker 3: Not inspiring, but if you're really down on the same

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Speaker 3: if they're not good players, right right, you just need

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Speaker 2: Blake korm at forty, Trey Benson at forty one, not

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Speaker 2: been good reports on him, Chewbahobbard at forty two. If

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Rico dal Dell.

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Speaker 3: He could be better than Zeke, but I kind of

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Speaker 3: went neither. Yeah, I don't want to deal with that either. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Forty four Zach Charbonney.

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Speaker 3: Those are the type of guys I'm after, Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: Forty five is ty Chandler.

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Speaker 3: Okay, talked about him a little bit. Forty six is

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Speaker 2: Forty seven is JK. Dobbins.

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Speaker 3: I'll take him at that price.

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Speaker 2: Forty eight Julia McLaughlin.

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Speaker 3: He's another one that's pretty interesting. Catches the ball, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean the guy who catches the running back who catches

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Speaker 3: gonna have a Kamara catch eighty three balls three years

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Speaker 3: in a row guy, But there's enough to go around.

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Speaker 2: Forty nine is Antonio Gibson. Can you quit Antonio Gibson yet?

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Speaker 2: Matt he's with the Patriots Now.

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Speaker 3: I know it's the same conversation with Hermandre obviously, but

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Speaker 3: the lesser version. Yeah. Fifty is Khalil Drake May starts

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Speaker 3: to show something.

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Speaker 2: I'm not counting on that.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing is, you got to he'd be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not counting on that.

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Speaker 3: Khalil Herbert at fifty, I hope he gets traded. I

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Speaker 2: Fifty one is Marshawn Lloyd with the Packers.

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Speaker 3: Heard nothing good about him. Yeah, since he's been there,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kendre Miller with New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: He was something I was really hot on, but coach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's tough love. Roshawn Johnson at fifty four,

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Speaker 3: At fifty five, also at three.

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Speaker 2: But but you mentioned that the one in UH slash

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Speaker 3: They're both they both could be injury front dudes.

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Speaker 2: Braylan Allen with the Jets, a lot of buzz. Looks

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be close to being healthy.

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Speaker 2: Damian Pierce at fifty eight, Bucky Irving at fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: These guys don't sound appealing, but a couple of them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the number three back and does playing special teams.

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Speaker 3: He has very little value.

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Speaker 2: Sixty four is Tank Bigsby. You take an you better grab,

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Speaker 2: I'll take it takes if he's available this late.

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Speaker 3: I don't think if you're going to run at n

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Speaker 2: He's the two, but I.

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Speaker 3: Don't want him. Yeah, that just makes you want to

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Speaker 2: Sixty six and sixty seven a pair of Ravens, Keeth

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Speaker 3: Oh I got Mitchell screwed up. Keith Mitchell's the one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Justice Hill is the guy.

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Speaker 3: He's the two. Yeah, always forget about him. He's very nondescript.

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Speaker 3: But what if Henry gets hurt?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they work and pretty slim.

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Speaker 2: got a little bit interested. Will Shipley at seventy one

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go yeah to that done. These

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Speaker 3: It's not great. I really don't. There's many that I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there really aren't many guys who you look at.

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Speaker 2: I want my I want my running backs, my starting

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Speaker 2: And I know you differ on this because you are

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Speaker 3: the floor, gives you a floor. It gives you a floor. Yeah, yeah, no,

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00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,560
Speaker 3: I hear you. I mean I am't a Chan guy.

442
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,880
Speaker 3: I think he could be special.

443
00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,200
Speaker 2: And I had a Chan last year and there's three

444
00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,680
Speaker 2: weeks that he was healthy. There was a couple of

445
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 2: outs really fun, but then not so much.

446
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,679
Speaker 3: I set the league that we've been in since my

447
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 3: freshman year of college or whatever. I set the record

448
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 3: for most fav dollars ever invested in a player. I

449
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 3: gave eighty three of my hundred bucks for a chance.

450
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 2: You got him three awesome weeks and yeah, helped him.

451
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,399
Speaker 2: It came in like third, say healthy, I might have

452
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 2: won the whole thing. If he stayed healthy, that might

453
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 2: be they might carve that on his uh epithet. He

454
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 2: stayed healthy.

455
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Speaker 3: But as a rule, I just kind of look at

456
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,239
Speaker 3: backs like when they get hurt, not if Yeah. I mean,

457
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 3: I mean there are the Naugies of the world that

458
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 3: are a little more reliable than average, and you know

459
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 3: there's something we said, but he's.

460
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 2: Not like Jamal Charles was a guy who had the

461
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 2: big playability and all.

462
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 3: This, but he stayed healthy.

463
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 2: Right, This was a little more every downish than a chance,

464
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 2: a chance like one hundred and ninety pounds. He got

465
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 2: dinged in the preseason last year and then immediately came

466
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 2: out and you know, okay, some great play and then

467
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: he gets hurt again, Like you just can't. I can't

468
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 2: count on that. I think he's special for where I

469
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: get to take him, because it took me at wow,

470
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 2: to warm up.

471
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 3: To him, like I didn't own him in any dynasty drafts.

472
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 3: I was really biased against little dudes. But in that

473
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 3: offense with speed and light boxes, who sign me up?

474
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 3: Have fun with it.

475
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: In the second round, I'll take.

476
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 3: Him an Anthony Richardson will be our ones we fight over.

477
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: You can have them both. We always have a couple

478
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 3: every year. Yeah.

479
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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to another break. That's going to do

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Speaker 2: it for the fantasy football focus for today. He is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. That was the

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Speaker 2: Fantasy pros running back ranking.

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Speaker 3: It's true a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: At this he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt I was just

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Speaker 2: looking at something here on the thirty third Team, a

492
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Speaker 2: site that we look at and talk about regularly every day. Yeah.

493
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: So Aria Meirov, who's their NFL Yeah.

494
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah guy? Yeah, insider type.

495
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: Right, speculates could a Raiders slow start lead to a

496
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams trade.

497
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: It's a good conversation. I think he could be had.

498
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 3: I think it could be had too.

499
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: And here's why. His his base salary this year. Yeah,

500
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: at thirty two is about sixty two years old, right, Yeah,

501
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 2: thirty two years old is about sixteen point nine million dollars.

502
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 3: Which is nice for the new team. For the new team, yeah.

503
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: Not terrible. No, No, And his base salaries, they have

504
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 2: a potential out after that. He's not going to be

505
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: a Raider after this season. No, they absolutely won't. Yeah,

506
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: and now think he wants to be because his base

507
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: salaries the next two seasons after that are thirty five

508
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: million dollars in each of the next two years. He

509
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: will not be a Raider, right for this year.

510
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 3: And they have quarterback issues, And I think investing in

511
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 3: Bowers and then Meyers the year before and Mayor the

512
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: year before kind of says, we love you, but we

513
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 3: know life's not going to be long with you. So

514
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: I think they're the epitome of this. But there's a

515
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: handful of teams Seattle Tampa that probably don't want to

516
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: trade their best guys now. But what if they're zering

517
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 3: three or trade deadline and they're going down the toilet.

518
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: I don't think the Raiders. I don't think the Raiders.

519
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders could do it now. Yeah, I mean,

520
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: like I'm talking about Godwin and Metcalf and those guys.

521
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: Because essentially, with the salary base salary of sixteen point

522
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: eight nine million, DeVante Adams is going to cost either

523
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Speaker 2: the Raiders or whatever team acquires them a million dollars

524
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Speaker 2: a week.

525
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

526
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you're going to pick up a loser

527
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: gain on your salary cap. Yeah, telling me you don't

528
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: think the Raiders could use that million dollars a week

529
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: that you can roll over into next year the.

530
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Speaker 3: Next year, right, that could be Dak Prescott, that could

531
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: be anything. I mean their quarterbacks. I think their quarterback

532
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: situation is the worst in the league. Yeah, situation. That

533
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they'll have the thirty second Like, come on,

534
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: Neither one is a long term answer. I mean, maybe

535
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: the Giants are worse because they have so much money

536
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: invested in Jones. But Jones might be good.

537
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: But here's the one thing about Like, so if the

538
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: let's say, for example, the Steelers, Ayuke thing doesn't happen, or.

539
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: Let's say signed with the Niners today, Yeah, a long

540
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 3: term deal.

541
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Speaker 2: So one of the teams I would think that the

542
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: that the Niners were talking to a potential trade.

543
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 3: With, yes, would be the Raiders. I would absolutely think so.

544
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: But this would have cost them money against their salary

545
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: cap to trade out Ayuk for Adams.

546
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Speaker 3: Right right, right, it's actually lost Steelers and sent them

547
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: to the Raiders more or less.

548
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: And that loss and you don't have the player after

549
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: this season.

550
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: Right, So I'm not sure about this. If hypothetical Steelers

551
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: trade for DeVante Adams today, million dollars a week doesn't

552
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: buy them at all, No, I mean.

553
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: They had they actually had the cap space to make them,

554
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't even put it down? Yeah, I mean put a dent. Well,

555
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: but would you add a year or two to him?

556
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Now you could? I mean i'd want to see thirty two.

557
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: I'd want to see because you don't have to make

558
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: that decision franchise him.

559
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: But that doesn't happen much.

560
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: I don't know when the new contract. I don't know

561
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: if there's anything in there in terms of roster bonuses

562
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: or anything like that, not that I'm aware of.

563
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: But I haven't studied it in depth. I it's a.

564
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: Adams Earns a base salary of sixteen point eight This,

565
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: according to the spot track base salary of sixteen point

566
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 2: eight nine, with a workout bonus of one hundred thousand dollars,

567
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: were carrying a cap hit of a twenty five million

568
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: a dead cap value of forty point four million.

569
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dead cap stuff's not great. No, but there's

570
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: a lot of talk that they're willing to take a

571
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: pick for him either way.

572
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be you're not going to get anything

573
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 2: for him. You're just gonna cut him. You're gonna cut

574
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: Are you going anywhere this year with DeVante Adams?

575
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, I really don't think so.

576
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they have a chance of competing. I

577
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: don't think they have a chance to win that division

578
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: with the Chiefs in it. I do know the dead

579
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: cap stuff isn't great for the Raiders, but he's still

580
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 3: Maybe he's not quite as good as he was a

581
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: year or two ago, but I hesitate to say that

582
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: because he's an elite route runner. I think he's probably

583
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: a top five receiver, and I don't throw that around easily.

584
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: I mean taking Jefferson Hill over him. Then it starts

585
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 3: to get real short. You know, he's that good.

586
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: He is an outstanding, outstanding at all levels.

587
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 3: I mean, he is a student of the game, plays hard,

588
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 3: He'll block a little bit. He's on third and eight.

589
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: The ball's going to him, you know, and the whole

590
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: world knows, and he still catches it, and he still

591
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: catches it. And quarterbacks didn't help him at all last year,

592
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But he was doing with

593
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: Rogers was ridiculous. What's he cost though? Third?

594
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: I'd be willing to go third for him, and would

595
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: I would think the Raiders would would look at that

596
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: and say, hey, we're not going to get anything for

597
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: the guy when we cut him after this year.

598
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: All right. I don't think that's a bad deal for

599
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: either team.

600
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't think so either, right, even if it is

601
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: a one year run on it, and you can, again

602
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: to your point, you could extend him.

603
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: He plays it's an old man's game. Yeah. I don't

604
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: think he fades away or drops off a cliff either.

605
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: No, because his name is his game has never been

606
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: predicated on speed.

607
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: Huh uh uh. I mean he is a break your

608
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 3: He's kind even more explosive. Yeah, I was gonna say,

609
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 3: like Larry or Hopkins, but he's a better separator than

610
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: those guys. At the end they were box you out,

611
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: go up and get it in a real old man's game.

612
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: He can still snap your ankles and like his releases

613
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: off the line are beautiful, and he is a wide

614
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: wide bag of tricks and all that kind of stuff too.

615
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: He's not slow now, he really isn't. And even if

616
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: he slows down, which he will, I mean, I'd love

617
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 3: to have him. Hey, I'll give you a third round

618
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: pick right now. Let's talk to your agent about adding

619
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: a year or two. But if i'm him him, I

620
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: want to hit the open market. I say, I mean

621
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: receivers are rich.

622
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean he he has to know that nobody's gonna

623
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: pay him thirty five million next year. But does he

624
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: asked for twenty five a year after this year? Probably

625
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: I can live with that. I can finangle that though. Yeah,

626
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: right for aquitable years and things of that nature, that.

627
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: I can live with that. Yeah, I would definitely talk

628
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: about even at a one year rental. Would be interested

629
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: in a third because you're that you would probably get

630
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 3: a comp pick back and return for him.

631
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he leaves, you're gonna get third back, probably

632
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: because somebody's gonna sign him to that, you know. Yeah,

633
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will start beating the table and with the Jets,

634
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: I want him.

635
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: We got to get him. I would talk extension though, yeah, yeah,

636
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: I mean he add one year or two, it would

637
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: be great.

638
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: If not him, Jacobe Myers.

639
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 3: You think they'd be less motivated to move him. I

640
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: think you'd get a lot less for him if you're

641
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: the Raiders. Yeah, I mean you might be.

642
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: That might be more like a five yeah, swap of stuff.

643
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers will be a very welcome edition here.

644
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing with Jakobe Meyer. Like, okay, so

645
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: his base salary this year is five millions, dropping the

646
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: bucket next year does a ten to five, which is

647
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: still a dropping bill to handle that, that's something. His

648
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: cap number is fourteen nine for the almost fifteen million

649
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 2: dollars next year, but he'll be twenty nine. Do they

650
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: want to like I could see them just cleaning house.

651
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 3: Like first round picks of the receiver next year, yeah, you know,

652
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: and sign a quarterback or quarterback side because Bowers.

653
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: They drafted Bowers this year with something in mind, like when.

654
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: The preseason has shown him and Mayer are on the

655
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: field together all the time. Yeah, yeah, I mean Bowers

656
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: is I think they would like Bowers to be their

657
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: leading receiver. Yeah, in the next like five years, you know,

658
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: like I doubt he's gonna out. Just start that, start

659
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: that moving now, right right right. I mean, by all

660
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: its accounts, he has passed every test. You've got all

661
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: the used like a wide out.

662
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: You've got all this money tied up in two wide

663
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: receivers you're not going to.

664
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: Use, and you really don't want money tied up in

665
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: wide receivers without quarterbacks. Yeah, and I know that Steelers

666
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: don't have a quarterback under contract next year either, but

667
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: they're in a different place than the Raiders.

668
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but they've got a much better roster.

669
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: Much better roster, more app space. You could extend Wilson,

670
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: you can extend fields, you know, and you can figure

671
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: that in. That wouldn't be hard if their successes, you know, Yeah,

672
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't love investing in a thirty two year old,

673
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: but one that's playing like a Hall of famer that

674
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: might go to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, you could

675
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: convince me, no, doubt, and I get it. And Meyers

676
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: is interesting too.

677
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: I get it that you're getting older. Everybody that you're

678
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: bringing in is older. You're trying to win now.

679
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: You're trying to win now, and it's divisions hard, and

680
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: you're not trying to rebuild, you know, like you're a

681
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: much better team with thin.

682
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: You're not making long term investments in old guys.

683
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: No, no, you're not, especially if it's an ad one

684
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: year on there. Okay, still Draft one the third round

685
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: next year, or Roman Wilson hits. Yeah, see what happens

686
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: with them, you know, right. I mean, I'm still a believer.

687
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: And you might have a draft pickings replacement, who knows.

688
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna be expensive when the day comes.

689
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: But they have so much money. Yeah, they have so

690
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: much money. The money doesn't bother me at all.

691
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: No, you've got you've got the available cash to do

692
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: whatever you want to do this year conceivably and whatever

693
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: you want to do in future years.

694
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: Like Myers would make them a noticeably better team. Now,

695
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: I'm not predicting this, but if you added DeVante Adams,

696
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: you could win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, I'm

697
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: not saying they're my pick or I'm gonna bet every

698
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: dollar I have or predict that you could win the

699
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: super Bowl with him if.

700
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: You have Davante Adams on this roster, right, is anybody

701
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: doubling George Pickens?

702
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: That's the other thing. And how do you put it

703
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: in the box? Right? You know, even NFL quarterback that

704
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: is gonna go. Oh, I got one on one with Adams.

705
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: I can scream it through the mountains. I'm going to him.

706
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: I don't care what corner's on them. I'm going to

707
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: him on third naight. Yeah, and you got a safety

708
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: over George or you're loading the box like there's not

709
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: an answer. There's no answer. Yeah. If the running games

710
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: as good as we think it could be, you're gonna

711
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: get one George to me on one on ones a lot,

712
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: and you know where they're going with that. I mean,

713
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: just chuck it up and go be big and you know,

714
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: do a high.

715
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: We're going to average twenty five.

716
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: It's a game. Yeah. And you can withstand injuries of course, yeah,

717
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: you know. I mean if Adams get here and play

718
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: eight games and get hurt, doesn't mean you're washed, you know, No.

719
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: I that's the That's why I was so strong on

720
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: Ayuk too because of that reason, Like, yeah, how do

721
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: you defend?

722
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: But the cost to me in terms is a different world.

723
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: It's a different world. It's a different world. It's a

724
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 3: third versus a two or a one or two and

725
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: three or something like that. Right, right, it's a different world,

726
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: you know. But that's the thing, is just adding one more.

727
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: Myers are better receiver.

728
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. So not knowing what the

729
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: Steelers are offering the forty nine ers for Ayuk, Yeah,

730
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: there is an offer out there.

731
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: We know that. It sure doesn't sound like a first

732
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: round picks involved.

733
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: There's I know it's not a first round pick, and

734
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: I know there are no players involved.

735
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: Okay, doesn't leave much, doesn't leave much, right, right?

736
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: Would you make the same offer for Adams? No, the

737
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: money's not different.

738
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: The money's higher on Ayuk.

739
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: Well you're gonna have to pay Ayuk.

740
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you would definitely extend him if you may.

741
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: That's trade. I mean, no doubt I would offer more

742
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: for Ayuk than Atoms, but at cost, I might prefer

743
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: the Adams route. That's what I'm saying, you know what

744
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: I mean?

745
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: Right?

746
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: All right? Not necessarily, I don't know that I can

747
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: offer the Raiders the Ayuk package, whatever that is.

748
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say let's say, uh we said a three before.

749
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: Let's say you're you're offering a two for Ayuk. See

750
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: I bet day one four. Yeah, I think it's like

751
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: a two and a four versus a three for Adams.

752
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would go the Adams route. Yeah, I would too.

753
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: I would for the money, and I like both routes

754
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: to be honest. I mean, I've been agreed to make

755
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: you a better team. They make you a better team.

756
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: I mean if friar Mouth is your third option when

757
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: you're in twelve personnel and Washington's killing people in the

758
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: run game, like that's your only job, Darnell, Yeah, crush

759
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: people all day long, and you can learn to kick,

760
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: slide and nausey and Warner in the back one of

761
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: those twoes in the backfield and friar Mouth singled all

762
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: the time, and either Pickings or Adams.

763
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: Slash, I us one of the two is going to

764
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: be one on one all the time, all the time.

765
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: And if you want to start loading the box, that's fine,

766
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna go over the top. But if you're gonna

767
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: give us a light box, this veteran quarterback will hand

768
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 3: it off twenty times in a row. Fine by me.

769
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: I can win with that with Kyle Allen as my quarterback.

770
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it would be back to our

771
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 3: first segment, grind it out tough games like that. But

772
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: you know, imagine a package with Fields of those guys too.

773
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: He can still throw the deep ball. I mean, are

774
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: you not gonna if Fields is out there? With Davante

775
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: Adams on this team, are you not gonna play an

776
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: eight man box? You know what I mean? You're gonna

777
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 3: get gouged in the run game, and it's death by

778
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: a thousand paper cuts. But man, if the old line's

779
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: close to where it can be in the run games,

780
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: close to where it can be, you add Adams to that.

781
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, even if even if the offensive line took some time,

782
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: it just struggle, right because you have two outstanding receivers

783
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: on the outside.

784
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you could definitely withstand second and ten a

785
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: lot better than you used to. Yeah. You know, somebody

786
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: blows a block, you know, young young center, right tackle,

787
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: left tackle doesn't block the right guy all right, nausey

788
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: fights back to the line of scrimmage. It's second and ten.

789
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: Russ is in the shotgun and you bring Van Jefferson on,

790
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 3: but you still have Adams and Pickens and firemoth like, okay,

791
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: we're throwing here.

792
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: Even Jefferson in that situation, it becomes more valuable too,

793
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: because he's better than your third corner.

794
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah right right right, like, and he'll mix it up.

795
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 3: He's gonna be one on one and or.

796
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: Even trot Austin out there and just run take a shot,

797
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: take just run, go routes and make someone run.

798
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: With them, you know, go run wins.

799
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're Nickel Corner is a four to six guy.

800
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeaheah, No, I love it. I mean there's

801
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: other names that would suit, but I don't know that

802
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: there's available as Adams. Yeah you know what I mean,

803
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: Like you're not gonna go to see thee Lamb. No.

804
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: I keep bringing up Godwin and those kind of guys,

805
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: but they're not gonna part with them yet, yeah, you know,

806
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: or at all.

807
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Tampa Bay still won that division last year.

808
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: These gave huge contracts. They've made Winfield the highest paid

809
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: defensive back ever. Whorf's the highest paid the offensive lineman ever.

810
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: They gave Evans money.

811
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: They're in it.

812
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: To win it. They're in to win it. They gave

813
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 3: Baker money, you know, because they gave Evans money, and

814
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: they drafted mcmill and. I think Godman won't be a

815
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: buck next year, but they might win the division and

816
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: win playoff games with him this year, you know what

817
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: I mean.

818
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: The Raiders could look at this with Pierce.

819
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: Raiders should rebuild.

820
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: The Raiders should rebuild. They could look at this season

821
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: with Pierce and say, Okay, we bought some good bought

822
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: some goodwill last year with him winning some games. We're

823
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: not going to fire him after one year.

824
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: I would think, not right.

825
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna give him a chance to rebuild this in.

826
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 3: His We know he doesn't really have a quarterback.

827
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, give give him a chance to rebuild this.

828
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: We want more picks because we are talent devision right now,

829
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: and we got to compete with you know, these other

830
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: guys in our division, namely the Chiefs.

831
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: I would hope they learned their lesson. So I think

832
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: it was two off seasons ago when they went and

833
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: got at him. When they went and got at him,

834
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: they screwed up. You know, they were the real Crossroads

835
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: car was still there. They kind of had some good

836
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: things going. I think yeah, and they were better than

837
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: five hundred from what I remember, And I think they

838
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: looked at it in the arms race trying to keep

839
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: up with the Chiefs. I think they just traded Tyreek.

840
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if my timeline is exactly right.

841
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: They were moving to Vegas, they wanted the market, somebody

842
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: they could put up on the It was be Antonio

843
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: Brown that they.

844
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: Were gonna on the side of the stadium. And they

845
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: could have either folded them and say let's rebuild and

846
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: maybe move up and go get a quarterback. But they

847
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: went all their chips in and bought a receiver, and

848
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: that was the wrong decision, and now they could get

849
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: out of it, you know, and not do it again.

850
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 3: I think if I was them, if this was Raiders Radio,

851
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I'm feeling offers for that guy because

852
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: his value is only gonna go down, right, I mean

853
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: when he thirty three. I mean he won't be back

854
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: when he's thirty three, but I mean he's get something,

855
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: something for him, something.

856
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: Especially when you're not planning to use him.

857
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: Would you consider putting James Daniels in the deal? They're

858
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: right guard, right tackles bad. It's bad. If herbig was healthy,

859
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: I would consider. Yeah, I hate that part of it.

860
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: I can't do it now, You're right, I mean that

861
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: was I would have a couple of weeks ago.

862
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's why you don't trade away offensive line, Debb.

863
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: I know that's the beauty of it. I mean back

864
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: before that, I would have considered Daniels in a four,

865
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: Daniels in a five. He's still young. He could be

866
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: a foundation piece for him, but I don't know if

867
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: you can afford to move him now.

868
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's something I would definitely explore though. And

869
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure the phones I'm sure have been ringing.

870
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure, Like I can live with Spencer Anderson's my

871
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: red guard. Yeah, then the depth is scary.

872
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, then the depth Now mccormicks, you're definitely your back

873
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: up in three different was still floating around. Yeah, but

874
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: it is what it is.

875
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, the Adams conversation is a good one.

876
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson.

877
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: I am Dale. LOLLI.

878
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

879
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. We'll be back to

880
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: finish up the show right after this.

881
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

882
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

883
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

884
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: And we are back.

885
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

886
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Just

887
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: in case you wondered what you were listening to, Matt.

888
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: Looking around the league. Here Tyreek Hill, m it's their

889
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: news with him. Yeah, showed up today at practice for

890
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: the Dolphins with a brace on his hand.

891
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: Really okay, and we know Odell has hardly done anything.

892
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: They just gave Tyreek big money, I mean, which he deserves.

893
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: This kind of goes against my chan stand. But they're

894
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: a fragile team. I mean, when you're built, there are

895
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: a bunch of ferrariss are in the shop a lot,

896
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, just the way.

897
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: It works, and nobody knows how to work on.

898
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: Them right, and they don't go well in the snow. No,

899
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: So we'll see how that.

900
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a hand, yeah, yeah, maybe it's a

901
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: jammed his wrist or something.

902
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's not a broken one. You'd have definitely

903
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: heard about that, but it might be a little much

904
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 3: to do about nothing.

905
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: Who knows, uh, today after the news broke over the

906
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: weekend that we talked about it yesterday with to Attago

907
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: by Lois said to Dan Lebattard on his show about

908
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: Brian Flores, Brian Flores was, of course asked about that today,

909
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: which is why it's not fair necessarily for Tua to

910
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: do that, because now he's getting asked about something that

911
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: happened five years.

912
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: Ago quite a while.

913
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and the gist of it was that, you know,

914
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: Flores was a tough coach on him, Yeah, gave him

915
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: tough love, all that stuff. Yeah, because I'm sure Nick

916
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: Saban didn't do that to him in Alabama at all.

917
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was just all, you know, yeah, rainbows

918
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: and lots.

919
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Of hugs and yeah.

920
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: Uh so Flora said today, I see, I think, you know,

921
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: part of coaching is correcting. I'm always going to correct

922
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm always going to have a high standard and I think, look,

923
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of reflecting on the situation, reflecting

924
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: on that situation communication. I think there's things I could

925
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: do better. For sure, I've grown in that way, and

926
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: I've tried to apply that to the things that I

927
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: can do better. Uh, kind of moving forward, the things

928
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: he's learned over the last two to three years. He said,

929
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: I wish him nothing but luck each great.

930
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: That's a classy way to handle it. Yeah, you know,

931
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know that. So we were talking

932
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: about this on our podcast today and I went back

933
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: and kind of listen to some clips, and Tua was

934
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: really harsh about it, like, I don't like this man,

935
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: I don't care if everyone knows.

936
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: It.

937
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: Kind of feel to it like I'm going out of

938
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: my way to call this guy out because he didn't

939
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: be wrong. And why now, I say, I don't know

940
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: what it accomplishes.

941
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's just nothing to be gained by that.

942
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: Right, And part of it's also, hey, I'm so much

943
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: happier with McDonald. Fine, great guy, Yeah right. I mean

944
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: you were far from perfect too. You know, you were

945
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: hard to count on. And you know, I'm not defending Flores,

946
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: but that had to be a really weird environment when

947
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 3: your owner is basically telling you we're trying to lose.

948
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: We want to tank for Tua, yeah, you know, we

949
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: we really don't can reward you for winning, and deep

950
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: down he's a competitive guy, Like you could see there'd

951
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: be a little animosity towards Tua too. Yeah, I mean

952
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: not that's okay, you know, I mean everyone. I was

953
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: saying this on the podcast, like one of the things

954
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm most impressed being around coach Tomlin, and I see

955
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: one one hundredth of what he does is he can

956
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: coach with a big stick or with love or you know,

957
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: kind of knows his player, knows when to I kind

958
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: of think that's what Flora is a saying here, like

959
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: maybe I should treat everyone. I don't know. I think

960
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: Tomlin's really good at knowing what makes people tick.

961
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: Which buttons to push? Yeah, yeah, which guys?

962
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we went into this conversation too. I don't

963
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: know what you think, but times have changed, you know,

964
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: like Bear Bryant and even Chuck Nole and Landry on

965
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: the sidelines, it doesn't even smile after a touchdown. Belichick.

966
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: It's Belichick gonna be the last of those non like,

967
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: non emotional. I think we're gona seem more like Dan

968
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 3: Campbell's like he's tough, but he's your.

969
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: Buddy and he hugs you, you know what I mean,

970
00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: Like the.

971
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: Guy just stand on the sideline and never move in

972
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: their statues. I don't know that that's going to be

973
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if that plays anymore. I don't know

974
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: if it plays anymore. That's my point. Yeah, that might

975
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: be a dying breeder.

976
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: I think that might be one of the reasons why

977
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: Belichick didn't get a job in this site.

978
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: I think has a lot to do with it, right,

979
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: you know, like you're you're not nice to the media,

980
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: You're not outgoing, and any.

981
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: Lay particularly like you. Right right, They respect you, but

982
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: they don't like you. I mean, but that respect was

983
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: earned somewhere else. Like any new situation that he goes into,

984
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: you get to earn that all over again. People are

985
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: going to respect the name, yeah, but are they going

986
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: to respect you the same way that the Patriots did?

987
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: And are you going to be the czar of the

988
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: new team too, Like I'm going to buy the groceries,

989
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: cook the groceries, and if you don't like it, you know,

990
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 2: shove it.

991
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I don't know. Do you think Belichick's

992
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: get hired next year? I don't think he does. He

993
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: always gets linked to the Cowboys, but that seems like

994
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: a disastrous marriage.

995
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: Oh.

996
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: I think he would hate working for Jerias, and I

997
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: think Jones would soon hate him.

998
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because one of them really understands the game and

999
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: one of them really understands business, and it's not the same. Yeah,

1000
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1001
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: And one of them likes to dabble in the game

1002
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: a lot.

1003
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 3: He has his own radio show. You imagine, mister Rooney

1004
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: of his's own radio show every week. I cannot know

1005
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: you or his father or his father, like, it's just

1006
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 3: a different world down there. Yeah.

1007
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't think Belichick with liberal would would work

1008
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: well in that.

1009
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 3: No, I'm sure pays well. Yeah.

1010
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, again, if he's chasing records or whatever,

1011
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: you know, he might be able to do it. But again,

1012
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: do they have a quarterback next year? I mean, Parcels

1013
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: worked for Jones and mixed results, but you know, yeah.

1014
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell said that Henon Hooker is the ideal starter

1015
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: for Saturday's preseason finale against the Steelers.

1016
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I have not seen what teams have they're gonna

1017
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: They're they're not playing any nobody's playing. But that's the

1018
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: case of the whole slate, and then Hooker's perfect. Yeah,

1019
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: that's well, that's why we should have played Penix.

1020
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: Which is why today they came out again where he

1021
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 2: Morris came out again and said Penis isn't gonna play

1022
00:43:59,440 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: in a finale.

1023
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen enough. So I was very hard on

1024
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: them yesterday and I still think it's insane, but I

1025
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: was reminded they come from the Rams. They don't care

1026
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: about the preseason. I mean, no team cares about the

1027
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: preseason less than the Rams, for better or worse. But

1028
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 3: Sean mcvay's really established coach and Matthew Stafford doesn't need

1029
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: the reps and didn't draft the quarterback the first round. Yeah, like,

1030
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: if you a first round quarterback, play him, play him.

1031
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: I don't understand that.

1032
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of crazy.

1033
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Bryce Young sitting in Week one? What

1034
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: are you doing?

1035
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1036
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: For the Browns.

1037
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper was a slated to return to practice today

1038
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: for the Browns. I don't know who was out, but

1039
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: he was dealing with some soreness. Doesn't say what the

1040
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 2: soreness was. Was then not seen on the practice field.

1041
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: Okay in Cleveland today. Okay, I mean he was rumored

1042
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: in the a Ayuk deal. I don't think he's going anywhere.

1043
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: I don't think, but what you're saying, he's super important

1044
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: to him with no doubt.

1045
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's an underrated player. I mean,

1046
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 3: year after year he produces, he's another one that won't

1047
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: be back after the year. I mean, the Steelers aren't

1048
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: getting te Higgins or Marty Cooper. We know that.

1049
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: When they were signing in they give him a new deal.

1050
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think. I think he's on

1051
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: a big cap hit next year or is almost one

1052
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: hundred percent not coming back. Maybe I'm wrong on that,

1053
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: but I don't think he got anything new. I thought

1054
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: they gave him that.

1055
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Think maybe they just gave him some extra money maybe

1056
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 2: this year, this year to kind of keep him happy.

1057
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, he gets some avoidable years on there is

1058
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: now not really much of No wonder he's not happy.

1059
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: Base salary, well, he's not doing great, right, Yeah, they

1060
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: bumped his base salary up to twenty million.

1061
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's what happened.

1062
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Okay, but she deserves He's under contract next year at

1063
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: one point two million. Maybe it is gonna be the

1064
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: cappit of eight point seventy four. He's not gonna be happy.

1065
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: To play for that, No, Okay. I thought that's why

1066
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: he was rumored to be on the move.

1067
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: I think they added that on lower the capet when

1068
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: they raised the when they up the salary.

1069
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I'm not looking too much into

1070
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: him not being on the practice field, but that's odd.

1071
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Caleb Williams will not play in Thursday's preseason finale

1072
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: for the Bears.

1073
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: They've seen enough. I mean that's a little different to me, Like,

1074
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: if you're he's the starter, h let's not get the

1075
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: starter hurt. Like I wonder if Jayden Daniels Jaylen Daniels

1076
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: will get the play in the Week three because he's

1077
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: a starter. Yeah, well, any starting quarterback in the league play.

1078
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: Some will I wouldn't be surprised to see the Steelers.

1079
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: Team should Yeah, Mahomes might, right, but he plays a lot. Yeah,

1080
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean Josh Allen hasn't played at all.

1081
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean you get at some point you do have

1082
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: to trust your quarterback to take care of him. Yeah right, right, Yeah,

1083
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: you're a veteran guy. You knew how to protect yourself.

1084
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: I referenced it earlier, but Warren Sharp put an article

1085
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: out and it's amazing how few snaps the starting quarterbacks

1086
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: have played. There's like eight of them that have played,

1087
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: like ten snaps or less than their starting quarterbacks in

1088
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: the preseason, they don't play at least a series.

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00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in Roethlisberger, that was always kind of

1090
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: what they did with him when he was a you know,

1091
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 2: and got well, we you know, two series, we've seen enough,

1092
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: don't play them again.

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00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: That would be like Week three when there was four

1094
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: preseason games, right, yeah.

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00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: But some of these other guys, like, you know, I

1096
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: don't get given them the veteran treatment when you've you know,

1097
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: I season.

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00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: Like the Bryce youngs that I mean, it's different if

1099
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: you're light in the world on fire, if you're Stroud.

1100
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: Stroud doesn't need to play for me, No, he's young,

1101
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: does Richardson? Does you know?

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00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: Guys almost doesn't seen Deshan Watson on the field.

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00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 3: That would be nice too, you know, Daniel Jones should

1104
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: play those guys, I don't know. Stafford doesn't need to. No, No,

1105
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: just looking.

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00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: To hear the Bills who are now down a couple

1107
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks that went outside Anthony Brown. Wow, Trubisky's out

1108
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: a while, right, Yeah, he's out several weeks, so they

1109
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 2: get some issues. I mean, you could say this about

1110
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: a lot of stud quarterbacks, but it's really true with them.

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00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: I mean, if Allen's out, their season shot cooked. I mean,

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00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: so I always wonder if I was in charge of

1113
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: a team like that, how much would I invest in

1114
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: the backup, because I mean, your quarterback room is really

1115
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: expensive as it is. You never want to punt on

1116
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 3: the season. But if Allen gets hurt, that team has

1117
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: no chance.

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00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, could the chief I mean it's different if it's like,

1119
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: could the Chiefs go two and two in a month

1120
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: without Mahomes? I think I'd have a veteran guy, yeah,

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00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: especially as a mentor.

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00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, a guy that Canuto types.

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00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: Somebody that can come in, is he's played some games

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00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: in the league, who's won some games in the.

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Speaker 3: League, and yeah, yeah, that's probably a good move something

1126
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 3: like that. They make money, but they're valuable even when

1127
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: they're not playing.

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00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon Cooks has departed camp for a personal matter

1129
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: and missed the final two padded.

1130
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: Practices for the Cowboys. Their receiver is really lean too. Yeah,

1131
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: that's he's dropping off. Absolutely, you can get Brandon Cooks

1132
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: for close to nothing, but I don't think that's Yeah,

1133
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: but it's something I'd be real excited about.

1134
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: Eddrian Cooper returning to practice for the Packers on a

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00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: limited basis Tuesday, Matt Lafloor said, obviously they drafted him.

1136
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: With the I don't know if he's lined up to

1137
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: be an every down player or not. I don't think.

1138
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: Pretty shocked, Yeah, but because they drafted the dude from

1139
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: Georgia to do that two years ago. Uh.

1140
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: For the Raiders, Colton Miller, who's their starting left tackle,

1141
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: finally passed his physical has been removed from the pup list.

1142
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: Didn't even realize he was on. There's some of those

1143
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: pup guys I don't pay a ton of attention to.

1144
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: But he's as valuable as almost anyone on that team. Yeah,

1145
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 3: they do not have O line depth at all, not

1146
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: at all.

1147
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford with the hamstring, did some team drills today. Okay,

1148
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're baby and him to know. Yeah, he's

1149
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: getting it, getting closer to being back. Drew law this

1150
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: is the Giants. Their injury list is bad, right. Drew

1151
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: Locke with the oblique limited in Tuesday's practice. He's been

1152
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: kind of yeah, you know, Tyrone Tracy, I kind of

1153
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: hope for him.

1154
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: Like we talked about the running back list in Fantasy

1155
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: it'd be on my list somewhere.

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00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they did ahead a saint. They don't have

1157
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: anybody else, right, He's returning to practice. Gunner Rols Shewsky

1158
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: considered week to week. Evan Neil expected to get more

1159
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: reps on Tuesday for them. The right tackle guard John

1160
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: Runyon close to returning to practice, is close but not

1161
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: returning to practice yet.

1162
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Speaker 3: Kind of key guys.

1163
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Speaker 2: John Michael Schmitz another one. Expect to get more reps Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I mean they just got the injury after injury. Yeah,

1165
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: and it's all the three of them are like starting alignment.

1166
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, they're they're not able to weather that either.

1167
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Speaker 2: For the forty nine Ers, Ricky Piersoll still not practicing

1168
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: this week.

1169
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be frustrating. Yeah.

1170
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: And finally Tampa Bay Graham Barton has been named the

1171
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: starter at center Todd Bowles. They could have also made

1172
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 2: the same statement about the Steelers because Jack Fraser will

1173
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: be the Steelers starting center.

1174
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: Ye, Powers Johnson's gonna be a starting guard. So it

1175
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 3: looks like all three of those top center prospects are

1176
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Speaker 3: gonna be active in starting week one. There you go.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for our show today, for my

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Speaker 2: partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site keeping

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Speaker 2: us on the air as he always does.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lallie.

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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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Speaker 2: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.