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Speaker 1: There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal

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Speaker 1: episode of My Mama Told Me the podcast whill we

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Speaker 1: and we finally worked to prove that Waldo Carraaldo Faldo

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, it's not up for debate. You want

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Speaker 1: Please give it up for Miles Gray. Everybody, thank you

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Speaker 1: with Waldo follow up, Huge Family Matters fan. My grandparents

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Speaker 1: financial recourse is having to sell drugs and things like that.

425
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Speaker 1: And I think just culturally, having my like understanding what

426
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: black people were up against, it was sort of like,

427
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's people people are to do

428
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: that ship to survive. It's uh, but it was more

429
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: like it's life is fucked up. Yeah, I mean, I

430
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: think what you're saying is really interesting, especially just the

431
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: idea that that it's not often when I talk to

432
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: black people about it, it's not often us having this

433
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: active fear of the drug themselves, but more the punitive

434
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: correlations that come with those drugs. So I'm not afraid

435
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: of fucking coke. I'm afraid of getting caught with coke

436
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: and that being the thing that ruins my life. And

437
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: that's a very different I think relationship than uh, you know,

438
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: our white counterparts often have, because I think the privilege

439
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: there is there the customer, they're they're the end user

440
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: to enhance their lifestyle, where rather being again a finding

441
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: like your only financial recourse as a black person or

442
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: any person of color in this country, you know, like

443
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: that's that's what it's not. I'm not doing this because

444
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: I want to, but for me to make the kind

445
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: of money that seems like it's on par with someone

446
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: who's college educated, this is this is a route to that,

447
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: And I think acknowledging that, or being able to have

448
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: the empathy around that is the difference between be like,

449
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: oh my god, I could someone so oh it's so

450
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: discussed thing and being like, you don't really get what

451
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: it actually means to sell drugs for a lift. Yeah,

452
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: And I do think that that's part of what's always

453
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: been misunderstood in the way that hip hop, at least

454
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's former shape used to sort of do

455
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: with with drugs and drugs sales and all that ship.

456
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: Jay Z wasn't being like, Nigga, I love selling drugs.

457
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing in the world. He's saying, like, Yo,

458
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: this is what I did to now get to a

459
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: lifestyle that I love and that I don't want to lose.

460
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: And while you know, obviously there are a bunch of

461
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: moral conundrums cooked into the choices that happened there, it's

462
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: not a dude being like I can't wait to destroy

463
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 1: my community. It's it's a different energy than that, right,

464
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: It's like, this is the set of resources that I

465
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: have to work with other people. It's generations of going

466
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: to Ivy League school. Yes, and you can fast track

467
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: your way to your six figure, seven figure income like that.

468
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: If if you're actually looking at what it means to

469
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: live in this, you know, like a place of oppression,

470
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: you're not part of the hedgemonic class, then it's a

471
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: it's a much different route that way. Yeah, And then

472
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, it's no different than the

473
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: than what we see with like the justification that all

474
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: these billionaires and these super millionaires make with their own

475
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: like fucked up corporations. Right, They're not going like I

476
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: love kicking people out of their housing, tricking them out

477
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: of the comfort of their homes. They're just like, hey, man,

478
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: I wanted a new apartment building and I bought it.

479
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: If some people want to kick the funk out, that

480
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: that's on them. They're like, Also, you're kind of looking

481
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: too close to me. That's just a building. I'm not

482
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: looking at the motherfucker's inside there. That's a building, and

483
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: that's a check. And you're like, why are you looking

484
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: so close? There were people in there. No, no, no,

485
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: you buy a property for the passive income with the tenant.

486
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: That's why I have a man this company a right.

487
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: Come on now, I didn't kick anyone out. I hired

488
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: a person to kick something. That's a different energy. If

489
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: you want to be broke, keep zooming in, zooming in.

490
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back

491
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: with more, my mama told me, and more miles great,

492
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: and we are back. This is one. Guys were like,

493
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: step into the bank like ha ha ha ha ha

494
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yep,

495
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: there it is. We're back. It's our longest drop yet

496
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: we're still here with Miles. Great, are still talking about

497
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: the dangers and the joys of enjoying drugs and uh

498
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: the possible pitfalls that that the evil white man has

499
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: cooked into that experience. Yeah, I'd love to kick into

500
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: some of this research with you. You have a fair

501
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: amount of research that I'd love to to talk about

502
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: with you. And and before we get into it, I

503
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: want to preface it a little bit that obviously there

504
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: are plenty of podcasts out in the world, and this

505
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: is more for the listeners than you, Miles, but there

506
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: are plenty of podcasts out there for you, dear listener,

507
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: that can walk you through all the careful specifics about

508
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: the U. S. Government and how they bought tons and

509
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: tons of cocaine as a secret tool for helping to

510
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: fund foreign wars, and then that led to a surplus

511
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: of cocaine in America, which then led to the crack epidemic,

512
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: which ultimately landed millions of black men and women in jails. Right, Like,

513
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: podcasts do that shit already. I am not Henry Lewis Gates.

514
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk that much to give you

515
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: the history lesson. Instead, what I think would be more

516
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: exciting is for us to dig into some of the

517
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: propaganda related to drugs and drug paraphernalia that sort of

518
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: shaped the way that we understand the world. Sure. So

519
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: one of the things that I thought was particularly interesting

520
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: is that I and I did not know this was

521
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: that weed, up until nineteen thirty seven was totally legal

522
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: in the United States. I had no idea. Yeah, Okay,

523
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't like through prescription or something. First it was

524
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: like the first restriction they had, and then it became

525
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: fully prohibited. And so not only was it was it, yes,

526
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: you're absolutely corrected, was through prescription. But it wasn't just

527
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: that like, oh, they prescribed you some weed. Cannabis as

528
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: it was formally mainly known as cannabis was in almost

529
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: every fucking drug that like, it was just an ingredient

530
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: that they included, the same way fucking saturated fat is

531
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: just guarantee and everything. You. Yeah, it was high fruit

532
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: past cord, sir, but it was it was cannabis at

533
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: the time, or in this case maybe MSG because like

534
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: it gives a little flavor, you know, you know, like

535
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: it's not gonna hit unless you got weed in Yeah,

536
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: you gotta yeah, so it's it's in every drug you

537
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: can buy over the counter. Under the counter, all the

538
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: drugs have weed in it until the Marijuana Tacks Act

539
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: of nineteen thirty seven. And part of the reason that

540
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: they say that this Marijuana Tacks Act happened it is

541
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: not because they realized that weed was dangerous, but because

542
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: there were other competing drugs that sort of offered the

543
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: same experience of like of healing that cannabis could offer,

544
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: and those companies pushed with the government to basically get

545
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: weed out of competition. They didn't want weed like cannabis

546
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: to be the thing, so they pushed themselves forward and

547
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: paid off government officials to make marijuana now a taxable offense.

548
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Okay, this is kind of like like the

549
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: Hemp Conspiracy essentially tell this is more to deal with. Well,

550
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: there's this. This is something actually I just fucking had

551
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: to blow my own mind because Jack Herrara wrote that

552
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: book like The Emperor Has No Clothes or whatever it's

553
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: calling sort of like sort of a seminal weed text

554
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: talking about the Hemp Conspiracy was essentially saying that the

555
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: prohibition of cannabis was because of du Pont and other

556
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: companies trying to create nylon or synthetic fabrics, and they

557
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: had just figured out how to separate hemp and the

558
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: fibers and all that ship. But actually it turns out

559
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't true. I thought that ship was true for

560
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: the longest time because the sort of the the sort

561
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: of three points that he lays out of the main

562
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: ones is sort of that like Andrew Mellon, who was

563
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: I think the Secretary of the Treasury directed somebody like

564
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: because he had a stake in a specific company that

565
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: was gonna from DuPont or whatever. That's why he wanted

566
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: this to happen, which wasn't really true. A lot of

567
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: historians can't say that he had that sort of financial connection,

568
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: so that was like dubious and just like the other

569
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: things were just sort of like a lot of historians

570
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: who focused on how these people invested their money, like

571
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: the money doesn't quite add up the way they said

572
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: it does. Because they also said Hurst had a big

573
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: interest as well because they owned Timber. But Hurst was

574
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: actually in a lot of debt at the time, so

575
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: there was yeah, although of course he of course he

576
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: helped with the propaganda aspect, but that that financial connection.

577
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Wasn't there? Really what it boils down to, it's like

578
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: all this other ship, it was just racism. There you go,

579
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, I'm so glad you

580
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: said that. But this white guy writes the book and

581
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: it's like, man, you know, because DuPonts fucking wants the hemp,

582
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: but no, man, racism. The more important element of this

583
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: marijuana attacks that that happened, and I think you're you're

584
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: putting it perfectly, is that mari marijuana was not what

585
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: they originally called it. They called it cannabis. But then

586
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: after the Mexican Revolution, there's this massive influx of Mexican

587
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 1: people coming into the country, mainly in like Texas, Louisiana,

588
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: all these southern states, and so they want to start

589
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: controlling that population, and they introduce a bunch of propagandists

590
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: suggesting that cannabis causes people of color to go crazy,

591
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: specifically Mexicans to be violent and dangerous, and so part

592
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: of it is them just trying to control this population.

593
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: So now they start telling people the thing that they've

594
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: been enjoying in every drug that they've had up to

595
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: this point is marijuana, and marijuana fucking makes you go

596
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: nuts and like, yeah, all the all kinds of ridiculous stories,

597
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: losing their minds, killing their family with a hatchet, because yeah,

598
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the first drug arrest in calif Arena

599
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: were of Mexicans in l a in nineteen like fourteen

600
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: or something like. It's it's all. It's all based on

601
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: oppressing people of color with whatever, you know, sensational thing

602
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: they compare with the news. Uh, and at that time

603
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: it would be that or you know, protecting the virtue

604
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: of white womanhood. Yes, you gotta keep those white pusses safe,

605
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: because these Mexicans they could do horrible things. So these

606
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: white pussons, if you don't control them and beat the

607
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: you don't want that. You don't want that. Folks at home,

608
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: you don't want that. This, apparently, this is super interesting

609
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: for me, is the exact same playbook that they used

610
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: with opium and Chinese people. That when there was a

611
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: massive influx of Chinese people in this country, they outlawed

612
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: opium under the same premise that opium makes you go

613
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: crazy and it makes you do all this violent, dangerous

614
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: ship and it was just a way of cracking down

615
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: on a bunch of Chinese people and putting them in

616
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: prisons or kicking them out of the country. Yeah, because

617
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: at the first drug laws were against opium of target

618
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: Chinese people, and like they you know, the whole thing

619
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: was sort of known that it was done for that reason,

620
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: not really because out of a public benefit, but as

621
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: a way just to fucking you know, put the brakes

622
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: on uh, this immigrant community exactly. And so this all connects,

623
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: and this is the most popular work relating to anti

624
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: drug campaigns. To refer madness, I'm sure you've heard of

625
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: Reefer Madness. It's it's uh. I watched it, or at

626
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: least as much of it as I could stomach. It's

627
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life.

628
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: Truly a horrible film. That's uh, not because of what

629
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: it's saying. I don't give a funk one where or

630
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: the other. It's just poorly made and not enjoyable to

631
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: watch in any way. But Reefer Madness, for those of

632
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: you that don't know, is an hour long film that

633
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: shows how marijuana they spelled it with an H at

634
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: this point. They weren't respectful enough to uh to Mexican

635
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: people in Spanish. They even spell it the way that

636
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: they spell it, but marijuana is public Enemy number one.

637
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: The opening credits read, and this is just part of them.

638
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: But the opening credits read, its first effect is sudden, violent,

639
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: uncontrollable laughter. Then comes dangerous hallucinations, space expands, time slows down,

640
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: almost stand still. Fixed ideas come next, conjuring up monstrous extravagances,

641
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: followed by emotional disturbances, the loss of all power to

642
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: resist physical emotions, leading often to acts of shocking violence,

643
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: ending often in incurable insanity. Wow wow, really really really

644
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: I remember, I feel like my only it's like one

645
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: of those things I've only seen like an isolated maybe

646
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: forty seconds of where it's like this, Like one white

647
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: woman was like it's like looking on Goofy and ship

648
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like I just remember being seeing it and saying,

649
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: nobody thinks this could be real. I mean, I'm sure

650
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: back then it's different, but like I remember thinking, you know,

651
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: what the fuck? How how we've never even seen anybody

652
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: like this? That's the wild part is like they're truly

653
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: is zero evidence of people becoming murderers from this thing

654
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: that They're like, they truly want us to just believe

655
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: people are manic and running the streets and chopping heads off,

656
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: and that's not what it is. It's part of what

657
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: they're saying is totally true. You do become very silly

658
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: and uh sometimes not able to control some of your like, uh, extravagances.

659
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: I guess if if that's the word you want to

660
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: use it. But that ship ain't threatening, that's just that's

661
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: just a fun time. Yeah, they're see they're describing like

662
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: a like a black turn up, control their extravagances. What

663
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: you hating for? What the fund does that mean? Because

664
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: your ship is so dry over there? Get that? Oh

665
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: my god, they're extravagance, the fun up, and that is

666
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: at its core, so much of what this is be

667
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: it be it uh the Chinese people that they're they're

668
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: trying to steal opium from the Mexican people that they're

669
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: trying to still marijuana from, ultimately leading to the Black

670
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: people that they're trying to steal literally everything from like it.

671
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: It truly is just y'all don't get what we're doing,

672
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: and therefore your your criminalizing it because it's foreign or

673
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: scary or looks more fun than you know how to have,

674
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: right exactly. And it's interesting it falls into a pattern

675
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: where like the first countries that had like weed prohibition

676
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: are all uh places where white countries formerly ruled over

677
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: black people. It's weird. It's weird how that works out.

678
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: Who know, Okay, I don't know. Maybe there's something there.

679
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not, I don't know. Hey, that's

680
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: not this podcast as a different podcast. Listen to that one.

681
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: I will specula come here. I start did looking into

682
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: the first sort of anti drug campaigns, like television ad campaigns,

683
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: because reefer Madness was more of like this film that

684
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: they would show in schools and ship. But apparently the

685
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: first anti drug campaign was one of the most famous

686
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: ones to just say no campaign from Nancy Reagan. Again,

687
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about Ronald Reagan. Nancy Reagan to the lady

688
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: he laid with, it's it's uh. It comes in the

689
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: early eighties, if anybody's wondering. She also is a piece

690
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: of ship. And they basically used this as a national

691
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: campaign sponsored by the government as a way of monitoring

692
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: the drugs flowing in and out of black communities. That's

693
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: the whole deal. Mhmm, isn't it her just saying like

694
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: just it's her right, just yeah, just saying that like again, tired, tired,

695
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: Yes that you really thought? That's what? Come on? Now? Uh?

696
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: Who was it that did? Um? Was it Darren Aronofsky

697
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: who did like anti meth commercials a few years ago?

698
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: So I if you're referring to the Montana meth project, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

699
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: So that comes in the the uh in the early

700
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: two thousand's uh where basically meth Apparently Montana was so

701
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: overrun with meth that, uh, this dude interjects like a

702
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: five hudred thousand dollars or a million dollars into a

703
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: campaign where they make these horrifying videos that are commercial ads,

704
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: basically like people beating the ship out of their mothers

705
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: and waking up in showers with like blood all over

706
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: themselves and then at the end it's like, hey, don't

707
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: do meth, You'll end up like this. And that was

708
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: like the whole ad campaign. Yeah, those were like what

709
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like those ones fucking hit, you know

710
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, Nancy Reagan being like just say no,

711
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: It's like come on, because I remember those. I remember

712
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: being like because that was like when you had to

713
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: like down a quick time video. Yeah exactly. And I

714
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, you gotta see the wold the funk

715
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: up part. You were sitting there smoking while you're watching it,

716
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: like real, so one of the things. And I'm glad

717
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: you brought that up because Nancy's campaign and most of

718
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: the the campaigns for like anti drug ship throughout the

719
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties were hugely unsuccessful. That like, they start

720
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: off with these like just say no campaigns telling people

721
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: to basically maintain total abstinence away from drugs, including that

722
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: infamous this is your Brain on Drugs UH commercial, and

723
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: UH I even found like there's there's a drug commercial

724
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: with McGruff the crime Dog where he's singing UH song

725
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and playing the piano telling people not to do drugs. Um,

726
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: there's one where the Ninja Turtles call people dorks for

727
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: not if you deal drugs. I don't want that. No,

728
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: it hurt my feelings to say that the Ninja Turtles

729
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: were acting like that. And then finally Pee Wee Herman

730
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: had an ad out against crack cocaine uh and apparently

731
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: his dick was out the entire time. They didn't show

732
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: his lower half, but he was just beaten off and

733
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: being like kids don't do crack wild ship, guys like fuck.

734
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: But they basically spend all this money to get kids

735
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: not to do drugs, and then all the research shows

736
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: that it's completely ineffective. And so then in the early

737
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: two thousands, they start to change their their tune and

738
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: they make it less about like just abstinence from drugs,

739
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: but more about like trying to make people criminals from

740
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: doing drugs. So they start getting mean about the ship,

741
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: which is where the Montana Meth Projects sort of interjects itself. Right, wow,

742
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: So I like how it's seeing. That first starts off

743
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: with a parent being like, come on, come on, guys,

744
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: knock it off with the drugs. Take it from me,

745
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: some fucking loser perspect and then when they don't listen,

746
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, so now we have to turn it up,

747
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: all right, so I gotta beat your Okay, Yeah, you

748
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: want to see what prison looks like. We see the

749
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: inside of your butt hole a little bit. I'm you

750
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: want to goof around, boof around? What does that even mean?

751
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: Why are you talking like that, my chemistry teacher? So

752
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: they again find out that none of this ship works.

753
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: It doesn't actually make people stop doing drugs, and then

754
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: finally in two thousand and twelve, the national government admits

755
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: that the ship doesn't work, that all the research, all

756
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: the complaints, all the people identifying all of this stuff

757
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: is racist, are correct, and they stop doing that. No

758
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: commercials for anti drug campaigns, they don't exist really anymore,

759
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: except there was a period during the Trump administration where

760
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: he created a campaign for four hundred thousand dollars that

761
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: was an anti opiate opioid campaign, which naturally makes sense.

762
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: He was trying to say white people from themselves, right exactly.

763
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: It's just funny because like the War on it's it's

764
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: so misguided because they're spending all the money in this

765
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: other just vapor were when really it's about supporting people, yes,

766
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: to prevent drug use. It's like when like Nancy Pelosi

767
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: learning the kine cloth and the rotunda. I didn't need that. Yeah,

768
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: it's like, why don't you go and actually pass some

769
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: fucking laws because that's your that's Nancy, that's Nancy Reagan

770
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: saying just saying no, you know, Nancy, you're you're seventy

771
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: something years old. I don't need this. You're not healing

772
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: anybody with this exactly real ship. Do some real ship,

773
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: don't can pump fake with that nonsense, just like and

774
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: then do you realize they're gonna say, in fucking sixty

775
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: years from now, you know it really things moved at

776
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: a pace that was really insured horrible outcomes. This this

777
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, this committee has determined after looking at the data,

778
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and that's what it's gonna be, and it's

779
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna be such an insult. But anyway, that's what this

780
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: dumb ship is. You threw your money away on a

781
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: fucking big bird telling me not to fucking smoke krills,

782
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's it's exactly right. You hired you spent

783
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: all the money thinking that this was going to justify

784
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: the war that you created, and it doesn't. It hasn't

785
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: healed anything. And what they did find out this Ohio

786
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: State University, which I don't respect that place, but one

787
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: of the things that they did, I'm a Michigan man,

788
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: c l A right, uh yeah, I'll never forgive you either,

789
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: will be got ours And then yeah, no, I was

790
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: happy to see it. That said. One of the things

791
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: that I discovered in in sort of like unpacking some

792
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: of this ship, Ohio State University actually did a study

793
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: where they discovered that the only thing that actually worked

794
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: to keep kids from doing drugs was not somebody being like,

795
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: just say no, don't do drugs. All this other ship

796
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: was just showing cool, regular ass kids not doing fucking drugs.

797
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: So that's when you start inserting all these commercials where

798
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: it's like a cool kid and he's skateboarding and then

799
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: somebody's like, hey, you trying to hit this and he's like, nah, dog,

800
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: and then he does a fucking ali and everybody's like, hell, yeah,

801
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: I want to be like that, just did a grind

802
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: on the handrail and then to join out the kid's mouth, right,

803
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: but he ain't even trying to teach a lesson and

804
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: he's not being a fucking dweeb about it. Nobody wants

805
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: and that's what they don't understand is nobody wants to

806
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: be a cop. We're not fucking gonna join your campaign, Nancy.

807
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: We just don't. If we don't want to do well,

808
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do it. If we do, bitch, not

809
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: you getting on your knees and being just say no

810
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: or whatever it is isn't gonna stop me exactly. It's

811
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: just that. But yeah, they're just all they had to

812
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: do was normalize kids having like agency, yes, and not

813
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: succumbing to be a pressure, which is like, yeah, okay,

814
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: you mean teaching people nurture it, showing them by example

815
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: is what you mean? Like, again, what the funk? Why

816
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: did you have Big Bird in a knife fight in

817
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: Harlem over like a fucking spider bag? What the funk

818
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: was that? Can I tell you my my absolute favorite

819
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: of some of the anti drug commercials that I found,

820
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: And when I say favorite, I I mean that it's

821
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: the most fucked up of all of the ones that

822
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: I saw. Is this one where there is this black

823
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: dude right, and he's like he's clearly like in a gang.

824
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of gangs. Ship happened in him around

825
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: him is like late eighties, early nineties like ship and

826
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: there's like gangship happening around him. And he looks at

827
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: the camera. He goes, hey, yo, tell your parents to

828
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: leave the room. And then he starts walking right, and

829
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: he's looking at the camera the whole time. He's talking

830
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: to you at home, Miles, and he says, he says,

831
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: tell your parents to leave the room. All right, They're gone. Cool,

832
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: you want to buy some drugs? You're trying to get high.

833
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: You're trying to ruin your fucking life. And as he's walking,

834
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: this is where it gets super fucked up. As he's walking,

835
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: he slowly transforms into an actual snake, Like he physically

836
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: transforms and his head becomes the head of a snake

837
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: and his tongue starts getting along like a snake. And

838
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: then at the end he's like, I won't sell you poison.

839
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: And it's just it's a just a nigga turning into

840
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: a snake, and we're not supposed to feel like this

841
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: is the type of racism and out of thank you

842
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: so much, again and again. When people don't realize how

843
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: they internalize white supremacy, it's saying commercials like that as

844
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: a kid, where you saw the anamorphous the hood drug

845
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: dealer version and then you wonder why black people you

846
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: are like, I don't yeah, oh wow, I do have

847
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: an jerk reaction. Yeah that's what That's what they're steady

848
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: feeding people. Yeah, nigga snake was a possibility in your

849
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: head now because of this commercial, right, and you're trying

850
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: to be like, but I really like Michael Jordan and

851
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston also this snake. God, I don't know what

852
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: to do. My feelings are mixed. Which one is it?

853
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: I'll leave you well, we'll leave it to the commercial.

854
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: With this, I think it's it's an important sort of

855
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: caveat that I I should have thrown in earlier. But

856
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: also is is just a great framing reference for anybody

857
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: who's sort of is in doubt about the positions of

858
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: like some of our leaders and their decision making. Right that,

859
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: like Ronald Reagan, besides being potentially the the literal the

860
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: creator of the crack epidemic, is also a just outright racist.

861
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: And for years White America and sort of like Republicans

862
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: and moderates and all these people have tree did him

863
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: like he wasn't that and it's not it's more complicated

864
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: than that, whatever, whatever, whatever. But recently and in the

865
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: last couple of years, they they basically unpacked some tapes.

866
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: They went into the vault and found some actual types

867
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: of Reagan doing some racist ship talking to Nixon. I

868
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever heard this tape, but he's

869
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: talking to Richard Nixon on the phone and they're having

870
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: a conversation about, uh, the African leaders in the U.

871
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: N Where he goes on a long rant describing them

872
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: as monkeys and saying that they're not even comfortable yet

873
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: wearing shoes and basically complaining about the African leaders and

874
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: their relationship with footwear. And Richard Nixon is having a

875
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: ball of a time. He thinks it's hysterical. Damn. I

876
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: mean makes sense that they were just how yucking it

877
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: up over that kind of ship. Honestly, it was pretty

878
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: funny ship. When I listened back to it, I was like, Oh,

879
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: this motherfucker guy jokes, but I also hurtful and also

880
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: to know that's but unfortunately, and that's the that's the

881
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: lens through which our leaders govern this country. Yes, so

882
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: many of them. And even when people talk about like

883
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: oh I can't believe, you know, like how could Joe

884
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Biden be bad or whatever, just think about the generation

885
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: of people that you look at photos where it's a

886
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: bunch of white teenagers screaming at a black student entering

887
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: that they're in their seventy right, Okay, they're still part

888
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: of the workforce, Yes, they are alive right now. A

889
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: lot of these motherfucker's are holding office and ship and

890
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: are leading companies and are running municipalities. So don't tell

891
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: me for like if people forget that so easily, you know,

892
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: just like you could anyway. Just but I think I

893
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: think you're saying exactly what I what they needed to hear.

894
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: At its core, that's the danger of all of these campaigns.

895
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: It's not that Nancy Reagan saying just say no to drugs.

896
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: On its sur this is an evil idea. Telling children

897
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: that like they should be more responsible around these sometimes

898
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: dangerous substances is okay. But when you underlay that with

899
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of biases towards communities, towards colors, towards even

900
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: economic positions in this country, you are almost certainly going

901
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: to introduce a type of hate and prejudice and violence

902
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: that can't be uncooked right exactly. And we'll take who

903
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: knows how long to undo yes, because people are still

904
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: we still to this day can see how how much

905
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: of a visual bias even exists for people just to

906
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: merely appear, you know, a black body in a space

907
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: where all nigga snakes, And it's thanks to Nancy Reagan

908
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, We're gonna take a break.

909
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more Miles Gray and more my

910
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: mama told me, we are back. People who were en

911
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: slavery wished that they have curbside service at Applebee's. Yeah,

912
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: we're back here with more. More's great more. And my

913
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: mama told me, we're still talking about these anti drug

914
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: campaigns and the dangers and violence that it creates in

915
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: black communities. Did you enjoy the Don Lemon dropt? Yes,

916
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean it's true, it's true. You can't argue with

917
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: that objectively, with a slave saying no to Applebee's curbside

918
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: curbside service. Are you fucking kidding me? Yes? Okay, fine, okay, yeah,

919
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: you got me. Don See, you're so good. That's why

920
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: they love a journalist. I'll tell you that right now.

921
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: Capital j all right, let's play a game. I have

922
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: a very fun game. This is a first time game

923
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: for us. It's a brand new game that I'm calling.

924
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: Uh that nigg is a cop. That's that nig is

925
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: a cop. It's a fun game where I am going

926
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: to actually read to you. Uh. Famous quotes legendary quotes

927
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: from Harry J. Anslinger, who was the director of the

928
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: FBN the Federal Bureau of Narcotics from nineteen thirty until

929
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two famed racist Harry j Anslinger. I'm gonna

930
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: read you some of my favorite quotes that he had

931
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: out in the world, and I just would love for

932
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: you to unpack some of your feelings on said quotes.

933
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Just whatever comes to mind after we talk him through.

934
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: Sound good? Yep? Hell yeah. Here's here's an easy one

935
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: to to start off with. He says, for makes darkies

936
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: think they're as good as white men. Oh my god, facts,

937
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, it opens you up

938
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: and you realize you can you can unshackle yourself from

939
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: limited thinking as good. Oh my god. That is so.

940
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: Do you know when like what year that quote was

941
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: like occurred. It's it's somewhere between nine and nineteen sixty two.

942
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't know specifically. I can just imagine how like

943
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: at that time, that's just such a hot selling point

944
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: for your for your like anti marijuana laws to you

945
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: know why, because they start they when they smoke it,

946
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: they think they're as good as white people. Well, you

947
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: know what's funny about old Harry j Anslinger is that

948
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: he actually was so racist that even other races were

949
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: like bro chill, like like take come on, man, you

950
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: gotta like not that that they didn't agree with his points,

951
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: but he would take public in a way that it's like, yo, yeah,

952
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: you're making a hot ring. Yeah, we we like this.

953
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Applebee's many slaves wish that they could have Kirkston service

954
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: at apple Beaks. All right, well, don it's okay when

955
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: you say, which, weirdly enough, was the second Harry j

956
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: Anselinger quote. Here's a here's another fun one. There are

957
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand total marijuana smokers in the US, and

958
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their satanic music, jazz,

959
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: and swing result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white

960
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.

961
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mmm exactly. I love that that's nailed on truth,

962
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: because what you don't realize is, uh, for your simple mind,

963
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: that all of this ship is just called charisma, and

964
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: that is why the women are coming after us, okay,

965
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: and the talent that are is unleashed through expression. It's

966
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: not because we're repressed and tying up to wearing the

967
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: tightest fucking underwear to prevent erections and ship. We're out

968
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: here just living, baby, just the I mean, it's just

969
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: funny to see how it's really truly this idea of

970
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: they they're completely in awe of the joy that maybe

971
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: these like communities of color they're looking at like live with.

972
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: It's like they have like dance and stuff, Mexicans play instruments,

973
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: have a good time and don't get me started, Harlem,

974
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: hell's going on? You know it's they it's a it's

975
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: a weird like this weird, this so rife with like

976
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: white and security, you know what I mean. It is.

977
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: And the other thing that has always bothered me about

978
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: a lot of this is is how much they think

979
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: that we cherish white women also. And I cannot express

980
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: enough how indifferent I am to like the special mixture

981
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: of whatever they think you think white women are. It

982
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: ain't that deep. I like pussy. It ain't got nothing

983
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: to do with her being white. If I'm chasing a thing,

984
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: it truly is just a primal urge that, yes, maybe

985
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: I need to unpack as a human being. But it

986
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with her being special in

987
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: that right because she's white. I bet it started off

988
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: with like some white dude who did not think much

989
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: of his wife's looks. But to compliment her, he was like,

990
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: and you see, they'll go after women like my hell

991
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: And because this is obviously people trying to get it, Helen,

992
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: we all know that. And she's like, thank you, Randall,

993
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: thank you, and then it's all now, it's all fun.

994
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: That just adds four years to their marriage. Is this

995
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: weird backhanded compliment where he's like, I don't like her,

996
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: but black women apparently would suck her. Yeah, black men,

997
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: I guess pushing into her. And that's yeah, we gotta

998
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: stop that. Who and who else could love her? But me?

999
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Me and a stupid black monkey. Who else could love

1000
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: this woman besides the two of us? Who? Well, all right,

1001
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: here's one that isn't inherently racist. He said. If if

1002
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: the hideous monster Frankenstein came face to face with marijuana,

1003
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: he would drop dead of fright. Uh shut, you're tired, ass, Frankenstein.

1004
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: But what the Frankenstein. That's the best you can come

1005
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: up with, you fucking lazy motherfucker. Really Frankenstein met we'd

1006
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: he'd run away the fuck up For what the fund

1007
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: is that Frankenstein met weed? He would say, Oh, I

1008
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: wish you never brought me to life. Please kill me now,

1009
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: And also like, what if I smoked it, though, maybe

1010
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: I'll be a super monster or some ship. If Frankenstein

1011
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: met Weed, he would say, well, technically I'm Frankenstein's monster.

1012
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: Frankenstein was the doctor. Anyway, Please keep that away from me.

1013
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: It's dangerous. Please, And we don't we all know how

1014
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: horrific Frankenstein is, right, ladies, like you're talking about it.

1015
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: But again, yeah, I wonder do you just see the

1016
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: how like lame the attacks on drugs have been over

1017
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: the years. It started off with people like, oh man,

1018
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: we'd so bad Frankenstein would be fucking shook, and now

1019
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: we're at like, you know, fucking whatever it is, uh,

1020
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: smashing the egg over the stove and being black men

1021
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: will turn into crack pipes that will be inserted in

1022
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: your dre And I do think at its core, the

1023
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: even the ability for for him to humanize Frankenstein more

1024
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: than the the humans that he is criminalizing is a

1025
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: different type of propaganda and violence and all the sort

1026
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: of like mixed messaging that to your point, creates an

1027
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: environment where a bunch of young kids grow up and

1028
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: still have fear of people who are the same as them. Yeah,

1029
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: and you have to think, like all this is because

1030
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: of the end of slavery? Was their plan? B was Okay, well,

1031
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: let's just make life as hard as possible for these

1032
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: people at every level, whether that's housing policies, whether that's

1033
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: the amount of resources that are allocated to them, whether

1034
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: that's to education or insidious messaging through the media. This

1035
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: will be this is how will you know? Level the

1036
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: playing field? I guess absolutely, I'm gonna read you one more.

1037
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that that this one's gonna do

1038
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: anything that we haven't covered, But it's just a fun

1039
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: one that, uh that maybe we could just enjoy on

1040
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: the way out of this bad boy. This last one says,

1041
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: no one knows when he places a marijuana cigarette to

1042
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: his lips whether he will become a joyous reveler in

1043
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: musical heaven, a mad, incessant, calm philosopher, or a murderer.

1044
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: No one knows. No one knows or all of them.

1045
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of what's cool, you know what

1046
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Let's see, that's what's that's what's beautiful about it.

1047
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: It's all about what you bring to it, baby, you know.

1048
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: I like that, and I do think that's a good

1049
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: thing to be sending our listeners off with. It is

1050
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: all about what you bring to it. Yeah. Absolutely, if

1051
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: you have some you know, um unchecked baggage so to speak.

1052
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: Uh check, maybe check that at the counter before boarding

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Speaker 1: your flight them bags, Yeah, exactly. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: be you don't want to be way down with all

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Speaker 1: them bags, is Erica said, bag lady, what you're doing

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Speaker 1: with all them bags? Cut it out. You gotta get

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Speaker 1: rid of those bags and then you can enjoy all

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Speaker 1: the heroin and cocaine and methods. Mean that you feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable enjoying. And if you do it, it's just because

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Speaker 1: you funk with it and there's nothing and if it

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Speaker 1: kills you, that's it. That's on you. You still bitch.

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Speaker 1: No empathy, No empathy here, No empathy here, folks, No empathy,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of care. And that's I think the

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Speaker 1: best way to end this episode. Miles, we did it,

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Speaker 1: We did, We did the thing. Could you tell the

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Speaker 1: con folks at home where they can find you, what

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Speaker 1: cool ship you have going on? H Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray

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Speaker 1: and also yeah, Daily Zeitgeist is the daily political cultural comedy,

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Speaker 1: whatever show just talking whatever is being talked about. Um Langston,

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Speaker 1: you've been on it twice now, Yeah, and it's always

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Speaker 1: a right time. You get to talk about actual stuff

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Speaker 1: that's happening in the world, but you also get to

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Speaker 1: laugh about it and not just sort of pretend like

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Speaker 1: it's funny, but be real serious about it. You gotta, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to laugh at this ship. That's

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Speaker 1: the only way you can be engaged with the news. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these days. And also for Fiance. If you like ninety

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Speaker 1: Day Fiance and you like weed and you want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, to talk about white savior behavior, uh, check

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Speaker 1: out Fance because that's all we do over there. I

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Speaker 1: love it. Please listen to both of Miles podcast follow

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Speaker 1: him and that's always. You can follow me at Lankston

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Speaker 1: and Kerman and you can send us drops or or

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Speaker 1: notes or just sweet little something's whatever it feels good

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Speaker 1: to you. It can be evil little something. So I

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Speaker 1: don't get to give a ship to my mama pod

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And uh, all right, my bitch

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Speaker 1: as were racist. They are also players post the money

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Speaker 1: versions many turnkey stuff. You know. I can't tell me

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Speaker 1: about my