WEBVTT - Closing Time 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:05.520 If you thought more hours a day, hundred minutes a 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.200 week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.520 of the old Republic, the sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.520 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:20.280 rich pill poppers in the penthouse to clearinghouse, some hot takes, 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.160 break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:29.720 Maller starts right now that it does, and a happy 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.760 holiday too. You know, technically this is supposed to not happen, 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.159 This podcast, this week is not supposed to happen. But 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.680 here we are showing you the grit, the commitment. I'm 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.720 trying to teach David Gascon here that you can't have 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.680 work ethic. You don't have to check out, you can 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.880 actually prepare and even when you're on vacation, you don't 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.680 have to mail it in. And so that's why we 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.000 are here. And as you know by now, because you're 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.560 already listening, this podcast is available. We were in the 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.400 air everywhere, but really everywhere, you know, the radio. We 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.160 are limited to the affiliates that pick up the show, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.319 but on the overnight. But here the vast power of 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.680 my heart, the global reach of podcasting and we have 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.920 listeners that claim to be listening all over the world, 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.479 so you can hear this every week at about this 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.480 time when we stop and we start downloading. Of course, 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.679 the show starts when you downloaded, but it goes up 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.760 on the web on Friday afternoon in the East, Friday 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.600 morning the West, and it's available on the I Heart 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:35.600 Podcast networking wherever you get your podcast. And the slogan 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.800 because you've gotta have a hokey slogan is because four 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:43.040 hours are not enough. But again, we're here to teach 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.400 you a lesson. David gascon that we're not going through 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.600 the motions. Uh, there's no flake tendencies here. I don't 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.200 cut corners. I don't believe in shoddy work. I don't 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.000 do that. Uh, and so so that's why we're here. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.280 I know you've always been kind of a guy. You know. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.040 I'm in the fast lane. I'm putting pedal of the metal. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:03.120 You're in cruise control. Yeah, there's nothing nothing cruised in 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:07.280 my control right now. I'd kind of unwrapping some neutrogena 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.000 face wipes. I had to do some some stuff on 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.120 a studio set. Oh that's right, I guess. Yeah, your 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:17.720 nicknames the Hollywood narcissist is David Gascon here. You know 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:22.000 you bitched and moaned last week for good reason. Plained now, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.359 you were a couple of minutes late. Oh my god, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:30.040 so so horrible. Couple would be too maybe four? You 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.800 were actually thirty five minutes late to your own podcast. Well, 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:34.760 I would like you to know that you are. You 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:40.160 were fifty eight minutes late, okay, which is exhausting to me. Uh, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.960 it is draining to me to sit around for fifty 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:48.880 eight minutes. And wait, you're just killing the podcast. You're 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:53.120 punishing everyone involved, all the many people that are part 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.560 of the podcast. How dare you know there's only two 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.880 people that are part of this podcast, you and myself. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.160 So well, no, there's an army of produce ers and editors. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:06.880 I'm your producer. You're preoccupied with yourself. I yeah, I 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.919 produced this, I edit this, I do all the write 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.120 ups for this. I launched it, all right. I want 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.160 to add on the record because of course you probably 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.400 you produced the fish Bowl podcast, the worst moment in 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.400 the history of video, and you were behind that. So 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.400 I'm glad that you put your name on it, which 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.799 is good. Well, I'll own it. Just because we try 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.480 to do something a little bit different, since we will 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.280 do something different as well, so it's oh, is that right, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.160 we're doing something different. You are stripped to some of 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.520 your thousand dollar pieces of equipment there at the Ben 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.280 Malley Studio, So that's right. This is actually the last 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.400 podcast in the remote studio, which I have used to 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.360 work at great radio stations like w e I in 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.400 Boston and uh in some other places along the way 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.720 where I have popped up on the radio because we 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.160 are out with the old technology and next time we 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.560 are in with the new technology. And I have a 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.040 dedicated right now. If you're I'll give you a little 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.920 inside radio. So it's an I S d N line, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.320 which is I always when I grew up in radio, 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:12.840 I always knew about I S D and I always 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.600 want to have an I S d N set up. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.479 So I have that. But it's old technology and the 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:23.160 radio business has switched over to a different technology, which 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.839 is not a hardline based thing. It's a digital connection. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.359 And um, they're forcing me to the company's forcing me 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.960 to change, so I have to switch. I mean, they're 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.840 they're forcing an old guy to learn some new tricks. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.920 That's what they're doing, so you know, I'm excited about it. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.840 You know when I first got into radio, guest and 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.600 they had cart machines and I learned how to edit 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:48.240 audio this, Uh, I got my my thumbs bloody literally 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.880 working in radio because we had these things called razor blades. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.400 Imagine imagine going to work and having razor blades all 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.240 over the stuff. They're just asking you to kill yourself. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.359 And they had razor blades all over the place. And 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.279 it was the slice, real, the real tape. It's like 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.960 some of your your fan boys that use those in 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.240 the morning time before they in their day. So you 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.240 know already you know, I know the Mallem militia there. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.080 They hate you. Uh And because they know that you 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.560 don't have any ambition, You have no aspirations, you don't 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.040 have the strong desire to do or to achieve something, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.679 and that bothers them, it should and nothing nothing says 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.520 ambition like coming into with studio on days off to 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.760 come That's right, Like I am right here doing as 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.080 I shipped and and sit and piss in three hours 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.320 worth the traffic up and down. Well you sit in 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:42.240 traffic because guesscan is I went to an audition. All right, 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.880 he went to a Hollywood audition. I mean, what I 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.360 should do radio in Sheboygan, because nobody in Sheboygan's going 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.640 to an audition and is an hour late to where 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:56.800 their work responsibility. Well, to be fair, the distance between 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.520 the studio that I did my audition at and the 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.039 Fox its radio studios, the distance is actually only eleven miles, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.920 but the commune was forty five minutes. Well, that's called 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.200 Los Angeles. That's how it works. It's a it's a 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.440 nightmare when you mix the homeless with the traffic that 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.400 everyone you can't afford anything. It's a wonderful place to live, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.000 you know it, kind of. But the weather is good. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.680 The weather is good. And this was a fraction of 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.919 the distance it actually took me to get from my 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:28.080 house to your stupid Christmas party. So we'll get to 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.200 the Christmas party I have. You have a lot of 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.440 hutspu for some of the stuff that you pulled around 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.360 the Christmas What do you mean we will We will 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.120 get to that. I know you want to talk about that, 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.000 but we have other things that we must get to 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:44.679 on this you robust your podcast, glorious trip to Seattle. Uh, 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.960 your big pike the bonus at the end of bonus, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.520 I'm might getting any any they might give me, like 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.560 a hungry, hungry hippos. If I want you to know, 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.800 by the way, that as we are recording this podcast, 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.839 because Gascon is such a diva and such a mama luke, 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.800 I am missing the I Heart Media Premier Networks Christmas 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.480 party that I had planned on attending that I was 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:15.200 scheduled to attend because Gascon needs to he only would 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.679 be available at this time. So here I am. Well, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:22.160 let's just clarify this for other people that aren't. Aren't 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:26.520 stuck on your tit? Uh you are? You are also 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.400 skipping the Christmas party so you can attend a game tonight, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.360 an l A Clippers game. Well, that's the people's team, 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.880 and I have been invited by a very powerful person 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.960 to attend the game, so I will be there, that 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.520 is correct. I will be sitting in a very nice seat, uh, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.880 and I will be hanging out watching. Well hopefully Kawhi 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.280 Leonard plays. I don't know if he's gonna play because 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.800 he might have load management. He's a bit of a 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.920 lightweight when it comes to that. But assuming he plays, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.040 but uh, I will absolutely be hanging out there because 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.240 it's my vacation, is what it is. How dare you well? 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.840 Tip off time at Staples Center seven thirty And I 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:06.600 know you love to mingle and socialize with the the journalists, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.240 the TV people, the radio people, So I expect you 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.880 to be there at Staples around four thirty five o'clock. Um, 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.200 so that actually I will. I will be there. And 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.560 the reason I will be there is because people love 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.040 to tell me stuff and then I get to repeat 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.600 it on the radio without giving them credit. And I 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.240 have insider sources. Do people have loose lips? I'll teach 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.440 you that something. No, I know firsthand that there's a 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.040 lot of things that I tell you that you actually 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:35.160 use for your opening monologue. Yeah, you know is growing, Pinocchio, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.640 your nose is growing. How are we no balls, no guts, 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.200 no spine? That's the guest gun mantra. How are we 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.400 ending this podcast in? Because? Uh, because we've been through 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.640 a lot the last two or three months, you almost dying, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.880 my car, getting vanalized, your car, getting tapped a little bit. Uh? Yes, 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.120 how are we putting a bow on this thing? Well, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.240 you'll just have to keep listening. And you'll find out. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.120 It's an amazing So what we have we have the 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.840 bistro here, Benny's Bistro, this weekend, the podcast. We've got 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:11.439 beyond guard Mallard's meal plan. We also have proper etiquette, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:17.199 study this grab bag and don't stick to sports. Stop. Actually, 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.240 before I get to all that, I have an added 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:23.240 bonus here. Do you know that I through? You know 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.960 that Kevin Bacon, like six degrees of Kevin Bacon? Why 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:31.320 have a game six degrees through? Marlin's Man and my 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.840 guy marlins Man sat five seats away from the President 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.320 of the United States, Donald J. Trump at the Army 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.240 Navy game. He sent me a bunch of photos. It 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.439 was unreal. He's sitting imagine going to a football game 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:48.960 and Marlin's Man, my guy in Miami, Lawrence. He told 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.120 me that he did not know, he just got the 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.720 ticket or whatever. And and oh, by the way, here's 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:59.480 the President of the United States, like literally five seats over, 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.880 five ten seats over from marlins Man. He took all 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.960 these photos. It was it was crazy. I mean, to 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.079 be that close to up any president, That's one of 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.000 the things I've met a lot of these athletes, but 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.360 I've never been around any president, and I always would 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.720 like to do that at some point, but that that 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.839 was crazy, And then I was like, wow, it's pretty 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:22.320 cool marlins Man. He then invited me to next year's 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:27.079 Army Navy game. Yeah, invited me the next So I I, 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.280 I it's a legit offer. Marlins Man doesn't do bogus offer. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.560 So I there's a chance. I've never been to an 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.400 Army Navy game. I'd be kind of fun. Next year 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.200 it's in New Jersey at the Meadowlands, and I might 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.120 I might go. I might be able to go, which 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.360 will be a lot of fun. What do you mean 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.120 you might go like this Trump? No, pun intend this. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.559 Trump's going to Seattle in weeks seventeen. Well, no, I'm 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.040 excited about Seattle, which is December. And if you have 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.640 not R s v P. If you haven't and you're 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.640 listening in Seattle, will tell you about that in a minute. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.040 But just think about this for second. Ben, if you 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.920 go next year to that game and you actually even 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.360 get close to Trump, you will be around the first 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.480 ever president of the United States that has been impeached, 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:14.680 not once, but twice. I know. I was, yeah, he 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.720 he has a very good chance of being impeached twice, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.120 which is, uh, that would be great. I think at 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.720 this point, if you're Trump, you want to get obviously reelected, 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.720 but you would like to be impeached again, because you know, 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.440 it's one thing to be impeached one time, but to 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.920 be impeached twice, you know, you know that that is 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.199 an unbreakable record. We're talking about unbreakable records in sports, 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:36.040 but in politics, that would be an absolute unbreakable record. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.080 But yeah, Marlin's man, it was really cool. He's sitting 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.120 right there and there's a photo of like Trump walking 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.640 right by him, and he told me the Secret Service 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.520 coverage was intense, and apparently some of those hard oh 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.400 secret Service guys didn't know who Marlin's Man was. They 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.480 don't know the more because you know, when you're around 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.200 the president, everyone gets screened and all that stuff. And 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.040 it was now, if I do go to the Army 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.600 Navy game, do I support the Army or the Navy? 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.400 I have a lot of Marine friends. I don't know 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.520 a lot of Army friends, So I thought the Marines 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.240 support the Navy. Isn't that how it works? Yeah, but 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.960 you gotta be like the commander in chief, you support 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.600 one for the first half and the other for the 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.800 second half, unless, of course, you do it where they're ranked, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.800 then it's different. I think you you gotta support whoever 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.720 has ranked in the ball game. Because Navy was ranked 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.800 this year. Army had a great year last year and 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.560 they were ranked in the top twenty five, So I 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.400 think it's all. And by the way, guess marlins Man 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.840 and not the name drop here, but my buddy marlins 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:40.600 Man invited me to his holiday party in Miami, and uh, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.040 but unfortunately he sent it just a week before the party. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.640 It's a little tough to change your schedule around for that. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.880 But uh, he has a casino. This is great. You 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.040 want to hear how crazy this guy marlins Man is. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.680 So he's got a casino style holiday party he's throwing 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.920 for his friends and people he works with and stuff. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.400 And uh, I I made the it. I got an 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:06.200 invite and it's a it's an Ocean's thirteen movie casino party. Right. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.800 So they have all these tables and whatnot. And you know, 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.320 where do you get card tables? We could probably rent 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.720 them or something like that. Um, but these are the 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:20.079 actual Oceans thirteen movie tables where Brad Pitt and George 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:25.319 Clooney played. He found them on the internet and bought them. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.040 He bought the actual tables from the Oceans thirty. I 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:30.800 don't know what you do with them after you use 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.319 them for the party. I guess he's gonna have to 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.400 do these parties every year. But it's uh crazy man, 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.800 absolutely crazy, all right. Anyway, Um, moving on from that, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.720 I'm living the good life Marlin's Man, my friend Lawrence, 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.240 but beyond guard now Christmas and New Year's sports radio. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.120 And I am partly to blame for this because I 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:52.680 have a lot of comp days that I gotta get through. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.160 Here there's a lot of fill in. I'm not gonna 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.560 say they're all hacks. A lot of them are hacks 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.400 who poison and sully the airwaves of radio stations all 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:09.240 over the country. And I consider this the primer, the 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:15.160 handbook on what to listen to and signs signs that 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.120 your favorite talk show host is mailing in or your 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.680 fill in favorite talk show host is mailing in. Now, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.440 we have two different versions here to look out for, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.840 guest on the Christmas version. Um, And before I even 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.040 get to the Christmas version, I heard something unprecedented on 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.160 our radio station. I will not name the guilty party 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.480 here because I don't want to step on any toes. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:39.320 But somebody this week, all right, did this kind of 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:45.480 radio for the impeachment of Donald Trump. Somebody did a 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:50.680 topic of who in sports should be impeached? Was their topic? 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.280 How great is that? How great is that? Guest guy? 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.760 I heard about that heard that? Yeah? Yeah, that's that's outstanding. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.160 I mean that is that is dabbling deep in the 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:05.680 Christmas Handbook of lazy radio outstanding. But can I veer 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.760 out the beaten path with this for just a second, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.600 because you are are I guess you can say famous 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.880 or infamous for Benny versus the Penny, which is a 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.360 season long spectacle where you go against a coin and 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.720 you pick against the spread for all NFL games. But 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.280 if you're gonna use any of that kind of conversation 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.720 in a radio show, couldn't she use some of the 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.880 lines that are out there right now? Because there's some 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.960 lines that have been placed by Vegas on the impeachment process. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.800 So so you want to gamble on the impeachment and all? Yeah, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.960 I mean we could we I don't have that in 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.080 front of me, but Yeah. I love that. You can 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.040 bet on anything. I get props on awards and all 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.360 kinds of nonsense. Yeah, it's good. I saw one of them, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.800 what's which basically said, uh, the over undertotal on Republicans 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.600 that would vote for impeachment. It was the list that 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.480 a one and a half and half. This is pretty good. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.120 Well what there was one? Well, how many demogos? Is 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.960 one Democrat that voted against it, but he became a Republican, 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.880 so it doesn't really count, right, No, there were two 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.640 that were voted against it and one that just called present, 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.520 and that was Gabbard, which is the ultimate lazy way 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.560 to approach it, right, Like, I'm not going to pick 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.960 a side. I'm just gonna say I was there. For instance, 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.040 will the Senate vote to remove President Trump from office? Yes, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.520 is plus two thousand and Noah's minus five thousand as 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.800 of now as of now. Yeah, that's well, that's pretty good. Well, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.080 the math is because of the way the Senate. You know, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.080 this is not a political show, guest coun but the 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.200 way the Senate is set up, it would you know, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.040 there'd have to be a couple of senators that get 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.320 drugged or something like that that changed their position. Um. Anyway, 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:48.120 so the Christmas version of lazy Holiday radio. Um. Some 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.200 of these topics, now these are just a version of 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.440 some versions of there. There's a few different spinoffs on this. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.280 But who's been naughty and who's been nice? In sports? 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.360 That's always you get that at least once during the 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.800 next couple of weeks. What do you get you know, blank, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.199 what do you get Lebron for Christmas? Or you know, 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.359 what do you get Bill Belichick for Christmas? You know 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.439 I get him on offense? Get get Lebron James the 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.600 Fountain of Youth? You know, some nonsense like that. What 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:19.840 is under your favorite athletes Christmas tree? Right? That's that's wonderful. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.639 What do you know? It's kind of what do you get? Gifts? 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:27.080 And all that? Who gets a lump of coal? Which 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.560 is a spinoff of the previous question, who in sports 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:34.280 do you invite the Christmas dinner? Dead or alive? Yeah, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.520 debt or alive? That's right. Here's one that kind of 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:42.639 relatively new here. Christmas Draft, which is great. Right, you 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.560 have a big board and you say, oh, it's gonna 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:45.800 be the number one pick. Do you go with the 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.119 gifts the Christmas tree? What about the stockings, what about 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.680 the family dinner? About Santa? You gotta put Santa number one? 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:57.960 How about reindeer? Maybe reindeer Christmas carols? Church, you know 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.879 and be you know, you can be the the virtue signaling. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.400 What about church Christmas music? You can put that up there. 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.720 All different versions of the Christmas draft. Now you can 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.800 do the Honeker draft, which would be like a potato lot, 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.040 you know, pancakes lot, because you can do the minora, 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.480 You could do the dradol and that kind of stuff. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.919 But it's the same damn concept. It all sucks. Yes, 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.119 it's awful, and it doesn't go on for a segment 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:25.800 or two. It usually goes on for the three or 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.920 four hours at the hoasts are on that show. Yeah. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.160 And the thing that's most frustrating, and I've I've been 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.159 on shows when I got early in my career, I 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.359 was with hardos that did this kind of radio. And 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.680 the thing that's the most frustrating is that the listeners 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.600 respond to this. They love it, They love playing the 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.040 little dopey games. That's why it keeps going on. It's 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.960 a self licking ice cream cone, right, They these people 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.800 do it, and then the you know. The audience responds, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.800 and how about this new Year's version? Alright, new year's 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:59.760 spinoff version. Tell me your new Year's sports resolution. Right, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.520 always the case, Um, who needs to spend more time 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.919 with family? Uh, it's ay, k, lose your job in 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:08.960 the new year, right, it's the way to say, lose 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:13.520 your job for football coaches, tell me in sports? Who 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.920 needs to work out more? You know, because they're out 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.280 of shape? You know that. That's how that goes. Who 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.000 needs to quit well, you know, too much weed or 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.520 whatever you get. There's different spinoffs on that, but it's 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.400 the same concept. And it's all I find it nauseating 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.680 and all that and lightweight radio and lack of daisical 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.360 and lacklust. There's one that you're missing and it's it's 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.720 actually it's been a trend over the last couple of years. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.719 I'm surprised you didn't catch it. But um, you'll have 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.200 hosts that come on and say is that a bowl 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.680 game or not? And then they'll run through at least 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.200 two or three segments worth of bowl games during the 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.800 college football season and give out the names of the sponsors, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.680 you know, the Tostita, Fiesta bull or whatnot. And they'll 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.879 go through all forty bowl games to blow through a 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.439 couple of segments and say, hey, listeners, is this a 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.200 segment based on college football? Is this a bowl game 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.240 or not? Wow, I've not heard that, but that is wonderful. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.439 That is a tremendously bad radio And yeah, I'm surprised 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.040 you even heard that one. I have not well, I 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.679 try not to listen to bad radio, but I know 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.240 you like that roo. I'm stuck on it, so I 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:23.080 am fatigued when I hear that. I I feel guilty, 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.000 like I feel like this is my profession. You know. 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.880 The radio. I I've always thoughts like an art form. 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.480 It's an audio art form, and it's like watching were 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.359 listening to people fingerpaint. When you hear this kind of radio, 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.400 it's not good, all right, I think, I think, Ben, 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.919 I mean, on your point, I think the two hardest 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.639 ways to be entertaining is one in theater actually on 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:49.400 a stage, and to talk radio, because yeah, I don't 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.480 know about I've never done theater, but I know i've 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.720 done televisions. I always find television a lot easier because 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.440 to tell you exactly what to say, and it's it's 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.680 all kind of land out produced. You got a bunch 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.280 of produce sus in your ear telling you what to 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.560 do and all that stuff. So yeah, I think, and 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.720 you see it when TV people go into radio, they 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.919 can't handle the stickle up in. You know, some of 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:12.879 them can, but a lot of them just they're not. 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.240 It's they're in over their head and they find it 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.920 just horrific. It's murderous. I need to tease, I need 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.399 a lead, I need the monologue and in stats, and 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.399 you got a twenty minute block, the B block, and 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.560 you have to fill it and there can be no 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.480 dead air and it has to be entertaining and blah 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.440